Female Thor is a BORE | Thor Love and Thunder is a DISASTER

[@LucasBR702]

Wanda-loses a boyfriend she knew for 2-3 years and two kids she only knew for a couple of days while enslaving a town full of innocent people Gets treated as a tragic character we should feel bad about Thor-loses his mother,father,brother,friends,his kingdom and half of his people and blames himself for all of it Is treated as a comic relief we should all laugh at

[@mariejuana8246]

Seems fair to me

[@JadeRunner]

This is what happens when you hire amoral sociopathic people to write morality tales. 🤷‍♂️

[@gonnacry4513]

@@mariejuana8246 You can't be serious 😂

[@Crazieyboy15]

Oh, and don’t forget her boyfriend was basically the equivalent of a vibrator and her “kids” were the equivalent of very convincing VR charecters.

[@tylerburress9364]

Let’s not forget we had to make Thor the poster child for PTSD in Endgame. We were supposed to be understanding that he spiraled out of control with depression. It wasn’t to be mocked due to the seriousness of what he was going through, but now it is fine to joke and dismiss his pain. He is just a clown to entertain the masses.

[@hanskneesun123]

Valkyrie didn't earn her place as King, it was gifted to her, out of all the Asgardians she's the least deserving considering all the people she sold into slavery that went on to die in the arena. The insistence of calling the ex slaver and confirmed drunk Valkyrie 'King' is an appalling message to send to young women, dabble in slavery, get drunk and the world is yours.

[@martinportelance138]

With Heimdall, Odin, Loki, Sif, Freya, the Warrior Three and even the Rainbow Bridge gone, there sure isn't much left in 'Asgard' for interest.

[@qtarokujo3694]

it even shows, she doesn't do that much "king" stuff in the movie and when she does, she's not enthusiastic about it

[@CordeliaWagner]

Still better than give up your life to become a mother.

[@mallorycarpinski1160]

@@CordeliaWagner Like your own mother did so you could make statements like that...

[@hanskneesun123]

@@robfxlaserfx9335 It's also hypocritical, Disney renamed Boba Fett's ship from 'slave 1' to Firespray yet decide it's ok to go with this backstory for Valkyrie.

[@LunaticFringeReviews]

It amazes me that Thor, a literal Thunder God who killed Thanos in Endgame, gets treated like comic relief in his own movies. Almost like they hate the character

[@nugz1875]

White male heros are being destroyed it doesn't amaze me but u get ya.

[@random__joe]

Well he is a straight white male. Of course they hate him..

[@JuliandroSV]

Sad to see Chris, someone with a few hundred grand on his bank account do that willing. AFTER what happened with Loki.

[@theobnoxiousguy3425]

@@moonbrickmotion9425 I prefer his phase 1 and comic book personality.

[@oreoyo5639]

I mean look at Strange 2. Dr. Strange ain't even the main character of that movie tbh. It feel so underwhelming as a sequel to strange 1.

[@Me-th3gj]

I miss the days when superhero movies were done seriously. They were immersive and transported you to another universe.

[@LostSox]

It went in an arc. The 90s they were still trying to figure things out. 00 and 10s is where it peaked. Now, here we are.

[@Yvanehtnioj2000]

What days were those? Only immersive superhero movies that transported you to another universe is Bale’s Dark Knight trilogy and Tobey’s Spider-Man trilogy…

[@adellianaura7910]

​​@@Yvanehtnioj2000MCU phase 1-3 though... Not to mention Netflix Daredevil and Defenders It's crazy that Netflix made better Marvel Series than Disney+ Just look at How far the quality gap between Daredevil and She Hulk

[@Yvanehtnioj2000]

@@adellianaura7910 I honestly think the character acting was better than the stories in the MCU. Like Thor Ragnorok, I absolutely LOVE that movie it’s by far my favorite of the entire MCU but at the same time it has a very flat plot that wouldn’t have did so well had it not been for the amazing cast of characters. Infinity War is GOATED it’s the best film of the entire MCU but that’s it’s for me the other movie plots are so stupid and easily forgettable especially Age of Ultron and Endgame. But again this is MY opinion not shittin on the MCU but to imply the storylines were any good is a reach the only characters that had any development and good stories were Tony and Thor. And Thor’s story only gets good starting with Ragnarok and it ends in Infinity War he’s completely ruined in Endgame to make the whole movie about Tony Stark making amends and helping everyone one last time before eventually dying.

[@Akuma.Matata]

"In Thor: Love and Thunder, Korg mentions he has two dads, but in Thor: Ragnarok, he explicitly said that his mom and her boyfriend were the only ones to show up to his revolution." - such lazy writing, they dont even care about previous scripts when "sending the message"

[@issacguzman2902]

Nah, cause he says the 2 males of his race hold hands over a fire and make the baby so he has no mom...none of em do apparently

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

@@davidburns9766 that or.............it's just lazy writing

[@cochise1003]

@@davidburns9766 They aren’t even gay in the actual sense of being gay. Just like in the comics all members of the Kronan race are men and they just hold hands to reproduce lol.

[@frey8725]

They need an MCU council to reign it writers and make sure things fit together because Waititi can't keep his shit straight.

[@Odd1337]

@@davidburns9766 dude Thor love and thunder established that they reproduce like dragon ball Namekians, so him saying that his mum has a boyfriend makes literally no sense.

[@mehanich4891]

When you think about it, Thor has been through a lot - lost his parents, brother, comrades, even an entire kingdom with a huge population, for which he was responsible, but Marvel still shows him as a clown and uses him as a tool for cheap jokes!

[@gershman23]

All true, other than the population...As Asgard never seemed to have a booming populace, in that bizarre upside-down ,half a planet.

[@thebatman4279]

But Wanda can't be with her fake ass kids and we're all supposed to weep tears for her 😢😢😢

[@semi2893]

Taika is the worst director ever!

[@tatters6623]

Actually his character hides pain through humor.

[@deovision]

Totally agree. Thor should be practically Odin level at this point.

[@PinkRanger1105]

I will never understand how Disney simultaneously shoves “female empowerment” down our throats while also shoeing in the erasure of women. It’s like they’ve been screaming at the top of their lungs that women are just as strong as men, but OH NO! Don’t call any of us “Lady” or “Queen” because that’s somehow an insult. I would LOVE for someone at Disney to tell Queen Elizabeth that her title has actually meant nothing for the past 70 years, and that she should’ve just chosen the title of “King” to really command respect. Riiiiiiight. 🙄 So, I guess the message is: Men are sh*t, but also superior enough that we have to steal their titles? What a stellar lesson to teach young girls, Disney.

[@trugoingnowhere]

🤣🤔

[@keithkannenberg7414]

Strictly speaking, "King" is a higher title than "Queen" historically, which is why a Queen Regnant (like Eliz II) has a Prince Consort for a husband. But that's just details and I agree with your point.

[@PinkRanger1105]

@@keithkannenberg7414 True, a king typically has more power than a queen, but if the queen becomes the primary ruler of a sovereign state, she becomes the Head Ruler (or Head of the State). To be clear, I absolutely understand what you were saying and I hope I’m not coming off argumentative. I‘m just further emphasizing my point that it’s silly to try to spin the message that a queen is somehow “beneath” the title of a king when there is no king. It’s like comparing apples to oranges-an apple a day may keep the doctor away, but oranges also protect the immune system. Why be an apple when an orange has equal power?

[@anothercat1300]

The queen represents the Heart of a Nation. The way a King treats his Queen is a reflection of his treatment towards his people. If he treats her poorly the King is written as a Tyrant and a fiend inevitably. Also a Queen possesses Kingly authority over those who are subject to the King. That puts most men in the Kingdom beneath her. Leaving it at "well a King has more power than her" is a modern distortion of out culture. A will to Power isn't everything. Marvel movies don't get that today. It makes the movies so boring to watch. If you want real heroics watch the Zatoichi films. He's the definition of Justice. He's not emasculated and is better to watch than any of the garbage we get today. His 27 movies were made from the 60s to the 80s and are timeless classics.

[@JadeRunner]

I believe their logic is something like female titles like Queen, Mrs, Mistress etc and such were only invented to separate females from males and these titles were inferior to their male counterparts from their inception, therefore true "progress" is to erase these titles and give females the same traditionally male titles, to take those male titles and turn them into unisex titles which is apparently what they always "should" have been. Of course, that only makes sense if you're a brainwashed intersectional feminatrix nutjob.

[@HateIncarnate]

I just hated the fact that anyone besides Thor can lift Mjölnir.

[@chrisfraser5088]

The saddest part of all this (from a story telling perspective), is there’s SO MUCH great material they could be using from older comics. Incredible places, enthralling characters, nail biting story arcs, and so on. But no…we get this shit. Fuck Disney, I’m done with it.

[@Mridul.S]

This film is basically like a High Budget, 2Hr long "FRIENDS or The Office" episode. Except it's unfunny and uninventive.

[@petriew2018]

they'll never touch that stuff, that would require Kevin Fiege having to give credit to someone more talented than he is

[@tochukwuudu7763]

i swear it hurts so bad and the first thor movie is actually pretty decent.

[@majpeaches]

Yeah, but how much of that awesome stuff from the comics comes from after Disney bought Marvel? If you haven't noticed, they are just skipping everything from before that purchase so they can rush to their plot lines

[@msmaria5039]

I've been done with Disney for ages. Since the last Jedi. Not a huge Thor movie fan. But, it's so bad. Screw it, I'm stopping at Endgame. Last movie of the MCU. You can't convince me otherwise.

