Not Playing Yu-Gi-Oh! 3 ofs is SCIENTIFICALLY WRONG!

[@OvenfreshDeth]

When you’re so triggered you have to hold a seminar on why you’re triggered

[@BunjiBee]

This is my favorite video

[@OvenfreshDeth]

Kindred Tether His videos as of late have been extremely entertaining. Between these kinds of vids and Table 500, Farfa has easily become one of my favorite Yugitubers.

[@purinsuki7966]

i thought you had a farfa profile picture

[@rank10ygo]

Im sorry i dont speak algebra

[@dahakaguardianofthetimelin4780]

I ended up on this video because I was following you, you False Prophet! Look at what you just made watch and repent!

[@coryn7031]

Somebody doesn’t believe in the power of he heart of the cards. Always build with forty one ofs.

[@ndep93]

THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE!

[@sonic21blast88]

Oh trinity formay

[@admontblanc]

Not a big hindrance if it's a chaos yata deck, most of the cards are 1 ofs anyway.

[@A11sopp]

Kaiba lost to Yugi because he chickened out of this strategy and played multiple Blue-Eyes.

[@tecul1]

play traditional format xd

[@winter945]

The person who made the deck got obedience schooled

[@chogdog3660]

That’s why I play 3 garnets in gem knights

[@shion126]

GEM-KNIGHT PHANTOM QUARTZ that one actually makes sense since while you don't ever want to draw him, if you do your egnine thus 4 cards in your deck is a nübunch of dogshit worth for that duell, however some decks cannot aford to play 3 even just because losing a hand soace because of a garnet makes the turn a lot worse.

[@amiteea]

Shadow Sniper that was the joke

[@UshiUshiKakuThe2nd]

>"bricks at 3" >plays 3 ayers rock, which can brick just as bad, if not worse

[@narfd.8837]

AND is just a one for one trade that needs setup (a beast in the GY) and does not give you an instant rank 2 + 1 one additional monster xD. A general rule for most decks: Starters > Extenders

[@tecul1]

played 3 strike and 3 twin twister, clearly this person has no idea how to deck build

[@Dylligraphy]

AMANO AMANO

[@minicooper1293]

I want to brick sometimes but not all the time.

[@MaxLoafin]

minicooper if u see it, it's a brick, but if u don't see it, it's also a brick

[@tecul1]

CreagDog2 😂

[@mrevilducky]

@@MaxLoafin deadass there are cards like that

[@Anthony_Cantos]

He's went Neg 9 in consistency

[@kingv-raptor840]

So pot of desires?

[@MrSupahnin10doh]

farfa attempts to prove with science and math why playing not 3 offs are bad when he cant even add 3 and 6 together.

[@CReaToRxPR]

He knows statistics and not basic math? Could see it happening. But I'm pretty sure he was doing the math off calc for people that legit don't know basic math...

[@KozmicHand]

This needs to be shown to the ygopro Percy discord. The deck building and deck lists that ppl share on there are horrendous and flat out *U G L Y*

[@ohhtags6565]

They think chaos max is shit and shouldnt be played. Now I'm left with a deck build for bewd from 2007....

[@shadowd63]

Chaos max IS shit and shouldn't be played.

[@ohhtags6565]

shadowd63 how is it bad?

[@shadowd63]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6TZZZt8rL5qrNU watch this and never talk to me again.

[@ohhtags6565]

shadowd63 well you don't have to be dick about it and the only drawback is inconsistency.

[@ofwgkta3881]

So I should play 3 twin twisters and 1 raigeki in my deck instead of 2 twin twisters?

[@frankzalar5708]

yes, if you're playing a go 2nd deck.

[@Farfa]

I fucking hate you

[@simosgaming]

Hey Farfa. Should I play 1 Dark Hole or 1 Lightning Vortex and 3 Cosmic Cyclone or 3 Mystical Space Typhoon in my MLG Blue-Eyes with Chaos Max deck? 🤔

[@SebTsch]

Why not run 3 Twin Twisters AND 1 Raigeki.

