How GREAT were Seadra & Kingdra ACTUALLY? - History of Seadra & Kingdra in Competitive Pokemon

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@silverkoffee
@silverkoffee 4 ай бұрын
The horse council will not be happy
@2rare2die26
@2rare2die26 4 ай бұрын
Clutch crossover
@Oksana2501
@Oksana2501 4 ай бұрын
It's Seadra Sunday folks
@darkdragon7210
@darkdragon7210 4 ай бұрын
Hahaha!!!
@BromanderInChief
@BromanderInChief 4 ай бұрын
This is insane.
@Samuel-pt2tl
@Samuel-pt2tl 4 ай бұрын
"I understood that reference"
@MarStarzzz
@MarStarzzz 4 ай бұрын
“Outclassed by Dewgong” is a sentence I never thought I would hear
@Flaming_Rok
@Flaming_Rok 4 ай бұрын
Dewgong is starting to have an interesting lower tier history, particularly in Gen 1 UU where it's the best defensive answer to Articuno. But in general Seadra's worse than you think it is, so being outclassed by Dewgong isn't super surprising.
@rajeshpr6190
@rajeshpr6190 4 ай бұрын
Dewgong is a great in lower tiers pre stealth rocks
@sephikong8323
@sephikong8323 4 ай бұрын
I swear that Kingdra is the quintessential "wait, I thought your stats were higher" Pokemon. It's total is high, but the first time you see it's spread i swear that most people are shocked at the fact it doesn't reach 100 in a single stat
@Deadknight237
@Deadknight237 4 ай бұрын
It doesn’t need 95 base attack. Put those points into something else
@joeyyoung5173
@joeyyoung5173 4 ай бұрын
@@Deadknight237 it does, in singles at least. Kingdra is great in part because you don't know if it runs physical or special
@Kasaaz
@Kasaaz 4 ай бұрын
In Doubles/VGC you are almost always running it in Rain for Swift Swim so you already have a 50% boost to those Muddy Waters, etc.
@taylorhillard4868
@taylorhillard4868 4 ай бұрын
Honestly i had sort of the opposite reaction. I never dabbled much in competitive, but i was surprised when i heard a gen 2 randomizer speedrunner say that kingdra was top A tier. I was like "i didnt think its stats were that good" since to me the only thing it had was good typing/almost no weaknesses. For neutral hits it always seemed like a mid stat pokemon to me. Usually high speed and high offense is preferred for those runs (like Aerodactyl or Dodrio) but i guess bulk helps when you use X items.
@sephikong8323
@sephikong8323 4 ай бұрын
@joeyyoung5173 Physical Kingdra has been very very niche compared to Special Kingdra especially post Gen 4. It's not that you are "guessing" when you see a Kingdra in front of you, you'll assume it's special as Physical Kingdra doesn't cross your mind. You might want to run it Physical to catch people off guard, but you'd end up with a much *much* worse Pokemon overall as Physical Kingdra has a worse coverage (by a lot actually as on the special side it can use Ice Beam and Hurricane) and raw power and you'd also be running a severely outclassed Physical rain sweeper (why not use Barraskweda, Kabutops, Basculegion etc ?) and if you're trying to do it with a Sniper Set then you're infinitely worse at abusing it since you don't have Draco Meteor to spam. And if you're trying to do a Dragon Dance set then congratulations, you've got like the 25th best DD user available. Physical Kingdra is a non factor. You could drop it's attack to 55 and increase it's SpA and HP by 20 each and the mon would be a lot better with not a lot lost in the process
@rubenduenas5881
@rubenduenas5881 4 ай бұрын
The pokedex states that Kingdra and Dragonite regularly fight in ocean storms. If that isn't the most metal thing ever, I don't know what is.
@darkdragon7210
@darkdragon7210 4 ай бұрын
Which one?
@TheMasterBlaze
@TheMasterBlaze 4 ай бұрын
Makes sense since Kingdra is a known Creator of storms while Dnite is a well known Rescuer during storms.
@JJNWSGHOST0299
@JJNWSGHOST0299 4 ай бұрын
​@@darkdragon7210Pokémon Sword.
