Film Theory: Beauty and the Beast's OVERLOOKED Tragedy

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For years, we've always thought that the Beast in Beauty and the Beast was made into a monster so he could learn a lesson about respecting others and loving people for what's on the inside...but we've been wrong the whole time! Dissecting the film's lore, it becomes clear that the Beast isn't the evil prince he was made out to be, but actually just a little boy who was deceived at a time in his life when he was the most vulnerable. Fans of Beauty and the Beast have loved this story for so long...but have overlooked ONE crucial plot detail!
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[@veronicalawson9321]

Me as a child: well that's what happens when you judge someone for their appearance. Adult me: so you cursed an 11 year old child just for turning you away when you are a stranger at night? And to top it off you curse everyone in the castle as well? And you are supposed to be a good fairy? Lady I think you have problems.

[@majormana1]

Actually more likely 9 or 10 yr old. Math isn't Matt's strong suit. Probaly on his 10th birthday given fact he turned 21 on roof

[@donymarzuki7599]

Moral of the story: when you find a stranger at your door at night, it's probabbly best to get an adult to answer it.

[@CJ-sp6lh]

Miss Amanda's world ‘maths isnt matts strong suit’ lmao im DEAD

[@mukumataruse5171]

To be fair he said at most eleven , but you're right though

[@andrewmarcelo3425]

Mental problems even

[@gurglequeen433]

Even if the Beast was older when this went down, it was smart to turn he enchantress away. He's a prince, heir to the throne, you don't just let some random stranger into your castle. They could have been an assassin or something.

[@andersgustafsson5533]

Or worse, a sorceress...

[@timurthejerk9270]

Or even worse I.R.S

[@insertusernamehere8324]

WELL NO DUH!!!! What would any logical person do in this situation? It screams of STRANGER DANGER!!!!!

[@gurglequeen433]

@@insertusernamehere8324 I guess that's the thing though, Fairy Tails don't run on modern day logic. Though Disney did create that plot hole themselves.

[@cathiaaskew1106]

Or even worse... a hungry Hispanic woman

[@pandagacha7620]

"Every last inch of me is coverd in hair" yet he doesn't have a beard

[@starlightseason1462]

Lol ROASTED!!!

[@treintaydos4830]

Nor arm hair

[@ellieb.1231]

And I mean, you can SEE his forehead. Eyes, ears… So hyperbole is CLEARLY a thing. Not like I myself ever casually say I've been friends with someone "for a decade" when it's like seven years. No, people NEVER do that. 🙄

[@ellieb.1231]

Also, Lumière CLEARLY has NO reason to *exaggerate* for sympathy. None!

[@punkwrestle]

Ellie B. But given that the prince still had to find true love before he turned 21 means that if they were in that state for more than 4 years, it should have been met with youthful indiscretion... Also the Character Gaston is known for his boasting, Lumiere is not.

[@adellemacleay5131]

Personally i think that the enchantress is evil because a. whos going to let a random stranger into their home? b. she cursed all he servants who had done nothing wrong c. she made it virtually impossible for the beast to break the curse by making everyone forget about the kingdom, setting a time limit, and making it so that the girl has to love him in return. he can't control if someone loves him back for gods sake. and isn't the point for him to learn to love?

[@revolvingworld2676]

And getting a girl to love you becomes even more impossible after she turns hin into a beast. I genuinely think the fairy never intended him to break the curse.

[@amyness3452]

On point a, ESPECIALLY when this seems to be set right around the French Revolution. The powers that were, were probably busy hiding for their lives. So intentionally letting a peasant in is just stupid and potentially suicidal.

[@littledudefromacrossthestr5755]

Ikr

[@truches7509]

@@amyness3452 yea, I think why we don't see his parents was bc his parents were beheaded before the situation. The old lady most likely hated royals(like basically every peasant in france) and cursed him so they could suffer.

[@user-pi3hd2bt3f]

Its even worse since in some versions of this tale he and all the utensils dont just stay like this forever after the rose wilts away, they all die when that happens

[@Nerdicaful]

I hold this theory as a fact. The witch that turns him was hateful as hell, punishing this little boy...for being a little boy! He fucked up! And it makes sense given how innocent the Beast is throughout the movie. He's very awkward with everything, because mentally, he's still pretty much a kid. He never got that chance to grow and develop -with- his age, since it pretty much stopped once he was transformed. Which makes Belle considerably older and wiser in a sense. She basically has to take care of him and show him the ropes. She has to show him how to be an adult because he never learned how as a Beast.

[@BewareofBordome]

+Nerdicaful I love this theory, because fairy folk are usually depicted as vengeful and petty in folklore. Or to have another Disney movie example, let's compare her to Maleficent. She cursed a helpless baby to die in her teens, just because her Parent's didn't invite her to her boring-ass christening. The only reason she isn't dead is because the last fairy lightened the sentence to a Century sleep. I'm guessing Maleficent and this Fairy hung out in the same circles.

[@AnsticePalo]

+Nerdicaful Not to mention that he lives in a castle. Usually if a child lives in a castle his parents have already arranged his marriage before the poor thing has pubes.