[@b13brink]

not even trolling honest question but i assume the reason you wouldnt play 3 twin twisters even in a going second deck is because due to combo plays over taking most of the meta which therefore means people taking out traps from their decks you wouldnt want to see it that often. But on that account could it also be said that people should only being using 1 twin twister if discarding doesnt help their deck in someway? Like i said honest question no trolls this video really has me questioning a lot of shit I'm a strong believer in the maths.

[@Sombres]

"why should I trust the 6+3 = 8 guy" lol

[@Vinicius-Bigode]

Farfa: This is mathematical proof that you need to play your power cards like Desires at 3, have I convinced you? Guy in chat: Convince me to play Desires.

[@star_carambola]

You teach probability better in 10 minutes than my Algebra II teacher did in 2 months during my sophomore year.

[@TheoJay615]

Turning into Gordon Ramsey. Needed.

[@iothefrog]

Kayenng Thao since when was gorden ramsey a mathematician

[@victorsandeen2694]

@@iothefrog Cooking requires specific measurements.

[@vanityra5145]

Farfa in April 2018: MATHEMATICALLY Farfa, a year later: JOKINGLY

[@trikovi1628]

Farfa teaching idiots like me how to play since 2018

[@HyperKnuckles01]

Subscribing increases the chances of seeing a quality video like this by 33%

[@b.crozer]

Ok, I know that this video is 3 years old, but I want to give an example with a deck I am playing recently. The deck is Sunvine/Sunavalon. The deck only needs to open 1 copy of Genius Loci to go off. That is why you need to see it as often as possible in your hand. That is why my deck plays in total of 19 cards to start of with Genius Loci (if you wonder it's Genius Loci, Rescue Rabbit, Unexpected Dai, Painful Desicion, Lonfire Blossom, One for one and Draconet). The chances going 1st and open atleast one of those cards is 96% = Combo is enabled. Of course some of you think now, what about the other copies in your hand, they are now useless. It doesn't matter, as long you don't draw other bricks, your Combo is more important. And if you are smart, you can play cards to use them as resourcess, cards like Forbidden Droplet, Dark World Dealings etc. I wanted to make this comment for players who doesn't know how some cards in their deck are just that important. That is why we see cards in the banlist, where the purpose is to search another card, such as ROTA or Salamangreat Circle. Don't get scared of bricking, you want to see always your best cards. I am already sorry for my language, english isn't my nativ language.

[@ChronosLawliet123]

So, should i run 3 beaver warriors?

[@asentiusnaroliea692]

ChronosLawliet123 Nahh, only non-searchable engine cards. I would run only 2 one resecue rabbit, 3 unexpacted dai and 3 tenki

[@ohhtags6565]

ChronosLawliet123 yes.

[@skyflash137]

ChronosLawliet123 run 4 just to be safe

[@julianadams3710]

Well you need beaver to win so obviously play three

[@bujinnova3911]

Run 2 because it bricks at 3 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻 cloe logic

[@fidibus4290]

Hey farfa why should you play 3 offs if you can just stack your hand?

[@tonyrigorous]

“But synchro summoning is hard”

[@toadsagejacob7896]

Tony R. This made my night

[@ryansaw4589]

Because it bricks at 3

[@ouja8502]

Ryan Saw You weren’t listening were you?

[@ryansaw4589]

Think of it. If u play bujin, you don't want to see 3 Yamato. You only want to see 1. Therefore, play 1 Yamato. Dumbass

[@ryansaw4589]

I'm going to assume none of you actually watched this. 1 of what you want to see = good. 3 of what you want to see = brick. Good Lord. But to be fair, you need a high IQ to understand Farfa.

[@ouja8502]

Ryan Saw Which why you don’t understand him at all, dumbass.

[@violin15895]

Ryan Saw yeah and you don’t have a high iq because you clearly didn’t understand the video

[@hrocxvid]

Can we get the scientific breakdown of 2 twin twisters 1 raigeki?

[@tsundre]

I play 2 so it had less chance to be hit on the banlist

[@FGj-xj7rd]

Yeah, teach these plebs.

[@fernandodealmeidaraasch9032]

I didnt give your videos a 3rd "like" 'cause your channel may brick if i do.