@ansoni1295
@ansoni1295 4 ай бұрын
This was actually shown in the anime where Goh used Ash’s Dragonite’s cry to lure one to him
@cristhianmlr
@cristhianmlr 4 ай бұрын
Mega Aggron
@pacoramon9468
@pacoramon9468 4 ай бұрын
-We only have only line of dragon Pokémon, how can we fix that on the sequel? -Make just one dragon type and make it a trade evolution.
@88porpoise
@88porpoise 4 ай бұрын
Seadra's evolution into a dragon type is anything but random. In fact it is very strange that Horsea and Seadra aren't+ dragons when they are literally "the Dragon Pokemon"
@erdemuykan9219
@erdemuykan9219 4 ай бұрын
That is not even the most questionable thing in gen 2 lol
@skibot9974
@skibot9974 Ай бұрын
@@erdemuykan9219Yeha I’d say the most questionable is introducing the dark type but making Umbreon the only dark type you can get before the post game
@ToxicAtom
@ToxicAtom 4 ай бұрын
It may have been scrubby, but after the Crit Chance change in Gen 6, I loved the wack strategy of Scope Lens + Focus Energy + Sniper. Hilarious stuff.
@MattJammer
@MattJammer 4 ай бұрын
I adore that strat so much. It may not be the most optimal, but 100% crit Draco Meteor is amazing.
@SkarmoryJr-ov5zy
@SkarmoryJr-ov5zy 4 ай бұрын
Does a critical Draco meteor bypass the special attack drop?
@FrogAssemblyLine
@FrogAssemblyLine 4 ай бұрын
@@SkarmoryJr-ov5zy Yes
@MrCactuar13
@MrCactuar13 4 ай бұрын
@@SkarmoryJr-ov5zy There's a WeedleTwineedle video where she was abusing glitched Dragon Cheer to abuse Draco Meteor in doubles
@SkarmoryJr-ov5zy
@SkarmoryJr-ov5zy 4 ай бұрын
@@MrCactuar13 thanks for telling me
@sebastianchavez1225
@sebastianchavez1225 4 ай бұрын
I was super attached to my Kingdra in HGSS because it took max friendship to learn Draco Meteor and well i got very into the concept i mean i liked all of my pokemons but i'd imagine me patting its head
@AdamSchmitz
@AdamSchmitz 4 ай бұрын
It's stories/memories like these that make Pokémon special to us!
@YesImJoeKing
@YesImJoeKing 4 ай бұрын
😊. And I have one in my platinum.
@jonming6676
@jonming6676 4 ай бұрын
Shoutout to everyone that wanted to use kingdra in the early gens, but never had anyone to trade with 😢
@sussy3778
@sussy3778 4 ай бұрын
Kingdra really is the poster child for how insanely power crept Pokémon has become, balanced stats nowadays really don't seem to take you far due to how absurdly minimaxed a lot of the new mons are.
@eliyaskiya
@eliyaskiya 4 ай бұрын
Idk about the poster child, Tauros and Snorlax exist
@sussy3778
@sussy3778 4 ай бұрын
​@@eliyaskiya Tauros got screwed over more by mechanic changes than powercreep to be honest. And Snorlax tends to be good in most tiers it ends up nowadays. Snorlax issue really is that it lacks reliable recovery outside of Rest which is pretty bad for a tanky pokémon, it doesn't even learn Wish.
@rubadub15
@rubadub15 4 ай бұрын
@@sussy3778snorlax untiered right now… but yes primarily a recovery issue
@kiz5562
@kiz5562 4 ай бұрын
@@sussy3778 Snorlax should learn Slack off. Makes no sense why GF didnt give him that
@sussy3778
@sussy3778 4 ай бұрын
@@rubadub15 Yeah. Being a slow bulky attacker without reliable recovery really hurts it. Sad thing is that stat-wise Snorlax is actually not that behind, and it's movepool and abilities are amazing, but lacks the one thing that makes or breaks most walls.
@nicolasromani3523
@nicolasromani3523 4 ай бұрын
Kingra is so cool. It is a prime candidate for a mega.
@Kasaaz
@Kasaaz 4 ай бұрын
Would be cool to see another evolution of Seadra too.
