Film Theory: The R-Rated Avengers Are COMING!

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Theorists, the Netflix Marvel series have officially invaded Disney+ and Marvel has confirmed that Deadpool 3 will be part of the MCU and still be rated R. Now that Moon Knight premiered and Disney+ instigated a parental control system, we can officially say things are changing. Is this the beginning of a more mature MCU? Let's dive in!
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Writers: Matthew Patrick and Bob Chipman
Editors: Danial "BanditRants" Keristoufi and Forrest Lee
Assistant Editor: Caitie Turner (Caiterpillart)
Sound Editor: Yosi Berman
#Marvel #Avengers #MoonKnight #Deadpool #Blade #WandaVision #Disney #MultiverseOfMadness #DrStrange #Theory #FilmTheory #Matpat #Trailer

[@SC-hk6bs]

“The R-rated Avengers, but that won’t be what they’re called.” My brain: _…Revengers?_

[@AMRITZ]

There already is one

[@mrextrt_5546]

@@AMRITZ the Filipino avenger one?

[@Thefi5thdnb]

Revengers - endless tussle

[@user-gn5jt5gf2x]

The R-vengers

[@sheshanks6035]

Then you add a p to find Tony stark dead 🥲🌝

[@fycat]

This is how I felt about the second Venom film. I think the PG-13 rating is what killed it. Almost anything big happened off-screen because Carnage is wayyyyy too dark for a PG-13 film

[@everythinggirly916]

I haven't seen the movie but I though it had a horror tag. I'm surprised that they rated something like that PG-13.

[@Crazy_Schizo]

@ich🅥 fake, terrible scam

[@Gattsu_the_struggler]

PG-13 as well as bad pacing and writing

[@SayWhat6187]

But the Venomverse isn't part of the MCU even. It was just unnecessary.

[@everythingdibs344]

I honestly liked it for what it was because they realized the best parts of the first movie and focused on that, but I will say it was too short.

[@Fernful]

To be honest I just watched Multiverse of Madness in cinemas (literally a few hours ago as it released in the uk today) and it was WAY darker than I thought it would be. Absolutely fantastic 10/10 movie but just did not expect it to be that dark

[@chazerrrr]

The director does a lot of horror movies, look him up if you liked the style. Made the movie way better than I expected.

[@MonsterHunterBoi]

What type of dark? Scary or actual dark ess

[@Fernful]

@@MonsterHunterBoi The scary kind. Not too scary though just q scary kinda vibe if it makes sense

[@Dommbuscus]

I'd say it was dark*er* than MCU movies, but not that dark in general. Some pretty cool kills though. I'd give the movie a 7/10, personally

[@Splashmaster97]

"What mouth?"

[@epRivera]

After watching the new multiverse of madness movie, we are DEFINITELY close. It's gonna happen

[@Iliadic]

Well Sam Raimi was the one directing MoM.

[@CookieXD240]

@@Iliadic true

[@follower8815]

I don’t get why everyone talks about multiverse of madness. It wasn’t even scary 😂. Or that dark tbh

[@jlupus8804]

That movie was mostly pg

[@slugmaballs1444]

@@follower8815 i dont get it either everyone say it was dark and scary and i wonder what are their age when they say that

[@unknownvariable9239]

With the darker themes of Moon Knight and Multiverse of Madness, I wouldn’t be surprised if Marvel leans into some R rated stuff with Deadpool and future grim storylines like Secret Wars

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

Disney would nerf it somehow

[@Rojob]

You havent seen the themes of either of the things youve saud

[@CT-55555.]

It's never going to happen Disney's too scared to do that

[@algorithmicalychallenged.291]

Nothing like failing at what made them successful to be progressively worse.

[@algorithmicalychallenged.291]

@@CT-55555. scared? There to smart to hurt there brand.

[@Seele-2015]

After watching doctor strange I think you are right

[@realchezboi]

Yes, this movie is definitely way more unhinged compared to an MCU film.

[@dante898]

I know you’ve done a Bee Movie theory before but, hear me out, I think a theory estimating how many bees would actually be needed to hold and fly a plane would be very interesting to watch. (Or if it’s even possible for any amount of bees to do so)

[@catholiccontriversy]

Well by all known laws of aviation, bees should not be able to fly at all let alone carry a plane, but because bees don't care about the law they can fly whatever they want, even a coconut if they so desired.

[@sionsmedia8249]

They might make a few tv series R-rated, as those are a smaller cost gamble if they flop. But I doubt that Disney would allow for a R-rated full Marvel film with around $200 million budget.

[@algorithmicalychallenged.291]

It would really hurt there brand.

[@sohumchatterjee9]

Deadpool 3 is R rated, so uh no they're doing it already

[@damonlam9145]

The exception is probably deadpool

[@damonlam9145]

@@sohumchatterjee9 yes but since Marvel is own by Disney I doubt they will make that many and even if they do Disney won't bother to put their brand name on it.

