Film Theory: Spiderman vs Spiderman Battle Royale!

[@FilmTheory]

Since a lot of people are asking about the Far From Home finale, two things we factored in but didn't expressly write into the episode: 1. Across BOTH MCU movies, Peter's use of the Spider Sense is inconsistent, just like the other Spidermen. Writers tend to "forget" that it exists when they need to put Spider-Man in danger, and so sure, Tom Holland ends the movie having "mastered" the sense, but we have no evidence that he'll be able to continue using it from this point forward (and we guessed he probably won't, because it'll make him too OP if he can predict EVERY move headed his way). We have to go by what we've seen...and his sense up until the end of FFH hasn't been great. 2. Yes, he "masters" the Spider Sense at the end, but is it giving him faster reactions times? He's able to SEE THROUGH THE ILLUSIONS of Mysterio...which helps him avoid bullets and avoid the gun...but his REACTION TIME is still on par with the other Spidermen (at least when it comes to avoiding LOTS of bullets, which they all can do). It gave him better intuition. So again, largely a wash when compared to the other portrayals of the character. Don't get me wrong...Tom Holland is my FAVORITE Spider-Man. But FFH didn't give us the confidence that the Spider Sense was that much better than anyone else's. As such, when it comes to power set, in our estimation, Miles in Spiderverse still wins. But like I said, it's a theory. There are TONS of ways to analyze the question. I'm really enjoying reading everyone's thoughts on the issue -- keep 'em coming!

[@Lucifer-sn9ir]

Wait what about civil war? Couldn't you have used the airport battle a bit for Tom?

[@donutlover1913]

The Film Theorists I love y’alls channel but I have one thing to say about the battle royal. Instant kill webs.

[@SuperDman1966]

Would EDITH count as a suit? Because if it just counts as a gadget then drones would be pretty useful for this fight, especially those that can turn invisible. Plus instant kill is on his normal suit, not just the iron spider one.

[@franciscocampos9303]

Eitheir way, tom holland's spider-man didn't deserve last place since he had mastered his "peter tingle" and we don't have enough proof to say if he will still have it or not, but i believe he will keep his powers mastered, since they will be important in the next movie againt the Sinister 6 (a theory that i believe it will happen)

[@cherriesaphfire4966]

*mattypatty has joined the chat*

[@lanap4287]

Me watching this quietly. Matpat: I'm sensing you screaming at your screens right now.

[@jposadas8763]

LM pantomime FR THO 😂😂😂

[@rocketops8643]

True

[@AllIsFiller]

LM pantomime ok? You don't have to tell us what you do.

[@oliverpeachey1852]

True

[@priffy.]

Creeper Aw man ..? Wdum?? He’s not telling us to do anything smh

[@sunnyp6982]

Matpat: Tom holland has taser webs etc Also Matpat: I can't really see electricity coming up in a fight

[@sharlenecamposeco209]

I'm dead

[@seabadger0492]

Miles can use electricity, so Andrew (ranked 4th) might be able to beat Miles

[@justbechill32]

And miles has electric powers

[@seksaouiabderraouf2531]

He did overlook a lot of stuff

[@lmpuIsee]

JD Archbold yeah but miles can do what Andrew can better and more stuff so... yeah

[@kingbaaz9896]

Thumbnail: who will survive? Me: Everyone, Spider-Man just doesn't kill

[@probot6515]

Confused Aunt May: "But Spider-Man doesn't kill people..."

[@CrazedPVP]

Arbaaz Basha he killed mj before in the comics

[@l3gend561]

U got a point

[@Mimsadoodle]

@@CrazedPVP Which one I wanna read that

[@legosharkproductions1100]

Arbaaz Basha He has killed people in the comics.

[@genesissupernova7114]

I just realized something, the Peter B. Parker in "into the spider verse" has mechanical web shooters and not organic. So its not technically the same guy

[@BezddDakota]

When I first watched Into The Spider verse, I thought that Toby's Spiderman was the one who died early in the film because he acknowledged everything in the trilogy so Peter B as Toby makes no sense to me.

[@Lelouch458]

Not the same Spider-Man as Toby but is very similar.

[@myselfthethird3393]

if we compare the hair puffiness ( never thought i'd be saying this sentence...) , it would also suggest that would be andrew garfield's spiderman . yes , tom Holland has that curl in the front too, but his hair are much flatter.

[@m1vsis0n]

he fell into a deep depression so his organic webs stopped working

[@petempressorpethog4587]

Yeah because the tobey's spider man died 10 years after becoming spider man. Peter B Parker is just a multi-verse variant of tobey's spidey

[@maddenb4926]

Top 2 Marvel snaps 1) Thanos’ snap 2) Gwen Staci’s spine

[@meme__juice]

oof

[@williamskatespeare9461]

OH...SNAP!

[@dirtydeedsdirtcheep3007]

Too soon!

[@roby_1101]

Madden B oof

[@everyonesfavorite7560]

That’s fucked up man

[@Kjack49044]

Matpat: pretends video doesn't include Spiderverse for 15 minutes Also Matpat: puts Miles on thumbnail 🤪

[@quantv2976]

Kevin Jackson I was gonna lose it if he put Myles in the thumbnail and didn't mention him

[@spideyaction1474]

@@quantv2976 that will be Clickbait

[@TheRavenCoder]

To be fair, it was probably the editor for this video that made the thumbnail. Matpat hasn't edited his own videos in a while.

[@siritachi31]

Nothing like getting two mins to the end of the video to get that close to being clickbait

[@dannymartial7997]

Unironically, Spider Ham would win. He can pull a Thanos and drop a moon on his enemies, better yet, he’d pull the moon out of his pocket mid battle.

[@CricketsTavern]

His pockets that don’t even exist he is our god

[@alpharius2omegaboogaloo384]

Until Maguire tells him he’s trash.

[@MrKane-lu8eg]

@@CricketsTavern he has a hammer Spider verse

[@hughjazz8655]

Cartoon characters are soooo op

[@unlinedphoton7965]

@@alpharius2omegaboogaloo384 untill maguire puts some dirt in his eye

[@lordchonito]

Miles has an electro shock, so Andrews electric proof webs would be kinda useful there

[@user-it3pb5xi6p]

But if you think about it why would miles morales shock his web

[@user-it3pb5xi6p]

Unless he he is trapped like how he is by Peter Parker to the chair in into the spider verse it has only that use due to the electricity coming from his body instead of shooting it

[@mecen8]

⁠@@user-it3pb5xi6pIt could be a situation where Miles tries to shock Garfield’s Peter, but a quick webbing completely neutralizes his shock

[@Reign14forever]

“Just because i have spider sense doesn’t mean i have common sense” peter parker

[@mr.cube2125]

Love it

[@rzfszn]

...