[@chrisjohnson3967]

Thor should be treated like the badass he is. He's one of the strongest characters in the MCU, but instead we get this garbage. They disrespected him enough in Endgame but now the hits just keep on coming!

[@Joerogansnecksweat78]

Same with Storm and Rogue.

[@violetfem1808]

They seem to want to break into comedy now.. I can't even watch this character anymore. And what's up with Portman's oddly placed shirt cutouts - 😦😬

[@jeromeisaacs4428]

Marvel said they are going to make more Gay themed Films like Thor love and Thunder this Dumpster Fire is just the beginning, I'm out.

[@cringekiller348]

Thodi respected him more than fucker endgame. You are delusional

[@williamthompson5504]

Did you really expect something else? I’m so glad I’ve barely seen the MCU. It must suck to see something great get destroyed bit by bit. It happens with every other character. I’ve never seen Disney Star Wars either. The Incredibles 2 was enough for me. It was essentially a Mrs. Incredible solo movie and the male became an idiot.

[@kena5563]

What i hated the most was Gorr's character was presented too fast. Especially when Thor discovers the corpses of who Gorr killed. In the comics, Thor finding dead gods one by one was one the most chilling and memorable thing in that story. But instead they find it all out in a couple of screen swipes🤦

[@Zay-e5p]

That’s an amazing idea! Can you imagine if they came across a couple of Gods that had been killed and it would slowly cause dread for Thor and his team? That would’ve been strong storytelling but we were spoon fed it 🫠

[@fcsimo]

Yup the story arc was great. If I recall correctly Thor almost getting killed back in the 1700 or 1800s in a first encounter with this mysterious malevolent entity then meeting Gor again in present day after following the trail of dead gods across the realms. Being one step behind while the body count piles up. So much potential in a story line. Instead we get this movie.

[@alphonsusseketa6679]

Absolutely agree with you

[@AngelZaragosa]

I think Disney forced edits. The buried context of Gorr's tale is his realization that all religions are a lie. Taika Waititi is known to be an atheist as well as the original Gorr comic book creator, Jason Aaron. I don't think Disney wanted to have that controversy in the shadow of the LGBTQ rights pushback. The argument that organized religion is an irrational pursuit of one's limited lifetime is one hell of a fight to open up for discussion.

[@webbedshadow2601]

I will definitely read the comics sometime, from the comments I've seen it sounds like Gorr's story is pretty incredible

[@josephjohn5043]

I've been a hardcore MCU fan since it's inception. But lately i am becoming numb to it... I have reasons. 1. Each movie lacks an effective story. It's like they're making these movies for kids. MoM could've been much much more, so could Thor 4. But instead we got what we did. 2. The humor... I believe an MCU film can be very very good, even without the one liners/quips etc. It's reached a point where it feels forced/manufactured. 3. THE MESSAGE. Personally speaking, i don't know if I can survive another "both my fathers/mothers..." dialogue. It's shitty writing. A good story doesn't need to pander to socio-political agendas to be good. I know it's a pipe dream but i hope they change their M.O Gimme a good character, understandable motives, with gravitas, and a compelling growth arc. Not some dumb 2 dimensional comedy trope Thor + Gorr turned out to be.

[@salmasultana6258]

What do you think about the current dc movies?

[@calvinbarrett437]

@@salmasultana6258 I think they just absolutely suck and like people are going to these movies thinking that their characters that they beloved they have vested interest in and they're not the same characters and the people writing this don't give a shit about the characters they have no love for the characters they're making a movie about they don't know crap about them and they just basically abuse the character they give no respect to their creators they give no respect to the fans they shouldn't be making these movies because these movies just absolutely suck. Absolutely suck but I could go on each and every single movie and take it to pieces from Shang Chi to Captain Marvel the eternals absolutely sucks. The Black Panther films even the first black panther film was really wasn't all that god-awful bad it was nothing like it could have been. Doctor Strange I mean just really bad. Now they did have chemicals in there of course they changed his name. The Spider-Man movie wasn't bad. Macari from the eternals was supposed to be a derivative of the Greek god Mercury a fact that completely escapes the writers of this crap. Why did they decide to change the character into a woman? And this makes sense to who exactly? The goddess hella take stores hammer and shatters it with one hand really. In mythology her parentage is Loki in the comic books her parentage is still Loki however she's much older it was a discrepancy fixed by Loki traveling through time. In the movie She's Loki's sister yeah no. And her wolf garm hell is Wolf from mythology and from the comics and no in this one it is Fenris. This is almost as bad as those X-Men movies that they can't keep the continuity straight from one movie to the next. What is wrong with these people they have writing these things? Get off your woke high horse and give some respect to the people who made a product that is entrusted to you to carry on the torch has been passed instead of you carrying that torch you're putting it in the fucking ocean. And then you're not even taking responsibility for the bullshit that you're feeding the masses. Not just are you a sickening hypocrite you stand on the backs of giants touch the sky and all you do is take a shit on their heads. You take their life's work and you take the people that are in love with their wife's work that puts you in the position where you could carry this great thing on to Greater Heights. You insult the creators that came before you insult the fan base and then you act like everybody's supposed to love everything you do when you just simply suck. One of the woman said well if you don't like what we do don't read the book okay and that's why Marvel Comics is now going bankrupt. The fans have spoken we do not like what you do you suck and not in a good way.

[@kicknowledgesmith8608]

Yup you make good points. These movies are made for kids and tik tok. Its for content not quality. The Wednesday show is popular because of a dance. Also the main players in the mcu are dead are gone like Tony stark. Times have changed , social media has destroyed everything. The people in their 40s and 50s are the old people now. It’s just like when we were kids our parents complained about our clothes movies video games and music.

[@Yvanehtnioj2000]

I don’t find it ironic that the *ONLY* good Thor movie didn’t have Natalie Portman/Jane in it. Thor is so much better as a character without her, that’s how you know she’s absolutely horrible, and he had more chemistry with Valkyrie in 1 movie than he’s had with Jane in about 2/3. Not to mention his bromance with Loki is far more compelling and emotional and made for the vastly superior movie so Jane and Thor seem *EXTRA* lackluster by comparison. All in all, the character needs to be sidelined for good. I *TOLD* people Thor 4 would be atrocious before it was even released simply because the plot centered around Jane. We could’ve had Asguardians of the Galaxy but for WHATEVER reasons they decided to bring Jane, the most boring, uninspiring, and insipid character, back. And not just bring her back, make her have Thor’s power with his costume and hammer to match, and be slowly killed by it. SMFH

[@darthbiscuit]

Disney 101: Hire a man to direct modern-day mythology who is openly advocating for the destruction of mythology results will not surprise you

[@mrcliff3709]

Like hiring a extreme vegan to revamp texas roadhouse.

[@apocryphicdeath]

@@mrcliff3709 Or hiring men who think Star Wars is silly to direct the newest SW trilogy.

[@mrcliff3709]

@@apocryphicdeath yep that too

[@allthesmallthings1041]

Who?

[@brittscott4673]

Thor is a strong ,straight,white male character and Disney/ Marvel hates that. It's the same with Doc Strange. He was a secondary character in his own movie. They hate what they refer to as TOXIC MASCULINITY THIS IS THE MESSAGE THEY HAVE BEEN PUSHING FOR A WHILE NOW.

[@whiterabbit75]

You know, it's awfully ironic that Disney named their streaming service "D+", because that's the best grade I would give them these days.

[@MissMedeiros]

So true 🤣🤣

[@charliejohn1]

"Nail meet Thor's Hammer"

[@FMK03]

Honestly, I think I'd give them an F.

[@michaelrichards5340]

I thought he's was saying D+ as a joke to rank the movie

[@thatpatrickguy3446]

I think D+ is the pity grade they would get from the teacher who just wants to pass them so they won't have to see them in class again next year.

[@thedudeabides2531]

0:34: I can't believe Chris Hemsworth actually thought saying "Thor: Love and Thunder is the film a 7 year old would make" is a compliment. That's about the worst thing you can say about a film.

[@Canlass]

that was meant to be a complement i thought it was an insult

[@Fridaey13txhOktober]

@@Canlass It very well might be.

[@arezdracul8650]

Not a 7 year old would make, a 7 year old boy or girl would be smart enough to know not to make a movie like this, only a complete stupid fucking moron would make. Boycott Disney and all that they own, cancel D+ subscription and hurt them in the pocket book, Tis the only way we can truly say enough is enough!

[@andreasottohansen7338]

God, i hope it is him slipping an insult in, masking it as a compliment to get it past stupid people.

[@Manasseh62]

Maybe he was saying purely as a dig back at them for writing his character so poorly. Maybe he wanted a lot of things to be written as though by MORE than a mere 7 year old.

[@waelmagdy7757]

When you played the "Odin-Thor-Loki" scene I felt really sad! What the hell did they do to the characters?! It's astonishing how they had some of the best cast and lore on earth and ended up with this mess of a movie! Gotta give props to Christian Bale for such phenomenal acting skills though.

[@electronjunkie5697]

I am not saying I've stopped watching Marvel movies... But I sure as hell have stopped paying for these rushed, message filled tropes.

[@rbu2136]

It’s happening. I missed most of them in phase 4. Doc Strange was ridiculed for being a bad boyfriend and Thor gets the same treatment. Plus being the God of Dumb and Thunder.

[@thisisfyne]

Same. I still watch a few of them, and every time (No Way Home excluded) I tell myself I'm glad I didn't pay to watch that crap. Dr. Stange was particularly generic and dumb. Not sure I'll even bother with Love & Thunder. Ragnarok was terrible.

