Film Theory: Fifty Shades of Grey Cult Theory

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Millions of women fell in love with Christian Grey, including the young Anastasia Steele. But was it his charisma that won her over, or deliberate psychological manipulation? Was it his rock hard abs she was attracted to or his cold, calculating psychological abuse? Throughout 50 Shades of Grey, Christian uses a very specific set of steps to brainwash Anastasia into loving him…the same steps that cults use to indoctrinate new members. Film Theory uncovers the dark side of 50 Shades of Grey…
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[@tmsteff1018]

The creepy smile you put on him is seriously fucking terrifying.

[@thejamman4070]

ThomasSteff17 I'm gonna have nightmares.

[@jojosiwa7337]

ThomasSteff17 FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT

[@myhideaway194]

ThomasSteff17 I actually laughed every time it came up...dunno why?

[@dionbacchus695]

ThomasSteff17 It's fucking nightmarish , the first time it came up almost made me shit bricks

[@xanderfuck8195]

true

[@mutilator97]

I'm confused by the fact that you skipped over one of the biggest sign that this isn't really BDSM, his treatment of her her first time.(note:I have not read the book nor seen the movie, and am not into BDSM myself, so this is all gathered from people who have seen/read the story and/or are into the whole dom/sub thing) He apparently is getting ready to take her virginity, and she decides she doesn't want it. Even though she says NO and wants to stop, he goes ahead and takes her anyways. This is a BIG no no in the BDSM community(from what my communications tell me). Safe words are there for a reason, namely that this is supposed to be pleasurable. If the person says that word, it has gone too far. At this point, the dominant will undo the restraints and comfort the sub, sometimes even apologizing for having gone so far. In Fifty Shades of F*cked up, he keeps going, and doesn't even care what he's done. So no, this is no longer BDSM, it's rape. flat out.

[@pog15r]

***** clap clap clap. you have impressed me. you actually looked at this from a logical perspective and it seems you did your homework. for that you have my thanks.

[@sonnycurl624]

And there was no aftercare :/

[@pog15r]

true

[@pog15r]

it's not like your wrong. are right.

[@LoIsBook]

I find it bullshit when people try to say the "contract" is the consent. Thank you for saying this. Consent does not work like his. It's not an object.

[@LuameravaXO]

This is actually really scary. There are a lot of relationships that start like this. The things we miss because of ignorance is scary.

[@marthmallow7420]

Ignorance is not always bliss huh :/

[@eloquentwizard7492]

Then don’t be ignorant. Problem solved.

[@nauticalcynosurenc2706]

@Eloquent Wizard if you're homeless buy a house

[@eloquentwizard7492]

@@nauticalcynosurenc2706 The cure for ignorance is information, which is free.

[@adrianawilliams4810]

@@eloquentwizard7492 not everyone research

[@chubbybunny6975]

Remember when there were news articles coming out about boyfriends raping/abusing their girlfriends because they wanted to try stuff from Fifty Shades and act it out EXACTLY like Fifty Shades, so it meant no safewords, proper consent, boundaries, etc? BECAUSE I DO.

[@leeroberts4850]

Madela affect

[@BillyBob-xx5jr]

@@leeroberts4850 That's not what the Mandela effect is. The Mandela effect is when belief in something makes your body act as if that belief was correct, even if it isn't, like how if someone takes a sugar pill and is told it's an antibiotic, they will experience some of the benefits an actual antibiotic would give them. This is just people being morons and believing that "If it happened in a movie, it HAS to be right."

[@BillyBob-xx5jr]

@@KryanBong Ah, got the names mixed up, my B.

[@leeroberts4850]

@@KryanBong according to Wikipedia Nelson Mandela died in 2013 the Mandela effect is named after Nelson Mandela because people believe he died in prison in the 90s but he is dead today that means of course that the Mandela effect as an internet phenomenon where people misremember things is more than seven years old the thing about the Mandela effect as far as other conspiracy theories go is that it's unique in the sense that all of the purported examples of the Mandela effect have individual alternative explanations that are all unique to those misremembered information for example The Bernstein bears" example"is explained because The Bernstein bears is a children's story that was read to us by our mothers nobody pronounced Hermione Granger right until we saw the movie where is there sometimes hard to pronounce especially for her mother's who often because of sexism received a different education than men so then not being able to pronounce a German surname a more reasonable explanation than time travel change the way in which we remember past events. Sugar proof that this is the case is I'm using Google talk to text to write this KZbin comment my dad is with me and when I said Bernstein bears he corrected me and said. Bearnstein not being able to pronounce a surname correctly is not evidence that the government is using secret time travel technology to alter events of the past that leave a remnant of memory that some people recall in contrast to the altered history. There are too many "examples"of the Mandela effect two dispute them all independently which makes it such a difficult internet conspiracy theory to debunk but they're all explain the way by Occam's razor the most reasonable conclusion is the simplest one time travel would require not only that we violate the arrow of time proposed by special relativity that we are able to travel faster than light speed because the Earth is moving around the sun which is moving around the Milky Way and the dinosaurs lived on the other side of the Galaxy the sun makes a complete circle around the Milky Way every 225 -250 million years to be able to travel in time would require us to be able to travel faster than the speed of light or else if you travel backwards in time you end up in avoid of space some where in the earth's path around the Galaxy before the Earth arrived there.... Anyone who believes in the Mandela effect is suffering from the dunning Kruger effect the unconfidence and ignorant person gets when they believe they know more than they do

[@leeroberts4850]

@@BillyBob-xx5jr yeah how about when before you decide to correct someone in the future you go Google the term you're trying to correct them on it's a huge pet peeve of mine when people ask people questions in the comment section that they could get a faster answer by googling or when they correct people and their patently wrong when a simple Google search would have prevented them from saying something stupid

[@GameTheory]

Watching Fifty Shades of Grey. Slightly less abusive than playing Superman 64.

