Film Theory: The Dark Secret of Jellicle Cats *CREEPY* (CATS 2019)

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I went to see CATS and it was an experience I won't soon forget. The opening song alone, well, that's everything you need to know! Jellicle songs for Jellicle cats - it makes perfect sense right? WRONG! It makes NO SENSE! What even IS a Jellicle anyway? That question has been bugging me since seeing the movie - no, since seeing the stage show years back. Today, we are solving the mystery of Jellicle cats once and for all!
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Writer: Matthew Patrick and Schyler Martin
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[@Dawnishere]

This is why I love Game/Film Theory turning basic, normal stuff into dark and twisted horrors.

[@josetrinidad8371]

so trueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[@lemonanddrip1461]

agreed

[@tomatosauce1454]

This isn’t normal though

[@graywolfdracon]

Not really turning it into something dark...just exposing it for what it is.

[@johneryorna539]

Did you just say that this movie was normal and basic

[@DarkGaming-xj9ly]

Wish you had of included the review of cats: "I'm not a cat person, and after seeing the film adaptation of cats, I'm not quite sure I'm a movie person either"

[@endigolikesarson]

"Im a cat person but after seeing the film im not sure if i should say that anymore"

[@radioactivebuglauncher]

i am a cat person, i want to own, watch, and then watch this movie again.

[@anonb4632]

Yes, by an RTÉ review. Please credit the source. I wish I could remember the source.

[@mela.1849]

It’s jacksfilms

[@bluecat3338]

My personal favorite was “It is, with all affection, a monstrosity.”

[@reversedinfinity6056]

"I guess we're all a little bit jellical now" Seeing as barely anyone went to see it, I'd say the damage is contained

[@NSUDemon14]

Once I heard that line spoken, I literally shouted at my screen, "DON'T SAY THAT!" Oh my gosh, so creepy!

[@Evelyn_onfire]

Reversed Infinity what if you saw both the musical and the movie?

[@reversedinfinity6056]

@@Evelyn_onfire Then probably more than just a *little* jellical

[@litgamer5160]

Than thank gosh I didn't watch it.

[@islaydragons1563]

Class: Euclid Special Containment Procedures: Terrible box office returns

[@BobbinRobbin777]

this is a weird sequel to that "fifthy shades of grey" video.

[@silvertheorist]

I thought the same thing! Only better edited I guess

[@Volnas97]

@@silvertheorist And without Cinemasins

[@thecoolrock448]

Dang it! I was gonna say the same

[@barandonmez1]

But hey... Thats just a theory

[@BobbinRobbin777]

*JESUS CHRIST-*

[@thegayone1911]

What MatPat theories usually are: A) There's an evil killer bunny B) The villain is the good guy C) Maths and maths and maths and maths and maths D) It's actually a cult

[@piffhebert1919]

Sounds like he needs to do Donnie Darko

[@emycharaa]

Why is it so true 😂

[@lord__pasta]

Don't forget those dead kids

[@thegayone1911]

@Zoe Guy True. Tho tbh, that also involves an evil killer bunny

[@sophiea7]

Tpgiti&kf

[@KadenMacKay]

“I don’t know what’s worse: the idea that this poor cat is being tricked into joining a dangerous cult, or the slant rhymes that are being used in the song’s lyrics.” PREACH

[@errorninja1019]

ironic

[@bellamartel7523]

Yeah Taylor Swift had literally two days to get this song together. I blame it on the cats rushed production schedule, not swift. Not my favorite song from her tho

[@EveryThingGirl238]

The lyrics sound good being read or hummed in a faint tune, but I can only guess not as a song.

[@noonenowhere877]

@@bellamartel7523 Frankly Taylor Swift had no business adding songs to a pre-existing musicals soundtrack. That's straightup creative arrogance.

[@coreyhand3138]

No one Nowhere They even interviewed her about that song and she said something along the lines of comparing herself to T.S Elliot- “If you can’t have T.S Elliot, get T.S.” As if she can compare. So cringey... 😬

[@sammieinc.3398]

Matpat: Cats is about a cult! Theater kids, off in the corner: Why do you think we like it? *It's relatable*

[@sephandremanticore5438]

Said in unison creepy monotone

[@thecatalyst6212]

@@sephandremanticore5438 and they all turn their heads to look at you and say it at the same time

[@imthatextrakid8292]

theatre kids can smell and sense each other like a gaydar

[@chloegibbs7204]

As a theatre kid, I can confirm this is true

[@MittensZora]

When you were listening to dear evan hansen before you started watching

[@sophgrayson]

Every search history can be explained by just saying "I was writing a book."

[@autumnkramer2410]

Yeah I needed the “Gary come home” lyrics for a book

[@scottposton3428]

Me, who has a mouse organ search history and Wattpad Mennard search history: Yeahh... rightttt *Walks away slowly*

[@TheNinthGeneration1]

And always have a WIP of every topic

[@AdmiralBonetoPick]

Yeah, still wondering when I'm going to see any of these professional singers and sports stars get around to actually publishing their sociological studies of human perversion.

[@lookatmyfacern]

@@scottposton3428 explained by saying you wanna make a fanfic.

[@Prospitfox]

Surprised you didn’t mention the thing jellicle cats all have in common: they’re specifically described in the song as SMALL, as in... RUNTS of the litter. The cats that would be most vulnerable early in life; more susceptible to sickness, less likely to be fed as kittens, maybe even being “abandoned” (they often need milk longer than other cats, so by the time most kittens would be separating naturally from their mothers the runts would still need them), slow development... this is the key thing that made them all perfect targets

[@Hankyuh8]

YES SO SMART

[@littlepeach9444]

Wait you have a very good point!

