The ITX Case Everyone* Wants

[@cratts]

00:05:50 "Now there's a bit of custom work happening here" is one of the biggest understatements ever, having seen your previous videos on it... 😂

[@cactuscat8009]

he made the best and most detailed build with all the mods i have seen since years

[@awepizza]

Yeah its HEAVILY modded with precision 3d printed parts specifically for that scenario. Kinda unfair comparison. Should have used the both cases with the exact same setup\pieces to compare temps and performance oise.

[@alabaska182]

@@awepizzaDoesn’t matter, T1 in its stock form is far superior to this scuffed fractal copy, I mean the fractal doesn’t even accept 240mm radiators, that’s pretty bad.

[@VTJasmine69]

@@cactuscat8009comment back to me later, there's someone on par that even optimum took inspiration from

[@johpur]

@@awepizza this is what he does

[@xs3tsunax]

reason why nobody mention the T1 cuz its barely exist just like any other small run high price ITX cases that pretty much gone after the first run. this is why people are excited when known manufactured jumping into the scene cuz you can actually buy the bloody thing

[@Alex814Bae]

Bingo

[@Lysol_kb]

100% this. As much as i love the T1, it has almost no presence in the mainstream PC case industry today with practically all of its target audience being in the niche sffpc community.

[@castform57]

Specialty cases have so few manufacturers either way. If you look at server chassis availability for some reason, you got like silverstone, in-win, and inter-tech as the ones with most models, because nobody else makes rack mount chassis for non-enterprise users.

[@RanenPo]

You can buy the T1 V2 pretty easily lol what are you talking about. And the Terra is pretty damn expensive for how limited your cooling options are. The Terra is basically an enlarged Dan A4-SFX with the same cooling limitations (except with the Dan A4 V2 onwards you can do 120mm AIO with losercard mod, but no chance of that happening with the Terra).

[@xs3tsunax]

@@RanenPo give me the link to buy one right now. No waiting, no preorder just buy now

[@tdcomer]

The reason why your Blackridge didn’t fit the mb with just the AM5 short backplate is because there are two AM5 socket retention designs Asus seems to be using on their B650E-I mbs. Yours has extra material around the edges which blocks the black ridge brackets. The other socket style works perfectly with the Blackridge and AM5 short backplate - no need to remove the entire socket retention mechanism and only the M.2 heat sink needs to be removed

[@elchet]

I ran into this problem on my B650E-I too, I gave up and returned the Black Ridge and bought an IS-47-XT which doesn't require any alteration to the board.

[@stijn7076]

@@elchet Did your IS-47-XT fit without having to remove the M.2 heatsink?

[@EdinaLantos]

A calm, real-life true professional, who cares about details and not the show. It is soooo good to see that such people still exist! Thank you and please don't change! :)

[@IcePhoenixOfTime]

Kinda feel sad for the t1 makers not getting mentioned at all for all their innovation and totally ripped off

[@terencelim3860]

So many mainstream youtuber even LTT didnt mention it at all. I don’t get it. Do they all not know about it at all?

[@GoonyMclinux]

​@@terencelim3860the knockoff company probably pays better.

[@PrivacyEnt]

@@terencelim3860 ltt does limited research on their videos most of the time unfortunately

[@KG_BM]

Paid to omit the mention

[@timoflo369]

​@@terencelim3860he does mention the t1 at the beginning and even says that others dont mention the t1 case or am i missing something?

[@brandonribeirobr]

Feels like it's been so long since you've reviewed an itx case. That's the content that drew me to you in the first place and I love to see it.

[@overeactive36]

the lighting in this video is immaculate

[@speeddemon4692]

fr and its all natural

[@t1995roger10]

You put exactly what I was thinking into words, it's a slightly worse t1, but it's also $100 cheaper... Very happy with my t1 and I can see this for someone who wants the t1 style build but doesn't want to pay the t1 premium and have the t1 wait times

[@novakk86]

50$

[@pokepokepoke64]

Slightly is crazy. Significantly worse imo

[@FrodoSwagginss]

Say t1 one more time

[@dhkatz_]

@@novakk86 *$100 if you want the latest version plus the nicer finer mesh side panels

[@TerranigmaQuintet]

@@dhkatz_ More than that even, if u live somewhere outside the US, as shipping to EU is a lot more expensive, gonna run well over 300 euro, while the Terra can be bought locally for 180 euro.

