Feather Fill G2 vs Slick Sand- Spraying both in the same video- My opinions and tips

[@jaketaylor6301]

Excellent video! The narrative helps those of us who haven't shot this type of product before but need experienced insight (and caveats) that tech sheets can't cover. Thanks for taking the time to post this!!

[@stevemeeks8455]

Lots of great straight forward advice. Easy to hear and understand. B careful on those boards, they look flimsy. Thanks again

[@MarcBchannel]

I ordered that gun after watching your vid. Boy does it work good for Featherfill. The 3.0mm tip is huge. Ive seen others use smaller tips like 2mm in gravity guns or the mini pressure pot from harborfreight and they just dont build up fast enough. This gun is faster with more flow and a decent fan. I dont use featherfill that much these days. I like using Tamco 2k 4to1 layed on thick with a 2mm gun. It doesn't shrink back much and its easier👍

[@Lucascalcena]

i always watch this video before spraying, always helpful!

[@daverrr7532]

That is a great painting mask with the air hose connected in the back. Where can I get one?

[@anthonybrennan1075]

Gunman does love a chat! Then again, most of us Aussies do. Cheers mate, loving the new and improved "peace and grease sucka!" 👍👍😉🤣 and glad to see a notification on a new video from ya today.

[@RatsnestHotrods]

Hahahhaha i thought it would be easier than it was! Thanks for watching Anthony!

[@strattuner]

if i'd have had slicksand in the 80's i'd be alot richer than i am,did restorations for over 43 years,i watched you put the featherfill on,wasn't impressed,but when you shot the slicksand on, it reminded me of doing my cuda,my car,i shot it,the slicksand seemed like it swelled,maybe my imagination,anyway i made it straight as hell,the slicksand is now my favorite,it stinks like hell,i shoot it and get away from it,when it drys it is superb,i'll try the feather fill on bikes and smaller projects,i like the thick viscosity,for rough bodies its wonderful thanks for the upload

[@RatsnestHotrods]

Thanks Strat!

[@mccoymodelcars9117]

All I’m used to is featherfill. After you block In 120 it’s easy sanding. Fills all the minor lows from surfacing. Love the stuff

[@PHARRAWAY]

Nice video brother keep up the good work

[@RatsnestHotrods]

Thanks Pharraway been enjoying urs as well sir!

[@perkypeanut09]

i bought the air gunsa because of how highly you spoke of it. It did not disappoint ! Love all your vids! BTW got the hearse all finished!

[@RatsnestHotrods]

Right on Charlie!

[@lwuajiro]

Thank you for the video. It offers a great comparison between the two.

[@rivermetal]

Great info thanks, I’ll be giving the Feather fill a try tomorrow

[@myfriendpete]

Why did you spray the slick sand over the feather fill?? Why didn't you stick with one or the other?? Doesn't make sense to me.. And one more question -- Why didn't you just spray the damaged areas instead of the whole car?? Probably could have saved you tons of time in the sanding process... Good video, just confused!

[@DoubleRRestorations]

I want to try the Air Gunsa. I really liked the SS. The feather fill that I tried was harder to sand too me but maybe I did something wrong or it was just that batch. I did filter out some quarts once and got caught up in spraying and forgot to put the hardner in. What a mess that was. lol. It all had to come back off. Great vid Mike.

[@RatsnestHotrods]

Omg I know I will do that someday! Thanks for watching Double!

[@txstang84]

Thanks for the perspective-I've been debating which product would be more a match for what I"m doing with my projects

[@duster71]

Wow a 3.0 top is huge,that's a lot of product. I would only use a 2.2 and only 2 light costs and usually just the lower panels. Too thick with either of those will be cracking fairly soon.

[@MrFireman164]

I know I have watched this a long time ago however it popped up again, I didn't filter my high build/ poly and it shot a bunch of shit as well so thanks for the reminder.

[@gaamcollection-gabriel1439]

Great video brother very informative!