[@slipperysteve8]

I stopped watching every movie after the first Avengers film. I would watch a few of the movies as they came out (never in theaters) if they seemed interesting. But I lost total interest and couldn't get through civil war or black panther. I just didn't care anymore. Nothing in the movies felt new or interesting. The formula was the same and there were no stakes.

[@Sairah.Schmitz]

The problem is the writers / directors do not have any good story and just want to do something with characters. MUC now is telling stories badly, like we all understand how lonely Wanda is but MCU made us to hate her by showing her feelings in wrong way or making captain marvel a godlike woman with zero emotions. They now focus on lgbt, feminist and colors more than giving us a good well written stories and characters.

[@RumplestiltskinGaming]

The only one I paid to see was Spiderman. I think the only other movie I watched was Shang-chi on Disney+. As for the shows, I've only seen Loki.

[@EnsignRedshirtRicky]

A god that just happens to be standing beside a god killing sword... A hammer that Odin says only focuses Thor's power, and has none of it's own, yet gives Jane all Thor's powers anyway. I guess Taika forgot he made the last movie... A hammer that gets much more powerful/useful after it is broken, and fixes itself years later when it could have helped with the next point... Thor could not be bothered to stop Thanos before he snapped away the entire Universe (including Eternity itself)... Jane stole his armor style and color as well...

[@nigelyorkshiremanwadeley6263]

Now this is where I'm confused. I thought Mjolnir had the power and Thor was the conduit.

[@ris1989]

The hammer as you say focus Thor's powers, but it can also bestow the power of Thor to anyone who's worthy, so unconsciously Thor will power up anyone worthy that lifts the hammer, that's what happened to Captain America. The hammer got stronger because Thor himself got stronger, we never actually saw if Thor ever tried to wield the hammer after it was broken... Jane "stole" the armour, I don't know if the armour is somehow linked to Thor or if maybe he can conjure any armour he imagines and if that's the case, if Jane wanted a armour to fight probably the first idea would come to mind would be the first time she saw Thor powering up so it's only natural that the armour is similar...

[@Mridul.S]

Why are you putting so much effort analysing it when the makers didn't put while making it.

[@jithinff8686]

@@Mridul.S lol

[@FireJach]

“Whosoever holds this hammer, if they be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor.” - Jane did In Ragnarok he understands he is a god of thunder who uses the hammer to boost his powers. In Thor 1, he had his powers but didnt know that. Do you understand it now?

[@daniell1483]

The whole "King Valkyrie" is the most problematic part of the movie. The title of "king" is not somehow more prestigious than "queen", the titles denote the sex of the monarch. And to be clear, a monarch is the one who reigns. You can have a king with a queen consort, or you can have a queen with a king consort. By choosing the title of "king", Valkyrie is putting down the title of queen for absolutely no reason. Worse, it implies Valkyrie doesn't understand the meaning behind the title at all, wearing it like one would a costume. By implying king to be a superior title, it also implies queen is an inferior title.

[@martinkunz7155]

There's a real historic precedent for a female sovereign using the title King (actually the polish version of it) rather than queen to emphasize that she was actually the ruler, not just the consort of the ruler. So that makes sense more or less. But valkyrie doesn't deserve the title. She's a traitor and deserves a dungron cell. Or an execution - depending on how harsh asgardian laws for treason are.

[@Jeczman]

So Marvel meant that Queen Elizabeth from Britain, is inferior then ......

[@Minetic]

Disney thought they were being clever and putting down the patriarchy with that.

[@jovenc4508]

Because in the modern feminist mind anything men have is inherently better than what women have because "patriarchy". They cannot comprehend the notion of actual equality and only see legitimacy in male endeavors.

[@chrisjohnson3967]

Screw these companies, they hate us

[@jerkoardalic]

The fact that the writing team for Thor L&T didn't have the collective talent to name the ice cream shop "Infinity scones" shows just what caliber of writers we are dealing with.

[@tatersquad2000]

These actors will soon start to feel embarrassed for their participation in these films. It may take a few years, but it'll come.

[@chasehedges6775]

Indeed.

[@EnsignRedshirtRicky]

If Chris H. does not drink himself to sleep over Ghostbusters 2016, then I think the bags of money is making up for it. It is not as if they are Daniel Day Lewis. Though I can see Bale changing agents soon.

[@brianmeadows9639]

Yeah I’m sure that they’ll feel embarrassed for taking millions of dollars to make a movie that you paid to watch.

[@LL-hc3zm]

Just like any actor that was in a lot of other great films just to be in shittier films in the future. The Rock in Tooth Fairy, Ice Cube in Are We There Yet, Adam Sandler in Jack and Jill etc

[@nurityalieva3852]

Like ex Nickelodeon teens

[@Kraven83]

Taika's arrogance and self importance is so off the charts that he really deserves some massive failure to bring him down to earth.

[@KonekoneFukkatsu]

Sadly, he's of the right kind, and ticks far too many boxes, so there's no way they'll get rid of him. People in the club have to stick together and give each other handouts, after all...

[@chrisl3336]

His failure likely will be his Star Wars movie

[@scottjoseph9578]

I've never seen "JoJo Rabbit."

[@achyuththouta6957]

@@scottjoseph9578 It's just a rabbit

[@achyuththouta6957]

@@chrisl3336 Thor

[@joshwhite557]

When you think about what Thor has lost like it makes wandas yearning for her kids seem juvenile because imo he is the most shit on character in marvel right now. Lost his home, his brother who he just reconciled with, lost his father, lost his mother at a young age, and countless numbers of his people have died and yet they still treat his movies like comedies. Thor should be a deep character study not a comedy with how they've developed his character.

[@CJ-hx9du]

They made him get an eating disorder which was turned into a comedy angle.

[@sitcomchristian6886]

I don't know if "juvenile" is the word I'd go with, but that could be because I'm mother too. If I woke up today and realized my children had been a dream the whole time, I would need a LOT of therapy. It would wreck me. *That said* I completely agree that the producers/writers/directors seem to have zero empathy for Thor's journey, which as you illustrated is full of serious tragedy. And I don't think if a female character went through all that, that she would be treated like a joke. My piece.

[@jovenc4508]

@@CJ-hx9du I wouldn't say it was an eating disorder, but depression eating. He was responsible for the extinction of half the sentient life in the entire universe. I would think he'd be entitled to a little bit of depression.

[@CJ-hx9du]

@@jovenc4508 Point is, they shouldn't have turned it into a comedy angle.

[@jovenc4508]

@@CJ-hx9du I can kind of see why they did, hide the pain with humor, they just went too far with it.

[@LethallyReptarded]

I love how she even struggled to hold up the fake hammer during that press conference 😂😂

[@lar1382]

I'm surprised that the Norwegians haven't accused Marvel of "Cultural Appropriation" for taking their Norwegian mythology and distorting it to fit Marvel's agenda.

[@himathegreat2987]

I've talked with some of them on youtube, they say they don't care. Enough character assassination has been done of their deity. Initially they were hopeful, but seeing a comedian thor made them change their mind

[@lostmarimo]

you know Sweden were the last Pagans long after Norway and denmark turned christians. Don't call it the "Norwegian mythology" the disrespect lol

[@KrisRoberts114]

White culture is up for grabs mind this is partly cause it was adopted globally..

[@Holmesson]

lol, it's far from just Norwegians.. it's Danes, Swedes, Finns, Germans, Icelanders, Faroese, Greenlanders, North Americans and more. We don't bother with ridiculous accusations of cultural appropriation. We understand full well that the gods of old are characters of myth. Everyone tells different tales of the gods, their powers, their adventures, and so on. I've loved Marvel since I was a boy because they chose to use the gods we were told stories about as children and turned them into superheroes for newer generations to love and enjoy. It's an extension of our culture and an appreciation of our heritage made modern for broader audiences to learn about and enjoy. I highly suggest reading the Icelandic Eddas and Sagas! They're amazing and everyone interested should check them out!

[@boobah5643]

The stories are Christian adaptations of pagan stories, for the most part. Which is why Loki gets associated with the Devil; the monks who wrote the stories down had a very specific framework they wanted the story to fit in. That the bodges they wrote are enjoyable says a lot about how much better they were at storytelling than the modern zealots. Point is, most of Norse mythology is several layers removed from any Scandinavian culture.

[@reaperezekial5168]

Infinity War proved that Hemsworth has the chops to take an over-the-top concept like Thor and perfectly balance the humor and the heartbreak. Those scenes with him and Rocket talking about the stakes of Thor’s mission (immediately following a pinkeye joke concerning his new fake eye) are so so good. His epic hero moment at the Battle of Wakanda? Legend. And now reduced to a dumb clown incapable of doing anything on his own? Thanks, Disney. Thanks so much for that. Enjoy your dwindling returns, and let the fan blaming kick into high gear.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

Yeah, i agree. They should have made Thor darker and more serious in Endgame. He should have been an overprotective King, and married to Lady Sif. Then in the 4th film he has children of his own, and has to deal with Gorr.

[@angelicsailor1st]

The Thor in love and thunder is like the puppy we first met instead of who Thor should be by now with all his loved ones dying on him

[@martinportelance138]

@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Nah - the powerhouse role in Endgame had to land on Captain Marvel. Take that paunch, patriarchy.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

@@martinportelance138 I never really understood their rush to introduce her. Everything she did could have been done by someone else. Saving Tony, he should have just saved himself. Blasting through ships, Thor did the same in Infinity War. Holding her own against Thanos, again Thor did pretty good against him with the little time they interacted in Infinity War. Or they could have had Hulk slowly losing control over the movie, and Hulk out(World War Hulk style) and rematch Thanos.

