Female Thor: Love and Thunder | More CRINGE M-She-U Bait-and-Switch from Disney Marvel

[@Alastair_]

My main issue which you pointed out was the male characters we realise are awesome, the female characters we have to be told they are.

[@cb-gz1vl]

True, where's Jane Foster's journey to discover herself?

[@klydejohnson7520]

@@cb-gz1vl there wasnt one even is the comics she literslly judt touchs the hammer

[@farharbor3178]

It’s what I’ve come to think of as secure vs insecure writing. In one situation the story; its craft and components take primacy and the product that arises can be awesome. In the latter, it’s the perception of the character that takes primacy … and so everything’s wagged around in such a fashion to manifest that impression in the audience …. Hence all the heavy handed and blatant telling instead of showing. (Ironically, it’s this insecurity that leads to shittier writing and shittier characters … but that lesson is only open to you if you’re interested in the craft and art and not exclusively preoccupied with THE MESSAGE)

[@himathegreat2987]

@@cb-gz1vl there's no one replacing her, and nobody will be her legacy character. Hence , no goddamn "self discovery" for jane foster

[@Dragonage2ftw]

When has that happened?

[@midmiddleton163]

I loved how they race swapped the character of Valkyrie…Then they made her a drunken slaver…You know a person who caught and sold slaves. Now she’s a king…The MCU is a dumpster fire.

[@bobafatt2155]

Don’t you mean Kanggg

[@flipneleanor7370]

Wow you're right. Holy moly Holywood is racist af.

[@hiramrosajr8231]

Right

[@michaelhoover1432]

Totally agree Odens 7 special red haired warrior angel they "F'd" up our Nordic culture

[@easygrin1127]

who even cares about the MCU Asgard anyway... Ragnorok has happened and mostly everyone and their mother is dead.

[@NickNapoli]

Remember Kevin Feige wants more female superheroes. So when they say Natalie Portman isn’t replacing Chris Hemsworth they’re lying.

[@smartchai]

It's so obvious at this point in time ! This will most probably be the last time that we'll get to see Chris Hemsworth as THOR 🙄 ! The REAL "THOR", that is !

[@flarestorm9417]

Honestly, part of me wants Thor to either die or retire just so that he doesn't need to be degraded anymore. Man's already lost his Asgardian friends, his family, his kingdom, his original weapon, his eye, his kingship... Man doesn't even get to keep his own name. They haven't introduced Iron Heart yet, but Tony is already dead, so effectively they've already setup all six original Avengers for being replaced.

[@4dstellatedhypercube558]

Chris has already come out publicly and said he doesn't think people want to see his Thor anymore so he's not being secretive about it

[@MrZadir-nu7bd]

So we're going to perhaps have Chris' Thor be replaced by a woman, they already set up Hawkeye to be replaced by a woman, Hulk may be replaced by a woman (IDK if Bruce will continue to be Hulk after She Hulk I hope so) and they're more then likely going to replace Iron Man with a woman (Iron Heart) and they see nothing wrong with all this?

[@therealmr.incredible3179]

@@MrZadir-nu7bd That kid from Iron Man 3 needs to be The next Ironman.

[@azathoth2679]

I am female. I just hate this! Thor (the *real* one) was one of my favorites as was Dr. Strange. It's really telling to me that they are willing to destroy the MCU that is such a cash cow.

[@jonathanking9954]

I mean tbf every movie video game comic book or hell even product is made for one reason and one reason only. To make money. Soooo ig every producer is a cash cow.

[@tommerker8063]

@@jonathanking9954 a cash cow is something that you can keep milking money out of. not every prodcut fits that definition

[@GlassTableFilms]

They are trying to appeal to sexist women who wanna see men be treated like shit and put in a lower rank because of this stupid gender war

[@darkduck3677]

If they are willing to shoot themselves in the foot to push their propaganda just imagine what they have planned for your feet.

[@marlsberlin7716]

It was a cash factory because they made good films full of soul and character. Now, Disney's reduced it all to a cow.

[@Medaumplay3]

Another pattern we can take from this is: - we don't see thor odinson fighting gorr - We see KANG valkyre fighting gorr - when gorr said "you're not like the other gods I butchered", we don't see if he's talking to thor or to jane. BUT WE CAN MAKE AN ASSUMPTION HERE

[@muzammilahsan2912]

Yeah ASSUMPTION is Mighty

[@wayfaringman8418]

We can only hope...

[@louisenglish8069]

Dear Lord, that's true 😫

[@HC-gm4fo]

@Sonic Hedgehog *and

[@enjoy-ug1gt]

@Sonic Hedgehog that can happen

[@cyberleaderandy1]

Nothing like destroying your core character for pathetic jokes at their expense and to big up female characters nobody wants to see except the writers doing fan fiction for their own delight and the woke crowds applause, even though they never watch it.

[@himathegreat2987]

Remember Doctor Strange, he's character development was better in his first film and got me liking the character , i even read some comics to know more about him, only to watch the recent *wanda vision sequel* to get slapped lol, no hate for wanda, i thought strange in infinity war was better

[@jonsolo32]

Almost like you’re describing Ragnarok. This garbage is just rinse and repeat now.

[@aurielayala9683]

@@himathegreat2987 Eh both his character developments in the films were okay at best. Simple though

[@aurielayala9683]

@@2012sonora Thr only character I'll say was destroyed in endgame was Thanos and Hulk. Really hate what they did to hulk espically.

[@flarestorm9417]

Reminds me of that line in She-Hulk where She-Hulk said being a hero is for billionaires, narcissists, and adult orphans. Because you know, let's just belittle the accomplishments of the Avengers, as in the ones that saved the world multiple times over.

[@TropicaIJay]

Thor got his clothes zapped off at the end, imagine if that was a woman... It would've been pandamonium. The double standards are ridiculous

[@Gabriel-ww6po]

Bruh why so fragile

[@TropicaIJay]

@@Gabriel-ww6po let me guess, you like Loki?

[@Indians-dl3to]

@@Gabriel-ww6po He is not fragile, he is angry & he has every right to be. M-SHE-U fans like you are the reason why they keep getting away with this s**t.

[@Mr._Anderpson]

@@Gabriel-ww6po I'm not fluent in Newspeak, but suggesting someone is fragile for pointing out an issue...is that what the kids call gaslighting these days?

[@bradleycooper1016]

@@Gabriel-ww6po Everyone getting tired of hearing the virtue signaling from millionaires that have no clue what a normal life is like. Keep your personal super liberal ideals out of a movie, your paid to make a movie not tell people your personal opinions that no one cares about anyways. I want to like these movies but the woke BS makes that impossible

[@kylepassey7813]

When a women is even slightly attractive they say she's being objectified. When a man is chained down, in public, and has all their clothes forcibly removed, it's funny. The latter honestly wouldn't even bother me if the former didn't ring true.

[@thejetttrek]

Yeah let's see how people react if Natalie portman was chained down and stripped naked in front of a bunch of ppl. I'm SUUURE nobody would complain (sarcasm)

[@yourwifewasinmedms5137]

That’s how I feel about most things and accept double standards or at least know the real world is sexist but if people are going to complain then okay I will start complaining

[@24flyingcats84]

I'm a woman who always thought I was a feminist, but I absolutely am not if it means making women act like men, dress like men, and requires men to be debased, humiliated and mocked. The double standards are appalling. They couldn't even have a feminine Queen. She's behaving, dressing and even named like a man. They're sexist towards men and women and I'm just glad I grew up before this bs and haven't got any kids to worry about.

[@thejetttrek]

@@24flyingcats84 exactly they always act like being feminine is opposite of female empowerment when embracing the differences between both genders and each ones strengths is the true empowerment

[@moneyhearts]

They just want undeserving ugly ppl to get hype

[@tonya4029]

As I said when female Thor came out in the comics, Thor isn’t a title, it’s his name. There’s only one Thor and that’s Odinson…who was born with that name.

[@BigBossBernie]

The "title" would've been 'Mjollnir's wielder' - but since Hela broke the hammer and Thor essentially forged himself a new one, that title means pretty much nothing, he's still "a god of thunder".

[@perfect0edge]

Your parents after your birth: "We grant you the title of Tony"

[@himathegreat2987]

No i have faith over disney , we'll soon get a male wasp, male kate bishop , etc . Coz they're titles ,not names just like "Thor" isn't

[@BigPuddin]

@@perfect0edge I shall wear this mantle with pride. *slicks hair into pompadour and puts on a stained wife beater*

[@Elaborance]

If the wielder of Mjölnir is 'Thor' wouldn't that make Hela actually Thor? Since it was hers first?

[@leov3569]

Man remember when the only other person worthy of wielding the hammer was Steve Rogers? Good times.

[@Mouse_Metal]

The worthy or not worthy thing is not even accurate to the mythology. The mythology was bastardized long before the M-sh*t-U became a thing.

