Far-right Extremism & Nordic Symbolism

[@HyldemorsHave]

"Playstation overloaded fish brains!" Du gør det simpelthen så godt!!! 😂🤣

[@amyjones2119]

I've worn my mjölnir necklace almost every day for 6 years because it means a lot to me but sometimes I worry that someone will think I'm a Nazi because of it, and I even sometimes hide it if there's a situation where I'm particularly worried about it because I know no one is going to confront me if they do think I'm a Nazi, they will just assume that I'm a huge c*nt. It really makes me deeply sad to see what the Nazis are doing overall but also specifically regarding Nordic symbolism. Sweden almost banned the Tyr rune a few years ago because Nazis keep using it at demonstrations. I cringe a lot when I see Nazis larping as "vikings" and using this symbolism, it's so obvious that they don't know anything about it.

[@ClayBurt]

I've encountered similar feelings, though I have decided to wear the symbols I want and I hope that people see me do good acts with them. I hope that you are able to find the strength or perhaps conviction to keep wearing your necklace. I will if you do.

[@amyjones2119]

@@ClayBurt I rarely go a day without wearing it, I'm just mindful of the situations I'm in and hide it under my clothes if I think it's a good idea to do so

[@ClayBurt]

@@amyjones2119 It can surely be difficult. I hope that in the days to come that you have more and more opportunities to wear it out in the open.

[@Scar-jg4bn]

I'm at the point that I don't think I'll wear my Mjolnir or runes in public anymore. I'll stick to my pendant of Gullinbursti which I hold dear, and isn't a stolen symbol of alt-right extremism and racism. 🐗

[@PaganRyan29]

Do not be afraid wear your Mjolnir proudly

[@raphlvlogs271]

the Swastika can be described as a pan Indo European symbol thats why it was used so much in Hindu and Budist cultures

[@jackjohnson2309]

Beautiful video! I’m American, in Michigan (I’m sure you understand the significance), and I follow a Norse/Celtic animist path. I’ve stopped wearing my Mjolnir pendant this year. Luckily, I had a nice World Tree/Tree of Life to swap it out with.

[@steveanderson3444]

I'm next door here in Wisconsin. I've worn a Mjolnir for around 10 years. I'm too old and stubborn to give it up due to a knuckle dragging minority. Lol

[@NoctLightCloud]

@@steveanderson3444 pretty sure most people wouldn't even know what a Mjolnir is/wouldn't care.

[@ostracized666ther2]

Excellent topic and great insight! Being from Greece you can see the swastika symbol everywhere in the Hellenic art.. SOO sad and bitter because of what it has been done to these symbols...

[@univeriseman8008]

Its design can be found all around the world I believe. Probably something ancient humans made and kept when they migrated

[@ostracized666ther2]

@@univeriseman8008 Yea its like everywhere!

[@AimeeAimee444]

Hitler appropriated it and ruined the symbols. His movement sullied many symbols that were once a source of Nordic and Hellinistic culture. This not only happens to images but words as well. Everything changes in time. Germany now has put in law modern unacceptable symbols. (recently heard, not researched) In Australia there’s laws in process to prohibit visible symbols that represent hate. In the States, you’re allowed to wear any tattoo. If it represents intolerance, gang affiliation, it will be noted. If it’s so important to you, do what you wish but know people will place you within a category that you may not want.

[@Abjebo]

Hey! I want to write a bachelor thesis on the cultural appropriation of nordic symbolism by neo-nazis, do you have any advice for sources or contemporary sightings of such appropriation? (I had already seen teh charlotsville flag, which was actually my inspiration to start my research on this). Thank you anyways for the execellent video :)

[@NordicAnimism]

Mattias Gardells book "Gods of the Blood"

[@julietteelisabeth1734]

This message is one of the most important messages that needs to be said. By as many people as possible as loudly as possible. It’s something I’ve been aware of since I became Heathen in my early 20s. A very British Heathen saying that goes round is “Odin is the All-Father not the some-father”. It’s an increasing issue for us since Brexit seems to have given the far right the feeling of a greater release. Keep smashing bigotry.