[@rogueronin2455]

Yeee

[@Dan-ii6hz]

The Game Theorists "Slightly?"

[@PersonaSimon]

I think Chinese water torture is less abusive than Superman 64

[@sgbaconjr]

Ding good joke with the KZbin accounts

[@SasukeUchiha-nj3eg]

Lol

[@ashleejaylyn9782]

I have taken the notes, time to execute plan "Get My Crush Since 04 To Be My Sex Slave"

[@ofcoursewetran]

Dropped my phone when I saw that comment 😂😂😂😂

[@mercedeswalt6621]

Hahahaha!

[@imperialscout1262]

+An O'Nymous ^

[@doyoulikebeer3004]

Hey! Don't say my plan in the comment section of my KZbin God

[@priscillahernandez8193]

Lol i thought the same thing

[@haobamajit2636]

i remember the twelve year old measking my older sister (who is 18) what is fifty shades of grey about and she said it was about a girl who wanted to paint her room grey so she went to a paint store where the shopkeeper gave her fifty shades to choose from, so the whole series is basically the girl trying to pick a colour. i believed what she said😅

[@haobamajit2636]

@Shadowside yeah 😂

[@aspennnnnn11235]

😭😭😭

[@rosy5807]

Would’ve been a better movie than… this.

[@hayleybartek8643]

As someone who has repainted their entire house and has difficulty deciding, that plot could still be a form of torture. 50 different paint colors, and they're all grey?!?

[@starryberry2095]

This is actually so wholesome. :)

[@NitrogenStars]

I wasn’t able to watch the movie years ago because it literally triggered my PTSD from the abuse I suffered and no one understood why. Thank you for exposing this

[@ammarsalim1185]

F

[@ameliasegan2138]

I hope your getting the help you need lots of love 💗

[@thehistoryandbooknerd8979]

I was at a sleepover at a friend’s house when I was younger, back before COVID, and I asked my “friend” to turn it off, she refused, and I got so uncomfortable that I started to cry and, if I recall correctly, I went downstairs and talked to her mother. Her mother was PISSED. She went upstairs and made my “friend” turn it off. That movie was turned off, but I was the bad guy. I’m not their friend anymore, and I’m happy not to be.

[@bellamcarthur2883]

I hope u find the happiness u deserve after ur struggles

[@theshowman2494]

when the video started my first thought was "what the fu- this is cinema sins!"

[@aciino4532]

I can't Think of a name yeah I thought I clicked the wrong video

[@theshowman2494]

Yuu Chan same

[@ktony859]

I love Cinemasins and Film/Game theory, so it was a pleasant suprise.

[@almostpaperboats4835]

a guy guy I thought I clicked on the wrong vid :P

[@eimikofan]

Almost Paper Boats same XD

[@FilmTheory]

Video does not contain a "Scene does not contain a lap dance" sin. [DING!]

[@dweezil_sama7637]

Hahaha!

[@brianysantos366]

😂

[@spacepillow]

The Film Theorists ERMAHGERD! BESTEST COLLAB EVER THANK YOU I WANT TO HUG YOU! *virutal hugs*

[@Umamaahoe]

Wut is a lap dance??

[@givemepir]

howtonotsuk 222 look it up on google and hit images.

[@Monsuco]

To anyone who thinks this movie has romance in it please just imagine the male actor being replaced with Danny DeVito. It is now a horror film far darker than Saw.

[@Zulk_RS]

I'm pretty sure having Danny DeVito as the male actor would make it better.

[@watdn3993]

Issa comedy

[@christiansalcedo217]

Unless you have a thing for Danny DeVito.

[@undergroundish3135]

*screams* AAAAGH! MY (mind's) EYE(s)! IT BURNS! ZEE GOGGLES DO NUTHING!

[@killeramphibians]

be nice 😭

[@randomperson-xy2mv]

The “play room” is literally a torture chamber

[@arandomperson9116]

Hello.

[@randomperson-xy2mv]

@@arandomperson9116 hello

[@simoneangeliquemaloney3990]

@@arandomperson9116 hello

[@simoneangeliquemaloney3990]

@@randomperson-xy2mv hello

[@simoneangeliquemaloney3990]

I am seeing doubles

[@wilfredteh315]

that face of grey is really really really.........really f@#*ing creepy

[@tarad3287]

ikr! i got scared really easily by visual things and now im just no longer going to sleep

[@Ragan31687]

It matches his soul

[@moonbean169]

+willie fred ikr... so freaking creepy

[@caviersim3806]

+willie fred at first I found it creepy too, but by the next few times it's fucking hilarious along with Mat saying creepy stuff about him

[@xiodara17]

+willie fred ikr! i had to look away each time

[@AdrianoAndrade0]

In conclusion, Fifty Shades of Grey is a much better film when you think of it as a psychological suspense movie.

[@jesseclark7105]

O_O

[@ralphanthonyespos9417]

*dding*

[@tireins1072]

Didi Andrade, I think not. The best way to describe this film is Grey slowly putting a dog leash on Anna. I mean, how is that romantic. Its disgusting and stupid. Really shows how stupid are generation is to think this is romantic.

[@General12th]

...so, you're basically agreeing with Didi that this shouldn't be considered a romantic movie, but unnecessarily adding your two cents about how you don't like this generation. You really should read what you're replying to more carefully.

[@tireins1072]

Jordan Sharnk, you're half-right, at least. I was saying that this movie, by any means, couldn't be a suspense of any variety. The plot of this so called "romance story" is just done so badly that you can only think how foolish this girl is for sighing a contract-a contract-for sex. And that last part I added, was an add-on. I do that a lot when I reply, so... there you have it.

