F-22 Raptor Vs F/A-18C Hornet DOGFIGHT | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

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[@flyingcactus1953]

Please do Mig-31 vs F-35 😂

[@numberyellow]

F-22 Raptor VS Nine North Korean MIG-29's BVR plzkthx

[@mishaangelo926]

Or maybe "one of the only" means "the one and only"?

[@Anarchy_420]

F-15STOL/MTD VS NGAD

[@Xeno1001]

“It’s called trouble and we are in it!” that was absolutely hilarious and 100% a statement that you never want to hear, possibly as much as “Hey, watch this!”.

[@roflcopterkerman4589]

Hold my beer.

[@doccls]

Maybe if I can just ...

[@adamtheninjasmith2985]

Lol. You Sir, underestimate some of us. And no I'm not missing any appendages. But when I'm in the shit is when I do my best 👍💪

[@Xeno1001]

@@adamtheninjasmith2985 we can do some amazing feats under pressure, not all the time but some. It’s just a matter of keeping your head clear and focused, then anything is possible.

[@batuhan4002]

Aye LOW KEY BRO ,aye bro

[@gustavolrcoelho]

"Maybe if I can just..." Famous last words right there.

[@user-xj1cs4sf1e]

F22: No, you can't

[@vicroc4]

Well, he was right about being in trouble.

[@takaharatanaka8818]

The SPLAT sound effect cracks me up every time.

[@raichu0479]

@@takaharatanaka8818 Alright, that's going to be a proble-

[@danny_boi3537]

Maybe if I can just- get shredded by 20 mm

[@derloco2035]

Am I the only one who enjoys the videos most where Sidewinder is in the "weaker" plane? It is just too inspiring seeing him getting better and better in every dogfight and succeed in the end.

[@constablemittens]

he does a good job of embracing challenge for sure

[@alejandrovega8370]

Absolutely Seeing his abilities being put to the max is far more entertaining

[@saltyfloridaman7163]

We need to see him in an F-35A

[@amorosogombe9650]

When you think about how old the hornet, falcon and tomcat are, just goes to show how good they were in their time.

[@tueclfpofks]

Lol they pretty shit

[@gigachad1939]

They still are

[@lucignolo8333]

Think about it, in 40 years we went from having spitfires and corsairs to having f16s and f18s, and now, 40 years later these planes are still relevant. Could you imagine if the spitfire was still relevant in the 80’s? What happened? Did progress slow down?

[@avroarchitect1793]

@@lucignolo8333 we hit the G-limit a pilot can whithstand, and then pushed engagement range out to BVR. Then the Americans invented steath aircraft and rewrote the book on fighters.

[@amorosogombe9650]

@@tueclfpofks Really? What's better from the same time they first flew?

[@StrikeEagIe]

“Love the scenery and the clouds here” -GS while he’s dogfighting a literal F-22

[@sanjeevnair4069]

Yeah, I was like "are the clouds more important than the bloody raptor right in front of him?"

[@gigachad1939]

Common GS W

[@MegaEvoluzione]

Exactly, I was like : can you please focus on the dogfight for a second?

[@faydea6962]

The last time i was this early Istanbul was still called Constantinople

[@Spaceguy-nineteensixtynine]

Been a long time gone, Constantinople on a Turkish delight on a moonlit night

[@CJFreeza]

Ah what a time that was.

[@Richard_Diggler]

Video: 34m ago OP: 35m ago You were so early, the video wasn't even a video.

[@hollister2320]

Last time I was this early, the Mongols hadn’t sacked Baghdad 😶

[@abrandenburg10]

@@Spaceguy-nineteensixtynine but why did Constantinople get the works?

[@CJFreeza]

Another action packed 12 minutes of tense piloting.

[@briandp2023]

GS...I caught myself applauding your skills at the moment you smoked the f-22. Imagine how many times I've applauded you overcoming the bandit. Thanks for another great video.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

I appreciate you Brian.

[@_SGR_]

The F18 pilot needs to have some balls to fight an F22, i am impressed the plane could support the weight...

[@fubaralakbar6800]

Those balls have a pilot of steel.

[@Leonardo-wn2fp]

Maybe titatnium, since they are strong AF but seem light enough to enable high AoA

[@caleblarsen5490]

That third burst that you just buried into the F-22 center mass on that last round was a thing of beauty. Nice job.