[@lacunaereversed]

Wait YES-

[@Prospitfox]

I missed before THEY EVEN SAY JELLICLES DEVELOP SLOWER! Lyrics I’m thinking of are from “The Jellicle Ball” btw, which emphasizes the smallness a lot actually, repeating it 5 times throughout the song. “Jellicle Cats are rather small”, “Jellicle Cats develop slowly”, “Jellicle Cats are not too big”, “Jellicle Cats are of moderate size”, “Jellicle Cats, as we said, are small”

[@sophiea7]

@@Prospitfox oh my gosh thank you 😊 such a great theory!

[@OhSweetDarlingAkuma]

The Netflix show Unbreakable has an episode dedicated to Cats: The Musical and portrays it pretty well as a cult

[@Wyzo69]

What’s the episode called

[@OhSweetDarlingAkuma]

@@Wyzo69 It's called Kimmy Is Rich*!

[@A_Sarcastic_Tortilla]

Kimmy Schmidt is easily my favorite show on Netflix. If MatPat did a theory on it, I'd lose my mind.

[@OhSweetDarlingAkuma]

@Shsbd Dbshak It's worth watching from the beginning to follow the story properly but you do you, man. There are no rules, chaos reigns supreme

[@cent5477]

I think more people are interested in this video, than the real Cats movie.

[@finnsnow2495]

I can't watch the movie the trailer scared me too much

[@Chris-uv1wr]

I just skip the ad when I got it . Cause I just wanted to see my video than a ad :/ .

[@millshaskett6044]

i mean, cats made less than 7 million, and a theater ticket is at least $10, and this video has almost 2 million views, so yeah. this video about Cats outperformed Cats..

[@fairymairah]

I am !

[@Gerwulf97]

I am so disgusted by the trailer, that I didn't want to click on this video cause I didn't want to have to see the cats...

[@hannanags]

Sometimes Matpat's theories make even more sense that the original plot I was led to believe and they help me find new meanings in every movie. I know that you're supposed to interpret movies to how you understand their theme but Matpat's just seem to hit the nail right on the head everytime and I LOVE believing his theories rather than the original plot.

[@izucutiepie]

It’s pretty obvious even in the stage play.

[@sothisishowusernameswork.2043]

it's was ALWAYS CANON even if it wasn't ALWAYS CANON

[@sothisishowusernameswork.2043]

it's was ALWAYS CANON even if it wasn't ALWAYS CANON

[@annadavis579]

As a theater kid... this is literally how I explain the musical to people who don't know about it, tbh

[@Predated2]

Oh, I just always referred to it as an PG-13 orgie. And to be fair to note, the ones who mat noted earlier(tugger, jenny and bustopher), actually do sing about not wanting to be the one who is picked next because they enjoy their current life so much and rather pick someone else instead. The musical is a lot less culty than the movie. Especially considering Grisabella often ends up returning in the final parts of the final song with a whole renewed glamourous outfit. But yeah, its still fairly culty orgie like.

[@Dom-kp6ur]

Just meme a funny guy, we made a meme out of a German guy from Once In A Life Time cause he always says ONT UUUUFA

[@lalaland1427]

Now let's try to imagine how people who had never even heard about the musical reacted when they saw the movie. Or even just the trailer for that matter.

[@mark9152]

I haven't seen the movie nor the musical. When I first saw the trailer, I thought it was kinda okay. I like the snipets of songs they sang. The CG was weird but not weird enough for me apparently, as minutes later I saw the like:dislike ratio and the number of comments about it. Though when I read the plot of the musical, I thought it was kinda fishy. Like something is off.. This theory might be it, it might not be. XD

[@sydneytaylor8128]

When I first saw the trailer, I thought it was gonna be some kind of adult comedy for furries or something. I'd heard of the musical but didn't make the connection at the time.

[@dougpouncey]

i was one of them, and i just thought “freaking furries”

[@Wasthere73]

Never knew about the musical. Wanted to watch it after the memes. Went drunk with friends, was the best experience I ever had. 10/10.

[@aesofspades2468]

Me: music YES animation uuh concept sure

[@margarethmichelina5146]

"He's the hot one, He's seductive, He's the good singer" You forgot that he's *Jason Derulo*

[@sheepniniii7418]

margareth michelina that fact never leaves my mind ._.

[@soysoytechnologies3141]

*god thank you i did not watch this movie*

[@RmnGnzlz]

I think you mean *jAsOoN dErUlOoOo*

[@DirectorsChoice]

Jason Deruloooooo

[@fieryfurnace2818]

@@RmnGnzlz mr autotune

[@makaniwebb9358]

It sounds like Step 3, dangling the prize, is the one you need to be most aware of. That seems to be where the differences start between cults and regular friendships.

[@sandrinecestmoi892]

And regular youtube channels

[@ifinnalychangedmyprofilepi4888]

"Loyal theorists" you say, showering us with compliments and indicating how we should be loyal. AND then introduceing prize of being shouted out ehh... Sure where do i sign up

[@ifinnalychangedmyprofilepi4888]

Almost forgot to like my own comment

[@FromJamestime]

It’s where.

[@user-cn8xi4el6h]

Cult time

[@Aliyea]

Do not question the leader 🤖

[@xx_granny_norma_xx2856]

Where can I sign up for the cult?

[@franceswildgen1907]

I heard a review for cats that went like “this movie is so bad that if they played it on an airplane I would still walk out”

[@rudyolfschiermeister8167]

I would walk out even if the movie wasn't playing

[@franceswildgen1907]

Rudyolf Schiermeister oof

[@redundantchannels8154]

This movie's so bad if I had to watch it or get mauled slowly and painfully to death I'd choose getting mauled.