[@scottslayer2]

The case actually in stock and easily acquirable versus the case that is more expensive and is rarely in stock.

[@PavelShevchuk]

Price difference between T1 and Terra in europe is pretty intense due to import tax

[@RathOX]

They undervalue the T1 as its comes from China

[@Definitely_Melnyx]

@@RathOXDoesn’t mean shipping is ridiculous expensive unfortunately

[@RathOX]

@@Definitely_Melnyx its $35 for me. Which is cheap, im from UK, unless you live in the 3rd world its pretty good.

[@Ni1996Ki]

@@RathOXnot going to pay 35 + 205 for the case if i can have the fractal for 200 including shipping

[@stefanogiorgetti356]

35 bucks shipping for me, no custom fee also

[@bambooex]

No1 mentions the T1 bcos its hard af to get. I managed to get the terra 1 week after computex launch, here in singapore. Fractal's supply chain is just better. Not to mention its so much cheaper. My biggest issue with the case were that the stock sfx psu cables are just too long and uneasy to cable manage.

[@killerful]

Spot on review. I feel exactly the same about this case. From the adjustable spine not being original as some reviewers think, to the fact that the case is bigger than the T1, yet has worse compatibility (especially the 2 vs 1 fan, and the suffocating placement for that single fan). Case is good, but it needs work - there's a lot of potential here being thrown away.

[@Abubaker42]

Knew it and was waiting for it. It was a matter of time that the price gauging for itx cases was laid to rest thank you Fractal Design.

[@obscurito]

Unfortunately cases like the FormD T1 and Dan C4-SFX are not widely available like the Fractal is.

[@davidhuston495]

And the fractal is still hard to get.

[@wyntje83]

completely agree, if those the T1 and C4 could actually be bought somewhere at

[@bourbonlegend4071]

As much as i like the t1 the terra seems like my next sff case due to availability. Make sense no one talks about it if you can't get it.

[@t7274]

I've seen the t1 in stock more than I've seen it out of stock. It gets restocked every Sunday

[@Notorious544d]

@@t7274 But it's stupidly expensive, and that's before their ridiculous shipping rates

[@Chunpokomon]

@@Notorious544d One thing is availability, and another is accessibility

[@_TrueDesire_]

never heard of FormD before, not even available in Sweden, so for many builders the Terra is the only choice between those two.

[@horbeme]

i plan on buying the Terra for my wifes PC and i've seen plenty of builds for it and im familiar with the T1. the only thing i would say for either case is that i believe custom cables are a necessity. less bundling of the cables and can provide better airflow throughout the case.

[@chwhjjc8820]

T1 problem is when you wish to buy it - there is no units to sell. And what should you do? Wait for case from 3 to infinity moths? No I just buy something I can right now.

[@alekz0987]

I lug my PC around a lot and switched from an NCase M1 to a Terra instead of a T1 because of the jade color! I really hope this trend continues as purely utilitarian colors feel so drab. The pop of color and wooden accents are very appealing :) Though it does not officially support this, the spacing of the vents on the side panels allows for fan and radiator installation and I built a dual 240 loop into it using the single 120 fan mount as exhaust similar to a Corsair One. It certainly isn't as versatile as a T1 but it's a small price to pay for the better looks.

[@Neonagi]

That's really cool, 3D printed clips? Would like to see some pics or a short video as proof of concept for that. Would probably encourage people to experiment with the Terra, which I also find to be a fantastic SFF case.

[@vintage0x]

The shot at 9:19 made me shiver with excitement. This angle on the Terra is really attractive and pleasing, particularly with the Founders edition design behind the side panel.

[@bucolicberyllium2717]

Why? It looks worse than the T1.

[@ChrisStoneinator]

mate? shiver with excitement?

