How GREAT were Onix & Steelix ACTUALLY? - History of Onix & Steelix in Competitive Pokemon

[@common_w99]

Fun fact: A snake that is made out of rocks, 28 feet high and weighs 463 pounds has a less attack stat than Foongus who is literally .8 feet.

[@GIR177]

Mudsdale weighs more than twice as much as Steelix.

[@breloommaster12]

Onix's Tackle hurts as much as a Wurmple's

[@Will-uv9kx]

Shouldn't onix weigh loads more? 28 feet And made from rocks? There are 5 foot tall WOMEN that exist on earth today who weight more than that. Lmfao

[@common_w99]

@@Will-uv9kx Ask game freak ig 😂

[@siddhartacrowley8759]

Gentle Giant

[@ritwikism]

Can you imagine the first person to start using Dragon Breath Steelix trying to explain that damaging for less than leftovers recovery is a feature not a bug?

[@Zorothegallade-gg7zg]

And that being outsped by Lugia even after it used Curse was one of the best tactical advantages

[@Sintra4]

When they talked about that, I just said aloud "God, I love Pokemon."

[@Garvant_]

​@Sintra4 fr my jaw actually dropped and I felt such love for this game

[@doug-goat]

Seeing the title of “how great was Onix actually” kinda made me scared

[@terraSpark902]

Fr 😭

[@MrShadowThief]

He obviously meant in size.

[@sephikong8323]

Well, Onix is one of the best Little Cup mons in several gens so I personally wouldn't be surprised (that fact alone is the reason this was probably my most anticipated remake as that was the sort of things that the old videos never gave a thought about)

[@619Slipk]

April fools all over again

[@gogogo123454321]

why would that scare you

[@Magic_Ice]

Ah yes, the Pokémon designed for one boss fight and cursed with bad stats for that.

[@Zorothegallade-gg7zg]

If it didn't have an abysmal HP stat everyone who picked Charmander wouldn't be able to just scratch it for 1-2 damage at a time.

[@Magic_Ice]

@@Zorothegallade-gg7zg ember does a lot to Onix. Tbh it tells players to target weaker defense stats instead of just type effectiveness. And then in FRLG they ruin that by giving charmander metal claw

[@_Vengeance_]

@@Magic_Ice Isn't Ember still better though: 30 base power vs 100 base power (STAB and type effectiveness included), but base 45 Special Defense vs base 160 Defense and Charmander has slightly better Special Attack than Attack. On top of that Metal Claw can miss, and Ember's 10% effect chance is more useful than Metal Claw's since FRLG Brock isn't snorting Full Heals like crazy unlike his RBY counterpart.

[@Magic_Ice]

@@_Vengeance_ i agree it’s better! Unfortunately most people will click metal claw anyway because they think super effective attacks are better.

[@dusk6159]

Thank heavens that there's Steelix

[@thefirespecialist9007]

Interesting fact: Onix learned no Special Moves in Gen 1, so that Base 30 Special was purely for its Special Defense.

[@lock_checker4342]

I wanna see an Onix use confusion lol

[@thefirespecialist9007]

@@lock_checker4342 Onix Confusion on a Muk is a 7 Hit KO!

[@lock_checker4342]

@@thefirespecialist9007 LOL

[@nuclearpzn]

@@thefirespecialist9007 Truly a revolutionary discovery and will shape how OU is played for years to come.

[@thefirespecialist9007]

@@nuclearpzn Onix Confusion on Alakazam is a 36 to 46 Hit KO too, with each hit doing 2.2% to 2.8%

[@brandontherabboat4850]

Take one look at Onix’s stats and typing, and it becomes glaringly obvious that it was designed as a tutorial boss first and a party member second. Those Tackles and Scratches that’ve seen you through up until the Pewter Gym? Worthless on it. Bubble or Vine Whip, though? Boulder Badge is already yours.