[@sohumchatterjee9]

@@damonlam9145 hope Blade is R too

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

If the MCU switches its focus to pleasing the mature audience, it's going to definitely attract an even larger audience. The younger audience will always find a way to watch the mature movies either way.

[@drewpamon]

Traditionally pg-13 movies make way more money than R

[@silverprimus321boi9]

@@drewpamon theatres seem to be slowly transitioning to streaming, so idk man

[@MindlessTube]

All the fans that were teenagers of the superhero movies are adults now anyways

[@Rockmaster867]

Kids who watched ironman 1 whennit came out are adults now.

[@bear-wq8uu]

tru

[@TheMimicFrom2019]

Well, now I saw Doctor Strange 2 movie, Matpat is right all along.

[@chane11ee7]

Same I was so shocked that he predicted right after watching it in the cinemas

[@sergiodavila2397]

[SPOILER ALERT FOR DR STRANGE 2] They really showed maturity and more of a gorey vibe in the movie that remind me of invincibles with Wanda killing the whole Illuminati. I've always preferred DC over marvel in everything except movies Bc they're always darker and mature and I love the route they're taking now

[@epRivera]

Trident dude's death REALLY showed the direction Marvel is going in

[@lovemusic6218]

@@epRivera exactly. I jumped in theaters when I watched his death. I was like jumping at every death especially Tridents.

[@corneliastreet2491]

Slicing Peggy in half with her own shield? Iconic. Wish I could have seen it,

[@horsemindinghisowndamnbusi7719]

they're literally maturing the level on content in movies at the same rate that their audience is maturing, ingenious move actually

[@BigTbrodoi]

not really just common sense tbh

[@jumbotron2633]

There's a thing called young fans

[@SOSOLRAK]

It’s not… get off your knee pads

[@sololeveling7390]

@@jumbotron2633 It doesn't mean they'll suddenly stop making pg 13 stuff. It's not like adults just watch r rated movies

[@Jack-rj4kd]

That’s just what the comics did, and many other series, nothing new there

[@Lil-Dragon]

I hope matpat is right. Especially as I'm terrified Daredevil will be lowered in rating when he pops up again.

[@furydozer344]

3 bots in a row this is ridiculous

[@addy2812]

@@furydozer344 it's 4 now 🤣🙄😒

[@dragoonmaster4133]

I wish that was the case. 😢

[@madnessarcade7447]

Only when he crossed over not in his own content

[@benito23453]

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[@agent1652]

MoM took me off guard with that pg13 rating while Wanda killed the illuminati which looked like something straight out of the boys

[@arcanenecrosis8517]

It could also open it up for them to do a blade vs morbius battle at some point cause blade fought and hinted morbius in the comics on several occasions

[@CowKirbo]

I never knew that moon knight was the origin of the "random bullshit go!" And now I love that superhero

[@CameronKujo]

And “why do I suddenly hear Eminem?”

[@themilz3649]

Well I mean whoever edited the panel came up with it, that panel is original but the words were edited

[@douglasmarshall6949]

it is funny but that is not what moon knight actually said in the comics, it's been edited. I still have it as my head canon tho

[@thegoldendiamond6762]

I never knew anyone asked

[@superseriousperson3729]

It's edited

[@Tepalus]

From a business standpoint it also makes a lot of sense since the main audience from back in the day now is grown up. Hook new kids/teens, keep the adults.

[@deankinsella3579]

@Samuel Eriksson nobody's saying they want to stop the pg13 movies we just don't want a watered down Deadpool, moon knight or blade.

[@a_table]

@Samuel Eriksson you missed the point, you guys are basically saying the same things. It would make sense to have a part of the mcu (knights) thats more R-rated, and good for the adults and older teens that grew up with marvel. And also have the pg-13 side of marvel following the same trend marvel has done in the past, for keeping and hooking in new younger audience. Basically having 2 parts of the mcu. Not fully going R-rated and dropping pg-13

[@Pumkin932]

This crossed my mind as well. Pretty standard, smart business decision.

[@austinwalker2000]

Not nessacarily because new kids become fans every day

[@teddybear8348]

@@austinwalker2000 they don't really matters

[@mariababer7950]

(11:05) So that's not how real relationships are...?

[@CT-1975]

When I was younger I loved all the blade movies and daredevil I hope these characters show up more

[@jamyangpelsang3099]

Back when the new MCU Blade was yet to be announced and the Marvel Netflix shows were still running, I thought Blade would be a perfect addition to the more R-rated Netflix Marvel universe. Now it seems like we might be getting something like that some time in the future....

[@ksaraf23]

Mahersha Ali is gonna be Blade soon, so there’s that!

[@kamren8349]

blade is cannon anyways because he was in a deleted scene with blacknight in eternals

[@admiralweb27]

@@kamren8349 Blade has been confirmed to be an upcoming film, and his first (MCU) Canon appearance was in Eternals. This is a different version from Wesley Snipes Blade trilogy, as I'm sure you know.