[@vintage0x]

@@ChrisStoneinator just being honest sir. sometimes the ~aesthetic~ is just that thrilling

[@pangtundure]

Idk what's with your videos but why do they look so clean 🥴 it's so satisfying to look at the video quality.

[@alucidrust]

High bitrate recording and really great colour grading will do that for you and of course the lighting, scenes.

[@bmwofboganville456]

He creates his videos on Mac that's why they look better. PC is for plebs, Mac is for Pros.

[@mauree1618]

@@bmwofboganville456 ???

[@bootchoo96]

@@bmwofboganville456 you smoking that nasty stuff bro hahahaha

[@williamhelena7592]

@@bmwofboganville456 who is gonna tell him lmao

[@thebambinofan]

The side gaps make sense as theyre needed for those lambo doors

[@KnightlySpartan]

Feels like it's been forever since we saw an ITX case review by you.

[@johnqua]

At minute 06:07 you say "but unfortunately that's not the case" - man how that pun came out perfectly

[@krazyfrog]

You are correct. It was quite surprising to me how none of the reviews for the Terra even acknowledge the existence of the Formd T1. Shows how little the mainstream case reviewers know about the ITX market. Also, you're the only reviewer I've seen who put the bottom fan as exhaust, which is the most ideal setup. For whatever reason, everyone else just sets it as intake, which makes no sense considering the Terra has plenty of intake with no exhaust.

[@MY-qi8wq]

For whatever reason, the manual for the Terra shows installing the fan as intake🤷

[@axel-11]

@@MY-qi8wq The reason is pretty obvious - air when heated naturally goes up, so instead of fighting natural flow (which goes from bottom to up) it's better to help that flow by intaking (cooler air) at the bottom

[@Keeki549]

Who cares, no one can even get that case.

[@nytalix642]

I like how you're playing with neutral colors, composition, lighting, and camera angles in this video

[@JustSomeGuy009]

Personally i want one because of the great green color and walnut wood. It looks amazing.

[@stevenwex8966]

Jonsbo V4, has an original layout, fits mATX board, ATX PSU, 120mm tower cooler, two 3.5 inch bay, and doesn't need instructions, it's just a cover with a lid. Cooling seams ok. i7=4790 and Evoke RX 5700XT with two Artic 80mm exhaust fans.

[@AquilaeYT]

jonsbo...XDDDD

[@n_INTJ_a]

Doesn't matter who copied who unless there's a patent. What matters is who perfects the mechanism. Terra is clearly a superior product, because it's available, no-hassle, and appeals to consumer. Just finished my terra build, couldn't be happier.

[@trevorflanagan4873]

This also comes from ideas in the Iquinix case too! Also Gamers Nexus did a test on this case I would greatly suggest seeing. Also a collab would be so sick!

[@VenomFT2000]

Looks pretty different actually, as far as rectancle boxes go.

[@angusleung2491]

That is the reason why I have been waiting to see you review the Tera first before watching others.

[@kharak6204]

what bothers me most is that it's pretty much an open case, lots of gaps and no filters.. at least it looks quite nice, wish there would be more cases with options for colours like that, the green and wood panel mix in particular is beautiful

[@changliu7346]

I mean do you really need any dust filters at this point, the panel pops of tool less and you can just blow of the the dust every now and then, it’s not very time consuming.

[@MikaelKKarlsson]

Filters are easy to incorporate and always helpful.

[@kharak6204]

@@MikaelKKarlssoni did think of that already, but how much space would it leave you with for the cpu cooler or gpu? and i mentioned the gaps because if you don't cover those up you might as well not bother adding filters. and idk if that would be practical with the mounting style of the side panels

[@CH1K3N99]

@@kharak6204 It's like we have come full circle. It's been so long people have dealt with computer dust, that they have forgotten just how dusty then can get after having filters for "forever".

[@fuzailmalik9280]

​@@CH1K3N99same people complain when their hardware starts to overheat. Take care of your stuff!

[@TTN0905]

I’ll stick to my Dan C4-SFX. Best case I’ve ever used.