[@MrDwarfpitcher]

@@Mouse_Metal Yeah the good old Thor from the Mythos was not an honourable man. He was more the man we see in the Original Thor movie. Killing for glory, not caring about collateral damage. In fact, in the Mythos, he beat up a bunch of peasants because one of the kids unknowingly liked the marrow of Thors Regenerating goat, which would not regenerate properly causing it to limp when it came to life again. Now the Original Odin didn't care about Thor being like that, Odin is actually quite the Power Hungry madman that cut out his own eye for knowledge. That sounds more like a setup for a couple of villains instead of heroes. So like Disney did with old fairy tales, Marvel did with Norse Mythos.

[@dannypalin9583]

See, it was built up over the years of the MCU. Steve proved himself worthy of Mjolnir. Even before he got the Super Soldier Serum, his scrawny self could have lifted it. Now anyone can lift Mjolnir. Even after they deserted the franchise and came back when it made money.

[@adamc117]

And vision

[@hebanker3372]

@@MrDwarfpitcher Because,originally,heroes were larger than life people,not role models.They were ammoral and ambitious.

[@SilverAxe13]

“M-She-U” really is the perfect nickname for Phase 4. “Women good, men bad” is all this franchise is now.

[@ARC5555Fives]

It’s like Yin and Yang but just backwards

[@Soyuz2578]

Don't forget diversity diversity representation!!

[@juliooquendo220]

M she U? No you won't take my money

[@G.I.JOE_fan]

I hope they lose a lot of money but no because God forbid anyone ever snubs a Marvel film. It will probably make another 2 billion dollars. Stop supporting this crap, people and they'll finally get the message and stop making this woke trash!

[@Zathren]

My personal favorite is when the Marvel fans pretend the "M-She-U" is completely made up by alt-right Nazis on Twitter. Bruh, every male character is being replaced by female characters, what else would we call it?

[@Shome2049]

Can't wait to see when Thor is losing badly against Gorr and SheThor comes and defeates Gorr with ease.

[@supercharliegalaxy]

She defeats him by hammering him in the junk. Which would be the saving grace for me cause I'm immature like that lol

[@dannypalin9583]

Don't forget her pre-asskicking dialogue: "The death of all gods and life as we know it? Well, that's not fair, I took up the trombone last week!" And she mops the floor with Gorr with zero effort while "It's the End of the World as We Know It" by R.E.M plays.

[@supercharliegalaxy]

@@dannypalin9583 I hate how accurate that is XD

[@jasonlewis9240]

If they do that it would be a slap in the face to the great Christian Bale

[@Ease54]

Thorette still looks like she's out for a long night of Trick or treating.

[@trevor3013]

Seeing Thor sexualized is so annoying. Disney even stated "people complain more about the sexualization of men" the double standard is relentless

[@keylanoslokj1806]

Imagine if the roles were reversed. Extreme reactions and legal persecutions

[@astrida111]

Oh so you didn't see anything wrong with black widow being sexualized?

[@liamwarner5749]

@@astrida111 I don't recall her being chained up and stripped naked while her allies watched and mocked no.

[@Soto-]

@@astrida111 Where's the scene when Black Widow got stripped butt naked in front of an audience while Bruce asks "should we help?" and Tony offers a blueberry ? I need it for research purposes. 🧐

[@antona.8659]

@@Soto- Under The Skin to your help

[@nigelkhan5331]

I've always said female Thor is a dumb idea SMH 😑 Is beta ray bill called Thor no he isn't, the fake woke nonsense is truly overbearing now. These "Woke" studios are destroying the art of story telling with disgusting identity politics. Why not use established powerful female heroes like Storm or Phoenix, nah instead let's destroy their male counterparts and call us common sense folk bigots & misogynist's 😑🙄

[@himathegreat2987]

Beta ray bill is an awesome and dope character from marvel comics, but disney had to call back an actress who ditched the franchise , rightfully so, since mcu flash Thompson is more memorable than jane foster And i really wanted mcu to built a romance between lady sif and thor , how beautiful it would have been. I hope in another universe, such good stuff are happening

[@cassius573]

Beta Ray Bill is freaking AWESOME! A warrior mutant alien so honored and strong that was deemed worthy by Odin and given Stormbreaker..

[@animezilla4486]

I have no problem with Jane Foster getting the same power as thor

[@animezilla4486]

@M1ddleBroth3r I hear that

[@himathegreat2987]

@@cassius573 my fav beta ray bill moment was in Ragnarok comic , where he swooped in like a badass and obliterated fenris wolf by screaming " WHO DARES LAY HANDS ON THE MIGHTY THOR". Such a great character.

[@rbhatt2247]

So in marvel's world, a woman, despite being a highly qualified distinguished scientist, needs to have muscles and be better at beating up others than a man, and dress like him, and walk and talk like him to be of actual value? And btw, marvel probably is paying three truckloads of monies to Hemsworth to destroy his legacy character, because they know otherwise no one would watch this

[@josephbassey1501]

A woman though she reaches her highest heights is nothing until she literally becomes a man - marvel

[@Elaborance]

Would of been way better if they turned Jane into a Reed.

[@Wolfman7870]

Yes, like Sam Wilson can't just be Falcon and has to adopt the mantle of Captain America because only the white thing is important and legit and we have to give the brown peoples the white thing to make them important and legit - Marvel probably.

[@PowerRedBullTypology]

Feminism = anti feminity

[@cgsweat]

Can't wait to see the Pitch Meeting for this one. Every one of SheThor's fights will have been "super easy, barely an inconvenience!"

[@theALTF4]

i wonder if the knucleheads in charge of this mess have ever heard the term "mary sue"

[@lukewalken1316]

​@@theALTF4 knuckleheads???? You mean the feminists and their simp minions?

[@craigbrison4241]

🤣🤣🤣

[@markbragg7405]

SheThor’s only inconvenience will be saving the male characters and putting up with whichever white guy comic relief they decide to use.

[@Darrylizer1]

Female Thor fights are tight!

[@tajanisc]

Thor reclaimed his title? How do you lose and reclaim your literal birth name?

[@Elaborance]

It's so retarded to think 'Thor' is a title. Why not just call her the Goddess of Thunder instead, even if that doesn't make much sense but it's still better.

[@himathegreat2987]

I mean to a wahman , it's possible ofcourse

[@dcmastermindfirst9418]

Exactly!!!

[@dodumichalcevski]

Well his name is Odinson... Thor is the title

[@Elaborance]

@@dodumichalcevski Bro. His name is Thor Odinson. Thor is not a title, it's his first name. Do you think Loki is a title too now.

[@oscarlazcano1135]

@Nerdotic. Just to add to your comments on the sexism topic. I wanted to point out the huge double standard in that Zeus scene in the trailer. Regardless of whether or not people personally find it funny; the scene where Zeus "flicks too hard" is a great example that Disney does not really stand for what they are espousing. Not only was Thor disrobed (violation of consent), everyone in the room ogled him and fainted (objectification), and then further indulged by both Valkerie and Jane Foster (bystanders not helping). And these events are supposed to be hilarious to the viewer. Just imagine if the script was flipped....... I think everyone in the movie would have lost their job.

[@mikel6090]

who cares man.

[@swokatsamsiyu3590]

Game. Set. Aaand Match! This will be another movie I won't be seeing any time soon. God, I hate what they do all my teenage heroes.

[@alkezar9542]

@@mikel6090 you

[@mikel6090]

@@alkezar9542 I certainly don't. I don't get my panties in a bunch (its a saying btw) over a joke in a movie...

[@cb-gz1vl]

Great point. Same nonsense in Justice League. Virtue signallers all up in arms about a 5 second panning shot of Gal Godot's booty which you don't even remember vs 25 minutes of jacked Henry Cavil standing around shirtless and Amy Adams running her hands over his bare chest. And don't forget the gratuitous shot of Jason Mamoa getting out of the water shirtless and in slow motion.

[@RealMomar27]

I was a Marvel reader for more than 25 years, Travesthor was one of the reasons i quit for good. not only she was like a lunatic, claiming to be the "real Thor" in every friking panel, they even turned Odin ( god of wisdom amongst other things) into a misoginist cave man ( its not like his Elite soldiers, the valkiries, are all women, or something). And she defeats him, something Thor never could do, because Odins power level is cosmic.I hated all the all new dumb replacements as well. So im probably watching the film on a pirate site, just for curiosity, but im not giving my money to a fake Thor movie.