@rxm8524
@rxm8524 4 ай бұрын
Or a variant like Paldean Tauros
@GravityIsFalling
@GravityIsFalling 4 ай бұрын
It’s not popular (Charizard) and it’s not already broken (mence) It has no chance
@FartSnicklesthe3rd8626
@FartSnicklesthe3rd8626 4 ай бұрын
@@GravityIsFallingaudino Banette and glalie
@magmarman2633
@magmarman2633 4 ай бұрын
​@@GravityIsFallingbro forgot about Mawile and Kangaskhan
@Karacetamol
@Karacetamol 4 ай бұрын
Oh man, I remember struggling to break through Kingdra in Crystal with my Typhlosion. Good times. Here's to the nostalgia!
@AwakeningShadows
@AwakeningShadows 4 ай бұрын
What makes Kingdra stand out is that fantastic type combination. Back in Gen 2-4, when its only weakness was Dragon, was an absolute menace.
@SagaciousSilence
@SagaciousSilence 4 ай бұрын
Wow I just realized Kingdra basically has Gen 1 Seadra’s same stats except 20 more HP and 30 more Attack. I guess the type-transformations in Gen 2 weren’t supposed to be focused on stats but on the better typing, like in the case of Scizor that gets no stat increases (just redistribution).
@fulltimeslackerii8229
@fulltimeslackerii8229 4 ай бұрын
Steelix:
@Limelime420
@Limelime420 4 ай бұрын
@@fulltimeslackerii8229I mean that was needed though 😂
@D-Havoc
@D-Havoc 4 ай бұрын
​@@fulltimeslackerii8229 It got harder. But also slower.
@tktyga77
@tktyga77 4 ай бұрын
Don't forget 50 more Special Defense as of Gen 2
@SagaciousSilence
@SagaciousSilence 4 ай бұрын
@@tktyga77 Wrong, they decreased Seadra’s special defense, and gave Kingdra the special defense that Sedra used to have when special was one stat.
@maximillian-fox
@maximillian-fox 4 ай бұрын
I remember long time ago having a Pokemon coloring book that contained a page to let you draw and design your own "future" pokemon when gen 1 was all we had in the States. My older sister drew what she wanted to see which at the time was a evolution of her favorite mon Seadra. I don't think I have the book anymore, but I do remember her drawing of a glittery purple and blue Seadra evolution with queen motifs and long seaweed tendrils. Funny how Kingdra is what we got in reality, which ended up being one of MY favorite pokemon. Would love a mainline game to give us access to full Kingdra early on again.
@vaporterra
@vaporterra 4 ай бұрын
Molly using Kingdra against Misty’s Goldeen in the 3rd Movie was just overkill 😢
@booshbear
@booshbear 4 ай бұрын
Mistys Goldeen wouldve swept a regular Kingdra
@cinder8155
@cinder8155 4 ай бұрын
Nah misty goldeen was a weakling
@darkdragon7210
@darkdragon7210 4 ай бұрын
@@booshbear How?
@sandshrew-alola
@sandshrew-alola 4 ай бұрын
She GameSharked the hell out of it
@sandshrew-alola
@sandshrew-alola 4 ай бұрын
Then again, Misty looked Kingdra dead in the face first and still decided Goldeen was a good idea
@yserareborn
@yserareborn 4 ай бұрын
“The truly old among us will remember when Seadra was a fully evolved Pokemon.” You really trying to start something on a Sunday?
@CocktailBoomin
@CocktailBoomin 4 ай бұрын
The horse council’s victory is now all but inevitable
@LionsEatNoobs
@LionsEatNoobs 4 ай бұрын
I think Kingdra is one of the most underrated Dragon Types. Even if it's no Psuedo-legandary, it's still awesome
@ChampionMarx
@ChampionMarx 4 ай бұрын
Kingdra was always one of favourite lower tier pokemon. It just has a cool factor that other pokemon don't in my eyes. Plus water dragon is just a good type
@dunkkato7030
@dunkkato7030 4 ай бұрын
the Remakes are always my favorite, when Tyranitar comes, may God bless you
@JJNWSGHOST0299
@JJNWSGHOST0299 4 ай бұрын
That one might actually be a movie.
