Where's the catch? Harley Benton Modular Power Supply

[@andreafox7267]

I bought an AC1 Pro recently for an 11 pedal pedalboard (EBS, Joyo, TC Electronic, Digitech & Boss). Four of the pedals are digital and a couple don’t play nice together on a shared supply so these are each on an isolated supply and the seven analog ones are all on one outlet. I just finished testing it and it’s perfect - no noise or hum! I’ve compare this to my Cioks DC7 and there’s no noticeable difference. This is an amazing product for the price! One thing Harley Benton could do is a fixing bracket or something to mount it underneath a pedalboard - that would really be the icing on the cake! Great review as always!

[@Rillant]

I've been using my Harley Benton 12 outputs on my board and it's fantastic. Does exactly what I need for 100 euros.

[@RaxFx]

nice that they don't need an external PSU.. IEC connector - perfect! - these are gonna sell like crazy.

[@aaronpratt7792]

i am confused. i hear tons of hiss and hum during the test. at 10:15 before you play a note there is very noticeable buzz. at 10:25 when you engage the first switch there comes a lot of hiss as you go through and switch on and off the various loops, the amount of hiss changes noticeably etc etc am i missing something?

[@aaronpratt7792]

i tried listening with several different pairs of headphones including my Sure MDR-1000X, same thing

[@EytschPi42]

that noise comes from the pedals and is totally normal for an engaged drive pedal... no power supply in the world can fix that... that is not the "hum" we are listening for.

[@aaronpratt7792]

ok that makes sense. I am expanding my acoustic pedalboard, and therefore dont have drive style pedals that come with that kind of noise, but rather is totally quiet. That's why I was concerned about introducing noise to my signal chain. thank you so much!

[@JayTheLane]

​@@EytschPi42Yes, exactly correct and thanks for an insightful video. Drive pedals will always give some hiss. A noise gate helps when your not playing or to some extent between notes if you're playing lead and have good control. I made the mistake of buying a Caline unit that supposedly was fully isolated but it's uncertain if it really is. I then read up on them and was concerned using it to power my UAFX Golden and Starlight pedals could bork my signal or damage the oedals, so I got this unit for all of my digital pedals but will use possibly the Caline for my analog low ma pedals. I'm going to try and run the whole board off the HB first and see how it goes. If it works the Caline can be a backup for analog stuff. I'm just a bit annoyed I bought the Caline, my fault because I didn't read up properly. I've moved away from Modelling back to fully pedal based into my Fender Deluxe 112 solid state amp from the 90s which is blisteringly loud but is a great clean pedal platform 🎸🎶

[@nunofernandes4501]

Hi! I came back here to say that I tried the PowerPlant ISO-1AC Pro yesterday at rehearsal and all the annoying electrical noise that had been making me crazy for the past year just disappeared. This thing really works! I used the same wall outlets I was using before and the buzzing and hissing are gone. I have 5 pedals in my board, all is working fine and dandy, this is the best €59 a bass player can ever spend on his mental health. :)

[@chickenpasta7359]

I wish you'd try this out with a Helix Stomp. Would love to get rid of the chunky PSU that comes with the stomp

[@FlapSkate]

I am using two 500mA outputs from the Harley Benton PowerPlant ISO-2 Pro to power my HX Stomp and it works great.

[@chickenpasta7359]

@@FlapSkate Sounds great. Guess that'll be my power supply for me then.

[@hairnation68]

Can you plug an American power plug into the unit?

[@m0rtenDK]

A lot of Line6 HX Effect/Stomp people would like to know if these can beat the TrueTone CS6/CS7 which are powerfull enough to power them through a single output (or with a current doubler cable).

[@gouzos]

I bought this exact combination. It works fine until now. No problems, no hum. The modular idea is great. I have one for one amp, one for the other amp and I can combine them, if I need to. I also like the IEC plug instead of an external transformer. Supposedly it might be noisy because a transformer is inside the box, but until now, like I said, it's been great.