[@chriswilson8493]

So cool. I've definitely been inspired to go smaller with my next build. I remember looking at some of the cases from Dan and where I'm at here in the states these bespoke SFF cases seem to always be sold out, makes sense that higher build quality means less production volume. Incredible cinematography and attention to detail as always.

[@MortalActual]

Cheeky lil DnB in the back really sells this to me. Love it

[@P8qzxnxfP85xZ2H3wDRV]

It was copied from the JM Customized Jimu D+. That was the first case to have the movable spine.

[@ffffrozen]

Damn! Good to know, never heard of JM Customised before. D+ and T1 look nearly identical.

[@peterbratu]

If you can't buy the T1, it doesn't exist.

[@em1tuning797]

I agree with this. It’s not like I am getting free samples from Form T1. In. The end, does it work and do its job.

[@ashraysinha409]

Exactly

[@davyd.3nk0]

Did you test the temps with the bottom fan as intake?

[@ChairmanMeow1]

Fractal is a great company, their customer service is so nice and helpful!

[@bepobepobepo]

With the T1 being unavailable almost all the time, I wonder if a mod to the case top panel could be done to allow for a radiator to be mounted 🤔

[@DrearyEagle]

Formd T1: Unobtainable Terra: Obtainable end of story :/

[@t7274]

They restock every Sunday. I've seen it in stock more than I have out of stock

[@RathOX]

You can buy the T1 easily

[@Zenbeau]

10:25 was this PC undervolted? I want to know if the temperatures actually look like this without undervolting it

[@Conformist55]

At this point I think the FormD T1 is peak sff. I own both v1 and v2 I’m still using the v1 and I don’t think I’ll ever use another case for my main build.

[@soljafon]

Pray that there will not be another motherboard standard this century,lol

[@JonAdamsTech]

Purely from an asthetic standpoint the Terra is just so much better looking. I'd definitely rather have it on my desk than the other case. Great video as always!

[@midfidelity7180]

if you get to see them up close then formd t1 is just another level of finish.

[@JonAdamsTech]

@@midfidelity7180 I’ll have to check it out!

[@johncalla2151]

Any dust problems running negative pressure like that? Especially with no filters?

[@domiblack2k182]

1:20 well, i think the Terra brings some own stuff and looks. So for me it’s not a copycat, but simply similar looking.

[@Jonobot]

babe wake up optimum tech posted

[@swizzler8053]

Is she awake?

[@adz4u28]

Innovation breeds competition.

[@XeonX__ASMR__METAL-experiments]

I have created my own caseS from Wood pieces. It's light and smaller than all of this "small" cases. ❤

[@danielmironov]

Actually there is 120mm AIO support for the Terra. You can check in the Manual for the Terra.

[@cassildaandcarcosa294]

at the cost of GPU space, if you add a 120 AIO you need a mini graphics card like the, Zotac GeForce GTX 1650 Super Twin Fan. which is great for 1080p gaming i guess.

[@danielmironov]

@@cassildaandcarcosa294 The GPU doesn't need to be that small to fit the 120mm AIO. Them problem is more that a 120mm AIO is basically useless

[@encerwalgg]

feel like ssupd did the adjuster first with the meshlicious spine, just not as many adjustment positions

[@datdudeinred]

I just simply love how unbiased this whole video is. At the end you still recommend the case despite all the drawbacks.

[@ILKTTRZ]

I'll be building in the T1 V2 within the next 2 weeks! It's so tiny I love it! It's even smaller than my meshlicious which I thought was impossibly tiny!

[@Z0mb13ta11ahase]

You can definitely fit a 120 liquid cooler in the terra.

[@akin242002]

Imitation is the greatest form of flattery. SFF is growing and winning.

[@Neonagi]

Is exhausting area from the bottom recommended over intake? Seems counter-intuitive, but if it works it works.

[@RiccardoEminyan]

Best channel out there

[@kroganbaby6163]

I want the Dan C4-Sfx so bad but it's not available in my country. Both T1 and Terra are available but they're too small for my liking.

[@Kahlimer0]

What about the LianLi A4H20 ? might be close enough from the Dan C4 since they made it together as collab

[@kroganbaby6163]

@@Kahlimer0 Still too small. Dan C4 is just the right size for me.