@TheFireHawkDelta
@TheFireHawkDelta 4 ай бұрын
The mention of Clefable rising to UU in gen 1 makes me think about Clefable's weird journey in competitive Pokemon. A generation by generation analysis of Clefable would be almost completely out of order, as its usage in earlier generations is inspired by its performance in gen 6. Strip away Clef's gen 6 and gen 5 buffs and you're still left with a solid Pokemon.
@birds1omega6
@birds1omega6 4 ай бұрын
I still think that I'd like to see ZU coverage from gens 7 onward, because they're really interesting metagames, even if they aren't official.
@DukeSR8
@DukeSR8 4 ай бұрын
And for him to stop referring to ZU as untiered.
@Nyloxmc
@Nyloxmc 4 ай бұрын
0:10 GET OUT OF MY HEAD
@sealcuddl3r
@sealcuddl3r 4 ай бұрын
Me too dude :c
@aespa690
@aespa690 4 ай бұрын
I remember using Focus Energy + Scope Lens + Sniper. Not the most effective but auto crit ignoring Draco Meteros Spatk drop was fun
@FrinniferFran
@FrinniferFran 4 ай бұрын
Unideal but funny
@swagmaster699
@swagmaster699 4 ай бұрын
Sniper Kingdra with focus energy and scope lens, while fairly niche, is pretty fun Especially with draco meteor
@kicker3186
@kicker3186 4 ай бұрын
Always loved Kingdra. Cool design and cool typing.
@robbiehewitt55
@robbiehewitt55 4 ай бұрын
I was just looking for a new upload. Perfect timing.
@tktyga77
@tktyga77 4 ай бұрын
Seadra is one of mid stage evos that desperately needs some sort of buff(s) alongside its evo, but in slightly different ways (albeit in large part stemming from their rather shallow movepools). That said, I really like how your remake videos are covering more of the initially fully evolved pokes' careers instead of ending said points to once they get their evos, & I'd have thought it'd be a one-off thing with Onix & Steelix. Brings more need to recognize Middle Cup and/NFE tiers as full out metagame tiers like how Little Cup does so than ever before
@Glory2Snowstar
@Glory2Snowstar 4 ай бұрын
Seahorses IRL look at Kingdra’s acceptable Speed with envy. I may be more of a Dragalge person but I LOVE this line. Majestic and weird Dragon fish!
@SantosOverlord
@SantosOverlord 4 ай бұрын
a simple stat restribution would be enough, take out 15 attack and put it in spa, then 5 from each defense and put it on its hp, now it would have 85 hp, 80 attack, 90 defense, 110 special attack, 90 special defense and 85 speed, it would still have the balanced stat feel that they wanted while making it a bit bulkier and much more dangerous
@silver_was_found
@silver_was_found 4 ай бұрын
This is probably more “Kingdra stats” than Kingdra’s actual stats lol
@SantosOverlord
@SantosOverlord 4 ай бұрын
@@silver_was_found i aimed for something like that, i hope they update old mons like this to fight power creep
@aztumtheknightofwumbo7060
@aztumtheknightofwumbo7060 4 ай бұрын
So that raises a question. What new tools would you be willing to give Kingdra?
@SantosOverlord
@SantosOverlord 4 ай бұрын
@@aztumtheknightofwumbo7060 at best nasty plot, with those stats and abilities it doessnt need anything else
@SantosOverlord
@SantosOverlord 4 ай бұрын
@yoshiwoollyworld it does make sense to give that move since Seadra is poisonous, but i dont really see any extra move really fit most sets, only nieche
@ajoberdin
@ajoberdin 4 ай бұрын
i got here 20 seconds after the upload, its like my birthday
@gamermanzeake
@gamermanzeake 4 ай бұрын
Kigndra has always been one of the coolest water types! But also one of the many reasons I can't stand that the only way to obtain the trade pokes is if you do trade them with other folks. There's no reason why there can't be NPCs who trade you for these mons.
@JulianimeIsAmazing
@JulianimeIsAmazing 4 ай бұрын
Never forget that one girl in Sinnoh with the Haunter. (: Truly one of the most heinous moves of all time.