[@zephyrash]

Lol

[@saoirse9169]

I don't know if Mattpat forgot or anything, but MILES ALSO USES ELECTRICITY

[@aureliuswirawan4502]

And he can be invisible

[@ewa1680]

But Tom has insta kill

[@Funkycactus537]

Ewa ? Yea but none of the spider men really mean to kill anyone

[@Sketchy_Dood]

Not really electricity is more of a sting

[@thevoyager7704]

So maybe the electricity proof webs are useful XD

[@sorensharp4377]

But you didn't judge Miles the same way that you judged the other three... You didn't rate his strength, webs, and agility. That's my main gripe but also the thing that literally everyone else is saying--- Why did you ignore Far From Home?

[@rockhamada294]

Soren Sharp he might not have seen it yet or the movie wasn’t out when he made the video

[@sorensharp4377]

You fools who say it was made before the movie came out: HE REFERENCES THE PETER TINGLE, SOMETHING THAT WAS ONLY IN FAR FROM HOME.

[@raawesome3851]

Because it is considered a spoiler, and since he doesn't have his suit on him in that movie

[@raawesome3851]

@@soloners he doesn't dodge drones, he just sees and knows where they are.

[@SmartassEyebrows]

@@raawesome3851 Not sure you fully understand what "dodging" means.

[@elemdoesart]

In No way Home Tom Holand really shows how powerful his spidey sense is, he literally moves while his soul is out of his body

[@thediamondknight1123]

True.

[@lesliejen6644]

And in far from home (spoilers) at the end of the movie, Tom Holland uses and depended on it as if his life needed it. He couldn't even see!

[@lex.is.ordinary]

He was also able to detect a personality shift with Norman before it even happened

[@Anonymous41726]

Apparently his theory is correct, in a confrontation against all the other spiderman, Miles would win

[@zaidiatoranimation3947]

Yea cause nwh proves that Tobeys spiderman is stronger than toms

[@dr.ninjake]

2 issues: A: the reason SP-DR got taken out is because it took fire for Noir B: Peter Tingle could theoretically counter invisibility, as he used it in the final confrontation with Mysterio

[@miguelcastillo3723]

So Tom is the winner That guy on the fairy was correct

[@babyyoshi3099]

@@miguelcastillo3723 I don't know, Toby's Spider Sense is a pretty major advantage.

[@kamwaty]

Honestly it still doesn't proof anything much. If the movie actually spend some time on those characters they advertised like crazy maybe(probably) we could figure out who is stronger I'm a easier way

[@justanotherweirdo11]

@@babyyoshi3099 They're both advantageous in different ways.

[@miguelcastillo3723]

@@babyyoshi3099 well let me think about it he was the one who exert any was stronger amount of force hue Diaz have a lot of webbing 576 to be correct Spider Sense fought through the illusions Not to mention Tom Holland went up against captain America vulture giant elemental monsters and thanos too

[@xdecatron2985]

Miles Morales: *basically sucker punches Peter B* MatPat: He's stronger than Toby *and* Tom!

[@SomeGuyXD65]

Miles is canonically established as weaker in the comics.

[@munchielitten5961]

Hes also weak in the movie ITSV cuz king pin was about to crack his skull and effectivly got beat by him in just 4 mins if the fight only won do to that zap of HEY was cool and funny but stupid stuff like that can't be a reliance if he couldnt use it the first before king pin broke into the train , sonehow he got in lol anyway i find miles c tier garbage its really just his two uther abillitys that saved his ars first shock accident second shock suddenly realizes need to help friends and keep a promise to his unlce and spidy third shock never happens cuz it sparked xD final shock random and yet ut worked like an ass pull

[@TheChaoticInsanity]

@@munchielitten5961 Not quite accurate. Miles proved he was stronger than Peter by doing something Peter failed. Peter DIED when the King Pin hit him with a full force double axe handle. Miles survived it, and had more than enough stamina to take out KP and save the multiverse. With Peter being a near clone of Peter B, Matt's conclusion makes sense.

[@Zacurafire]

@@SomeGuyXD65 Thats either a lie or misinformed. Miles won their first fight in Spider-men. His bioshock move is literally all he needs, and it wasn't even mentioned in this video

[@SomeGuyXD65]

@@Zacurafire He does have the ability of turning invisible and shocking people but it's already been established that he struggles with controlling it. He's also not as strong or smart as Peter, although an argument can be made that Miles is far faster than Peter. In the comics we see time and time again that Miles becomes a nervous mess in key moments which simply does not occur with someone as experienced as Peter. Mat cites their confrontation of the movie as evidence that Miles is a better fighter but leaves out the fact that Peter has been fighting for far longer than Miles has, not to mention that Peter in this universe is no longer a young and fit college student but an out of shape dad bod in his mid to late thirties. Regardless of who is your favorite spiderman, Toby has a better theme song than Miles which already sets him up as the best SpiderMan hands down.

[@WaleighWallace]

I feel like Miles had a little bit of plot armor in that final scene. Plus he wasn’t put through the rest of the categories like the others. It sounds a lot like Death Battle, where one feat that someone clearly didn’t do the physics on or threw in for a gag, just blows any other feats out of the water. Is Miles strong? Yes Do we have enough material to accurately judge his strength? No

[@jaydencastro1816]

Thank you

[@meechr898]

Waleigh the Scarfmeister I agree but even so miles venom shock and invisibility trump basic spider abilities by miles in my opinion

[@goat_sama8239]

He really didn't have any plot armour. Dude just use everything he learned across the movie to defeat Kingpin and earn his title as his universe's spiderman

[@biz7396]

Yeah but after king pin hit him once he stood there until miles got up if he didn’t it would’ve been over

[@jamescupidon1661]

You didn't watch the ultimate spiderman series then

[@renxybaluyot9822]

After seeing Miles go head to head with Miguel O'hara, and even escaping from the Spider Society. This theory is almost a canon event.

[@capmonkeyboy04]

Preach

[@redshiningpetals.x6867]

Not just miles but all the spiderman so yeah Canon event

[@Zyskr..]

the reason miles was winning during that, is because he was on the defense, so his spider sense could warn him when he was gonna get hit, while the other spidermen couldn't react fast enough

[@oda..]

​@@Zyskr..because he's just faster

[@Zyskr..]

@@oda.. it's plausible u believe what u want ig

[@jasonbell2008]

“It’s hard to imagine electricity playing a role here” Bruh. You’ve already mentioned TASER webs.

[@reigndoesthings]

Also Miles later in the vid

[@bigdaddyswagmoney]

@@reigndoesthings he more mentioned the invisibility rather than the bio electricity

[@dasneat3320]

True but that means that could means it could only happen between tom and Andrew and tazer webs clearly can conduct electricity just as well and not affect tom so its a stand still

[@artist0154]

what did you expect? that they cross webs like colliding bullets? his webs are non conductor, not his suit, what is he going to do? wrap himself on his own web?

