Fiancee Made SERIOUS Claims Against Me To Hide A Secret r/Relationships

[@mbyerly9680]

The fiancé was more concerned about her friend getting in trouble than destroying OP's whole life. That says everything to me. I hope OP dumps her.

[@batmanjunior456]

He did

[@mistysgamingchannel9918]

Agreed

[@cheyannatillman3826]

@@batmanjunior456 he broke the engagement but there's no update as to whether or not he fully left her or if he tried to work it out. We can only hope he did the smart thing

[@nataliereeves3594]

I have to agree that is a major red flag. Also, from what was said by her dad about her, she is escalating her crappie behaviour, and because she's not being called out on this, she will continue to do so. Op run and don't look back.

[@valeriehopkins644]

How could he even consider just postponing wedding. Dump her ass and get the 4377 out of dodge. Pyscho!

[@pirateadam3686]

Story 1: OP is *extremely* lucky - and dumping her is the minimum I would do. Suing her for slander is also up there. All it would take is one person's social media to be open and connected to someone else and suddenly he's arrested, jobless or worse. And not "throwing her friend under the bus"?! Great priorities there. Imagine they had kids and the friend did this saying he was a child abuser or paedophile. That shit ruins men's lives as soon as someone accuses them.

[@pugsabi]

1000% These lies can have horrible repercussions! I've heard stories where a mother claimed the father was sexually abusing the children, not realizing that that her children would have to be checked out for the abuse even if she retracted the story. Thus traumatizing them for no reason.

[@thunderbutt357XD]

and this right here is why as soon as u smell even a hint of stupidity and the vapidness that comes with social media, u dont even bother. cut and run, at full tilt. good thing is, forget hints of stupidity most people reek of it these days. makes the decision pretty easy

[@shadowmist7941]

I know that it’s easier said than done, but seriously, OP would be better off without her. His fiancé put him through all of that bullshit for some dumb prank. I fear for what’s ahead of him if he stays with her. If I were them, I would 100% leave, even if it would take awhile and hurt. This stunt doesn’t speak well of her character at all!

[@susankaempfer8427]

I’d be pissed at my dad if I were op too.

[@WhiteWolf-lm7gj]

Even if it hadn't snowballed into... that, the first gf's plan was just terrible to begin with. Who plans a surprise party by making it seem like you're pissed at the person? Just say you're going to stay with a friend for a few days because they're feeling down, or you're having a sleepover, or literally any other reason.

[@TiffWaffles]

Usually, a surprise party doesn't include making wild accusations that the person they are planning the party for abused and assaulted them.

[@pippo17173]

The worst fucking part is that she could of stop it. But no in the end, she chose her friendship who not only still got the trash fire she deserve, but shows op that she never put him first in the relationship. She made Op's choice more easy and she knows it. She will be forever alone if she doesn't get her head out of her butt.

[@artcasual99]

I don't know why but I feel it is a common trope that someone will distance themselves from their significant other to make the surprise "even better". I think it's stupid that sometimes in media people will outright ignore someone when throwing them a surprise party.

[@LunaMane]

To add to that, her friends are equally terrible because they enabled her making a false accusation. Like it's a cutesy thing to do. Screw that noise! If they got married and she did something bad she would use OP as a shield to protect herself.

[@artcasual99]

@@LunaMane I thought the update reveled that when asked what she would say when people asked why she was mad at him she made an offhanded comment about him being rough, you know as a joke, and it was her friend who started the rumor behind her back. But that could just be he throwing her friend under the bus to save herself.

[@aleksandarbradaric4925]

Story 1: She didn't want to throw her friend under the bus, but threw her FIANCE under the bus? Throw out that trash...

[@rogueshark23]

Too late and I wonder how much that idiot friend reputation took.

[@friendlyneighborhoodshinigami]

Fr she belongs to the streets

[@ggdail]

Story 1: "She is not truly stupid..." Uh, yeah, gonna have to disagree with you on that. If she, at her age, doesn't have the forethought to figure out the massive problems this could've caused, then she certainly doesn't need to be raising children. If OP gets back with her, he's as stupid as she is. I just hope they don't spawn any additional simpletons, we've got plenty.

[@DCD762]

Seconded

[@friendlyneighborhoodshinigami]

​@@DCD762thirded

[@TheBerkeleyBeauty]

Here, here!!

[@RaquellePhillips]

Harsh, but both fair and true

[@MizTameRumors]

When OP wrote that her relationship is terrible with his family now right before we get married I nearly lost it. IS HE FOR REAL?! Dude!!! She let people think you were assaulting her, as a prank! And you only know because someone else ( not your future wife ) considered it messed up and told you. She'd have nuked your whole life with abuse claims rather than let her friend look stupid. LEAVE. HER.

[@pequenaesposa3286]

It's cuz the friend never said that that's why

[@83gemm]

Romantic love is a god damn mental illness. It works out great if both people are human beings, but, man…

[@friendlyneighborhoodshinigami]

​@@pequenaesposa3286she said she didn't want to throw her friend under the bus did you watch the vid?

[@pequenaesposa3286]

@@friendlyneighborhoodshinigami I thought it was obvious that the friend is a cover up story

[@voiceofafreeamerica9854]

Story 1: False allegations should be punished. This guy was lucky that it was an accident, and she told the truth. If it was purposeful, like she was covering up stealing his Credit Card, and dug in her heels/doubled down, his life would be over and his reputation ruined. OP needs to Usain Bolt if he hasn't already.