[@PhycoKrusk]

Even after years of seeing it in sims and at airshows, the Hornet continues to impress me with its high AoA capabilities.

[@tueclfpofks]

High aoa slows u down

[@NaozaneST]

@@tueclfpofks but allow them to suddenly pull hard and point their nose at the opponent and Definitely has its own advantage.

[@tuunaes]

@@tueclfpofks Doesn't matter if you're already slow: High alpha capability allows controlling plane when it's in "half stall" and as much falling down as flying forward. Lots of 40+ degree alpha in that last round while just keeping following Raptor in that downward spiral. Most planes would be out of control at that point.

[@kcmsterpce]

Round 2 was EPIC! What an exciting, dancing display of kite-like poetry.

[@viper_4115]

That was honestly an impressive dogfight. I went into this thinking you weren't gonna get the kill at all and I have to say I'm surprised. I didn't think the Hornet would pull it off. Good job man.

[@walterblanc9708]

Usually you are so controlled with your cannon, last round is was "HOSEPIPE , if there is a 1/10th of a second on target, I want rounds in that F22!"

[@GM-fh5jp]

You *were* lucky with that last one. The pilot over ruddered the F22 @ 11:10 just when he had you exposed broadside for a gun kill :)

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Correct.

[@yaseen157]

Man the backdrop and weather effects are so scenic this video! Love a beautiful raptor and a hornet too

[@mrw3685]

The photo from the Super Hornet gunning the Raptor was back when the Raptor had a 1,000’ bubble in training and Hornets were and have always been 500’. The Raptor was lagging the merge to ensure a 1,000’ pass and the Super was tightening down; this happened several starts. This set the Raptor was easing at the start and the Super sold everything and got this fleeting shot; no BFM, just straight off the first merge.

[@noahnovak5768]

In your next video, can you explain the geometry behind flat scissors, rolling scissors, and downward spirals? Not sure how to tell the difference between those most of the time

[@joergmaass]

In Flat scissors, the planes weave left to right, keeping more or less the same altitude. Imagine two cars on the highway weaving thru traffic. In a Rolling Scissors, the third dimension is added, so they perform barrel rolls, essentially. A Downward Spiral is similar to a Rolling Scissors, but in the vertical, so both planes are loosing substantial altitude while doing the Scissors. Does that explain it?

[@joergmaass]

@@Markbell73 Sorry, no. But I can bark it in German and visualize it with two sausages and a Stein of beer…:-)!

[@kevw25]

"That's gonna be a prob... *splat*" RIP GS lol

[@user-mt1qi4vd1z]

That was pretty cinematic beating on your side, but your victory was even more epic

[@airbus7373]

“Alright that’s gonna be a proble-“ F-22: Damn right it is.

[@debbiestimac5175]

The clouds and lighting are beautiful! Steven Spielberg, Red Tails level, total immersion! 😎

[@whalehands4779]

And that snap shot picture, besides the air show ready Hornet vs combat loaded Raptor, the Raptor could have started defensive as well. Could have been a rookie Raptor pilot vs a seasoned Hornet pilot.

[@romero1337]

The dogfights have been great! Keep em comin!

[@darkphoenix2]

You really have to act and react perfectly to overcome the difference in capabilities between these two aircraft

[@JamesCooperCrackers2Caviar]

7:25 GS survives to eject...let's call that a victory 😂

[@accessdenied3379]

That final moment was so breathtaking!! I was thinking that you're gonna miss the shot again!!

[@edwinreid980]

I LIKE HOW HE LURED IMTO THE 2 CIRCLE FIGHT IN THE SECOND ROUND. GREAT CONTENT GS!!!

[@drkvenger]

Sidewinder would make Maverick proud. The pilot can make the difference in those underdog moments. Sure the odds are nearly insurmountable, but in the right scenario extending the fight and keeping it inside the WEZ, you give yourself a fighting chance.

[@americaniron5446]

Awsome! So much fun watching you fly the hornet!

[@thexrockefeller]

I really wish I could fly like that. I'm less than a week into learning DCS and the F-18 and every time I watch your videos it is motivation to keep trying in hopes that I can get this good or close someday

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

I’m sure you’ll be even better than me, just keep practicing I wish I could show you how bad I was when I first started lol.

[@Kejogre]

I want to see you take on the F-22 with an ultra-light and a .38 special.