[@borbafatt]

I see people say this all the time but honestly, the logic just isn’t there. Onyx is so vulnerable because of how bad its special is, that even a resisted move like ember still does decent damage. And bubble and vine whip one shot every time. They could’ve easily gave onyx decent to good HP/attack stats and it wouldn’t have made the first gym battle any more difficult.

[@smonkk8556]

@@borbafattsure, but its a very basic knowledge check. even to get the okay damage from ember, you need to understand that physical and special damage are different and some pokemon may be physical walls but have middling special bulk. you overcome its defenses through special attacks and bypass the tutorial through using supereffective moves

[@AllanaRace]

​@@borbafatt it would have been really punishing to Charmander kids. My big theory is that I think it's a bit of both. They wanted a really cool boss pokemon for the first gym and Onix worked on terms of typing and design, so they have it wack stats

[@borbafatt]

@@AllanaRace it’s not punishing at all for Charmander. Neither Geodude nor Onyx have any rock or ground type moves. They have tackle and bide. And because both of their special is so low even though it’s resisted, ember still can easily take down onyx in just a few hits.

[@misteral9045]

No it's Brock's spirit animal. It's a rock snake because Brock is always thinking with his excited trouser worm. It has low hp because Brock is a creep but not a big creep and easily shooed away, it has low attack because Brock is a creep but he's mostly harmless about it, it has huge defense because Brock is content in his creep ways and won't change, it has terrible special because Brock is a himbo with little imagination (so dumb he accidentally is genius sometimes but also oblivious to his own shame), and it has decent speed because Brock loves his "jelly donuts" but still works out and is healthy. Edit: and Steelix is the successful version because all Brock needed to do was wear some protection. Like wearing a frying pan as a drying pan. Onix was good in LC because that kind of thing is cute when you're little.

[@christianbuffum-robbins8904]

"Low Sp.Atk EV Dragonbreath Steelix" is a strat that feels satirical, like it was designed to make fun of Pokemon players...

[@skeetermania3202]

Also funny how a crit in that situation is somehow a bad thing.

[@et34t34fdf]

Wait until you hear about bubble beam rhydon in gen 1...

[@neckbeardneet]

@@et34t34fdf Or Harden+Mimic Armaldo in Gen 3.

[@skeetermania3202]

@@et34t34fdf What’s that for?

[@et34t34fdf]

@@skeetermania3202 Bubblebeam has a 33% chance to lower speed in gen 1, bubblebeam+EQ kills opposing rhydon just like two EQ does. Essentially, it's a 33% chance to guaranteed winning the mirror match up, obviously it's useless for anything else, so switching out sub or body slam for it is not usually adviced.

[@sosams]

I love how the OG video started saying "look at that defense! It's even higher than Skarmory's!" And now it starts saying "Onix was pitiful"

[@benikujaku4567]

"Unfortunately..."

[@Midnight_Ruby]

@@benikujaku4567each gen gets more and more “unfortunate”😂😂

[@Rarest26]

Onix is perfect in the “screwing up a nuzlocke because of a friend” niche.

[@Boarbatrice]

WHAT DID I SAY BRADEN?!?

[@ckoejake9966]

WHAT ABOUT STURDY!

[@ShenaniganBros1]

OKAY SO FIRST OF ALL

[@LiquidPr1d3]

Pchal: Yeah so there was no reason to do that.

[@worshiperofthelegendarypig9429]

Sturdy doesn't even work like that in Gen 3!

[@skeetermania3202]

Dragon Breath to minimize damage so Zapdos can’t Rest after Leftovers? Galaxy brain strats right there. Also hilarious that a crit in that situation could potentially be disastrous.

[@leobuana7430]

Getting crit is that moment when someone manage to get you with counter from wobbuffet for reasons

[@clintonbehrends4659]

the gen 2 colleseum steelix not even having an animation for getting hit physically is amazing it just sits there and eats it

[@Zorothegallade-gg7zg]

Metal Coats, son! They harden in response to Pokémon trades! You can't hurt me, Jack!