[@RatsnestHotrods]

Thanks Gaam!

[@garylivingston9052]

I love the polyesters for getting cars nice and straight but they are so brittle and crack and chip easily. Zero flexibility.

[@timbartley5678]

My question they got a primer that is in a spray can with harder in a bladder where u rupture it shake it up really good how does that compare to the other primers even though the can I am talking about pretty expensive but when u compare prices and quality I am not sure what way to go its my first project 1958 chevy fleet side

[@Okie-Tom]

Well, I just ran onto your channel and looked at some of your other video's headings. I am going to sub your channel. Looks like a channel I can learn some stuff from. After this video I am very interested in watching your blocking a Cadillac. I am working on a 29 Model A and I am going to have to skim coat and block sand those fenders. Maybe you can make a video where you repair, skim coat, use poly filler, and block sand those kind of rounded fenders! Would be very helpful to lots of people. I had to make some patches for the fenders that involved making the wire edge and rounded patch panel. Thanks again. Tom

[@RatsnestHotrods]

Right on Tom! Thanks for the sub and kind words. I will be repairing a harley front fender in an upcoming video that will show a block out of a rounded fender. Check out a channel called shutyerface garage. He has a good video on blocking rounded fenders.

[@brianwick3826]

Great video. I was shooting Feather Fill G2 yesterday, but didn't want to shoot the whole quart. Found online where instead of using the full tube of hardener for the quart, you use 12-14 drops for each fl oz. Did that with 10 oz, shot it and it was still sticky after 3-4 hours. Tech sheet says able to sand in 90 mins. The beginning of your video, you are squeezing the entire hardener tube into what looks like less than a qt. of Feather Fill. Have you used the drops method?

[@filibertobarrera3839]

Feather fill is better when mixed in quarts,that shit kicks in pretty fast.I made a mistake of mixing half a gallon.By the time I sprayed a quart the other quart was already turning like oatmeal.

[@flyurway]

At the end, what kind of "block" are you sanding with? I'm also a bit confused, if you're comparing the two products why didn't you do 1/2 the car with one and the other 1/2 with the other to compare how they spray/fill/sand?

[@JacobKnightRiderShop]

If this stuff is like spraying bondo, then why cant it go directly to the metal? Cause its not Filler, its a primer that goes on thick...no shrinkage like urethane.

[@RatsnestHotrods]

Yeah it's a sprayable filler. No shrinkage. The tech sheets say do not spray on bare metal

[@jamescon55]

Great vid/demo and where did you access/buy your belt -respirator mask set-up? Good to see this Polyester comparison. I really like the Super Build 4-1 polyester primer as it's way more "weather-paint friendly" here in Kansas. Again, great vid!

[@Okie-Tom]

What have you been up to? Haven't seen any new videos on the caddy!

[@thesimpsons194]

I dont know if you can get ppg shopline but the 2k urethane primer i love it sands and blocks with 220 and 320

[@ryanmacewen511]

Been watching a ton of Spray Way lately. Funny you mentioned him back then. It didn't connect until now.

[@Donnelly369]

Im useing the super build 4.1 have the fast 4.1 tomorrow non optiex with 2.3 tip 73 cougar using the feather fill g2 on my other job 88 corvette

[@filibertobarrera3839]

Probably those that say it sands like concrete,are trying to block sand it with 3000 grit.😱😱😱

[@themanthemyththelegend4053]

And they wonder why their panels are wavy lol

[@laydout4934]

Thanks for the video...

[@glytch5]

I am struggling soooo much with priming my entire roof with a spray gun. I like the 2 buckets and a plank idea... but idk where I would put the plank when i'm done with it. I am practically shooting blind at this point. Its only a little toyota but man, if I had something I could stand on where I could take just one step one way or the other I would be golden. I'm a big dude on top of that so I would put some SERIOUS flex into a plank like you! Any other good ideas?

