Film Theory: Ant Man Will DIE! (Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania)

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Theorists, now that Comic Con happened and we got a peek into the newly expanded plans for the MCU, I think it's time for a little theory I've been kicking around. An... Ant-Man sized theory you might say. You see, I think I know what the big event of Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania is going to be. We already know that Kang is going to show up, so it has to be some thing BIG. I think our favorite multi-sized hero is going to DIE!
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[@eterty8335]

I bet Matpat is just following Dr. Strange's advice: "If I tell you what happens, it won't happen" and wants to keep his secretly favorite character in the MCU to live

[@a_random_W]

ant man live hussa

[@icy_fire4080]

Next video: STAR LORD WILL DIE IN GOTG3

[@surendraniyer1944]

This guy's video after some decades-I'm going to die this year

[@CFXplosive]

I really hope so 🙏🙏🙏

[@Call_Upon_YAH]

Hey! Did you know God is three in one!? The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit! Bless him! Jesus died for our sins, rose from the dead, and gives salvation to everyone who has faith in him! True faith in Jesus will have you bear good fruit and *drastically* change for the better! Have a blessed day, everyone! ❤

[@DavidTheBaker]

Your theories are so believable that these videos feel like spoilers

[@rinkyouma2320]

true.

[@gungungun9yago]

fr

[@spliceoflife4877]

@@DelPlays the statute of limitations was like 13 years ago

[@DamoMartin]

@@DelPlays you are so late bruh

[@wenimechaindesuma3712]

@@DelPlays bro really getting mad for being years late

[@TopDiggerYT]

I was fully expecting Ant Man to die, yet here we are after the release of the movie and he's still writing books and making podcasts.

[@alamrasyidi4097]

didnt watch this theory when i watched the movie, but man, did it come close...

[@unkirbyjosuke1904]

@@alamrasyidi4097 They did say that they had to remake and reshoot the end of the movie so maybe it was suppose to happen.

[@ederdiaz1639]

@@unkirbyjosuke1904 they were reshooting up until january

[@accutronitisthe2nd95]

@@unkirbyjosuke1904 Nope...

[@butnobodycame7022]

I mean, hey, not the first time a theory was wrong, nor the last, but they are fun at least, and family friendly

[@kerubi5s]

This theory was so believable that when it came to the end of the movie when it was Ant man vs Kang i thought it was gonna be his death now lmao

[@liamphibia]

But Marvel Studios was like *NAH!*

[@thefusingcookie]

Matpat: "Antman is gonna DIE!" Antman in the next movie: "So anyways,why is everybody crying?"

[@smartyexplorer135]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH2ai4SXnb5jl8k Finally it's here.

[@KilluaYT420]

F

[@projekttaku1]

antman: "Wait, why does that grave have my name on it?" Everyone: "SCOTT!"

[@ahmed4363]

He's gonna pull a Joseph Joestar

[@Z.iggy-]

@@ahmed4363 man of great culture

[@Flaris]

Admittedly that does sound like something Disney would do. Killing Scott to replace him with Hope and his daughter just sounds very plausible.

[@BillyBob-kw5oq]

I don’t think Ant-Man will die I think Hank Pym will die

[@jangomango66]

Obviously he’s gonna die, you can’t have a MAN in the M-SHE-U!

[@MysteryMusic512]

Bro these bots be WILDING

[@scorpionspets9832]

Yeah they want everyone to be young and female.

[@astrotrain6037]

5 out of seven comments here are bots, wow

[@liamphibia]

8:14 - 9:40 God I love MatPat's theories. They usually turn out to be far better then what you'd expect Marvel Studios to do. But sadly, this did *not* age well.☹️

[@liamphibia]

Ant-Man dying could have not only shocked the audience, but it could've also shown us how dangerous and sinister Kang is. He's supposed to be the next Thanos, RIGHT?!

[@zebrolightshow7224]

The film did do a fake out, making us believe that Scott and Hope would be trapped in the Quantumrealm. But then Scott’s daughter just found them and plopped a portal on their location. It would have been better if the film actually ended with them stuck in the Quantumrealm. While it wouldn’t have been as big as Kang killing ant man, it would have still showed that defeating Kang took a big sacrifice.

[@williamwoolf8072]

this video was better than the movie

[@Trithis2077]

For multiple reasons in fact. 😬

[@mrlowdays]

Well, he didn't die and I think a big reason is how early this movie plays into the multiverse saga. It seems like we're 2 movies and a disney plus series from Kang dinasty but Quantumania is the first movie of phase 5 and killing Scott would be too soon for that, specially since Kang told him about the incursions and the future war that lies ahead. Phase 4 felt like a period of transition and establilshment of future players and Scott will play a big part in phase 5 and beyond since he is now taking essentially Tony Stark's role of being the paranoid hero and will most likely be working with his family for a way to escape an incursion.