[@DJPrimeAmvs]

That's because in stadium pokemon don't react to moves that were not very effective

[@noinfo1018]

@Zorothegallade-gg7zg Making the mother of all walls here, Jack! Can’t fret over every hit!

[@solidzack]

​@@Zorothegallade-gg7zgPlayed Gen 2 OU, y'know

[@clintonbehrends4659]

@@DJPrimeAmvs oh that is a cool little detail wish the modern games did that (maybye taking into account how much damage the move does too)

[@nicholaslogan6840]

The Steelix dragonbreath to paralyze Zapdos and stop rest with its own leftovers made me burst out laughing. That's too excellent.

[@skeetermania3202]

Also, since it’s immune to Spikes and can’t be poisoned when paralyzed, you then have to get your Zapdos damaged to Rest again. Double Galaxy brain.

[@LloydTheZephyrian]

@@skeetermania3202 Sounds like a Joseph Joestar plan.

[@AhmedHussain-ju6xd]

The fact that onix has a lower attack then odish still baffles me to this day 😭

[@RFDN0]

It is meant to be a first boss. That is all that really needs to be said.

[@TheHeavieKiwie]

​@@RFDN0I'm glad people are understanding this.

[@TheHeavieKiwie]

I kinda wish it's attack stat or hp stat was increased because it was such a waste to see a fast defensive Pokémon going to waste but I guess that's what Steelix is for.

[@TheHeavieKiwie]

I mean like Farfetch'd got like a 40+ attack boost back then.

[@FaeQueenCory]

​@@RFDN0it's also because Oddish is part Poison, a physical type in gens 1~3.

[@mcdonnell-douglasdc-1056]

Not gonna lie, Mega Steelix was a favorite Mega of mine design wise. A giant steel coated wyrm with protruding crystals and floating shards around it? Might be the most metal Mega design wise (pun intended). If another Pokemon: Legends game comes out, I wanna have an open world battle against Mega Steelix, Shadow of the Colossus style.

[@doubl2480]

That would be so cool!

[@Scorpionspear77]

Who knows? With Megas coming back in Legends ZA, you might get your wish

[@danielcrud9345]

@@Scorpionspear77 If Legends ZA continues the gameplay style of Legends Arceus, i.e. being able to evolve trade evolution Pokémon without trading, Mega Steelix will likely be my go to defensive staple.

[@AceToast777]

The 4D chess move of Dragonbreath in Gen II and the reasons it interacts with Rest Zapdos is crazy. I can tell BKC had fun with that one

[@ethanhall2655]

*Evolves from literal Route 1 Pokemon *Underspeeds the phasing move to counterphase *Runs min Sp.Attack to deny Rest’s status removal Gaming.

[@joesphstylin6532]

I did a Crystal Nuzlocke once and managed to catch an Onix early on. It was beast going up against the first four gyms since it resisted pretty much all of them. Because of that, I have a fondness for Onix, despite it not being good.

[@thearrivalalex450]

It is criminal that Onix being protagonist of the single funniest moment in nuzlockes hasn't been mentioned at all

[@HBKARDS]

What nuzlocke

[@MysticdestructionAJ]

WHAT DID I SAY, BRAYDEN, WHAT DID I SAY?! I thought it had sturdy!

[@thearrivalalex450]

@@HBKARDS Check out "How I survived my first nuzlocke" by Alpharad

[@VivosaurACE]

@@HBKARDS alpharads first nuzlocke

[@雪者]

And it was also named "Mewtwo" of all things

[@tempgamefreakgaming]

I've always thought Onix was a menace as a kid only to find out it's HP was pathetic in the game

[@bigslappy823]

I love how Onix's later success is just "Here's your juice box, my child. Now go wreak havoc on Little Cup."