[@DogAndEazy]

+AnsticePalo haha you have made me laugh :p

[@eattheasslikeitsgrass5113]

+Nerdicaful i believe what your saying is true. THE BEAST WAS AN 11 YEAR OLD WHO WAS DOING WHAT AN 11 YEAR OLD SHOULD DO IN HIS SITUATION. the beast was an 11 year old kid who didn't let -an enchantress- a witch who weirdly enough, dressed up as an old lady and asked a kid who was alone at his castle if she can stay at his castle, and was going to reward him with a rose. a child his age would have said no in the first place, and the enchantress cursed him anyway for doing the right thing. he might of not done it just because he thought the enchantress looked like an old hag. he was probably doing the thing a kid of his age should of done, getting cursed anyway. how was he supposed to find a girl who would truly love him if he was in his castle for 10 years and if he was to go into the village and try to find a girl who was like belle, every girl would run away from him, and every man would try to kill him. he never got to socialize, talk to people, or talk to women his age. the enchantress is the evil one to me because she ruined the life of an 11 year old for 10 years of his life (during puberty)

[@andrew45622]

+Nerdicaful This really doesn't make any sense. As he said, Cogsworth should have been the one to answer the door, and in all likely hood was. When the woman asked to come in Cogsworth would have had to call the prince to the door to ask his permission before allowing her to enter because the prince is the master of the house. He would have had an adult in next to him to make him feel comfortable and safe so the decision to cast her out wouldn't have been made because he was afraid of her. Also, back in those times, everything and everyone was disgusting. At wedding in today's times men walk on the right side of the woman holding her right hand with his left hand. This tradition originated because buildings were on the right of the streets and when people used chamber pots (buckets to piss and shit in) they would throw them out the window and onto the street below. It was considered the man's duty to stand between the woman he was with and the human waste that fell. The intro song where Belle avoids the water being poured out of the house by holding her hand up to deflect it is supposed to represent how she could could have life easier if she had a husband. (They also cleaned it up by making it just water) The prince seeing someone who looked ugly shouldn't have put him off enough to be afraid because truthfully, that was the norm. The last thing I would need to say is that most people back then died before they were twenty. He was already middle aged when this happened. People of eleven were treated just about like adults. Even if we today wouldn't think that way, the society of the time would have viewed him as capable of making that decision. He wouldn't have the "I'm a kid so I don't know what's going on." card to play back then.

[@tyrantqiu5440]

She curses him by growing up as a monster.... As if puberty didn't suck enough

[@meinennamensagichnet]

Maybe it is about puperty. You'll get hair all over, be overdramatic and think your life will end if you don't find a mate soon...

[@Octernity_]

Amen to that

[@abbyfetcko3132]

What I don’t get that

[@lunarwolf2291]

If he is a beast and he also had to go through puberty since he is technically half beast and half human, more beasty but still, how did he manage to make it through that?! @-@ Beast instincts and puberty..... oh ma gawd does he have a mating season too?!

[@amywest2820]

XD

[@katlovedart]

It makes even more sense if you stop to think about when the story takes place. It take place in the French countryside roughly 10 years after the french revolution. It as absolute plusable that his parents were killed in the beheadings, thus leaving the servants to raise him. That would then mean that he wouldn't have EVEN KNOW HIS PARENTS, since he would have been one at the start of the French Revolution. Knowing that this takes place shortly after the start of the revolution would also explain why the enchantress was so cruel to him. The common people of France didn't like the royals AT ALL(hence the beheadings). She was simple looking for a reason to punish a young prince, a young BOY, who was born in the wrong place, in the wrong time. But that's just a theory, a COMMENT THEORY! Hope you enjoyed. Also, let me know what you think, this is my first comment theory.

[@getnoobed8125]

Noice

[@getnoobed8125]

Rlly good

[@leamcclain1648]

Good point.

[@emberguard5009]

Yeah makes sense. She may have come to test the boy and make sure he’s a better ruler then the parents

[@ImranKhan-sj5ji]

Dope theory

[@brokenandcraked]

You probably said it as a joke, but I am so sick and tired of people saying belle falls for the beast because of Stockholm syndrome. In the movie, belle stands up to the beast. Calling him out for his bad behaviour. So the beast realises that he has been acting like a jerk and works on his temper. He grows as a person and starts to empathise with other people. That is why belle falls for him. She sees his caring personality come out.

[@batgirl5751]

You are absolutely correct. Although, I would argue that although this is not a case of Stockholm Syndrome, and is instead a case of a long-running romance trope: Abduction As Romance. There's a video by the channel Pop Culture Detective that breaks down the trope perfectly, I've put the link below if you want to check it out - kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmnbfWqtZrWCkJI

[@imsadlol4528]

nah it’s stockholm syndrome

[@gin5780]

I don't know much about Stockholm syndrome and I respect your opinion, but I think if you were kidnapped, no matter what happens or the kidnapper's personality, a reasonable sane person wouldn't naturally fall in love with said kidnapper. Especially since he treated her so badly in the first half of the movie. It might've been a mix of both though. It could've been weak feelings of attraction or sympathy being emphasized by Stockholm syndrome as well.