[@RazeAVillage]

Hail! Love this video. I totally agree. It is not enough to be not racist etc. We must make a point of fighting bigotry!

[@ProWalter2]

8:17 it wasn't made by Himmler. It was actually made by SS officer Wilhelm Landig who went on to found the Landig Group focused Thuleism.

[@streetsorcery3285]

Saw this vid in Heathens Against Hate group, super interested in animism

[@ZeroGravityFuneral]

To bad that is one of the most hateful groups out their

[@aliasalone5823]

@@ZeroGravityFuneral Heathens against hate? Or Heathens? Either way you’re just wrong.

[@nanettefoster1625]

Wonderful video ❤

[@ramblingrootscamp]

I have been looking for many years for non fashy info on Nordic culture, it's been like trying to find a pearl in an outhouse pit. I am very happy to have found you.

[@NordicAnimism]

Thanks, and welcome to the channel. In case you are interested in my different thoughts on the politics of animacy, then check out my playlist with the same name kzbin.info/aero/PLpgfnnXC81dUnVSuQrkrOZs3ggaV90qsb

[@simongore29]

Your discussion about putting your art into the world and losing control over what it gets turned into very much reminds me of what Charles Manson found in Helter-skelter. Excellent video and well presented. Thank you

[@bullvinetheband7260]

I have the dagas rune is that being appropriated? This is a serious a question please answer as soon as you can.

[@LoremasterRelomi]

What publisher put out those KC red books in the background? (also library walkthroughs are always insightful)

[@NordicAnimism]

Its "Kulturhistorisk Leksikon for Nordisk Middelalder". I found it cheap

[@valeriy8502]

Your description of the boyish volkish comrardery sounds a lot like the Vikings show 😆

[@paganbanjo]

lol right

[@zekecastelli7256]

Perfectly expressed. You covered all the poignant elements of this issue very succinctly. Thank you.

[@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247]

My general rule is "If It Sounds Like A Bunch Of Comic-Book, Pulp-Fantasy Bullshit, It Probably Is." And I love comic-book bullshit. I like tales of heroes and magic and sex and transcendence and saving the world from the forces of evil. But I draw the line at treating anyone who doesn't look like me like a subhuman enemy, and also basing national leadership on medieval fantasy and poorly-imagined prehistory- to quote "Monty Python & The Holy Grail-" "Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government!" Heroic fantasy is awesome, but every once in a while ya gotta come back down, take your bearings and don't let some sense of "identity" turn you into an exclusionary asshole. As Sir Pterry once observed, "Only those with their feet on rock can build castles in the air."

[@jackjohnson2309]

*round of applause*

[@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247]

@@jackjohnson2309 I mean... I play at being a wizard. I ain't runnin' for high office, and there's a reason for that. And never trust anyone who thinks they're some kind of god-king. I could write a BOOK about this meat-brick from Sweden who thinks he's the vat-grown love-child of Leonidas Of Sparta and Gustavus II Adolphus.

[@jackjohnson2309]

@@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247 I absolutely agree! By any chance, is this “meat-brick from Sweden” also a KZbinr?

[@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247]

@@jackjohnson2309 He would be... ever hear of "The Golden One?"

[@jackjohnson2309]

@@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247 aahhhhh I have. I wanna say I’ve seen a video or two. I assume it didn’t sit well or I’d still be watching.

[@icebearspirit]

Excellent presentation. I completely agree with you

[@craftyhobbit7623]

I feel really sorry and angry for Muslim women because they are oppressed by some of the men in their religion and then by the world at large. One of the most ridiculous ones was France banning burkinis on beaches - they have to put up with so much misogyny and hatred.

[@moolikeachicken]

I'm so glad you're making videos, and I'm glad I've found them. It may sound stupid, but this video made me tear up.

[@danilarsson8685]

The owner of a Heathen Discord I'm on shared your channel with me, and I was so happy to see this video! Will definitely be sticking around!