[@LazyLee]

if you scientifically see it that's fine, if you don't scientifically see it, that's also fine

[@ColCoal]

"It is never viable to play a card at 2." >looks at semi-limited list

[@quelqunx7470]

This is 2 years ago so hopefully you've figured it out by now, but.... Since running a card at 2 is wrong, forcing a deck to run 2ofs makes the deck worse, as intended. Hence, the semi limit list is indeed serving its intended purpose.

[@sho3003]

@@quelqunx7470 yeah but it doesn't do it that effectively, that's why there aren't that much semi-limited cards, as far as I remember the only semi-limited main deck card is malicious and that is semi-limited just to control its effect

[@michaelwesten1351]

didn't monarchs run 3 of everything and they bricked still

[@narfd.8837]

Same as Blue-Eyes. If you play 6-12 cards that have the potential to brick, you will brick quite a bit. Still, those cards are the ones that win you the game in both these decks.

[@chrisburns9898]

This is such a coincidence, I was just arguing with some dude recently about his deckbuilding. He was playing a 60 combo deck, with like at least 15 one ofs and effectively garnets, and I was telling him how the number of one ofs along with the total card count just results in more bricks. HIS arguments where that he has more combo potential. Because he ran ddd and spyral in the same deck with a genex undyne engine and running 2 fucking controllers, has more combo potential. I can’t even remember the rest of his deck, but it was fucking incomprehensible.

[@luminous3558]

So the questionable synergy of DDDs and Spyrals aside, what water are we sending off undine ???????????????

[@MaxLoafin]

TheflamingWol f the other undine of course

[@chrisburns9898]

TheflamingWol f I don’t remember the entire decklist, so he might have been running something else, but his deck had like 10 normals besides that, and his logic was that it allowed him to perform ‘several combos instead of just one’ in which I proceeded to laugh

[@numimio]

The Duel Logs: "The best way to deck build is taking all your best cards and putting three of them into your deck, until you have 40 cards."

[@shaheer0102]

Discovering this channel was the best that has ever happened to me

[@GaminSnake]

1:00 fucking love the guy who replied with “no I’m blind”

[@drstein1294]

To be honest its really good and reassuring to see you serious once in a while on youtube videos . Also that chat is so wild xd . Nicely schooled .

[@Ray-Zide]

This is why I play 3 Garnet and 1 Brilliant Fusion so I can almost always use the brilliant without bricking

[@FliceTrance]

Literally one of my favourite videos on the internet. Good job!

[@Luccario8]

I for one am glad to finally get the math explained

[@CristinaL]

So aria at 3? I mean, maths can work in the theory, but as we're shuffling with a pattern, the scientific method doesn't work as well in physic than online. That's what I thought. Maybe I was wrong, and me opening the only cbtg I can run in all of my fucking hands towards the only fucking mizuchi I have & the dragon of the buster blader is just bad luck.

[@Caolboy]

Thanks Nadir, really informative. Was trying to figure out the maths on improving my chances of drawing one of the best non-searchable cards of the 5Ds era, Black Whirlwind. Blackwings don't really pop-off without it but using a calculator really helps cause I've always sucked at math XD

[@inciaradible7144]

Theory is good on the surface, but does ignore card interactions and only looks at the opening hand. This is fine in theory, but it does mean that you need to keep in mind what deck you're playing and what card you're discussing. Obedience Schooled is a non-searchable card that the deck needs to see in order to play, so it's a 3-of. Scapegoat is a non-searchable card that some decks need to see in order to make plays that do something so it's a 3-of in those decks, but other decks are perfectly fine not seeing Scapegoat at all, but still play the card because it does open up plays, so you play it as a 1-of, because you gain power without sacrificing consistency.

[@FlareSherbetNatsu]

GrandmistressD 2 ofs are the cards you wanna see sometimes but not all the time

[@alienz1814]

So, you dedicated at least 3 spots in your extra deck to make that scapegoat into a saryuja and its fine if you see 10% of the times while 90% of games you will play without 3 cards in your extra deck?

[@BorkBigFrighten2]

Scapegoat is a little bit different because it openly conflicts with a large amount of cards in the game, as opposed to unsearchable cards like Double Summon in Spyrals which never conflicts with anything you can draw.