[@bunnyhasreligioustrauma5874]

Gray emotionally abuses Anna. And even when they do BDSM he provides no aftercare and when she tells him to do his worst, he does and that’s something a good dom would never actually do since she’s so new. BDSM isn’t abusive but Christian Gray is.

[@lemonarsenic6063]

Middle-aged suburban wine moms: Fifty Shades of Grey is *such* a romantic story! Matpat and all his subscribers: IT'S A CULT!

[@fama3093]

I am not liking this comment. I hope you understand....

[@sneekystrawberry2851]

@@fama3093 Ok?

[@sneekystrawberry2851]

Eiji

[@mask938]

@@sneekystrawberry2851 Did you watch Banana Fish or Big Order? Those are the only shows I know of that have a character named Eiji.

[@brie-annafultz1369]

There’s also you know,,,, actual sexual assault scenes in the book. Literally like she says no multiple times. That’s both a sin, and not a theory. The whole series glorifies abuse

[@lulolie]

And encourages victims to stay...

[@princesspinhead4516]

When was this?

[@ph1444]

Consent is sexy folks

[@Transformers2Fan1]

"But it's proof he luuuuuvvs her!@!1! he *knows* she *wants* it so he's hellllllpping her!!!!!1!"

[@myFElovemimi]

Guys please. It's just a fantasy that someone has and that other people also seem to find sexy. Fantasy is different from reality. A lot, a lot of people have rape fantasies but they also don't want that to happen in real life. We should learn consent is key first and then that fantasy and real life are not the same things. Get your sexual fetish acceptance updated please.

[@lunamoona4920]

Fifty shades of gray is a classic example of an abusive manipulative relationship and it worries me that so many people find this movie romantic

[@BoredSai95]

same here dud

[@dragonx3015]

Bad for them.

[@josieparker4710]

Maybe it’s because this type of relationship is normalized due to them going through the same type of abuse? Cuz it’s highly likely. 😞

[@yamato6114]

I noticed that a vast majority of the women who enjoyed it were middle aged. Honestly I don't know how true this is, but it might've been that they grew up in an era where abuse was more normalized and a man beating a woman was just seen as him 'being a man'. I'm a woman myself and the fact that this series actually got popular is really worrying me. I knew a man just as manipulative as Christian. The only difference was he wasn't rich.

[@hanadunn7297]

Please if this romantic then Joker and Harley Quinn are meant to be eternal lovers.

[@chrissyr8387]

In conclusion: If y'all wanna see a true BDSM couple. Mortisia and Gomez Addamas. Period.

[@yoongisgirlfriend9302]

I kinda want a couple like this but....WITH REAL CONSENT,but will be also romantic😍

[@r.j.penfold]

Omfg u right. I don't wanna admit it but u right. They do really love each other and their family tho, so they're really fucking wholesome despite all the living fossils and hairball cousins.

[@softnoobgirl73]

They are one of the best straight couples

[@o.lyandzberg2784]

"Darling, is this torture?" "Oui" is still one of the best cinema dialogues, PERIOD

[@curedreamfandubz4116]

BAHHAH STOP

[@althealee9375]

A guy I went to high school read this book and told me his theory after reading it is that women *want* to be abused. Pretty unnerving

[@TitaniumTronic]

Well, now I wanna die knowing that a person actually thinks that..

[@disturbed1013]

I hope he met a woman who actually punched him for thinking like that

[@sylvy16]

ugh this is why such movies should not exist. this just proves that this book has made society worse

[@zacharygiles2984]

@@TitaniumTronic not wrong tho

[@TaraSmallss]

The visual of grays little gray swinging in front of him will haunt me for life

[@BoredSai95]

same here, person

[@RAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH]

@@BoredSai95 Eh, it's not that haunting.

[@D44RK_Iced_Yogs]

Anyone else believe this came out 6 years ago? That’s insane to me, I remember when this channel launched and this came out… it feels not too long ago but also coming back after being older it’s nice that I have an understanding of the things talked about!

[@marsagul846]

40 year olds: It’s so romantic! Mat Pat: Are we watching the same movie?

[@amalirfan]

It's quite the opposite

[@davidniedermeyer8285]

Must be their inner kinkiness.

[@dnw009]

@@davidniedermeyer8285 Or being incapable of putting themselves in the other persons shoes and realising that all Anna lost wasn't worth being the play toy of Christian Grey. Also I thought it was more teens than 40 year olds hyping over the movie...

[@ArtisanAsteroid]

@@dnw009 I think it’s both. 40 year old moms and teens seem to not be too far apart,sometimes.

[@AlanaPostsCrap]

@@ArtisanAsteroid Yea, it's weird. My mom watched all the 3 movies again in one NIGHT. And I was like: But mom, what's the romantic factor in abuse? And she was like: He started abusive, but he learned to love. AND MY AUNT AGREED! I stopped arguing bc I knew I couldn't change the "romance" in their minds.

[@freednighthawk]

Let me just say, the BDSM community absolutely thanks you for this video. Yeah, sure, we're sexual deviants, but we're not cultists.

[@patriciaesteves8390]

I'm not part of that community but I think there's nothing wrong with it as long as there is proper consent so you do you fellas!

[@miqolysa]

@Jose Berger for which reason? Having a sexlife you can't understand? A Christian Grey would raise up so many red flags that he will not be accepted in the bdsm community. He is a manupulater and abuser. In real BDSM it is all about communication, compromise and consent - all of that without forcing anyone to do that.

[@scoobdoobert]

@Jose Berger ?