[@paganbanjo]

this is the best channel by far for heathens, in my opinion. As knowledgeable and well sourced as Jackson Crawford, but with a focus and scope that is way more applicable to modern practitioners.

[@aftonair]

Thank you.

[@christiem.schaefer1374]

19:15 - whoah, bang! Thank you for that. The veneration of the vikings has been a constant thorn in my spiritual side. I appreciate this video for a billion reasons, and this is definitely a huge one.

[@mp1183]

By this logic, the immense human suffering perpetrated against Christians by the hands of Vikings should have sullied all of Vikings religious symbols. And the immense human suffering perpetrated by Christians should have sullied the symbol of the cross. But has it? Time erases all. And do you really think our Norse ancestors were anti-racist?

[@NordicAnimism]

Symbols can indeed be sullied, but this of course relies with the overall mass of how they are engaged. If millions pray to the Christian Cross then that defines the cross. If a specific easily recognizable for of the Christian Cross is associated with specific atrocities (perhaps the nazi iron cross), then that does define this symbol. Vikings weren't anti-racist, because racism didn't exist in those days, so they wouldn't have known what to be anti against. They were non-racist or even non-nationalist, - racism being (a particularly toxic) modality of nationalism

[@mp1183]

@@NordicAnimism Are you suggesting humans weren't ethnocentric before the modern concept of a nation emerged?

[@NordicAnimism]

@@mp1183 Nope! Ethnocentrism has likely allways been there, but it is only recently that this has become something to be cherished and refined into extensive complexes of behaviour, belief and ideology such as nationalism

[@martinvyslouzil2163]

@@mp1183 do you know what was the most important thing for people back then? It was not race. It was religion, black christians were treated with respect unlike white pagans.

[@rorschach1848]

@@martinvyslouzil2163 The most important thing for Christcucks, sure.

[@julsrox1]

I could listen to you throw shade at bigots all day! 😁

[@apheliondriff9694]

Thank you so much for this video and your input on the matter of race, bigotry, and hate. I honestly put off watching this more than a few times just because of the symbols themselves, but I'm glad I finally did, and even happier, you did not disappoint. I'll leave it at this. Your rock, Rune! And F*ck Nazis!

[@UtuleThulemowiosztuceponocy]

amazing material about a very, very interesting subject! thank you!!!

[@paganbanjo]

The best discussion on this I´ve seen!

[@oldenglishandlyre]

Excellent video. Thanks for this.

[@vampyrelle]

Loved that you emphasized the point made at 4:39

[@erikhoff5010]

I have always been a Norse Heathen since my early childhood. Use of my Holy Symbols by extremist entities is unfortunate and beyond my control. That doesn't stop me from using my Holy Symbols publicly or personally. Small minds are always offended by things they don't understand.

[@cedaremberr]

So people who get upset at seeing the swastika all have small minds?

[@Corinnecy]

I love that you mentioned Jackson Crawford in the end because I was thinking about him a lot when you mentioned how people can take the information or art that you create and manipulate it to their own narratives. I bet he also has to weed out a lot of secret white supremacists from his channel and websites as you do. Thank you so much for sharing all your information, always. It is empowering and inspiring!

[@AndreeaCe]

Geeeez, thanks.

[@Maximustheslayer123]

I'm stealing "playstation-addled fish brains."

[@bregaski5843]

Makes me very sad and angry that it's happening.

[@alexday1191]

We are constantly kicking racist out of our groups and off of our pages. It is a constant scourge. Our organization attracts them because of the exact things you mention here. We call those people Brosatru. They think that we are the religion of some pure Viking race. Lol, like a group of people who traveled and traded widely would be pure of anything.

[@Petercakes]

There's specific [american] categories of everyone and his dogs...lol!!! Made me laugh

[@heikep4906]

great video. Thank you so much

[@ŽỌỌŽṢ̌Z]

Such a great video. Very insightful thanks Rune

[@chrisd1]

Thank you for this!

[@stonewall3745]

Is loving your culture and people white supremacy?