[@RathOX]

Its because it wont come back its discontinued, he made 1 run of the case, v2 is coming out next year.

[@z4k1_zaki65]

C4-V2 is coming out

[@edithnamitala-ws6tk]

I never understand the pricing of itx cases , ATX 90 similar company itx case 190 🤗.. but this terra is exciting.

[@roberthelcher2884]

Thank you for reviewing this case. I am currently trying to decide what my next case will be. This helped significantly. Love your builds and content. Thanks.

[@NWmariani]

Where/how in australia do you get the founders edition Nvidia Cards?

[@theone4537]

Why would you put the bottom fan as exhaust? Would you not do intake instead for the natural flow of hot air from bottom to top?

[@PatrickAndrewTanhuanco]

Thank you for this reivew! Great insights.

[@skweakykleen]

considering this case! will an RTX 3090 fit in here? preferred PSU?

[@worri3db3ar]

Interesting review on the terra case...im now more convinced to get a t1 case as an eventual replacement of my ancient midtower atx gaming pc

[@worri3db3ar]

@unholydonuts no but eventually

[@anggaavenue6229]

Now im so confused to decide my itx case , terra or t1 reference ? Because i want small pc but personally i little bit hate riser cable

[@DJGSonik]

the big difference i see is the availability international, fractal cases are pretty much in every pc part online store worldwide, no huge shipping or import/tax costs for everything outside of the US. thats the main reason i wont get the t1, second reason being that much higer price especially outside of the US with higher taxes and stuff. the t1 is a nice case but pretty much only for the US. since it´s way to expensive outside of the US for what it is

[@ptotheetother]

For me the Loque Ghost was first.

[@luchakim7593]

looking forward to see your review/build on m1evo 😀😀

[@theorganizationXII]

I love mini ITX case, but there is any hope to see some review for small mATX cases like those 3? -Sama IM01 -Asus AP201 -Jonsbo D31 There are barely bigger than the NR200P, but they can fit mATX motherboard so the build will be way less expensive.

[@jondonnelly3]

I think with graphics cards now at 3 or even 4 slots, mATX is really the form factor of choice. The small size of ITX is wasted when paired with massive cards.

[@michaelthompson9798]

@@jondonnelly3 ITX has always had its compromises ..... I feel thou the future of high end SFF ITX builds is going to come to an end. ITX will be relegated to the more mainstream mid range at best pc setups in the future ... imo :)

[@TheShortStory]

I’m running an Asus Ap201 and it’s a dream. So much ventilation, good options for fans and rads, and it’s super easy to build in because all the panels just pop off. Plus, it looks great in an understated elegant kind of way. Would love to see that case get some more appreciation.

[@Definitely_Melnyx]

Aren’t all of those mentioned cases double if not triple the volume?

[@purplecrayon7281]

@@michaelthompson9798 ITX will never be mainstream cos like you said, it could never hold high powered components due to heat. ITX caters to people who care more about aesthetics than performance.

[@dollhausenx]

"There's a bit of custom work happening here..." Talk about understatement. That's like saying nuclear war might muss the hair a bit....

[@J4ck.27]

What’s the T1/Terra like vs the A4H2O?

[@SaperPl1]

The design with panel gaps is there to not notice the imperfections. That's why cars have gaps between panels as well :)

[@gearspider]

Great video. I've noticed a keyboard change recently, is it the Flachion? Can we expect a video on this soon? and which switches did you choose? Cheers!

[@SJLESTATES]

I don't see any all white options in the Formd T1. It will mess up my white and pink setup. I am going to have to go with the Terra for now. I would have gone with the IQUNIX ZX-1 but it is sold out in the all white version. ughhh FML!

[@AhmetOmerOzgen]

fractal looks good but prolly very heavy... i have nr200p (i dont use TG) and zotac 3090 trin OC with 84C vram temps(copper modded with putty) gpu core at 72C at 1550rpm with 390W! and ALF II 240 on side. I love it.! i have 3cm 3d printed feeting and arctic p12 SLIM 12cm fans on bottom(they cooled gpu 10C!)