[@strawberrystupidity7761]

Rudyolf Schiermeister mood

[@weegee9616]

Playing this on a loop and making people watch this, will make you worse than every bad person in history ever.

[@TheLizbliz]

I know this is mainly focusing on the new version, but I think you should also consider this: originally Old Deuteronomy is a male cat (they clearly casted Judi Dench cause she has history with the musical, and it's one of the top roles in the story) and as you said the lyrics say she has live 99 lives, but originally the song goes, "Old Deuteronomy's lived a long time He's a cat who has lived many lives in succession-" then not long after goes "Old Deuteronomy's buried nine wives And more i am tempted to say ninety-nine-" it goes with the cult theory cause there have been several accounts of cult leaders having multiple partners such as Warren Jeffs, David Koresh, and Pazuzu Algarad. -pls notice this matpai-

[@MelonHere20]

Yeah, that's a good point. I hope he does see this comment though

[@internationalgospelembassy6653]

Hi😍

[@dragon9261]

oml "matpai" x'D

[@internationalgospelembassy6653]

@@dragon9261 Hi

[@brunobucciaratiswife]

No, Old Deut has just been around so long that he’s had many wives. The “99” part is an exaggeration made by Rum Tum. He’s not a cult leader, he’s just housecat mufasa

[@sophiea7]

Jennyanydots: *dancing and singing about her life as a jellicle cat* Me: Ma’am this is a Wendy’s

[@LadyOnikara]

With how plump.... um, I mean fluffy she is, I think she knows that.

[@mothiestman4995]

You're just figuring this out now? Back when I asked my theater teacher what the plot to the musical was, and he just said "cat cult".

[@retardeddog5176]

he needed a lot of evidence to back up his claim, so people would actually consider it

[@salthesock1546]

I need to meet your theatre teacher.

[@mothiestman4995]

@@salthesock1546 He is a confusing wonder

[@salthesock1546]

Pebble Person lmao

[@heineken3871]

Mat pat traveled back to the past to be a teacher. But hey, that's just a theory... A KZbinr theory

[@endamagennis6889]

In Jonestown, a lot of the members realised just a step too late that Jim Jones was dangerous. They were trapped in Jonestown and many tried to escape but were gunned down or forced to drink the coolaid.

[@nutpeg6915]

Cool aid as in poison?

[@aliceinwonderland8314]

@@nutpeg6915 the poison was in the coolaid, hence the phrase drinking the coolaid

[@SiminaDar]

Fun fact: they drank flavor-aid, not koolaid. But koolaid is a more popular brand so the phrase morphed.

[@BloodyAngel88]

Or they were injected with the poison (like many of the babies and toddlers in the cult).

[@BloodyAngel88]

Kool-Aid***

[@lukathelobster3091]

My 5 year old brother asked at the end of the movie "Wait did that girl cat die at the end?" And I didnt even connect that until he said that

[@APoliticalConfusionAndMess]

I know one of them does by watching the on-stage musical.

[@DivineChaos204]

Lol, is he a psychic

[@cakeboy7782]

I think your bother is gonna be a detective when he grows up

[@cannibalisticrequiem]

I mean if you... I hesitate to say "watched" because even the theatre community mostly hates Cats, but if you like/enjoy the musical, then it's not a surprise. Honestly I thought it was pretty obvious since in the majority of the songs, the characters sing about cats having numerous lives, and that the Jellicle Ball is for the expressed purpose of a cat being chosen to be reborn-- since the old wives tale is that cats have nine lives.

[@lukathelobster3091]

@@cannibalisticrequiem Yeah Im kinda stupid

[@amberlynightengale8382]

Petition for MatPat's fourth channel to be called Stage Theory where he does theories for plays and musicals. Would love to see what this man makes out of my childhood favorites!

[@Kelpeon]

The Cats Movie Scared Everyone, Even Furrys.

[@sinfulwrath666]

Well this is I can agree upon.

[@Sirake]

As a furry who grew up listening to the songs of Cats every time my mother drove the car, I thought it was fine

[@Lily-ko7tk]

As a furry...I can confirm

[@afo985]

I agree

[@pinkremus961]

Lol

[@butterflystickers]

I asked my dad: "You saw the original cats play, is the movie anything like it?" And he said: "Kiddo I fell asleep through that play and the only thing I remember is that they got taken by a spaceship at the end." And I just sat there like: O_o

[@elizawulf8180]

I had a family member say the same thing about it... O_o

[@labellelace]

Moopy to be fair, there’s not much of a plot. The musical was popular because the set and costumes were visually appealing and the music was fun to listen to, especially “memory”.

[@marli8907]

I fell in love with it as child. It's fantastical and weird. The dancing is phenomenal. If you want to see the real stageplay, watch the original taping. I think I disliked this movie because it took away some of the best parts: the costuming and dance for favor of CGI and big name stars.

[@salthesock1546]

Marlissa Cunningham yeah, I mean, I’m definitely one of those theatre kids Mat was talking about and this film made Cats weird and made them “relatable to kids because they have celebrities” but no, it made it like a cult. Yay.

[@soysoytechnologies3141]

...?

[@lunagotdippedinsauce9432]

Me: *Sees Video in recommended* Me: No, matpat. Don't do this to yourself.

[@MaximillianRobespheregill]

In a way it is like we know there is something wrong with the movie subconsciously.

[@MegeGabe_Personal]

@@MaximillianRobespheregill yes

[@fantact]

He took the money, so now he has to.

[@theanarchistocelot1620]

He has lost his sanity

[@Testtesttesttesttest]

This is the second time I’ve had to take notes about movies being cults *and I’m only taking notes for wholesome family fun*

[@aguyonyoutube4sure]

This is a weird sequel to the “fifty shades of gray” video.