[@technounionrepresentative4274]

Whatever

[@gigachadcooper7381]

You are a freak and you should be ashamed of yourself.

[@SleepyKwee]

You really see how cult-like it gets when there's the ex stalking Anna, she kneels when Christian demands it, like a robot. The author of these books needs some serious help if she thinks this kind of relationship is at all romantic.

[@j.h170]

60% Matpat telling us that a movie about a freaky millionare and a heated young girl is about a cult 5 % cinema sins making remarks as a cameo 35% Teaching us on how to make a cult work

[@wmdkitty]

100% explaining how abuse happens and why victims don't "just leave".

[@sphynx2691]

one thing your missing is him having ... thoughts

[@christopheredwards9904]

Pretty much

[@thecyborghulk3045]

man MatPat must be on so many watch lists. I mean he's been on the watch lists for how to make bombs and stuff, now this.

[@Marik4295]

Are you telling me you have a cult

[@aykayjk]

Most of my girl friends went to watch this movie, some even read the book, some of them said and I quote "I want a Christian Grey for myself". I'm just like "What the fuck is wrong with you people?"

[@AhSatan]

Most of my girl friends know that the book and movie are bad and messed up. Lucky me, I guess.

[@Saffron-sugar]

Scary, isn't it?

[@Raimiana]

Because you maybe don't know the end of the story. Christian hurts Ana very bad once and then she left him, then he realize he is in love with her and can't be violent if he wants to stay with her. So they get back together as a real couple, and Christian became respectful to Ana's limits (which are not that sweat). Their love grows and grows with a loooooot of incredibly romantic actions and discussions from both of them, they married and then have children. Of course, I would like a Christian for myself, a guy who is maybe messed up because he was so maltreated as a child, but who gives up all is life because he can't have both me and it, who saves my life, makes me discover myself and grow up, and who is a billionaire so he could buy me anything and makes me travel everywhere looking at me like I was the most beautiful star in the night sky. It's a ROMANCE STORY, between a young romantic girl and a messed up guy.

[@kylemarsh8971]

Most of my girl friends, are non existent. Most of my girl friends, I barely know.

[@alinan4320]

answer is simple - cause main hero is freaking hot and very rich .If he was broke pervert...sorry it would be different story :p

[@sadstardust]

Even as a naive, impressionable, and undeniably “romantically oriented” 16/17 year old I knew this story was creepy, abusive bullshit and not at all what real BDSM is. Now every time the name of it is even mentioned I shudder in disgust at 1) the way people, specifically women romanticize this under the guise that it’s healthy and 2) for those who do realize how BS it is, the way that they now think this is what BDSM actually is. Yeah, I’m still mad about it in 2021 and I will die mad about it.

[@ellabrooke03]

this video made me realise how easily i’d be indoctrinated into a cult

[@gothnerd887]

Same

[@gwenshapp3621]

Wanna go for a coffee?/j

[@alexanderrahl7034]

Anyone who thinks they can't be, are perfect targets for cults because they have no wariness or guard. They just assume they're above psychology. And no one, is above psychology. Ironically, those who think they can't be indoctrinated into cults, would end up being some of the strongest believers who would commit horrible deeds

[@tofupofu9111]

How to get into MatPat's pants: buy him coffee. Got it.

[@anjarose6074]

No a diet coke

[@tofupofu9111]

Anja Rose aight

[@alexkizilos4904]

+Anja Rose not sponsored tho lol

[@phoenixlmao]

OMFG what the hell is your problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@tofupofu9111]

Alia Skaleski I'm. Making a joke. I don't actually want to sleep with MatPat.

[@ventiro36]

40 yr old moms: Aww, this is so romantic Matpat: iT’s a CulT

[@agoosewithinternetaccessan3218]

Me: **Just leaves**

[@CrazeVerse]

Boi What not sure how anyone could find that romantic

[@CrazeVerse]

Dylan Nehila all I can hope is you don’t now

[@CrazeVerse]

Dylan Nehila 😂 I cant say I blame him

[@Jas13579]

Boi What it’s abuse-

[@bellechloe5159]

BDSM rules include safe words to protect the Sub and never pushers her or him too far

[@xpopsiclex370]

I remember watching it thinking it was going to be a dramatic love story but omg it was literally just abuse and I was like “WHY DO PEOPLE LIKE THIS!?l” it was just sad.

[@jennicalagumbay3561]

I considered 50 shades as a psychological horror movie

[@hzzkr68kzze82]

Lol

[@bluepencil9451]

Oh it is :D

[@OverdramaticAngel]

Yup.

[@kaaskeizer]

i think youre on to something there...

[@emiliajimenez8214]

Me too

[@abbiepgc0315]

If fifty shades of grey took place in a trailer park instead of a billion dollar apartment it would be a criminal minds episode.

[@gracie-ud3wf]

Yes and if Spencer Reid was in it I would probably actually want to watch it

[@fairclothretrievers2614]

Hahahaha yes! You are exactly right!!

[@Halo-lg7rq]

Grace Baxa my goat but Gideon tho🥵

[@muhammadfazlurrahman4929]

Nice 666 likes

[@Halo-lg7rq]

fazlur rahman no not nice. Glad you posted that so I could fix it

[@stealthybat9776]

As a part of the bdsm community I can’t remember any of my friends in the community including me liking 50 shades of grey Bc the first rule of bdsm is the two people being comfortable, trusting each other and setting boundaries

[@KoltiraMemeweaver]

I really hate how eerily similar this scenario is to how my father trapped my mother. Only difference is he wasn't young and rich. Halfway through watching this and my skin is crawling.

[@KoltiraMemeweaver]

This is NOT romantic at all. I can guarantee you'll grow tired and resentful of your partner after a bit.