[@ChuckFinnley944]

Having a mission similar to the one for Bloodmoon Ursaluna for a Crystal Onyx would be amazing. Boost its stats to be competitive, give it a unique ability that gives it immunity to water type moves. Awesome.

[@lukthere2]

Was thunking the same. A water resist crystal onix would be such a cool homage to the anime series and a possible nieche thing in the game.

[@Seeker_of_Truth_and_Beauty]

As excited as I am for this remake, my heart remains fixed on another. Soon, the Tyrant of the Sands will display for all to see how much of a GOAT he is

[@nathanielvantassell8809]

Holding out for another FSG movie

[@Moakmeister]

Fun fact: Onix weighs less than Golem. Yes, the Pokemon which is the size of one boulder is heavier than the giant snake which is made from many equally-sized boulders.

[@ChameleonGamez]

I’m glad Onix got an evo, he really needed it.

[@GeneralSecura]

Imagine how good Mega Steelix would've been if it had literally ANY other ability. What if it had Filter like Mega Aggron? What if it kept Sheer Force? If it were up to me, I would've given Mega Steelix Magnet Pull as its ability. Make it the ultimate Steel trapper. It makes thematic sense for it too, seeing as how it has a ring of metal shards orbiting around it. Mega Steelix with Magnet Pull would've been guaranteed OU for sure.

[@M3rtyville]

Still waiting for the counterparts to complete: - Carracosta - Seviper - other gen 5 monkeys - Gothitelle - Alola Starters And I guess we could finish up Gen 2 with Sunflora, Magcargo (Slugma Male Grindset paying off when?) and Corsola. I think those are the only gen 2 Pokemon left to wrap it up.

[@beanburrito4405]

Steelix is metal as hell

[@Cobalt957]

It goes hard

[@RandomDude-k7w]

Too bad it sux

[@cobalt7248]

I see what you did there

[@Cobalt957]

@@cobalt7248 Hello fellow Cobalt enjoyer

[@JCBro-yg8vd]

Steelix is basically the Umbreon of Steel types, the face of the type and the mon most associated with it.

[@blu6295]

*insert "I associate this other pokemon with that type" here*

[@deltalord6969]

As a massive fan of steelix and the history the original video has with the channel i was beyond excited for him to get to this eventually and finally its here

[@nerddwarf]

Personally, I love Steelix @ Steelixite/Leftovers Ability: Sturdy EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD Sassy Nature IVs: 0 Spe - Curse - Gyro Ball - Body Press - Earthquake With or without Trick Room support... but with it please

[@tsukara]

this is SS natdex, isn't it?

[@unknownartist689]

GF thought of Sturdy, but it's already a wall, why they gave an ability for not being one hit down, It already has a defensive presence.

[@nerddwarf]

@@unknownartist689 None of the moves on this set benefit from Rock Head or Sheer Force

[@cranapple3367]

Dragonbreath in gen 2 and Onix as Sunny Day user are some great hipster strats.

[@EXstormDragon]

To the Onix that spent some 20 years on that grind set to make itself good when it could've just evolved into Steelix, I salute you. You're a real one.

[@Smart1529]

A video that one of my all time favourites deserves. No sprinkles nonsense, just a fair review for both Onix and Steelix. Onix is designed to be a boss character than an actual player choice and of course Steelix changed that along with, of course, new game mechanics changes. People actually forget that Steelix was still good in Gen 3 despite Metagross and Jirachi existing. My one suggestion to GF to help improve Steelix is to give it 10 points to it's Attack. It's not hitting hard enough.

[@619Slipk]

Those roar mechanics in gen 2 make absolutely no sense But hey, as long as it's favoring my boy Steelix I won't complain

[@miguelmagat9640]

2 Remakes in One week? A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one

[@DeinoChenus]

Onix just made the fastest gen 1 overview in false swipe gaming history, that's why it's great.