[@alamrasyidi4097]

we _did_ get Fractions that the Kang Dynasty is getting antsy with universes getting aware of the existence of the multiverse in this movie, which is a major yikes. i think people are being too impatient for Kang to unleash his full power

[@annikenlittle9644]

Liar video alive

[@CovenantRoadkill]

Seems MatPat failed to remember that Scott Lang is not the only Ant-Man in the Ant-Fam. Hank Pym is far more likely to die in Quantumania than Scott.

[@dabatman5187]

Especially since Paul Rudd is a fan favorite.

[@creaperreaper6676]

But the whole point of a pinch point is that it’s supposed to be meaningful, and tbh as much as i love Hank Pym, he really isn’t that meaningful. People love Paul Rudd and his character, but that’s the exact reason why it’s more probable that he will die

[@lilsavage9946]

@@creaperreaper6676 It would still be pretty meaningful since I believe Hank is the only one capable of making Pym Particles, which is what the Avengers Time Machine runs on. If Hank dies, it would mean no more going back in time to fix mistakes and put them at a major disadvantage since Kang is pretty much all about time travel.

[@creaperreaper6676]

@@lilsavage9946 But you’ve got to realize that even if that is the case, those effects are too obscure for them to have any real meaning. Even you yourself said “I believe” which shows uncertainty because of its lack of meaning. Though i think you’re correct, it shows that the effects of his death are to obscure, especially the ones you named. If Hank Pym were to die, the first effect to pop into most minds wouldn’t be the fact that they can’t make any more time traveling particles. The movie would have to directly explain that effect for most to understand the importance of his death, which would just be bad/unneeded writing. The effects of the death need to be easily understood for the pinch point to have any real effect. If it isn’t important then it really isn’t a pinch point.

[@Mr.Ghostbusters]

If the Quantumania will be with parallel universes, then it would be pretty badass to see Hank Pym as the Yellowjacket (from What if...)

[@trixxartarchive7705]

Honestly the ant man is super underrated I find it really funny and Paul rudd does really good playing the character.

[@milkshakedraws6944]

I agree wholeheartedly, I find them really fun to watch, even if people don’t like how they’re toned. The X-con group is one of my favorite aspects of the movie, I wish we saw more of them just doing random shenanigans. Maybe shorts or something.

[@ClassicWafflesBreakfast]

@YоuTubе 🅥 the

[@smartyexplorer135]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH2ai4SXnb5jl8k Finally it's here.

[@minato_arisato3751]

I really wish it was directed by Edgar Wright like it was planned to be

[@thepersonnooneknows]

the ant man series is my favorite!

[@jkenzienye3732]

When the theory is better than the movie...

[@LightsCameraAnts]

Bro if Ant Man actually unalives, I will be so sad 😭

[@mellow3995]

Nice, now that Matpat made a theory saying Antman will die, I can rest easy knowing he'll survive the movie

[@CatsRuleMeow123]

He’s made correct theories before tho….also what are the replies comments😭

[@mellow3995]

@@CatsRuleMeow123 I mean true but it's like 1 in 20 of his Marvel ones are accurate lel, no hate for Matpat though, these videos are entertaining as heck

[@luckytrap897]

@@CatsRuleMeow123 The replies are filled with bots now, its just how yt is right now

[@en.zen0939]

@卐-Lakehuntist-卐 bruh

[@justjsutmira7372]

@YоuTubе 🅥 PLASE WHY

[@madebarriere]

Yes, but what if Wong dies... think about it for a second. He has appeared in just about every major movie lately. It would be a punch to the gut to see him pass the torch now that Doc Strange finally acknowledged him as the sorcerer supreme.

[@Hadeks_Marow]

You do get Wong is the new Phil Coulson, right? Sorcerers are pretty much the new S.H.I.E.L.D. They are the only ones watching over the earth and reality anymore. And yes, I bring this up in direct reference to Avengers 1.

[@madebarriere]

@@Hadeks_Marow of course yes, but what if…? No pun intended.

[@AnInsideJoke]

@Hadeks Marow ....Ummm, you might wanna double-check what happened to Coulson at the end of Agents of Shield. Him being the "new Coulson" would actually be planting the biggest death flag of all.

[@MiloMurphysLaw]

@@AnInsideJoke I think that’s why they mentioned Avengers 1 when calling him the new Coulson. Specifically because Coulson died in that movie. But if the same happens to Wong, it’ll probably be in The Kang Dynasty.

[@AurionYT]

That would be a terrible thing to do.... just wong of them.

[@omegaoverl0ad]

Marvel screen writer: Phew! We finally finished the movie! Random employee: Hey guys! Matpat uploaded a video spoiling the ending of our movie! Screen writer: godammit! Now we have to change the ending, again!

[@ESK0VER0_x]

Imagine if Marvel executives see this and decide to surprise the audience by letting Scott live

[@ESK0VER0_x]

@Bobby Kelly Geez I totally forgot this fact!🤓

[@staceydavis7113]

Matpat did it, he saved Ant-Man!

[@alamrasyidi4097]

Ant Man movies always had a lighter tone to them... im glad they still kept it in even when the villain is the greatest multiversal threat

[@liamphibia]

And they did!