[@HangryOnPaws]

Cripes! I'm so sorry it made you uncomfortable like that. We're here for you if you need it. 💛

[@ndanumulatya6349]

And what did we learn kids... *How to successfully create a cult*

[@MADTheChannel]

Also how not to practice bdsm

[@thenonpoliticalpterodactyl7933]

ohhh perfect I was looking for how to do that jk

[@11Stefansen]

Im 8 and watching at night

[@Dawnishere]

Markipiler noticed that

[@constell6214]

You *didn't* know how yet? Sad

[@sonder3662]

Imagine what the FBI thought of Matpat when he googled "steps to create a cult".

[@afiamahmood1313]

He's probably using incognito a lot lol

[@cadmussim8081]

@@afiamahmood1313 doesn't work at all

[@hazardous458]

afia mahmood Incognito just makes the FBI more interested.

[@shannonspeaker8582]

yukiji they probably thought “oh it’s just matpat being matpat”

[@Redjay_Lee]

yukiji to add on to everything else he’s ever googled- the FBI are probably really...confused? Wary? Y’know what I mean

[@Zarasvids]

The thing is, there are plenty of Kinky Submissives that would be completely down to being in that dungeon too. But he doesn't look for them because he knows that they're more aware of how this stuff goes and are less likely to be manipulated by him. If you're already in the kink scene then you're more likely to be aware of how to play safely.

[@phoenixwithahalfofdragon936]

At this point Matpatt could look up how to commit a crime and the FBI wouldn’t even suspect him for it

[@timothymenard4946]

Grey is legit one of the most disgusting fictional characters ever.

[@miikkalaukkanen1436]

more disgusting than ones that murder? ok, great sense of morals youve got there.

[@timothymenard4946]

@@miikkalaukkanen1436 I never said that, all i said is that grey is a terrible person. He is ALMOST as bad as a murderer.

[@miikkalaukkanen1436]

@@timothymenard4946 doesnt 'one of the most' not imply he is worse than some? 🤨

[@timothymenard4946]

@@miikkalaukkanen1436 Yes, he's one of the most disgusting characters ALMOST as bad as a murderer.

[@pinacoladahombre5462]

Not disgusting more like creepy

[@aliienoiid]

Is it bad that I laugh everytime I see that photoshopped photo of Christian smiling?

[@BoredSai95]

no it's not. i laugh at it too

[@rebbecawitt581]

It's satanic

[@mementomori2334]

No

[@lancetheking7524]

maybe

[@Avrillace]

No, it's hilarious

[@AngryReptileKeeper]

The fact that this movie is widely considered to be "romantic" and "relationship goals" explains why so many people have so many bad/failed relationships. A large plurality of people don't even know what a healthy relationship looks like, let alone how to have one.

[@dwaekkisinsanity5233]

An abusive "dom" and a vanilla and confused sub that was forced and didn't even experienced an aftercare from her dom. What a great movie.

[@peregrinus524]

Is no one gonna comment on the fact that he went: Buttplugs *Activate*

[@riverpaw3234]

Nope

[@PKmovers]

Was actively looking for someone who realized it and commented on it too lmaooo

[@m_3777]

You beat me to it

[@sans8381]

heya dark sans, wrong timeline

[@britaindixon9022]

sans ! Are you sure sans

[@bankruptedwizard1413]

Fans: This is such a romantic movie! Matpat: It's Free Real Estate.

[@barbatos673]

i guess she drew her line at butplug...

[@adeleaslan8182]

This-this has fans?!

[@swiveryswovery9458]

Adele Aslan o h n o

[@taylorzinner9900]

no its twilight fanfic which is mcr fanfic

[@allenarts6256]

I love how Cinema Sins is in this and has quick cameos

[@rollureyes69420]

6:05 crying rn

[@babashook8552]

*my friend's mum went to see this and apparently a girl had to get escorted out because she brought a viberator to the movie theater*

[@Keys420]

B A B A S H O O K ummmmmmmmmmmm

[@theodore_honeybee6104]

B A B A S H O O K 😂

[@ahnyhunter16]

B A B A S H O O K WOW.

[@khatunamezvrishvili6211]

Oh god

[@jadesellers1984]

What's a vibrater

[@itz_ollie4190]

As a submissive myself, the movie and book absolutely disgusted me.

[@cheeeseisawsome12345]

as part of the bdsm community, I'd agree :)

[@bubermarcus8607]

As a normal member of society, I agree.

[@chriswedemann8599]

iTz_Ollie As a dom, this film was an insult.

[@brinnyboovbgpcip-s5253]

As someone with friends into BDSM, I agree.

[@ssj1k564]

iTz_Ollie I gotta question do you have line with certain things

[@dkjcb3993]

You know, "buttplugs, activate!" wasn't the phrase I was expecting to hear Matpat say today.

[@veemantis1975]

The big problem with 50 Shades isn't even that it's a dark, abusive, cultlike portrayal of a rape kink style ravishment fantasy, it's that the general public/audience and even the author herself don't recognize it as that; a FANTASY. The plot of these films and books is totally normal to think or fantasize about, or even roleplay through in consenting BDSM-handbook-approved environments where safety nets like safewords, pre-negotiated scripts, ongoing consent, and aftercare are present. The issue is that this fantasy becomes dangerous very quickly when the person or people acting it out aren't aware that it's meant to be a daydream, or at the absolute most, a controlled LARP style BDSM scene. The lack of understanding of human sexuality and how our minds process things like fantasy and sexual themes we perceive as dangerous or thrilling leads to people thinking that they or their partner actually wants these extremes in real life, and that's very dangerous when abusers, manipulators, or uninformed doms who just don't know enough to be safe get into dynamics with subs who don't understand that wanting to play pretend doesn't mean wanting to live it out.