[@Readingrebel]

@brokenandcracked Thank you! If anyone is confused about what Stockholm Syndrome is, or just likes smart commentary on BatB (and other Disney films), Lindsay Ellis has a great video: Is Beauty and the Beast About Stockholm Syndrome?

[@the_12th_bro123]

@@gin5780 But he didn't technically kidnap her did he? I mean Belle went to save her father, and agreed to STAY as his prisoner, I guess that could count but Idk

[@Marie45610]

Maybe that sorceress is evil. She also seems to have wiped the memory of the Prince from the villages minds as everyone seemed really surprised to find a castle in the woods.

[@devilovesdevil]

Marie exactly! I always wanna know why everyone doesnt know there is a big cadtle there

[@JuanRojas-ex8kb]

Marie maybe ;)

[@jonquilgemstone]

+Cpn. Beartato I personally believe they thought the royal family was either very laissez-faire or mysteriously disappeared. The thought that a Beast could have slaughtered them would have given them reason to think he was a threat. Note that everyone knew the way to the castle WITHOUT any instructions. Maurice and Belle would not have known because they had only recently moved to that village :).

[@devilovesdevil]

Jonquil Gemstone true true!! i also thought it was cuz it was part of the curse or something but i like what you think

[@tugfa0]

(Pls add this to the theory too)

[@FrankLightheart]

You know, it's funny. Even when I was a kid and I saw this movie for the first time, I was struck by the Beast's lack of manners or even basic knowledge of table edicate. Sure, he'd been a beast most of his life, but he should at least know how people eat at the table from the memories he's had as a human. Especially a prince of all people! But if the prince had been ten or eleven years old when he first got cursed, then it all makes sense. The beast doesn't know how to eat like a human because he was too young to remember it before he was transformed. Bell had to teach him everything about human interaction.

[@majormana1]

He knows how but physically doing it as beast the table ,anners would be difficult. And after sktuation with enchantress he didn't know how to handle Maurice

[@FrankLightheart]

Miss Amanda's world Crazy old Maurice, huh? Craaazy old Maurice....

[@majormana1]

FrankLightheart HI don't thin. Prince Adam aka the beast saw Maurice as crazy but do to enchantress he didn't want to turn a guy whom was little older into the cold even when let him go he in his way made sure he had safe way.to get home. he was embarrassed hence the temper at the start he had succeeded in keeping himself hidden for 10yrs.

[@pizzawashere8940]

Whilst I believe in this theory since the evidence is right there in the movie, why when they are telling the story the prince is designed as an adult. You could say that was an incorrect portrayal of what actually happened. But there is a painting of him that he claws which definitely shows that he is older than 11, a teenager at most. How was this plot point overlooked?

[@mada4368]

+Pizza was here well probably cause it's a disney movie and they can't make it seem too cruel so they design him as an adult to mislead people from the fact that he was a child.

[@Darkside12...]

Imagine growing up that way, being alone, and feeling more worthless than normal in the crucial years of development. Not only that, but he also had no one to properly raise him since everyone was a teapot or something. That's gotta be some serious PTSD.

[@feiwnakausvkaxbdkebkswowbq8331]

Imagine him trying to hug them or play with them just makes the story even more sad

[@jaykilbourne1110]

@@feiwnakausvkaxbdkebkswowbq8331 Thats.... god that makes it even worse. He'd be so strong even as a tot just trying to be kind could be deadly for the now enchanted servants.

[@jlmmedia09]

Watching this in 2020, it definitely feels weird watching a 5 min film theory, compared to the 15 minute theories of today.

[@antoniaalabama2234]

ikr

[@bagofmoss4710]

Right?! I was so caught off guard when it ended so shortly

[@julieh1817]

i was so confused as to how he got to his point so fast omg

[@bcmoore671]

SAMMEEE

[@elanorcoblentz3296]

Same

[@butterflygirl2332]

funny thing, I have a book that is a twisted version of Beauty and the beast (yes it's a disney book, it's called As old as time) that actually acnowleges this. they declare the sorsceres crazy because she did this.

[@KaylaBarrios]

Omg I have that book

[@salthesock1546]

I have it. It’s so good!! I have 4 of them. As old as time- Beauty and the Beast Let it go- Frozen Part of your world- The little Mermaid And the Aladdin one (I forgot the name)

[@zaratheunicorn5679]

Galaxy Potato wait Isint the frozen one Conceal don’t feel And the Aladdin one is A Whole New World..

[@salthesock1546]

Zara The Unicorn no, the frozen one is Let it Go because I got it for Christmas, but thanks for reminding me of the Aladdin one. 😁👍

[@catherineparr5817]

I have mother knows best ( Mother Gothels backstory )

[@khlo9900]

The prince got turned into a beast because he wouldn't let a creepy stranger into his house who just so happened to knock on his door in the middle of the night while it was raining.

[@undeadmercenary2080]

@Jade Snavely I don't know - maybe any sane person?