[@tenerife_sea]

nope, from the leaks as of today, MCU's blade is still gonna be PG-13, and it's gonna have several time jumps from 1920s, 1930s, and present day.

[@epeeypen]

i am 99% sure Morpheus was suppose to be the R rated movie that helped test the market but marketing messed up and people saw it was a pg 13 movie so they had to change it asap

[@MontclairBear]

If Marvel starts some R rated films, we wont have to worry about having another Morbius again

[@definitelynotat-rex72]

Haven't seen morbius yet,is it bad

[@user-lk2ex7ng8r]

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[@henrywang4566]

@@definitelynotat-rex72 it’s pretty horrible and vulture never appears except for in the end credit scene

[@definitelynotat-rex72]

@@henrywang4566 wow that kinda sucks,morbius was probably one of my favorites and I was kinda excited for it

[@dunkboyxd6618]

@@henrywang4566 so there no mention of any…Spider-Man in the film?

[@cloudscovermyflaws]

First time I realized that I love Marvel’s darker side was when I watched the Legion series. And now with Moon Knight I’m seeing a lot of similarities. Again though, Moon Knight can only do so much of that type of psychological horror without getting an M rating. Which ofc saddens me, bc I’d really like to see what Moon Lnight could’ve been with the same boundaries Legion had. To anyone who hasn’t seen it, I’d highly recommend it. Season 1 is amazing, season 2 is great too but gets a little iffy, and then towards the end it’s just a little too much. But I still definitely recommend.

[@setheaves9608]

Funnily enough, the similarities between Moon Knight show and Legion show are accidental. The Moon Knight show is drawing most of its inspiration from the Jeff Lemire run which was also set in a psychiatric hospital and had a similar vibe/flow as the show. The comic came out a year before the Legion tv show

[@user-uv3li8tk4r]

I liked both legion and moon knight but legion was just leauges better than moonknight. Legion was an fx show And had no connection the mcu/marvel studios. I just don't think that kind of creativity can coexist with the mcu machine

[@cloudscovermyflaws]

@@user-uv3li8tk4r Yeah, I completely agree. Honestly as far as I can tell, FX is doing pretty well for themselves the past few years. One of my favorite shows on television rn is What We Do in the Shadows. It’s a vampire mockumentary from Jemaine Clement and it’s absolutely hilarious, while also putting in the right emotional beats too.

[@ihavenoidea5845]

There is a season 2? :D where can you see it?

[@hdfwk4wjj69wjvi8]

@@ihavenoidea5845 hulu

[@MarvinMartinez2001]

Werewolf by Night is forever iconic!!! 🌕🐺

[@AtlasTheTitan117]

There was rumors reporting a “Marvel Max” for rated R titles for Disney plus for things like Deadpool, Ghost rider and these darker titles. As soon as we got the content permissions the old report came back in my head. Hoping to see it come in soon

[@L16htW4rr10r]

That would be awesome

[@fudgesickle7947]

Yeah until they charge extra for it

[@NERDXCORE]

They need to do that and reprint the Max Omnibus line.

[@judahmoar2533]

I doubt they’re going to lean too hard into the R rated stuff purely because it’s well known R rated projects overall make less money and Disney only cares about that. I don’t doubt they might do a couple R rated movies though.

[@thefrozenyak5272]

I'm betting the more "adult" content will mostly be made for Disney+, especially since they just put a password lock on the TV-MA content. And you can be certain that the R-rated films that see cinematic release will have much smaller budgets than the mainline MCU.

[@StillhetMusic]

There's been a shift in interest for R rated movies recently. I mean look how much Joker and the two Deadpool movies made.

[@CrimsonCharan]

@@StillhetMusic Sure (Logan's another example), but I don't think Disney is gonna make that kind of R rated content. At least, not just yet. We may have to go through a few more Eternals and Moon Knights before we get to the Logans and Deadpools

[@sololeveling7390]

When your as big as disney you can make plent of movies that will propably make less money short term but that will attract more customers in the long run by slowly bringing those that like more r-rated stuff into the mcu. Maybe it's not immediate profit but it propably will be in the long run. But yes Disney does only think about money, but i don't see how that's bad i nthis situation.😁

[@Early2000sCringe]

@@CrimsonCharan Agents of SHIELD has sexual content and graphic scenes of torture, and that started right after the first Avengers. Think their audience skewed a little younger at the time so they couldn't embrace it

[@prullacbrony5676]

Shouldn't Iron Fist gain a little bit of praise at least?

[@iansommer4565]

he was right..it has become more dark and we saw that now when we watched multiverse of madness

[@picklenik9658]

There was one pretty big omission from this video however, being Disney+’s first TV-MA Marvel show, the one, the only, the gravely under appreciated Hit Monkey.