[@NordicAnimism]

No, that is identitarianism, (which often results in bigotry)

[@yulfaweisulf4588]

Why should we feel guilty for displaying ancient symbolism which represent our ancient Nordic Tribal spirituality? I'll give you an example here. Even though the cross was used and is still used by modern Christian hate groups like the KKK to symbolize burning someone on, which by the way they did ... the non hating Christians don't feel guilty for the cross. Neither are they pushed to feel guilty for its past abuse and misuse, and even the current continued abuse and misuse of it. Why are "some" people constantly attacking Nordic spirituality? I for one will not cave into that hypocritical and hateful mind set. I hail our Gods, I honor our ancestors, and I wear my Mjolnr with pride, and will always do so. Christians guilted our ancestors for worshipping our Gods and for not wearing their cross and look how it almost completely destroyed our ethnic spiritual beliefs, which are the basis for an entire culture. That attempt at destroying us continues, but it will fail. What would Thor do? Also, the Fylfot circles our Northern Hemisphere right above our heads. It is represented in the Big Dipper. As it rotates around the North Star, it creates the Fylfot. I know in my heart, that's the reason why so many cultures used it. It is a universal sigil right above our heads, visible to many cultures now, and indeed in our past. It has always been there, even before man was here to acknowledge it. FACT CHECKED TRUE. It has been a part of our culture since we could look up at the sky, and indeed, apparently for many cultures...... Swirling eternally. It represents the energy of "creation" eternal. No evil content and not one bit. I for one, will never allow some evil upon this planet to condemn something so magnificent. I will never allow someone to have so much power of cultural destruction within a short 20 years or so of existence of misrepresentation and perpetration, to destroy thousands, and I do mean ... "THOUSANDS" .... of years of cultural and spiritual recognition. On the same note, I will neither allow anyone to use someone's attempt at misappropriation to destroy the basic and original symbolism of our ancestral sprituality and of our Gods. I've even heard some circles wanting to throw away the Othila Rune. ... "Odins Rune". What??? That is the mentality that caved into Christianization. This time, it will not work. Not again. Sincerely, Gythi Yulfa Wiesulf, Freya's Dottir.

[@ProWalter2]

I think it has more to do with the Swastika and the Black Sun. Since one was appropriated and used as the flagship symbol for the regime that sought to eliminate all Jewish people, and the other was created by an SS officer to push Aryanism and ethnic cleansing of all non white, non-german people. Those 2 symbols are beyond reclaiming.

[@sarahgilbert8036]

Excellent!! Jeg lo godt enkelte ganger. Takk

[@magnusarvid4161]

Great video! Unfortunate that you're telling all the people who would learn most from this that "they're not invited". I get the sentiment but I think if we're really trying to "take back" Nordic heritage I don't know that freezing out people who like it and have been hijacked into political ideology because of it will change if they don't feel welcome to. Cheers to Scandinavia and liberal democracy!

[@NordicAnimism]

Valid point! but my experience is 1) that internet fights are an incredbile waste of everybody's time. And 2) that the majority of those I am not inviting are outside the reach of common sense anyway.

[@magnusarvid4161]

@@NordicAnimism And I'm sure that you're unfortunate enough to have had more than a few run-ins with people who would qualify as 'out of reach'! ;-) At least I can imagine the people and the motivations/intentions you would want to uninvite, of course. Nevertheless always a pleasure to see some well-informed bashing of Vikings, both the concept and the series! ;-)

[@TheCossak]

very well said :)

[@atlanticdragon4773]

Great video. Have watched it 3 times to take it in since it was published. One note, I've seen alternative arguments about the othala rune with inflected ends that it's not a Nazi invention and does appear in the archeological record as a variation of the rune. But yes, they used it, sadly. Some esoteric heathens now interpret it as a mother earth symbol connected to Nerthus.

