Ferrari DCT Repair: Info and Kits to Repair Getrag 7DCL750

[@DjCrunchtime]

Thank you so much for this video. My 2018 amg gtr has 19k miles and when I need to rebuild it, I’ll def have your shop in mind. Thanks again!

[@markseymour747]

Thank you for publishing this video and all the work you and the others did to make fixing this transmission more accessible. Just wish I had this 2 years ago.

[@HollywoodMechanic]

Did you purchase a replacement trans? It's definitely disappointing that Ferrari would rather ship a heavy gear box to europe and back, causing tons of pollution, when the gearboxes are perfectly able to be rebuilt anywhere with a good shop. I hope to help force their hand to make parts available.

[@markseymour747]

@@HollywoodMechanic I found a shop in the SF bay area that repaired it. They replaced the SAP module and speed sensor.

[@HollywoodMechanic]

@@markseymour747 Nice. I would highly recommend getting oil analysis performed on each of those new fluids if you haver put 2 years on it. If these sealed bearings were not replaced, or if they were replaced with out the special speed ratings, then they will be producing a lot of iron ore in the gear box that will cause the new speed sensor to fail or the bearings themselves will fail causing shafts to come loose and grenade the box beyond repair. Also, the analysis will let you know if you have fluid leaking between the two. That special double lip seal that I have in my kit is not available through ferrari. I found a guy trying to sell them on ebay for $250 a piece. I can get them for around $75, but the best thing to do is just order the whole kit. It comes with everything.

[@markseymour747]

Yeah I am due for a fluid change and it would make sense to send a sample to blackstone to see if there is any iron in the fluid or if it is mixing.

[@HollywoodMechanic]

@@markseymour747 use oil analyzers Inc. It's like $30 includes shipping, wear metals, viscosity and oxidation and nitration. Black stone charges more for some of those

[@jamesbambury]

Thank you for the video and information. My SLS had its trans replaced 2 years or so ago and I change the fluid this year just because it was due due to the age of the car. See you in a few years when I need it rebuilding.

[@HollywoodMechanic]

Change it regularly and you'll have a good 8 to 10 out of it. Mercedes is reasonable with the price. I think it's $14k for a rebuilt unit but ferrari is asking $40k for the same thing

[@jamesbambury]

@@HollywoodMechanic thanks, that tallies with a recent repair bill I have seen from one guy who was lucky enough to have it happen under his extended warranty.

[@noahmartin5590]

Very informative and genuinely a well put together video. Thank you .

[@rcgrabbag]

Hey there great info! I have a 2021 F8 Tributo, which I assume has the same potential issues down the road. What would you recommend as an interval to change the gearbox and clutch fluids?

[@HollywoodMechanic]

Most important service item is checking fluid levels at every oil change to catch any internal issues. Clutch fluid should be changed 5 years or 30k miles of routine ownership driving. Gear oil every 2 years, 10k miles. If the car is being driven hard at every drive cycle, I would replace the clutch oil at 10k miles and gear oil at 5k at the minimum with oil analysis being performed to determine wear and subsequently develop service plan with this driving style/environment. If it's being tracked, take oil sample before and after each track session to determine the wear during that session and subsequently develop a service plan based on that information.

[@rcgrabbag]

@@HollywoodMechanic Thank you very much for the detailed reply. I really appreciated you sharing your knowledge of these expesive DCTs and saving someone like me potentially serious trouble down the road.

[@emmanuelestrada1444]

Very informative video thanks for sharing this information

[@mickeygambale6431]

Great info here thanks

[@camwilson8305]

Amazing video as always!

[@DRIVENDAILY14]

Great video strong work.