[@hannahwu7526]

I feel bad for him ... I actually very agree to this theory

[@d0stoevsky_enjoyer]

Man, if I had a dime for every time that happened…I’d be broke

[@kjn-s2336]

He was 10/11

[@aetherneedsbuff1294]

@JM Reyes ARMY REVELUV Don't you think that if Snowhites stepmother really could turn snowhite into an ugly biest just like that she would?

[@Double_Jae]

1:38 I don’t know bout you Matt, but personally I tend to eat with a knife and fork rather than a clock and candlestick. You do you matpat, you do you.

[@zoe1315]

This is underrated.

[@phonn6935]

*cutlery*

[@cristobalarniotis9020]

I never realised till you pointed it out

[@elijamjar._.717]

Who else agrees that the beast was way cuter as a beast not a human, like human beast is like, not as cute as beast him, Edit: I’m not a furry this is just my opinion 😂

[@aetherneedsbuff1294]

When I first saw the human, I just didn't understand why she changed him. He wasnt that beautiful either way.

[@sleepy.1103]

Yeah.. I love facial hair and as a beast he was hawt. But then... meh

[@circleception6026]

In the live action movie especially, they look so weird as ppl...

[@Attackontrashcan]

To me the beast looks like a big puppy so...(I just wanna pet him he looks kinda like my dog)

[@bananasaging9234]

Thank god i'm not the only one

[@bullypinscherart7023]

Literally no one is going to see this comment, but I want to put my two cents in. By your logic, Chip would have been born a teacup. He is less than ten years old, but still reminisces about being a human boy. The minimum age Chip would have to be is 13 to remember being a human boy and not a human baby. Therefore I think that the spell slows down the aging process, or something similar.

[@yunee5218]

Woah 👏👏👏

[@lesliesackey2515]

They actually explain in the live action I think about how the spell stopped them from aging. (Don’t quote me on that)

[@urdadsleftasshole69]

*when Belle finds out the Beast's true age* _FBI OPEN UP-_

[@vxctxm211]

The painting of the prince is not of an 11 year old boy, just saying.

[@vxctxm211]

@ThatOneAsianBroChick Yeah, I initially thought that could possibly be the case but we see what he looks like at the end of the movie as a human. I guess he could just be a carbon copy of his father.

[@mathmaticalguy9994]

But matpat those are song lyrics they might just be hyperbolic representations of real story elements.

[@thevagabond1314]

MATHMATICAL GUY wow

[@richie_23]

wow

[@LingPTO]

WOW

[@SweetflyRachel]

Wow

[@gelliarts2104]

Wow, what a well articulated response for the KZbin comments section!

[@codelerias]

"He's just a little kid who never got a chance to grow up" Me: *FNAF Intensifies*

[@sivaranjani3860]

What's FNAF

[@codelerias]

@@sivaranjani3860You can't be serious.

[@sivaranjani3860]

@@codelerias I really don't know...

[@codelerias]

@@sivaranjani3860 There are tons of FNAF videos on Game Theory. That should help :)

[@bruh5688]

@@sivaranjani3860 horror game

[@Emberilliance]

Wasn't this theory basically confirmed in Beauty and the Beast: The Enchanted Christmas when they showed the actual flashback of the Prince as a boy?

[@intergalacdab9191]

yea pretty much whether or not you see the straight-to-dvd sequels as canon they pretty much acknowledge their plotholes and continuity errors in those films

[@macossomedia]

@@intergalacdab9191 like witch ones

[@Kyolover8]

@@intergalacdab9191 there's also the fact that the live action remake tried to backtrack and fix the "plot hole" by saying everything was frozen in time at the castle and everyone was made to forget them.

[@nickimesser2659]

When Belle goes to the West Wing, there are broken mirrors and furniture. I think the real tragedy is that now a child basically has super strength, no love or moral support, one way or another, he cracks. That's why the servants fear him so much instead of just avoiding him, and why the Beast won't allow anyone in that area. He was ashamed of what he'd done.

[@InfernosReaper]

Nicki Messer which might have been murder a bunch of servants. We'll never know

[@nickimesser2659]

InfernosReaper True, it's kind of amazing how much detail movies can give and leave some threads for people to try and tie together.

[@Yemto]

InfernosReaper Well the castle must have been furnished before the curse, so I imagine those things was never alive.

[@InfernosReaper]

Yemto Which begs the question, "did the servants get turned into furniture or merged into furniture?"

[@JoyfullJuneBugg]

InfernosReaper I think they were turned into furniture because the beast was a boy before he was turned.

[@minttea9140]

PLEASEPLEASEPLEASEEEE MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT CORALINE,IT HAS SO MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS PLSS YOU MAKE LITERALLY THE BEST THEORY VIDEOS

[@kr0sswalk]

oh yeah plss do I'll subscribe and give you emoji thumbs up for all your vids👍

[@bethanythiele7290]

YES that' such a good idea! mmmmmmmmmmmmmpls

[@janigutierrez3629]

YEP, WE NEED IT

[@SCP-2295]

!!!! I NEE D IT

[@3arth2mo]

YES please please please!

[@aquamarineancientsoul7893]

Wait, the PRINCE opened the door??

[@cool_kai3298]

aquamarine ancient soul ?

[@lucidrii1490]

@@cool_kai3298 I mean, it could've been the butler or the maid who opened the door. Why would the PRINCE do that?