[@Pandora9i0]

Let's be honest, it's only considered romance because he's rich and handsome

[@Xehanort10]

Skittles91000 Yeah. The 50 Shades fangirls are shallow as hell. If he was ugly and poor they wouldn't fancy him in any way.

[@harrietamidala1691]

Xehanort10 He would be a Criminal Minds Unsub.

[@Pandora9i0]

It would be a killer flick instead of a romance novel

[@Xehanort10]

Skittles91000 Christian Grey reminds me of American Psycho's Patrick Bateman.

[@laxdefender23]

Xehanort10 except the audience is supossed to hate bateman, I think for some reason we are supossed to sympathize with grey

[@eleanorfudge7288]

"Expecting a sin every time you hear this ding?" (at 15:08) is actually an example of classical conditioning.

[@cro.artwork]

An intellectual, I see?

[@toffiet3347]

What's the difference? For an idiot

[@smilegirl6429]

@@toffiet3347 classical conditioning is expecting something every time something happens (like in the case of animals, a treat every time a bell is rang). Operant conditioning involves rewards and punishments (giving your dog a treat because it rolled over).

[@aanaa5277]

I was waiting for this comment

[@craigyeah1052]

Glad I scrolled down before saying the same thing

[@luffyismyicon3860]

As someone who is really into BDSM, I'm so angry that this story is the most famous BDSM based story in the world. It isn't only bad written, it gives a fake and gross image of what BDSM truly is. Then 365DNI had to come in the equation as well and it made things so fucking worse.

[@BiggestPhangirl]

The moment someone tries to force me into doing something I am very obviously uncomfortable with, I’m out. I make my boundaries and the consequences of crossing them VERY clear at the beginning of a relationship because I do not want to end up in this mess.

[@gothnerd887]

I think I do the same

[@loganfrandrup6590]

5:47 Text not matching what is actually being said. *Ding*

[@mind4lease554]

I was starting to think I was the only one who caught that

[@TheCristinutza5]

After watching this... I tend to think that 50 Shades Of Gray is a Horror Movie

[@pilferedpotatoes]

+KrisTina_2525 It definitely would have been more interesting if it was branded that way.

[@TheCristinutza5]

***** HAHAHA... YEAH DEFINITELY ;)

[@ravengrey8891]

+KrisTina_2525 It's a pyschological thriller

[@under_the_night_sky5380]

I thought at first that fifty shades of grey was an action movie. That is, until I saw the trailer...

[@Methren1]

+KrisTina_2525 i keep looking at it like a comedy..

[@user-zm6ci5fg4k]

People thought this was a romantic movie? I always thought it was about an abusive relationship between the two.

[@muazadam983]

This makes fighting the nameless king look like a pat on the back from your homies

[@Nightgamer_Official]

i swear the older film and game theory videos were unhinged

[@kazuyaki8002]

"Cult members are told what to eat, what to wear, when to sleep" my parents are cult leaders?!?

[@idork7302]

Guess that's why so many parents nowadays need to be called out for manipulation, their all cult leadera

[@bubblerose292]

Mine must be too! Strict bedtime, specific food, strict dress code

[@Laura-Yu]

@@bubblerose292 there’s emancipation from your parents if you want to leave so badly

[@bubblerose292]

@@Laura-Yu The process is so lengthy and you have to be abused I'm pretty sure

[@mask938]

@@bubblerose292 If you're 18, then you're able to move out of your warden's house, get your own house/apartment, and cut all contact with your wardens so they can't bully you into coming back.

[@nateslovebug]

I hate that this was so many people's introduction to BDSM. Take it from me, an actual Sub, THIS IS ABUSE. A written contract is in no way consent. Consent is always taken on a moment by moment basis, especially in scenes where injury (both physical and emotional) are a high risk. The depth of communication involved necessitates it's own jargon. A "safe word" is just the beginning.

[@Thollis1987]

👍🏾

[@crimsonkiten5882]

Yes! And bdsm contracts are not legally binding!

[@katehu7194]

??? really? The contract is not enough? Interesting.

[@chickenalpaca0332]

@@katehu7194 Bdsm contracts are really only for slave/master roleplay and aren't legally binding

[@mynameisnotkinsley7061]

I don’t even understand bdsm lmao, it’s kinda gross asf

[@moonlight_dulcet]

i've never seen this movie but from the clips i've seen in this video, i hate it. it's clearly trying to romanticise emotional abuse and manipulative behaviour, and it succeeded apparently considering that even some of my friends think it's a beautiful love story. BDSM and the kink community isn't all about non-con and "obeying your master". Anna is clearly not into the stuff that Grey is and whenever he's being like "nO bUt ThAtS hOt" honey that's not some secretly kinky guy that is a predator. i hope ppl irl take this movie as a lesson that if u meet someone in the BDSM scene and anytime u say ur genuienly not comfortable with something and they just start being like "but ur my submissive :(( ur meant to please me :(((" u need to get outta there edit: "i have rules. if you follow them, i'll reward you. if you don't, i'll punish you" is what a dominant would say to their submissive AFTER THEY HAVE ALREADY SET BOUNDARIES AND MADE IT CLEAR THEY'RE BOTH READY AND INTO IT. Anna in that scene is literally telling him she's not into all that, it's been like what a minute since he introduced the whole kinky room to her, and yet he's acting like they're just doing a dom x sub roleplay??? this movie is not about a BDSM relationship, it's about an abusive one

[@theultimitelifeform8548]

“Cults indoctrinate people who lack salt confidence” Me with my mental issues/illnesses and emotional baggage: oh no

[@gigaxacku]

"Cult indoctrination skills is starting to sound like my mother's parenting techniques." Cinemasin, 2017

[@thesnakeoiler9656]

Cult = fifty shades of grey

[@thesnakeoiler9656]

Mormanism = super cult

[@wesleyZshelby]

it did thoughhh

[@equinesisters9781]

2015...