[@theGagarianplanet]

I was gonna say, are we just going to forget that video happened?

[@TheRealDayzohn]

This movie series is getting out of hand

[@daddysnake5250]

i like that in that one it focused on the cult from the perspective of the leader/ new recruit aspect. this one focused more on how the rest of the cult influences the new recruit in supplication to the leader

[@shangynecolston479]

Oh God yes!

[@mihneazarojanu5761]

Jesus, you have to give credit where it's due. Matpat took one of the worst received movies ever and made it into a serious video talking about cults and how they recruit people. Well done, seriously.

[@burmessafox3939]

Kinda want to watch the movie because of this

[@kaexewires7531]

they tryna cult thooooo!

[@sandkitten16]

I still see emoji movie as worse than this movie, and worse than that iiis definitely...uh...what was it called...food fight? I try to forget. I really do.

[@mihneazarojanu5761]

@@sandkitten16 I mean, you're right. That was just the most obvious cash grab, and that's why I called this movie one of the worst, and not the worst.

[@sandkitten16]

@@mihneazarojanu5761 ahhh yeah, I misread. Apologies. Nice to know we agree though.

[@medusa5472]

Can't believe you just made me wanna watch Cats.

[@angelbrynner]

Meee Toooo! Lolol

[@BlackEpyon]

I haven't seen it in the theatres, but I want to get a copy on video.

[@VenomQuill]

Goodness, me, too. ._.

[@cloaker7237]

I can ruin that urge to see Cats with 2 words: Rule Thirty-Four

[@BlackEpyon]

@@cloaker7237 What's wrong with that?

[@jelleato5566]

That laugh at the beginning is SUPER contagious 😂😂😂

[@meloclipse2951]

"wHeRe'S tAyLoR???" Sis I was wondering that the whole time

[@sarahtelford9601]

Same lmaooo and I’m 23

[@lesliesackey2515]

She literally pops in for like the last 10 minutes; I was disappointed 😂

[@moonwalkerangel7008]

She’s the cat on the moon singing about Mcavity.

[@microwave4928]

Screw Taylor

[@scottposton3428]

I said the same thing watching the Lorax

[@ventusxzephyr13]

When Cult's try to recruit me: Why don't you come over to a party? Me: Will I have to leave my house and interact with strangers? Cult: Yes but- Me:I'M NOT READY FOR THIS LEVEL OF COMMITMENT

[@dustinm2717]

Good news, there are probably online cults too

[@gigaherz_]

@@dustinm2717 Certainly! I can send you a Discord invite. Don't worry we are all friends there, like family, you can leave the server any time! We won't find your address, sedate you every night, and systematically replace body parts with cybernetic replacements. Not at all!

[@moiraihlang5722]

@@gigaherz_ sounds shady... where do i join?

[@527dalto]

@@gigaherz_ can I get an invite to this please?

[@artemanhaoliva4045]

@@gigaherz_ omoshiroi... sign me in

[@highdivinity8243]

“Classrooms”, “Graduation”? Huh, starting to wonder if my school is a cult....

[@alphega1983]

and if you're home schooled, you're looked upon differently and shunned by society

[@BC0MBS]

Coincidence I think not

[@princessazulaofthefirenati5870]

120th like and😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@LazGato]

Shhhhhhhhh they might find you is you spill the beans...

[@thedivel4176]

It is

[@arafe.1012]

jellicles: We're just gonna give her a new life Mat: seems kinda sus

[@GrippyGoth]

This honestly makes the most sense, I left the movie confused and a little mortified by how they killed that cat like it was a good desirable thing

[@gundamgunpla4685]

This is what the story is. If you read the original this is it.

[@lindahaws6529]

matt: man this movie is so bad also matt pat: BUT ITS ALSO A SACRIFICIAL CULT OF BRAINWASHED...

[@jiado6893]

It wasn’t really a secret.

[@crystelthewolf]

I can guarantee that MOST fans of the original musical stage play already know that the jellicles are a cult lmao

[@PaxtonSonye]

Disgusting you are

[@Hinatachan360]

Yeah. It's pretty obvious that it's a death cult.

[@killallhumons2183]

I really love your profile pic

[@WattsieMMA]

i just realised mat compared cats to charles manson

[@mafiawashere9872]

Yup, but not in a bad way

[@moonlight_dulcet]

something that personally scares me is that i know that im too emotionally vulnerable and gullible that i'd probably get looped into a cult without realising at some point in life

[@sarahomiracle]

I have the same concerns.

[@mememe4188]

The whole movie I felt like the cats needed a censor bar.

[@TheWeekndGaming]

Miraculous Critique r/youngpeopleyoutube

[@g4fly4ever8]

@@TheWeekndGaming r/ihavereddit

[@tomjones6944]

censor, like blurred out? I am pretty sure they used the "smoothing" technique, that's why you couldn't see any of the male actors bulges; but yea if meant their faces you could have just poked your eyes out; but honestly you actually went to see it (hopefully cuz you had to review it for your channel, or IRL job; I feel sorry for you if that's the case. My understanding is that ALW wrote the musical as spectacle, a job for the costume and set designers; that the plot was always sorta dumb because he based it off those silly poems about cats by TS Eliot)?

[@thorondor1593]

But the furry audience needs to stay...

[@g4fly4ever8]

@@thorondor1593 ...Dead

[@foreversingle1765]

Me watching - ooooh Matpat - The Jellicle Cats is a Jellicle Cul- Ad - WELCOME TO HOW TO GET YOUR CATS TO STOP MEOWING!! Me - Oh shizzle, they got him!!