[@redfox1353]

@@lucidrii1490 he wanted a cookie from the fridge

[@lyndseystrait1513]

Yeah fr pretend u aren’t home or something LOL

[@zoedatgurl1147]

Hes 11 it could be self defense stranger danger plus ur not supposed to talk to strangers

[@Confuzledish]

I think the more poignant question is, "What's the deal with Chip?" Judging by his mannerisms he is probably six or seven years old. So how the hell could he be a teacup if the curse was applied ten years ago? There are two explanations. The first is that tea pots can get pregnant and have babies. Which I find rather disturbing to think about. The second is that Chip was 6/7 when the curse was applied and the curse prevented him from aging. Meaning that Chip we see in the film is actually 16/17, and when he returns to human form he is a young adult in a child's body. Either way it's messed up.

[@Masterphalen]

Confuzledish Well teacups dont really age like people so its probably the latter. But I'm hoping that the teapots can make sweet babies by the fire.

[@Confuzledish]

Confuzledish I mean, that's not to go into all the other numerous questions about the movie. Where are the Beasts parents? Why has no one noticed that the 'royal family' suddenly is gone? Why does Beast have an artist rendition of himself as an adult when he got cursed at 11? What's with all the faceless plates, utensils, hundreds of other teacups, etc.?

[@Masterphalen]

Confuzledish All good questions

[@semiengima]

Confuzledish I don't know who would knock up an old woman, maybe that day someone abandoned a baby and he started off as a thimble before burning into a teacup? I dunno man...

[@Zarggg]

Confuzledish All kidding about "applying logic to fairy tales" aside, the most likely situation is that all the castle staff became ageless when they were transformed. Ergo, Chip was probably six or seven when he was turned into a teacup, and remained that age until the curse was broken, after which point he started aging normally again, i.e., not magically turned into a 16-year-old boy.

[@animagusurreal]

In the stage version, it's mentioned that the servants were cursed because they somehow played a part in making the prince spoiled and selfish. Apparently including Chip, (who was at most a newborn infant when the curse was cast), and the dog. Yeah, what did the dog do to deserve to be turned into a footstool?

[@animagusurreal]

animagusurreal (Actually, the dog isn't present in the stage version, but if we count that as a possible explanation for the film as well...seriously, what did the dog do to make the prince more spoiled?!)

[@NantesdeAbreu]

+animagusurreal He is a Dog. He probably did not even realized he was turned into anything. And Chip was turned because a childreen is suposed to stay with his parents. If he stayed a normal kid he would die in the forest probably killed by the wolfs or starvation.

[@majormana1]

Actually do to factChip is 7 at most as human child at end of movie he looks 5 to me he had to be conceived after the curse.

[@bloop1100]

+Miss Amanda's world OR they simply didn't age - at least in the human sense - during those ten years.

[@majormana1]

Winter Phoenix Bbut we never see a male tea pot.

[@DrSeuss1901]

I’m not sure if anyone else commented this, but I’d assume the evil sorceress changed everyone else into household objects so they couldn’t leave the castle to help him find someone to love, so they’d all be cursed forever.

[@forg7528]

Ahh, the good o’l days when theory’s where 6 and a half minutes

[@jeffsampson5822]

I wish it was longer.

[@kyradavis9344]

My family and I came to this conclusion while watching the film for the first time in years. I feel worse for the beast than ever. He was only a child. What a monster that sorceress was.

[@majormana1]

She was a sorcress despite disney trying to play her off as enchantress. She just mean and kind of wicked

[@Gabreya]

I agree.

[@romiettia9714]

Kyra Davis same

[@generalzar0ff]

I guess you could say that the sorceress was the real beast the whole time.

[@ChrellMax]

Kyra Davis yeah

[@chrisramsey471]

This isn't so much a theory as it is what ACTUALLY occurred. In the end, he was right not to let her in because she was a villain! I would LOVE to see this movie remade, Maleficent style, where it puts the twist on the story and makes it not be so black and white and obviously wrong. Also, a good point I saw in another video is Belle never had Stockholm Syndrome. It says that people suffering from S.S. behave much more complacently, would not outright argue or disagree with their captor, like she does often, and would NEVER willingly leave their side, like she did a handful of times. The theory actually states that Belle and Beast's relationship is much MORE healthy than any other Disney movie since it isn't based on infatuation or "love at first sight" (Ariel), They actually took time to get to know one another (Snow White), and no weird sleep-creep fetish (Aurora)... oh, and they are not still children (Ariel, Mulan, Snow White... all of the others, pretty much.)

[@bri9216]

I agree with most of your points. But Mulan is not a kid, you know. She is old enough to get married. In fact, her story is one of the best movies Disney has ever made.

[@chrisramsey471]

Yeah, Mulan was one of my favorites, so I agree to a point, but in early Asian culture (actually most cultures) in the year 400 (around when Mulan took place), they began getting paired off and married by 14 or 15, which is how old she would be when going to see the matchmaker. Granted people usually died around 40, so everything happened younger back then, so in Mulan's case I'll say she gets a pass since it was fairly normal.