[@TheEtherny]

Anyone who finds this romantic probably also finds Harley and Joker's relationship as love goals.

[@citrasbonez]

Denics I KNOW!!!

[@akirashiori6265]

I was about to post this too lmao

[@starly7148]

Lol

[@quangtruongdo994]

Denics i found it abusive love since bat man the animated series to sq

[@POTATOEMPN]

Also, if you notice, its the same way you should properly get a girl to like you/date you. Indoctrination.

[@king_rich0088]

Funny thing. I actually tried to relate this to how Ross and Rachel's relationship is just as toxic as this is for a english essay. And I completely forgot this video lol

[@monikori6473]

Who was the abuser? I don't remember Friends too well.

[@idrkginaf4204]

So fifty shades of grey is a horror movie?

[@user-yf4fs2he1w]

YES😊

[@isabellataylor8810]

Holy fuck I can't fall asleep because of that creepy ass smile you edited him to have. What the actual hell Matpat

[@cai3886]

Molly-senpai S

[@shaunib.8689]

I had to look away every time it came up.

[@isabellataylor8810]

Vashaun Burrell FNAF has finally made him lose his shit

[@sakiwatanabe8371]

Isabella Taylor i think it was hilarious

[@NachosForFree]

Isabella Taylor as if the FnaF Musical didn't show us that. XD

[@OsmSkylandersCheats]

“Nevermind” >Doesn’t remove sin

[@mostar1219]

CSG no, it's that he genuinely didn't know the name of the tool instead of pretending

[@Transformers2Fan1]

@@mostar1219 "Nevermind"

[@aprilmintacpineda2713]

Tiiiiing

[@Vinegar_jar]

Ding!

[@marvinflis-amie6937]

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[@eugenekim9313]

the effort and creativity put into making these theory. I dont think a lot people could even make a theory like this.

[@sickfrank]

The collab with cinema sins/wins is great! I love both your channels so much!

[@renagadedesperado115]

I wanna know who discovered how to boil a frog alive without the frog knowing. I mean who thinks, I want to boil this frog, but I need the frog to be tricked into its inevitable and unbearable death of its own free will

[@jenniferleonard1]

Put it in cold water in smth on the stove. It will like that. Then just slowly start turning the heat up until it’s boiling.

[@MelissaTreglia]

Probably the French.

[@OutdatedLeon]

Probably just some scientists in the lab who got bored. And they had extra frogs that they captured to teach biology to kids so they decided "hey, instead of dissecting them, why not boil them?"

[@benedict0902]

Scientists

[@benedict0902]

@@MelissaTreglia why?

[@WereDragonChild]

50 Shades protrays BDSM about as accurately as Sharknado protrays normal weather.

[@internetperson3228]

WereDragonChild Lol love this comment

[@finn-3976]

So 100% accurate?

[@WereDragonChild]

Finn - I genuinely hope you're being sarcastic. Lol

[@finn-3976]

WereDragonChild No, I mean who doesn't have sharks getting thrown around by tornadoes in front of their door... (yes, I am sarcastic, though for what it's worth sharknado 1-4 are a billion times better than 50 shades)

[@WereDragonChild]

Finn - lmao I had to ask, because there are some weird people out there that actually believe 50 Shades is a love story. Gag

[@melissapeterson4858]

Honestly, 50 shades could have been so good. If Anna realized that she enjoyed BDSM, but that the way Christian did it was abusive and she left him in the end to find a dom who would actually treat her well.

[@eazyplayz3510]

You had CinemaSins in this...? I’m so proud

[@jameer7565]

People find this romantic? It doesn't even take a film theory to realized this movie is disturbing and Christan is a manipulative and abusive psychopath.

[@hectorarredondo6929]

kanedgy but it's a "popular" erotic book it's not porn so women like it

[@anonymouscausethatshowirol828]

Hector Arredondo not porn? Eh if you say so I guess. People will use anything as porn

[@ericlogan9905]

Vladimir Vladimirovich Nabokov wrote porn tales as well but his words showed excellent level of literature in any language,EJ James is a hybrid of human and poodle.

[@tiffanysmith5952]

Why is ur hair white? Cuz it makes me look edgy... Then why are your nails black? Cuz it makes me look ✨🌸FABULOUUUUUUSSSSS🌸✨

[@doodlebees]

kanedgy correct

[@Jana-kc8wi]

Film theorists+Cinemasins=OH GOD THE SARCASM

[@sgtbulletriot]

I am sorry for I have sinned They need to collab more often

[@justarandomhuman4043]

Yess! Its lovely

[@user-ro1mc4uf2w]

Yep!

[@neonmxx5671]

I am sorry for I have sinned I know right it’s beautiful

[@cardieshe1371]

OMG FIFTH LOL LOL LOL

[@WadeProductions2131]

You’ve done collaborations now with cinemasins and pitch meeting, those are my three favorite KZbin channels now I need a video with all three of you

[@sophiatalksmusic3588]

Super old video and I'm sure this won't be seen at all, but I just wanted to say thank you for making this video. The way you explained the tactics that abusers use really stuck with me, and I was able to help out a friend in an abusive relationship the other day because I remember the signs that were pointed out in this video.

[@CoolspyGaming]

Make a theory about Courage: The Cowardly dog!!!

[@tiafoxxx1]

yes!

[@jojosiwa7337]

SIMON what theory?