[@kissrawk]

Can i use the output socker with an adapter and a quad cortex power supply? Cheers

[@onlyusernameleft2]

I powered my pedals with an MXR Mini Iso Brick for a long time. I used Voodoo Lab output splitters in three of the four 300 mA outputs and powered my multieffect/moddeller on the 800 mA output. I got a compressor, 2 drives, fuzz, a modulation multieffect, reverb, delay and a modeller on that little guy. I assumed Boss RV-6 and DD-8 could share power because both are newer Boss pedals and must have similar circuits. I was right, no problems and I got an entire board on 5 outlets. These little switch mode PSU are great when made right.

[@boynamedlen]

I wish the 10AC also had the option to link. Right now I have 5 pedals on my board, so an AC modular would suffice, but I'm still tempted by the 10AC. I like the idea of having extra outputs available and it's cheaper than 2 AC modulars. But I guess it makes more sense to get a modular now, maybe a few 2-3x daisy chains to combine a few low current pedals, and get a second one down the line if needed. Sometimes I just have to write a comment to straighten my thoughts... This was helpful, thanks! Btw, I'm glad I looked at the AC line. I was tempted by the ISO-12 but didn't like the flimsy adapter it used. Much prefer the more robust IEC cables on the AC's.

[@mikhailo_miki42]

I was searching for a power supply who can switch to a 18 v (just for one pedal, the SFT). So thank you for the video, and for being frank to the audience too ! Great work, best wiches.

[@Mullewarp]

Sorry, it's too late to use your links. I just ordered one of these yesterday. And now, after watching your video, i think, it was the right decision to go for these.

[@williampatterson3323]

Great video! Does anyone know if these fit under pedal train metros?

[@fixing_the_shadow]

Thanks for the review. I just was looking for a reasonably cheap power supply for my very little pedal board. It's going to have 3 pedals currently so I didn't want to spend the same amount of money as my pedals cost all together. Looks like that's a great options to consider!

[@jroobz]

do these fit under pedaltrain nano boards?

[@Zwidawurzn]

i have a Truetone CS12 as big power supply but when i want to go smaller i have one of these modular Harley Benton ISO-2AC and it's all fine, i even measured the output volt to be sure i don't ruin my expensive pedals with it. Totally recommend.

[@Tuttermuts]

Could you safely run a big modeler of the "modular" AC output? Lets say a helix floor for example.

[@LucaCrippa88]

Can I connect something requiring 220V to the modular output of this stuff? Like the power input of a Blackstar Amped 3?

[@EytschPi42]

Likely

[@Евгений-с4с2ч]

Will it work with Line 6 HX Stomp (if combine 2 x 500mA outputs and invert that voltage to negative center)? Will 1000mA be enough or it's too risky?

[@EytschPi42]

don’t know, sorry

[@fenosoa8091]

Hey, did you find your answer forthe hx stomp?

[@allboutthemojo]

Have that feeping? Sound when my truetone 18 to 9 v adapter cable is too close to my boss dd7 digital delay. Truetone iso pro cs 12 is maybe the best power supply out there but shame that they don't make these adapter cables properly. The design flaw is that the length of the cable sticking out past the adapter module is too short , this makes it's proximity to the pedal too close. Guess even the best companies have poor design ideas to diminish a perfect product. Good video Henning!👍

[@sampereira1267]

Hi. Does it make sense to pick a cioks instead of a harley benton? What are the real differences (I’m pretty sure there must be some). Types of transformers? Quality of components? Just the brand? I need to feed about 13 pedals (one of them needs 12v 450ma). Some of the other are digital (boss es-8, tc helicon play acoustic, boss dd-20, mooer ocean machine…). I’m getting crazy about the good choice that doesn’t ruin a live show, and cioks seems the good one, but is it the actual good one?. Fender, rockboard iec units, hb old powerbars, the new hb mods…? Please, we all need a real world 3 hours deep comparison. Thanks a lot for all your videos and information!!

[@EytschPi42]

Nothing beats Cioks if you can spend the money

[@brisleeadams]

Thanks for this awesome review, Henning! I already have the Cioks 5 and have that Gott verdammt hissing with my digital pedals (like the EHX B9 and the Digitech Ricochet), plus I'm pretty sure it's not modular and of course I need more pedals ha ha!... So since it's the crisis I'm really interested in this product!