[@wvanyar1801]

Oh, I still read Marvel comics, I have the Marvel Unlimited comic subscription. I just finished reading Planet Hulk. Just started today World War Hulk. I'm reading all the comics I could not afford when I was younger. As for the new comics, no I'll not even read them on Marvel Unlimited, I stop on a series usually when I hit 2012 to 2014. As for the movies, I saw the SONY Spiderman No Way Home. I've not seen Dr. Strange 2, I don't plan on seeing Thor Love and Thunder, and I'm starting to lose hope for Guardians of the Galaxy 3. As for even watching it from a pirated site, NO. I had Disney+ for three months, I did not watch the Eternals even though I could have done it since I'd already paid for the service (same applied to Rise of Skywalker). If the film is a bait and switch, I'm not going to even give it my time, let alone my money.

[@no_activity]

@M1ddleBroth3r I might give it a chance if the right reviewers say it's ok.

[@zaknefain100]

@@no_activity who are "the right" ones.. so we all know

[@no_activity]

@@zaknefain100 if you are actually interested, you might want to start by watching some of the videos that feature the content creator who created the content to which this comment thread is attached.

[@QeZobaBazZz]

I stop purchasing comics after “original sin” event when the kamala/gwenpool/harley quin mode explode comic books on the dc/marvel side die for me, i still buy some image or dark horse comics. And sadly my family pays for disney plus and always want to go to cinema to watch this garbage. And im including carnage and mobius.

[@Sam-lm8gi]

It's such a shame that Chris Hemsworth's talent has been wasted on these crappy Thor sequels. He would be the perfect Mighty Thor, if only the writers were true to the (old) comics.

[@Nobody-tt4uh]

Indeed.

[@superpow3755]

Jane was the mighty Thor in the old comics to

[@flarestorm9417]

*Marvel:* "We want to make strong and diverse characters." *Also Marvel:* Makes them derivative of their existing characters and doesn't even bother giving them new superhero identities all of the time (Falcon as Captain America, Miles Morales, Jane Foster, etc.).

[@Riddick00001]

Miles Davis aka Peter darker

[@br0nzepen]

Tokens

[@africaisacontinent2149]

But that black spider was well written unlike Jane.

[@himathegreat2987]

I want male Gamora, plz marvel make it happen .better name him "Mighty Gamora"

[@TiMERZ]

@@himathegreat2987 and make sure to make him the way more better version of the original one! Can do everything! Always right at everything! All the existention bow at him! He was born to be awesome!

[@Arassar]

Thor is his name. Calling her "Mighty Thor" NEVER MADE ANY SENSE.

[@halley4032]

Minnie Thor 🤣🤣

[@theoverunderthinker]

Trans Thor: she identifies as Thor now.

[@rsmllc2]

And what about Odin? Is there a female who has had that title transferred to her, as in "the Mighty Odin?"

[@con_doorman]

Mighty sore

[@Selvarin]

The Mighty Thora. (Too obvious?)

[@rbu2136]

Doctor Strange: I was such a bad Boyfriend. So bad. I should be punished. Me so saaaaddddd. Women so strong. Thor: HOLD My Tears Mug

[@shadowking9739]

I love how in that clip of Natalie Portman at ComicCon, it looks like she's struggling to hold the plastic Mjolnir

[@BrianTads]

I couldn't help laughing at that part .....🤣..... what is she like 5 foot 3 and a tiny slender build struggling to hold up that plastic hammer .....just looked comical.....certainly not worthy of being the mighty Thor!

[@shadowking9739]

@@BrianTads Right? At the time of recording, she was 5'3'' and 118 pounds, as well as being nearly forty-years-old. I don't think her tenure is going to last long, even if the movie is (somehow) good.

[@ba1186]

@@shadowking9739 I don't think I can bring myself to even watch it. I've almost totally lost my once enthusiastic energy about upcoming superhero flicks......

[@shadowking9739]

@@ba1186 Same. I haven't seen anything MCU-related since Endgame.

[@ba1186]

@@shadowking9739 They are well on the way to killing off the superhero movie franchise..... And when it inevitably falls totally apart beyond repair.... they will undoubtedly blame men for not supporting the utter demasculination and replacement of their long standing well established male superheros......

[@mre4u422]

i'm all for female superheroes but i can't stand gender swapped superheroes if you want to have a hero with the same or identical powers to a male superhero i'm ok with that (i don't like it but i'm not upset about it either) but gender swapping a known character and making the female version stronger, faster, smarter, and more skilled in combat (which i guarantee is exactly what they have done with FemThor) is just insulting

[@jakesevere9165]

gender swapping iconic characters is exactly as pointless and lazy as race swapping them. it does nothing but prove writers can’t write good characters for women and minorities, or more likely that they’re just too lazy to.

[@donpietruk1517]

Exactly. It literally took Thor thousands of years to reach the point he was at in the MCU in terms of powers abilities wisdom and character. But somehow Jane Foster almost instantly emerges as a better version of Thor than he was? Give me a break.

[@Tekaneable]

They all come off as cheap knock-off. There are few exceptions like She-Hulk but honestly I am super annoyed by this as well. Corporates seems to not understand that women LIKE male characters too.

[@3MrNiceGuy15]

This is hardly a gender swap. That's how the hammer works. There are multiple iterations of Thor in the comic

[@mre4u422]

@@3MrNiceGuy15 Thor took over a thousand years to become who he is and overnight Jane is stronger, smarter, faster, and better in every way than Thor. furthermore this movie will only show just how much better she is and will be Thor's last movie before being completely replaced by FemThor. how exactly is that not a gender swap i mean swapping one character with the *exact same character* of the opposite gender is the very definition of a gender swap

[@efe_aydal]

And let's not forget. Professor Charles Xavier is also a mantle. Soon we'll see a random woman taking the mantle and becoming Mighty Professor Charles Xavier. And be better at it. She'll be able to walk but she'll choose to be in a wheelchair because her body, her choice.

[@glebbokhan9777]

so we can drop the "Mighty" before any man name and it will be a woman name? like Mighty Johnny Depp or Mighty Napoleon Bonaparte?

[@PowerRedBullTypology]

@@glebbokhan9777 Yes, that's how it works 100%

[@PR-li3xm]

😂😂🤣 I don't need to walk I am a woman Not an man🤣🤣

[@terryrocks2j]

Charlotte Xavier.

[@Crazieyboy15]

Please don’t give them any ideas.

[@robobrain10000]

Multiverse of Madness was such a disappointment that I am not going to see this movie in theater like I was originally planning on.

[@tonyruby4467]

Same

[@anubusx]

More like Season 2 of Wandavision.

[@Vidyalog]

Literally have same thoght, lost my passion for Marvel after Wandavision season 2 despite most of my friends abandoned the ship after Endgame. All the other upcoming films including this one I'd maybe, just maybe watch them on internet after hearing everyones spoilers or impressions but Disney isn't seeing my money anymore. If there is people who enjoy this new path, that's cool, but I'm not the target audience of Marvel anymore and that's what I have finally understand after so many films and series on this phase so I'm just gonna go away.

[@DontEvenLiftBro]

@@Vidyalog I was done after far from home. Didn’t watch anything marvel until no way home came out and loved it.

[@Vidyalog]

@@DontEvenLiftBro I wish I could be as you and skipped all the shows, but my "give the benefit of the doubt" always is in there for me.

[@Rose_Bride]

*100%* agree with this. I felt PHYSICALLY Ill watching the newly released trailer. I HATED how they had Thor actually _fan-girling_ over Jane. Even _worse_ is the way Jane so casually dismissed him, as though their relationship and time together meant little to NOTHING to her. This man was ready to _leave Ashard_ for her. He LITERALLY _walked away from the throne_ for Jane at the end of _Thor: The Dark World,_ yet the way Jane acts towards him in this trailer shows what a MISTAKE that was as she _clearly_ never cared for him. As a female I can FREELY admit that if this were reversed, and if it were _Thor_ who was acting this way towards _Jane,_ (i.e. dismissive, cold, unfeeling, and behaving as though she were "just" another notch on his belt of conquests, so to speak) there would be a public outcry on how "$ex¡$t" this is, how "degrading" this is, and "gender inequality," etc. And the scene of Thor being chained and stripped ("flicked") is bizarre in how it is apparently "okay" to oggle and objectify men, but it's "wrong" to do this to women?? What happened to gender equality?? Or is it the whole, _"Rules for thee but not for me"_ thing again??

[@Flivvy]

You have Ironheart as your pfp. I say thee, nay!

[@Nobody-cw3ri]

your profile picture is literally of a race swapped mary sue

[@Rose_Bride]

@@Flivvy So? I like the artwork. Don't read my comment if you disagree.

[@ultramaxpro8537]

What gender equality? There can never be gender equality ever because women can never equality across all boards such as bricklaying. The only other option is gender superiority, which is what you witness with your eyes everyday.

[@dannypalin9583]

Imagine if Jane or Valkyrie were stripped by Zeus and Thor and Korg were laughing at them for it. Thor's schoolboy stammering at Jane and being stripped by Zeus more or less cemented his role in the movie. The God of Thunder, who was introduced to the MCU in 2011, will be reduced to nothing but slapstick and being thrown under the bus. This won't be a dignified passing of the torch.