[@KEYAZTheG]

Let’s say that Kang will certainly do more irreversible damage than Thanos.

[@smartyexplorer135]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH2ai4SXnb5jl8k Finally it's here..

[@krounos1]

Kang will definitely change things forever.

[@jasonseipler2665]

"Kang will certainly do more irreversible damage than Thanos."

[@airbnbreviews693]

Kang will climb up the butthole of reality and will expand himself.

[@Gottaloveaxolotls]

@@airbnbreviews693 I don’t think I can wrap my head around such deep concepts my friend

[@grahamcann1761]

Makes sense, "Ant Man will die", but you didn't consider which "AntMan"? Given how popular Paul Rudd's Ant-Man is, (and given how old Michael Douglas is,) I'd say they're much more likely to murder the original Hank Pym / Ant-Man. But hey... As always thank you so very much for the video.

[@MiloMurphysLaw]

True, but Iron Man and Captain America haven’t appeared since Endgame. Just because they’re popular doesn’t mean they’re guaranteed to stick around.

[@breawen]

"Given how popular Paul Rudd's Ant-Man is" Iron-Man who started it all: 🗿

[@loke6664]

That wouldn't be dramatic enough. Marvel needs to get people to the movies and there have been some super hero fatigue lately so if they want to get huge crowds to see their movies they need to have high stakes. Having a super old former hero dying just wont get many people to care. They might have gone overboard a bit with endgame since it will be very hard to top, great movie but how do you raise the stakes higher then that? I am not saying that the Marvel movies will flop unless they raise the stakes but it will be hard to beat Endgame. Movie genres tend to go up and down and I believe super heroes are going down at the moment, there have just been a bit too many movies both from Marvel and other studios the last 15 years and you can say the same thing about Star wars movies too. We seen other genres go up and down as well, Vampire movies were super popular a few years back but now people aren't interested in them but they will come back again after a while. Fans always watch them anyways but also need the general public to see them if you want those blockbuster numbers, particularly since these movies aren't cheap to make. I might of course be wrong and super heroes just took a little Covid break with everything else but I do think they need to make a bit of an effort with the next few movies.

[@Albino_Basilisk]

@@breawen more than one thing can be popular

[@dabatman5187]

That’s what I think will happen. After all, the mentor dying is a common trope in movies

[@eliasclayton7980]

Anyone else come back to these videos after watching the film?

[@natek9036]

I believe this was marvels original plan and then changed it last minute

[@unreachablesecretary]

Interesting theory, and it for sure would be interesting too see one of the "most lighthearted" franchises of the MCU turn dark, I doubt it'll happen but it could certainly be interesting

[@smartyexplorer135]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH2ai4SXnb5jl8k Finally it's here.

[@randomlygeneratedname7171]

MCU is waiting for all of Gen Z to get past at least 16 I think.

[@jossuealfaro7257]

@@randomlygeneratedname7171 and for gen alpha to reach 13

[@lilricebowl9731]

Man I love ant man tho 😢

[@spudsbuchlaw]

@@jossuealfaro7257 fucking what?

[@TheNovawolf3113]

What if the Ant-Man that gets killed is Hank Pym? I mean he's probably like a grandfather figure to Cassie by this point and the only living person who can create Pym particles that allow for time travel something that I'm sure Kang would be against. This would go with the theme of heroes losing their tech in the 3rd installment movies.

[@elegante8520]

But the thing is that it won't hit as hard because we never saw Cassie or Hank interact unlike her interactions with her father, which is something we actually saw, in fact Scott and Cassie's relationship has always been a main focus for the films

[@kevinmckenna5682]

Yeah, this is more likely.

[@xenoking2739]

This is also a good alternative. I approve of thee👍

[@Call_Upon_YAH]

Hey! Did you know God is three in one!? The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit! Bless him! Jesus died for our sins, rose from the dead, and gives salvation to everyone who has faith in him! True faith in Jesus will have you bear good fruit and *drastically* change for the better! Have a blessed day, everyone! ❤

[@Call_Upon_YAH]

Your worries (yes, anxiety), depression, suicidal thoughts, EVERYTHING will melt away and be NO MORE when you lean on God and put your trust in him! When I have physical pain, I literally pray and the Lord quells it, that I am healed! Know that there is power in the name Jesus Christ! His name casts out demons and heals! People are bothered by his name. The world hates the truth and wants to continue living sinfully! God's children are set apart (holy) and righteous.

[@fanwu6848]

I am sooo happy that matpat was wrong cuz if ant-man was gonna die i swear i was gonna sue marvel

[@milofunnycatmoments]

Sadly, Ant-Man hasn’t watched Because Science as he doesn’t know that he has beyond thanos level power

[@gurglequeen433]

So if MattPatt says Scott will die, then we can rest easy that he'll be safe.

[@rickbill06]

Actually he made a Lot of right calls on Marvel.

[@smartyexplorer135]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH2ai4SXnb5jl8k Finally it's here.

[@metallicarchaea1820]

@@rickbill06 obvious calls by default make them right calls so you're not wrong.....

