Harsh Truths About Federal Prison Camps

[@michaelmullin3744]

You're on the spot. I served my time in Allenwood pennsylvania in nineteen eighty eigate and you are right pretty much on everything but I tell you what it was the best thing that ever happened to me

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Me too buddy. Best thing! Good to be home. Thanks for watching.

[@ionmd4289]

@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial 😊

[@KaseyAllen-q3g]

​@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial in federal prison camp can you use the phone as much as you want daily? Or is there only the 500 minutes a month?

[@Bugsybear2]

Never been in prison. I'm 67 and don't expect to go, but your story is of value to all. The lack of freedom., sleeping with people you don't know, poor diet, etc. is nothing I would want to experience. But if I had to experience what you did, I would listen to everything you have to say. Anyone can change their life for the future.. You are proof. I respect you so much for accepting responsibility and creating a new life.

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Thank you so very much for this message. I appreciate it.

[@sewsweet51]

Justin, by sheer accident, I watched one of your videos. I was intrigued and fascinated by your “positive” experience in prison and how the outcome made you who you are today. I have never been in prison and I likely never will be, but your advice and wisdom can be applied to all aspects in life. Thank you for reminding me how fortunate I am to have what I have. You are an inspiration to everyone who feels like life dealt them a bad hand. Keep up the good work.

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Thank you so much for this wonderful note. I appreciate it very much. Please forgive my delay in responding. I missed it.

[@Flyrabbit1]

I’m not going to prison - but I am in a rough spot in my life - this advice about not looking back and doing things today to improve the future is good for me to hear - I am grateful - thank you

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Thank you for commenting. So happy to know this was valuable.

[@MODEL_CITIZEN]

Thank you for this. I've been sentenced to 18 months, and I really appreciate your blunt and honest advice.

[@arlenedrake9305]

You are explaining my son been in prison most of his life it breaks my heart

[@FedPhoenix]

Im so sorry. As a mother and former inmate, i cannot imagine if my child had that experience. ❤

[@t.c.s.7724]

Thank you for this conversation today. I've never been to prison but your words are applicable to all those who live with regrets. Title for this video should be: How going to prison set me free.

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

I appreciate your comments and for watching. Thank you so much.

[@buckin8969]

You really nailed it. That fear of seeing family and friends and the questions that follow. Gave me chills.

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Thank you for your insights. Appreciate it.

[@michellea638]

Justin, I have 100% respect for you. Thank you for your informative channel.

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Thank you so much.

[@12yearssober]

My brother was in the marines and retired after 33 years. His job in the marines was recon. Its basically the equivalent to the seals in the navy as far as hand to hand combat training and experience. Upon getting out of the marines he started drinking because he was having trouble adjusting back to being a civilian. He got drunk one night and had an accident which injured someone. He received a 3 year state prison sentence. This was in ohio. He had some trouble in county when some guys threatened him. He dealt with them as he was trained to do destroying them. After that he was transferred to state prison and after a month at reception in Columbus he was sent to a prison with a dorm only for ex military guys. He never had any more problems and did his time. What he was surprised the most is that the anxiety of getting released was very similar to leaving the military. Neither one fully prepares you for normal civilian life. Thankfully he has stopped drinking and has continued working with the VA to help him cope with PTSD etc. The system is truly set up for people to fail and return. It takes some serious inner strength to be successful upon release.

[@DrSchor]

the system is not set up to fail. people with inner strength never have a problem. obviously, your brother did not and does not have inner strengh.

[@12yearssober]

@@DrSchor He had enough inner strength to serve 33 years as a marine and most of them Recon. He saw plenty of action some of which we will never know about because he isn’t able to talk about it. His inner strength is not the issue. His addiction like mine is the issue. He has not drank since his accident. I would love to set up a meeting between both of you where you could discuss your thoughts on his inner strength. If you are near Cincinnati Ohio I can make that happen.

[@fotogal54]

great info and advice. thank you..

[@salmadeyji7015]

Thank you so much for sharing this! I’m preparing myself I’ll be leaving in a few days.

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

You’re welcome. Join our free webinar today at 1pm eastern. Text 949-378-5549 to get link.