@mochiman6307
@mochiman6307 4 ай бұрын
For context in gen 9 kingdra is number 1 in ZU usage, wish fsg brought this tier up
@gb4206
@gb4206 4 ай бұрын
Unofficial tier
@woahdude5553
@woahdude5553 Ай бұрын
it just got banned
@mochiman6307
@mochiman6307 Ай бұрын
@@woahdude5553 its kingdrover
@zacherytaylor
@zacherytaylor 4 ай бұрын
Relicanth doesn't need an additional evolution to be perfect. We need a video discussing it's perfection
@enoyna1001
@enoyna1001 4 ай бұрын
Sounds like a topic for BKC
@KG-di1oh
@KG-di1oh 4 ай бұрын
Kingdra do be the early goated "Water-Dragon-Like" Pokemon!!!!!!!!
@Mm305star
@Mm305star 4 ай бұрын
Truly kinging the dra...
@ES-dp6tw
@ES-dp6tw 4 ай бұрын
It is nice to have this focus on Kingdra, definitely one of second gen's more memorable Pokemon and with some good highs. Had a thought mind. One of Kingdra's talking points was that it was only weak to dragon before fairy came along, which raises an interesting what-if; how do you think the metagames would have adjusted if fairy-type had been in Pokemon since the very beginning?
@JJNWSGHOST0299
@JJNWSGHOST0299 4 ай бұрын
Gen 1 would be wild. One Steel type, assuming it's retroactively applied to Magneton, and no good Poison moves. Clefable would effectively have no weaknesses.
@ES-dp6tw
@ES-dp6tw 4 ай бұрын
@@JJNWSGHOST0299 I know Mr Mime would be loving life in gen two if it had fairy back then. Beats dark with fairy STAB, beats poison with psychic STAB, the steel types are all slow and can be handled with Fire Punch, and the ghost types aren't particularly threatening outside of like destiny bond or something XD
@cesarmito5341
@cesarmito5341 4 ай бұрын
Mr.Mime would literally be one of the best mons in RBY just because it got a pinky type. Fairy type really is a huge buff on any mon that gets it.​@@ES-dp6tw
@dylanbuchanan6511
@dylanbuchanan6511 4 ай бұрын
Before fairy type, dragon/water was probably the best defensive type you could hope for. Add that on top of really even stats and access to either dragon dance or swift swim and boom, you have a very versatile pokemon that can adapt to many tiers.
@11_turtles
@11_turtles 4 ай бұрын
It's incredible that they covered Seadra in RBY NU even though it's super kneesh. Keep it up!
@sashasscribbles
@sashasscribbles 4 ай бұрын
Kingdra really deserves a stat buff. Mega Kingdra would be epic but even just a 10 base point increase in its attacking stats would go a long way A water or dragon type high crit move might go hard for kingdra too, allowing for Kingdra to use other items on its Sniper varient Going into dream buff territory though, imagine mega kingdra having an ability that combines swift swim and sniper together! Unlease the Dragon Hailstorm muhahahaha~
@jcminer8466
@jcminer8466 4 ай бұрын
YIPPIE ITS KINGDRA TIME FINALLY! Surely nothing will be said to absolutely smite my hype rn! I can't wait for a positive retrospective on the king of seadra babyyyy
@TheRRhoynar
@TheRRhoynar 4 ай бұрын
Do donphan the next, donphan is one of the few pokemon that have survived gen9, amazing gen for him, despite his low stats, he is Uu, in one of the most aggressive gens in power crept, he obtained 2 paradox variants, great Tusk being king in Ou, and Iron Treads was king in Uu, before he returned to Ou, Donphan is one of the biggest winners of the gen
@FrostGhidorahEX
@FrostGhidorahEX 4 ай бұрын
We need a regional form or something to bring Kingdra back Or maybe a mega. Just something. Anything. Also shoutout to that poor Kingdra that Totodile essentislly waterlogged by biting its mouth shut so it couldn't hydro pump
@M3rtyville
@M3rtyville 4 ай бұрын
waiting for the counterparts to complete: - Carracosta - Seviper - other gen 5 monkeys - Gothitelle - Alola Starters - Tornadus And I guess we could finish up Gen 2 with Sunflora, Magcargo (Slugma Male Grindset paying off when?) and Corsola. I think those are the only gen 2 Pokemon left to wrap it up.