[@onomatopoeidia]

really top job. What am I missing by just going straight from epoxy to high fill primer and leaving out the feather fill middle layer? Would love to but hugely bumps up my cost as that stuff costs about $100 per litre here. ouch.

[@plantpoweredhealth9383]

In theory you could,if your bodywork was dead straight. You can use normal filler and lightweight filler if you only had a ripple here or there. But most of our old cars need the featherfill as its easy to apply,sand and check for straightness.

[@NJTreeSharks]

I have the same gun. What is your psi fan and fluid settings? Thanks

[@patrickpeterman8736]

'do you feel running lacquer thinner or some comparable "gun cleaner" between coats(-max 6-10 minutes) would void having to disassemble the gun and clean it?? changing only the cup-with filtered product: (2 cups )?? PJP

[@2flyingbiscuits429]

I was wondering what you think I should do. I’m thinking I’m gonna skim coat with rage gold then urekem epoxy primer then primer, basecoat, and clear. I was wondering what grits I should use and stop at between each stage and what’s a good glaze putty to use? And how long can I wait between each stage. Mainly need to know about laying skim coat and epoxy primer and long I can wait with epoxy primer bc I will have to order the primer, basecoat, and clear. But wanted to start on epoxy and learn bc first time doing this.

[@GMC_AT4]

Just curious with the Airgunsa 3.0 gun, what pressure are you spraying at? Got the same Airgunsa 3.0 after watching your video and I'm ready to lay some poly down. Thanks.

[@RatsnestHotrods]

70 psi at the gun inlet works well for me

[@Imwright720]

Just curious , isn’t everything in your garage covered with overspray.

[@sblack48]

Do u know if these products can be tinted? I accidentally bought a gallon of black. I was hoping I could at least tiny it to a grey. What is the brand of your respirator? Are u happy with it?

[@RatsnestHotrods]

Hmmmm I'm not sure but I bet they could be. I would shoot it on a test panel first though. Let me know if you try it.

[@sblack48]

@@RatsnestHotrods I have a tube of white tint on order

[@carlschuler2034]

thanks for the videos its made blocking my 66 bronco much easier

[@RatsnestHotrods]

I know the feeling Carl! Thanks for watching!

[@DavidBrady-wf6qh]

High price gun for primer? 19 dollar gun will do the same! Thanks for the video. BAD CHAD ROCKS!

[@cocopublicnews6766]

I watch these paint videos building up the knowledge to do my car I have a 49 pontiac and I think I'm to short for this I'm only 5'9

[@ArlowFarrell]

What mask/respirator are you wearing there? I want something that's going to save me from all the crap I'm spraying out in my back yard.

[@blakealley2016]

Versaflo about 1700 a pop

[@mrgeopet4291]

Just found ya and subbed , looking forward to the fun !!!

[@RatsnestHotrods]

Welcome aboard Mark!

[@jeffrob073]

I know this is an older video, what was the model of the air gunsa gun ?

[@sdr_autochannel4310]

You need to mix more your can I use this stuff all the time and I never get this much gunk in my strainer you have to take your time and really mix it and brake it down well ! 😎👌🏼 takes time Bt it does break it down . I get almost nothing in my strainer . And I spray it with 1.8 bellaria w-400 lays down very well for me I shoot it at 43-45 psi about 6” distance

[@hotcraig72]

Thanks for the video. Why don't you pour through filter after mixing hardener?

[@RatsnestHotrods]

It starts to set to fast.

[@dwightpruitt6809]

@@RatsnestHotrods What mesh filter 60 or 120 ?

[@lowebody]

3mm is a huge tip. No problem with laying on too thick getting runs or wrinkles?

[@splash5974]

Who cares...your blocking that shit out anyways!

[@ES4406]

Thumbs up Ratsnest! good video thankyou.

[@RatsnestHotrods]

Thanks Earl!

[@Supanova70]

Is 320 grit good enough on final blocking poly before 2k restoration?