[@cb-gz1vl]

With Portman there's not much to see. Her and Gal Godot together wouldn't fit into an A cup.

[@gwit4051]

dude ikr, when i saw that all i could think about was how much outrage there would be if one of the "strong female characters" got stripped ass naked in front of a stadium of people and then was ogled and joked about by their friends.

[@Superluigi881]

The classic double standard

[@keylanoslokj1806]

That's how feminists write fiction. Make ragdoll clowns of the men, and give anticlimactic power to women

[@J1283-s1k]

While I find Hemsworth genuinely a very naturally comedic person, you're so right about the 'schoolboy stammering'. I couldn't quite put it into words but that is one of the things I despise about post Endgame Thor. Generally Thor is my favourite character (a carry over from the comics) but that silly fawning performance just makes Thor look like a berk and that's not who Thor should be. I understand the heightened focus post Ragnarok, on making Thor an easily accessible dullard, but generally even in Ragnarok itself and especially Infinity War, they seemed to do a fantastic job of keeping Thor, Thor. Even in Ragnarok, while there were some silly moments like him letting out a silly scream before the Grandmaster (or the bizarre out of place humour where the God who can take an imploding city to the face is dropped by a bouncy ball), the majority were still him generally being Thor but reacting to the silliness around him. But that silly, goofy 'side' of Thor was so heavily drilled into in Endgame. Remember when Thor was asked about Jane in Ragnarok and he simply commented a quick 'it was a mutual dumping' and then went back to his business? Because he'd moved on and was in another stage of his life. But then with Endgame and now this, they're just going to keep committing to this absolute misstep regarding his character. All to make him the MCU equivalent of the 12 year old with the frosted tips and the flame shirt, by forcing this weirdly emphasized desire for Jane (the awkward '8 years, 5 months 2 days' moment too) like a boy realising his first crush rather than a 1500 year old God who already got the girl and has already been shown to have gotten over Jane maturely when they did then break up.

[@padenbang7375]

Shitty thing is....Taika knows how to make a fun, interesting movie. So most normies will probably applaud it, despite the obvious virtue signaling, self indulgence BS.

[@blackmantis3130]

The marvel brand has reached a point where people will watch anything they produce and call it masterclass.

[@sedohema]

Marvel is full of shills. The people over at NewRockstars being the main ones, you wanna see real shills. Go check them out

[@jennatulls2884]

Thor shouldn’t be fun tho, they should be brutal and violent. People forget who thor is cause “oh ha ha funny joke”

[@NormanReaddis]

Taika is the king of normie direction.

[@Doubtfull1988]

LOL marvel lame.

[@stephenlanuto5993]

What's stupid as hell is they could have done something genuine with Thor where Jane could have been his guiding star throughout all his experiences but....NOPE, they just had to goofball his feelings for her

[@BigBossBernie]

To be honest, Natalie Portman was not in the third one, nor in any of the Avengers movies - similar to Gwyneth, writers didn't expect her to return thus they didn't include any ongoing storyline. At this point it would have made much more sense to have her jump over from another Universe with a totally different back story; say Thor did lose his powers like in the first, they fell in love and he protected the town from Loki's onslought but in their universe his powers didn't return and he died in her arms. So Mjollnir made it like the Green Lantern ring and picked a new master. There you have it, female Thor with a back story, not emasculating mainline Thor and a reason for her to wield the destroyed hammer, that even the dwarfen smith could not reforge.

[@stephenlanuto5993]

@@BigBossBernie if I knew they could write a decent in-movie scene...Har Har Har, I know, they could make it that Jane was not first love but his greatest love, that no matter where he was in the universe she was that part of him pushing him forward, like the idea of Thanos snapping her away drove him into that blind rage at the start of endgame and her loss was what made him into...Gamer Thor.

[@wumpusrat]

Yeah, it's just so stupid. Thor of course is totally infatuated, remembering TO THE DAY how long it's been since he's last seen her. Jane is just "ehh, whatever, you're just some guy I dated for a little while". If they did it the other way around, you'd have people on twitter screeching about how she's "being portrayed as an obsessive ex-girlfriend". But it's okay to play it with Thor being that way for a laugh.

[@stevencontreras84]

So you wanted the typical female supportive character...

[@sunknight581]

@@stevencontreras84 well it would be nice to have thor being the main character in his own movie wouldn't it?

[@-TroyStory-]

It's so good to see the male actors of MCU allowing the characters they worked so hard to bring to life to now be subjugated and castrated in the public forum to the point of becoming guest stars in their own movies. So brave of them.

[@MetalGearBronya]

The worst part is that they willingly kneel to the murder of their characters. I say they reap what they sow

[@JohnSmith-yd5wq]

Right I mean it was only over a decade with the male characters. It should have been 25 years.

[@perunplague9794]

RDJ and Chris Evans got out at the right time.

[@JohnSmith-yd5wq]

@@perunplague9794 get a life

[@perunplague9794]

@@JohnSmith-yd5wq you will never be a woman

[@tochukwuudu7763]

I’m not even mad at the female characters,the writing is just honestly shit now.

[@fd502]

Yeah like they are women. Why then are they written to be really unlikeable or boring. (Wanda and Chavez) Is it like part of the agenda to make the women horrible and still insist that you are an ist phone if you don’t like them? Must be.

[@animezilla4486]

Agree I don't got an issue with Jane Foster as Thor the only thing I care about is how she is handled

[@brittlby4016]

Hey! Before you judge Valkyrie, just realize… “you’ll never know what she gave up!” or… something something, overcoming oppression, something something. And that makes the slave trafficking all a okay!

[@scheinerchen6471]

Didn´t they tell in Ragnarock she run away because of PTSD after the fight against Hela or something like that. Now that is a "better" reason for slave trafficking than Wanda with her non exsiting kids mindslave a hole town, insn´t it.........NO it´s not. 🤣

[@brittlby4016]

@@scheinerchen6471 it MIGHT be, if she was at all remorseful for the hundreds of people she sent to their deaths while being a drunken coward. But she isn’t.

[@larsgeerlings2407]

I mean she gave up slaves and a free meal. That's tough man sheesh.

[@brentchesson2179]

Just think of poor Doug. Nobody thinks of poor Doug.

[@LouisianaBurns]

Thor reclaimed his title.. You mean his name ? His name is Thor Odinson..how can you call his name…A TITLE!

[@flarestorm9417]

And even in the context of the MCU it still doesn't make sense. The inscription on Thor's hammer says if the wielder is worthy they will possess the POWER of Thor, not literally become Thor. And at that, the inscription was only put on the hammer after Thor was banished to Earth to learn humility... meaning that Thor was never something he had to earn, as it was always just his name.

[@ezzekieldirks8542]

@@flarestorm9417 Yh. I wouldn't be suprised if they make a mighty hercules in the future

[@Danthehorse]

I cant stand how they insisted on her being 'The Mighty Thor'. No, he is. Talk about disempowering every male strong character. Reminds me of Arrow.

[@EnsignRedshirtRicky]

If she is Thor, then I am Jane Foster. Pay attention to her real arms in the grape eating scene as well. Still pipe-cleaners. She already is a better Thor, as she has powers that he could not develop in his 1000+ years. He never had multi-shot that easily takes down a whole crowd at one without effort.

[@Omegeddon]

Because the hammer is broken

[@BigBossBernie]

To be fair, he's the norse god of thunder and she seem's to be fireing ice shards (or the CGI is really bad). But honestly, his story in Ragnarok/ Infinity War was all about coming to terms with him realising that his powers come from within, not from any title. So how does she even gain any powers from the hammer?

[@theyincorporated5711]

@@BigBossBernie the enchantment that Odin place on the hammer said whoever is worth can wield the powers of Thor. To be consistent did you question Captain America summoning lightning in Endgame?

[@poijnve3912]

@@theyincorporated5711 didn't odin made that spell to taught thor a lesson? because in thor 3 he literally say, that the hammer never gave thor his powers... for what we now the best thing the hammer can do is redirect lighting (so thor could use his powers with safety), so again it make no sense that jane as super powers... in that case why didn't cap got thor's title in endgame while wielding mjolnir?

[@theyincorporated5711]

@@poijnve3912 Yes but also if that was the only case why is Thor and Captain America the only people to pick up the hammer of the enchantment was simply to prove a lesson? Lesson learned right? Also clearly Captain America simply didn’t want to take the title?

[@MaverickhunterXZero]

Can we be reminded in Thor 3, The directors own movie. Mjolnir was just a conduit for Thor's power, but now it is the power because plot and stronk wahman has it now. Remember when the MCU had continuity?

[@Scylon1]

Technically by that logic, 100% of her powers are actually coming from Thor?

[@MaverickhunterXZero]

@@Scylon1 She has Mjölnir. Her powers come from Thor by default.