[@voiceofafreeamerica9854]

This is why taking "Believe anyone" to the point of "Guilty until proven innocent" instead of "we must investigate any claim" is absolute bullshit. #FalseMeToos have been weaponized, used by women to get ahead in the workplace instead of putting in the overtime and extra effort to get ahead, and to cover up bad deeds like cheating, for far too long. Look at those college students that were destroyed because because a girl convinced them to Eiffel Tower her in the bathroom at a party then lied when a boy she liked and wanted to date showed up at the same party. Hell, look at the Johnny Depp/Amber Heard thing. She abused her lesbian lover before getting with Johnny Depp, abused him to the point that she cut off a fingertip of his on accident, then accused him of abusing her. And his career was destroyed over it.

[@voiceofafreeamerica9854]

@those replying to this are trolls Precisely my point. And i'm fucking sick of it. This is why I went my own way and live with a herd of cats, even run my own business mowing and weed-eating yards for a friend's apartment complexes when I have a computer science degree and multiple certifications. Anything to stay away from women and risk this happening to me.

[@sopadumacacoumadelicia5]

@@voiceofafreeamerica9854 That's incel material right there. Not all women are like that, just like not all men are bad. Sure, both got very bad apples but still. Don't be like that, it doesn't make you very good either when you generalize an entire gender. And don't get me wrong, I'm down for false crap to be punished, it's just that, as I said, saying an entire gender will do that to you? Nah, that ain't ok. I could say the same about men being abusive but we both know that's not true. It's cool that you are living your own life but think about how this could emotionally hurt you or others in the future. Open up, give people a chance. I used to be kinda like you? And I didn't have a bad life, not at all, but my life defo got better when I didn't have the thoughts of "entire group of people=bad" off of my shoulders. You got it, son.

[@JordanDragonAs]

This wasn't an accident

[@StefenBruh]

@Tiffanie yes you can. If you can prove something IS then you can prove something ISNT. Jesus Christ woman, learn to fucking read.

[@Swnsasy]

What kind of ADULT, ADULT thinks something up like this that could cost him his job, his FREEDOM, and reputation? To tell people he was beating her?! I didn't think there was that much stupid inside one person! Damn I really wish I was right but unfortunately, I'm not.. Smh Just say I broke my leg and I'm at friends house come get me! When he got there say, SURPRISE not claim he's a woman beater!! Sheesh.. Idk if he should stay and work it out but whatever it is I hope it works out..

[@Loaves_of_Cat]

Adults are known to do incredibly moronic things

[@itsjustmaddisen]

For the love of god he should NOT forgive her and stay. If she’s willing to do this just to hide something, can you imagine what she’ll do if she’s mad at him and wants to get back at him. *HELL. NO.*

[@brigidtheirish]

I know, right? I'm an Aspie and far too familiar with saying stupid and/or rude things without meaning to, but *nothing* like this and I *always* try to make things right the *instant* I realize I screwed up. What the absolute *hell?*

[@itsjustmaddisen]

@@brigidtheirish And her dad said “she’s not stupid,” but she seems dumb, selfish, immature and entitled. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck it’s a duck lol. Also, only manipulative people do this too so they can get sympathy (I’ve disowned family because they’ve lied about serious things).

[@Swnsasy]

@Random Platypus with Internet I would laugh but with her, I can't put nothing past her!! Lol

[@kimberlyterasaki4843]

I'm so happy to hear that OP tore his grandma apart, I hadn't heard the most recent update to the story so hearing that Hag get called out is *chef's kiss* perfecto!

[@zerofate9669]

Holy Shit ikr, grandma was the worst in this story along side ops brother. The brother ex wanted to leave and not marry him from the beginning. Putting her on the spot in front of hundreds of people thinking she wont say no. That's trapping, holding her hostage with a marriage she didn't want. The grandma doing all this for the true bad egg, bad seed in the family is plain sad and pathetic. The brother is such a manchild, crying all the time to parents so he can have his way but once they stopped, he cries to grandma knowing she will always have his back on everything, even if he gets into legal trouble. I'm betting that if the brother shot n killed someone and he's arrested for murder, she'll spin some bullshet lie how it was op doings, it was pure self defense, or he didn't do it. The brother and grandmother needs a major reality wake up call. I'm glad OP, his wife, and the parents are doing better. I'm also glad the parents got their heads on straight and act together.

[@Icalasari]

@@zerofate9669 I kind of hope that the grandmother ends up homeless and abandoned by her golden grandson, and realizes she is all alone, forced to beg for the rest of her short, miserable life, abandoned by literally everybody And then after she dies and the brother loses the only person who ever cared for his sick, twisted self that he loses his job and ends up homeless too, beaten by some thugs he owes money to, and is permanently broken for the rest of his sad, pathetic life God this story pissed me off and it was cathartic that OP won in the end

[@sharyebethancourt3660]

_RIGHT?!_ 💯🎯 That “I don’t understand” line would’ve driven me insane. And I can’t believe she also tried to end the relationship. What a miserable old hag.