[@electricpikachu3440]

Miles can go invis and bio electricity

[@Amy-yf9zc]

Mat: Taser web. Also Mat: i can't see how electro proof webbing could help in this situation.

[@galemisoki6320]

Tasers....hit the person.. Electric proof webs are not a person..... But if creative enough can be used as a shield but i doubt

[@metazoxan2]

I mean electric proof webbing only stops it from traveling through the web.

[@Error0101]

@@metazoxan2 Or the web shooter

[@sunnyp6982]

Copy

[@kamwaty]

Electro proof and taste webs aren't the same😐

[@geoff420]

In infinity war peter sensed that the guardians were coming even though the guardians couldn’t be heard by doctor strange and tony stark

[@333dae]

I think people mistake the FFH plot of Peter using his spider sense as him discovering it, when if you paid attention he already knows he has some sort of sixth sense but it hasn't been working properly since he blipped back.

[@amnathegrande]

Ooo good one 😂

[@tucosalamanca5818]

Again that doesn’t give him a better reaction time, but more of a tool for alertness

[@somenerdpng]

Cool, are these people using bots because everyone does realise, this is how normal fucking spidersense works lmfao, please stop being so fucking stupid

[@jedi_cat_l4976]

Mat: "I don't think having shock-proof webbing would be that important in a spider man battle" Tom Peter: I have a shock webbing type Miles: I literally have a shock ability

[@spider-man7867]

Miles isn't apart of this

[@matijasostojic4288]

Tom: I also have 1 billion other web types

[@Egg-vp4by]

@@matijasostojic4288 it wasn't counted tho are u dumb watch the video again

[@gamingnamehere1560]

@@spider-man7867 he is lol

[@Mona72498]

@@spider-man7867 did you even watch the video 😂😂

[@TheMadHatter248]

OBJECTION! Why is “Witty Banter with Villains” not a category?

[@lillimarcengill8777]

Mike Yao TRUS

[@joaquinleon4114]

You mean quips?

[@notBrennan19]

Very true

[@zampoloo]

Get out.

[@fqnto1]

@@zampoloo ?

[@This_is-a-handle]

MatPat in a nutshell: *Well yes, but actually no*

[@yizao9289]

But actually yes but actually no but actually yes but actually no but ITS JUST A THEORY A FILM THEORY AND CUT

[@goldendoodlz4555]

definitely

[@sandychen1381]

Yes

[@salamandermander925]

But yes

[@Pmf95k]

Electricity will probably not happen in the fight Miles: hold my spray can

[@stevenbobbybills]

Tom: Hold my Taser webs

[@stevenkarris9888]

@@stevenbobbybills i think miles got the strongest spider the least experience

[@jacobsalazar5181]

Miles made elatersty so useful he saved the fracking multi verse

[@Amber-v5g]

@@jacobsalazar5181 Which doesn’t really look hard because it happens EVERY FEW COMICS

[@Elmo_The_Frog]

After watching across the spider verse I can safely say that Lego Spider-Man is the real victor

[@dr.little7311]

Who would win? “Karen, activate Instant Kill.”

[@Fredlyy]

"Karen, take their kids"

[@trevenantlord988]

"Attempting to speak with manager as we speak, peter."

[@Havikolabee]

Karen: "Insta kill activated"

[@truepatrician4700]

I know it's a joke but spider sense basically nullifies that

[@savagewonton6986]

Karen, be Plankton’s wife

[@obiequinones832]

Matpat: *talks about spidersense* Also matpat: *uses miles invisibility as a reason he can beat the other spidermen*

[@KvngLeroy1]

It would work if miles has good enough control

[@firestarr5812]

faulty footwrk Nope, Spider Sense trumps invisibility. We know this because of Far From Home.

[@Goddess_Moros]

Well, spider sense depends on if they trust the person.

[@MrThwippy]

Firestarr 58 but miles also has spider sense plus invincibility plus being smaller faster and more agile as well as being more energized. The crazy thing about it is that Miles is by far the Strongest especially when you consider him with experience.

[@ruisurengai]

@@Goddess_Moros trust or not seen as a threat.

[@clockworkcthulhu8195]

Alright we've done all the research, analyzed their weapons and abilities. It's time for a DEATH BATTLE!

[@mittycommitspizzatime92]

Clockwork Cthulhu NO! NO GOD PLEASE NO! NO! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@crusaderdoomslayer7055]

No

[@arnulfocasco4804]

I WASNT A DEATH BATTLE NOW SO MUCH

[@buddybear1268]

yes

[@Astralopithicus]

No,I want cartoon fight club

[@angryscottishman9]

For some strange reason, nobody ever acknowledges the scene from the end of Spider-Man 2, where Peter holds up the giant metal wall, then proceeds to THROW IT over his head. I feel like that is a considerable feat of strength that just get's flat out ignored by everyone

[@sonicmcdonald5000]

I mean it wasn’t giant and it was just a wall and tiny to compared to other things

[@goosecooker6347]

Sam raimi’s spider man 2?

[@angryscottishman9]

@@goosecooker6347 yea

[@dominicsitto]

and tom holland holding a building above his head

[@cignux2735]

@@dominicsitto the feat that tobey did i spiderman 2 at the end is stronger than tom's feats the reason i say that is the youtuber crisis said that feat was city block+ level since the sun that doc ock made was pulling things from the city and from that close it would be insane

[@onlyautismic]

Miles talking to Peter: “Have you ever heard of the shoulder touch?”

[@oofmate911]

eY

[@Theepic750]

Wait but you didn't calculate anything for miles, how is that fair to assume he's better because of one off-guard encounter with Peter?

[@AdamAdver]

Yea

[@rizzioly358]

Not to mention spider sense senses threats, in that scene I doubt peter was thinking of miles as a threat, letting miles catch him off guard

[@cezanne7775]

he wasn't even a threat no doubt

[@Hybattt]

What was he going to do punch miles he didn’t even talk about webs spider sense is said to only work with villains

[@fat-tailrepublic5352]

Is that the ceo of racism I hear

[@mystexe]

but if miles does turn invisible, the Tom Holland spider man could still sense him because he could sense the invisible drones and cloaked mysterio in far from home

[@Zacurafire]

All the spider-men could sense him, but they would also be sensing the other spider-men attacking them. Miles could slip in through that

[@mitchellconner6928]

@@Zacurafire i mean, if tom could sense a veritable army of drones assaulting him, i think he could sense multiple spider-men/gwen/pig/bot.