[@loua3926]

I’ve never been in a prison of brick and mortar, but a prison in my mind, yes! Interesting how your description of sitting in prison doing nothing describes how I feel. I’ve had 3years of extensive therapy. I know how I got here. Fear that I won’t be free once the chains are removed.

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Thank you for contributing and sharing these personal thoughts. Knowing how you got here, I think, is half the battle. You can’t fix it unless you know what’s wrong. Best to you.

[@kathleentoohey1297]

Thanks for sharing your lessons. It helps to keep me hopeful during my tough time! Thx👍🏼

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

You are so welcome. Thank you for watching.

[@DrSchor]

all agree it is cruel to give false hopes, all agree it is best to face reality.

[@JJV2223]

I appreciate your videos. I was sentenced to a six month sentence at a federal prison camp in Pa and although I thought I was mentally ready when I self-surrendered, I was not at all. Most, if not all, of the things you mention were spot on, but even though I heard you speak of certain things I was mentally a mess. It took me approx. 6 weeks to realize I was finally in prison and I still work to this day to get by what had happened to me. The institution I was at was awful when it came to programs offered for inmates. They were actually non-existent! Boredom is absolutely the hardest thing to overcome while you are there and getting some sort of daily routine is essential to get you through the days. I referred to Shawshank Redemption movie when they are in the yard and everyone states in there that they are innocent. Well, that is 100% true. I did play bocce ball, softball, pickleball, handball and walked the track just to pass time. One thing I would suggest if someone is in the position to choose when they report to prison. Go Immediately if your home life allows to get it over with. 2. If you can go in the summer, go. The days stay light out till 9 pm so you can remain outside until it's dark. If you are there in the winter and it's dark at 5 pm, then you get recalled and you can't be out in the yard. I couldn't imagine being there in the winter and being cooped up in the buidling from 5 pm until 6 am the next day.

[@DrSchor]

i am sick of jailbirds saying they dont like being bored. people who have to work for a living instead of hanging out at camp playing sports would love to be bored. clearly, it is not 100 percent true that people in jail are innocent. it is 100 percent true that they are guilty.

[@mrabrasive51]

I'm 67 and retired,doing almost nothing all day is a piece of cake..I wouldt have any motivation to leave a camp.free room and board,no car insurance etc..

[@siglandoe3913]

I have had relatives and friends I visited in prison. And as much I don’t think I’ve done things that deserve prison time, sometimes there is a fine line between those on the inside and those on the out. Some wind up inside because they can’t afford a good lawyer.

[@DrSchor]

the line between good behavior and crime is not fine, it is very plain. you are fooling yourself if you believe you are in jail because of a lawyers fault, you are in there because of your own fault. it is sad your friends and relatives dont belong in society, you desperately need to find a new set of people to be with.

[@timothyhBoulder]

Spent 20 months between camps at USP Thomson and Pekin from a 42 month sentence (thank you RDAP). There were fights at both facilities, mostly from people not following the basic rules, so learn the 10 rules, abide by them and you should be okay. You are correct, that boredom is probably the most difficult challenge to overcome, but I would advise people to engage in activities like running, softball, soccer, or whatever your facility offers. Those do help to create a routine that can be both mentally and physically rewarding. It's so important for people (men and women) to emerge from prison with a reasonable physical routine that can be maintained on the outside. I was a runner in years past and got back into it during my incarceration and am now competing in several road and trail races each year. It provides goals, purpose and being physically fit helps with mental fitness as well, at least I think so.

[@DrSchor]

i am tired of prisoners complaining about boredom. hard working people would love to be so bored that they have to play games to feel better.

[@Koss-1978]

I really enjoy your videos. I very much admire you for turning your life around!

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Thank you so much!

[@DrSchor]

i only admire ethical people who never did anything to require having to turn their life around. he did not turn his lie around because of some special skill, he turned his life around because the penitentiary taught him to be penetrant or he would return. now he is cashing in on other people's mistakes and pain. sad.

[@AnnoyedLeopardSeal-db5vj]

Thank you for sharing your experience

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

And thank you for watching. Best to you!