[@MiguelitoJimz]

If you play scapegoat to make Saryuja or Borreload, then you play it at 3 because you're already sacrificing extra deck space, so playing at one is dumb because that 4 cards in your extra deck will be just there making space in most of your duels. If your deck doesn't rely on scapegoat and you're not playing it for the saryuja/borreload, so go ahead and play it at 1 or 2.

[@tecul1]

do you want to open scapegoat or not

[@Red-ij1ht]

Damn this was so convincing, i just go and pump up all my desires in the decks to 3

[@frankzalar5708]

Cards with a hard once per turn that aren't power cards and just add consistency ie painful decision and ect i feel like are okay at 2.

[@deruneldembal5048]

Frank Zalar Yeah, I think that's ok, but yes power cards should be played at three. I was testing and deciding on playing 3 desires vs 2 but now i am finally convinced to play 3 even tho I drew 3 desires like 2 or 3 times at the first regional were I playes 3 out of seven rounds of swiss. I also drew 2 sometimes. I will still play 3.

[@Farfa]

Yeah there's a little more room for debate with low impact cards like that.

[@deruneldembal5048]

Farfa especially when they are a blank, because they are fucking once per turn lol

[@MiguelitoJimz]

basically, power cards that can turn the duel on your favor should be played at 3...facts

[@MiguelitoJimz]

power cards that require setup or are powerful on mid or late duel...2 is fine

[@marshadow13]

You should do this kind of video more, it's informative and entertaining/funny at the same time, this is what I subbed for

[@SPONGCHAO]

Actually thank you for this. I can show this to some people I know that have been on the fence about this for ages lol

[@ogeid772]

I used to run Desires at 2, but it was because the deck i played it in (Magicians) would search so much after resolving 1 Desires, that more often than not, i would have less than 12 cards left in deck by turn 3, so having 3 Desires meant every other copy of it would be basically dead, and running 3 also made it easier to draw Desires out of Desires, but running 2, all those risks were lower, but i stopped running it at 2, and simply cut it altogether, as even without Joker, Magicians can still search pretty much whatever card they need at roughly any given time, so drawing extra cards was kinda "win-more" in a way

[@Klycix]

"But what if you have Upstart?" You would have to calculate the odds of drawing the Upstart and then the odds of seeing the card you need off of Upstart. *facepalm*

[@gojocatoru27]

Tbf i also cut down 1 obedience schooled because it ends up being dead quite easily It's not that you brick by opening 2, rather you brick because you draw it when you don't have any targets left after using it once However I appreciate the insight and I'll be adjusting my deck building mindset

[@AidenDesJames]

"I hate, all of you, I hate every single one of you" 😂

[@drinkwater9495]

2 years later and this video is still super relevant

[@AeonAxisProductions]

Hypergeometric distribution is the reason that zoo was such a problem

[@nahtatrolI]

still keep this video bookmarked for when someone inevitably says something along the lines of "bricks at 3"

[@Hatzmanialand]

Farfa is the simon cowell of yugitubing

[@kindlingking]

Farfa in 2023: joel, trolldespair Farfa in 2018: *casually destroys people with maths and logic*

[@jacobmonks3722]

As an engineering student, my favorite comment was "-3 dB is a gain."

[@dcdubzgaming3846]

this video actually made me see deck building in a whole new light. well done farfa

[@jonathanly5920]

This reminds me of that video of a man showing children the shocking (and a bit disgusting) way that chicken nuggets are made. Then afterwards he asked them who would still eat chicken nuggets. And all the children raised their hands. The look on his face ha.

[@nathanwilliams8481]

Jonathan Ly Payia That was Jamie Oliver

[@chunkynorris100]

How can my deck building skills be so trash if I know how to calculate the probabilities the hyper geometric calculator does but with MULTIPLE SUCCESSES

[@NK10Totti]

This video changed my life

[@kiren3168]

I resolved desires drew 2 more desires. Thanks Farfa

[@Klycix]

I really like this video. Because I started building decks with so few two of's. (I play Upstart in every deck, so there is usually a two of.)