[@WhiteTiger950]

Why would you want your cats to stop meowing? I think it's a pleasant sound.

[@foreversingle1765]

@@WhiteTiger950 Idk, but that ad like... Must've kidnapped matpat

[@quantum.codex42]

Ad: aLL Of mY CaTs aRE SiLeNT!!

[@sammi1078]

Frankly, this movie is almost nothing like the musical. For one thing the musical doesn't even follow the kidnapping of cats, the only kidnapped cat is Deuteronomy and thats only for one moment as Mistoffeles brings him back immediately

[@Clammychow]

Yea, the movie completely warped the whole structure and characters of the original stage show (which was lowkey kinda good if you dig into it)

[@erinidum]

@@Clammychow The stage show is high key amazing dunno what planet you live on lmao

[@moonsugar8320]

i think macavity kidnaps some of the kittens but it's not because he wants the prize or anything, it's just cause he's evil and he wants to

[@silasfrisenette9226]

@@erinidum said no one ever ... Possibly literally .. 😅

[@coffeeaddict9605]

@@silasfrisenette9226 Yeah no, you're wrong. The musical is one of the most beloved musicals out there, it's just the movie that is terrible.

[@hackercow211]

I grew up hearing tales of the Jonestown in Guyana (My Parents are Guyanese) and I remember it shaking me down to the bones as a kid and this episode still reminds me of it. (PS the Kool-Aid Reference was a reference to the beverage Jim Jones used to commit his crime)

[@dopesickdog]

(not to be rude but) i think he knew that, the phrase is only common parlance _because_ of the Jonestown massacre

[@cameronjadewallace]

well, actually, they used flavor-aid, but it's like the same thing, right?

[@hackercow211]

@@cameronjadewallace I think so

[@evanc6508]

Cats: Makes a horrible movie MatPat: IT’S A CULT!!!!!!!

[@myriahkeays3846]

It is though loli

[@tktvr9703]

It's a Good movie, in it's own Way who would ever dare to watch it

[@thememeslinger7506]

It is....it literally is...no doubt about it

[@noonenowhere877]

What I despise is that he lumps the original Musical in with the movie saying that it was always intended to be about a cult. What a freaking hack. >:(

[@thememeslinger7506]

@@noonenowhere877 Oh come on man The original musical has a metric arseload of culty elements if you look deep enough into it The TS Eliot poems however No...there's nothing culty there at all No sarcasm

[@johnncat2277]

Cats the movie: about Victoria becoming a jellical cat Cats the musical: about Victoria going into heat for the first time

[@cakes4494]

I'm sorry WhAt?

[@johnncat2277]

@@cakes4494 yeaaaah in the musical there was 3 ish storylines but the one about victoria is just basically that . Its a beautiful musical tho

[@sephandremanticore5438]

Definitely would have been more fun to watch

[@cannibalisticrequiem]

@@johnncat2277 I wouldn't say it's a "storyline", but something that just happens. I was also going to say that it's not the first time Victoria goes into heat, but I'm not quite sure since I *think* she's supposed to be a kitten since she hangs out with Jemima, Ecetera, Electra, Tumblebrutus, Pouncival, etc. But then she's also shown interacting with the older cats, with some of the toms (Alonzo, Plato, and Quaxo/Mistoffolees) pursuing her.

[@johnncat2277]

@@cannibalisticrequiem Oh true, my friend told me it was her first time (but not sure of course), during that scene/song, where everyone's in a circle and she and another cat is in the middle and she gets lifted up?

[@1castellp]

How do we warn adults about cults?: Cats 2019 How do we warn kids about strangers?: three little pigs

[@theycallmerainy2010]

We also use Hansel and Gretel to warn kids not to trust people (sometimes even parents) and the story of the tooth fairy to teach kids that that they aren't worthless (no matter how much they think they are)

[@theycallmerainy2010]

LittleRedRhuari RRR no, you can sell their teeth and organs and make millions

[@katherined]

don't forget about that rescue rangers' cola cult episode

[@hilowpeoples]

The saddest thing about this is that Tugger and Misto were turned straight. Tragic.

[@possums154]

Honestly tho

[@massachusettslegalizeweed4208]

I know I'm three years late here but yeah you're right lol

[@yanakirsten7438]

"Pause your 'Dear Evan Hansen' playlist" I feel called out

[@torazely]

Currently its the Beetlejuice playlist for me, but Dear Even Hansen is always a fallback, along with Wicked and Hamilton

[@grommc]

Nivan Jeffries are you my sister lol

[@torazely]

@@grommc I mean, I'm a guy, so probably not 😆

[@westonkouryfan69]

Hadestown playlist raise your glass

[@musicallypan]

@@torazely Beetlejuice is sexy-

[@Overlordd_d]

He made the terrifying movie more terrifying

[@ru1740]

50 Shades of Grey: Cult Five Nights at Freddy’s: Cult Cats: Cult

[@ryanricke2247]

Rubix and Quinndly: cult

[@helpimstuckinafridgeandits305]

KZbin: cult

[@emilyb-jones2339]

Potato:cult

[@gd5259]

Joe mama: cult

[@1313stjimmy]

Let's just be honest, it's cults all the way down.

[@DominationofProcrastination]

There's this dude, Sideways, who made a pretty interesting video called " Why the music in Cats is much more worse than you think" if anyone wants to check it out

[@joshgrumiaux6820]

and Lindsey Ellis' "Why is Cats?"

[@surpriseddumpling2606]

“Put that Dear Evan Hansen playlist on pause” Me: *N E V E R*

[@FaustsHouseofHorrors]

I just got to see it today

[@scififor]

It shall play for forever

[@vanillaa_spice460]

I want to see deh

[@kk_cats6072]

Me: whats that? Is it pg13?