[@jollyd.joestar3937]

@@rickbill06 especially with endgame, the writers even change it, Matt said Cap would die and Tony will retire, what happens? The opposite

[@johnman8398]

@@metallicarchaea1820 True but most of the calls he makes aren't obvious.

[@maldinerinesus3161]

That part at the end got me xD “Or he’ll just hop up Kang’s BUT HEY, that just a theory!”

[@smartyexplorer135]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH2ai4SXnb5jl8k Finally it's here..

[@loganstrom9410]

yes, it was a good joke.

[@1na_muse]

That was a good one!

[@darthvulture]

to be fair i heard they changed the ending just a month before release, so he could've been right!

[@simplystreaming3282]

After seeing antman three, him: " well this is akward " 😅

[@raylifts6330]

Another Marvel “pattern” is death and returning secretly as another hero. Like Hawkeye did becoming Ronin. In the comics Ant Man “died” but then returned as Yellow Jacket. Also, we all know young heroes need mentors. Scott could potentially be Cassie’s mentor as well when he returns, taking more or a background role.

[@arcticdragon5823]

I remember watching him become Yellow Jacket in EMH and it was one of the most amazing moments in the show for me.

[@exeggutivejudge3747]

@@arcticdragon5823 That was Hank that turned into Yellowjacket in that show tho, not Scott

[@arianagrandefromfortnite]

Hank Pym was the original antman who became yellowjacket. Yellow Jacket was better suited for him thematically because AntMan was a hero and Hank Pym was, in his heart, anything but. He was a scientist and he a cold, selfish and harmful person. That's why he came back as Yellow Jacket, to ditch AntMan and be alone. It would be weird to have Scott Lang Ant Man fake his death in this movie just to come back as Yellow Jacket because.... why? Like why would he do that, just because a different antman character did it in the comics?

[@mskadwa]

But Hawkeye didn't die?

[@blaaaaaaanket]

Yellow jacket is an already established character in the mcu in the first ant man, so I don't think it makes much sense for Scott to become a villain he already fought

[@TalkingTigg]

That ending actually wrangled a legitimate laugh out of me. Good job mattpatt

[@spider-man015]

up his…. but thats just a theory, a film theory!

[@Narra0002]

Matpat*

[@TalkingTigg]

I said what I said.

[@spider-man015]

@@TalkingTigg no you spelled it wrong, its matpat, not mattpatt they are correcting you

[@TalkingTigg]

@@spider-man015 I. SAID. WHAT. I. SAID.

[@freeziac]

I definitely think this is the direction the MCU is going, given those very insightful screenwriting tips at the beginning. I just hope that it's still giving us a few surprises along the way.

[@MovieFan1912]

Well, this aged brilliantly.

[@theseproblemsmatter1]

13:18 This has to be the best 'but hey thats just a theory' by Matpat

[@Errogix_]

Honestly ye

[@tomisdaboss0428]

I’m actually really excited for this movie. Paul Rudd plays ant man amazingly. It’s really funny, plays a good story, and just overall really good.

[@clumsyclewer]

@WORLD OF FAMILY GUY k I won’t

[@senatorarmstrong6483]

COMRADES. THE BOTS ABOVE ME ARE TERRIFYING!, DO NOT LISTEN TO THEM! WE MUST MAKE THE MOTHER OF ALL OMELETTES! and yes, I AGGREE with u

[@trixxartarchive7705]

Ant Man is probably the most underrated mcu movie

[@bmm9738]

Any man?

[@theeccentric7080]

@@trixxartarchive7705 Agreed, Not To Mention He's One of The Most Dangerous Avengers Too.

[@Basementcheese]

To be fair most of us thought he would die

[@mikey05_70]

Wow based off of the new trailer, the pieces are being put into place for this theory to be true. It’s so cool to see a few details in trailers after having watched theory videos and thinking, “wow this could end with antman dying” or “hey that character is gonna die”. It’s scary and cool at the same time

[@annikenlittle9644]

Lies

[@marshadow2285]

Technically “Ant-Man” will die, my theory is that Hank Pym (the original ant man) is going to die, I don’t think Scott is finished, not yet

[@BillyBob-kw5oq]

Bro I was thinking the same thing

[@smartyexplorer135]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH2ai4SXnb5jl8k Finally it's here..

[@kaybadberg534]

I think Scott Lang will definitely be put out of commission for some time as well as Hank dying.

[@dstranger]

Exactly what I've been thinking as for all we know Hank will be a decoy so that the group can get out of a situation at the end of the movie and all that will be left on screen his the helmet with the hole in it and then roll credits

[@0ll312]

i dont want him to go 😢😢

[@QuiGonJack10]

This would be an interesting concept as it could be a good sacrifice for Scott to maybe save one of his love ones. But it will also be a good way to makes kang super intimidating. Showing that nobody is safe and anyone can die.

[@dangerfly]

What happens when most of the major players are gone and we don't care about the minors? It's already happening...

[@ninjanibba4259]

@@dangerfly what minors?