[@meechr898]

xd Myst yea but venom shock is literally busted

[@enielsanchez8099]

Well it makes sense

[@presentbongo4932]

Yep

[@TimeBloxOffical]

Even though this theory is good in some parts there are errors. 1. With the web shooters Tom only used his normal web-slinging and gliding. Even with more options he does not use them. (Also, Tom's gliding did not look to be much faster than regular swinging, though correct me if I am wrong.) 2. With Tobey's train scene the train kept on accelerating past 80, with top speeds between a transportation train being 125-150mph most likely the train was going at least 100+. Also, the train was not just at one speed and was pulled to be slowed down, it was trying to also speed up. (Proof: We only got to see it at 80 but the bar clearly was rising past it toward the last frames.) 3. With Andrew saving the people from Electro you forgot to include the distance and reaction between him saving the people and dealing with the car. 4. Tom can fight with his eyes closed (proven from FFH final fight scene.) That makes Miles Morale's invisibility useless against him. Otherwise, I am pretty sure everything else can be backed up by what you said.

[@jetpackdino5703]

Spider-Man: "My Spidey sense is tingling" Doctor: "Sir, you have testicular cancer"

[@OverlordMMM]

No wonder why his Peter tingles.

[@lesliewolfe7643]

Lol

[@waldo754]

Lol

[@diamonddonutgamergirl1361]

Lol

[@catherinevo6060]

JetpackDino xD

[@RadicalCapitol]

Interesting.. but what about Peter dodging Mysterio's Drones in pure darkness for the Spidey-Sense Section?

[@oreoman5993]

He wrote this before it came out

[@devinator9582]

First off, I would replace Pure Darkness with illusions since that is what the drones do. Second off, Its better than Tobey's and Andrew's Spidersense with that feat alone.

[@javisbavis]

@@devinator9582 he is saying pure darkness because his eyes were closed

[@tylerball5996]

@@devinator9582 He means pure darkness because his eyes were closed the entire time so he wouldn't be tricked by the illusions

[@calebismehehe2194]

Not only was it just dark, but he closed his eyes, too.

[@Ptatoo]

"Karen activate instant kill!" Other spidermen: *WAIT THAT'S ILLEGAL*

[@shumue3429]

Spidey doesn't kill

[@ravnhaveland9594]

"Why? Tony made the first suite, my new one is just a lot of upgrades. Therefore: it is ok." (Milles while invisible) "And there the electronic is shutting down."

[@phobetohr]

@@ravnhaveland9594 u gonna tell me miles can break open spideys suit without him noticing even if he is invisible anyone can see that also karen would notice and say

[@hotduelist]

@@phobetohr his venom blast is electric

[@extinctgats]

Exactly what I was thinking. But if we're not using the suits I'd say Tom would still win because of what he's done in Infinity and Civil War. He took out Ant-Man and grabbed Cap's shield mid-air

[@Traivons_World]

It wasn't Peter B. Parker that had the same experiences. It was Peter Parker from Miles' universe.

[@Mewdo45]

both had thr same experience. Peter from miles universe was in reverse to the movies though. Like the scene where Marie jane kisses spiderman in the rain is mirrored

[@reedplaysgames]

In MatPats next video he should do a cross-fade of all the comments calling BS on this entire theory

[@coreytaylor447]

actually this is one of his more solid theories, I didnt spot many mistakes and most that people are pointing out are more misconceptions and misunderstanding of spiderman

[@raggy3187]

Key word theory

[@boihoi8512]

that's Berleezys job

[@clancy9774]

Did he include far from home movie no he didn't

[@RAarMason]

Would take too long

[@MichaelTaylor-td8ws]

Ok no matter what, we know that the one scientist who said "he has a bagel" is the best

[@Chiamy]

That joke like honestly reminds me of the Lego Ninjago movie XD idk the humor like fits in that movie

[@MichaelTaylor-td8ws]

@@Chiamy I don't think I watched that movie........ As long as I make people laugh I'm happy

[@kayleighm9634]

*It’s kinda clear here who would win: Drake Bell as animated Spider-Man. Duh.*

[@isaacdiakite6249]

Sadly, apart from strength you might be right.

[@CosmiKazie]

I’m sorry DRAKE BELL WAS SPIDER MAN?????

[@isaacdiakite6249]

@@CosmiKazie Yeah as Ultimate Spiderman on Disney XD channel.

[@Monnman]

Kayleigh Fabulous *sad Josh Keaton noises*

[@sasukesfan]

He can kick miles’ ass in a second with his time stopping power

[@FobyTox07]

Best part of no way home is when they acknowledge the fact Toby's webs are natural

[@LadyLightningstorm]

Did you take Far From Home into account in regards to the spider sense?

[@fatherdivvy1168]

No he didnt, most likely to avoid spoilers since the movie is barely a month old

[@ukiyo1371]

Exactly

[@joshmaddie4665]

Still, he shouldve just either put a spoiler warning or just wait a while, because his spider sense in far from home has gotten much much much better

[@doggo1179]

@@joshmaddie4665 you mean Peter tingle right?

[@snastehsketlen5852]

He did say “get your peters tingling”

[@OnyDeus]

MatPat: Tough to imagine electricity playing a role in a Spiderman vs Spiderman fight. Miles Morales: Hold my bagel.

[@cheesecakelasagna]

that's true love right there^

[@thebuddercweeper]

Peter Parker who has TASER WEBS: “am I a joke to you”

[@williamnader139]

What about the battle between mysterio and Tom Holland when he used his peter tingle to save his life

[@longboi13]

that was when he learned it perfectly to use the spider tingles

[@333dae]

Yeah he wasn't even opening his eyes in that scene, literally just using his spider sense to dodge bullets and take down the drones at the same time

[@rooban989]

Why are there so many spoilers in the comments

[@doodletoast4315]

_peter tingle_

[@basillo3805]

Miles won anyway

[@dazzlingdexter5060]

I hope they make a live action Miles Movie

[@Triangle_da_godzilla]

they are

[@vincentzhou824]

Spider-Man Battle Royale Tom Holland: *actives instant kill

[@geekymetalhead5112]

Spiderman: *Wait...that's illegal*

[@TainyaGaming]

Wait... Thats not his powers thats a basically just his own iron man suit

[@bingbong7912]

Montana The Kryptsaiyan the rules said it was their normal suit, and that suit is tom hollands normal suit

[@israelcruz9444]

@@TainyaGaming But MatPat established that all of Tom Hollands web combos are included. And the instant kill mode is available in his basic suit along side with the rest of the combos as a scene in Homecoming shows the suit activating instakill mode, but Peter deactivating it. Thus instakill mode is included. (or should be at least)

[@hamza-chaudhry]

You said that electricity wouldn't be important in a Spider-Man Battle Royale, but surely it would if you're counting Miles Morales as he has electrical powers

[@meggamatty]

Hamza Chaudhry he said on screen only but he gave a character more experience for some reason.