[@Urneighborhoodspidergirl]

Kk Books it’s a Broadway musical

[@sebnimations1800]

Teacher: why are you laughing? Me: nothing. My brain: CatPat

[@avoidant560]

CatPat

[@dracula6271]

Lmao

[@c.r.4985]

Little buddy Skip

[@yogurt4life358]

LMAO

[@John_Doe3rd]

No it's Jack's meme all over again I hate it so no

[@marymoore8633]

Matpat: talks about a cult Me, who was in a production of Cats: yes

[@cafe_rae]

Was in Cats in what way?

[@ashishere771]

@@cafe_rae ;)

[@thegreendragon9628]

@@ashishere771 **gags**

[@aidenives-day2259]

how where you in cats what do you mean

[@user-cv4bl3oz5n]

Lavender Nomad Probably a school or community theater Production. I was in it in my high school’s production a few years ago. It was a weird musical...

[@Papsi-ol6qy]

I’m not surprised that something this weird could be a cult

[@lindsaylavender9110]

Let’s be real, Matpat is a former theatre kid so this theory has brewing for years

[@orenji-ov2yq]

"Cats: the worst thing happened to cats since dogs". Best quote ever!!!

[@ashtwoash]

orenji12341 I was gonna comment this but you beat me to it

[@hug-the-raccoon]

Everyone: You can't make me hate Cats more Matpat: Hold my jellicle.

[@Erw9296]

That sounds wrong... ;-;

[@itziza11]

that sounds like an innuendo 😂

[@a.s.1412]

I've watched about 7-8 film theory videos today and matpat has already explained to me the way to make a cult three times.

[@s29nv1sr1]

Dude, this theory is still less scary than the actual movie. Edit: Fun fact, my dad and brother went to go see _The Lion King_ in theaters over the summer, and my brother was legitimately terrified by the _Cats_ previews.

[@viviyielena]

Indeed

[@anonb4632]

He's not the first. www.bustle.com/p/are-the-cats-in-cats-in-a-cult-investigation-19492797

[@rider338]

I hate tobago

[@taskc7626]

@@rider338 Trivago

[@rider338]

@@taskc7626 hotel?

[@kylerbelshaw1465]

4:47 "Nicknames bestowed by the cult" "Henceforth, you will now be known as: Sharkbait!"

[@averyfields2871]

NO!!!!! NEMO!!!!!!!

[@bananashaman8902]

I hate you for that

[@TF2Fan101]

Madeline Zmoos Enough with the Sharkbait.

[@kylerbelshaw1465]

@@TF2Fan101 SHARKBAIT HOO HA... oh

[@TF2Fan101]

Kyler Belshaw It actually goes... SHARKBAIT, OOH... Buh buh doo...

[@user-xi1xn2ij5v]

" Pause your Dear Evan Hansen playlist." ....... But I haven't even started yet!

[@sarahadair7320]

Same along with Hamilton

[@carrie_2828]

@@sarahadair7320 and heathers

[@marvel0usmaniac535]

Don’t forget Beetlejucie

[@iwantwafflefries7599]

Aaand Be More Chill

[@jimjamballsy]

I RELATE TO AN UNHEALTHY LEVEL TO THIS 💚

[@cattsmither1879]

imagine messing up the main premise of the musical your adapting so much that it takes a 17 minute theory to explain it.

[@absenceofwordz3828]

When i saw the title i was like: "This movie is creepy because of the lore? Not the cats itself?"

[@princessazulaofthefirenati5870]

20th like

[@DeathnoteBB]

Well before the movie, yeah

[@goofballcartoonist7848]

it's *TITLE not tittle omg someone's going to read that wrong

[@artsy8888]

Little Theory (goes with this theory): How does the leader of the Jellicle cats have so many lives maybe because when they sacrifice the cat the Jellicle Cat leader gets there life as a extra one..... Edit: I didnt think my comment would get noticed

[@thanalincoln]

I'm preeetty sure that the leader hadn't actually lived more lives, and in the video Mat said that it was contradictory.

[@namkedi]

Maybe she hasn't lived 99 lives but she has sacrificed 99 cats

[@manonsegur7547]

That's pure horror movie stuff. I love it.

[@artsy8888]

I didnt think my comment would get noticed wow thanks guys:)

[@N3RDYG0GGLES]

Honestly the only reason the line even exists is because casting OD as a woman meant the line about him having outlived 9 or 99 wives and having numerous progeny made no sense. So they lazily changed it to 99 lives. In the original they do say he’s lived many lives in succession, but it’s said as if he’s either been the jellicle choice himself many times or just had multiple lives as cats are said to, and the idea of a cat not remembering their past life is never mentioned.

[@paradiselotz]

I was just listening to Dear Evan Hansen this afternoon...felt personally attacked in the first 30 seconds lol

[@xxcolorfullcrystalxx5753]

Hannah Elizabeth 222 lol

[@shutupanddancewithme2657]

Lol agreed

[@plausibillity2032]

Mat pat: *hey look at these cats* Also mat pat: *theyve been brainwashed to try and be the best cat to be sacrificed into the sky, and think that the cult is better than normal life*

[@Adambobadam]

Yeah nobody cares

[@rascallybloom567]

400th like

[@Chronicler9]

I was one of those who really enjoyed "Cats" the Broadway Musical, but was laughed at for saying I enjoyed it when I was in High School. For that reason, I've been afraid to watch the movie because it got laughed at far beyond the original musical and i'm afraid my naturally eccentric mind would be in love with it. Then I watched this Film Theory on it and now i have to watch the dang movie bc that was EXACTLY why i loved the original Cats - the analogies! And, like, NO ONE around me got it. i just stayed silent and enjoyed it on my own. Happy you did a theory on it, to at least get the analogies out to those who wouldn't be able to enjoy the original musical. (admittedly, "eating cockroaches with human faces" does sound absolutely weird but now i'm frickin' curious Lol)

[@kaizoaudio1798]

Fun Fact: It wasn’t Kool-Aid at Jonestown, it was Flavor-Aid. They couldn’t even spring for the good stuff with their cyanide.