[@TheFunchip]

Remember when Captain America used lightning powers?

[@Scylon1]

@@TheFunchip tis a good point. A inconstancy in marvel? tell me isn't so! :P

[@JoakimOtamaa]

Also, Odin said in the first movie that they aren't gods. Asgardians are mortal, just live thousands of years instead of short span of human life. Taika retconned Odin to say that they apparently are gods. Fuck I hate MCU.

[@Wolfman7870]

Making a black character be a slaver is pretty insensitive tbh. It's even worse than making your first Asian hero good at Kung Fu and your first Hispanic heroine have the power to illegally cross interdimentional borders. At this point it feels like Marvel is trolling the woke crowd.

[@jevondismuke5252]

She's biracial, so , I mean I could happen, buffer class and all.

[@fuckwitmcdipshit2963]

"Making a black character be a slaver is pretty insensitive tbh." It´s historically very accurate. Making her a valkyrie is not. Making her a king is not. But it makes her stunning and brave.

[@kingetzel2755]

It doesn't justify slavery in any way whatsoever, but African people sold slaves to European and American slave traders - that's how the slave trade worked.

[@cteal2018]

Is it trolling the woke or those that hate the woke?

[@yooginava1828]

@@kingetzel2755 SHHHHH they dont like knowing that history.

[@sbkeel5639]

The part where you point out the most accurate Thor helmet we've gotten was in Adventures in Babysitting was hilarious and true!

[@jkellyid]

I'm just very tired of females granted male virtue and they call that a character. The virtues of the sexes are unique to the sexes and that is what makes them interesting. When you masculinize a female. It is off-putting.

[@LadyAxe13]

Dude, as a Heathen, calling Thor a woman by any stretch is downright, actual, blasphemy! I've said this before -- wonder when Jesus will suddenly be a chick and all the Biblical films have to be redone? THOR is a fucking MAN!!!!

[@andrewsmith2880]

Agreed. Absolute blasphemy. There are plenty of female Gods in the Norse Pantheon to put center stage and instead they choose to cuck Thor, the paragon of masculinity, take his hammer and give it to a woman that's not even an Asgardian...

[@mikel6090]

Considering the Bible is fiction, and so is Jesus, Jesus could be a woman.

[@Challagar]

There are already progressives and new agers calling God "she," but you're right. It's only a matter of time when they unveil a female Jesus or at least try to revise history and claim it was a patriarchal conspiracy to fool person-kind into believing she was really a man.

[@alkezar9542]

@@mikel6090 bruh who cares ?

[@mikel6090]

@@Challagar I'm a man, but why couldn't a God be a woman? Especially since himan kind has never seen God, who are you to assume they are a man?

[@jcurls90]

As soon as you mentioned Disney insinuating that Jane is Thor's first, I died inside. Regardless of it being romantic or sexual, the concept is nonsensical.

[@Hallow6262]

For real he is a 1500 year old god and he was handsome and popular in Asgard obviously he had sex probably had org*es low key

[@tomcruisenukedmyaccount5388]

Thor 1 is awesome, underrated, and pretty comic accurate.

[@romibengali]

At-least not woke garbage.

[@Jedioutcast]

I agree

[@terrellwebb6907]

Thor 1 was shit man

[@theunknowncommenter725]

​@@terrellwebb6907 It was better than it's sequels.

[@JohnnyOrc]

I stopped watching super hero movies after Endgame, which was a pretty good movie. My biggest gripe with it wasn't the time travel plot shenanigans, or the Captain Marvel wank-off; it was how they took Thor, a man who had struggled to return to Asgard right after the death of his father, was helpless in Sakaar as his people were ruled and killed by a Tyrant, managed to return to Asgard only to see, and indeed, *cause* his home to be utterly destroyed, then almost immediately lose half of his remaining people to Thanos...and then he rose up *again* to try and save the day, to fall short by inches and be indirectly responsible for not preventing the deaths of trillions of sentients... and then they made him the joke character in Endgame. "Oh look, Thor is fat now! Let's laugh at him." The man has gone through trauma that would break almost anyone else, and they can't even respect that. (Apologies for the run-on sentence earlier.)

[@ahmedw5366]

Hollywood has no respect for men. Continue to emasculate our hero’s and they’ll see money lost rapidly.

[@johndiamond6931]

The whole plot in Endgame for Thor was ridiculous. I haven't bothered watching Endgame again, I'm satisfied finishing MCU with Infinity Wars. There seems to be more hope in what Sony is doing with Marvel now than Disney. I'd rather invest my time in those films, they are much better than what Disney has been pushing out lately.

[@kevmasengale6903]

Man I called the MCU going to complete crap after Endgame..... Just knew they'd go full woke after it....

[@Ghost-bp7dp]

You should wathc The Boys

[@keevanalrasyidumar5450]

Well, I disagree about fat Thor. It was said that fat Thor was supposed to represent some of the depressed people that no longer cared about their life, they no longer cared about their body, and just said fuck all which is what happens to Thor. But he doesn't give up. He get back up again. It takes time yes but he get back up again. That's what I like about his character

[@wcw2793]

While the design isn’t comic accurate, Christian Bale’s Gorr looks like the only redeemable thing about the film. Too bad he’ll probably get beat with ease by Jane Thor and Valkyrie.

[@pineapplepizza4016]

Redeemable? They didn't even put any effort into his costume design. Just slapped on a coat of white paint.

[@thedoomaster14]

It's Christian Bale, you don't just put cgi all over his face...

[@antona.1327]

@@thedoomaster14 he wore a batsuit for three movies and was just fine.

[@jaimeruiz7837]

@@thedoomaster14 you can, he’s just a fucking actor. People need to stop worshipping these people.

[@AndresPrez]

He looks too skinny and not menacing at all........ idk about this

[@gfodale]

Thank you for delivering some humor, out of this crap show. I refuse to line Disney's pockets with what little money I have to work with.

[@squarepickle]

I think what bothers me the most is that they already tried this woke crap in the comics in like 2017 or 2018 and it was an abysmal failure. The Jane Foster Thor, Iron Heart, and Asian Hulk era that almost killed Marvel... Yeah let's spend millions trying it again and killing the MCU!

[@scalderiso]

Exactly

[@Jay-Garcia101]

They will try it cause they know a huge percent of paid customers to movies dont read or know anything about comics. So they will make their money!

[@rhinohelix197]

@@Jay-Garcia101 It didn't work in the comics, and it won't work in the movies, either. Terrible storytelling is terrible storytelling regardless of the medium. They can coast for a while and still make money based on their past work but that has a lingering effect, and if you kill the goodwill, eventually even less mediocre effects will suffer. See: Transformers.

[@Jay-Garcia101]

@@rhinohelix197 you make a great point in Transformers, I hope it happens and quick. I hope this Thor fails. I have my doubts cause the sheep will go!

[@rhinohelix197]

@@Jay-Garcia101 They may go, because Chris Hemsworth is so likeable and general movie audiences maybe haven't seen the D+ bait and switch as much as die-hard MCU fans. The failure cascade has begun, though, and I think the diminishing returns will be apparent starting with this movie. I hate that they have ruined so many great characters and stories it would have been great to see on the big screen. Nothing lasts forever, I guess, and Marvel Disney's racing to embrace it's own destruction was inevitable.

[@dylanbacklund7655]

Even my wife can't stand this stuff like she knows quite well men can beat up women in virtually all instances so why would anyone want to watch poorly choreographed female fight scenes that look like the blows have the impact of a beanie baby on your butt cheek.

[@Mr._Anderpson]

I walked out of Ragnarok disappointed by what they did to the character & the story of Asgaard as a whole. I won't be fooled into watching Watooti having another go at denigrating Thor.

[@kuhanblock9380]

If you want to watch a good Taika movie, just watch Hunt For The Wilderpeople.

[@theycallmefingers2]

Didn't like Ragnarok either. Very few of the jokes landed for me which was pretty bad considering the entire movie was a marathon of jokes. Really didn't appreciate the darker Thor movies becoming a Guardians of the Galaxy knockoff (and I really like Guardians).

[@dannypalin9583]

The Thor movies had their own style and tone. Essentially Shakespeare meets Lord of the Rings in space. They may have been okay at best, but you could tell they were trying to be their own thing in the MCU. Then along came the Guardians of the Galaxy movies. They're set in space, have 60s/70s music for a soundtrack and they're really jokey. They didn't make a third Thor movie. They made Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2.5.

[@Usapyon_0719]

i also hated what they did to Thor in Ragnarok, and the whole movie in fact.

[@jmaxx7410]

And that movie had Hulk's best performance in the MCU. They turned him into a joke. Should have had 2008 Hulk in the mcu but oh well.

[@michellegiacalone1079]

Oh noes!!! The MCU doesn't solely revolve around buff white guys any more!!! It's RUINED!!!11!!1!