[@LosTroopos]

Henning mentioned the Cioks DC 7 and the Cioks 4 expension. That's totally different to your DC 5 Link. The Cioks DC5 you have uses a toroidal transformer, which can cause EMI (electro-magnetic interference) with some pedals (especially wahs). It's not modular either. Though the outputs are isolated, so as long as it's wired up correctly it should be fine. To check for EMI you could move the hissy pedal away from the power supply to check if that makes a difference.

[@brisleeadams]

@@LosTroopos Thanks for this precious info! Yeah One way or another the Cioks DC 5 will have to go.

[@LosTroopos]

Just as I was contemplating getting a TrueTone Onespot this review comes along. Think I'm gonna give the harley benton a shot.

[@brianbarnett100]

I freaking love this guy

[@rottalmusik6563]

I can't say anything than: it works great so far!

[@scottm121]

Im using a strymon psu now. Mostly because i have 4 strymon pedals and they like power .mix and match with analog it all seems to be dead quiet

[@troycollins6069]

Henning, I was wondering what happened to the Scar my guitar he made for you, never saw a follow up

[@EytschPi42]

It's almost done..., he hit a rough patch with the company and I told him not to rush my guitar...

[@moisesperaza1616]

Is this a Linear power supply or a switch mode power supply?

[@jorismak]

Is this a new model? I have two of those small harley-benton (or joyo?) isolated power supplies under my wooden board for _years_ now. But I don't think it offers 500ma per port, but less. (edit: Found it in my order history: I have two of the HarleyBenton PowerplantJunior's under my board. Have been stable and quiet and fixing all my noise problems I might have had since 2014 :P) Might actually upgrade to two of those smaller ones if they can be combined, means I only have one plug... and I was missing strong power for things like those digital reverb+delay pedals. Powering a Victory V4 pedal would also be nice!! (That power supply really sucks, no matter what they say). But I guess that connector + power-requirement is too far from standard. Powering a HX Stomp would then be the last thing to try :).

[@eightcoins4401]

Main advantage of modular is it comes with a more solid cable than that godawful cheap frail one that comes with the cheaper powerplants

[@MarshallGTV]

Perfect Rik Mayall “Young Ones” face. Just wanted to mention it.

[@brendanp1468]

I read really good reviews on these, so I bought one and added a second module giving me another 10 outlets. Dead quiet.

[@DouglasComical]

Something to note is that I think HB power supplies are incompatible with US power outlets

[@EytschPi42]

YES!

[@jameswoodward3618]

So does this mean if you're in the US don't bother trying to purchase one because it won't work? I have been getting my hopes up.

[@scottlowe8657]

Just use a spare US IEC power cable - e.g. computer cable. Or search for IEC power cord on Amazon. They are very cheap.

[@arkenstone]

Not quiet the topic, but how does the cioks compare to the gigrig power system?

[@EytschPi42]

For me, the Gigrig consumes way too much space and is very expensive. I would go for the Cioks all day long!

[@arkenstone]

@@EytschPi42 thanks for the fast reply!

[@MrRafaztar]

I bit the bullet and got a truetone cs12 to power an HX STOMP and boss MS3 and some drive pedals

[@robertkelly1434]

When I'm good enough to be ready for a board, I will definitely be buying this to power it. What I want to know right now is, where can I get that fish for my cats? 👍👍👍😃😃😃

[@LaEagle1994]

Hey Henning, I really enjoyed the video but I still have one question.Do you know if it's possible to link up more than 2 units? Like 3 PowerSupplys so you have a total of 15 connections? Thanks in advance.

[@EytschPi42]

yes you can

[@LaEagle1994]

@@EytschPi42 Thanks man, that is great news!

[@jst601]

Cork sniffers would like to see a Strymon Zuma opened up alongside a comparable Harley Benton unit comparing the components of each unit. One cannot help but wonder where did HB scrimp to keep the price so low?

[@69lespauls]

Always informative and entertaining! Thank you!!!