@dramaticScar
@dramaticScar 4 ай бұрын
I like how back in the day the original videos were about how bad certain pokemon were in OU... now you have something positve to say even if they are in the lower tiers...
@natsusatsujinki8342
@natsusatsujinki8342 4 ай бұрын
That's the main lesson of Pokemon. Every Pokemon has some use. It just depends on the user v
@dramaticScar
@dramaticScar 4 ай бұрын
@@natsusatsujinki8342 except Ledian
@TheSandwhichman108
@TheSandwhichman108 4 ай бұрын
Water/dragon is an insane typing only having two weaknesses being dragon and fairy. Could you imagine if pokemon like Gyrados or Dragonite were given water/dragon as a type combination?
@SteveScapesYT
@SteveScapesYT 4 ай бұрын
For BW, I’m surprised that BKC didn’t mention that the “BAN KINGDRA” crisis was going on at the same time that Darkrai, Genesect, and EVERY Deoxys (including Deo-A) was in the tier- and Swift Swim Perma Rain Kingdra was almost universally considered MORE broken then them.
@hypphen
@hypphen 4 ай бұрын
truly one of the tiers of all time
@Arceusmemesidk-zk7tm
@Arceusmemesidk-zk7tm 4 ай бұрын
I just got this channel recommended for the first time in months glad to be back
@d.n.3652
@d.n.3652 4 ай бұрын
I still use Kingdra in rain. Tera water and weatherball hits harder than my drunk step-dad when I don’t give him his beer after work
@calebstanerstratsshop1834
@calebstanerstratsshop1834 4 ай бұрын
The dragon water type is such a cool combo.
@legopizza8063
@legopizza8063 4 ай бұрын
My favorite swift swim/sniper sweeper kingdra 🗣️🗣️
@paragonNH
@paragonNH 4 ай бұрын
Finally, one of my favorite mons ever. Can't wait to watch this!
@Sevvy_staxkz
@Sevvy_staxkz 4 ай бұрын
I could've sworn the thumbnail changed. I thought the most current photo of Kingdra was facing to the left, not the camera
@nerddwarf
@nerddwarf 24 күн бұрын
Gen 1 Seadra vs Gen 2+ Kingdra + 20 HP + 30 Atk + Dragon type Gen 2+ Seadra vs Gen 2+ Kindra + 20 HP + 30 Atk + 50 Sp.Def + Dragon type
@smugsneasel
@smugsneasel 4 ай бұрын
Kingdra...UNTIERED!?! We are way past the point of insanity!
@lionturbulence
@lionturbulence 4 ай бұрын
if you play ZU it’s good there I hear.
@SS4Luxray
@SS4Luxray 4 ай бұрын
I literally just evolved a shiny seadra in Pokémon go and just maxed out a level 100 kingdra in sword then this drops 😭😭😭 Kingdra is so GOATED to me and severely underrated
@thepureheartofdark
@thepureheartofdark 4 ай бұрын
Kingdra needs a stat update. An even stat spread in a game with meta overspecialization won't cut it.
@SweatShirt20
@SweatShirt20 4 ай бұрын
kingdra needs a stat buff and a boosting move for its special attack
@snapclub8751
@snapclub8751 4 ай бұрын
Kingdra and Ludicolo will always be the best Swift Swimmers in my books.
@wooffee2
@wooffee2 4 ай бұрын
40 minutes on favorite water horse. Love to see it.
@benjaminknight8041
@benjaminknight8041 4 ай бұрын
The answer to Kingdra's buff is simple. Give the man a mega form
@Qaos
@Qaos Ай бұрын
it's still funny to me that Kingdra has been banned from every tier below OU, and is in BL hell in 75% of the generations it's in
@gio9255
@gio9255 4 ай бұрын
Kingdra still is a awesome Pokémon especially with tera. Its lack of coverage, average speed and lack of offensive power is what holds its back compared to other dragons. It’s a shame it never got nasty plot, calm mind or bulk up to bolster its boosting sweeper potential. Hoping one day it gets an expanded movepool and more coverage (sludge bomb, flamethrower, energy ball, psychic, etc.)