[@drackett19]

Thanks for the informative vid! I’ll be using featherfill on my truck soon. How long do you need to wait between coats?

[@RatsnestHotrods]

Right on Dan! 5 to 10 minutes

[@deanhauser6626]

what one would you recommend using on my old fiberglass motorhome?

[@RatsnestHotrods]

Feather fill

[@helisean10]

How could either of these primers be any harder to sand than body filler?? I call bs. I have used slick sand many times and it is a joy to sand because it is so easy and smooth. If it is laid on nicely, you can go straight to 320 or 400 grit. No way could you do that with filler or polyester putty. It makes no sense at all when people say that polyester primer is hard to sand. It is designed to be finely sanded and it is possible to paint directly over. It is great stuff. It makes big filler jobs much easier and sands like a dream.

[@zacks240sx]

Can I spray a urethane base coat ppg omni over feather fill after wetsand?

[@RatsnestHotrods]

No. U need a sealer or epoxy first. I sand it to 240 and then spray 3 coats of high build urethane primer and wet sand that

[@MrFireman164]

Love that stuff , may never use high build again .

[@RatsnestHotrods]

Yo Fireman!

[@MrFireman164]

Ratsnest Hotrods reminds me of that commercial for siracha sauce where that old lady says “I put that shit on everything “

[@RatsnestHotrods]

Hahahahahaah exactly!

[@RatsnestHotrods]

I'm using that in my next video!

[@MrFireman164]

Ratsnest Hotrods lol

[@GaryRubino]

Next up try superbuild! :) I just dont wanna be the only weirdo spraying that stuff lol

[@RatsnestHotrods]

Hey Gary hahahahahah

[@ES4406]

Used 4 to1 for years.... again, sands like concrete but the holdout of fantastic like the other two products in this video. PLUS its a DTM

[@thesimpsons194]

Try true finish 2k primer sands like butter and its cheap

[@gehringer37]

Slicksand is garbage! I have used featherfill G2 for years now and love it! If people say Featherfill g2 sands like concrete I bet they are talking about the original Featherfill. The G2 sands easy!

[@sdr_autochannel4310]

3mm tip wow 😳

[@worldstrongest]

I find slick-sand awesome to use

[@worldstrongest]

Thanks for the video😊

[@hotrodroy111]

Why do you use urethane over the featherfill? Epoxy wouldn’t work as well?

[@RatsnestHotrods]

I sand the final shoot of FF with 180 grit. If I shot epoxy over it I wouldn't be able to sand to 400 or 600 grit. FF is body filler. Looking at it that way. If I laid down body filler all over the car and blocked it out you would shoot a high build urethane for final sand. After I have sanded to 400 or 600 I will shoot epoxy right before the base coat. Hope that helps

[@hotrodroy111]

@@RatsnestHotrods Hell, I knew you can't sand epoxy. I am new to this body work stuff and the language of painting is difficult to get a grasp on. Now I think I understand much better. Thanks. One more question...I get why you do epoxy onto the metal to begin with, but why seal with epoxy before paint.

[@hotrodroy111]

Is it because it is a better sealer than urethane

[@RatsnestHotrods]

Well its debatable really. I think epoxy is a superior sealer over urethane. However I have and do use a urethane sealer all the time. Heres how I do it. Repair or flipping a car with a quick paint job I use urethane. Show car I use epoxy as a sealer. Both work very well but I think epoxy locks down the body work a little better. Make sense?

[@hotrodroy111]

@@RatsnestHotrods Yes. I appreciate your help!

[@timbartley5678]

Never dot a response to my question just below this one

[@eddie_lee6587]

I like slick sand

[@rongamble9884]

I don't recommend either one of them quit being a butcher and do body prep the right way

[@williamgrayson4181]

Spray polyester all the way

[@bighorn9119]

Why are you using fantasy safety equipment like that mask just use normal respirator