[@officerbucktuddrussel394]

Was Beta Ray Bill called Thor at any point and if so for how long? Wasn't there already a Thor replacement from the 80's that called himself Thunderstrike not Thor?

[@thesonofdormammu5475]

Yeah, Eric Masterson merged with Thor for a while, then he got separated from him and due to his bravery/etc Odin had a magic mace made for him and he called himself Thunderstrike to differentiate himself from Thor. And Beta Ray Bill was never called Thor, even when he wielded Mjolnir.

[@officerbucktuddrussel394]

@@thesonofdormammu5475 So we've got 2 concrete examples of 'Thor' not being a title to Disney's 1 of it being a title then. I also love that we got from the "don't objectify women" crowd the 'Mjolnir is now a lady' literal objectification. These dumbasses.

[@Davidweedlove]

Yup Beta Ray Bill was definitely called Thor at multiple points of his career

[@pjthehomelessmage]

Zeus dies like a bitch. Valkyrie takes his place with a harem of women as the leader of Olympus. Jane Foster and Thor get back together with Thor as the sub and they stay on Earth leading New Asgard. The Guardians of the Galaxy go off somewhere else. Valkyrie and Jane Foster kill Gorr the God Killer while Thor does basically nothing. My prediction.

[@Aftermath-ye4db]

The way Disney's Marvel writes their female characters, you'd think that they hate women

[@claudeyaz]

100% it makes me sad Random thought..anyone else think they should have cast an albino to play snow white? Could get us away from the "fairest of them all," toxic ness..and instead..the step mom could be jealous of the attention snow would get because of her health issues Instead...idk wtf they are doing

[@Fridaey13txhOktober]

"Male feminists" often do! 😄

[@299thusername8]

The Message calls for destruction of family unit. Apparently they are going to do everything right this time and last century was just practise. You can not make an omelet without breaking an egg or wading in blood.

[@crossup13]

They obviously don't know very many real women lol, just the 18-22yo blue haired poly-obsessed woke crowd women.

[@bambamnj]

Every time I see the Iron Heart logo I swear it says Iron Fart

[@Grandmas_Favorite]

Ayyy let’s get it!!! The classic bait and switch is the new Disney formula for its superhero/fantasy titles… Let’s see if it pays off in Thor 4 Cotton!

[@pyrrhicvictory4115]

Definitely a bold strategy...

[@daredevil4898]

Waititi also comments on fans thinking that Natalie Portman's Thor is going to replace Chris Hemsworth - because that is what Marvel has been doing as of late - but Waititi says he doesn't think so, and hints there is more to come from Hemsworth in the MCU Blah blah blah haters

[@Grandmas_Favorite]

@@daredevil4898 Are you saying the fans are haters or Why-Titty is a hater ?

[@TheeJacobie]

I'm actually rooting for all of the villains to come and destroy the m-she-u.

[@KingSneevil]

They are the villains

[@Azraeluchiha999]

Bring Galactus!

[@botboi2238]

This ain’t the m she u bro, just because they introduce a handful of female hero’s doesn’t mean it’s full of females now

[@Canlass]

@@botboi2238 now that's a funny joke

[@non-fictionaltoughguy1208]

Same

[@torlandobx9671]

And yet, they expect us to be excited for their inevitable Secret War movie? Again...RIP MCU (2008 - 2018)

[@geraldhammond3260]

Everything that goes work turns to SHIT! Fuck Disney!

[@flyingjay7]

Captain America was in 7 movies before he was worthy of the hammer. Jane foster, 2 movies as a side character and she's worthy? Right.

[@WarGhoulKharas]

I saw the trailer. At that moment, I said "I'm done with Marvel."

[@mallios13]

What's funniest is that, while it took Disney/Marvel several years to make SheThor happen, in that time Jane is no longer called "Thor" but is now "Valkyrie." And now she has a super bracelet that turns into whatever weapon she wants. Y'know, like Thena of the Eternals. So a crappy woman none of us liked became something none of us liked to rip off a guy we did like, only to give that back to said guy while ripping off a more original female character who has the misfortune of belonging to a group most of us don't care about (which was already recently adapted into a woke movie none of us liked).

[@nigelkhan5331]

Facts 💯

[@superpow3755]

What are you talking about do you read comics Jane has her own character she is not a rip off of Thor have you ever even read a mighty Thor comics

[@superpow3755]

It’s not a woke movie and Jane is not ripping off Thor and if Jane is truly a rip off of Thor then why didn’t you complain about the comics

[@GregsGameRoom]

8:22 - "I really miss the days when everyone in Hollywood was just coked out of their minds." LOL!!!

[@SnobbyBird_]

Marvel has great female characters, including Phoenix, Invisible woman, rogue, and much MUCH more. So why don’t they just bring those people in instead of replacing known characters? They have the rights

[@Mouse_Metal]

They basically copied the scene where Kylo Force-pulls the lightsaber and Rey Force-pulls it too, so it flies to her hand.

[@The_Mighty_Fiction]

Not exactly. That's more of a battle of wills thing. This is more sort of like a dog returning to its new master, thereby metaphorically pissing on the boot of the old one. Is that a movie scene anywhere?

[@nerychristian]

@@The_Mighty_Fiction You mean like when Rey is magically able to fly the millenium falcon and fix it. Or when R2D2 follows Rey

[@The_Mighty_Fiction]

@@nerychristian Yeah, kind of that level of shittiness.

[@cmleibenguth]

I think this movie is going to: - Kill off Thor - Backdoor pilot for Hercules - Kill off rest / most of Greek pantheon - Have a post credit scene for Jane's cancer

[@daredevil4898]

Read what director said not this frustrated guy

[@TheMaleRei]

@@daredevil4898 What did the director say?

[@daredevil4898]

@@TheMaleRei Waititi also comments on fans thinking that Natalie Portman's Thor is going to replace Chris Hemsworth - because that is what Marvel has been doing as of late - but Waititi says he doesn't think so, and hints there is more to come from Hemsworth in the MCU.

[@cmleibenguth]

@@daredevil4898 We will see. Could be he is staying around, could be he will just cameo from now on (and therefore while not technically dead, he is still effectively out of the picture and therefore replaced). I will look it up. Even if Thor himself doesn't die / isn't replaced, I stand by my other predictions. Thanks for the heads up! :)

[@TurboKid_2010]

Absolutely Correct

[@jpthegr8860]

I’m starting to think RDJ’s departure from the MCU was a lot more complicated than it was represented as. They legit wrote him out of the universe because there was no way he’d go along with everything they’ve done since he died. Unbelievable

[@himathegreat2987]

It's good tony and cap are out. Otherwise they too would have been stripped naked publicly for fun, just like Thor

[@jpthegr8860]

@@himathegreat2987 I never thought I would agree with that statement. RDJ would never allow it. Evans would. But not RDJ.

[@underthepale]

I think Downey and Evans both priced themselves out because they saw the writing on the wall- or, at least, Downey clearly did. I think there's way more to it than we know, at any rate.

[@jpthegr8860]

@@underthepale RDJ’s compensation was structured so that his guarantee (the downside) was nominal but he got a percentage of the revenue associated with the picture. He priced himself out because he did such a good job and was such a compelling character that the movies became an institution in and of itself. Disney paid $808 million to George Lucas for the Star Bores IP and systematically destroyed its value in less than 10 years. Money wasn’t the issue- it was that Feige had to contend with Robert creatively had he stayed around and Downey would never have stood for what has transpired. Feige would say “we want to feature more strong woman characters Robert”, and Downey would simply say “Kevin, what exactly isn’t strong about Pepper, Natasha, Gamora, the Wasp, Peggy Carter, Nebula and the ones we’ve made?” Downey would say “are you telling me that for a decade we’ve been making movies that minimize our female cast because if that’s been the strategy, I wouldn’t have any part of it.” And Feige wouldn’t be able to say anything because he’d know it was true and what he’s doing would be exposed.

[@Guardsmen4]

RDJ unfollowed everyone he worked with on the MCU on Instagram later the media tryed spin it as his "manager did the deed" let that sink in

[@The_Mighty_Fiction]

Has no-one figured out yet that Tessa Thompson is box office poison? Or rather box office Nyquil.

[@alessandrorinaldi842]

I was just waiting for this video! lately apparently Disney is shamelessly going all-in with the wokeness ! INSANE the B & Switch with Kenobi....