[@benito23453]

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[@benito23453]

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[@PeachBBX]

Hit Monkey is my one of my most favorite marvel stuff

[@ItsTheLedge]

Super Underrated!

[@xTriniT]

I really hope they do make a darker movie. The thing is that I feel Disney won’t allow it because they think it might flop and a movie with a high production budget would lose a ton of money. I do think that Deadpool will definitely be R rated though, if it isn’t everyone will riot.

[@PhantomTissue]

I think they will eventually, I mean, both deadpool movies were wildly successful, It's hard to look at those and say that there's no audience for mature marvel films.

[@PHNX-ls5bt]

pretty sure they have already confirmed that Deadpool 3 will be R-rated, i honestly dont think Ryan Reynolds would do it if it wasn't. That man has put so much on the line to get Deadpool to where he is after the the way they handled him in X-Men Origins. And without Ryan, there is no Deadpool, he's truly the only actor (imo) that could have pulled Deadpool off.

[@tenerife_sea]

@@PHNX-ls5bt let's not forget dr Strange multiverse of madness was confirmed to be r-rated also... and then they changed their minds and change the plans to be pg-13 lol. don't think such promises means reality.

[@sylvaindraaisma2993]

They're probably first testing the waters with a R-rated TV-show. If that flops, there won't be an R-rated movie but if that succeeds, they'll extend the brand. It's a common thing to do for companies. Especicially when they have D+ to their advantage... :)

[@PHNX-ls5bt]

@@tenerife_sea then they probably lose Ryan Reynolds, he dont care about making money, he cares about the character. And without him, it flops anyways. Deadpool 3 being R-rated, is the only way they make big money off what i would assume to be a ridiculous budget

[@madamplatypus313]

This is what my dad and I have been referring to as “Disney After Dark”.

[@Gbeat-]

Alright, after Dr. Strange 2. Yes give me some rated R Marvel stuff. Look at what we see in PG-13 in that movie. It can be even better

[@digitalfantasies4570]

I would love to see a multiversal war with all the heroes going all in bloody, seeing a version of hawkeye just straight up shooting arrows through peoples heads, or hulk splitting people in two. Itd be cool to truly see the carnage that could be unleashed if heroes turnt truly evil and not be misunderstood anti-heroes.

[@benito23453]

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[@Alsacerian]

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[@zigslotheon]

Dude WTF?!

[@anthonystrangio]

That would just be out of character then

[@ericvanzo3012]

“Purple raisin man”. That really got me, with me now noticing, Thanos does look like a raisin.

[@benito23453]

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[@user-lk2ex7ng8r]

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[@theoutsiderjess4869]

How did you not notice the first time you saw him

[@JamesLawner]

I had this idea for a Marvel Knights MCU imprint ever since the new Blade movie was announced, and I think Blade would be perfect for it (Even Moon Knight could've kickstarted this imprint too!).

[@OfficialVeign]

@FilmTheorists, you should do a theory on the cartoon sidekick. I would like to see the topic of if Eric’s sidekick apprenticeship is actually just a rubric for him becoming the next Maxum Man.

[@Fae2705]

"Don't you ever just wish that these characters could just let loose!?" My exact thoughts when watching avatar last air bender/Korra. Zaheer gave me a bit of satisfaction.

[@notengonombre_]

I had the exact same thought! It would be so cool to have like an anime fight sequence with a bit more violence but even I found Zaheer's air suffocation quite cool

[@nateriver6_9]

@@notengonombre_ yeah exactly same here mannn 🤔

[@notengonombre_]

@@nateriver6_9 :) (whats with ur pfp 😳)

[@nateriver6_9]

@@notengonombre_ oh that i love to ship people or characters😁😊

[@notengonombre_]

@@nateriver6_9 🤣lmao best ship

[@kingcasso8611]

"We first have to talk about Blade" My finger instantly moved to the like button

[@ShotKalTank]

9:34 MORBUS11!

[@OmenEchoes]

Wesley Snipes’ Blade was so good, such a classic. I’m excited to see this new version of Blade

[@medo5417]

That'll be insane if its true. I grew up with the more "family friendly" Marvel films and now that I'm going to be 21 more adult things are coming out (maybe)

[@yamatoyazuyuki7049]

I'm 20 and I rather R rated than family friendly because sometimes those movies are better and funnier......plus I like to watch Friday the 13th movies s̶o̶m̶e̶t̶i̶m̶e̶s̶ ┐(￣ヮ￣)┌

[@aidansharp5244]

Don’t forget there was a certain scene in the externals

[@tripleg2513]

You have to remember though, even as we get older, new fans come and the target audience stays the same. We are no longer the target audience, that doesn't mean we can't enjoy the films, it just means we shouldn't be trying to take something from the target audience that never really belonged to us in the first place.

[@pjdianalan7934]

@@aidansharp5244 pls, that wasn't even that explicit.