[@frey8725]

@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp They had to shoehorn her in because Wonder Woman was a huge success. Marvel needed a strong Female hero with her own movie.

[@onehorseopensleigh]

10:27 THANK YOU. I don’t want my daughters and nieces believing the only way to be a strong woman is to be a man. That’s not feminism. That’s a bizarre form of sexism.

[@KrisRoberts114]

Well said👌

[@pyromaniac709]

Remember how strong hella was?

[@jasonmellone8902]

Tell them the truth there is no way to be a strong woman. Just be a woman. Women aren't needed for strength and have other qualities that are needed.

[@anothercat1300]

That's exactly what feminism is. If you want the ultimate strength of a woman, try the Holy Mother of God. a young woman who held the immeasurable God in her womb and gave him his humanity through her. She's not only considered the perfection of all humanity but she's also a slayer of demons and demonic ideologies like Feminism.

[@bigz2008]

I thought the whole point of feminism is that woman are capable and strong AS WOMAN. but turns out their idea of a strong woman is to be more like men, kinda ironic.

[@AJ-oz2ub]

I hate Disney. They should just make their own landfill company with the amount of garbage they turn out these days.

[@heraldofwar]

Looking back you realize how well Thor was portrayed in the first Thor movie and the first Avenger movie. We wont see a better version of Thor than Infinity War when he was serious, driven and a focused on taking out Thanos whatever it takes. Now hes just treated like a clown and only there for comic relief!

[@himathegreat2987]

Some ppl on internet are still rooting for the comedic thor. For gods sake, don't these ppl learn that disney has taken the essence of the character

[@sivad1025]

Yep, Thor 1, Avengers 1 and Infinity War are Thor's trilogy in my mind. They're perfectly cohesive if you accept that the events of Ragnarok happened off screen lol

[@chrisjohnson3967]

@@sivad1025 Agreed. Also, to me, Infinity War Thor was the standout character in that movie. That's saying a lot seeing all the other characters there. He's one of the strongest characters in the MCU, he should be treated as such.

[@chrisjohnson3967]

Thor should be treated like the badass he is. He's one of the strongest characters in the MCU and instead we get this garbage. I guess they didn't disrespect him enough in Endgame.

[@jordkinsmith3588]

Infinity war was the best marvel film by a country mile. Everything after sucked

[@mattbertrand9496]

To think that, at one time, my year would center around these movies and their releases. I would count down the days and HAD to be there for opening night. Now, I didn’t even know this had already been released. It’s so sad what agenda can do to beloved characters.

[@TheEverydayHomemaker]

So true!!!

[@stevekillgore9272]

I agree, that has been my experience, they lost me 4 years ago, Disney just sucks.

[@violetfem1808]

They want you to be like this - it's why they're doing it. It's not for us anymore, they have a target audience to indo ctrin ate

[@gonnacry4513]

What I really don't get is why again and again they're doing this. They are abvioisly not idiots who don't understand the public reaction. Be it through revenue or be it through thousands of Yt reviews or tweets calling them out on killing thier characters. Why are they not changing thier ways? Why kill your own buisness? I get it, even if they think it was worth a try to see wheather including wokeness works or not, then also, they've had thier trial run for years now. Never did it work. What the hell are they thinking?

[@alphonsusseketa6679]

Me too

[@alienlife7754]

The second I heard that Natalie Portman was getting the hammer I knew this was gonna be a woke disaster. How could it not be? She’s like what? Four feet tall and about 70 pounds soaking wet? And then they treat the star of the Franchise, the actual guy called Thor, like a running joke throughout the entire movie. This movie was just a studio approved “bash the men” project.

[@MrShadowSmith]

But she must be his "equal" in strength at all cost becsuse she is a woman despite the fact that Chris Hemsworth is like twice her size and thor is a god with thousands of years of experience while jane got powers for 2 minutes and she's somehow automatically as powerful as the og thor.

[@bobbyhulll8737]

@@MrShadowSmith someone doesn’t like comics ..

[@MrShadowSmith]

@@bobbyhulll8737 are you saying lady thor is better than thor in comics? 🤦🤦

[@bobbyhulll8737]

@@MrShadowSmith no I’m saying it was a story line on the comics as much as Thor becoming a Frog .. it’s a comic FFS anything can happen and anything can be reconned or redone or whatever .. it’s not a serious thing that needs to be dissected . There are many runs of Thor and every other character some you may like some you may not ..

[@lajeandom]

But Nath actually got buffed she has nice muscles in the movie she looks good...but yea she was good a bit too fast with her power it's like she knew everything already.

[@itsrightbehindyou]

This needed to be a more serious movie. Odin is dead. Rebuilding Asgard on Earth doesn't work. Thor should be tired, but tired of meaninglessness. He has to seek to rebuild a new kingdom somewhere in the universe, and make his father proud. He needed to be done being childish and needed to become a more serious actual leader. This is how he discovers new abilities. How to grant power to others. Etc. This was Thor's opportunity to learn how to be more than just muscle and brawn. He could become more strategic, wiser, more oriented to magic and control of his powers. An enhanced Thor who doesn't rely on strength, but actual power. And yet, secretly, off-screen, Gorr could develop as a looming threat because gods turn up dead everywhere, and no one actually knows why. So the arch for Thor is to discover his inner Odin, and beginning to search for a real, official, majestic and respected new Asgard. At the same time, Gorr looms as a thread. It's time for Thor to take his place as Odin. That's the arc. And his love interest would have been the first person he is able to embue with power, but the cancer is inevitable. Her death makes him really mature. Female Thor should have died SO quickly into the movie. Instead, they made him a dumb, ridiculous bro who now cares for a child. So much could have been cut. And Christian Bale should have been kept as a Thanos figure, who kills gods left and right. He could have shown his growing strength killing amazing looking gods, showing that a fight against Thor could turn up deadly. Dammit! There was so much that could have been done differently, and yet we ended up with crap. 😖

[@lordoftheflicks7981]

What’s most upsetting about this movie is they had everything they needed to make a great movie, even with the inclusion of “mighty thor”

[@pietropes1322]

Yep - but then how would the director get to make endless misplaced lame jokes every 2 minutes.

[@maxmazzotti6651]

This film was fine in most ways, but not great. Hoping the next film gives us Hercules, Ares, and Beta Ray Bill tho. BTW nerdrotic, Star Trek Strange New Worlds doesn’t suck.

[@mattwalsh7853]

The movie was fantastic you expect so much

[@random22453]

Female Thor. That's what she is. Nothing else. Her purpose was to only push Disney's agenda

[@bitterangels4001]

@@mattwalsh7853 Just wondering what your favorite kool aid is ?

[@JamieHitt]

Thor was a hopeless clown. Zeus was a pathetic clown. The “bolt” weapon was a joke. Gorr was anemic. The plot evaporated into stupidity. And the goddamn goats were annoying af.

[@dontgiveinfo]

i told you not to pay to go see it. oh well. next time

[@carlitosbro]

The goats were the best part.

[@himathegreat2987]

Many ppl defending on the zeus part, I'd like to say mcu zeus didn't have to be mythology accurate. Snyder Cut Zeus was a badass even for 15 seconds, why can't disney do the same with a LEGENDARY actor like Russel Crowe

[@himathegreat2987]

@@carlitosbro neither in marvel comics nor in norse mythology were those goats like that

[@SteveHandlebar]

I wish I could give you 10 thumbs up

[@x511100x]

This movie is afraid to take itself seriously, it undercut every emotional scene with cheep humor

[@Americium-120]

You just described all of new Marvel pretty much.

[@JexeonTV]

I would really like to know the thoughts of female comic collectors of the late 80s to early 90s on how they feel how this MCUniverse is headed

[@Raven270969]

All none of them🤣🤔

[@indiajohnson]

I don't read much comics and the ones I mostly read were X-Men but I have an older brother & some friends that have and disappointment abounds. I'm glad that I didn't actually watch this movie, just reading about it and watching this video helped me make up my mind.

[@leohawk776]

@@Raven270969 they exist, and they are also disappointed, believe that. As a woman friend that collects comics once said, "The women taking over these places now used to make fun of me in high school. They are a bunch of 'pick me' people doing whatever it takes for 2 seconds of 'fame' and a whole lifetime of persecution from the people they used to bully for liking the stuff they are ruining." You know, people like Amandla Stenberg, or Lesbian Headlice.

[@benbarrera512]

Nathalie Portman’s body language says it all. When asked about it being the gayest movie in the MCU, she turns her face to the side when she answers the interviewer. You can tell she wasn’t expecting that question and looked a bit uncomfortable while she momentarily struggled to find the right words. If she had said anything negative about it, she would’ve absolutely been “cancelled.”

[@meal_team_six]

Don't be fooled - Natalie full on supports all of it. She is part of the problem not the solution.

[@ragnari9368]

She should have replied No, but this is the gayest interview I have done.

[@wesleyw642]

how is representation a problem in movies…

[@benbarrera512]

Representation becomes a problem when a good strong and beloved character like Thor is undermined and marginalized in his own movie in order to prop up the represented characters.

[@randobad]

I want Mel Gibson's Apocalypto to be full of blonde haired, blue-eyed characters portraying the Mayans, wouldn't that be cool? Let's just totally change history and give them guns to them while we're at it. They can fight the Spanish conquistadors and win change the whole outlook of the Americas.

[@LembeckIsStaying]

And have them throw coffee into the Gulf of Mexico. 🤣

[@punishedmatteson7108]

I can't wait for Ryan Gosling to play MLK or Nick Cage to play George Floyd. Actually, Nick Cage would be amazing as George Floyd.