[@fstmr2trd]

Is it my understanding that every 6 to 8 years or so we need to do this repair? If so, wouldn't that be a flaw in the design? Reason I'm asking this is because I'm in the market to purchase an FF and want to know how I can verify this at the time of purchase. If I have a PPI done will this be an item that will pop up so I can discuss w/ the seller. Any visual signs that can be seen or caught before purchase? Assuming you buy the car and drive it home and I get those error codes would ruin I'd say anyones day. Seems a drivetrain warranty for the entire ownership of these cars are a must. Thanks for the knowledge and info. :D

[@HollywoodMechanic]

Well, you'll be spending millions in legal fees to prove it, and really, seal and gasket failure in any engine or trans is not considered component design failure. You might be able to more quickly and cheaply be able to win a suit about incorrect service schedule since ferrari never recommends changing the fluid but BMW has never lost a suit with their gearboxes and they have been recommending lifetime trans oil since the 90s. It's really lying to the customer and causing the gearboxes to fail more quickly. As far as signs, I've already given them: 8 years old. If it's 8 year or older and has not had a new gearbox installed already, do the rebuild, or at least test the oils looking for signs of major component failure (eg iron for ring and pinion, manganese for clutch ). Just be ready to pay $20k to "service rebuild". The gear box

[@GregAvila1]

I need to get the parts and tools from you, required to knock this out at my shop.

[@christianree83]

Hi @HollywoodMechanic, i have 2011 FF with the p0501 popping on the scanner, No transmission light and shifts gears as normal. I understand you recomend an overhal. The Car is located in Denmark, do you have any partners in Europe or know of repair shops that does similar work? Or do you take transmission jobs from oversea ? what would you recommend ? Thanks in advance

[@HollywoodMechanic]

I do have gearboxes sent in for rebuilds. I do believe there are companies in Europe that are capable of this process and would save money on shipping. I have sold kits to companies in Europe. Let me make some calls. I'll probably not get an answer until next week, since it is the weekend.

[@christianree83]

Hi again, any news on a possible european workshop? Thanks in advance

[@darkclowd06]

@@HollywoodMechanic would love to get an answer for south of france/ italy !

[@carbonmiata2012]

Very good info!

[@nguyennhatquang88]

Would u please share the info of the regular oring diameter so we can Sources out? thank.. I heard some of this transmission has issue with Gear oil mixing with hydraulic oil.. so is that just the seal issue? thank

[@HollywoodMechanic]

You need to rebuild the whole gear box. There are a lot of o rings and the main one is not something u can source. You'll have to have them custom made. Just buy my kit, or you can do what I did and spend a hundred hours and thousands of dollars testing and breaking things until you get it right.

[@QuangNguyen-po2qs]

I have sourced most of the seal from getrag.. I have info how to open it by ferrari video.. step u step by step... so we doesnt need custom any seal... if u want to exchange info I think I and you can coparate. thanks

[@smartautoservicecar7023]

Thx so much for this vidio

[@garage3brothers42]

Hi, you sell special tools for the trans

[@HollywoodMechanic]

Yes. $1150 with shipping. Did you email me?

[@calpremier]

I found your video. I’m about to pull the trigger on a 2011. Didn’t have time to watch the entire thing. I’m down in San Diego if I brought it to you guys. How much would you charge to replace this speed sensor and change the fluids?

[@HollywoodMechanic]

You need to rebuild it. If the speed sensor is gone, then you need bearings and the whole dct system to be rebuilt.

[@faisalalshamsi5521]

I have a 2012 SLS AMG, when the gearbox temperature reaches 28-29F it downshifts and sets the gearbox into neutral and i have to switch off and on the car again. The gearshifts are smooth and fine so it might be a sensor ? I changed the gearbox fluid at Mercedes but it didn’t fix the problem. The gearbox was changed by Mercedes by the previous owner so it has around 30,000mi, and 7 years old

[@HollywoodMechanic]

29 F it should never be. Just sitting outside should be higher than this. I think you mean celcius? But even that is a low value. You need a good technician that knows the gearbox to use the Xentry scan tool and determine what's going on. I can't help you through the KZbin comments section and even a phone call would be a waste of both our time. You won't know the answers to the questions I have.