[@assassin6851]

+Katniss Prior I would like to point out that back then people would marry off 12 year olds. It wasn't always where you could only marry around 17 or 18. Once you were fertile for sex you were married off to some guy who would benefit the family.

[@anorasolo]

#ButtleFail

[@redsquirrel6131]

+Katniss Prior but Mulan is not and never was a Princess. Not sure why she is called one considering she was never royalty. I wouldn't wanna be noted amongst those prissy simmering useless vapid little...Ok I could go on forever....

[@justzidniy3372]

Gaston:every inch of me's covered with hair Beast:oh really

[@kari7403]

Even as a little kid, I had always thought it was incredibly messed up for the old witch to have cursed all of The Beast's staff, along with him! I'm sure they had already endured plenty of torment and misery from working under him pre hairy days. What she did to The Beast's staff is *WAY* worse than The Beast's unacceptable behavior of just being a selfish, cold hearted, apathetic, jerk of a beast. Why would she think its okay to condemn all of his servents, too? And *CHIP!!!* For God's sake man! She cursed a *CHILD!!!* How could that kid have EVER deserves that?!?! That is one bitter and nasty old hag of a sorceress, or witch. I can only imagine what she would do if they for her order wrong in McDonald's drive through! Sheesh.

[@entityredstoneonyt]

The beast was also a child. Did you even SEE the theory?

[@dafilmqueen556]

Suddenly, I want to call the FBI out on the witch or really any fictional police organization that are experts in detaining psychopathic magic weilding witches. May she be called out on her wickedness and be executed for her crimes. It would be fitting karma if she also got cursed by her own magic and became an inanimate object just like she did to the others. Best cruel punishment for an evil crueler witch..

[@rosestar1324]

She didn't mind cursing one child. What's a few more?

[@Rabbit_Films]

"Once I was 11 years old, my daddy told me: 'Go make yourself a wife or you'll be lonely.' "

[@wateryourhouseplants3973]

Love that reference

[@Rabbit_Films]

You'd be surprised.

[@eddstactitudcaribe8046]

7 years old lukas

[@Rabbit_Films]

edd st hm?

[@eddstactitudcaribe8046]

rabbit91210 lukas graham 7 years

[@eventplanner461]

I think the real question is why did the enchantress even come to the castle in the 1st place?Sure the story tells you she needed shelter,but if she really needed it so badly why didn't she just poof one up herself seeing that she was all powerful.She had no problem transforming into an old lady,then back,then performing a curse. Also what made her think transforming into an old ugly hag would increase her chances of getting shelter? So u mean to tell me she just got bored and decided to test people to see if they were kind or not. What a waste.

[@ysabellafranco8118]

It's because she wanted to test someone's kindness. :)

[@danielsolomon3794]

But Be Our Guest is a practiced number. Its obvious that for those ten years all they've been doing is practicing for when a guest comes. Also Lumiere exaggerates about everything. He designed those lyrics to be an easily sung number. Plus he is pampered and his parents left him. AND LASTLY THE BIGGEST REASON OF ALL! This is a long time ago! THERE WAS NO POWER RANGERS! In other words how old did a boy have to be to get married? THE AVERAGE DEATH AGE FOR MEN WAS AROUND 25! HAH! I WIN!

[@Gemmard98]

Imani Mbibouth alright don't get ahead of yourself! 😂 it's just a movie

[@eventplanner461]

Gemma Richardson-Dodd lol tru 😂

[@talatala3755]

you don't win HAH! I WIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@DamonNomad82]

When Beauty and the Beast (animated, as opposed to the live action remake that I call "Hermione and the Beast") was first released, I was all of nine years old, but I did the math, and figured out that the enchantress was the real villain of the story. At that age, I didn't make the connection that the beast was immature because of this, though.

[@evn3585]

I love that. #hermioneandthebeast

[@ibiahmed1947]

@@evn3585 #hermioneandthebeast XD

[@nikkinotes8813]

So basically the witch is a manipulator that was probably angry over a wizard ex. *GREEAAAAAT*

[@Brisingam]

That sorceress is Third-wave feminism)) Let's curse the 11 year old boy. Let's curse every one who works for him. Let's curse Chip!!!!! LET'S CURSE!!!!!!

[@foodbts8109]

@@Brisingam it's time to see who I can curse, let's curse the 11 year boy, let's curse every one who works for hiiimmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!! Let's curse Chiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LET IT CURSE!!!!

[@quietstew843]

In folk lore fairies are seen to be as petty and vengefull so, probably

[@MrOrmanley]

Another thing: If the old Lady was a sorceress all along, she should've had the means to get by without bothering people at the dead of night, and instead just, dunno, teleport herself home, summon a pumpkin house or whatever, conjure a warm fire and food etc. So this woman DELIBERATELY came in the dead of night and transformed herself into the most hideous form she could to provoke a rejection of her offer, and then came down on him like freaking "HOW DARE YOU JUDGE ME ON MY LOOKS". Sounds like she planned the whole thing from the get go, fully expecting the prince's behavior, which makes it likely she knew him and/or his parents before and harbored a grudge for some thing or another. The moral part (him apparently misjudging her) was probably her way of adding injury to insult. This way he's not only cursed, but ridden with guilt as well (I'm a monster for having been rude to her, and now I'm at fault for my servants fate as well). Imagine living in a forgotten, big, cold, castle with your only company being people being miserable because of your plunder. Psychological warfare lvl: 9001 Also: Kinda ironic, how she reproaches him about being judgemental, and she's rotten to the core herself, laying those traps and cursing people willynilly. Imagine her going from house to house like that, cursing every child unwilling to give shelter to a bum at midnight in return of a FOR A FLOWER?! Sorceress? Witch is more like it!