[@paulman34340]

@@Icalasari We know what's going to happen as this same story has happened over and over again! Grandparent/parent picks the WRONG golden child, lives to regret it when their too old, fragile and now ISOLATED from defending the parasite that the parasite starts to exploit and abuse them, in the end their either ABANDONED completely to their horrible fate and abuse or saved by the scapegoat! My own grandmother rest her soul made this mistake with her eldest daughter, my aunt, favoring her while my mother was the scapegoat! Auntie didn't hesitated the moment she caught ole Al to take EVERYTHING from her and throw her into a shitty home till Ma got her out and called my aunt out on this behavior! Grandma ALWAYS supported Auntie for a century and this is how she was repaid, just the broken look on her face! Even with the Dementia she was aware of the betrayel and I think it effected her survival rate as even with ole Al, she was expected to make it another 20 years (she was 70) and a health complication did her in! My aunt then against her final wishes made a BIG show of her funeral to virtue signel how much she "loved her mother" and well, my aunt was like a second mother to me when I was young, but as I got older, her worse traits started to become more noticable! Grandma's final days, death and funeral completely broke the pedestal I had of her and I haven't talked to her since (it's been a decade since she died now, I just can't find it in my heart to forgive my aunt, but I think it's more then just grandma that broke the camels back for me with her!) But looking at his older brother behavior and manchild attidute, he won't hesitate to betray and exploit her if given the chance! Her "I don't understand" is her playing stupid cause OP is now to old for her to manhandle anymore. She likely talked bad about OP because she realized his success to the loser Elder Son she favored and tried to sabotage through lying, humilating herself in that Fiancee/Soon to be Wife didn't believe anything and chose not to tell him to keep the peace, now that he knows this, it cemented that the old crone can enjoy having a failure parasite finish her off and then scavage her remains like a Vulture when all is said and done, she's going to do mental olympics in her mind to push back her common sense on how her bad decisions landed her in caring for a loser who doesn't care, nor will ever care to help her out and exploit her! Hope she's proud of herself! Getting old is more about lucky then being wise sometimes! She was lucky to get old, no need to treat her with respect she hasn't earned

[@Kimi_Khaos]

Yeah, gf in story 1 only has herself to blame. As a survivor, myself, of a decade long, abusive relationship, it pisses me off to no end when people throw around abuse accusations, regardless of the context, when they aren't true. Gf should have quashed any of the abuse claims, first and foremost, as soon as she became aware of them. Saying things like, "it just got too out of hand, too quickly" or "I didn't know how to stop it" are nothing more than excuses and blatantly show whose reputation gf cared most about (her's and not OP's). It doesn't really matter who made the first, false claim against OP, if his gf really cared, she'd have publicly renounced any abuse claims as soon as they became known to her. I can also understand OP's reluctance to end the relationship. As I said before, I stayed with my abuser for 10 years. Leaving was infinitely harder than staying, which makes absolutely no sense to the average person. It still doesn't even make sense to me and I cannot explain, to this day, why I stayed for as long as I did. I can only say that it finally clicked, after one particularly bad fight, that if I didn't leave on my own, two feet, my only way out would be in a body bag or on a stretcher and I didn't want to die. He'd thrown me around the room after I caught him in my bed with one of our neighbors, broke my hand and police, who were called by a concerned neighbor who heard my screams, threatened to take me to jail for "lying about this upstanding, working man," although my marks, scars, bruises and the broken hand were clearly visible. I realized then that even the police wouldn't care/help, so I only had myself to count on to survive and get out. It was the most scared, disheartened, but also freeing feeling I think I'd ever felt, but I made it. I'd love to say that it was all sunshine and rainbows after that, but that would be a blatant lie. It's been so incredibly hard and some days (or weeks), I don't even want to get out of bed as the trauma replays on a loop in my head, but I try to keep putting one foot in front of the other in those times, so I can skip, jump and dance at other times. When people like the gf allow a false narrative in regards to domestic violence, it makes it that much harder for those of us truly in these situations to come forward and be believed. It makes it easier for the abuser to get away with their violence. Gf deserves every hard look and side eye she gets for the part she played in this. Hopefully, she does better by the next man who comes along. OP doesn't deserve to deal with everything he'd have to put in to try to rebuild the trust his gf destroyed. Best OP found out the true character of gf before the marriage, bullet dodged.

[@KK-jl9sz]

Good for OP not standing for that. I don't understand what went thru that woman's head. She could have said she was on a girl's trip, a solo trip to decompress, a family emergency, anything other than "he was too rough during sex" which puts blame and shame onto the OP. Hes better off without her

[@threeducks157]

"She is not truly stupid, she just says and does a whole bunch of stupid shit" hmmm... but in all seriousness, accusations like like are social murder specially for me (sorry if i come off as sexist) luckily for op it never involved law enforcement, how ever others are not as fortunate, in my case apparently having money and being young painted a huge target on my back for ppl who wanted an easy payday. My lawyer is a partner from my mom's sister firm with a whooping 30 years of experience, he told me this : even after all accusations and charges have been proven false you have to go on the legal counter attack, even if this goes nowhere in court you have to have a public record of the dishonesty of the other party in case this comes up i. The future.

[@itsjustmaddisen]

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it’s a duck lol. She’s beyond dumb at this point-

[@wmdkitty]

Only an abuser would pursue an accuser through the courts, though...

[@aether610]

@@wmdkitty Not true at all. There are things called slander and libel. If you slander someone's name to paint them as something, be it an abuser, r*pist, p*dophile, ect when you know what you're saying about them is a lie, then you are completely open to being sued as a result and have to pay for it. Why should someone be allowed to endanger the safety, job, and freedom of the person they're slandering and not have to pay for it?

[@fabiocandelori9163]

@@wmdkitty Oh, please, that way of thinking only results in the ones falsely accusing an innocent to suffer no consequences for their dishonesty.