@swordfishXO
@swordfishXO 4 ай бұрын
Kingdra is my favorite pokemon. Loved using choice specs kingdra in BW OU before they banned swift swim with drizzle.
@RobinOfYlisse
@RobinOfYlisse 4 ай бұрын
It's worth mentioning for those who don't know: crits also ignore your own attack drops, which makes draco meteor free
@jackeaton4393
@jackeaton4393 4 ай бұрын
If you are ever worried if a strong water with swift swim was not good in smogon look no further than gen 5.
@casualcraftman1599
@casualcraftman1599 4 ай бұрын
The original Seadra & Kingdra video was the first FSG video I've seen. Kingdra is my favorite gen 2 water type and unchallenged best gen 2 dragon type. I was never able to teach Kingdra Draco Meteor because I kept trading them between my Heartgold and Platinum games not raising friendship high enough.
@fulgenzio89
@fulgenzio89 Ай бұрын
I had totally forgot that Seadra has Poison Point instead of Swift Swim, and Horsea has Swift Swim. LULZ
@torru36
@torru36 4 ай бұрын
Really hope Kingdra gets a new form, like a Mega or something. Feels weird that Clair showing her development in the post game or tournaments is showcased by her Dragonair evolving.
@goldtyphlosion7537
@goldtyphlosion7537 4 ай бұрын
Kingdra honestly feels like a really underwhelming evolution stat wise from gen 1 to 2 seadra only effectively gained 20 attack and hp and dragon typing at a cost of 50 special defence thanks to the special change
@austinsmothers9868
@austinsmothers9868 4 ай бұрын
Not mentioning the advent of Fairy types or the addition of the move Freeze-Dry in Gen 6 is wild
@terractus9972
@terractus9972 4 ай бұрын
I mean tbf most fairies got smashed by water stab
@austinsmothers9868
@austinsmothers9868 4 ай бұрын
@@terractus9972 Belly Drum Azumarill was Kingdra’s #1 check for awhile, especially Specs Kingdra
@terractus9972
@terractus9972 4 ай бұрын
@@austinsmothers9868 azu was mentioned in the video already
@austinsmothers9868
@austinsmothers9868 4 ай бұрын
@@terractus9972 Man, during the Gen 6 section, the only Fairy type he mentioned was Whimsicott. Azumarill was good because it could switch in on Dracos and OHKO with Play Rough, as well as Altaria getting a Mega and being able to DD all over the place. Not to mention that Xerneas and Klefki are also huge reasons why Kingdra wasn’t even thought of in XY Ubers.
@lyg483
@lyg483 4 ай бұрын
@@terractus9972Kingdra also has flash canon
@TheStickCollector
@TheStickCollector 4 ай бұрын
Ones you don't expect to see
@globurim
@globurim 4 ай бұрын
I swear I have a primal fear of Kingdra since it was my first time playing Firered and instinctively thought Kingdra is a major threat in Elite Four.
@dmann5938
@dmann5938 4 ай бұрын
I love it. The Queendra. Shiny Kingdra is amazing
@adrianstyranitar717
@adrianstyranitar717 4 ай бұрын
The tyranitar remake finna be crazy
@tvftw1
@tvftw1 4 ай бұрын
Glad to see some Critdra representation in here, was never sure if it was remotely competitive or just pure meme
@noahberan6498
@noahberan6498 4 ай бұрын
"Dropped it down the elevator shaft" thats a Dr. Drake Ramoray moment right there
@thepunisher6674
@thepunisher6674 4 ай бұрын
The rain king Kabutops and omastar eat your heart out
@vvlaze
@vvlaze 4 ай бұрын
The wording at 5:55 makes me imagine these videos in the context of like, a job interview. Like “Would you like to explain the gap in your resume around gens 4-5?”
@yutogiovanna
@yutogiovanna 4 ай бұрын
I did give Kingdra a huge BST buff in an emerald edit I was working on and uh let's just say by the time my gym battle with Juan was over (who's overall team I made way better) I only had one mon left. Mind you not only I had Sceptile but the vast majority of my team either resisted one of it's stabs or both and I was still getting literally washed.
@chayoto
@chayoto 4 ай бұрын
Bless you for giving Kingdra the well-deserved love GameFreak denies it.