[@lingokingo2079]

But he didn't mention his electrical powers he mentioned his invisibility so if he did miles would have had a BIGGER chance at winning

[@gonk3551]

plus tom hollands electro webs

[@cobyonekinobi7406]

And toms tazer webs

[@wingscancer]

Coby Hulme he also has EIDITH

[@awesomecat42]

And he didn't even mention Mile's venom strike, which knocked PBP out COLD when they first met.

[@stick3189]

awesomecat42 true

[@xavi5876]

And he didn’t mention the shoulder touch...

[@stick3189]

Hey

[@theamazingj7007]

Pbp was off guard in that scene so I would say it's unfair to use that is a way to scale

[@dewaunwarren1]

@@xavi5876 *touches shoulder* hey

[@swirlheartytv7223]

with no way home and infinity war, we know tom holland’s sense is more of his head telling him to move or that theres something dangerous near. in infinity war, the reason he was the most scared while blipping was because his head was screaming at him that there was danger, but peter didn’t know what it was and how to stop it.

[@couchgod9574]

Matpat: The "Peter tingle" isn't very useful for Tom Holland Far From Home: I'm 'bout to end this whole mans career

[@Dashielline]

That's what bugged me the entire episode xD

[@Sizzlinpapaya1014]

Yea, this bugged me too. The entire climax of the movie is him using his sense to dodge things.

[@ImAfemaleNoob2]

Yeah that bugged me too

[@karolchruzik1919]

Oh please, he can fight blindfolded. That doesn't really scale up to 260 ultra instinct.

[@Jorge-dh1hp]

It’s impressive but not as impressive as the other’s

[@penndraigh]

Miles literally caught Peter off guard. Doesn't mean he was going toe-to-toe and won. And if you're saying "then why didn't Peter's spider-sense go off!" uh, because it recognizes Miles as an ally.

[@Levi_52_336]

Miles didn't fight Peter, he just suprised him. *Mat Pat - Sounds like he won that fight*

[@wonderrofl]

Exactly. Same with the Doc Oc analysis. Miles got the ambush on Doc Oc. Peter B Parker wasn't even trying to fight Doc Oc either. He was trying to install the goober.

[@spideygamer8896]

he also mixed up peter b parker with the peter from miles universe

[@ZeusEBoy]

On your side, he also said spider Gwen didn’t beat Peter in into the spiderverse which I would argue she definitely did, but on his side, I’d say miles got the ambush because of his camouflage power so it should count cause it wasn’t a surprise based win it was an ability win. And plus Miles Morales is canonically stronger than peter Parker.

[@raawesome3851]

Well, he was able to not only beat doc oc, but he was also able to install the goober. He still beats them in overall natural skillsets, since he turned invisible and summoned electricity at will

[@WadetheBadger]

@@ZeusEBoy Not true, at least if you are going with canon, meaning the original aka, Comic spidey. Both Spidey and Spidey 2099 are physically stronger and faster than Miles. Miles has more powers but canonly is not quite as strong or fast. However, he is stronger than the Ultimate Spidey which is the universe Miles is from, but the 616 (Original) Spidey is stronger than Ultimate spidey by quite a bit. Which is ironic, because Ultimate Spidey's villains are almost all stronger than their 616 versions. It is weird, and comics are weird. Note, none of this reflects on the movies variations, just the canon (Originals) for the characters.

[@Sebastian62608]

Tom definitely takes Spider Sense now, he’s the only one to sense that Norman was Goblin.

[@darkmega710]

He sensed that something bad was about to happen and honostly imo he is still the worst in terms of spider sense because he is the only one to get that type of scene out of all the spider-men, I would also say that NWH shows that Tobey is stronger than Tom since he stops Tom from impailing Norman

[@Sebastian62608]

@@darkmega710 Him being the only one to get that type of scene just proves it further. He’s the only one to be able to just sense that Norman was off. He also has that scene in Far From Home.

[@edcr92]

Miles defeating Peter B Parker was a “goober”. A goober that establishes Miles is ready to complete the plot.

[@xTriton_]

*MatPat:* Miles is the strongest Spider Man. *Bully Maguire:* I'm gonna put some dirt in your eye.

[@thelonelysuntzu4818]

Underrated comment

[@jasonknight3796]

@@thelonelysuntzu4818 yes

[@Thelittledevilonyourshoulder]

But he said no symbiote suit

[@Thelittledevilonyourshoulder]

And also miles have fire abilities

[@AA_Gaming04]

True

[@creativegaming412]

How you forget about Tom Holland Using ONLY his Peter tingle in the final scene of Far from home vs Mysterio ???!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@davethetank9248]

I was waiting for him to mention the Mysterio fight but he never did

[@Cryothia]

He did say that all the cinematic Spidey Senses are sporadic at best, INCLUDING Tom’s

[@Boxman487]

I was thinking that

[@KaylaBarrios]

I was waiting for that too

[@kngdrzp]

Because he can’t control it FFH screwed it up and it’s spotty with his character

[@official_spreab5814]

You should definitely do a theory on Across the Spider-Verse since it just came out!

[@bincherito]

Matpat: talks about spider sense Also matpat: doesn’t mention any of the spider sense in far from home where peter ACTUALLY LEARNS how to use it

[@egokkik2651]

bruh ik. He barely used any of the things we saw in Far From Home.

[@hamzhaltarb5330]

I swear

[@Typhoonis88]

It almost like this script was written before seeing far from home ....

[@eliraeclipse2435]

Ikr! I was screaming the whole time about that

[@Anoronix]

I was literally scrolling down looking for this comment 😂. And yes I know he scripts his videos and this script was written before obviously Spider-Man far from home lol.

[@Huge_Homer]

Math teacher: Today we’re gonna learn about the transitive property of equality, Me: C’mon we’re never gonna use this in our real life. MatPat: Hold my beer.

[@christopheredwards9904]

In case you didn't know it would be a DiEt CoKe. First, he has a child, so he wouldn't drink while he is STILL a child because he knows what that crap can do (based on the GoT video he did about the Lannister's ancester of confort, WiNe.) and on top of that he never took a sip in his life of any alcohol (I think, anyway) and on top of that, guess who's sleeping on the couch when he arrives late at night after hitting the bar HARD with Austin and the editors, leaving StephPat with BabyPat all day? you guessed it, AUSTIN! As always. (lol I'm joking it would be Matpat)

[@Stevens_DoesThings]

LemonJuice I learned more in this episode more than I ever had in a single math lesson.

[@wedoaliltrollin2978]

More like hold my theories

[@Entity-ls7wn]

DIET COKE

[@fischaventine8313]

No “hold his COKE”

[@cemo475]

I don't think it's fair to base the win off of a single fight scene rather than fun miles through the rubric like the other contestants

[@longshot9058]

Please an updated version since we saw a more in depth version of how Tom’s Spider sense works in No Way Home and a couple more important things.

[@Amber-v5g]

Like factoring Miles properly

[@darthvader5514]

Instant kill mode: I'm about to end this man's whole career.