[@anonb4632]

They don't sell either in this country so I've no idea what either of these is like. Poor Kool Aid though, having your product associated with mass murder... It actually balances out all the artificial additives they stuff it with.

[@ethanweiss1141]

Did you get this from Hellsing abridged?

[@jamescastle99]

Is this a TFS reference?

[@syntaxerror9994]

Flavor-aid... eesh, didnt need the cyanide.

[@EditDeath]

I actually looked that up after Hellsing Ultimate Abridged, and it turns out they had both. Maybe the store didn't have enough in stock?

[@ThatGuy-rv2xk]

No one: Matpat: Cats is a cult! Me, a cat owner: *Confused screaming*

[@Dinosaurianationazation]

Me: I thought so........

[@KiwiPaws76]

Huh a cult not the first time that he talk about a cult "ddlc"

[@Dinosaurianationazation]

See Fifty Shades of Grey.

[@snufnik]

Wouldnt be surprisef

[@jito7377]

As a person owned by a cat I have no problem with his. I'm serving her faithfully.

[@sportsimpossible8637]

The dark secret of cats: it’s a weird movie about perverted cats dancing around naked

[@olivereatskids]

bro this has 69 likes

[@tinytinkergacha7747]

@@olivereatskids nope! it's actually 110 UvU

[@Fiddlestics17]

That's no secret

[@mo0nflowersart]

its secretly rated R, I've seen it. The movie warned me before watching its explicit scenes.

[@fakelady8130]

16:26 him just trying to say the word while I am just going crazy because I wasn't expecting to see my home country🤣 (finland)

[@rachelfox8108]

Jennyanydots actually states why she wants the Jellicle Choice: "I cannot stay in this kitchen!" She says it a few times. My guess is that she has a strong commitment to the Jellicles but is a kitchen mouser shut in by her humans, and uses her many hobbies as a path for fulfillment, where she has no love from her humans.

[@seb391]

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[@rachelfox8108]

@@seb391 You're going to have to help me out here, I don't know Morse code 😊

[@Trollestiatumblur]

I have never seen the movie, but that’s TERRIBLE if that’s the movie’s portrayal of Jennyanydots! In the musical she’s the sweet old lady cat who lounges around her house all day, sleeping. Then at night she helps the less fortunate (the mice and roaches). Definitely NOT somebody that’s supposed to be chasing mice in the kitchen and neglected by her humans.

[@DM-it1qf]

2:00 or as Mark Kermode reviewing it for the BBC said “it’s not even uncanny valley, it’s more like awkward corner or bewildering basement.”

[@ToaDrakua]

Or the tiny little cutout just before you fall down the side of the cliff face.

[@Lynch2507]

*looks at the fifty shades theory* "Come here often?"

[@felixsubakti6907]

*The Jellicles getting busted for being a cult* Christian grey right next to it: "First Time?"

[@twixandothertrixes]

“In a Theater” Oh boy..... is it sad that this gave me sad nostalgia.

[@legendarymediahouse]

To anyone curious, multiple people survived Jonestown including Jim Jones' two sons who were at a basketball tournament.

[@jayzone43]

Do the survivors still hold on to Jim Jones' teachings?

[@CoraBean]

Ang Pagbabago Jim Jones once led a protest to put suicide nets up at the Golden Gate Bridge

[@LazGato]

@@CoraBean Last podcast on the left covers his story in depth. He was against racism and helped the homeless. Over a good person but he changed. Recommend a listen to if your curious about cult leaders and how they gain power.

[@Katharsis540]

Sorry but there was documentary that only two people survived and the man who spoke watched his wife then give the poison to their toddler.

[@legendarymediahouse]

@@Katharsis540 no, I believe there were a few people who escaped into the Jungle (I think one of them was security or something) and then his two sons who refused to follow their father's order. Sorry if my wording implied otherwise.

[@AnonyBoiii]

I love how Mat was laughing at just how weird and horrible it is Because it’s just so true

[@normalhuman9878]

I probably would have laughed at how bad it was if I had seen it

[@imthatextrakid8292]

“Hit the pause on that Dear Evan Hansen playlist” *I feel called out*

[@kristineramirez2223]

same-

[@auburncryptd6318]

Me watching this: *WAIT. Wasn't this the EXACT way I've been recruiting members for my discord server*

[@atahz006]

When he said he himself didn't even think this was a theory anymore, I don't why but it freaked me out.

[@CivRev10]

Cats, the musical, was actually a case study a professor had me write on cult indoctrination when I told him I enjoyed the musical. So I really enjoyed this video.

[@tobygandhi1951]

Me before watching: huh this is gonna be good Me 18 minute later: holy crap that was good

[@siyotsistu]

See its exactly what you wanted, now come with us to have a get together and watch this movie til the end. And after that we have a little surprise if you join the theorist family!!!

[@Zeffer32]

I've been a huge fan of Cats since I was a kid, wearing out an old vhs of the live london cast recording. This makes so much sense I wonder if it was in Webbers' or Elliots mind whilst writing

[@notmahir5595]

Haven't even seen cats yet and to be honest don't plan on watching it but i still managed to watch this whole theory goood job matt , good job

[@jotaro9251]

Star Platinum!