[@i.4693]

@@punishedmatteson7108 boooo bad comment. Makes no fucking sense… try again brother 😂

[@sugreev2001]

Modern Apocalypto would only be green lighted if the cast is only Blacks and gays.

[@eddthehead123]

@@i.4693 Nick Cage would make an amazing George Flyod.

[@jayjeckel]

I love it. Jane getting the hammer and calling herself Thor is like Pepper Potts putting on an ironman suit and calling herself Tony Stark.

[@myeshareynolds9624]

Identity crisis & identity theft.

[@RisingUnderdog]

Mighty Tony

[@dragonitekai746]

@@RisingUnderdog Mighty shit

[@peterparker9954]

She calls herself Jane Foster in the climax while fighting Gorr

[@deadlyninja112]

Oh wait

[@jakeseifried6819]

As a straight white male I can tell this movie is not for me. 😂😂😂

[@b.c.akathenewdarkeclipse]

Kevin Feige is running the entire franchise to the ground, All because he wants to impress the wrong type of "people" that don't buy nor care about any of these things

[@JohnSmith-yd5wq]

You're a fool

[@Babycam08]

THIS RIGHT HERE!! THIS COMMENT IS PERFECT ANALYSIS OF WHAT IS WRONG WITH MARVEL IN A NUTSHELL!! BRAVO! FIRE KEVIN FEIGE & KEEP TAKAI WITI FAAAAAAR AWAY FROM A MARVEL MOVIE!!! SICK OF KORG! HATE THAT ANNOYING GAY ASS CHARACTER!

[@j4nk3n]

These people just want everything in existence to be LGBTQIA+++ cranked up to 11, they don't care to be involved or pay to see it, they just demand it be that way, because demanding is free, complaining on social media is free, and ruining peoples live who don't agree is also free

[@robmartin1691]

Yep. It was execs such as Ike Perlmutter that was keeping Feige on a leash all those years of building MCU greatness. Now, Feige is unleashed and is a disaster.

[@petriew2018]

*has run it's already fiat accompli. The MCU is basically beyond salvage at this point, there is nothing left with any consequences

[@QuinTooEpic]

If someone is fighting you while your trying to save them from drowning its better to let them go so one of you can survive. That is what we need to do to Disney

[@chrisjohnson3967]

I would hope people can cut the cord. I did, no more D+ for me

[@kirkyorg7654]

ya am already pushing them under with an oar fk saving them lol

[@Red_Lanterns_Rage]

yes......though I say we need to go one step further and pile on the stones so they sink faster...... what was it Deckard said?? ahh yes, if they're a benefit then they aren't my problem and Disney is a great threat...... Elden Tyrell: is this to be an empathy test??..... lolz you can call me highly Anti-Disney lol

[@LennerPOPPADOPALIS89]

@@chrisjohnson3967 canceled my subscription last week.

[@whenpigsfly8178]

@@Red_Lanterns_Rage Can you really pile the stones on them faster than they're doing to themselves already?

[@laylahazard3919]

I really like Watiki’s “What we do in the shadows”. That said they should’ve never let him direct a massive super hero movie. Not his lane at all.

[@jasonmellone8902]

Ragnarok was ok.

[@benjaminroque1981]

@@jasonmellone8902 ragnarok was ok for a sitcom...

[@GameBeatenakaKevinS]

@@benjaminroque1981 I'm really starting to think I should rewatch the first two Thor movies. I recall listing those on the lower end of the MCU films (for the first three phases anyway), but I liked Ragnarok best. This is despite the film having a weird tone and Thor going in and out of character, between acting like "Thor" and "Chris Hemsworth goofing around."

[@golfnz34me]

He's great at comedy, see JoJo Rabbit and Wellington Paranormal as examples.

[@aka-47k]

@@GameBeatenakaKevinS funnily i disliked ragnarok, esp dr benner, his smile was just wrong in that cgi.

[@carlosalberto2339]

Two caracters destroyed in MCU: Thor and Hulk. RIP.

[@tommyvercetti3263]

as a Marvel fan since the 90's i am disgusted by the way they are doing these beloved characters just so they can introduce their personal agenda

[@Vertical_Horizons]

"Where's the money, Sonny!?"

[@robotzvsfolks1559]

"Does anyone in the MCU have sons anymore" ? Lol, great question. And as your video pointed out at the end, looks like the directors threat was actually a promise

[@GustEdgeOfficial]

Hawkeye

[@whenpigsfly8178]

No, they're all transitioning.

[@sapphiro]

Inthepreviousmarvelmovie Wanda had 2 sons...

[@NiteF0X]

@@sapphiro fake make believe sons don’t count.

[@larrybird9340]

They HAD some then brought them for a sex change

[@olivercrespo2329]

It felt super clear Hemsworth is tired of the role after RDJ and Evans have moved on. Wouldn’t be surprised if we just silently never see him again.

[@tsdobbi]

" Hemsworth is tired of the role" Hemsworth literally said as long as they want him he will stay. If he's tired of the role, he can just like...stop.

[@Dragonage2ftw]

“Deconstructed Thor.” That word has 0 meaning when you use it. You don’t know what it means.

[@ProjectV6]

The MCU ended with Endgame...seriously, it's fucking dead now.

[@anubusx]

Infinty War for me.

[@Raccon_Detective.]

@@anubusx Agreed, That was the end of quality movies because Endgame was satisfying mess.

[@himathegreat2987]

@@anubusx yes , but endgame kinda bid proper goodbyes

[@petriew2018]

@@himathegreat2987 at the expense of burning the universe to the ground...

[@Heikkiman]

I couldn’t stop thinking Taika Watiti’s ” I will ruin your mythos in a minute, baby.” Comment when watching this film. Axl or Astrid, Heimdall’s son has a womans name and it is called ”a tough viking name” by Thor and it bugged me so much ( in addition to pretty much everything in the deciption asgardians). Astrid means a beautiful goddes or devine beautiful, not a name for a tough viking for sure, but also female name given to girls even in modern days. Such lack of respect or research just leaves a feeling that Watiti really kinda wants to ruin the mythos and has no respect for scandinavian culture. Especially when put together with everything else in the film and the comment. Also since when asgardians refer to themselves as space Vikings.

[@J1283-s1k]

Mate he literally did that to a T. He was absolutely determined to do it, the prick.

[@frey8725]

I noticed that, but considering Heimdall was supposed to be the "Whitest skinned of the gods", him having a boy with a girl's name doesn't really matter anymore.

[@dahuterschuter]

What a surprise that one of the most unpopular Marvel ideas in the comics turned out to be incredibly unpopular in film too.

[@chalkywhite2598]

It made 300 million dollars

[@tomatoesauce8605]

Is this what the world has come to. 300 million dollars is "unpopular"...

[@jacobnebel7282]

@@chalkywhite2598 No, it _sold $300M worth of tickets._ Subtract from that the theaters' cuts of ticket prices (about half), the production budget (250M), and the marketing budget (100M+). That means love and blunder is still a loss. It has to make about 700 million just to break even.

[@chalkywhite2598]

@@tomatoesauce8605 people who say dumb shit look and sound ridiculous

[@chalkywhite2598]

@@jacobnebel7282 what kind of dumb ass math is that. No film has to make 700 million dollars to break even. If that was the case the MCU would have died after the first Captain America. It cost 200 million and made 375 million. Was captain America first avenger a flop?

[@TheFlanker47]

Idiots who complain about the movie being to funny are the same idiots who gave Bad reviews to Thor Dark world for being to Dark and serious.

[@grandarkfang_1482]

Also, if any of the embarrassment Thor had gone through in this film had happened to Jane or Valkyrie, they would have killed Zeus before he had a chance to flick. And the audience would be clapping over toxic masculinity being beaten, or some shit. I hate Phase 4.

[@garym6315]

Ugh, Thor imbues his power to the ethnically diverse children of Norse mythology. I've never seem such a meta "YOU kids watching this can be the hero too, regardless of how you look or what you identify as." How about no? I'm sick of this sort of self referential shit, from Darcy being a fan of the avengers, to Kamala being a fan of the Avengers, and then seeing all the general public squeeing over the Avengers in each new product. I want to see heroes, not people idolising heroes.

[@dontgiveinfo]

Asgard has to have diversity, BUT not Wakanda!!!! no!! that is not racist. i guess. Cuz norse mythoolgy has chinese, black, and indian ppl. but WAKANDA better not have that

[@kmotch]

Nothing says Nordic like black kids…

[@GamesandNonsenseUnleashed]

Didn't you know, anything all white- even history is racist and evil and must be given "diversity".

[@no_player_commentary]

Its a marvel comic F all this ethic crap you know thats not important if this was the northman a pretty decent film sure you got a point, but when did we have time travel machines, aliens & robot gods in norse mythology if you can let that slide who cares.

[@no_player_commentary]

@@dontgiveinfo Was wakana in the middle of africa or was it in a different plane/dimension? thats a stupid point. Secondly on that topic this fantasy asgard is now accesible to anyone, secondly Heimdall was black in the first film like a decade+ ago you still going to be bitch whining 20 years from now? If the BP sequel has every single color living in wakanda your still going to be bitching.

[@martinphilps9484]

The jokes didn’t land, there was no entertainment value to the film & I saw groups of people leave during the movie. Never thought that would happen in a Marvel film.

[@0volts157]

The only reason I would watch this thing is to see Bale's performance.

[@tsohgallik]

@@0volts157 Christian Bale facial acting is played out , honestly. Watch his stuff in American Psycho, Batman... His acting fizzes out.