@2l84me8
@2l84me8 4 ай бұрын
Scope Lens/ Focus energy is a scary set. If you can actually set it up.
@blufftonitevideo
@blufftonitevideo 4 ай бұрын
From one of the best to Untiered; riveting.
@Jianichie
@Jianichie 4 ай бұрын
Kingdra is one of the Pokémon I'd love to see get a stats buff so it can keep up; at least get out of untiered.
@JanusHoW
@JanusHoW 4 ай бұрын
And to think, Kingdra lasted as long as it did before becoming Untiered without a single base stat over 100. Such is the power of Swift Swim. Also, Tyranitar remake when?
@JamesDavis-ox4iy
@JamesDavis-ox4iy 4 ай бұрын
Big shout-out to Joseph Brummett for making it to 10th with a 4 shiny squad. That is just awesome
@ValianceGames
@ValianceGames 4 ай бұрын
"Kingdra defeated OU" is terrifyingly accurate
@BottleDeopt
@BottleDeopt Ай бұрын
15:20 I thought Modest Kingdra's SpA caps out at 317? That is 2 points lower in SpA than Timid Latias, sitting at 319.
@fulgenzio89
@fulgenzio89 Ай бұрын
Yes you’re correct
@cbggaming1463
@cbggaming1463 4 ай бұрын
Hoping they buff Kingdra next generation, perhaps by giving a few new moves like Roost, Flamethrower, and the like. Sadly, I think Kingdra's stats are simply too powercrept to keep up.
@Theblackmetalhead1
@Theblackmetalhead1 2 ай бұрын
Idea sniper+weakness policy
@andrewzorpas234
@andrewzorpas234 4 ай бұрын
Half of the problem with kingdra currently is that it doesnt really use physical sets anymore, hence the 30 stat increase to attack is a major waste, especially with major minmaxing, to mitigate this, maybe lowering attack by 30 and increasing SpA by 15, Spe by 10 and HP by 5 would help kingdta out a lot?
@cesarmito5341
@cesarmito5341 4 ай бұрын
I agree with this change, it would still have the "balanced" stats that's trying to have but is just more update. Balanced stats all around 90 is not cutting anymore nowadays
@andrewzorpas234
@andrewzorpas234 4 ай бұрын
@@cesarmito5341 sadly true, but the big special attaxk buff and adjustment to speed while having fine bulk and solid defensive typing will give it a solid niche over other more potent waters, bulkier waters or other massively offensive ones
@chrisburns9898
@chrisburns9898 4 ай бұрын
Will always think it’s crazy they didn’t do increase kingdra’s speed or sp atk with the evo. Like, you give it 10-15 in either stat and it might actually have a chance.
@Brandon.thebaby
@Brandon.thebaby 4 ай бұрын
the only mon kingdra fears- empoleon
@slackerofhell
@slackerofhell 4 ай бұрын
The Horsea line is one of my favorites and it's kinda sad that I've never used one in a playthrough.
@colinvandenberg3446
@colinvandenberg3446 4 ай бұрын
There've been several Water/Dragon types since Kingdra, but Kingdra hadn't been overshadowed until very recently.
@michaelrodriguez4818
@michaelrodriguez4818 4 ай бұрын
I bet this video will make silphspectre happy. Can we get gyarados and magnazone remakes please! Also a flygon remake featuring lord flygonhg?
@YesImJoeKing
@YesImJoeKing 4 ай бұрын
Dragalge, magcargo, drifblim or rotom and all of his forms! 💪💪💪
@calvinmatthews1527
@calvinmatthews1527 4 ай бұрын
Still has a pretty badass design for a sea horse/dragon.
@Duuhvis
@Duuhvis 4 ай бұрын
I remember seadra being my second favorite only next to dragonite. Then it got an evolution and it became my favorite
@poke9051
@poke9051 4 ай бұрын
I just watched the original last week 😭😭 bro got so much material
@NRF-ql3bq
@NRF-ql3bq 3 ай бұрын
I used Kingdras competitively. They're very good. Especially it's Dragon Dance set in Gen 4 OU. The only Pokemon that can defend against it effectively in that tier is Empoleon. I'd say Kingdra is one of my favorite Pokemon to use as a sweeper and offensively!
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