[@max4million47]

Gadayum I can’t believe the raptor managed to pull itself up like that at 11:17 Well done taking down the raptor Very entertaining video as always

[@AhHereWeGo]

All thanks to the insane thrust/weight ratio

[@XiaOmegaX]

At sea level(ish) the raptor has enough thrust to do it.

[@AhHereWeGo]

@@XiaOmegaX Sea level in this case wouldn't matter as much because it's at ground level and pushing against solid ground instead of just air and exhaust

[@XiaOmegaX]

@@AhHereWeGo that's not how air pressure works. Anywhere under 500ft MSL gives max thrust. The terrain around coastal areas is down this low. Raptor has enough thrust to pull out of something like that with ease anywhere under 5000 MSL, much less down in denser air.

[@AhHereWeGo]

@@XiaOmegaX That IS however, how thrust works. It's the same reason that helicopters have a higher service ceiling when they can climb next to a mountain. Because the air pressure is increased behind the engines, when there is ground there, unlike when it's higher, it can spike the pressure under itself and increase the amount of thrust that would normally be had at whatever altitude.

[@bobbybolivia9304]

this was amazing to watch, love your content

[@XFSAngelOfDeath]

Every time growling thinks he has a chance, as soon as he opens his mouth *DEAD* 😅

[@jroe49]

Nice one Sidewinder and the clouds and Raptor smooth!

[@viktor_v-ughnda_vaudville_476]

Nice!! Good kill I love how you never give up no matter the odds stacked against you

[@stephenschroeder6567]

Lots of your videos have you "clubbing seals", but this time YOU were the seal. LOL This was a great video - thank you!

[@jameshisself9324]

Thanks GS, that last fight gives the Navy guys some brag rights over the AF guys. Would not have believed it unless I saw it. Well done.

[@pauldanrich3919]

Dude, you’re insanely good!!!👍👍👍

[@Rose.Of.Hizaki]

5:25 - _"No you can't, Don't even try"_ - William T. Riker (Starship Enterprise)

[@karlchilders5420]

Legacy Hornets can out turn Super Hornets. They are lighter and have slightly better nose authority. However, the Super Hornet (aka Rhino) has the RANGE that we always wanted on the bug. It also has more hard points, larger engines, and better radar and other electronics. Really, the Super Hornet delivered on the promises the Hornet was supposed to be able to keep.

[@tsepheletseka5115]

"Maybe if I can just......" SPLATT!!! I laughed so hard there. That was sop hilarious. 😂😂😂

[@busterdee8228]

That's one way to get us to watch 'til the end. Nice.

[@kingcasma121]

When you transition to a downward spiral, why doesn’t the f-22 transition to a “falling leaf” inside your spiral?

[@trvrbrdlyy]

I'd imagine in order to maintain energy

[@tuunaes]

Might not be easy against Hornet which isn't slouch on that either: That last round had lots of 40+ degree alpha meaning plane was as much falling down as flying forward.

[@avramnovorra]

Man another underdog match! It's always a edge of your seat moment when the fight is this mismatched no matter the otucome

[@sahijrandhawa5480]

raptor really said "teleport to enemies six button" xD

[@dillpickle7844]

The cut offs this video are gold

[@warshrike666]

Awesome video GS, could only hope to be half as good a stick as you are nice fight mate some beautiful flying. 👍

[@cooperanderson3324]

Love the "Think" merch! that looks amazing!

[@Daniel-yj3ju]

Great to see you fighting a clearly superior aircraft. Lots of fun

[@kennethseden]

The flight action of The F22 seems to defy all known aeronautical physics.

[@ChadZLumenarcus]

The cloud comment got me LOL The clouds do look amazing though ngl

[@Gerald10284]

Thanks again for another great video.

[@bass305-HCCA]

"Maybe if i can just......" 🤣🤣

[@scorpinoxog]

Lmaoo the way he was like "Maybe if I just..." {DEAD} got me crackin up🤣🤣🤣

[@vatren765]

beautiful. I love it man. the first KIA is so good.

[@Footballin111]

Been waiting months for this one

[@jamesscalzo3033]

Loved the video @Growling Sidewinder! Can't wait for the next video man! The Fact that you got Pilot Sniped TWICE by the Raptor is incredible! F-22 Raptor against the Su-27 Flanker when?