[@BIGNA281]

Damnnn

[@SnobbyBird_]

When Chris Hemsworth is naked, everybody laughs But replace Chris with a woman. Would they be laughing?

[@diagonals792]

4:55 - when they referred to the warriors 3 as "that guy" I was genuinely upset. these were Thor's closest friends and allies, just to be written off like that. so lazy and disrespectful for no reason 6:20 - it was painfully annoying that as soon as they decide to go to omnipotent city, there just happens to be a giant council of the Gods happening?? like.. what? mighty convenient? 7:43 - Valkyrie should have died here! fight scenes mean nothing if no one can be hurt or die from them.

[@KevvoLightswift]

I do find it odd that Gary didn't mention the fact they actually sacrificed Natalie Portman's character instead of just having Thor pass the mantle onto her permanently. He was worried about that in a previous video, and predicted that's what would happen. I for one am glad to hear they had the balls to kill her. Woman rarely physically sacrifice themselves in superhero movies anymore, because it makes them look "weak" (newsflash: no it doesn't).

[@IBLIZA23]

@@KevvoLightswift the sacrifice was messy IMO. We aren't given details what the cancer is doing and whether it is reversible. It was left very vague. Why does Mjolnir call out to her under the pretext of looking after her if using the hammer just kills her quicker? Doesn't that contradict the enchantment? Also why wasn't Thor able to put together the hammer anyways as it shows that he's still worthy. All these issues could have easily be solved if they spent a day trying to figure out how to convey some logic in their writing.

[@MrShadowSmith]

@@IBLIZA23 I believe the reason why thor didn't go back for mjiolnir because he needed a "thanos killing" weapon which mjiolnir wasn't. An axe is better for killing than a hammer is in every way. And we already saw mjiolnir is only able to stun thanos it doesn't do any visible damage. SB on the other hand is able to cut him. Also he probably thought mjiolnir is gone since it's broken it was definitely lying there useless when hela broke it (until Jane magically brought it back) . So that makes sense. Other than I agree with you

[@Myrdden71]

Yeah, where were all of these 'gods' when Thanos was running rampant?

[@bagbunny]

I'm still confused on how she is 'female' Thor. Is it really that hard to come up with a brand new name for Jane the super hero?

[@nurityalieva3852]

Thrane

[@M-S_4321]

Janeor?💪

[@PotatoOnAQuest]

Exactly! You could do something like Eric Masterson, he became his own superhero: Thunderstrike!

[@moonlitskylight5740]

"Is it really that hard?" Yes, it is. Look at the movie we're talking about.

[@grisflyt]

Adding the letter A would make it feminine. Tora is a Scandinavian name, from Tor. Tore is also a Scandinavian name. Masculine variation on Tor, which already is masculine. You can't randomly add A and E to Scandinavian names. There's no masculine form of Tona as far as I know. But it works with Tor.

[@richardcerbini3257]

The first ten years of Marvel and growing to care about the characters and loving how the casting of the leads was spot on 99 percent of the time made you a true fan. Now it seems they think we will just plunk down our money out of loyalty. They have ruined Marvel for so many of us. Stan Lee is spinning in his grave. Excelsior indeed.

[@richardidananyavor5347]

The "Female Thor" at the end cracked me up. I'm glad I waited to the last second.

[@TbagsPS]

5 years ago I was a literal superfan for the mcu, I saw every one of them in theater upon release, they were always super entertaining movies. Disney has taken all of that magic away from the mcu and replaced it with girl power, diversity hires and thier gay agenda. 5 years ago a superfan, today I couldnt be less interested. The Hawkeye series was the final nail in the coffin for me, I haven't watched anything mcu (aside from no way home, go figure) since and don't plan to unless its the endlessly rewatchable paramount mcu movies.

[@johnmaxwell3526]

I agree, the world has gone girl power, not just mcu, the dceu has gone woke too

[@SolidPain6624]

Thor “love is love”

[@CrazyGamer-zf1be]

Why was the Hawkeye series the final nail in the coffin? All it did was introduce Kate Bishop, who was already a character in the comics. You can’t even say girl power for that either, because she messed things up more than she helped in that show.

[@Cedisdead]

Yeah I also liked marvel movies before they sold out. Disney Marvel and all their brainless woke avengers crap makes me sick

[@rayneoverrated7295]

@@CrazyGamer-zf1be Because it was garbage from start to finish?

[@avoxprime9562]

Dumbest thing about this movie was the ending. It summarized the whole movie. Thor and Gorr are in the realm of eternity and he has every reason to save a dying Jane Foster whom he loves and says it the whole film. Then, he lets her die because he just "couldn't deal with Gorr" like wtf. He is the God of Thunder and has lost so much. Now he loses his one love in the universe and my respect for the character. They just replaced Jane with some stupid kid.

[@ricardoredway]

yup the ending was definately the worst part

[@avoxprime9562]

@Trump Junior Also stupid, but Korg is forgettable in this film. The ending was probably among the worst I've ever seen.

[@aclevername7613]

I still will refuse to go along with the idea of "king" valkyrie. She IS A WOMAN AND WOULD BE CALLED QUEEN. KING IS A MALE RULER. This is not hard to get and as such calling her king is just inane.

[@eeveeofalltrades4780]

When the "King Valkyrie" thing came up in Endgame I thought it was just a joke on how Thor was king and Valkyrie would replacing him as the "king", I didn't think they'd go through with it as serious.

[@anothercat1300]

The King and Queen dynamic is an Icon male and female relationships. It reveals the power and divinity of the relationship and is what cultures centered themselves around for countless centuries... In a feminist world a Queen serves no other function than to be a trophy piece for a Tyrant. This insane presupposition and antagonism for the natural relationship between men and women is a bunch of chauvinistic ideologues telling you that there's nothing different between King and Queen, that the relationship between men and women means nothing and that men and women serve no purpose or mean anything. It's no wonder people hate this stuff. That gut feeling you get is your intuition telling you something true about the world.

[@locomadman]

King Mary of Hungary, King Raziya of the Delhi Sultanate, and King Jadwiga of Poland would be so terribly disappointed that their rules would be denied by some random modern-day keyboard warrior who’s name won’t be remembered in century.

[@aclevername7613]

@@locomadman Not denying their rule just not going to use a male term for a male ruler on a female. I'll call them queen sure. Somehow i also doubt they would care given they are long since passed. I hardly care if my name won't be remembered. Given enough time nobody is remembered as time erases all.

[@kenneth6102]

MCU: King Valkyrie because King is a higher title than Queen. Queen Elizabeth II of The United Kingdom: Am I a joke to you?

[@l33tninj4studios]

I honestly think they should have stopped after Endgame. They spent a decade building up that story and will not be able to hold an audience with crap like this to do it again. That and people are just naturally growing tired of super hero flicks.

[@RumplestiltskinGaming]

I feel a little bit of that. I didn't really mind that they wanted to continue though, because there were characters that got introduced late and didn't get a lot of solo stuff; Spiderman, Ant-man, Doctor Strange. But instead of building phase 4 on these characters we're more familiar with from before, they seem more focus on crapping on the old to push the new. That, and how in this era of streaming services seems like it has to constantly pump out new stuff without much breathing room in between. Those have been some of my issues on my lack of interest anyway.

[@bigg1288]

Real fans will never get tired of movies with characters they have loved their whole lives when those characters are done right.

[@chrisjohnson3967]

I agree. They kind of out-wrote themselves with the Infinity Stones Saga buildup. It would be hard to match that excitement again. That being said, it's still not an excuse for them to turn out lazy garbage like this. It's just them showing their true colors on what types of films they actually want to make.

[@whenpigsfly8178]

Doesn't bother me, let them drain their coffers chasing the dragon.

[@SlashTheWeasel]

I think that they could have done something more like work on the X-Men and Fantastic Four along with some other Marvel properties from the start of the story.Take couple of years and just work on the over arching storyline.

[@demgreens]

Remember when Kenneth Brannaugh directed Thor and actually made Chris Hemsworth and Tom Hiddleston do real dramatic acting?

[@belaytriks]

Most people dislike it. I liked it a lot.

[@demgreens]

@@belaytriks Thor 1 wasn't the best movie but I could at least appreciate the effort being made back then. Now it looks like something we would never see in the MCU.

[@Major003]

I really miss that. It cemented Loki as such a well-loved character for a reason, also thanks in no small part to Tom Hiddleston's incredible acting skills.

[@theunknowncommenter725]

Kenneth should have directed the whole trilogy.

[@wallaroo1295]

*Why did they need to make a "Female Thor" when the Norse Mythologies have Freyja and other female badasses already?!* I guess Marvel doesn't owe any trademarks on Freyja...

[@moonlitskylight5740]

Because the name Thor guaranteed an audience.

[@himathegreat2987]

Something had to be sold in the name of thor

[@dimitrythomas4158]

Because it happened in the comics

[@eddthehead123]

They even had a badass warrior woman closely related to Thor in the MCU called Sif! Fucking use her!

[@-Siculus-Hort-]

because they want to destroy everything you like. they are communists. sorry.

[@royrogers4732]

I don't think drama is needed in any type of storytelling one of the stupidest arguments I've ever heard in my life

[@stephenblack5425]

Gorr is a very dark villain and such dark villain didn't fit in the happy and comedy tone of love and thunder. It felt like watching the Undertaker in Hannah Montana.