[@jonharrison3114]

@@ninjanibba4259 the ones in their basement

[@ninjanibba4259]

@@jonharrison3114 the ones R Kelly chained up? 4, 5, 6, 50? Didn’t let em eat, didn’t let em out?

[@hal-fling]

pretty sure that would automatically mean Cassie since I'm sure Hope wouldn't want him to save her on his daughter's expense

[@ishankumawat3306]

You are so right. How do you even predict all of this stuff? Will you make another theory from trailers?

[@Huehale]

ants man shrinks himself and hops up Kang's BuT HeY ThAtS JuSt a FiLm ThEoRy ~ MatPat 2022

[@A.J.TheRocker9000]

I feel like this is the best way to do it, but they’re going to have Hank Pym wear the costume again and him sacrifice himself, because he was Ant-Man also. And both him and Kang are both really smart, so there’s definitely room for rivalry in there as well.

[@UmbraKrameri]

Ohh, it would really pull on the heartstrings if Hank sacrificed himself for Scott in the end, given how rocky their relationship started.

[@darkestlight660]

Gotta say, the theory is feeling really solid this time around: You established a narrative argument A potential argument regarding spoilers And a comic tie in, it just feels extremely possible in a way that not every theory lands on

[@xenoking2739]

Yeah that’s what most of his Star Wars theories are. Sadly,none of them came true even tho they were so good

[@PengaYT]

@@xenoking2739 cuz disney literally started changing the movies midway 😂😂

[@Prebuilt_Room901]

The comic tie in doesn’t make a lot of sense. Cassie didn’t form the young avengers. They explain how nathaniel (iron lad and a young kang) used some avengers planning stuff for the young avengers and at the end of the first issue the only people on the team were Billy, Hulkling, Iron lad, and Patriot and Kate helped them but cassie didn’t help them until I think the next issue

[@fletchermtembo]

I've just started watching your videos and I love them. You're awesome you're a real conspiracy theorist but that's why you're funny Love the work🤘😂

[@TheRealKyloHen]

That would have made more sense then what happened

[@NETFLIXLOVING]

*Sad how there's an infinity of Kangs. One dies, another takes it's place. Sometimes smarter, dumber, stronger and weaker. So that Avengers are technically screwed without a overpowered weapon like the infinity Gautlet. The time platform or the Eternity!!*

[@thephony1651]

There are also infinite Avengers though.

[@thegamerhawk69]

makes a good story tho u can do a billion different things against kang and u can't overuse him bc hes infinite

[@smartyexplorer135]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH2ai4SXnb5jl8k Finally it's here.

[@vermemmeadsf]

@@thephony1651 secret wars

[@joshbrosh6626]

The only way to resolve this is an event called secret wars based on one of its stories where the multiverse is smashed into one universe creating batleworld

[@DzoDelinger]

The theory is very on point, especialy with Scot being in the last couple of titles, shown as celebrity and having a podcast, kind of hyping his caracter just to have him killed. It would make sence with phases splits, Phase 4 introduced a lot of new characters and potential Avengers, and Phase 5 should start killing them off one by one.

[@fiery_gamerz]

"Start killing them off one by one" WTF dude

[@Call_Upon_YAH]

Hey! Did you know God is three in one!? The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit! Bless him! Jesus died for our sins, rose from the dead, and gives salvation to everyone who has faith in him! True faith in Jesus will have you bear good fruit and *drastically* change for the better! Have a blessed day, everyone! ❤

[@Call_Upon_YAH]

Your worries (yes, anxiety), depression, suicidal thoughts, EVERYTHING will melt away and be NO MORE when you lean on God and put your trust in him! When I have physical pain, I literally pray and the Lord quells it, that I am healed! Know that there is power in the name Jesus Christ! His name casts out demons and heals! People are bothered by his name. The world hates the truth and wants to continue living sinfully! God's children are set apart (holy) and righteous.

[@vinodwasnik4]

@@Call_Upon_YAH give your releigious speech to someoen who needs it

[@murk4552]

@@fiery_gamerz just like the comics as Kang eventually fights the Young Avengers are ridding the whole OG team.

[@buddyboofhead1097]

Did you know that Tobey Maguire’s Spider-Man is part of the mcu because in the second one J.Jonah.Jameson says that the name doctor strange is already taken.

[@prathamsethi5935]

Not directly tho. But, via the multiverse for sure. That JJJ was another variant of MCU's JJJ. So, yeah it could be that another Doctor Strange exists in the raimiverse.

[@Jettfighter]

Does that mean there's multiple Bully Maguire's LOOLOOLLOL The multiverse would be in a world of pain! SOLOS ANYONE Even the most most over powered of Gods but alast it is only a meme

[@eLReyDiablo]

Major spoilers here. This time you nailed it good

[@DeadDancers]

Although I like spin-off stories about various characters, I’ve never had the slightest interest in ‘generational’ stories. It’s the original characters I care about. Stories about their kids always come off as lazy and ‘desperately trying to squeeze value out of the original story’ to me. I am vaguely curious how well the young avengers might do en mass.