[@wmrg1057]

Nice thing is if one blows up you still have the other. You can run with half the peddles. Great for redundancies.

[@Paul_Lenard_Ewing]

99% of all made in China power supplies are made at the Joyo factory. Even other brand names like mosky get them from Joyo. They are actually well made. I like the Mosky model as they are the size of a medium pedal. I actual have 80 pedals so I have a lot of power supplies. You can get them for about $30.00 USD but usually with an obscure brand printed on the box. Same box, same guts in all of them.

[@Drinkyoghurt]

This is the 1% then that’s not made by them. These power supplies are made by Vitoos and look nothing like those other cheap PSUs on the inside. I’ve taken a 10AC apart and it’s well made with proper isolation of the circuits.

[@Hardy-One]

There's another power supply in that Harley Benton Series: the "ISO-10 AC Pro". Not modular, but with 10 very flexible outputs - and cheaper than an ISO-1AC Pro plus an ISO-2 AC Pro together... Henning, did you also have tested the ISO-10 AC Pro? And when it comes to modular extension: Do you think, it's possible to put an ISO-1 AC Pro in front of the ISO-10 AC Pro?

[@db_on_drums]

Yep I own one and it works perfectly fine I recommend it

[@omegasunn]

Agree with the comment about the presentation box. Goes a long way to make their power supplies a more 'premium' product. I got the 12 pedal power supply I have analog and digital pedals (Strymon timeline, Digitech whammy DT I have no noise .

[@jhonnydoe9146]

Anyone tried to DC chain this PSU to a Trutone CS6?

[@joek81981]

It causes errors in my brain when I hear picking and fretting AND see a hand pushing buttons. Sounds quiet as eff. I dunno.

[@bpmore]

Thanks for this review. I’m sold!

[@OW79]

Cheers! This is exactly what I need atm!

[@kingfisher7960]

Love the cat and his fish!

[@PooNinja]

🎵Oooh wee Watts up with that watts up with that Oooww wee I said waaaaatts up I said watts up oooh Watts uuuuup with thaaaaaat🎵 Diondre Cole every body. Can we get a round of applause for him he’ll be singing that the rest of the day. And up now we have the incredible...oh we’re outta time next week for sure Lindsey Buckingham!

[@PooNinja]

Yes I’m a long time Kenan Thompson fan 🤘🏽

[@taurushamilton2739]

👏🏾👏🏾🕺🏾🕺🏾🕺🏾🕺🏾🤣🤣🤣🤣Keenan is genius!👊🏾🤘🏾

[@rottalmusik6563]

I power my whole ambient board with two ISO-1s and one ISO-2! On the board are two big strymons, a Iridium, a atomatone and a frequout! ... It works fine!

[@dantahoua]

Your mouth "feeping noise" is awesome!!! 😊 😊 😊

[@ronlight7013]

Henning, thanks for thinking of the "little guy." Just what I was looking for, so I bought it! (Shipping to the U.S. is a little costly, but hey, this ain't a Sweetwater-style item. Not enough built-in profit for them.)

[@EytschPi42]

I hope you checked if it’s 110V compatible!

[@ronlight7013]

@@EytschPi42 In the fine print it says power cable with "EU plug." I hadn't noticed that. I wish you'd mentioned this supply being only for European users. I hope I can cancel my order. Until it's processed and they set up an account for me they have no external record of it.

[@EytschPi42]

the power cable might only be EU, but that doesn’t mean that it’s not for 110V... it should say that in the description

[@thoughtsbeforesleep]

I contacted Thomann and asked if this unit would work in the United States and this was their reply: "this item works can handle 100- 240 Volt at 50/60 Hz you can just change the Cable goint to the wallsocket for one adequate for your country. "

[@mykhedelic6471]

@@thoughtsbeforesleep Did you ever find a way to power it in the US? I can find all the specs on adapters but the polarity is opposite (the HB is center negative-- like all of my pedals and other adapters but for whatever reason, every adapter I find with matching specs in the US is center positive.) Appreciate your response.

[@davepowell4740]

Can’t buy a 12volt 2amp power supply anywhere that fits

[@Kille1967.]