[@danielferrieri7434]

False Swipe Gaming: Says that Onix is good Jynx: Laughs in Ice Punch Pokémon Challenges: 😡

[@sonofhades57]

Wow, another feature-length remake in one week? You spoil us!

[@detectivemuffler8083]

I honestly wish Steelix were available in Scarlet and Violet, I can only imagine the shenanigans it could pull when played properly.

[@iantaakalla8180]

I wanted Aurorus to be in Scarlet and Violet. I wanted it to see how it would do in sandstorm and snow weather now that it can take advantage of both, like Mamoswine or Alolan Sandslash.

[@DalkanoMudDrip]

So, a small side note of Steelix, in pokèmon GO PVP, there was a brief period of time where Steelix was top 5 in both the great and ultra league, it got access to breaking swipe a few updates ago and single handedly got breaking swipe nerfed to only have a chance of lowering the opponents attack, so it was insanely bulky and would just get bulkier every few attacks, as a result, Breaking Swipe got nerfed, dropping Steelix's ranking, but it also caused master league meta pokèmon like Haxorus and Rayquaza to get nerfed too due to also having Breaking Swipe, idk who thought it was a good idea to give it breaking swipe, but I despise them for ruining my boi's Rayquaza and Haxorus

[@StacheKing]

Still remember getting a Steelix in Pokemon X in a trade for a measly Luvdisc. Sure it wasn't a mainstay on my team, but it was still an absurdly good trade for what it was to me.

[@Smart1529]

Shout out to Thumper. 👌

[@sopadumacacoumadelicia5]

​@@Smart1529 In Spanish it's name is Titanix 🤑

[@Smart1529]

@@sopadumacacoumadelicia5 Even better 👍

[@Oscarus4250]

Given how easily Luvdisc is found (Cyllage City, where the trade occurs, with 100% encounter chance while fishing), Steelix is basically a gift Pokemon. And, in terms of matchups, it is good against Grant, Clemont, Valarie, Olympia, Wulfric, Wikstrom, Drasna and around half of Diantha's team.

[@Nuvizzle]

It's really a testament to how bad Onix is that it, a formerly fully evolved pokemon, was never once considered too strong for Little Cup after gaining an evolution. I think that's an honor it shares only with Lickitung, but Lickitung has at least always been a very good LC pokemon.

[@xgnik5334]

Damn, crystal onix unlocked a core memory in me! I spent days looking for it in the early games.

[@TrulyAtrocious]

Steelix, the only boss who flips the scropt and becomes significantly better when you unlock him as a playable character

[@cuttululu]

"Switch into Jynx, see, ice punch" "WHAT DID I SAY BRAYDEN, WHAT DID I SAY!?" "oh but sturdy..." _then you faintly hear_ "FIRST OF ALL, STURDY DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY IN GEN 3, IT JUST STOPS OHKO MOVES, SECOND EVEN IF IT WORKED THAT WAY, WHICH IT DIDN'T TILL GEN 5, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN OUTSPED BY JYNX AND DIED REGARDLESS... OH, JAN, BUT THE QUICK CLAW, YES THE QUICK CLAW..."

[@CommentPositionInformer]

Of all the Pokémon to be "Great" in competitive, I certainly didn't expect Onyx to be one of them.

[@goldenhydreigon4727]

How FUNNY was, "What'd I say, Brayden?! WHAT DID I FUCKING SAY?!," in the Alpharad Fandom ACTUALLY?

[@DGFTardin]

19:46 Snorlax?

[@larsweise7866]

Petition for giving Onix Huge Power as hidden ability. Such a cool Pokémon deserves some love outside of little cup. It can still be Brock's ace with its normal abilities in game.

[@AnApePlaysMinecraft]

Yeah that and plus 35 attack and 25 or so speed aaaaand 40 HP

[@nerddwarf]

Huge Power Onix hits as hard as Buzzwole/Roaring Moon (Assuming 252 EVs, 31 IVs, and a +Atk Nature for all.) (If 0 EVs, 0IVs, and a =Atk Nature for all, then Huge Power Onix hits as hard as Hisuian-Samurott, Carracosta, or Scovillain.)