[@faisalalshamsi5521]

Sorry i mean 183-184F Sure, thank you

[@HollywoodMechanic]

@@faisalalshamsi5521 I have put some thought into your gearbox. I must say, I have very little experience with the Mercedes set up. I only rebuild the Ferrari versions because the Mercedes dealers will sell you a complete rebuilt unit for about what I charge to rebuild the units, so why would they buy from me when for the same price they can buy from the dealer? So keep this in mind. There are definitely software changes between Ferrari and Mercedes as well as some hardware (probably in the cooling system and the differential). With that in mind, what I see when these gearboxes kick into neutral is usually a pressure or clutch temperature fault. You should have codes that help you determine what is going on stored in the transmission module. What I see more of, when the car gets to operating temp, is skipping gears due to incorrect gear position sensor data. A lot of these sensors only malfunction at temperature. Those sensors I have for even mercedes, but you would need to calibrate the gear position sensors that you replace and I don't know if that is an option with anything other than Xentry. The Mercedes dealers are able to replace the Shift panel that contains new sensors, but I believe the new panel comes with a "marriage" file that is uploaded into the gearbox module and tells the car the acceptable positions pre written. On the Ferrari's, I can teach in the positions. I have not tried on Mercedes. All of this to say, carefully view all of your sensors with live data when you are testing and the fault should show itself. Beyond this info, all i can do is look at the car myself which you would have to ship the car here. Or you can just buy a rebuilt box from Mercedes for around $14000 which is a good deal because it needs a rebuild after so much time anyway. Good luck.

[@blklatino93312]

I just got P192D code on my 458, arrrgghh, what are your thoughts in regards to the code ?

[@HollywoodMechanic]

That's low pressure for the CCP. So either a pressure sensor, an o ring, or the paper gaskets leaking. Also, you could have lost DCT fluid causing a lack of fluid to pump. First thing to check is both fluid levels. If they are not significantly low, Ferrari would recommend you replace the CCP for around $10k in parts, or if it's a pressure sensor, then they have started to sell them for $1k each. Regardless, whatever is leaking is the first thing to go, but you should expect more gaskets and sensor failures. My kit comes with all the sensors and o rings and speed and temp sensors and even 4 of the bearings that are the most common to fail.

[@blklatino93312]

@@HollywoodMechanic i will call you today.

[@dwattel]

Hello @Hollywoodmechanic what would you say is the "average" life of these transmission for Cali/458? Ive had my car for 3yr and logged 28,000 miles (daily driver). Had $20k, now i'm at 48k miles. Everyone said it will last the "life of the car". Is this true? Or do I have a "rebuild" coming in my future? I change the 2 fluids in the transmission every 3yrs, and all my other fluids every year. thx!!!!

[@HollywoodMechanic]

8 to 10 years they start having issues. Really depends on the driving style. Changing the fluid regularly is a good strategy. Using a better oil like red line or motul seems to be a good choice but we'll see in 10 years if it extends the life of the sensors. Definitely keep up with your oil analysis to monitor wear.

[@dwattel]

@@HollywoodMechanic I jinxed myself! the red tranny light came on last week - spoke to one of your boys - I have 6 fault error codes and lost 2nd, 4th, 6th and reverse #FML

[@dwattel]

@@HollywoodMechanic Thx - too late! just called your shop; looks like i'll be buying your kit NEXT week. Tranny exploded last week. No R/2/4/6, no pressure on odd gears (after PSI test) - :(

[@wesleyfernandes7688]

where is your shop in wilmington located?

[@wbkoc]

Was wondering the same thing. Any update?

[@Mer.Servise]

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[@rojorampage9994]

Samcrac recommended your channel.

[@GregAvila1]

2016 Ferrari 488GTB 26k mile, gearbox 7DCL750 Getrag Issue: P1800 Parklock. Low Hydraulic pressure Ferrari suggest replacing SAP. Cost labor $3800 drop/open troubleshoot and reinstall, plus any part they find to cause the issue, which may or may not be the SAP I did the gearbox oil change and it worked fine for about 3 month.