[@The1Green4Man]

Germanic paganism is about honouring your ancestors, if you are of Germanic descent that means rejecting the pervasive culture of anti-whiteness and honouring your white ancestors. The best way to ensure that you honour them is by continuing their ancestral line. You belong to a people, your people is defined by your ancestors because they make up the generations of your people that came before. To discontinue that great family line is to dishonour your ancestors. Do you think your ancestors survived all these thousands of years only for you to not have children? No, they would want you to go on, for it is within you that they find immortality. The only way to secure the existence of a people is to have a homeland of your own. That sentiment does not come from a place of hate, it comes from a place of love for ones own. It is the most natural thing in the world and you are being untrue to yourself and your ancestors my opposing this. Germanic paganism is our indigenous belief system, it is tied to our people and our lands. That’s why the so called “far-right” has adopted Germanic paganism, because it is completely in line with their world view. There is a world of difference between white-supremacy and nationalism. Supremacy states that you believe your people is better than all others and deserves to dominate the “lower-races”. Nationalism or ethno-pluralism states that all people in the world deserve a homeland to call their own so they can continue on into the future. It’s about the human right of self determination that extends to all people, including our own.

[@NordicAnimism]

There is a difference, but there is not a world of difference! - whiteness is a nationalist category a perveted sick ideology which rapes the very idea of ancestry. For instance! - are my race mixed children not legitimate descendants of those og their ancestors that this contemporary ideology would project whiteness on? If the answer to that question is "No" then you position is just hateful retrograde fascism

[@martinvyslouzil2163]

Thats pretty cringe.

[@freyast2213]

@nordicanimisn I’m a pagan who’s more right leaning & for me your mixed race children would be included, they’re also European & if they want to connect with their heritage then that ought to be celebrated. I know some ppl feel differently, about this. I think most, if you actually had a conversation irl, not on the internet, They’d agree. I’m not really sure what he means by “cringe” that seems to have become a catch all phrase for ppl online when they don’t want to communicate like an adult. Unless somethings legitimately cringe. Lol

[@jeshidono]

So why do yall call it far right when their politics where different back then, a blend of right nationalism and left socialism

[@Bakgårdsfunk]

👏

[@TheFinnmacool]

Please do a video on left-extremism. Just for balance.

[@NordicAnimism]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4eWnWavr8eGhKs

[@ZeroGravityFuneral]

Is that a book of saint Cyprian in the back on the shelf 😏?

[@NordicAnimism]

Oh no! Dabbling on dark arts MOI!??!😮😮

[@Cynthia.B]

Thank you so much for speaking out against racism. I am in the U.S., and I never saw the Thor's hammer flag being carried by the extremist/white supremicist group before. That's too bad. I was wondering if you have concerns about the Raven symbol you created being misused in any way, and if so, how do you protect it from being misunderstood or misinterpreted? / Cute childhood picture, by the way! And I had to laugh about the guy's joy at finding out he's just over a tenth of a % "Viking"! Ha-ha!!

[@ramblingrootscamp]

Thanks you do much for this video, people really need to hear this

[@keppmanson9970]

If you need help with moderating nazi comments I am a student who would love to help!

[@marykayryan7891]

It seems the bad guys almost always have to steal their symbols. The first time the phrase "the right to life" was used, it was by a bunch of feminists in the U.S. marching against the Viet Nam War under a banner that declared the Vietnamese "right to life. Well, we see where that went. I'm not even of Nordic heritage, but I have always loved the Norse myths and it was just making me so mad that these stinking Nazi's took and are still trying to take all your symbols. But this is the thing about myth. It can be interpreted in so many ways. Mary Magdalen started out as Jesus's favorite disciple and ended up the whore of Babylon and is now being "resurrected" again as an important early Christian. This is why your work is so important. You have to keep on reexamining this Nordic heritage and reinterpreting it in a life affirming, humanitarian and Earth loving way.

[@albertcook]

When is the video dropping of Far-Left extrememism and Nordic symbolism???? What about Racism Against whites???? are you going to do a video about that??? Or is that racism ok?

[@martinvyslouzil2163]

Whataboutism. Far left doesnt use Nordic symbols, or i havent seen anyone. Racism against whites almost doesnt exist in the west. Maybe South Africa but that country is a shithole. Plus whites are the dominant group that have all the money and political power.