[@rayannotryan551]

The young avengers and characters having someone take their place brings a lot of opportunities which marvel has done countless times in the comics thanks to all the different timelines and how they’re linked together so if it’s done well the mcu could be similar to the past but in a different way by bringing new and more intricate pieces of that multiverse so hopefully they’ll do a good job but if they don’t it’ll probably end up being repetitive

[@nojorooney]

Yeah no I couldn’t give 2 craps about the young avengers but I’m interested to see how this all plays out, I do hope the original avengers stick around for just a little while longer though but yeah I’m with you on this one

[@0910yoram]

The thing is that the Young Avengers are all their own character, yeah they are the young versions of the main but every member of the team also has their own personality and story (like billy+teddy, chavez etc). So thats why I enjoy the young avengers a lot actually

[@agereartist3763]

@@0910yoram Same also I love to see how they do as parents. Especially with all of their problems and flaws. It's pretty interesting to think about to be honest.

[@agereartist3763]

Also I feel while it can be done lazily (and you will most definitely immediately know when it is done lazily) but when done good it can feel like it's own story. Usually meaning despite not watching the previous movie(s)/show(s) you still (almost) completely understand every aspect of the movie especially parts that reference the past

[@writeon2593]

I like how you talked about these narrative patterns. As an aspiring writer myself, I find this stuff incredibly interesting.

[@smartyexplorer135]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH2ai4SXnb5jl8k Finally it's here.

[@supernukey419]

Question, have you ever been on TV Tropes?

[@HuneeBruh]

I’d suggest watching the channel “Overly Sarcastic Productions” they do a ton of stuff about narrative tropes and stuff, and they’re really funny

[@npcimknot958]

Do yourself a favor and do not copy anything from marvel lol

[@writeon2593]

@@HuneeBruh Already watch them, and love them!

[@TheGreenFlame13]

This Video Aged Well

[@TheEnderFrog]

well, this aged well.

[@CrashPG3D]

Marvel script writers: “Wow this script is amazing! No one’s see this coming!” MatPat: “I’m about to end this man’s whole career”.

[@liamphibia]

This aged well

[@CrashPG3D]

@@liamphibia did it? lmao I haven’t seen it

[@liamphibia]

@@CrashPG3D 🤐

[@_KaiTheGamer_]

13:13 missed chance to say "pull the Rudd out from beneath us"

[@LucusTheFern]

That’s what I’m saying

[@mlggamer5296]

This is my first film theory video ever watching mainly because I don't want to get spoiled about movies so I've been skeptical but since this theory is not really based on a particular movie that's out yet I'm willing to give the overall channel a chance. Also cosmic wonder sent me here.

[@chinox0079]

So Mattpatt i just wanted to say thanks for supplying the content its well appreciated but can you speak about the multiple issues and plot holes that have been in the inhumans?

[@Fist_Of_Khonshu]

Honestly I think it's much more likely that Hank Pym is the one to bite the dust

[@smartyexplorer135]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH2ai4SXnb5jl8k Finally it's here.

[@mr.falcon314]

This bots man

[@nicolassinisterra4895]

I’m almost disappointed in matpat. The opportunity to say that “Kang is gonna pull the “Rudd” out from under us” was right there

[@Firemaster27]

This aged like milk tbh Granted, this is a *theory* channel, so it was never 100%

[@smartjunkconspirator27]

"Hulkling pops off in she-hulk" he did have a cameo

[@worldssmallestdestron7819]

13:18 the best moment in MatPat's career.

[@PotatoGamingRL]

Fax

[@lilglitch8956]

Actually I think the “your an avenger, have I killed you before” line is not him knowing who the avengers are but rather taking the word avenger literally

[@m.c.martin]

Basically it’s both

[@ddgGaming-uq2mr]

We've been tricked, we've been backstabbed! And we've been quite possibly, bamboozled.

[@steviealbarne4247]

HWR: "You know you can't get to the end until you've been changed by the journey." Scott after Quantumania: "Hold my Baskin Robin's"

[@9tales9f]

13:25 smooth transition there

[@kammy6340]

The fact that Ant-Man even got a trilogy is a miracle in itself cause like how many people outside of comic book connoisseurs even knew ant man existed? I sure didn't. But now Ant-Man is one of my favorite characters. I'm looking forward to Ant Man 3. Let's hope your theory is wrong MatPatt. I don't want Ant-Man to go!! I love love that you're pointing out that the infinity saga took it's time to build up to Thanos. It's so annoying hearing people talking about Phase 4 being disconnected like anyone of us could have imagined that Phase 1 would have culminated in Endgame. Phase 4 is the new Phase 1 and I am here for the long haul. I can't wait to see how it all comes together.

[@piepi716]

I rewatched iron man and he says "this wil work for so and so years or could be a big energy source for 5 min" just like what happend in end game I thought it was so clever

[@t.j.1584]

Agreed. I too am here for it and I’m loving the build up to Kang and the other avengers movies. I have plenty of MCU projects I’m looking forward too.