[@fishbowl5308]

@@wmdkitty fuck kinda logic is that. A person has every right to try and clear their name. Accusations like that kill your social circle. Literally it will follow you around unless you stomp it out hard

[@thebladeofchaos]

the second story........OP won. that's the only way you can put it. Grandma got put in her place, Brother got what he deserved and the parents understand exactly what they've done and how to get back to normality. They showed Grandma she has no power. and that's all she wanted. the power. well they took it away. and now what is she left with? nothing. nothing but memories

[@memeking7273]

Bet in a month there will be a third update on how Grandma tried to destroy the wedding

[@pippo17173]

This entire situation really is needed because now people in op's family now finally got their asses out of their heads and see that grandma was the real problem. Its also disturbing how much she shown he hates op for trying to lie to her fiance how bad he is. Its obvious to me that her goal is to make her brother be the top while op who she sees is a bad egg to be put down. I hope she is ready because brother is gonna mooch her till she is break.

[@mammyewok]

am i the only one suspicious at the parents sudden turnaround?please..they know where the money is..

[@dejaxnab6473]

Not true... She has a mooch of a grandson to look after now...

[@StefenBruh]

The absolute best part of this? Granny is definitely dying alone. Seems like the family doesn't want her in their lives at all. And guess what, I'm willing to bet my nutsack that the brother would be too selfish to show up at her deathbed. She's literally going to die alone saying "I don't understand why they aren't here, I'm dying". Hahahahahaha. I hope she's scared and alone in her final moments. That's just deserts. When you turn your family on each other for FUN, you deserve to die alone, scared, lonely, and regretting your life.

[@noydb-1]

I'll admit at first I assumed she was cheating and using the false allegations to make herself the victim. But I think the reality might be just as bad. She saw that his name was being dragged through the mud with abuse claims, and did absolutely nothing to clear his name, just to save a surprise party. So she didn't want to throw her friend under the bus, but had no problem driving the bus over him and backing up to finish the job. I think that kind of says where OP actually stands. Not sure this is savable, as OP even said, does he want to waste years deciding if she can be trusted? If you're going to have to do that anyway, you might be better starting at zero with someone who hasn't done something like this to you.

[@angelaa7388]

Wow. The brother in story 2 wanted to corner his (ex)girlfriend and propose to her in public so she would feel pressured to say yes. What a manipulative individual. Sounds like Grandma has been calling the shot from day 1, and convinced everyone that OP is bad and his brother is the golden child. If she was that abusive to her grandson, imagine the psychological damage she did to her kids.

[@joy4210]

gonna bet if that ridiculous plan had gone through, the ex-gf would have been publicly shamed by grandmother and being made to seem like a "blind bitch who can't even realise what an honour it is to be marrying her all-perfect never-made-a-mistake-ever grandson". ex-gf dodged that tactical nuke very wisely.

[@savagen7gamer807]

How do you feel about story 1

[@dianemartel5205]

I’ve heard/read a story similar to Story 1, but it was the guy who seemed to go crazy, accusing his wife of all kinds of abusive behaviour; turned out he had been cheating on his wife and thought this was a great way to break up with her and blame her for what was happening.

[@andredunbar3773]

Did that guy claim to have an aversion to being touched and then accuse his wife (the OP) of being abusive after she hugged him as a reaction to good news?

[@dianemartel5205]

@@andredunbar3773 Yeah, that guy.

[@kellypatterson8506]

Those type of pranks get people thrown in jail beat up and killed

[@Orbitalmercury]

So true. I'd hate to think how many innocent people have experienced this and even ended up in prison. I know that they've found not everyone on death row is guilty but can't prove their innocence.

[@TsukiKageTora]

I hate how much this is brought around but I’m sure if OP has evidence, he can sue his ex for slander. Not ok for anyone to do this to someone who doesn’t really deserve it

[@TiffWaffles]

I don't like how OP in this story makes the assumption that just because police weren't called, that they don't have a online presence, either. Police are actually incredibly active on social media and do have their police organisations on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok... to name a few. If somebody concerned about OP's fiancee felt like she was in danger and couldn't reach out to police out of fear of being put in a dangerous situation, they could have linked to local police and they would have responded. Many lives are saved by police who are alerted on these platforms that somebody's in danger and can't leave a situation. Whether because they have no access to a phone, can't get their neighbours or friends to help them, etc. If an abuse victim can get access to a computer, all they need to do is send a message to their local police via Facebook messenger. Police are always active on SM just in case they are needed for any emergency where a victim can't speak or get help. To my knowledge, you have to directly send them a message as this happened to a woman that one of my classmates knows where she was held hostage by an abusive ex partner and needed help- but if you link directly to the police and they feel that there needs to be action, they will respond appropriately.

[@bgcorporation]

Suing for defamation would be incredibly difficult to do. For one you'd have to prove malice. Then you'd have to prove monetary loss. It wouldn't be worth it.

[@TsukiKageTora]

@@bgcorporation there is malice when she literally didn’t do anything to stop it and still allowed all the posts online to be still up. She is an accomplish to her pos friend

[@TsukiKageTora]

@@TiffWaffles I don’t think OP made that assumption. They said the police weren’t called and everyone knew about how it was all a lie… the most I think he assumes just because the post was removed means the presence of what was the post wouldn’t be there either. Posts deleted will always be online somewhere

[@LunaMane]

And sue those friends of hers for cosigning this stunt. OP should also make sure to apply for a restraining order and a no contact order, because the former fiance sounds like the type who'd show up to where he works and cold call him to scare him.