[@cookiecutter6735]

What I fail to understand is the side deck

[@turtle-bot3049]

the reason I play desires at 2 instead of 3 in a 40 card deck (I run it at 3 in a 45 or more card deck) is due to multiple factors not just because multiple copies brick. its these added factors of: decking out, drawing into another desires (or 2) and the factor of opening multiples. its all those multiple 2, 3, 4% reduction to consistency that adds up and cancels out the flat gain of 10% from running the 3rd card. But this is more due to desires uniqueness as a card itself, being that it takes 10 to 12 cards out of your deck. The simple math here is 12 times 3 is 36, then add the 5 opening cards in your hand and you get 41 cards total. Therefore you cannot physically resolve 3 copies of desires in a 40 card deck, even without any other searching or deck thinning at all. besides the above points, most decks that run desires have enough search power already that desires is not a needed power card but more an extender power card to add to plays after the initial play has been done (e.g. draw into a strike or some other back row to add to the already established board rather than needed to make the initial board) All this being said, I do agree that any non searchable power card that is needed to make the deck work (not just extend plays but actually make the initial plays, like brilliant fusion) should be ran at 3

[@unicorngod423_4]

This actually did change the way I think about deck building I’ve 100% played a card that I want to have in my hand at 2 bc it “bricks” at 3. But there are times where I think it’s alright to play cards at two sometimes there are cards that can be Helpful so it boosts you if you see it but you don’t need to see it it isn’t a card that is part of your win condition cards like those I think could sometimes be played at 2

[@hall0whall0w59]

Wow who would think that farfa could make a compelling arguement still putting desires at 2

[@lightdoll4278]

I use to run two desires cause that’s what everyone else did. Thanks for making me go back to three.

[@zombiemanjosh]

I like to use these guidelines: If you NEED to see it in your opening hand run 3, if you WANT to see it in your opening hand or as soon as possible run 2, if you want to see it at some point but don't care of you do then run 1.

[@tecul1]

if you want to see a card opened and you can't search it you run 3

[@averagebaenjoyer8534]

The Numbers don't lie and they give me 3 Desires in my start hand XD

[@NightWrencher]

Easily one of your best videos ever

[@bensonsteven82]

"Let me draw you a fucking graph!" 😂😂😂

[@benjaminstaniforth1277]

3:48 Some 2 ofs make sense, such as thunder dragonroar in thunder dragons. This is bcs the eff in hand isn’t that great but the eff when banished or sent from field to graveyard is very good

[@Marqrk]

With cards like that it's usually a three or none. If you have the space for it and it doesn't clash with your win condition, you play three. There's really no reason not to. It's like desires: if you don't need to worry about one of your core cards being limited or having all three copies of something available at all times, then you don't have any reason not to run it at three.

[@aghostwiener]

This is probably the best video in yugi tubing history since micki vlogz

[@SGashesNetwork]

Obedience School is searchable off Left Arm so it doesn't fall under this category Farfa

[@anonymmc2764]

When you hold a seminar on statistics, but you still can't do 40-28 LUL

[@cryosen]

What if you don't really want to draw the card but want to search it more than once?

[@crimsonalpha4578]

Hey forreal this was helpful, that hypergeometric shit is something i never new about

[@tecul1]

all the yugitubers i know of had a craze about it approx this time last year to figure out zoo deck lists

[@ricnewhouse4709]

Besäuseln this is a "mathematically correct" video, I need to correct farfa at 3:00 The probability of opening up exactly 1 3of is 30.11% (Hypergeometric Probability). The probability of opening up 1, 2 or 3 of a 3of is 33.7% ( which he marked). "Cumulative" means " the added up probabilities from exactly k copies to exactly x copies. Apart from that: Great video! Your completly right.

[@ricnewhouse4709]

*Because

[@ricnewhouse4709]

Same mistake at 7:40 again but now the discrepancy is about 5% (its actually only 35%)

[@Meloncarty]

I actually discussed this with someone on DL. He kept saying a 25 card deck would be more applicable than a 20.

[@vvvprince9487]

Desires is still a 2 of because the math supports it you’d rather banish the second desires than open it more the chances of vanishing all 3 are very low then the chances of drawing into another one is pretty high and you don’t want to draw another nor activate another

[@JoseTabuu]

Dude I came so hard when I saw the hypergeometric calculator. I never make a deck without checking with all my searchers and copies of a card the chances i have to draw them. And the chances to draw my garnets lol.

[@joshuajohnson8464]

When the first one gets negated by ashe blossom, 3% to have a second.