[@scarlettsunz2099]

Yes boredom is absolutely the worst. I was in an FDC, with absolutely no programming. They wouldn't let pre-sentenced inmates work, so we'd all just sit there all day. And a bunch of bored women do nothing but cause drama. Gossiping, making life miserable for weaker inmates. I did not adjust well. I didn't realize that all phone calls were actually listened to, and said something dumb to my mother and ended up in the SHU for weeks. I was totally unprepared. I was negative and complained all the time and nobody liked me. I had previously been a voracious reader, but in prison i couldn't concentrate. My only joy was my radio. I'd lay in my bunk all day and listen. Color pictures. I couldn't focus on movie night even. You are right, i would obsess about what i used to have.

[@DrSchor]

if you think being bored is bad, try working every day. i would love to listen to the radio instead.

[@FedPhoenix]

No time passes slower than prison time. Speaking from experience. ❤

[@russellseilhamer4552]

I also think you hit the nail on the head. Free your mind and the rest will follow. I imagine a lot of these ppl never break out of the kind of mentality that put them in prison in the first place and that’s sad A lot of ppl live psychologically behind bars and either can’t or won’t put in the work necessary for the changes they need to create a better life for themselves and their families. The physical bars of prison; the physical barrier seems to pale when compared to the mental barrier

[@DrSchor]

not al all, being behind physical bars is of course worse than being behind imagined bars.

[@billydoyle6919]

I've employed some ex-criminals over the years. Some of the best workers I've had. Its tough for them once released. Society really makes it almost impossible for guys that have a prison record. Then we wonder why reoffending is so high. All of those I employed had faced the wrath of those that think that if you do time, you're done, no second chances, no opportunities for you. They talked in their interview and became visibly distressed at the hopelessness and lonliness once out. Many reoffend because of this. I found by treating these guys with the same level of respect, same opportunities for courses, same rewards for extra effort, displays of competence and being a great team member, they thrived. Its a risk employing former prisoners but If you stumble upon one that's truely done with their former life and genuinely working hard to be a better version of themselves, you won't regret it. Here's a list of skills a former prisoner wrote down for me when I asked him what he'd learnt in prison and when committing crime (for him it was non-violent drug offending) -Resourcefulness -conflict avoidness/management -Time management (this guy was never, ever late) -Following instructions -Completing 'unfun' tasks -Fitting in quickly to a group -Legal studies and understanding court proceedings (this turned out to be his real strength and I helped him become a law student eventually) -Legal Research -Supply chain logistics -Surveillance skills -Security systems, CCTV installation, IP camera systems. -Creditor/debitor management -Debt collection -Horticultural skills The list went on but he wasn't arrogant about it. I had to admire looking at the totality of his illicit skills and how he could choose to refocus these to legal, constructive activities that were in his best interest instead of causing harm to himself and the community. I've only just found your channel and while I have never been to prison, you're ethos is of value in a wider context. Great work.

[@FedPhoenix]

Felon disenfranchisement is a heck of a hurdle for those navigating reentry. Thank you for giving your employees a chance at a better life. ❤

[@arlenedrake9305]

Why am I afraid for when my son comes home in September

[@DrSchor]

because he belongs in jail, of course, what other reason could there be?

[@anthonybuda5624]

I did 2 10 year sentences under the old guide lines meaning may crimes where committed prior to October 1987 my journey was insane and such a great learning experience!! My journey was quite difference then most because I’m Italian American. I did what most could never dream of doing

[@DrSchor]

it's true what you say, most people dont dream of being Italian crooks.

[@alexalvarez9852]

I screwed up, and when compliance came to me I was just honest with them from day one.

[@janicechilders4885]

Wow….great video!

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Thank you!

[@theartofancientegyptianmet1747]

Great advise!

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Thank you.

[@nathanturley4916]

If you're not working you can take up arts and crafts they have a music center where you can play instruments and create your own bands amongst your fellow inmates absolutely no reason to be bored in a federal prison camp or FCI there is plenty to do

[@FedPhoenix]

Id love to do a video/interview with you. I also did my time in a federal prison camp. I came home about a year and a half ago. My channel is very similar to yours (prison genre).

[@chichoblogs6082]

Hey Justin. Question, if you going to prison and have credit cards and can’t pay them will it go to collection? Or can you pause payments?

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

They still expect payments.