Tank you❤. From 🇸🇪

[@Kareggan]

With some fast math, the estimated MA for 12v would be 225ma.

[@Kareggan]

And for 15v, the MA would be estimated 180MA

[@kevmac1230]

You know your stuff.Good info.

[@joshguthriemusic8090]

Your “feeping” noise 😂😂😂

[@gilbycoyote]

What i don’t get is, why are Pedal powersupplies as weak, or expensive as they are? 5x 9V 500mA outputs equates to 22.5 watts. People get upset these days if they don’t get a 30w charger with their Phone(if they still get any) or find alternatives to the 96w macbook charger because the apple branded one is too expensive being around 80€. Yet here we are Praising Cioks for building a powerfull (42w) Powersupply for over 200€ and call a sensibly priced alterative”budget”, being more than twice the €/W than the seemingly overpriced 96w Apple usb-c Powersupply. For contrast, i ran my Pedalboard for years on a Meanwell 12v 72w Switching Powersupply you can get anywhere under 20€. Also have i yet to find a 9V Pedal that doesn’t take 12. And if so, you could always add a Buck converter for less than 1€

[@gilbycoyote]

BTW i’m not hating on anyone here, i’m just saying Guitarists are getting ripped off and should be aware. Tone-powersupplies do not exist

[@scottlowe8657]

There is no catch. I have the PowerPlant ISO-2AC Pro Modular and it's fantastic

[@LothyBluesCave]

I guess we'll see a video about the red switcher soon?

[@EytschPi42]

we will

[@LothyBluesCave]

@@EytschPi42 we will when? :-)

[@benedekjuhasz5592]

i was literally searching for a power supply, watching your older videos and this pops up lol

[@sparkyguitar0058]

Check out Caline P-1 . Big power, 8 outs, cheap price. I use 1 and powered up to 16 pedals at 1 time. Used a couple Daisy chains for smaller mV pedals. Works great, no noise, fits under my board.

[@lofilukelukoala8121]

hier gibts halt echt die besten und professionellsten reviews

[@theoversouls]

I thought this was about modular synth power supplies.

[@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623]

If money is not an issue...... Except for the vast majority, unless you're a blues lawyer, money is ALWAYS an issue. So this one is a god sent.

[@kingfisher7960]

Wait till Fender sends you the new Engine Room lvl 12 8 or 5

[@EytschPi42]

haven’t heard of those

[@kingfisher7960]

@@EytschPi42 They just came out this week in the US. They have 500ma outputs isolated in 5, 8, or 12 port, but the Harley Benton is half the price and likely as good. Great review man!

[@bobibobik5903]

EytschPi42 you are killing me mate. As much as i love your videos when you stat to talk ''if you have the money'', it is not smart IMHO to threw money for product that is not better. HB have PW which are imho amazing, i mean vitos or whom ever they are rebranding. ''Your'' joyo is amazing i remember one video were you brught that Cikos owner and it funny joyo was killing others. Anyhow thumb up for Henning Pauli, it's imposable not to like your videos.

[@Stoffendous]

I thought you were gonna say: "For me the big test is: Does it CHUG?" But you didn't :/

[@theoforde-stiegler]

Wunderbar!

[@SlowDeath1993]

Great

[@AudreyYun]

9:32

[@71goaliemask]

But I like tripping over all my stupid daisy chains, and the unbearable humming/hiss is part of my unique sound, oh wait.....

[@marctamtonthat]

It's not Harley Benton which designed this product but Vitoos

[@Tonetwisters]

What's a Harley Benton?

[@boddumblues]

You must be new here!! ;-)

[@oldguy5381]

I believe it time for Harley Benton to have a grate gear giveaway, what do you think. That would get a lot of attention. Wouldn’t that be fun? Come on Harley Benton show us what you got.

[@Sevetamryn]

grrr ... "In 6-8 Wochen lieferbar" ... ;)

[@TheRawkVox]

😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[@darrenhutchinson9086]

Has anyone brought the iso 12 version and is it worth it or worth putting my money on a higher spec brand ?