[@kristenweinel9101]

I’m hoping I’ll be 21 in September was low key about to comment the same thing

[@PatrickWDunne]

Calling Eternals the "arthouse Marvel" movie is fitting considering that Chloe Zhao is heavily inspired by Terrance Malik

[@Blodhelm]

Oof to both.

[@TheAdvertisement]

0:28 Petition for the "MCnotforallofU" to become the official name of the R-Rated MCU.

[@GamerComicMovieDork]

I am so excited for this bro!

[@seanster9735]

I don't think they'd be able to make characters like Deadpool and Blade family friendly without insane backlash from fans, could you imagine if a film like Joker was made like that?

[@TheRumym8]

deadpool you can make family friendly but only when hes not in a solo movie you just have him break the 4th wall and go sorry guys family friendly film and if blade and other dark tone characters team up just have it at a lighter tone

[@tenerife_sea]

ryan reynold's free guy is basically pg-13 deadpool lol. so much so that when I was watching it feels like it was like a mini audition of deadpool but pg-13 for disney..

[@100madmic]

@@tenerife_sea a lot of people like deadpool ratred R. The last two where Rated R it would make people angry if they made deadpool pg 13. and Free guy is different movie. Deadpool is more gorry and you wouldn't be able to that in pg 13 movies it wouldn't fit deadpool to be honest.

[@j4ckpsych0_54]

@@tenerife_sea tbh any movies he's in now all I can see is deadpool even detective Pikachu all I could hear was deadpool 🤣

[@YouScareMe1]

@@TheRumym8 Oh god no. That sounds horrible. Nothing worse than having a character behave differently in different movies for no other reason.

[@ThatHolyGamer]

It's crazy that this theory was correct, We'll miss you Matpat!

[@athenaceladina8455]

Totally unrelated to this video but I have a theory Idea that I personally want answers to- How much money would Ms. Rabbit make in a year with all the jobs she runs(But she's somehow able to run all of them in a day, coz cartoon logic ofc, this is optional)?? hope ur able to do this one- it's been lingering in my head for half a month!

[@neversyn2panda984]

I am all for more gritty, dark, shows. I just hope they don’t go heavy on the other end of the R-rated spectrum.

[@thunderfury5958]

What? Go the Netflix route and over sexualize EVERYTHING?

[@cosmic_seabunny]

@@thunderfury5958 Yes exactly, worrying about making it sexy instead of actually good.

[@priz69420]

@@cosmic_seabunny Daredevil (show) route is the way

[@OurCumrade]

ya same

[@OliverShearer]

@@cosmic_seabunny good movies can be sexy

[@MollyDollyy]

3:48 Bully Macquarie, Where did Bully come from? Is it Simply the Meme, Or is there a Reason?

[@zombathinlostleghackercat5233]

11:27 Ultra Ego Vegeta: Look what they need to mimic a fraction of my power, Kakarot! \ Goku: Lol, yeah! (For those who don't know, Kakarot and Goku are the same person. His birth name was Kakarot, but it was changed to Goku due to some events when he was sent to Earth.)

[@JCglitchmaster]

3:45 Whichever editor did this bully Maguire bit should get a bonus.

[@somerguy3527]

I don’t really think they’re going to go this path, but it would be interesting to see

[@RoxDZoro]

I really hope they do, moon knight has seems more mature

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

Disney won’t let it happen,I hope they do this in the Multiverse of Madness

[@Alsacerian]

@Mbita Acoustic Guitar can you stop copypasting the same stuff and just changing the ytber name and stop self promote

[@Alsacerian]

@@RoxDZoro yeah me too

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

@YurLocalAfricanBoy Moon Knight is a naturally Dark character and it’s a Tv show we are talking about the movies

[@rogueguardian]

They really should do this. having a darker set of heros especially Marvel heroes is a good direction to take. I do love the core MCU / light-hearted nature of the movies, but I also love shows like Daredevil that take themselves seriously and aren't trying to be super kid friendly.

[@MikachuonYT]

hi im a small youtuber whos trying to grow, any support would be appreciated ❤ thanks!

[@KidKomical]

No they shouldn’t this is so unfair to us younger viewers

[@ParsonDewey]

@@KidKomical bruh there’s plenty of marvel movies having to wait a few years to watch a more mature one isn’t the end of the world.

[@rogueguardian]

Can someone fix the dam algorithm!!??