[@DrSchor]

hey chichoblog: Question. Why do you label a sentence with a question mark at the end as a question?

[@ladyeowyn42]

Love your list of foolish actions that got people beaten up. Those could be a whole video I bet.

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

You’re right. The unsolicited advice story everyone saw coming. I should film that.

[@nathanturley4916]

28 seconds into this video and the first thing I'm commenting on is he says good men in federal prison what good men are in federal prison ?

[@kenherrera2819]

A camp is still a prison, BUT as you say, it's really not hard time at all and being bored is the biggest threat you will face. My loved one was sentenced to a year and a day in FPC Duluth and thanks to the First step Act he was sent to halfway house 3 days short of 6 months and his sentence ended one month later! He is now home and on supervised release (probation). That's right, he did only a total of 7 months on a 12 month sentence and only 6 months of that was in a prison. A white collar crime with no previous arrests so instead of the 7 years he was looking at during the 2 year long pre-trial period he ended up with a year and a day. His sentence began January 23rd, 2024 and he was sent to halfway house on July 20th, 2024 and his sentence ended on September 4th and he was sent home. This is a good indication of how white collar inmates can dramatically reduce their sentence by following all the rules while in a camp. Avoid the temptation to do anything not authorized and take all the FSA programs you can! He followed your advice from day one, kept a journal, had a written release plan and stayed away from all things not authorized. He also took full advantage of every opportunity he was given to improve himself. If you stay as busy as possible, the time really does fly by. He started watching your videos shortly after he was chargd and long before he was sentenced and everything you suggested proved to be tremendously helpful every step of the way. I credit your adivice for the fact that he ended up with a year and a day instead of much more prison time! He followed all of your pre-sentence advice to the letter! Thank you for what you do and especially for the help you so freely offer here on KZbin, help that is sorely needed by anyone facing a federal prison term.

[@AnnoyedLeopardSeal-db5vj]

Hi I have never been to jail or any prison thank God. I have a son there and it is so hard for me. I pray every day for him. He just got there and is in the stage of unknown and waiting. I talk to hime and tell him to read his bible and use his time wisely. I know God has a plan for him. He has a good heart. He can use his experience to help young guys know the real story about prison and street life. Please pray for my son and the young men in prison.

[@DrSchor]

He does not need prayer, he already living out gods plan for him to be in prison. He is exactly where god wants him to be.

[@arlenedrake9305]

Yes spot on

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Thanks for watching.

[@PoppysGuitar]

You should talk about how your problems developed to point that you were investigated by the IRS and their CID and how that led to your eventual conviction. If you already have done so, I apologize.

[@DrSchor]

i can tell you how his problems developed. he is a crook. no sense of ethics. i am sure he was never in the boy scouts.

[@arlenedrake9305]

I wish my son could listen to you. He’s 59 yo

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

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[@manoelvieira2720]

Um bonito trabalho de sucesso parabens

[@nathanturley4916]

This is a misconception when you're inside thinking about the life you had you didn't really have a life because you were being a criminal the truth of the matter is once you're in prison your life begins you don't think about the false life you had you think about the mistakes you made

[@Lutemann]

Do you think there are a lot of people in this country who live in poverty who would rather live in Club Fed than be out on the street? Or is the desire for freedom too strong.

[@DrSchor]

of course, it is much easier to live in club fed than working for a living for a lot of people, in fact, for all the people who are living in club fed.

[@nathanturley4916]

You can find all kinds of Hope in a prison remember without hope you have nothing

[@tod3msn]

Why would someone care if a person in federal prison plays softball? Live and let live.

[@DrSchor]

because they have to work to earn a place to stay and buy food instead of playing games.

[@theodoreeaton5349]

It all depends on the nature of the charges but In a minimum risk facility you shouldn't be involved in fights, there shouldn't be any bad things that happens. Fed prison is about fighting boredom and adjusting to the surroundings and a lack of free will. Real prison is exactly like shows on TV. I spent a year in Columbia ci, you name it it happened! Your surrounded by up to 100 other inmates in 1 dorm and stuff gets wild! I've been in 2 man cell's 24/7 lockdown, 23/7 lockdown, open bay and work release! The food is terrible to the point of if you don't fight for the edible food you will starve because someone else wants it.