[@HollywoodMechanic]

If I understand this correctly, you received the P1800 fault and then did a fluid change and the fault went away for 3 months? If so, the hydraulic pressure used to control all the actions taken in the gearbox (except cooling diff and gears) comes from the DCT or clutch pump and fluid. If you received a fault and then changed the fluid and the fault went away, then more than likely you have a leak of DCT fluid into the gear oil portion of the gearbox. Most likely from the special seals of the DCT cooled bearing in the gearbox (i describe this bearing in the video). When the DCT oil gets low, the DCT fluid begins to foam and cavitate the pump causing a loss of pressure. The hydraulic actuator for the park lock is the furthest item in the hydraulic circuit from the DCT pump, so it could be the reason this is the first fault you are seeing. When you originally found the fault, the proper course of action would have been to check fluid levels on both the gear oil and DCT. At this time you would have seen gear oil high and dct low and should immediately have stopped driving the car to have it disassembled and leak fixed. You should now take this action. Ask Ferrari to check both levels according to the manual (with engine running, all doors closed, parking brake on, brake pedal depressed, reverse gear selected, at 60C for DCT oil). It should be obviously over full in the gear oil side. This means the gear oil will be severely burnt (due to over fill condition) and the viscosity in the range of 10cSt or less (should be at 14, but DCT oil is 7 so when it leaks through, gear oil gets very thin). This will have caused some advanced wear on the pinion and ring gear but as long as no long hard drives were taken under these conditions it is most likely fine. I would recommend rebuilding the gear box fully at this time, but if you decide to go for the cheapest possible repair, Ferrari will have to replace the mid case or the special seals (they might be offering this seal for sale now, but if not, of course I have custom ones made). This is a level 3 DCT repair (same as speed sensor) and is the most advanced. Not all dealers have techs authorized to do this repair. The overfill condition and overheat condition will have wasted the sealed bearings in the mid plate and rear cover as well as the increased pressure and submersion of the bearings in a thin hot oil will have washed out grease required to cool the bearings. If you do find that both fluids are at the proper level and have distinctly different colors (Gear will be brown or blackish, dct yellow/clear), then there is a SAP fault. This costs $6500 from Ferrari. I have a rebuild kit for the SAP for about $1200, but Ferrari will not attempt this repair, and will only replace the unit.

[@GregAvila1]

Thank you so much for your input on this issue. I’ll get with Ferrari first thing tomorrow morning. I’ll due a follow up comment, asap. Again thank you so much..

[@GregAvila1]

Weep holes leak. Ferrari warranty won’t cover it, because they didn’t go that far into the gearbox. So they recommend; Correction: RECOMMEND REPLACEMENT OF REAR CASE SECTION FOR INTERNAL SEALS FAILURE. INCLUDES REPLACEMENT OF OTHER WEAR ITEMS SUCH AS THE AXLE STUB SHAFTS AND SEALS, FLUID FILTER, AND OTHER O-RINGS AND SEALS.

[@GregAvila1]

Weep holes leak. Ferrari warranty won’t cover it, because they didn’t go that far into the gearbox. So they recommend; Correction: RECOMMEND REPLACEMENT OF REAR CASE SECTION FOR INTERNAL SEALS FAILURE. INCLUDES REPLACEMENT OF OTHER WEAR ITEMS SUCH AS THE AXLE STUB SHAFTS AND SEALS, FLUID FILTER, AND OTHER O-RINGS AND SEALS.

[@GregAvila1]

Weep holes leak. Ferrari warranty won’t cover it, because they didn’t go that far into the gearbox. So they recommend; Correction: RECOMMEND REPLACEMENT OF REAR CASE SECTION FOR INTERNAL SEALS FAILURE. INCLUDES REPLACEMENT OF OTHER WEAR ITEMS SUCH AS THE AXLE STUB SHAFTS AND SEALS, FLUID FILTER, AND OTHER O-RINGS AND SEALS.

[@chriskubas2120]

I have a 2011 Ferrari California with gearbox issue. They say it’s the sensor that happens to be welded to body of gearbox And only replacement is an option. Do you agree? Can you fix?