[@sopadumacacoumadelicia5]

​@@nerddwarf maybe Sheer Force since Steelix gets that

[@emblemblade9245]

Certainly deserves it more than fcking Azumarill

[@armorbearer9702]

Impressive, Steelix always found a way to avoid falling lower than RU.

[@unknownartist689]

If is allowed in a lower format is an earning, why want to restrict Pokemon more...

[@DukeSR8]

Onix: loses to everything Steelix: actually puts an effort in

[@1peidu]

38:12 No mention of Basedgod Freezai using endure weakness policy Onix to cheese mienfoo, sad days

[@RGBHD404]

GameFreak has the potential to do the funniest thing of all time by giving it Body Press

[@marcelosandoval4206]

Man I really love Steelix I stil make VGC Teams on XY/ OR AS Base and Mega alike Because Sheer Force makes viable both Physical and Special Yeah it deals nice damange in practice And Mega Steelix was useful in my Cacturne Sand troll team

[@JamienautMark2]

Steelix is one of my favorites but I hate using trade evolutions so I’ve only used one in Legends Arceus

[@ChrisPTY507]

Onyx and Steelix REALLY need stat increase in HP, Attack and SP. Defense. like 20 point in each stat, and only then it might be more competent

[@PedroHenrique-vs3mf]

TY! I just got a New Steelix and wanted to see how to use it

[@eRic-hr3yl]

Man I would love to see a video about Noivern

[@Lassoloc]

noivern has a semi-recent video on this channel

[@havoren]

Steelix is such a cool Pokémon, love it and its goofy face when it runs Gyro Ball into an opposing Pokémon.

[@FarCritical]

A giant metal snake is such a badass design

[@mrundy9351]

Fun Pokemon GO PVP Steelix fact. Steelix is the reason why Rayquaza fell out of Master League despite never seeing usage in the Master League. Rayquaza got the move breaking swipe and became amazing as it was able to take more hits. Then next season they gave breaking swipe to a few mons including Steelix. Breaking Swipe worked great on glass cannons but on something that could already take 3 back to back cross chops from a Machamp became over bearing to the point that breaking swipe itself was nerfed solely because Steelix was so dominant.

[@FrostGhidorahEX]

Steelix with its iron clad body and bulk has seen the landscape change wildly from Gen 2 to Gen 8 Yet Steelix itself has changed very little. Sure its gained tools. But Steelix has merely done what he's always had since the start. And honestly that's kinda touching. That even as the world changes. Some things just work so well they don't need to change with it.

[@The_PokeSaurus]

Onix and Steelix should get buffs to the attack, while Onix should get a pre-evolved form. Seeing that thing in Little Cup feels wrong to me.

[@LinkNinjaMaster]

If I had designed Onix, I would have given it the same attack stat as Geodude. I believe it would make it a threat early-game while not being overbearing, and frankly it would probably be as bad as usual in the rest of the tiers other than Little Cup, where I wonder if it would get banned even without Sturdy. Steelix would have 20 extra Attack, and 20 extra Speed, just to keep the total BST increase upon evolution, without making it an offensive nightmare in addition to its defensive prowess. ...oh, and I would make Onix rock only, without the Ground typing, which is more a detriment to it before evolution. Steelix would keep its typings, though, even if it was a bit weird for it to basically change types in this hypothetical time line.

[@nick-bh9er]

i really like steelix. it looks awesome. i’m happy it actually had some niches competitively :)

[@FloppeyPyro]

I'm not one for competitive play, but I do have to mention when I was running through a game with one to raise it to an appropriate level and see its stats, it was by far one of my best runs and it made me fall in love with the pokemon. I had a rock head curse steelix with rock head and gyroball, and since it was gen 6 at the time I had Mega to add Sand force and spam earthquake. Unfortunately I always got him messed up by special fire and water moves.