[@Phage_]

You should do a review of the meshroom s v2. Has support for dual 240/80mm rads in a itx enclosure!

[@tarikabdullah7694]

Hey Ali! Do you think it would be worth it to flip the PSU around to suck in hot air from the GPU and blow it out the top? I’m thinking of doing this with my ghost s1 which has a flow through spine mod. Only thing stopping me is I need to get new custom cables as the ones I have currently aren’t long enough.

[@HarishNarayanan]

Not to completely go off topic, but what is the brand of the floating shelves in this room? I absolutely would love the same ones for my home.

[@spektrumB]

Finally, I've been waiting for this review for months.

[@ProSkateMs]

Rocking the Oscar Piastri haircut

[@SuperDre74]

But how about dust collection? I see no filters on the terra, don't know about the T1.

[@user.xpired]

i would like one small pc for music production, which means it can have a smaller mediocre graphic card (but with the availability of using the 2nd screen)

[@anggaavenue6229]

So that is possible to put blackridge into am5?

[@LRRPEXILE]

Thank you for this info.

[@Tetrick25]

06:06 "That is not the Case" intentionally or not - i liked that pun :D

[@benshepherd2076]

Can you please list the 3D files from your FormD T1 build? You haven't updated the description with links

[@KamekoTsuruga]

i get that you guys like "custom cables" but corsair makes their own pci to 12vhpwr cables that i really dont see any reason not to to buy..

[@z4k1_zaki65]

Because Mod-DIY and Cablemod offers customizations on length and colours

[@germanviavattene4831]

I have the terra with a b760i + i7 13700 + rtx 4070 asus dual and i have to use a ID Cooling is-60 taking of the 95mm fan to fit the mother. Then i use the 95mm fan to INTAKE air from the bottom of the PSU/GPU, i get less than 70° in full load of the GPU but the CPU is on fire, on full load i get 95/100. So i change the PL1 and PL2 to 65W, i lost performance on the i7 but i have peace of mind that i dont have to worry about temperatures. Maybe the i7 13700 is no for this kind of build. Any suggestions?

[@realkoly]

can you review the AOC Q24G2A/BK, 23.8"? Its 1440p and 24 inch which is an interesting combination, its only like 230 bucks aswell for 165hz 1440p ips

[@ntyhurst]

How would a toasty cpu like i9-10900K do in the T1?

[@specia1_k]

Lookin jacked as usual 😘 Thanks for the thorough review and comparison as usual

[@Sirhackbard1001]

Which itx case would you recommend for a gigabyte 4090 oc gaming with 340mm length?

[@Houssamelsherif]

06:07 "not THE CASE". that's funny 😅😅

[@CimInc]

Flip the PSU.....Can improve temps by having it help exhaust GPU heated air and then the bottom fan can be flipped to an intake.

[@riba2233]

Bad ideas

[@CimInc]

@@riba2233 I have it set up like that right now and it lowered the temp of the GPU to around 62c gaming load so I beg to disagree.

[@riba2233]

@@CimInc sure, but you could kill the psu. also in this type of cases you should have case fans set to exhaust so they don't work against GPUs exhaust

[@Kokinkun]

@@CimInc You really don't want the PSU to take the heat load of your GPU in the long term as most PSUs are only rated to operate at 40-60C max.

[@saltandsham]

Hi Is this case better than the Cooler Master NR200 Pro ? I built this last year and now wondering if I can build another but smaller.

[@rustyshakelford1466]

Why did no one mention the T1? Because most tech-tubers don't known cases outside the basics, it's that simple.

[@peisaiheng]

How does the thermals compare to a Fractal Ridge? 🔥🖥

[@mypeeps1965]

The T1 is too expensive for what you get. The quality argument is too nitpicky considering the price difference. The aio compatibility in the Terra is mitigated by the fact that it can be air cooled quite easily saving setup time, cable hassles and pump failures. Nice video, take care.

[@olivercurson]

What was your experience with the ASUS b650? Of all the ITX boards for AM5 it looks the most appealing to me but I hear mixed things