[@DrSchor]

it's true, club fed is club fed. easy and pleasant.

[@jw8285]

How about the people who are innocent and have to go. It’s wrong on so many levels

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

That’s correct.

[@DrSchor]

no one innocent goes to prison.

[@Ginger18420]

Have you heard of the tablets in California prisons ? Is that true?

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Yes. Our programs are on them.

[@Ginger18420]

@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial how long does it take someone in reception usually? Preparing myself for my partner to be gone 🙁

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[@dinojohn1]

I hope yur business all the best. 'PickleBall don't pay the bills'.

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Thank you very much!

[@TstanDa-Man]

What your describing shouldn’t be called prison… You are basically at a hotel and you just can’t leave. Do you know how many people would love to have a bed a TV and 3 meals a day and not have to do anything.

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

One of the dumber comments I’ve read in 2023. In the top 10!!

[@DrSchor]

@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial not at all dumb, i would love to get a bed, TV, and meals and nothing to do. try working for a living.

[@cukyvalentin5675]

So sorry For My son

[@nathanturley4916]

The problem with the white collared criminals that he really never had skills to perform gratifying labor and they still don't try to acquire skills even when they're locked up they just want to pacify time

[@michaelmullin3744]

Number one you don't tell anybody about your case

[@design7054]

IRS racket got you? You're the victim, mate.

[@dkupke]

Should have stayed locked up.

[@nathanturley4916]

Federal prison camp and federal FCI you'll work a 7-hour a day job 5 days a week if you don't you'll go to the hole I don't know what this guy's talking about work for an hour here and an hour there and spend the rest of his time in the gym it doesn't work that way at all the only way you can watch television or work out for hours on end is if you don't have an assigned job and you will have a job weather at the CMS buildings or unicorn or the chow hall

[@manoelvieira2720]

Parabens pra federal trabalho bem sussedido top 10

[@Ivan-pl2it]

If you want to see real criminals visit the parking lot of a federal prison during shift change.

[@charlie8958]

That's any prison state or federal.

[@nathanturley4916]

He is not going to scrub toilets at a Taco Bell get real

[@c.d.g.8605]

Did he say good men 🤦‍♀️

[@squarebusinessofficial]

It's called programming. Lol

[@Carlton_Wilson]

Dude, comparing a minimum security camp to Shawshank Redemption? They were inside the wall. There is no room for rats inside the wall, but the camps are full of them.

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

If you listen to the video, you’ll hear, I said, there is no comparison to Shawshank redemption and a camp. I said it clearly.

[@Carlton_Wilson]

@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial Then why mention it? The inference was that Shawshank was fictional and the camp you were in was real. You weren't in a prison at all. The fictional tale of The Shawshank Redemption was more akin to prison than what you experienced. The only harsh truth about USBOP camps is that the inmates are nearlt all 5K cooperators. Nothing harsh about them.

[@MG-xy2sd]

By definition, if you are not allowed to leave without the US Government looking for you, it’s prison. Justin won’t say this because he’s a diplomat. I’m not. That is a stupid argument every time I hear it.

[@MG-xy2sd]

@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial You say it all of the time. Some people will argue with a stop sign.

[@AnnoyedLeopardSeal-db5vj]

Do prisoners have people come in to help teach public speaking. To help with communication skills to help others who want to know their experience when they get out. It may save some of out young men that are struggling and need help to avoid trouble or prison. We are loosing so many men.

[@DrSchor]

no

[@cukyvalentin5675]

😮😮😮😮

[@SeaGlass-z2g]

Anybody in prison isn’t a “good” person!

[@halkreitman7838]

Did 63 months of 96..for a crime not invloved but never knew it was happening..manchester and miami camp

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Great you’re home. Best of luck.

[@kevinteal5735]

How did you get 33 months off. I thought in fed prison camps you had to do 85% of your time?

[@themysterycook7320]

Prison sounds horrible!!! Could any place be any worse?

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Someone I was in prison with told me a cruise was nearly as bad.

[@DrSchor]

anyone on the outside will tell you that working for a living is worse.

[@DrSchor]

you are so right! prison should be very pleasant, so we can all have a nice place to go instead of working for a living.