[@KidKomical]

@@ParsonDewey but I don’t want to tho

[@tannerhiggins2920]

Matt!!! Huge fan of all of your channels! I love how you put so much research, dedication, and science into all of your vids! Which leads me to my question. With Deadpool becoming an X-man, and Spiderman finally joining the Avengers, where does The Runaways come in? And when do The Fantastic Four become Canon? The Runaways were amazing, almost giving a "Teen Titans" vibe to the Marvel Universe. The girl that could mind control and communicate with a pet dinosaur, the Alien girl that could glow for some reason, the "She Hulk" with super strength, the brilliant Inventor scientist, the stereotypical Asian that can wield a staff, and the very intelligent leader of the group that fought himself between good n evil. I loved the show, and was super sad when it got cancelled. I wish they did more with their storylines. And then Fantastic Four obviously takes place within New York, like the Avengers do too! So how do FF interject with the Avengers? These are all questions I need answers to! And also, what's the difference between Captain Marvel and Ms Marvel!?!?!?

[@Lucy-bi8ct]

you should do a theory on where the wild things are !!!

[@Atomic181]

Phase Four of the MCU has been depressing, unexpected and heart-breaking so far. Without spoiling anything, I'll just say that Shang-Chi was definitely the most light-hearted film in Phase Four so far.

[@hesklairvoyant]

not even lol they wernt depressing at all

[@Fantallana]

I think “depressing” might be an exaggeration, but WandaVision and No Way Home definitely made me teary-eyed.

[@hesklairvoyant]

@@Fantallana really? i understand nwh but wandavision was pretty fun and lighthearted to me i dont remember any sad moments to hmm

[@eclipsereviews4678]

@@hesklairvoyant I think wandavision was heartbreaking cause Vision was dead n Scarlet wouldnt get over it and just kept digging a deeper hole for herself.

[@hesklairvoyant]

@@eclipsereviews4678 yes that part was very tragic

[@Soup6]

It's time for the entertainment industry to hire matpat on as a consultant. His ideas are always better than the actual decisions made

[@Sealygaming90001]

This hits different after watching multiverse of madness...

[@tiiibo]

i just watched it... i agree lol

[@j-zhirngaming9550]

Fax

[@kayr805]

just got done watching MoM and can say that matpats done it again

[@-TheMuffinMan]

As long as it's only more dark and diving into adult subjects like child trafficking, horror or things like that I'm all for it. Just nothing sexual.

[@wesstewart2677]

So you reference child trafficking, but you don’t want anything sexual? Um… I see where you coming from but those two ideas are very contradictory, Marvel should be able to tell darker stories without relying on shock value. I would actually like them to tackle issues such as drug trafficking, religious cults, etc.

[@OGStarlightKY]

Can’t have your cake and eat it too. You either want adult subjects or not.

[@SuperIsaiah]

@@OGStarlightKY that's not really how it works. Just because a movie is r rated doesn't mean they have to actively go for every single thing they can

[@teddybear8348]

@@SuperIsaiah well when i watch Logan i was 15 and there was 5 year old same goes for joker and suiside squad (2021)

[@rawfermews4186]

@@SuperIsaiah Okay but like expect it

[@bestlaptop_psn]

Man I wish. Attacks would look, sound, and just feel more powerful

[@slug_boi6262]

Same

[@Alsacerian]

@Hi bro Bot

[@Alsacerian]

@Red 🧢 imagine being a bot

[@sovietbiscuit9918]

Nice Saints Row PFP

[@youknowho1274]

Here after a year just to say mat really was prophetic considering the blade and echo news!!

[@queenbrii2266]

Omg please please PLEASE do an episode on Severance! (On Apple TV) it’s right up your alley: mysterious company splits your consciousness into work/home versions. Tons of lore and weird/creepy offices.

[@ThePete7499]

Invincible and The Boys watchers: FINALLY, SOME ACTION

[@anotherpapasheev7546]

Aquarus was too good

[@ryanbensberg5846]

If they do do R rated MCU movies, then sadly they probably wont have any major impact on the overall story, as there are some people who cant watch it.

[@teddybear8348]

Some people will still see that you know

[@fictionverse7292]

@@teddybear8348 but it could mess up some younger audiences

[@fictionverse7292]

@Monsterplayer007 both them and Disney should care if they want to have parental issue

[@PlannedObsolescence]

@@fictionverse7292 "Mess up"?

[@ryanbensberg5846]

@@PlannedObsolescence i think they mean it may mess up the overall story for younger audiances, just by missing thing

[@sociopathic_mc66]

this is even more true when you take into consideration the extra scenes at the end of Morbius.

[@LiamChaidez]

Just saw Werewolf by night, and you might be right.

[@JosephWolfson]

10:16 There is a fake ebony blade in the comics that was made by Dracula. So, they are related in that way.

[@SaadNabil]

Blade, Punisher, Man-Thing, Logan, and Deadpool are the 5 R-rated Marvel films! Marvel has many TV-MA shows on Netflix used to be and Hulu

[@benito23453]

MatPat is a brain burner!(Правдивое видео):.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXK0qYOJrLJnnpI

[@PhilCross943]

And Deadpool 2

[@keytrononit3]

The marvel shows are on Disney plus

[@lightningpenguin8937]

Those weren't made by Disney's marvel, and it would be stupid to change them.