[@LoganoPiano]

Darth Vader And this mans life

[@nolimitscoasterguy4813]

Darth Vader is right if this was a fight to the DEATH Tom would win with him saying Edith activate instant kill

[@thedoctorfez1865]

Well, if this was a fight to the Death and if wearing other suits/accessories is allowed, then Tom would just say to Edith to Nuke all the other Spider-Men but if no accessories, then Tom just has to put on the Iron Spider Suit and activate Instant Kill.

[@Oreyee]

@@nolimitscoasterguy4813 except didn't they say that suits weren't going to be a factor? If we're pulling in stuff invented by other people in your franchise, then couldn't Andrew Garfield win by gassing everyone with Lizard toxin or something?

[@coryhooper8895]

i think that would be classified as part of the iron spider suit, which was established wouldnt be accounted for in this (as lets face it, tom hollands regular suit is so outfitted by stark, to have any of the other tech would make it far too easy)

[@justinpoweel4197]

You Didn’t Judge Any Of The Parkers On Intellect, In A Head To Head Fight This Would Matter In Some Capacity.

[@princezuko9430]

Gaddix Garfield wins easily

[@jacksonroy8720]

@@princezuko9430 true, then it's Holland, then it's Toby, then miles

[@awesomesharkhand1876]

@@princezuko9430 The dude had to watch youtube videos on batteries, he had to watch things that kids learn in 4th grade.

[@tylerwilson1024]

Tom Holland is the smartest one

[@jamichaeldowden2514]

@@tylerwilson1024 hi

[@ehabtds]

Did u consider Spiderman Far from home Peter Tingle? When he closed his eyes and eliminated all the drones using his Peter Tingle only?

[@camerongrower5246]

no. no he didn't lmao

[@trashyfortnitecontentcreat9822]

He even talked about the Peter tingle, and that's only in FFH

[@CJ-ty4ml]

@@trashyfortnitecontentcreat9822 yeah but not that scene

[@Vandheleister]

Please just call it Spider Sense because somehow it's less cringey than that

[@majcry4188]

Spoiler alert

[@notWal7]

I would love to see a new version of this video with certain characters from Spider Man: Across the Spiderverse considering how overpowered certain individuals are in that movie

[@RenTran1]

How I imagined the fight: Miles: I have my Venom Blast. Tom: I have instant kill. Tobey: I have the symbiote. Andrew: Okay, I'm dead

[@blitz7m762]

Ren Tran haha yes

[@deathknight1239]

And Tobey wins.

[@TheTanglyHen1026]

I mean he didn’t have the concrete proof to win the spider sense but I’d argue that TASM Spider-Man had the best spider sense

[@goldenhd9656]

Stfu

[@dmod3350]

Yeah

[@comic-guin528]

Matpat. Buddy. "Tom's Peter does nothing of note with his spider sense" Did you see Far From Home?

[@raawesome3851]

Yeah, but it didn't make him able to, say, predict movements, or see a few seconds in the future, like some iterations of the spider sense have, and it definitely won't stop electricity, especially since his power seems inconsistent. Even at the end, he only is able to do it for a few seconds at best.

[@TheRedwater357]

​@@raawesome3851 No, it just made him able to literally avoid things he couldn't see or hear.

[@mohammadmurie]

@@raawesome3851 both Tom and Andrew have electro webs so they can also electrocute Miles

[@lifeofentropy]

@@mohammadmurie Andrew doesnt have electro webs, he has electro proof webs. So he wont fry is web shoots if he gets hit with electricity

[@Monnman]

Ra awesome every single Spider-Man’s spider sense is somewhat inconsistent

[@sionam.3066]

so are we going to ignore the cool as heck peter tingle/drone scene from far from home?? 😂😂

[@sionam.3066]

or instant kill mode??

[@Leagueminer-ve6iv]

He still is just dodging gunfire, like the other Spiderman already do on a regular basis

[@cosmicchaos3013]

EXACTLY THANK YOU

[@giggityking6505]

Maybe he should do a theory on how much Luffy's bounty is worth in U.S. dollars

[@paleoleft]

@@Leagueminer-ve6iv from an invisible target

[@superjumpbros64]

Tobey: I missed the part where that's my problem

[@halex107]

MatPat: references far from home with the tingle joke also MatPat: Doesn't acknowledge the final fight with Mysterio where Holland literally tingles his way to victory.

[@r3ys]

Halex sixth senseeeee

[@ADAJ342]

That's good an all but the tingle helped him "see" Past Mysterios illusion. not to improve his reaction speed

[@justko1654]

Adrián Alonso the sense helped Peter stop Mysterio from shooting him in the head at point blank in the final scene

[@r3ys]

Ragged holy moly where the only two people who actually watched it

[@ADAJ342]

@@wmmrt9858, well yes, that's What I said.

[@AntonioHernandez-tj6er]

Wait...Matpat you didn't include the spiderman far from home scene with spiderman using his spider senses to beat Mysterio

[@spookywafflecat5508]

Antonio Hernandez or the scene in civil war

[@rtdye3726]

Idk if hes seen it so he didn't include it

[@johndumas3738]

rtdye he included it as a movie at the beginning of the video so he knows it exists

[@heenasingh578]

Dude it is not out on blu-ray!!!

[@jeremyliang1110]

yea

[@tastyroadkill6516]

Miles got a way easier chance at winning this competition because he didn’t have to go through all the categories. MatPat just said that he did really good in one battle and boom he wins. Not saying he wouldn’t win if he was tested in all the categories but you never know.

[@AeonTH]

Yeah, that's what ruined this video for me. It was all hype until he threw the rules out the window for Miles. e_e

[@shamonejackson2770]

To be fair to mat he used powerscaling saying the Peter B and Tobey are the same. But yeah Miles was an asspull. (opps i said bad word)

[@thinkingoutloud9126]

Exactly! If it had been a competition from the beginning of all four Tom and Toby would likely not have come out as tied either. My guess would be: Strength, web, agility Tom: 4, 4, 3 = 11 Toby: 3, 2, 2 = 7 Andrew: 1, 1, 1 = 3 Miles: 2, 3, 4 = 9

[@AndrewCheshire]

Interesting that you pulled in another contender at the end and declared him the winner without saying anything about his strength, webs, or agility and Spider-Sense.

[@lennykuz3994]

They webs would be the same cause miles got his shooters from aunt may, but the other things idk 🤷‍♂️

[@Anna-tm8po]

He did. He just didn't show it in the video

[@Anna-tm8po]

Well I don't think adding another 10minutes just to examine one more Spiderman would be smart. More editing. More time to watch. But really i dont think it's that bad we trust him

[@lordlofty9689]

@@Anna-tm8po we?