[@kaykay8855]

Story 2: it’s amazing that all it took for op’s parents to change was op threatening to financially cut them off. I’m glad that op’s mom finally stood up to grandma (the root of the problem).

[@zebnemma]

Yeah what I got from that story was that the grandma has used the golden child tactic on the mom and her siblings maybe so she's just as much a victim as OP I think. And grandma then somehow convinced mom and dad to take part in her games aswell. And it wasn't until now that the mom (and dad) realized the error of being a part of such a dynamic. That whole family seems to be victims of grandma and generational trauma that keeps repeating because they couldn't break free sooner, it had become too normalized to them over so many years. So it's actually amazing that OP by a miracle managed to open his parents eyes up to make them realize how fucked up all of it has been, and them owning up to their part in it aswell. Very unheard of. I thought for sure that the parents would double down like grandma because admitting to basically abusing one of their sons is not easy. But it seems they are not a lost cause and not totaly psycho like grandma is. Her lack of empathy means she will never admit to fault cuz in her mind she has no faults.

[@Russman67]

I can't imagine how this grew out of trying to hide a surprise party! There's no way to salvage the relationship with this allegation. In fact this will kill friendships all around.

[@kevinnaranek6649]

The girlfriends friends were just as stupidly clueless as she was.

[@gilesclone]

And surprise parties are a dubious idea in any case. I kind of feel sorry for her, but geez that was stupid.

[@msredux]

That relationship is doomed, his family already hates her with reason.

[@itsjustmaddisen]

Absolutely. If I were part of the family, I wouldn’t want her around. She just caused a whole heap of drama for a *surprise.* Can you imagine what she’ll do if she doesn’t get along with someone or gets pissed off and wants to do something about it.

[@groofromtheup5719]

@@itsjustmaddisen she is a legitimate threat to the life and wellbeings of those around her. If I found out a co-worker pulled something like this, I'd be looking for a new job.

[@itsjustmaddisen]

@@groofromtheup5719 Absolutely. She’s definitely self-destructive and if her company doesn’t drop her, she’s going to cause them a lawsuit because of her stupidity and immaturity. I love how the dad even she’s “she’s not dumb” but her actions prove otherwise. She’s foolish and going to cause so much trouble just because she didn’t think it through.

[@ShatoraDragondore]

Story 1: Regardless of saying or splitting OP should ask Ex/Exs family to pay for a background check clean up service to make SURE all posts about her prank are gone so future background checks come up as clean as they are. Posts like that can tank OPs live in the near future.

[@VeraStinson]

For the guy whose fiancé pulled a prank. That was not a prank that you can forgive. He says that he doesn’t know where to go from here, I do. Run away, far, far away, do not marry this woman.

[@callmema14]

The gf in story 2 was feed up. OP'S brother thought he was gonna socially pressure his ex into marriage at his brother's wedding. And he blew his life up by stomping all over his families boundaries. Wow! He sounds like a tool.

[@AnonymousBelle562]

I love how you go off on some awesome tangent sometimes, it makes things more interesting, and enjoyable 😊

[@SidereusOfTheFallen]

It makes this so very personable and more charming! A spontaneous glimpse of our lovely host is always welcome.

[@AyoCeelo]

And he always wants to apologize for doing it. Like no, keep going ☺️

[@DarkbutNotsinister]

It’s like hanging out with a friend. I laugh with him & talk back to him, as if he’s here. I spend A LOT of time alone. I spend A LOT of time with Mark. I talk to myself & my dogs regularly. At least Mark asks what I think.

[@HELLINA-HANDBASKET]

Lol I agree, I love a good tangent, but that's probably because I'm guilty of doing it myself 🤣

[@PrimateProductions]

@@DarkbutNotsinister ok that borders on weird...you probably need to talk to someone...

[@Tammohawk1]

1. What that gal did was slanderous and libelous. It had the potential to ruin OP's life. 2. Holy Schiznit! What a bunch of unnecessary drama!

[@Ospyro3em]

That second story gets crazier with every update! Unfortunately brother and grandmother will never change now, they're beyond redemption

[@ailinfergan]

Story 1: that's a relationship breaker for me if my SO did that to me. There's a lot of things I can forgive, that's not one of them.

[@sophiahumphrey4686]

Story 1: I am glad that he chose to end the relationship. She is so childish to think that her prank was funny. And she ghosted him to protect her friend. Her friend was not wrong posting it on line because she wanted to warn people about the boyfriend. Story 2: The grandma and brother are so toxic. The parents were too, but they ended up seeing how they enabled the brother. I am so glad that he finally blocked his brother and grandma.

[@AndyyWithAY]

I think OP needs to call the wedding off. What she did was horrible. It would have been better if she'd immediately confessed everything and stated it was a moronic prank. But, she didn't. If she had that would be different.

[@philwill0123]

Unfortunately he sounds like sunk cost fallacy. He don't want to start from scratch with new person. Relationship is doomed for both. He can't trust her, and no one would believe a word she says.

[@GIChiyo]

Story 1: In the update I seriously doubt that it was the friends that "randomly" did that, pretty sure the ex-fiancé was 100% to blame...

[@carolroberts4614]

Yes.