[@rosestar1324]

I saw the most mightiest heros avenger cartoon from a while back so I knew who Ant Man was before the movie

[@6av321]

Love this theory. Would love also if you do a theory for Ms Marvel being a mutant which is different from the comics.

[@terrybreed8798]

I recently rewatched the DreamWorks film: El Dorado. And I recently thought about a scene in which Tulio and Miguel were fighting, and as they were bickering a volcano in the distance started erupting (the scene is quite obvious, no need for keen eyes). But once Tulip demanded to "stop," the volcanos eruption immediately halted and reversed its way back to being still. While that scene is not hidden and very brief it still rang in my head for a while.

[@Kanyewestbiggestfan123]

8:44 but Lego is the most powerful material known to man

[@ezio_Winchester]

With the leaked trailer at comic con having Kang saying to Scott after he says he is an avenger Kang asked "have I killed you before" if Scott was gonna die I don't think that line would be in the trailer

[@sbrock657]

I feel like that we're going to see Ant-Man from a different universe die before going to the 616 universe.

[@ezio_Winchester]

@@sbrock657 good call i didn't think about that

[@NeoNobody]

I actually wish this theory came true

[@gabethegallant2450]

Well this aged poorly.

[@MysteryMusic512]

Ant Man is my favorite superhero, it would break my heart if he died in this movie. If he does, he better get a pretty heroic death. My only other hope is that this movie isn’t filled with jokes for first graders the whole time (cough cough Love and Thunder) it would ruin a heroic death or a death in general.

[@darthyoda8170]

The tone of this movie looked much more serious from the leaked trailer

[@MysteryMusic512]

@@darthyoda8170 let’s hope so 😂

[@johnman8398]

I don't see how the jokes could ruin a death, say what you will about the humour but whenever something as serious as a major death happens it is never undercut by a joke and idk why people forget this.

[@Tranquility._]

The antman movies know when to be serious and when to be funny unlike love and thunder which is 99% jokes

[@MysteryMusic512]

@@Tranquility._ yeah, the Ant Man films have gotta be the most underrated movies in the MCU.

[@blumkeet]

"Antman shrinks himself and jumps up Kang's... BUT HEY THAT'S JUST A THEORY" A very underrated line lmao 💀💀

[@dreamer1ish]

The fact but hey also sounds like it's the same sentence-

[@erikvilla8367]

Just like he killed thanos supposably ☠️

[@zulfiqarhaziq4217]

Who’s here after watching Ant-man and the Wasp:Quantumania

[@bahahhag]

Man, this actually makes sense. I didn’t even know about those shirts but that seems very possible now that I know. I think this video also helps anyone who doesn’t believe that the mcu doesn’t currently have a direction because it definitely does.

[@dstranger]

I definitely doubt Scott will die and instead it'll be Hank that dies, so the only thing this theory is riding on is a face expression that is done during a talk show.. for all we know the dude was thinking of Hanks time as Antman

[@kaine8911]

It also rides on storytelling and the source material

[@rosestar1324]

Which the movies don't follow. The infinity stones (some of the most powerful objects in the comics) have been reduced to paper weights in the movies.

[@CarloKC]

I’ve gotta feeling this video isn’t gonna age well

[@yuumc3030]

Lol ya

[@JacobHGamez]

Lol

[@jaquanbrown5324]

They’re not killing off Paul Rudd anytime soon😂

[@SamaX1010]

let's wait and see but yeah.

[@Shori948]

Just like the others have said, the most likely to die is the "other" Ant-Man (Hank Pym)

[@bradmcdavid2837]

welp you’ll get it next time matpat

[@shadophaxx2401]

After the most recent trailer, this is feeling way more likely RIP scott :' (

[@hubbiemid6209]

Wait so you’re telling me we’re supposed to fear Kang but he’s a reasonable matchup for the young avengers??

[@royrogers3133]

Lol

[@LeeoJohnsonTV]

I don't think he's a reasonable match-up. He's their first villain because he's the reason them become a team. He still has inifinte variants of himself.

[@nutsi3]

13:15 ‘Unless ant man shrinks down and goes up kang’s but hey…’

[@lagging2127]

Matpat watching ant man 3 for: ❌ for enjoying ✅ for theory

[@AyyIts_Nick]

“And hops up Kang’s BUUUUT HEY THAT S JUST A THEORY, a FILM THEORY….. AAAAAND CUT.” Way to dodge guidelines MatPat. 😂

[@thatsomari]

I would say Hank dies over Scott tbh, as a self sacrifice to save Scott, Janet, Hope and Cassie.

[@Just_Some_Gal]

Matpat, you've been ruining our childhoods since 2011, and we've enjoyed every single year of it 😉

[@randybaumery5090]

Wait until life ruins your adulthood.

[@warpednight]

He’s not gonna die, and here’s why. So basically this movie takes place before Endgame correct? Yep. So using this logic, he isn’t gonna die. But I think Hank or Janet will lmao

[@prathamsethi5935]

@@warpednight Nope, it takes place after Endgame. Obviously Ant-Fam except Janet wasn't aware of Kang during the events of the 'Infinity Saga.'