[@LUCKO2022]

None of those films are Marvel films. Not a single one of them. There is a difference between Marvel made and marvel licensed films. Marvel made films involve Marvel in the making of the films while the Marvel licensed does not.

[@JetFalco]

y'all remember when we got Blade in 2023?

[@zhanqi2454]

I think the "in space" series by mark is pretty interesting. Pretty sure theres lore too

[@MrMovieMaker116]

Fun fact: Dr. Doom has pieces of Jesus' cross in his armor just in case he runs into Dracula...again.

[@awesomedonut8228]

they can team up over the shared trauma of owning money to superpowered guys from new york

[@aaronalquiza9680]

13:26 Did anyone else notice at the end when Matpat started to say his closing signature, the "BUT" was kinda all in, but the "HEY" sounded kinda held back?

[@playstation.e7703]

You are over thinking this

[@leinadreign3510]

So, when is a theory about Severance or From coming? Would be interesting.

[@bozo7769]

*“werewolf by night” was perfection*

[@Kloud733]

i love how after all these years the energy is still high as ever in the narration 😂 really keeps you interested and engaged

[@m00bi]

Fairly enough there were kids who've been with the MCU since Iron man and now are already grown up (that includes me, I was in the 1st grade when Iron Man came out). Not to mention there have already been older audiences since way back waiting for the more mature content, so it just serves right that they'd expand this way at this point in time of the MCU. And really, if they made mature content. the kids that weren't allowed to see it in theaters will also grow up eventually. (but who are we kidding most of us watched some 18+ things by the age of 10)

[@aidenflame1576]

MY POINT EXACTLY I WAS READING LITEROTICA AND LEARNING ABT KINKS AND GOT MY S*X ED FROM ONLINE BY AGE 12 like thankfully i learned well cuz im a dillegent and researchy kid but ye xD

[@caliisfkinbored]

i was in middle school when deadpool came out and literally everyone had seen it, the rating doesn’t change anything but the content and it’s still disney so ofc they’re not gonna go all out

[@user-sc3df4ll8m]

Matpat: Don’t you ever wish these characters could ever just let loose and get gritty? Me: No not really. I am actually quite satisfied with how the movies are right now. Why do you ask?

[@PoisonIvory088]

No one cops trying to take you in in nfsmw: 3:58

[@hagros93]

The Comics Code hadn't disappeared by the 70s, they just updated their guidelines to be less strict and allow zombies, vampires, werewolves etc.

[@micahphilson]

8:25 Of course Dracula exists in Marvel. Santa exists in Marvel.

[@Primucron]

I think the tone and subject matter we'll possibly be exploring in these future titles would more fit the Marvel MAX subtitle, where stories like the recently added Jessica Jones, luke Cage, and Punisher found home for a solid while, as well as newer titles/ ones on the way like Werewolf by Night, Blade, Shang-Chi, and even Deadpool had at least a miniseries under. It wouldn't have a direct tie to one specific team but be a great catch-all for the more gritty/R rated content they want to produce without watering it down for a family friendly showing or railroading unrelated characters to a team they may not directly mesh well with

[@Cinemystery_]

I think the relationship between Natasha and Bruce Banner is very mature

[@danielclark-hughes692]

I would _love_ more grown up stories from Marvel. The comics deal with some dark stuff and to see that a little more faithfully recreated would be awesome.

[@user-jm6qe6sz2p]

MatPat is a brain burner!(Правдивое видео): kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXK0qYOJrLJnnpI

[@Jack-rj4kd]

Ultimate universe incoming

[@Raccon_Detective.]

@@Jack-rj4kd AKA Marvel set on the realistic hard mode. There's a reason why In Spider-Man PS4 the hardest mode is called "Ultimate".

[@lorddaraken7568]

I would love to see a darker version of Agatha and Wanda, especially because of Agatha absorbing the NRG of the other witches

[@lilithhenderson]

hope this is what we get in house of harkness

[@glocktop916]

agatha is not a villian tho

[@jamespope7669]

@@glocktop916 Agatha is a villain and a lame one at that.

[@glocktop916]

@@jamespope7669 no shes not you clearly didnt read the comics

[@lilithhenderson]

@@glocktop916 she works for Mephisto

[@JOVAHK11N]

after watching Multiverse of Madness today, I can safely say this is the most R rated PG-13 movie ever seen.

[@charlottesylvester2914]

The meme at the end is so funny!

[@bobjoebo8933]

But mat, we all knew that vampires existed in the MCU. Especially three of them huddled together

[@netonnaanigbogu8304]

I don't get it

[@johannesstephanusroos4969]

@@netonnaanigbogu8304 I don't either

[@ohio9499]

Is there supposed to be a joke here? Could you explain?

[@m.a.9648]

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[@Blazecap]

@@netonnaanigbogu8304 replying to you so you hopefully get notified

[@JayVal90]

Going rated R has its disadvantages though. It always gets treated as “moar better movies” but it affects longevity of the material. People get tired of the escalation and no-holds-barred nature of it after a short period of time.