[@prska]

​@@Anna-tm8powe don't, and miles isn't nowhere near peter parker in terms of strength, speed and spidersense

[@christianfont5717]

You say Peter B. Parker is Toby McGuire Spider-Man, but Peter B. Parker doesn’t produce his web, he has web shooter gadgets

[@zayden1569]

Yes but he later continues to say that he is used as a stand in for Maguire's Spider-Man

[@katara_grayson]

Chris Font yeah. Ive been seeing theorys that Tom hollands peter is the same as peter b parker

[@firstname697]

He said that it isn't the exact same as the Tobey Spiderman

[@yoshikagekira5196]

Peter B Parker, went threw a nasty divorce, and we see that Toby's wedding ability is affected by his emotions in Spider-Man 2, maybe that's why.

[@IzzuZiq]

While Peter B does use mechanical webshooters like Tom's, the webs are at least as powerful assuming he did the train stopping thing Tobey and RIPeter did

[@spyke7311]

Matpat: Tom Holland is not the winner! Tom Holland’s Spiderman: *instant kill mode activated* Spiderman 2099: you are dead to me

[@sauasy_6220]

Wouldn't the mcu spiderman be able to see him though, like when he is fighting mysterio and can see when the drones are blocking his sight.

[@Anarch023]

but wasn't that because of his spider-scenesns, wouldn't that apply to any spiderman then

[@kevind3974]

Correct but only if really concentrating because his spider sense is just so bad

[@sebastianianmagallanes3997]

To be honest though, Miles Morales is overpowered. Not that it's a bad thing, but he's just way too powerful for all three. I would say Tom's, because he's cool.

[@obaso.]

Kevin d it’s not bad it just doesn’t work around people he trusts or venom

[@kintsuki99]

All spidermans would be able to "see" Myles, for two reasons: Spidersense as normal and when two spidermans are close to one another their spidersense warn them that the other spider is there.

[@fire-blade354]

The fact Across The Spider-Verse basically confirmed this theory

[@NotAnEldritchHorror]

Matpat: Tom Holland's Spiderman has stun-webs, shock-webs ect. Literally a second after Matpat: I don't know if electricity proofing will have any impact in a spiderman v spiderman battle.

[@caseycoventry1003]

Lol so true

[@trans-ruffboi4605]

tbh I thought that was just foreshadowing for miles

[@stalebananas2377]

Spoilers warning (Far from home) In far from home Spider-Man reacts to mysterio trying to shoot him while he’s invisible to peter so peter only had his spidersense to go off of (redo the agility)

[@KookiesNolly]

yeah, it's baffling to me how he would discuss Tom's Spiderman's Spider sense without talking about the movie where he actually learns to use it and uses it the most.

[@pluckee]

I mean that's kinda the same as Tobeys, in SM1 his spider sense gives him a good understanding of where the danger is coming from and what his surroundings are like.

[@MrCanadianbaconeh]

i mean that scene doesnt add much, its fairly comparable to when theres a glider coming to kill tobey. If youre saying that hes dodging the bullet, 1 no hes dodging the person aiming the bullet.

[@drunkendog13]

Canadianbacon eh except he’s not dodging the person aiming it because he can’t see the person aiming it

[@themeaning2587]

@@drunkendog13 so then we know that it doesn't fall under reaction time. He can't react to what hasn't happened. He might win in phycic abilities thought

[@faresm24]

In Far From Home, Tom's Peter literally dodges hundreds of bullets while fighting a dozen drones *with his eyes closed* thanks to his Spider-sense

[@bottlewipe]

Peter tingle*

[@Big_Danny_Cheese]

@@bottlewipe it's the same thing, just a different name

[@Big_Danny_Cheese]

But can Tom do the Shoulder Touch?

[@shlatekkin]

Chammangon TRIGGERED ......Hey..

[@emjackson81989]

Why do so many people forget Tobey's Spider-Man also dodged bullets? That's a classic Spidey move. They would still likely be tied in this case.

[@somecoolguy12]

I felt anger when you called the far from home suit the "stealth" suit and not the "night monkey" suit

[@krishchandel4988]

miles morales because he can hug his parents edit: also tom holland’s franchise isn’t over but everyone else’s is

[@mrfirebass]

miles morales is getting a second film

[@Kishimyu]

I know it's not on film but this iteration of Miles also has a continuation in the comic books.

[@koby5826]

lmfao

[@masknzgamer]

Tom Holland is worst Spiderman. Garfield first movie wasn't bad sooo

[@numbs8825]

I roasted the Peter Parker’s

[@ryansmith1612]

In captain America civil war. Tom Hollands spider Man doged a peice of metal the winter solider threw at him without Tom seeing it.

[@sunwukong32]

That piece of metal you're referring to is more commonly known as _a car._

[@zach3861]

He heard a sound and ducked... Like a normal person would.

[@ryansmith1612]

@@zach3861 there way no sound it was a subtle way to show his spidy sense without making it a big deal

[@jasonmarshall6358]

@@sunwukong32 That car you're referring to was thrown by Scarlet Witch. And Peter was facing her. Does Bucky look strong enough to throw a car?😒

[@ryansmith1612]

Was*

[@ReverendPriest]

Best one is Peter Porker because of John Mulaney.

[@Recabilly]

I can't believe I didn't realize that was John Mulaney!

[@floofersnoofer]

Hell yeah.

[@ICoolziesou8cr]

Bro was right even in across the spiderverse honestly it’s insane to look at it now

[@kayleighm9634]

When the time comes near, I need you to theorize on Doctor Strange: Multiverse of Madness. You’ll probably get it wrong but it’s worth a shot

[@yeahkeen2905]

Kayleigh Fabulous is that the new Doctor Strange movie? I didn’t know the name was revealed.

[@ohyeahitsbigbraintime9878]

@@yeahkeen2905 all phase 4 movies were revealed

[@ohyeahitsbigbraintime9878]

Yes YES *YES* AND MORE YEEESSS

[@KodieRussell]

about what? what exactly about it do you want a theory on?

[@shadowwolfwarrior2914]

Actually, Marvel announced the second Dr. Strange is supposed to be it`s first "horror" movie. I'm like "ówò??"

[@tanihehe]

In short: *Andrew Garfield is sad now.*

[@themynahswithinternetaccess]

sad Andrew Garfield noises intensifies

[@appal5052]

Tanisha Shriyan We’ll give him best web slinging just to be nice. lol jk but for real his swinging style is the best

[@kendellstewart2090]

He always was the worst Spiderman

[@AliKandirr]

He has great hair tho...

[@MasterGX]

You kind of forgot about the final showdown between Tom Holland and Mysterio's drones, and also reacted to Mysterio shooting him from behind him.