[@deffdefying4803]

Actually she wasn't really asking for anything (if she was, she didn't need it), she was passing judgement

[@tokyomilmil]

Well whatever, this WHOLE incident is nonsense no matter how you look at it: Even if it's a deliberate set-up by the witch, it has a big flaw in its carry-out: Almost always the one answering the door for a castle wouldn't be the prince himself, but any of his pagers.

[@tokyomilmil]

And I'd still say the prince is punishable: Even though the old witch just offered a rose for boarding fee, the prince should have invited her in even if she hasn't offered anything! (Since this story was set in France, I'd like to think this is an allusion to The French Revolution) The only part I agree with you is about punishing such a young kid ... 11 year-old is supposed to act largely immature ... But in the end I have to say, growing up as a beast is still somewhat better than the kind of lives many 18 century French peasants were forced to bear their whole life!

[@Ashray1]

@tokyomilmil: There is just one problem that I have with your argument: Do YOU want to have your 10 year old kid open the door in the middle of the night for everyone who knocks and let them in? He may have called her ugly, and that's not nice, but she's also a stranger, who he doesn't know. She could be a thief or something. You wouldn't want to wake up in the middle of the night and find some stranger around your kid either, right?

[@meetaverma8372]

don't you know, there are believes across the globe of gods and sorcerers/wizards testing people?

[@alfredroman5801]

Even though the Beast grows up, the servants do not. Really think about it, why is Chip still five years old? I'll tell you, when the servants transformed, they are immortal.

[@TheEtherny]

Not immortal but rather ageless

[@axelhowardcalonge6361]

Alfred Roman but when the beast transformed, why does he look so mature?! (he looks pretty mature, as far as I can remember)

[@Zephyr_Zeitgeist]

Oh, that's easy- it's because they were inanimate objects. Well, normally inanimate objects. If they had all been turned into critters like the prince, they would have aged, too.

[@axelhowardcalonge6361]

Sonya Steadman Wow! Thanks for that! hahaha I never thought of that xD

[@c0rmis]

Alfred Roman because chip could have been born a cup but his mom being a real human causes him to be a human to. and for the dad he could have just been shattered☺🙂

[@HammtariProductions]

i have a theory on his age, so basically when the sorceress cursed him, his body stayed the same until it was transformed back into its original form at the end, so his mentality is 10 years older but his body is the same.

[@angeliquemoore1407]

Beauty and the Beast is definitely my personal favorite Disney movie, and I'm so glad this is being talked about! Also it's not Stockholm Syndrome, although there are multiple disney movies that depict it( Hunchback of Notre Dame and Tangled). Belle didn't shoe any interest until she saw the Beast make an effort to change for the better. And she only really fell for him after she was free.

[@Pugkin5405]

Nobody says Stockholm syndrome seriously. It's close enough where it pretty much is

[@colebeiner2707]

there is a book called "As Old as Time: A Twisted Tale" that explains this theory from the beast's perspective

[@thomaslhb67]

It's different then the Canon though (But it's an amazing book)

[@jesslee2836]

But it’s no tho

[@asbuilt0017]

RocketSapphire T.T it is a different cannon where the stories are twisted it’s still a Disney book

[@thesixaddict5174]

It is extremely intricate.

[@Eiaesthetic]

Thank you for sharing!!!

[@qtarokujo3694]

everyone here's talking about the Beast while I'm here wondering about Chip... like he lived his whole childhood as a teacup... an OBJECT!!... never having to have a normal childhood... not even for a human... how would it feel for a person, let alone a child, who lives his life reduced to nothing more than an object? and even with the curse gone, how do you think he'd be able to cope with never having a human childhood? there's no way he'd stay happy and innocent just like that this theory is seriously breaking my heart... 😣

[@SkyWingFeather]

Seedge Mercado Yeah, honestly! I've always wondered how old he is. In the musical Chip said that he wanted to be a boy AGAIN, which meant that he knew what it was like before, so I'm guessing he's supposed to be eleven or twelve even though he acts much younger than that.

[@devilovesdevil]

SkyWingFeather i always thought it must be sad that he must of been beasts playmate as a child, since beast was 11 when it happened and watched as beast grew and he stayed a boy as a cup.

[@JuriAmari]

And what's even sadder is that the Beast has no choice but to grow up. Chip can at least resume his childhood from where he left off.