[@reggielauderdale7332]

​@@warpednight no dummy

[@warpednight]

@@reggielauderdale7332 💀

[@alexerthelogerfan3581]

Hey Mat, Quick question, is the game Toons universe and my EIOL or experiment and invise of legal projects factory are connected into the same universe, I really wanna know if they’re connected

[@v0ids.]

hey mattpat! i was wondering if you could make a video covering "The Van Gundy Show". its a very unpopular analog horror series but it's very interesting.

[@TPG_Plagues]

Now that you mention it. The fact that Kang asked him if he's killed him before , is probably foreshadow his death

[@justanotherhumanbeing7898]

Kevin Feige: *calling* The Script Writers of Ant Man: Yes Feige: Change the script Script Writers: Again? Feige: He guessed it (Hopefully I spelled Feige’s name right)

[@AbhiAbhinath]

Scott's variant will be killed .616 antman is being asked by kang for a help in the trailer,that other variants cant provide.what that might be?Maybe that help can keep him alive.

[@syberyah]

Can you do a video on where Vibranium would fit in the periodic table/something along those lines? I'm a dork who has recently become fascinated by the periodic table and I really wanna know how that would work too lol

[@Blaze4ification]

What about Guardians 3? Could that be a pinch? Granted that's before you mentioned the leaked helmet, but maybe Antman and any of his team members don't die, what if it's from Guardians side? Also why not the original Antman instead of Scott? Maybe Hank Pym? Though you do make a lot of good points, guess I just don't want to see Paul Rudd leave.

[@vinodwasnik4]

The pinch points needs to come from kang the big bad but the guardians will probably die by the highevolutionary so that won't be a pinch point.

[@Blaze4ification]

@@vinodwasnik4 Thanks for you input, I don't know the comics much, so don't know the high evolutionary. I suppose yeah it wouldn't be impactful in the universe of Marvel, just us the fans to see them die, which yeah probably be all of them, they're all about family, they held hands to help Peter channel the infinity stone, to wake him up from his dad's alluring words and godhood, if they go out it would either be together or just him. Making up for losing Gamora, making up for losing his adoptive and better father, to pay them back for always helping him now it's his time to help them is how I could see it, but yeah together or never is probably how it will go down.

[@itsparke]

This got me thinking about the entire MCU, across ALL networks (Disney+, Universal, Netflix, etc...) and was curious if MatPat and crew had thought about putting together a proper watch order for everything that has been released and everything that is to be released in the future. I think that would make a great episode.

[@SsbPrime]

its already on disney plus. just switch ant man the wasp with infinity war and you're good

[@dtaylorondabeat]

@@SsbPrime I mean those movies are allowed to flip flop solely because of the end credits scene in ant man, they take place at the same time

[@SsbPrime]

@@dtaylorondabeat which is why ant man and the wasp comes after infinity war

[@halfdeadwizard1009]

Complete MCU Timeline, including the old shows fake MCU fans try to call non canon even though they were better than the D+ shows. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mofMo6OXoZuVoZI

[@eur0be4t3r]

I think there’s an official watch order or it’s just the order of release since Iron Man 1

[@Cutiejea1]

the only thing Matpat got right was: Scott: Im an avenger Kang: Have i killed you before

[@23bruh1]

it would have probably been a better ending than the one we got

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

Remember the time when Ant-Man sacrificed himself by shoving himself into Thanos' cheeks and grew into big size? Good times.

[@smartyexplorer135]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH2ai4SXnb5jl8k Finally it's here..

[@michaelsingh8487]

Personally, I really hope that the Power pack makes an appearance in the MCU, either as a movie or a short series. The basic background points have already been set up, with She-Hulk: Attorney at Law presumably leading to the creation of Kamala's Law, which prevents the action of underage superheroes without a mentor. This in itself is important since the Power Pack are one of the few young superheroes tied to the Avengers (there were some crossovers with Iron Man, Spider Man, Hulk, etc. ) who don't have an official mentor. Thanks for coming to my TedTalk. The Power Pack has become a recent fan-favorite of mine, and I really hope it gets some representation. (Also there was a crossover with Moon Girl, whom is getting her own series, soooo)

[@MiloMurphysLaw]

I just recently found out that the Power Pack existed, like within the past few days. I do think it would be cool to see them show up in the MCU at some point. But unfortunately I’m pretty sure the Moon Girl show won’t be connected to the MCU. So, even though I’m now hoping for them to show up in that series, they would still have to have a separate introduction in the MCU.

[@cwimsonplays]

"A FILM THEORYYYY... and cut!" Me proceeding to slowly realise every film theory matt gets right is actually just a spoiler 😭

[@heather3389]

I don’t know where to ask this but could you guys do a video on the lore of Indila’s music videos? I know there’s some lore in those videos, I watched them all and there’s always some sort of connection to one of her other videos. She’s a French artist and I just found out about her and love her songs!