[@gogetablue942]

Fun fact about Onix! It can get one shot by a single Ice Punch from Jynx!

[@braedenwinstead1984]

Before or after physical special split

[@EbonyIsAHellhound]

​@@braedenwinstead1984 yes.

[@Smallsmallrose]

Mega Steelix in gen 7 UU is quite a fun story. Some of the stuff was mentioned in the video, but some big reasons it was also used were: -Latias was super oppressive with Elec-Z complimenting either it's dragon STAB or a boltbeam combination, this move shredded they daylights out of steels that weren't Mega Steelix. Its other niches over Aggron were notable, but this alone pretty much made it *better* than Mega Aggron on most teams. -It was genuinely more offensively threatening than Mega Aggron, it could do more damage to Latias and more importantly, it's Gyro Ball made it actually able to chunk Taunt Roost Hydreigon without a niche move, as Mega Aggron's Heavy Slam did surprisingly pitiful damage to the hefty hydra. They also mentioned the Curse set being able to handle Scizor, something primarily possible through it's stab EQ doing crazy boosted damage to even bulky Scizors. -It was also used in an early gen 7 UU meta that briefly unleashed Xurkitree, as it was one of the only things that resisted electric while not getting diced by either HP Ice or Energy Ball. Mega Steelix started off the gen as "Mega Aggron with a niche electric immunity" (As most common electrics did massive damage to it with fire moves) but ended the tier as Mega Aggron's superior because Mega Aggron just couldn't dice it against the dragons and Scizor punishing it for not running Fire Punch all day every day.

[@PikminAnd]

I know Onix gets a lot of slack for being poorly designed but it's genuinely nice to see it be useful in more modern Little Cup metas.

[@Verde-Firepaw]

THE DAY IV’E WAITED FOR!!!! STEELIX MY GOAT!!!! (Except Samurott, I need the remake please)

[@Rarest26]

Steelix AND Samurott enjoyer? Hell yeah (but dude no need to spam it every video, wait a few years so Hisui has more time to do stuff)

[@terraSpark902]

*Checks date* huh, this is a funny time to make an april fool's video 🤔

[@Artista_Frustrado]

it saddens me that Onyx was so bad for 5 Gens, as it actually looks way cooler & more intimidating, Steelix proportions are so whack & the Mega form doesn't really help. Also it bothers me that Steelix doesn't really look metallic still impressive that it manages to have a lot of options despite their stats

[@browncow5210]

For as notoriously bad as ground/rock is defensively, it's a great offensive type. I'd like to see them revisit that on something fast and hard hitting in the future. Shame Steelix isn't available in SV. I really wanted to try iron defense/body press tera fighting with him.

[@cjaquino28]

Gamefreak must bring back Steelix and give it the move Coil. Sheer Force + 3 Coils boosted Iron tail against any physical Pokémon, and GG... A man can dream; let me have this.

[@emblemblade9245]

I love how Onix’s stats are SO memeworthy that people can’t stop focusing on it even though it has an evolution whose stats people can focus on instead (since usually the final evolved form of an evolution line is gonna be the one that’s used competitively, so how bad or good the earlier forms is doesn’t matter. USUALLY.)

[@gmo53104]

Honestly I am curious how good the necrozma’s are cause they have been pretty consistent so I wanna see how it plays out with the false swipe gaming

[@IronDino]

I never understood why Onix never got an Attack buff after the Special split. Or even the Physical split. Nothing wild, just drop it's (useless) Special Attack by 20 and give it to it's Attack.

[@BoiledMrPibb]

Steelix in gen 2 sounds so cool that it almost makes me wanna play the hell known as the GSC metagame

[@danielmaynard239]

I thought the Blastoise remake would come next

[@JackDblade]

Steelix is still one my favorite looking Pokemon. PLA showed us how menacing wild Steelix looks. Yeah, mostly everyone hates trade item evolutions. Aggron replaced Steelix as soon as my Gen 3 adventure started.