[@ifrenemy6443]

Was about to type the same thing lmao

[@giannisksanthopoulos4300]

So Kenobi is woke now? Because you saw black woman? GTFOOMF

[@notobi-wan8344]

How the hell Kenobi is bait and switch??????? I dont understand. Please explain. And i have watched it 2 times now so dont say watch it yourself

[@tajanisc]

@@notobi-wan8344 Why is this random person so knowledgable of arguably one of the most well guarded secrets in the galaxy in Vader’s identity. because wamen of colour. Also Disney seems to hate the popularity of Luke Skywalker, you expect me to believe that Obi Wan would leave protecting Luke to go after Leia. BS Why is Obi Wan retarded? I know the bare minimum about Star Wars and I’m supposed to believe the dude in this show is somehow seemingly less capable than his older self, and I don’t mean old in terms of experience, I mean physically

[@Soyuz2578]

Or the fact they played the race card with all the subtlety of a wire brush to your haemorrhoids

[@emank03]

I honestly feel bad for Chris Hemsworth man

[@padenbang7375]

Don't. He's well payed and gets more tang than any one man can handle. I'm sure he's just fine 😉

[@GigglingStoners]

Why, he signed up to have his character shat on.

[@garytsang5673]

'Female Thor' is as dumb of a name as calling the 'actress' playing 'female thor' as 'female Chris Hemsworth '.

[@azurebadger]

Dumb being the key word. This is what happens when you limit you intellectual capacity to an overly simplified framework prescribed by an ideological cult. One where thinking is crushed by a top down orthodoxy.

[@realistic_delinquent]

I’m doing that from now on

[@rbu2136]

Maybe Thor will cry like Doctor Strange for the parts he’s allowed to be in his movie for being such a bad BOyFriend. And be surrounded by strong women who save him.

[@flarestorm9417]

Well, they could've given her a unique name and identity, but they didn't. In their attempt to elevate diverse characters they actually end up putting them down by making them derivative of existing characters. No one calls Miles Morales Spider-Man, no calls Falcon Captain America, and no one calls Jane Foster's Thor/Female Thor the Mighty Thor.

[@donpietruk1517]

One of the things that bothers me about the way they write most of the female superheroes in much of the Stage IV Marvel is that they take all the attributes of what can loosely be called "toxic masculinity" in a male character and imbue them to the female superhero. They then look at it and call it good. Very few female characters have their own story arc or if they had one in the comics it often gets ignored. The result is often a character we have no interest in because they are literally not interesting.

[@stanza77]

THANK YOU if these females were dudes they’d be considered juvenile and arrogant and unlikable. (Except Tony Stark)

[@S4ns]

Someone tell Lofty that FemThor's thumbnail arms in this vid are more believable than those in the official trailer.

[@bobbysanders8715]

Why do I get the feeling this movie is going to be more about Jane than Thor?

[@GigglingStoners]

Dunno... maybe because it was directed by a woke knuckledragger?

[@TheMaleRei]

Pattern recognition.

[@Dogapillar4Lyfe]

Best decision I've made in recent years. Stopping the giving of my money to movies and franchises that I find disrespectful or terrible.

[@KDKANESV75]

My problem is Thor trained and fought thousands of battles...so SHE gets the hammer and now she can fight like Thor?

[@bijanthegr91]

Thor had so much possibilities...They could've utilized aspects of the comic and the mythology. They could have brought in Thor's children, Magni, Modi, and Thrud (his daughter, if they wanted a female Thor, they could've adapted his daughter especially if they had Sif be Thor's wife). So much wasted for flinting ideologies that will be forgotten when people wake up to embrace Egalitarianism and mock segregating ideologies. Gary, here's something to enrage you even more or make you smile: They could've done this idea if they were truly creative. Imagine that Thor is the last member of Odin's family line. Thor's father, brothers, and sisters have all passed away, so he is the only one who can assume Odin's role as Rune King Thor. As soon as he ascended the throne, his three children gained the broken pieces of Mjolnir that were forged into their weapons, so they could protect the Realms. So, instead of losing One Protector, we gain three. Imagine a passing of the torch that isn't beyond retarded, but more sentimental. Like a father putting his children in charge of his old responsibilities while he is trying to rule Asgard. Additionally, it is worthwhile to study Norse Mythology. That is what pissed me off when Marvel half-assed Thor: Ragnarok. The fight between Loki's children and the Fire Giants on Asgard and throughout the Nine Realms is supposed to be epic and insane, like a Lord of the Rings-style battle. But you idiots continue to reward laziness and stupidity instead of demanding better, since you have to pay them for entertainment. That "idiots" line was directed at the idiots who supported Taikai's desecration of Storytelling.

[@himathegreat2987]

They won't even let thor be a king , bringing his noble children is a far cry. I would rather read the comics, and i loved Magni Thorson . He's a better legacy character of thor rather than jane imposter

[@brianwalker9079]

Taika be like: "ITS BEEN 33 SECONDS SINCE WE TURNED THOR INTO A BUMBLING FOOL AT THE HEELS OF PERCIEVED MINORITIES, RIP HIS CLOTHES OFF NOW."

[@The_Mighty_Fiction]

This is Disney you're talking about. They don't do imaginative, epic, Conan-esque shit like that. They do shit you can slap on the side of a lunchbox or a school backpack.

[@stevencontreras84]

Pfffftttttttt....this is the dumbest take I have seen in my life

[@lop1652]

So I wasn't the only one who hated Ragnarok? Feels good knowing that.

[@RobbyMoTalks]

I'm honestly most annoyed that the beginning of the MCU was actually pretty serious. Then things started to progressively get more and more jokey jokey and that's when it started to crumble for me. The additional push for (LOADS) of female super hero's in the MCU is just icing on the crap cake. I don't mind a few... but not they're REALLY pushing random characters into the limelight.

[@dcmastermindfirst9418]

Seriously what male characters are left??? Strange is it!

[@RobbyMoTalks]

@@dcmastermindfirst9418 Pretty much, smh and he got assed out in his own movie.

[@justaway4271]

@@dcmastermindfirst9418 Spider-Man, Ant Man, Bucky, Falcon (now the new Captain America), Nick Fury, Shang-Chi, Wong, Hulk (but i'm worried that he'll be assed out once She Hulk comes in), Moon Knight, Blade, Black Knight, Thor (yeah he's probably gonna get assed out in his own movie when it comes out).

[@ilikebeanies3499]

It's because Disney bought it pretty much XD

[@tajanisc]

Hilariously enough the Zeus body could work because the gods really jump between “Dad bod and God bod” but the personality/ vibe of the character needs to remain the same. Like if we saw an accurate Zeus, outside of him essentially having a harem, I’d see why Gorr wants to kill him. Also also, do they realise we’ve only had Hela, Odin, Thor and Loki as main gods? I love the God Butcher storyline but uh, we at least could believe one of the previously seen Gods was a douche. What, we’re supposed to buy that because either the Asgardians were so destructive or learn and reasonably care about Zeus and others before their deaths?

[@DrugTalkTV]

Wonder if they will invent a wahmen Hercules.

[@cassius573]

No need. In Butcher Of Gods he is shown murdering unknown gods like a horror movie. First the Native American (unnamed), then the Slavic ones who have names but are not established Marvel characters.

[@tajanisc]

@@cassius573 No as in prior to the story, we have the history of other known gods, so we reasonably believe that there are selfish and undeserving, etc. gods. I’m aware random ass gods we’re getting murked, that story was the first time I learned about a god of the hunt that wasn’t Artemis/Orion

[@yudodis]

I will not "PAY" to watch any M-Sh3-U films. Bait and switch is getting shamelessly predictable. 🤡

[@iasked147]

Wish more people was like you. Then we wouldn't see these garbage movies.

[@darrenmcdowell262]

once your eyes are open and you see it, you cant unsee it. and a joke here and there is ok, but thor movies have been about thor being a laughing stock, to be laughed at, a big bumbling idiot. my excitement level for jane = -10.

[@I_Cause_ConFLICKt]

Abigail Whistler from Blade is one of my favorite Marvel female heroes. Jessica Biel absolutely nailed that role in Blade Trinity. She also got in really good shape and put on legit muscle for that movie like she could seriously kick some ass.

[@crossup13]

Well Jessica Biel is the type of chick that gets into those roles I feel, and she is actually in decent shape IRL naturally I think. Her action movies are decent for what they are if you only expect summer explodey madness. Also I'd wife that, she's sexy af

[@Kurtsg10]

Hilariously, Marvel had almost nothing to do with that movie, but Biel was only 21-22 while Portman was 38- 40 (not sure when it was filmed). But I agree on the Whistler's daughter character. I do enjoy that one too despite its massive flaws and troubled production.

[@sonoftherabbitpeople4737]

I have always thought the very idea of a "female Thor" is a stupid one. I mean grade school kids would laugh at the idea if they were allowed to. Thor is the guy's name. It is not a woman's name. It is Thor. It is as stupid an idea as a female Peter Parker, or a female Clark Kent. I'll stop now before I give those fools any ideas.

[@craigwelter5862]

Man, I would have loved to have seen a few of those 500 times when Thor saved the earth in a movie, instead of skipping right to making him into a joke.

[@cstorvold]

Ok, I missed the controversy about her arms, why are we supposed to care if they are digitized?