[@magma1lord]

She probably used that girl as a scape goat

[@Icalasari]

Nah, I think the girlfriend is honestly just nuclear grade stupid That friend meanwhile should be sued - If she did come up with that all on her own - And I believe she did - she's either criminally stupid or wanted to destroy OP. Either one is dangerous and needs to be dealt with _swiftly_

[@gabebarnes6814]

Wow. OP in Story 2 is freaking awesome. I wish I had the ability to just wham people repeatedly like that (for good reason only, of course, LOL). Like at the beginning of the story he verbally took down his parents and brother, 3 on 1. Just wow.

[@SquareJ86]

I've been waiting for the story 2 update for a while and I have to say, I have never seen an op stand there ground from start to finish like this one. Just wow.

[@JJerseyGirl]

She was more worried about not throwing her friend under the bus than cleaning up that her fiance is not abusive .

[@OZARKMOON1960]

#2 - Because we all know a proposal is the perfect solution to a failing relationship - especially when done at the prospective groom's relative's wedding, in front of friends and family. This is not going to go well for the 'golden' brother and we aren't even out of the first part of the story...

[@patheon9541]

if my fiancee pulled a stunt like this on me i'd dump her right then and there and possibly call the cops....this is not even remotely close to a prank this is life ruining stuff

[@genxlife]

A "prank" like that proves that she can't be trusted. After all, she could do it again and really ruin OP's life.

[@TheMetalWeirdo]

If I were in OP's situation where my partner accused me of domestic violence "As A jOkE" I'd dump them quicker than they could say nuts and press charges against them for slander. Domestic violence are *NOT* something to joke about that willy nilly. And of course, I'd rather drench my body in gasoline and walk on both hot charcoal and broken glass than to go back to such a person who thinks "joking" about your partner beating you is funny

[@alexlibby5087]

I recently learned that sometimes when we exhibit symptoms of a personality disorder (in this story the parent’s narcissism) we may be mimicking them; having learned these behaviors from a guardian with said personality disorder (grandma is narcissistic, her daughter mimics narcissistic behaviors believing them to be normal because she was raised this way) All I can think here is maybe that’s what’s happened with the parents? And upon being able to self-reflect and realize how absolutely messed up their actions were are able to change so quickly. Either way It’s all together a bit tragic; the other brothers behavior and life was probably really messed up and altered by the influence of his grandmother - not an excuse for his inability to recognize his painful actions currently, but can’t help but wonder how different he might’ve been

[@ronraum9320]

The only safe play here is to leave her very publicly over it. Call off the wedding, return the ring. there are people who will forever think OP beat her into changing her mind. Better to burn this bridge then try to repair it and have people thinking she's with you out of fear and that your secretly a violent monster.

[@mindyschocolate]

Rumors aside, planning a surprise party while convincing your SO you’re pissed off at him is completely nuts. Poor judgment.

[@silverwatkins50]

Once on Facebook it is always there. Employers look at your Facebook and it is possible that you will loose an opportunity for a perfect job because her prank says that your are abusive.

[@beege4491]

OMG, LOL. My first thought about the brother wanting to propose at his brother's wedding was that he thought she would not be able to say no in front off family and friends. I was right. What a jerk.

[@francoisgrobbelaar8821]

Story 1. I've listened to this one a few times and one question I have had for a while is: Why didn't OP call his dad out on the lack of trust and support after the whole "prank" thing came to light? If it was me I would have gone very low contact with my dad. He also would have to regain my trust.

[@jjm152]

I didn't see that at all in the story, it looked like the dad asked him to confirm or deny, he denied and the dad... believed him? The person who didn't return his calls was the GIRLFRIENDS dad, not his.

[@Gumbier_Than]

I am so pleased you are just completely raw in your reading. Most channels censor their reading and that leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Let's not forget the waffles are an absolute delicious dish. 😋

[@MarkNarrations]

I understand why other channels do it due to youtube monetization. However I think removing the swears takes away from some of the feelings involved.

[@platinum_noelle]

Repeat after me, friends: abuse allegations are not, and will never be, a "prank". He could've gotten fired. If any future job looks into his social media history and find this, they will not hire him. These are life and career ending allegations. If major media picked the shitstorm up, he would've been absolutely ruined no matter how much everyone involved tried to clarify. Once the allegations are out there in public and in writing, there are plenty of people who won't care about later updates or won't even look at them.

[@kateemma22]

I think we found the dullest light globe in the Home Depot. This woman is UNHINGED!

[@LunaMane]

With Story #1 I really do hope that OP won't ever take his former fiance back. Don't even be friends with her! A person like that will ruin your life over the most asinine crap. As for Story #2 it's awesome how OP stood up for himself and his fiance.

[@beegee1960]

Thé thing that puzzled me ANA PISSED me off about the marriage proposal at his brother’s wedding is how all of them just ignored OP’s fiancé’s wishes in the matter, like she had no say so.

[@Mewse1203]

Story 2:NTA man this story. What do we always say? You 👏don't 👏propose 👏at👏other 👏people's 👏events 👏 Brother proposing just so his girlfriend won't leave him isn't for the right reasons. I'm glad she broke up with him. Grandma is a real piece of work. I'm glad the parents finally pulled their head out of their ass. Edit after drunken update: what an entitled baby. He still can't see that his actions caused all of this, not OP. Edit: good on OP giving thay Vile woman the truth. She uses weaponized incompetence and her tears as manipulation when her brute force tactics don't work. I'm glad OP told her "openly admitting you have a favorite and treating them differently makes you an asshole" because it does.