[@yadunandansharma1520]

sure

[@chrissie9865]

SIMON There's two good ones I've heard: -Courage is just a dog that doesn't go outside much with two old people, and the creatures in the show are just people he doesn't recognise -Courage lives in Purgatory and the old guy represents Satan and the old lady represents humanity. It explains why the old guy is so mean and possession usually happens to the old lady

[@wolfydawolf1296]

i can believe that Eustice is Satan, haha, and it makes sense that Muriel is humanity

[@alexr891]

Thanks! Now I have an explanation to why Christain Gray freaks me out

[@LibertyLikes]

My thoughts exactly

[@alexr891]

LibertyLikes glad to see I'm not the only one

[@indiwales8288]

that exactly what I was thinking

[@mariahpepper8170]

Plot twist: He's Christian Gay.

[@jakebryant3445]

Fun fact: Hannibal Lecter makes a better date than him.

[@mordekai-mordsallan1312]

two of my favorite youtubers in one video together perfection

[@themiddleones11]

Expecting a sin every time you hear that ding is actually classical conditioning Being able to sin the cinemasins guy-a reward-operant conditioning

[@tristanmarkgraf7399]

“That’s just a theory...a film theory...a very detailed factual theory...aaaand cut” seems like this should be his new outro

[@gregbaranszky545]

I think you mean “aaaand cult”

[@anthonydeperino2046]

HOLY SHIT THIS ACTUALLY WORKS. thanks to this video i have introduced 14 new members to my cult to make America great again

[@rickypham9453]

Or

[@dintof1780]

whats the name?

[@baddproductionsinc.4447]

+MexArph trumpology

[@benweber8171]

+Badd Productions Inc. LOVE TRUMP!

[@baddproductionsinc.4447]

Ben Weber OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR LORD DONALD LOVES YOU FOR HELPING HIM MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!

[@jasonbower9515]

Cinemasins randomly popping in is absolute GOLD 🤣🤣

[@Lovely-ij8ve]

I couldn’t take this video seriously as I wanted to because of each time 12:52 appears I laugh so hard 😂😂😂

[@lunabeekhuizen8858]

13:20 I'm sorry but that point is actually horrifyingly valid

[@ew4ia_]

OMG XD

[@goodnight-moon564]

Luna Beekhuizen Yes, it is

[@redacted5795]

XD

[@sophiegathercole7025]

You ok dude?

[@Fun-K-Board]

To be completely honest, same.

[@anxiousagain8193]

This is like a "How to get your crush to like you: Cult Edition!!"

[@hhbutchubby6342]

This video was 7 yrs ago but I still love watching old videos of matpat Btw cinema sins and matpat collab?? That's a win!

[@kaycheyenne3039]

I knew that Fifty Shades was a fanfic of Twilight. Both are abusive, manipulative. What actually makes Fifty Shades worse is that, as this video poses, he is using cult tactics. I remember watching this with some friends when I was 13, and I didn't really care for it, so I turned my attention to other things. Someone I know said they wanted a red room with their s/o, and I knew what this person meant, but nearing my 20s, I can't help but see the destruction of romanticizing toxic relationships. Thank the Lord He is breaking me of that

[@tinolucasvalencafernandes8201]

Now i know how to create my cult! Thanks matpat, would you like to go for a coffee?

[@ClownieFace]

Thiks vf Uhmmmmm uhhhhmmmm SURE I WOULD LOVE TO.

[@therandomchanneluwontwatch3458]

if he replied 😂

[@CartoonCreature]

I'm not Mat, I just want to join a cult..... So sure!!!!

[@cdgbrown307]

Lol

[@Max-Parker-Buxton]

No,you need to invite him to Diet Coke not coffee

[@isibaldo303]

A dude once tried to pull this trick on me but luckily I'm a psychology student and I saw right through him so jokes on you Fabio

[@afiamahmood1313]

Good job

[@SilviaNight99]

Can't be too careful out there. I've also studied lots of psychology but this video helped make it even more clear what to watch out for.

[@CristalianaIvor]

sadly nothing can save you from getting harmed, even if you know that stuff. especially if someone is young. it just makes me so fucking angry.

[@KrunkCobain]

Did he try to make you sign a contract?

[@anushkasullad3825]

You're lucky to avoid it. Someone also tried this on me and I fell for it. I previously didn't know anything about BDSM or anything relating to it, so doesn't know I was supposed to stay away from it. Luckily, before I got completely got lost, my dad checked my phone and immediately told me to stay away. Honestly, I really hate it when people look into my phone without permission, but this time I couldn't be more grateful.

[@Zack-bl2gg]

THANK YOU for posting this! This will help so many people!

[@alltheaudios3162]

oh my god. cinemasins and matpat in one video?? boy have i been blessed.

[@lilywatson3455]

My sympathy goes out to MatPat for having to suffer through that trash of a movie.

[@ayumi9851]

#PrayforMatPat

[@nothintoreadhere6168]

Ugh , yes.

[@bigbootybafoonda3rd]

May half of the brain cells he lost R.I.P (Because They Could've Been Used To Make a Awesome Theory)

[@MemeBiss]

#prayformato Pat

[@Crimsontears83]

Aaaaaaahhh!!!! Stop warping his face!!!! Freaking me out......

[@undeadladybug7723]

Crimsontears83 Glad to see I'm not the only one!

[@noahjackson8040]

I had a nightmare because of all the face warping :(

[@undeadladybug7723]

I'm probably gonna have the same thing tonight.

[@undeadladybug7723]

No freaking kidding!

[@topazcoyote5482]

Crimsontears83 The scariest part is that they didn't need to warp his face. He's that evil.

[@point_zero2026]

I've been waiting for this cross over episode since forever

[@baccanboi6667]

Never knew I needed this colab