[@GustEdgeOfficial]

It honestly doesn’t matter in the long run, these guys just want to find a reason to get angry

[@daveofyorkshire301]

The guy who went through the entire story of his own redemption to be worthy of his hammer, then stays throughout the entire MCU as the big guns, then hands his kingdom and people over to an alcoholic ex-Warrior who refused to return home after a self imposed exile of ages (and I'm talking ice ages). Only to loose his hammer to a female copy of himself who has been oddly missing throughout the story and OH-YEH DONE NOTHING TO EARN OR DESERVE THE HAMMER!!!! Will someone explain why Thor is still relevant now? He's gone from a singular character standing out from the others as a definitive hero, with a weapon enchanted and unique to him, that is now available to Vision, Captain American and now a gender switched copy of Thor, so even Thor is irrelevant and can be switched out, why should we care? There is no story, there is no character Hollywood deemed him interchangeable, so he obviously isn't relevant! Why should I care what happens next to someone I haven't spent years watching? ITS NOT THE SAME CHARACTER, IT HASN'T DONE ANYTHING NOR IS IT WORTHY OF ANY RECOGNITION! They're just highjacked a role and parachuted in a replacement...

[@offlineraided]

Lofti was definitely groomed when he was younger. All the red flags are there! 1. Anime girl profile pic 2. Supports Woke propaganda 3. Has the most un-hetero sus takes on any topic 4. Voice sounds like a power bottom

[@LarryBonson]

Now that you mentioned it is suspect.

[@femcel101]

Don't worry they will come to their senses when no one goes to see woke M-She-U movies

[@trukeesey8715]

I saw female Thor comic in 1990s. None of this is new. It goes back maybe even thousands of years. "Satan's kingdom is a queendom." -- Pastor Peters

[@Daminous_Games]

It's sad to see how the once great MCU is being turned to the agenda pushing, race swapping and endless crying M-She-U. Just watching the trailers and images for the M-She-U including the destruction of Thor is disgusting. It makes you think what the budget was and what it was actually spent on as it sure wasn't spent on Thor 4

[@teodormajewski3566]

Still Cap got better ass than FThor...

[@The_Mighty_Fiction]

It's not sad, it's inevitable. These are the death flails of a genre running its course. Westerns, musicals, film noir, it comes to all of them. You can always smell it when the deconstructionist stuff hits the fan. For Westerns, it was movies like 'High Plains Drifter' and 'The Wild Bunch. Musicals had 'Cabaret' and 'All That Jazz.' So how does fare like 'The Batman' and 'The Boys' look in that light? The cape genre's best days are in the rear view mirror. They had a decent lifespan (twelve years since 'Iron Man,' longer than that if you count the earlier standalones this century like 'Spider-Man' and 'X-Men') but eventually, audiences get burned out on this shit, especially when it's the same damned movie over and over again. "Hey, kids, who wants to see Thor go on a journey of spiritual growth to find himself _again?"_ "😐...What else is on?"

[@teodormajewski3566]

Siill Hulk have no pi, like a Grendel, when they model him some it would be OVER and world will sink in degeneracy. Probably...

[@peterparker9954]

The budget was spent on other Disney+ shows Now we have more quantity instead of quality

[@Daminous_Games]

@@peterparker9954 Yea and you can see the state of the so called quantity 🤣

[@JP-vj7fp]

The goat driven chariot isn’t accurate to the comics. It’s accurate to the bloody thousand year old Norse mythology. Seriously, I think Thor fandom would do well to argue their cause by highlighting just how disrespectful Disney has been not only to a comic book, but to the culture and heritage of an entire ethnicity.

[@Usapyon_0719]

being of Norwegian decent , I completely agree with you

[@claycollins9852]

White culture, white heritage so it's OK.

[@moserfugger6363]

Yeah, i'm from germany and norse mythology is pretty close to our heart. Dor me it never was a problem if there were new interpretations. if a story is a couple of thousand years old and already told countless times, it's pretty much unavoidable that it will be changed up sooner or later. but what annoys me with those new Hollywood interpretations are the double standards and the sheer hypocrisy. They want to be sooo modern and edgy, but treat myths of black, asian and muslim cultures like a holy thing. There is ridiculous stuff in any culture. If Hollywood thinks a goat driven chariot is funny, that's okay. That doesn't bother me and it actually can be used in a really funny way for entertainment. Some muslim guy riding a unicorn would also be absolutely hilarious - but those brave Hollywood writers will never touch that. ;) Greetings from Germany

[@beng9411]

Its whiten culture so its ok

[@imeralvarado4645]

I don’t care for it. Not that serious

[@Rosseboi]

Maybe it's me but I find it hilariously ironic they made Jane into a female Thor because they wanted to make a statement about equality......then feel the need to digitally buff her to appear more masculine. It just proves as hard as they're trying to push 'the message' subconsciously they know it's all BS. They tripped over themselves ;)

[@theALTF4]

is so the raimbow'tards pretending to be women feel more confortable.... and it totally worked in TLOU2 and marvel comics from 5 years ago to today 😉😉😉😉😉😉👌 yyyup, a complete ̶f̶a̶i̶l̶u̶r̶e̶ success if u ask me

[@turbotrup96]

What's sad is that there are males that are turned on by this and are swarming social media.

[@lukewalken1316]

​@@turbotrup96 Thank you and there lies the problem

[@blackfox1320]

It's crazy Portman didn't even bother to workout for it. How will they CGI her arms for a whole film?

[@fhirdvnk7327]

How did they want to make a statement? It’s literally just a female character in a movie and you incells are mad for some reason.

[@Hela13]

I wanted so bad to like this movie...but, I was so disappointed at how bad the writing, story line and even lazy attempts at humor. A terrible movie! Can Disney stop their gay agenda?

[@godemperorofmankind3.091]

what agenda is that exactly? was there a 20 minute scissoring scene? no? then what fucking agenda?

[@Hela13]

Every movie has to have a woman kissing another woman. They also push their sex lives. In this movie, Valkyrie talks about how much she loved her ex girlfriend which had nothing to do with Thor's movie plot. In the dialogue it looked like it was written in just to put something there...but this should have been Thor's dialogue....

[@mindfulnessrelaxationmedit1943]

I’m sick of Disney’s forced fed feminism.

[@TurboKid_2010]

Marvel: *Shows powerful female characters, even with good writing* Everyone Else:"m-ShE-U iS dEaD, mArVeL iS nOw WoKe yada yada yada!!!!!!!!!"

[@obrians-brown1307]

The part where Gorr says you are not like the other god's I've killed in the trailer. Pretty sure he's talking to Jane (or Valkyrie)

[@clamhammer4277]

It’s not that there couldn’t be awesome heroine’s in the MCU. There are so many solid examples out there in cinema. It’s just that these writers are snowflake shut-in’s who’ve never been in a real fight and therefore don’t understand the basic mechanics of bravery, strength, and courage. They write what they know, which is why these movies and shows are all introspective diatribes laced with quips for levity…

[@crazydiamond8654]

I mean the directors of the male characters have never been in a real fight either. Most people dont get into a real fight in general.

[@able3331]

There was a awesome heroine until the butchered Black Widow in her own movie and pushed the release date out to make way for Cap. Marvel's movie.

[@MrBurgerPal]

well said

[@clamhammer4277]

@@crazydiamond8654 🤷‍♂️

[@andrewgreeb916]

It's disappointing better writers aren't given chances, while nepotism gives idiots positions or they find compliant writers.

[@HolsovanUltimate]

"I really hated fat Thor" Hello, Scandinavian here. Reminding you that Thor in mythological origin was a drunk fat man that battled and partied around constantly. I have no problem with fat Thor but and no I do not stand with woke SJW shit. Just saying. I appreciated the connection to my country.

[@darkzak47]

I’ve said it before, I will say it again BOYCOTT ALL FUTURE MARVEL MOVIES! Let the nonexistent audience they’re trying to appeal to with this crap come support it. After a while the studio can only lose so much money

[@MrExuvia]

Yeah, like you boycotted Captain Marvel, but boom, 1 billion dollars. News flash my little sexist snowflake, general audience doesn't care about any of this shit you Fandom Menace whine about, you're just a loud minority everyone makes fun of, deal with it. Boycott never works. If you're so scared about women existing, then I suggest you to stop watching movies in general

[@senister14]

It's sad watching such a great franchise die before our eyes.

[@heraldofwar]

Funny how nearly every man has to get jacked and working out like crazy so they look like a superhero and the women just get everything handed to them included - CGI muscles!

[@3MrNiceGuy15]

That's how the comics are

[@ricardokojin7]

@@3MrNiceGuy15 Or life in general

[@3MrNiceGuy15]

@@ricardokojin7 sure

[@enochroot9438]

new game: go watch the film and take a shot every time you cringe at a MSHEU moment...you'll be thrown out of the Cinema for being drunk within the first 45 mins