[@DrawciaGleam02]

Am I the only one who wished the GF heard that grandma supported her ex's idea and set the old woman straight that it would have backfired?

[@GMAMEC]

I now understand that this is absolutely not the right thing to do, but I would not mind a proposal or a baby announcement at MY wedding, anniversary, b-day party, reunion etc. I suppose it depends on the relationship.

[@kennethsjvold9212]

Thats only a problem in US , in the rest of the world is fantastic to propose at a wedding

[@jacearmor5274]

S1: NTA. Good to know when your fiance is more concerned with protecting her friend's reputation than your life.

[@Negasilver]

For story 2, I think the parents only decided to side with him because they were afraid of getting cut off. If OP had just decided to be meek about it, they probably wouldn't have cared that it would mess up his wedding.

[@sukuna-]

Wow so she throws op’s entire life just so her friend wouldn’t be in trouble, such a marriage material.

[@AndyyWithAY]

I'm so glad the brother got broken up with as well. He got everything he deserved. He's a horrible immature person. He needs to grow up! Hopefully this was a wake up call.

[@JordanDragonAs]

Doubt it

[@kevinnaranek6649]

The way he is headed he'll be lucky to end up with a male s*x aid as his life partner.

[@emmys.8323]

Nah, I only hear 'she was trying to play a prank on me' and immediately think: drop that fiance. That’s not a prank, that’s just sick. She could potentially have ruined every relationship he had with friends, family etc. AND could have gotten him arrested with claims like that. Edit: hang on, so she can’t throw her friend under a bus by telling the truth, BUT she can label her fiancé as abusive?

[@srsh12345]

Story 1: He obviously went back to her. Didn't come back to Reddit because he knew everyone would call him out as an idiot.

[@darklightmagus1222]

Story 1: That is not how you hide a surprise party. Either pretend that the party will take place at X location when it's at a different location. On b-day morning, arrive at partner's place and say you forgot you're wallet at the friend's house (party location) yesterday. Friend is at work atm but has a short shift and will meet you guys there at X time to let you in. Spend time together until the appointed time. Surprise him when you all walk into friend's house.

[@crowdemon_archives]

Yea there's so many better ways to do that

[@kevinnaranek6649]

@3:31 "My dad calmly asked me if I've been hitting her. I outright denied it. He said, "are you sure?" " OP: Pretty sure dad. But I have been having trouble with my memory ever since you used to beat me over the head with a baseball bat when I did something you didn't like as a child. DAD: "I never did that!" OP: "are you sure?"

[@taurus3alexis]

My only words for op in the first is “WHY HAVENT YOU RAN?”

[@Knives7777]

Story1: 200% sure he got back with her... truly spineless

[@slippyquack7672]

That first story is for the people who'd say "why would anybody lie and make something like that up" in defense of false allegations. False allegations make actual cases of abuse that much harder to take serious and while causing more damage to the falsely accused while the accuser gets off scott free.

[@ronprince1478]

I had a FWB for a few months that said her previous boyfriend had knocked her around, she didn’t know I knew him. We went our separate ways but she was always going to come back (holidays), she also knew that if she wanted to end it she only had to say goodbye and all would be sweet. When I tried to contact her she would hang up (no words). The third time I called a guy answered and said he would get me for what I did to her (physical violence) I told him that’s what she will tell her next boyfriend about him. I contacted the guy she had been with before me, he said that was the same story she had told him at the start of their relationship. ALL SHE HAD TO DO WAS SAY GOODBYE.

[@itsjustmaddisen]

“She’s not stupid.” If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck… it’s a duck. For the love of god he should NOT forgive her and stay. If she’s willing to do this just to hide something, can you imagine what she’ll do if she’s mad at him and wants to get back at him. *HELL. NO.* This is called the consequences of her own actions and one day she’s going to piss off the wrong person and end up going to court just because she decided to make up some shit. That’s dangerous.

[@GhostBlueEternalFlame]

Story 1: That is not a prank, but a huge breach of trust. Huge.

[@tinyvanuffelen7918]

Story 2; I congratulate the bride for having a groom with a shiny spine ! After all what was happened in his youth and later on he stand his ground . I wish you two a beautiful wedding day and a long and happy marriage!!!

[@holeymcsockpuppet]

The remorse of someone who deliberately hurts you is not a reason to stay with them. They have shown you that they have a permanent character flaw...fatal to any relationship with them. Love is irrelevant....because they are incapable of it.

[@persephoneszeliga]

“I’d be embarrassed to propose at someone else’s wedding…uh, no offense to anyone that has.” Hahaha… that had me cracking up.

[@midnightdreemz1509]

1st Op: RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!! I'm so sorry you went thru this awful crapshow. You will never trust her again to the extent to marry and have children. I know it's going to hurt but in the long run you will move forward to a happy life. IMHO

[@protoclone138]

Grandma got ripped to shreds and slapped with the cold cod of truth. She deserves it for supporting the idea of letting the brother propose during their day.

[@Josku2411]

Oop early and currently drawing my ocs kiddos bc i couldn'y resist they're cool concepts

[@kenyarimabry3167]

"Relax bro, it's just a prank!" The prank:

[@SailorLavender]

Story 1: OP NEEDS A WHOLE ENTIRE NEW SOCIAL CIRCLE! Good thing this happened before the walk down the aisle though, can't imagine how hard it would be to leave after getting hitched!