[@na3rial]

I agree, but that's what happens when you use it fast and loose to just "spice things up" for the sake of drama and base entertainment. Marvel has been (mostly) very good about using action sequences to build up characters or relationships, showing newfound teamwork, or clumsiness, or how off the cuff some heroes fight.

[@deadboltzz5199]

You guys can keep watching pg-13 movies

[@cliffritch7304]

It depends on the reason for the r rating. If it is just rated r to make a no holds barred movie, and that's all that's going on, sure. But the world is messy. Making many movies that are only showing the innocent side of the world (at least to the PG-13 level of innocent) misses out on a lot of potential stories. They don't have to be escalating just because it's rated r. It may just open up a larger set of stories that feel real. 2 wildly different examples: 1) suppose you're making a movie about a large war. Showing the horrors that the innocent people went through might raise a movie's rating to r. But that makes it feel more real, and the stakes are more grounded, not just some abstract thing that you know is happening off screen. 2) in a romance story, pg-13 might imply a physical relationship, but it wouldn't really show anything like that. But the reality is that most adult relationships have a physical component. So including it occasionally might make the love more believable. That isn't to say only things that are rated r are good. Far from it. But that rating doesn't have to limit a story to fit into any particular box

[@deadboltzz5199]

@Kondapalli Vedh Saugandh Reddy We've already seen good R rated movies like the joker he's just not old enough to watch it 🤣🤣🤣

[@visulaketagoda8621]

I think they'd split into two as pg 13 and r rated .

[@Bfdi_fan2008]

Do a theory on sulpher springs

[@deniseorta6409]

You know what i just found out matt has never done a theory on cloudy with a chance of meatballs like is it actually possible to turn water in burgers and are we just being monsters and killing all those cows

[@danktorvosaurus]

1:50 Iron Man did it first

[@Timewarpiaman]

I have been saying Disney should create an MCU version of Marvel Knights for a literal decade now. It makes so much sense it's crazy we still haven't gotten it yet.

[@randomlygeneratedname7171]

I think they are waiting for the next generations to be firmly onboard.

[@YouScareMe1]

Not really. The tonal changes would be way too drastic. Also the box office returns would be less. A really good R-rated film is lucky to make a billion dollars at the box office.

[@teddybear8348]

@@YouScareMe1 you have joker so that proves

[@YouScareMe1]

@@teddybear8348 Which proves my point. Joker is the only billion dollar rated-R film.

[@teddybear8348]

@@YouScareMe1 yeah and it was a Oscar winning movie so if marvel would take risk like that then what's is the problem?

[@TurtleTamer06]

I love the opening where peter sprouts a new hand out of his neck

[@jipoxfred2975]

ngl, that is a great theory. I'm sad that im not gonna be able to see some of the newer movies tho

[@kevinsanders2216]

I hope this is true. I have very few complaints about the MCU movies but the big one is that it always feels like it’s for children and not really teenagers young adults and so on. If they can make an edgier more realistic world for people like blade without compromising the characters then I’m on board.

[@laynemartin7914]

I totally see a dual continuity coming with adult movies and shows that compliment the main movies but that don't leave holes in the continuity for younger viewers who can't see them.

[@toniodejimi3905]

This is exactly what I want. Make it so the adults have their extra content but younger viewers, or people with specific triggers, still aren’t left out.

[@laynemartin7914]

@@toniodejimi3905 also totally think Deadpool would work in this situation... have him in commercials going is this for adults or kids? And in the family movies have him make a comment reminding himself or another character that they have to be on their best behavior. Little inside jokes for adults like that but that kids still get to see the merc making Dad-Reynolds level jokes

[@laynemartin7914]

@@toniodejimi3905 have him make a comment on the darker lighting and get all excited he can do whatever he wants cause it's an adult movie (look to camera, but not that kind...yet)

[@ComicGal]

I wonder if someone working on these Marvel projects saw this and was like "oh f@#K he figured it out"

[@antoniobraga4354]

8:45 okay now Mat is just seeing the Future boy this time GLASS SHOE DUDE

[@zeekjones1]

This is the same rule of content they do with nostalgia. As people age up, the content is rereleased to the masses. The memory is unclear, but you don't remember it being bad. These shows will be seen out of at the very least a bit of curiosity. _Let's just hope the content is quality, as many times it's to hold rights to an IP or a plain old cash grab that kills the IP._

[@cpt.char6465]

Honestly I want to see a theory on the kids show Bluey. If anyone has kids they're bound to know it. I want a theory on how the different species of dogs could evolve without being domesticated from wolves and bred with specific purposes. Maybe it'll just be attributed to how there were different human like species that mated with each other, but I'd like a breakdown of it still.

[@Devzillah]

Bluey is a banger