[@freewyvern707]

I can't quite remember the last scene, and i guess the reason he didn't include was th fact it isn't on disc yet. Saying the gun gun was a Glock 19(a common pistol) and the distance was 5m. It would of taken 0.005333 seconds(or 1/1875 of a second) to travel making his reaction time 7.2x greater thsn Tobi's

[@dastvan8002]

So with that evidence that would mean that the final tally is #1 Miles Morales #2 Tom Holland #3 Tobey Maguire #4 Andrew Garfield #5 The cameo spider-people

[@Jose-dh1xz]

He didn't dodge a bullet, he moved the gun away from his head.

[@MrThwippy]

Free I don't even remember Beck pulling the trigger

[@leon1201]

@@freewyvern707 the distance was arms length Beacuse tom holland was able to lift the pistol above his head

[@sweetladygenevieve]

As someone from the future who saw Miles 1v1000+ all the spiderman I feel like this is canon

[@marvellover6695]

Wait what about Tom Holland's peter tingle in far from home

[@lka1l]

John Doe before

[@christiandecke5180]

That's what I was thinking, he was able to dodge a bullet at point blank from his side without being able to see where it was coming from in his line of sight, even if it wasn't cloaked.

[@gamingking5]

@@christiandecke5180 He mentioned that all three of them could dodge bullets, and just because he couldn't see it, doesn't mean he couldn't sense it coming from hearing Mysterio or feeling vibrations from him moving.

[@dJ-jt9iy]

@@christiandecke5180 Plus he was completely focused on the illusion. So he reacted instantly.

[@diegog1853]

@@christiandecke5180 Do you think tobey "saw" that fly behind him using his own eyes? Invisibility is irrelevant for the spider sense

[@kahjunn9427]

We need 3 more categories -Scream -Humor -Pizza time Edit: people keep on talking about dance, so I made this edit so that people would shut up about it

[@Jake-nh5th]

Nice

[@yas4702]

Tobey has the best scream MaRy JaNe!!!!!!!!!

[@shamonejackson2770]

Tobey Wins NO DIFFICUTLTY

[@franklybrandy3956]

Teenage mutant ninja turtles.

[@baskhemjingmutlyngdohmarsh925]

Toby has Pizza Time. Win

[@otuskigaming6764]

MatPat my good sir. You forgetting about Tom beating Beck while he was invisible? TskTsk, you've been slacking.

[@gandalfderboss6783]

Peter tingle

[@megas957]

If we're talking about that from the movie, I'd have to agree that its due to lack of usable footage. But most spideys have the ability to fight without needing to see thanks to the spider sense

[@bencebertok9458]

@Haku infinite Well in my opinion none of the other spider-mans could've done the feat of far from home, when he had to guess the exact position of the drones to beat them while evading their bullets without any visual or auditory input. It's great other spides have good reacting time, but if they can't even see the bullets flying their way... then what? Can we be so sure that they can handle it?

[@everyonesfavorite7560]

gandalfderboss FUCK YOU

[@somenerdpng]

Holy shit these people are actually botting for likes, they have to there no way people are this retarded and don't understand spidersense.

[@Cheerleader9501]

I think MatPats next video should be "Film Theory: How many times can I complement Andrew Garfield's hair?"

[@godfreyyu8132]

It’s unfair that you compared Miles with Peter without using the three comparison points you started with

[@SH3RIFFO]

Exactly!

[@phlpcockrell]

"Miles tripped peter once and stole something off him when his guard was down, therefore miles is stronger, faster, and would totally win in a fight" sounds legit.

[@gadg3tguy05]

That’s what I was thinking-

[@cogwheel6076]

agreed

[@smiilez6284]

Came looking for this

[@MojoMicah]

I'd hardly say Miles bested Peter in a head to head "confrontation". Wasn't a battle of wills, nor did either intend on hurting the other. Wasn't even an argument either, just a difference of opinion.

[@bluez1892]

It was an argument then

[@xdecatron2985]

Jeff Dallo I disagree. But we don't have to argue about it. ;)

[@bluez1892]

@@xdecatron2985 No I mean if they were talking abojt their differences in opinion then its an argument. Just saying ;)

[@harbingeroflight4537]

Everyone talking about Tom Holland dodging bullets in darkness, smh Y'all really forgetting about Spiderham's gravity and space defying hammer Edit: Yo how'd I get over 1k likes

[@thatoneguyontheinternet9765]

perfect

[@Agent_3141]

*YES*

[@harbingeroflight4537]

Why launch a bunch of bullets, when you can cover a stupidly large surface area with a hammer

[@luckylittleloser4141]

@Radicool I understand where your coming from...but it'll fit in your pocket :D

[@nunyabuisness3587]

Double Peace true

[@RongDMemer]

Pretty sure it depend on plot armor or just how strong do the director wants them to be

[@Tomago9387]

17:07 You said it balanced out then you made Miles the winner which one is it? You never even tested his webbing strength

[@PeteyOfficial]

Sicarius Not saying I agree with Matpat but just saying that the webbing was made by Aunt May in Mile’s universe, and his universe had a Spiderman that is basically the same as Original Spider-Man. That aunt may probably knew what Mile’s universe’s Peter put in the web shooters. So I would say there around equal.

[@corrosive1376]

He said the inexperience and his old age balanced out. Not their overall strength (not using strength literally here)

[@PeteyOfficial]

Shadow blade I’m talking about how the web shooters compare.

[@iandean6316]

He doesn't even have his own webbing.The one he uses is made by a non scientist aunt

[@KoPLeaderKiactu]

@@iandean6316 Which you have to factor in was able to shoot to the top of a skyscraper and pull him up.

[@samuelhellewell2880]

My one issue with miles winning is that, although it’s clear that his reactionary time is better then them, he hasn’t shown as much in the strength or webbing category

[@theanarchyrulezshow6169]

Just wait until people see Miles' venom powers. (the electricity powers)

[@booty-jigglebuttcheeks4590]

@@theanarchyrulezshow6169 mat pat said he wasn’t gonna count electric powers

[@hyrule5975]

@@booty-jigglebuttcheeks4590 then it’s not a very fair theory then is it

[@booty-jigglebuttcheeks4590]

@@hyrule5975 is that a threat?

[@skippy3607]

Bruh miles swings a whole entire building so shut up fam

[@SilverDOMO192837]

We haven't seen Miles exert large amounts of strength, or fighting experience. I don't think you'd be able to call him the winner

[@Laki2006]

exactly, he's weaker than Peter B Parker, has barely any experience, he appears to only have one sort of web mode and he's not that fast either, he got the jump on Peter B, so?

[@mohammadmurie]

There is a strength feat for Miles but it proves he is the weakest as Miles got into a grapple with King Pin and lost

[@Laki2006]

@@mohammadmurie yeah he only wins with a few good sucker punches and swinging around him and using his venom blast

[@nessus3251]

Well miles took the pounding from kingpin that killed peter

[@swazisolomon5168]

Give our people something man c'mon