[@johnhermann7498]

Truly epic last fight!

[@Dki101]

imagine chilling in the grass enjoying the nice weather, then an f18 mistakebly gun runs you trying to take out an f22

[@Velanestar]

Love seeing my favorite jet showing why it's still being upgraded and tuned, for 44 years. FA-18 supremacy!

[@jj1brosky]

I love your content keep working hard

[@satcom6]

4 "nos'" and a "yea" means "yes". Well done to the f22 and GS, thankyou for the vid and exploiting your aircrafts capabilities, and trying to capitalize on your opponents mistakes. Nicely done to both.

[@Strykenine]

Man you really bit the bullet on that first one! Zinger! Ayyyyy....you can laugh now. Any time.

[@FPS.Lancer]

The f22 is like the F1 car but on a 3D track. Insane traction, fast recovery, super aerodynamic.

[@demben9335]

one ive wanted to see for a while

[@johncee853]

I've loved the Hornet ever since the movie Independence Day.!

[@intlon4299]

just started watching the video and its already epic

[@user-xz9hu4rd2v]

“Lt. Winder, the ambassador called, he said you 20miked a dozen nuns in that courtyard when you killed the Raptor!”

[@Pilot-2020]

Imagine a real life pilot saying "We got crushed in the 4th turn...it happens:)"

[@Jahr_1974]

Growling Sidewinder here making banger videos

[@war99120]

love these dogfight vids =u=) it like watching a dance between two aircrafts

[@donphobos]

I the end you have been literally hosing him down with bullets... Amazing fight!

[@sledgehammerk35]

Hornet is a great AoA fighter, but once the energy is gone, it’s over.

[@MrFiveSevenguy]

Dude nice well done

[@nachovazquez8916]

I don't think that was possible, that's amazing men

[@blacky6469]

have been waiting for this one :)

[@KyleSchwanz]

Nice finish!!!!

[@roguestudios2189]

That pilot kill was so clean

[@AnilArya51]

Beautiful fight there

[@matthewlogan4616]

first round first turn, he did the whole f22 jazz and had you but didn't pull the trigger lol

[@siryellow6383]

Great vid. You should do more vids on this map.

[@thomaskok5773]

5:25 Raptor: Nope you're not.

[@Matterian]

I love the Howl the F-18 makes. Very distinctive. They would come from Lemore out back of Southern Atascadero California. Great flying. Great video.

[@robertwhite7845]

God damn he shot the freaking canopy. Headshot fatality.

[@nercksrule]

Hornet vs Raptor... An interesting question.

[@debbiestimac5175]

Growling here is using Mirage/F-106 tactics to counter the F-22. Nice!

[@WOLFER.]

I wish there was a channel where you grab a requested aircraft by the viewer and they test out everything like how good is in the two circle against that aircraft, can it beat the same aircraft but in a 1 circle, does it do even better in a rolling scissors? You know, a channel that can test two request aircraft against each other and see what they prefer when facing each other in a dogfight.

[@Saffi____]

1:39 It's just a flesh wound.

[@bijorno]

Definitely my favorite asmr channel

[@God_is_in_the_details]

It's like fighting the love-child of a frisbee and a boomerang.

[@TheCulturedMan34]

A boomerbee? Frisberang?

[@jetnoise007]

My Finster was slamming shut on some of those moves!!! But good fights anyways!! keep up with MORE VIDEOS!!

[@swordmonkey6635]

The think the BIGGEST enemy for a Raptor pilot in DCS is complacency. Just getting too comfortable with EZ Mode fast kills and being able to do circles around the other jet. That's when stuff can get sloppy for the Raptor pilot because they get drunk on how great the Raptor is and forget it still needs to be flown smart with BCM in mind. The mindset of "Oh watch me do this..." and "watch me kill him this way" instead of "fly smart and take the enemy down". Raptors are great jets to fly, but they will lull you into your own death if you don't focus.

[@thomasmadden7580]

The super hornet has slightly better odds against the raptor than a hot air balloon full of dudes armed with Chinese AK’s

[@grimmer2005]

12:17 crazy detail!

[@kevsk22]

Great video. As always sidewinder! Any plans for some more ww2 faces offs?

[@briantaylor9285]

That was brutal.

[@gianniesposito2084]

I feel like sidewinder is the unstoppable pilot if he flew for the airforce.