[@callumtait4793]

Same

[@justaguythatsbadateverythi2499]

I don't watch/play a lot of the things mentioned here..

[@tomjones6944]

Yeah don't see it unless you're trying to lose your eyesight, didn't you see the Boston Globe's review?? :D

[@BlindGirlUK]

Same

[@captaintulio2441]

“Press pause on that Dear Evan Hanson playlist” Me: *takes out aux cord*

[@kateyepawtch]

DEAR EVAN HANSEN WE'VE BEEN WAY TOO OUT OF TOUCH

[@captaintulio2441]

THINGS HAVE BEEN CRAZY AND IT SUCKS THAT WE DONT TALK THAT MUCH

[@verytiredteen9082]

@@captaintulio2441 BUT I SHOULD TELL YOU THAT I THINK OF YOU EACH NIGHT

[@ellioctopus]

@@verytiredteen9082 I RUB MY NIPPLES AND START MOANING WITH DELIGHT WHY WOULD YOU WRITE THAT??

[@HK47_115]

WHY ARE WE YELLING

[@seenl6eight258]

The Emoji Movie: I’m the worst movie ever! Cats: Hold my Yarn

[@jimijimo3289]

Atleast I could sleep after watching The Emoji Movie.

[@seenl6eight258]

Ricky James and at least The Emoji Movie don’t make my eyes bleed

[@p3chv0gel22]

I would say, the emoji movie was the worst AD, and Cats was the worst movie

[@rachezzel]

I don't know why but I read that as hold my yam

[@seenl6eight258]

globetrotter while The Emoji Movie was undoubtedly an awful movie, Cats imo was an even bigger waste of time, especially since the actors had to sing etc.. I wouldn’t really call The Emoji Movie the worst movie ever, since there’s definitely way worse movies out there and just Animation in general that I hate way more.

[@IMightBeVanny]

I can't believe a cult analogy is what convinces me to watch a musical about literal cats

[@KainaX122]

The movie seemed to emphasize a point that no one ever noticed about the musical There was no plot

[@someeejit]

I would be a little bit jellicle, but in the words of Freddy Mercury: "I don't wanna die"

[@caleblewis8169]

You don't?

[@ArmundJay]

Yeah, but Who Wants to Live Forever?

[@beyondheaven6736]

After watching this movie? Sometimes I wish I’d never been born at all

[@anonb4632]

I think watching this film would make me stone cold crazy.

[@friedliver145]

Okay the trailer was obviously terrible so I didn’t even go to the movie but you suddenly made me wanna see it

[@dollykumo2959]

Me too tbh

[@toastandbutter7367]

Me too tbh...

[@fizzyliz5459]

It's not worth it It's REALLY BAD

[@dollykumo2959]

@@fizzyliz5459 sometimes you have to sacrifice something for satisfaction

[@oideshannpuu_]

@@fizzyliz5459 I think it's good🤨

[@macbogus799]

I watched the first scene and realized I wasted my money and seconds of my life

[@tinywow344]

When I watched this movie I actually thought “wait isn’t the Jellicle Choice going to die?”

[@laurazaetz9505]

I showed the original musical movie to my bf and he said "is this a cult? Oh my God it's actually a cult!" I mean, when it comes to the 1990s version, I guess I'm a member lol

[@K.Marie119]

Kinda doubt Andrew Loyd Webber had that in mind when he adapted the poems... it just sort of all came together in a way that gives that impression...

[@speed_queen]

Matpat: Cats is about cats joining a cult Cats fans: we been knew

[@roguieC60]

Cats has a fan base? Bruh

[@Sarah_Sparkles]

@@roguieC60 the musical has been around forever bruh. not fans of this terrible shitty movie

[@roguieC60]

@Salty no

[@noonenowhere877]

@@roguieC60 The irony of your statement is that it's technically had a fanbase since the 19th century.

[@marli8907]

@@noonenowhere877 YUP. The original poems are weird AF, but people love them.

[@scottposton3428]

Theory: Victoria died after she got thrown out and this was her brain's way of trying to "help her" with not belonging

[@silabuseguler]

"where's taylor" is my mood lol

[@kikuoisthebestandnoonecant1915]

WhErE’s TaYlOr?

[@kikuoisthebestandnoonecant1915]

Ponnor Studios 😂😂😂

[@leggomyeggo2201]

I was watching this with my mom and literally like the whole movie we were like "wHeRe'S TaYLoR

[@japoniano]

Every man in the theatre: "Where's Taylor's CGI cat-hole?"

[@kikuoisthebestandnoonecant1915]

Mauricio Villegas I-😳😳😳

[@vexan7435]

*So you're telling me a cult is basically just a mean friend group?*

[@fella_named_smokey]

Basically, yeah better be an introvert

[@allingquilatonestacion4353]

@@fella_named_smokey not introvert. more like, loner wolf. lol bad word choice there mate XD

[@7waterdrops_7]

Yeah I guess so lol 😂

[@schechter01]

Kinda...a friend group with a leadership & a toxic social dynamic. Which is run by the leader & maintained by all the suc--er, by the _friends._

[@thecorrurtion215]

It’s a manipulative “friendship” that is trying to exploit you to get a larger reach for people to exploit

[@PhantomGhost2517]

I'm confused why you put creepy in the title, this movie is already the stuff of nightmares.

[@ravenaldimier3950]

I have nothing bad to say about this video, it's amazing and Matpat and the team did such a good job. What I hate is the "animation" they used for the Jellecles, it looks like someone hopped into SFM and decided to make a full length animated movie in 30 minutes then stopped the render half way through. I'm so glad I didn't watch this movie, but I'm glad that I watched this episode