[@donkeysaurusrex7881]

Undertaker and Kaine vs Miley Cyrus and Hannah Montana to main event Wrestlemania

[@stephenblack5425]

@@donkeysaurusrex7881 😂

[@tekservices8699]

It’s a shame, these could be amazing movies. Chris Hemsworth embodies the Thor character and got huge for this movie. Despite Christian bale not looking like Gorr, I thought his portrait (short tho it may have been) was really good. Just needed more screen time and a slower build. It’s weird that they made it a slap stick/rom com but, fine.. The pacing was really off. This felt like a true little kids movie

[@chrisjohnson3967]

It really is sad that they can be better movies. Good thing I have other things going on in my life than the newest movie. But in all honesty, I miss looking forward to going to see a Marvel film.

[@garyburton5693]

I will probably see other marvel movies but now after Dr Strange 2 and this one I won't get excited about another. This was a TERRIBLE movie, just terrible.

[@tomatoesauce8605]

Really, you expect them to have Christian Bale with head tentacles. You're just nit-picking because you have to find some way to damage Marvel...

[@tekservices8699]

@@tomatoesauce8605 hey tomatoeSauce “ketchup” with the convo! No one cares about his tentacles. Him and and the rest of the cast felt like they were in two different movies

[@IBLIZA23]

Exactly. I've been saying for most of phase 4 and new star wars is that all the story potential highpoints are actually good but the journey to get there and living in the climax is horrible. It feels like a good writer gives out plot points to cover and a bunch of half baked writers are left to put it all together. For example in this Thor movie; Stage 4 cancer sacrifice + a literal God butcher who should parallel Lady Thor in terms of what Gods have done for them is amazing material. In the end we only saw 1 god killed, made no connection to how the gods overlooked Gor's devotion and suffering but the Gods blessed Jane instead. Plus the cancer element was not emotionally deep at all.

[@evildoughboy7773]

Thor went from having his hero's journey arc completed to having it ripped away from him and has been pissed on ever since. Of course, him being emasculated was all part of the plan anyway.

[@chrisjohnson3967]

True, definitely part of the plan. And that's where the evil of these large companies comes in. They know exactly what they're doing

[@OsellaSquadraCorse]

*arc *emasculated Just for the future ref, completely agree on the comments tho :)

[@evildoughboy7773]

@@OsellaSquadraCorse yeah I fixed it. It's kind of hard to proofread while driving.

[@lukeyznaga7627]

And I am still hoping that the stone troll Gork or what ever his name [Kort? he is the large blue rock comedian with awsful jokes ] and Valkyrie are indeed killed. that would be great. Don't bring back Valkyrie and lady Thor and the comedian rock being Kort

[@OsellaSquadraCorse]

@@evildoughboy7773 haha, love it! ;)

[@llywyllngryffyn8053]

Let's have a moment of Silence for the MCU: May 2, 2008 -- Apr 26, 2019... Rest In Pieace

[@nazeersadek6705]

Your review saved me from actually going to the cinema to watch this. I had a suspicious Disney will find a way to mess this up and unfortunately I was right

[@garystrittmater8258]

Thanks, me too!

[@SuperEnforcer88]

Waititi, the man who wanted to deconstruct Thor.

[@himathegreat2987]

"i will ruin your mythos in a minute baby" - director of the film

[@SuperEnforcer88]

@@himathegreat2987 so he ruined this movie.

[@anothercat1300]

@@himathegreat2987 Imagine telling your audience that you want to ruin the story they care about with not only a smugness' but with a celebratory attitude? imagine the kind of person you must be to commit such an act on someone? I'm never watching anything this director makes again.

[@Majojobigo]

Thor dumb and dumber will forever be how this movie is referred to, at least by me

[@SKnight1968]

I'm a old Gen-X and grew up reading comic books and yes, I'm one of those guys who started collecting comic books in the mid 70's and my collection was way above average back then and even more so by today's market. It contained many early 60's to late 60's and so on with around 4000 to 5000 comic books and all 1st and direct print editions with some specifics issues I hunted down through the decades with many hundreds at least worth a 1000 times their weight in gold. I said "I had" because I passed it on to my son as a family heirloom in 2012 when he came of age. Of course the jewel of my collection was/is "Journey into Mystery #83 graded 9.4 by CGC" which was the comic book that got me hooked on THOR right there and then when I was old enough to read. Of course that comic book wasn't a collectible item as it was I don't know how many reprints it was. But when I came of age and had the means, I hunted them all down, any direct 1st print editions. I am a Marvel purist and especially when it comes down to THOR and I can recount almost every runs/story lines off the top of my head and can point you to the right books for the facts you're looking for and/or specific story lines by just you giving me a hint about what you're looking for. From the origins even to this day with the Donny Cates run going on right now. So, that's enough for setting up the context on how and why I know what I am talking about when it comes to the Marvel character of THOR and as to why I hated this movie so much. The character of THOR appeared in a total of 8 MCU movies including 4 of his own. Again, being that THOR made the majority of my golden eggs among my collection and the most complete above all other Marvel/DC various character runs. Seeing how the MCU portrayed THOR in the MCU is heartbreaking and It pains me to see kids (young millennials and Gen-Z) these days not knowing their Marvel characters other than what the MCU/Kevin Feige feeds/tells them in their movies and they never picked up a comic book in their lives. The MCU completely destroyed and retcon the Marvel character of THOR. They made him a buffoon, a comic relief, a dumba$$, weakling, a dimwit and totally nerfed him power and abilities wise. The MCU character is night and day from the comic book version. THOR Ragnarok, Avengers: End Game and now this latest THOR love and thunder movie, have completely made a mockery of the great Marvel character of THOR. Taika Waititi directed the two worse films of THOR and this man should never come within a thousand yards of anything THOR related future projects. This THOR Love And Thunder is a big joke from start to finish and it pains me to see one of Stan Lee's greatest characters used in such ways that he must be rolling in his grave right now. Me who thought that no new THOR movie could ever be as bad or worse than THOR: Ragnarok, then Taika Waititi comes along, proves me wrong and surpasses himself by directing his second piece of sh*t THOR movie. Katherine Kennedy destroyed "Star Wars" and "Luke Skywalker", so much so that this hit Disney hard. And now, they are letting this happen again by having bad writers and even worse directors. Katherine Kennedy was/is the doom of "Star Wars". While "Kevin Feige is turning into Katherine Kennedy" and "Taika Waititi" is the "Rian Johnson" version of Marvel. You want to know who the real Marvel Thor is, pick up a few comic books from the golden age up till the Donny Cates run going on right now, That's the real Thor, King and All-Father of Asgard.

[@qbreaker77sub82]

Saw Thor: Love and Thunder last night. One of the worst movies I have seen in a long time. The movie theatre AC was also out which even led to the more cringe-worthiness of the movie, making the environment in the theatre as uncomfortable as the movie made me feel. Marvel is dying and I am done!

[@garyburton5693]

@Cool Dude I thought Eternals was 10X better than this. Disney made a hard push there on the gay agenda though and isn't slowing down. I guess they finally found a way for 2 males to have a baby.....just hold hands for 30 days over a lava pit and bam, you have a baby.

[@tonyknighton4019]

@@garyburton5693 🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@JohnDoe-ug3su]

A story about someone battling stage 4 cancer is a guarantee tearjerker, except this one. I think if Disney just make the story about Thor and Jane struggle to find a cure for her cancer and their final option is going to the magic wishing well, it would have been a more grounded touching story

[@mark-lk9vi]

First you guys get her to move away from the movies since you mcu hating mother fuckers COMPLAINED about dark world, THEN you guys complain that it's WOKE and that she shouldn't have the title of THOR. So what does she do? She does this one last movie to completely move away from the mcu and then YOU COMPLAIN THAT SHE DOESNT FUCKING SURVIVE??? 🤣

[@chantor9760]

Time travels. Space travels. Advanced asf technology capable to create organic life. Intergalactic tehnology, super serums, magic beyond imagination. Multiverse, celestials etc etc but not cure for cancer yet.

[@abdulghaffarkhanmiankhail6747]

Yeah I strongly agree

[@darthmom1019]

I'm fighting stage 3 breast cancer. Had my double mastectomy on June 27th. This movie is an insult to me & others fighting breast cancer.

[@JohnDoe-ug3su]

@@darthmom1019 *internet hug* keep up the fight yeah, this movie could have been a representation for the warriors out there fighting cancer, but no, they just used cancer as a mcguffin awful... really awful

[@Deere5]

Love the accurate cgi portrayal of Natalie Portman’s arms at the very beginning of the video. I hope there’s a bootleg fan edit of this movie with that arm edit.

[@random__joe]

Haha that would be pretty amusing

[@JohnSmith-yd5wq]

Get a life. Funny how you pretend that CGI isn't used on the male actors.

[@JohnSmith-yd5wq]

BAYDUH

[@tnkklr2011]

Trogdor Jane

[@briangbur8743]

Natalie Dorkman

[@ComaTurtle]

In fairness, Zeus being a giant douchebag is pretty true to Greek mythology. Actually, Thor being kind of a dumbass is also true to his mythological roots. Not so much to the comics, but eh.

[@kermita12]

Just saw this abomination today. I lost count of the number of times I was shaking my head and muttering FFS...Thor Odinson, who has been alive and "around" for a couple of thousand years reduced to comic relief. Waititi has no place directing any further Marvel movies, my favourite comedic relief was the screaming goats. Other than that, way too many jokes. And wow, how fortunate that all of the children were "worthy". Seems like everyone's worthy these days, "you can be Thor, you be Thor, here you be Thor". So the "villain" ends up winning and making a "heroic sacrifice", after a temporary and newly powered female Thor makes a heroic sacrifice, while the titular main character spent most of the movie as lovelorn comic relief. And we are meant to accept this pathetic version of Zeus and the nonsensical reasons for refusing to help? and for crying out loud that Hercules in the post credit scene.... Belch.... The actor may have played a "football hardman", but he does not have the physique to be Hercules. Marvel movies going forward, if they're like this are a lost cause.