[@weirdflex1673]

Story 2: why call a taxi? I would just call the cops and have him removed.

[@rebel1612]

Heard S1 before and the claims of GF and friends are absolutely astonishing and could have had devastating effects on OP.

[@xerosereify]

WoW when my friend held her bf a surprise party she just took him for a bike ride lol (and then broke her arm, but that was unintentional). This has got to be the weirdest way for someone to ruin their relationship....

[@sharyebethancourt3660]

16:06 he can propose whenever he wants. He can create his own special moment. He does not need to do a wedding takeover

[@kristinwiebold2433]

Part of me would call the non emergency number and explain the situation and ask what to do since she and her family have blocked him. Or maybe chat with a lawyer and get advice from them. One should never use abuse, violence or other serious topics as jokes. It isn't a laughing matter and it can seriously ruin ones life. If it is false who ever started it and spread it needs sever consequences

[@___LC___]

First story: he should sue the “friend” for libel, defamation, and emotional damages. These things do not totally disappear, ever. Social media is toxic and so are the attention seekers who are willing to blow up friends’ weddings for attention.

[@dorotheawalker7985]

Have a blessed day Mark and Poppy and for the frist story I pray that dude dumped her and walk away.

[@susanlosey9511]

Wow! What a roller coaster of a ride. I feel sorry for OP having to go thru all this crap! I’m glad that he told both those narcissist idiots, ( gramma and brother) off and told them to go away! Bravo! Good for him for standing up for his girlfriend. Also, those parents finally woke up and made genuine apology to OP and his fiancée!

[@livewellwitheds6885]

I love that u include the original. I always come across updates or part 2/3 of a reddit story then cant find part 1/original post!

[@mooseass2996]

Thank you for another morning story Mark!!! Ur literally my favourite Reddit story telller :))

[@mamakitty6549]

That poor lad.... Please please dump her.... This was too crazy. Run and never come back.

[@sascharuler]

As someone who HAS been abused, that ex girlfriend pisses me the hell off. It's people like her that cause others to be wary of actual victims speaking out.

[@Carehuea]

The updates can so often be frustrating and underwhelming. Not this time. These are the best updates I have ever read…

[@IrisAsuras]

I don't know who thinks getting a proposal at a wedding would be special. It would be embarrassing.

[@________stephens8251]

for the second one id only prepose if it was a destination wedding, and PRIVATLY and only AFTER the bride and groom had left the venue.

[@lapsedgoth]

Story 2: my MiL likes to play the "I just don't understand/I just don't know what to do" game when she understands/knows exactly what's at the core of her issues but doesn't want to do what's necessary to change. I'm learning to breathe through it and ignore or try to say what I do every time to try and help.

[@thunderkrux7745]

She protected the friend first before OP. This shows you who she cared about more.

[@jimmyjohnjuan]

Story 1) She did 3 things that each will me to end the relationship and she did 3. 1- fake break up prank. She will to hurt me in this way is a no go 2- panices under pressure when it hurt S/o, she is unable to fight for me, maybe if she admittedly came clean and not allowed people to believe i(he) was an abuser maybe thing could work. 3- backing friend over Fiance. the reason she didn't stick up for me(he) because she didn't want to throw her friend under the bus, bover fiance. Bro better have broke up lol

[@joy844]

Story 2: shocking how family can’t behave for 1 day for a wedding. Drama always happen and then gaslight you to think that you’re the bad guy for wanting to have a wedding

[@0michelleki020]

i've heard story 2 before, but wow just wow, i'm baffled every time i hear it.

[@SpookiCooki]

Holy shit! That GF is a huuuge red flag! What she did was straight up abusive and manipulative. That would be a deal breaker for me!

[@fhuber7507]

2... NTA for banning that brother from the wedding. And long overdue for cutting off the financial aid to the parents.

[@mztweety1374]

This is the case of tell me you don't want to get married without telling me. Run, unless you want this type of idiocy for the rest of your life.

[@danielwarren7110]

false acquisitions should be charged. it is hard enough for real people to come forward. OP should never ever allow that woman back in his life, as the acquisition of abuse will always be out there. Even a five minute joke is damaging and will grow exponentially, and this was days of the rumor supported by the "victim".

[@brigidtheirish]

1: I get saying something rude or stupid without realizing it until someone blows up on me. The joys of the autism spectrum. Thing is, I make an effort to make this right the *instant* I realize I screwed up. OP's ex had better *stay* an ex for her inability to fix her own mess. 2: I pay my sister $300 for rent plus some for the phone bill and an extra hundred during the winter when I use a space heater (that's about how much the extra electricity costs). I also help out with chores and running errands when I can. Since I'm on disability and pretty much unemployable, it's the least I can do. OP's brother pays $300 and *nothing else,* doesn't even help with chores, and generally just wastes oxygen.

[@porter0311]

OMG I hope there's an after the wedding update because I DO NOT think this dumpster fire is out yet.

[@clairebear-96]

Omg i’m just LOVING the extra long videos the past couple days

[@josephbons1]

She rather have OP seen as an abuser then a friend being an idiot. Even if her plan had gone perfect, it was still based on manipulation. Who plans a surprise party by emotionally torturing their partner, It's sick. If he goes back to her he's a fluffing moron but he probably will. I don't think he has any self-esteem.

[@TheHellsHobbit]

#1 When this cleared up I hope PO sues for slander and ruining his reputation. I hope OP dumps her ass and she is an ex. Huge red flags.