[@HollywoodMechanic]

Nothing is welded. I fix them often. If you've had a problem and continued driving, you may have damage that requires additional parts but I've never exceeded 30k in repair even with removal and installation. And I've had cars where I had to replace parts of the case, differential, clutch and synchros all in one. Still 15 to 20k cheaper than dealer

[@chriskubas2120]

@@HollywoodMechanic so I miss stated the issue. I just talked to Ferrari again and they say it’s a CCP kit via twin clutch issue. And replacement is only option.

[@HollywoodMechanic]

@@chriskubas2120 they aren't allowed to replace the paper gaskets on the ccp. At the dealer they can only replace the whole thing.

[@HollywoodMechanic]

@@chriskubas2120 and there are other gaskets and sensors in your gearbox that are also ready to fail. And bearings. Ask them to do oil analysis on the gear oil and you'll see very high iron content due to the failing bearings. Just remove the gearbox and rebuild the whole thing. Otherwise you'll be paying a ton over several visits

[@chriskubas2120]

@@HollywoodMechanic can you shoot me a rough quote? I will have to ship it from Toronto Canada.

[@dvirakabi879]

How can i talk with you

[@RadhaReshu]

I have new model Ferrari Roma 8 speed dct getrag transmission. Have one problem the car while driving 7th gear not shifting directly shift to 8th gear from 6th gear

[@RadhaReshu]

The car warning engine light and start stop failure. Fault code showing P179E, APP_ SYNCHRO_7TH CAN'T REACH

[@RadhaReshu]

Yes

[@collisionbomb5962]

What is the contact information for your shop in NC?

[@HollywoodMechanic]

Best thing to do is Google Hollywood Mechanic Los Angeles and text the business number and Scott our office manager will coordinate a call if needed

[@collisionbomb5962]

@@HollywoodMechanic Thank you.

[@coldstartsi]

when you spray and cool shaft.. i did it with tool. But rear cover doesn't came apart. Did i need to use little more power on wrench to take apart the cover? im scared to brake the rear cover. tnx a lot for all your videos on YT🎉​@@HollywoodMechanic

[@HollywoodMechanic]

@@coldstartsi no. There is a tool AV8626 that helps with rear covers that don't want to come off. If you don't have this tool, you must be extremely careful to evenly remove the rear cover. Try tapping the aligner studs to loosen them. Also torch carefully the seam around the cover. Then apply a good amount of torque with the cover puller and then use a chisel to tap the seam and get it to start coming apart. Then when pulling with the tool, make sure the cover is evenly pulling apart. If it is more on the right side than the left, it will bbind up and you must remove the torque, straighten and try again

[@PatKaz98]

How much do you guys charge to fully rebuild one?

[@HollywoodMechanic]

If it's off of the car, $12500

[@PatKaz98]

@@HollywoodMechanic does that include the clutch packs and everything or just the seals and sensors replaced?

[@HollywoodMechanic]

@@PatKaz98 syncros are an additional $3000. Clutch pack is an additional $4200. Most of the time these are not needed from what I've seen but it's a good idea to get oil analysis done on both fluids if they aren't mixing yet and pull codes and data from the car before removing the gear box. The synchros can be measured out of the car to determine wear. The clutch is a little more difficult to measure but can be done.

[@YassineNageume-yp3or]

Hello, how are you? I have a problem with the Ferrari California F149 p0501In tronsout speed too high

[@HollywoodMechanic]

Speed sensor. But just rebuild it or it'll be out again soon for other parts

[@YassineNageume-yp3or]

Is it possible for a picture please of this speed sensor ☺️

[@HollywoodMechanic]

Just Google ferrari dct speed sensor. You must know how to use Google, you found this video

[@camwilson8305]

Sending you a 458 challenge evo unit ASAP

[@ronniejarvis2679]

Has anyone tried a different fluid that isn’t caustic?

[@HollywoodMechanic]

We're using different fluid. We'll see how long it lasts the my rebuilt units over a long time. But it just seems to be the nature of dct fluid. All gear oil is acidic. But porsche also has a problem with their shift shaft position sensor failing. They use a different fluid.

[@RadhaReshu]

Hi good afternoon sir

[@Mer.Servise]

Добрый день.

[@Mer.Servise]

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