[@julianluk3489]

I actually ran terraforming and instant fusion at one ofs before they got yeeted to limited, because I wanted to be ready for the banlist.

[@j.s.h7046]

I was playing desires at 3 and always drew 2 desires or a desires off desires and then i started playing desires at 2 i never saw it again and when i saw it i drew another desires off desires

[@Mauricekaip]

I played 2 desires. Then I bought my third desires.

[@thiccupcake]

And then you drew 2 desires off 1 desires.

[@oramakorel1083]

Outside: I get it Inside: I don't get it

[@insertnamehere3171]

Technically the math is a Bit of, since He used the Chance for opening 1 or more for opening one, but its still a good lesson in deckbuilding

[@jesseberry4766]

What's the math of drawing garnet in three games and brilliant/garnet in two of those games in a row... asking for a friend...

[@ExtoGameplay]

3% per 3 of the same cards, so if u got a bunch of 3 ofs the chance of u getting 2 of the same cards is pretty high

[@DuncanHarbison]

The thing of cards filling the same role comes into this as well I think? So if I have 36 definite cards in my deck and my remaining 4 cards are 2 anti spell 2 mistake, they're filling the same role and so I should play 3 of whichever one is better, but if my remaining cards have to cover 2 different roles then maybe I'd have to play 2/2 and accept that there is a drop in consistency. It could be argued that there should be 3/1 there too and just side the extra copies of the card which is getting played at 1 for the appropriate matchup but at that point it becomes specific to each format/meta. Obviously that raccoon list was just wrong lol, but I think just applying 3 or 0 automatically to everything can occasionally not work.

[@tecul1]

you would play the better one at 3, no?

[@michaelwesten1351]

farfa keep in mind that the shuffling in duelingbook isn't perfectly random which is worse than real life deck shuffling, which only varies less than RnG shuffling.

[@Farfa]

This sounds like a made up furry agenda conspiracy theory.

[@murphmuffin9069]

Only reason you play anything at 2 is if it is something you DON'T want to open 2 of ever such as something that you can summon from the deck, at 1, if you draw into it, the card that brings it out is dead, so by running 2, you can guarantee that at least 1 will be in the deck still, and we just saw first hand that seeing 2 of a card at 2 is only 2% I call this the Shadow Mist rule.

[@igotveemon]

Ironically, it really is the Increase rule now.

[@OsvaldoChannel1]

MTG Players: "that is bullshit, because when i play 22 lands i always draw 8 in the first 12 while if i play 25 i draw 4 in the first 15"

[@kingofd.390]

Well as entertaining and educational it was to watch this, it sure has some logical issues. First of: the percentage might tell some things, but it does not tell anything about the way people experience the game. For example: your "3 of" has a 2% chance of being 2 in the starting hand. This means it could happen in 2 of 100 games. Or 20 in 1000. Also some might experience it 200 times because 200 is still 2% of 10000. This is also the truth about the facts you presented in this video. I agree with you that the "best card" should be played as much as possible. But if you want your consistency to rise above the 50% mark, you should consider not to rely on 1 of 3 cards, but rather that you have more options to start, rather than depending on 1 of 3.

[@baileydombroskie3046]

Everytime i come up with a new deck idea, i always start off by putting max copies of all the cards it and then i always end up with a 60+ card deck and then u have to choose a figure out which cards r more important. Its been forever sence i cud make even 1 40 card deck that has any 3ofs.

[@ParadoxNerdHLM]

So this is what the blebs meant by "Desires is a -9"

[@tacetjackalmighty]

Serious question: what is the chance of drawing desires off of desires in a 40 card deck?

[@Farfa]

www.reddit.com/r/yugioh/comments/4uinep/ygostats_pot_of_desires_the_hard_cold_math/

[@LoneSkag]

Huh… guess I should’ve played the lottery that one day I opened 3 necrovalley.

[@bluebladex3]

I fucking love Farfa. This man would be an amazing prof. He explains shit so well especially when triggered. EDIT: WHY THE FUCK HE ONLY GOT 26K subs?! Everyone get your finger off it's ass and hit that sub button.

[@AnimatedCarl]

The maths has convinced me otherwise. 3 ofs or no.