[@aanngguusscclliinntt]

I wish the slowest phaser still got to go first, that makes a lot more sense to me and would give some more utility to slower Pokemon (much of the metagame is a showoff of who's faster these days). Since faster Pokemon move first in positive priority, then it would only make sense for the inverse to be true, ie. Slower Pokemon moving first in negative priority.

[@rockowlgamer631]

I like Steelix, i made a offensive steelix for trick room teams. Curse Body press Earthquake And Gyro Ball l With a special defense boosting speed lowering nature.

[@fulgenzio89]

I hate that they gave weather based abilities to Megas. Weather based abilities should always be an alternative, not the only choice

[@iceking241]

It's crazy how Onix was built so perfectly to be a first/tutorial boss. Big and imposing looking but mostly a pushover

[@p1austin767]

Fun fact: You can get Metal Coat early by catching or using Thief on Magnemite on Routes 38 and 39! (5% Chance)

[@BarcelonaBlitzer]

Can we get a separate evolution for Steelix like Crystalix/Diamonix? Eviolite Steelix would be metal. 😎👊

[@railroader2431]

Onix and Steelix are my favorite Pokémon of all time, so Onix having a bit of a chump attack stat makes me sad.

[@LordBeau]

Petition to redact the Gen 3 section. I know steelix isn’t even that good but I’m tired of seeing him as the 5th of 5 toxic users on a team

[@daltonfreeman6551]

with how awesome onix looks, i always thought it was meant to be tougher, but they had to nerf it cuz it's the signature pokemon of the first gym you fight Then I found out how janky gen 1 was and now he's just another oddity

[@D4NK1]

Crystal Onix should be a regional from that switches onixs attck and defense Becoming a literal and metaphorical "glass cannon" In fact its signature attack should be "Glass Cannon" 120BP rock move but reduces DEF and SPDF

[@darkdragon7210]

WISH it was introduced in Sun & Moon Games!!! WTH GameFreak? It should also switch its Special Attack & Sp. Defense as well! As well as be an Ice Type!!!

[@Alexdudegreen]

If Onix and steelix were in sv we could Teraizel and make Crystal onix real

[@qweschuning]

17:58 Gen 2: you either die a hero Gen 5: or live long enough to become a villain

[@cobalt7248]

Steelix is one of my favorite Steel-types as a whole: glad my boy got a remake

[@pacoramon9468]

Somehow the original Onix video is the 6th by views on this channel.

[@Ascera_exists]

Our mineral sneks...

[@iBenjamin1000]

I have never been so proud of steelix. steelix rules. and hey onix got somewhere eventually.

[@YesImJoeKing]

Dragalge, magcargo, drifblim or rotom and all of his forms! 💪💪💪

[@wigglytuffenjoyer]

I’m loving all these remakes! You and your team have only gotten better and better since 2017! Can’t wait for your remake on Clefable, that’s gonna be a marathon!

[@bdt2002gaming]

Pokémon Ranger’s iteration of Steelix is surprisingly tricky to tackle. Unlike most Pokémon in this trilogy, this thing can hurt you just by touching it with your Styler, on top of being large and hard to draw loops around. Spin-off bosses often don’t get a lot of appreciation on account of the games themselves, receiving the same treatment, and many players have said they didn’t have problems with Ranger Steelix at all. The important part either way is that spin-off games have special ways of making lesser appreciated Pokémon more memorable. It feels weird calling Steelix underappreciated, but either way how stacked the Steel-Type’s roster is nowadays, it kind of is.

[@Jinkuzu]

Onix was my first favorite pokemon that I remember cus I thought this massive rock snake had such an awesome design. The day my friends said it had an evolution I was in disbelieve . I rarely use Steelix nowadays, but I still love that design and wish Mega Steelix just ended up being a standard evolution.