[@sircasino614]

Being worthy comes down to being brave and noble, also humility as he needed that in the first one to get it back. His speech made them the first 2. If you keep Thor too serious, you end up with the second Thor movie. After learning earth customs and hanging around the Guardians of the Galaxy for awhile, he's in higher spirits and you could say masks his pain with with it. Not everything in Marvel has to be dark and gloomy. You get a little of everything now.

[@bryancox482]

Great review, you nailed it. made me very sad though. Collecting hundreds of Thor comics over two decades and anticipating something great, we get total disrespect for Thor and the universe Marvel (and Walter Simonson, my favorite Thor writer) created. MsheU is depressing. Only bright spot was the death of imposter Valkyrie. Taika Waititicaca is a bore and a dope, epic fail. Bring back director Kenneth Branagh, at least he respected the source material.

[@PathOfRage]

She's not dead...she got ran through by "thunderbolt" and should have died. But Thor asked her if she was okay back at New Asgard, and she said yeah, she just lost a kidney.

[@GodsReaperMan]

It''s a shame because I absolutely love the Guardians Of The Galaxy movies, but using those to inspire THIS dumpster fire of a movie is a horrible sin to say the least.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

At least Guardians could balance the comedy with emotional depth. No jokes when Yondu died, the allowed you to feel it. Ragnorak was just a straight up comedy. Asgard is destroyed, and Korg has to make a joke.

[@GodsReaperMan]

@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Yes exactly!! SO True!!!

[@SaltyRoast]

I hear Taiki Watiki will write and direct Black Panther 3. I wonder if he'll do the whole gold chains and "flicking" thing with Black Panther?

[@Nemesis0921]

Wait how is she teaching him how to love. The man spent a whole film grieving over the loved ones he lost....his brother who wasn't really dead, his father, his mother, half his people, heimdall. Guess he wasn't loving right.

[@MrGorpm]

TBH, grieving can be a little selfish. Real love is selfless, that in no way endorses the movie BTW.

[@moonlitskylight5740]

He needed a woman to show him how to do it properly, apparently.

[@himathegreat2987]

Didn't he learn some important shit from his mother in endgame. Disney apparently brainwashes thor b4 the next film lol

[@booperdee2]

@@MrGorpm selfishness is not inherently bad. selflessness is not inherently good. Grief, by definition, is not something that you just turn off. You overcome a process and you have no say in how long it takes, how severe it is. It is selfish to demand someone grieving a recent genocide, while you were their leader, to stop whining and just think about someone else.

[@Ioganstone]

"If I want drama I'll just remember something from my life" Quote of the day my good sir

[@sitcomchristian6886]

I actually laughed out loud XD

[@didimean]

I completely forgot about Shang Chi and The Eternals.... says alot about the direction the MsheU has taken. Not even gonna bother with this one, which is too bad because I love Thor.

[@semi2893]

I loved Thor until Ragnarok... yes, I know, it's an unpopular opinion but I think Ragnarok is the worst MCU movie - or, at least, seemed to be until now. But I already thought that Thor had become a clown in Ragnarok, not to mention what they did to Loki. So no, I won't bother to watch another Taika movie ever again.

[@mattarruda]

@@semi2893 you’re the only one ever to have that opinion on Ragnarok but damn there’s a first for everything. Definitely top of my list of marvel films. Like this guy said there’s a fine line to balance comedy and action and storytelling

[@eddyoneal612]

@@mattarruda no he is not the only one, thousands think same. There’s a whole world out there buddy

[@ironmatto3]

@@mattarruda Stop living under a rock.

[@deadartist8827]

If you love something let it go..

[@jasoncadogan3761]

After over a decade of story and character progression, I'm actually now missing Branagh's Thor.

[@chelikhkahn]

This movie is a disgrace to Thor's character and Stan Lee's legacy.

[@draxrdax7321]

That juxtaposition between Odin's and Thor's argument and Korg's idiotic puns summarizes what MCU was and what Disney's MCU is. Now we can appreciate how good the first Thor movie was, when we get this garbage from Woke'a Thytitty thrown at our brains like we're mentally challenged and laugh at a 7yo's jokes.

[@tatters6623]

The 1st thor was one of the worst mcu movies lol

[@Mridul.S]

This film is basically like a High Budget, 2Hr long "FRIENDS or The Office" episode. Except it's unfunny and uninventive.

[@petriew2018]

honestly, the first two Thor movies were pretty bad material elevated by really good actors to make you kind of overlook the mostly inoffensive nonsense These days the nonsense has become frankly so offensive nobody can save it...

[@Comakino]

Watiti's a joker. He's not a great director.

[@sivad1025]

The first Thor is a great movie. I don't get where all the hate for that film is coming from

[@marcbrown6584]

There were moments in the movie when I would look at my wife and just roll my eyes at how badly a scene was made. This movie was absolute trash. You've taken two entire universe franchises and totally ruined both. Well played. *slow clap*

[@souviksarkar9830]

Odin might be a bad father but was a great king

[@redhorsepapi]

"So Gorr at the beginning of the film is basically a peasant; how do we make him powerful?" Movie: super easy, barely an inconvenience-- he just so happens to stumble upon a god killing weapon

[@BIGNA281]

Lol

[@tempemm]

now that you say that they really put no effort

[@webbedshadow2601]

Imagine the kind of amazing looking MCU movie we could get if Kevin Feige didn't force VFX artists to churn this crap out so fast and allowed them to take their time?? Quality > Quantity.

[@yourwifewasinmedms5137]

The contrast between Thor from the other movies was actually kinda insane. Now he can hardly say anything serious

[@enlat2003]

As long as people keep buying tickets to watch these subpar movies, they will continue making them. The director for this film would not be saying he will ruin the mythos if he didn't have revenue coming his way. Everyone out there wanting to stop seeing these films be release just simply need to stop buying tickets and let them flop.

[@AlexanderFort]

Thor, Thor, Gor, and Korg. They really did a great job naming everyone. They all sound so different.

[@moonlitskylight5740]

They sound like Pirates, haha. "The town of Shipwreck, on Shipwreckisland..."

[@moonlitskylight5740]

Or the Croods.

[@himathegreat2987]

Even the BTS have distinct names lol

[@dewolf123]

But thats their comic names isn't it,?

[@keegobricks9734]

If I were black or a woman I would be so ashamed and embarrassed to have Black Valkyrie King as a character to represent me. But I'm not one, so I think it's fun to mock and laugh at.

[@bewimotos]

its all about the paycheck...

[@grisflyt]

Why would they be ashamed of other people's stupidity. Haven't seen the movie, but Valkyrie king is stupid on the face of it. What's up with Hollywood's love of royalties? Ragnarok was already cringy with sets--especially the theater play--more at home in ancient Athens. It feels a dainty for Norse gods.

[@no_player_commentary]

This is the thing with weird woke world. I am black at no point did I ever see her representing me the same as growing up seeing any black character in a movie or show. Also shes mixed in my personal opinion if shes representing any people it would be mixed or either side not automatically black. Its the SJW's (and we all know what they look like) who started this bs. Fack might as well have hymdalls nerdy son be repping it. Its like seeing someone the same race as you walking down the road triping falling over and landing face first in shit. Best believe I will be laughing my ass off just like everyone else, I dont know them. They literally got people mind controlled thinking everyone cares about this nonsense. I heard that king nonsense & delibratley ignored it cause it was stupid just like "Mighty" Thorr geting a load of makeup along with her transformation.

[@qthequick]

Literally got a movie coming out (based on historical events…”based”) titled Woman King…African women of course 🤦🏾‍♂️ so it gets worse

[@coachken6130]

1) The puns are amazing. Love all the names you came up with for the movie. "Thor: Subscribers and Consumers" is my favorite! 2) Taika would not have said what he said while Stan Lee was alive. But since he's gone, he's feeling overconfident. Taika is toxic because he's a marxist who portrays himself as happy-go-lucky. It shouldn't take long for Rippaverse to surpass Marvel Disney, too

[@SuperOmnicronsj44]

I believe he said "I'll ruin your mythos in a minute , baby" WHILE STAN LEE WAS STILL ALIVE. That was the warning sign.....

[@SuperOmnicronsj44]

"It shouldn't take long for Rippaverse to surpass Marvel Disney, too"f I HOPE!!!

[@Zeetana1]

Totally agree. The problem is they hire these toxic commie f*cks that insert wokeness in everything. But that is the whole plan from WEF... Why they have these ESG's to consider. They WANT a dose of communism.

[@pisaschitt787]

What's a rippaverse?

[@xc43t]

Words have meanings, that's why we have dictionaries and shit. Marx for sure did not care about Marvel universe and I doubt he wrote a lot about women empowerment on behalf of men suppression. If you use Marx in relation with economic policies then please, be my guest. Cultural marxism is not a thing. It's just people who don't know what marxism is and also don't like today's woke culture and splice those two together for some reason. They are completely unrelated topics and by the way most woke people are actually economically center or right. Please don't take his name in vain. Thanks.

[@D00R]

Marvel groom boys to be simps, Peter Parking Simping for MJ who was dating Flash, then Spider-man, then engaged to Jonathan Jameson, then sleeping with Peters best friend Harry Osborn. MCU Peter simping for a girl who barely shows interest in him. Thor simping for Jane who barley shows interest in him. It grooms boys to chase women that do not want them, cheat and abandon them.

[@ananda1585]

Nah... Mj loves peter