[@icefox94]

they must have messed up with the script there. chip doesn't look to be any older then 12 when the curse is lifted, so he had to have been somewhere between newborn and 2 when first cursed, possibly 3 if you want to push his end of movie appearance to 13, and none of those ages would be old enough to remember by chip's age. he could possibly remember sensations of being human if he was cursed when he was 3, but any younger would definitely be too young.

[@starcrashr]

The staff and their families must have had their development suspended while the prince kept ageing.

[@travelsizedlions]

This theory establishes some interesting parallels to the phantom of the opera. The phantom, like the beast, suffered something traumatic as a child that caused him to be isolated from others, and like the beast never developed basic social and emotional maturity. In both cases, the beast/the phantom were both watched over by someone who pitied them (the staff in the beast’s case, and the madame in charge of the ballerinas in the phantom’s). Both figures kidnap their love interest. In the Beast’s case, the romantic connection he developed with Belle caused him to flourish and look outside of himself, winning her heart and curing him of the curse. But in the phantom’s story, his lust for Christine was entirely self-serving, though ultimately he too learned to let go of his own misfortune by letting Christine move on with her life.

[@SasukeUchiha723]

Beast aka (what's his name?): **Stranger Danger** Witch: I'm about to end this kid's whole life!!

[@emilyarnwine6564]

The prince's name is Adam

[@yoghurtcat]

BUT MATPAT First

[@yoghurtcat]

Wow

[@vell1745]

That was so hot

[@dakotasnyder7238]

yezzz I was planning on doing that too!

[@Idontactuallysellotterpops]

+KZbin comments wow

[@sanjayaloor6072]

"Don't accept candy or creepy glowing floral arrangements from strangers,kiddo"-MatPat 2015

[@hannahc3317]

i read this as it came on

[@adrianpramadipta8631]

the funny thing is when u made this comment in 2017

[@dead9247]

And knowing is half da battle G. I. Joessssssssh!

[@flower_girl4983]

*Achild not letting a stranger into his home at night gets cursed.* Beauty & beast summed up in 1 sentence

[@lmao1660]

Moral of the theory: Don't be a responsible child

[@slaygirls587]

What should've happened Old lady: " beauty comes from within" Beast: "Are you sure about that"

[@JesusHChrist-REAL-]

AND HIS NAME IS THE BEAST

[@Strawberry-xw8pb]

SonictheSniper actually his name is Adam

[@JesusHChrist-REAL-]

+AnimalCraftGaming OK I never watched the movie

[@gwburns72]

me nether but i do not think thats what happend its been out like for ever

[@kayleez1860]

E and H Channel. If beauty comes from within that sorceress is super ugly.

[@puppetmaster9421]

When I found out his real age, this stuff was EXACTLY what I questioned. The REAL villain isn’t Gaston, it’s the sorceress

[@sunshines_life]

I mean Gaston is a villain too. There can be more than one.

[@maggiethepearl7183]

I mean… talking or singing about over hunting, controlling the women he loves, keeping her father as a lock up and killing a random prince monster at night. That’s a pretty big assumption of him not being the villain

[@coachgoltzbizpro23]

Cogsworth can't buttle and the Beast is truly a confused teen. Something new to learn about my favorite Disney story

[@ericsendelbach8768]

Matpat: "...and Belle stumbles in, ready for some good old fashioned Stockholm Syndrome." Me: *facepalm*

[@phungtruong3891]

“Ten years we’ve been rusting” WHERE IS THE RUST BRUH

[@magicpower5075]

Good question

[@kari7403]

They been busy rubbing it off. Why you think the maid feather duster is so sought after? 😉😍😘

[@cool_kai3298]

i think its a way of rotting away or dying or someting

[@rosalynpaningbatan3362]

Yes

[@terranempire2]

So, I conclusion..... Knock on Door. .... No Answer... .....No Answer... Kid opens door. Old hag looks at kid. " Can I stay the night? here is a Rose." Kid Replies "Sorry My Mommy says I should't talk to strangers or take gifts from them.." Old hag now with Evil look in eye changes into beautiful woman. " SO BE IT MUAHAHAHAHA.... And all the Servants to!!" geez suddenly Bruce Wayne does'nt seem like he had it so rough.

[@stealthwolf1]

Why are you dragging me in to this?

[@arnoldmanuel3311]

+Bruce Wayne This exchange made me laugh so hard.

[@applejuice2826]

+Bruce Wayne Best exchange ever XD

[@Candy-yx7sq]

Maybe When everyone was cursed they were not able to age

[@casualukulele]

+Dion Sayas then the whole until your 21 thing would not work

[@ZaxorVonSkyler]

I'm sure we all just assumed as kids that the curse stopped him from aging since he looks like an adult in the stained glass window intro.

[@jcwflyman]

Even as a child I knew Disney had evil sides

[@Caitsbooks]

A lot of people are asking about the portrait, but I just recently found out why he looks so old in it. Disney has published a book called As Old As Time, which is Beauty and the Beast but with one twist (the enchantress is Belle's mother), and it states that the Enchantress who cursed him put a spell on a portrait of him to age with him, so that he will be constantly reminded of what he can be. Also, that book answers the questions of why the servants were cursed, why the enchantress even came and tested him like this, where the hell his parents were, and what happened to the enchantress/Belle's mother after she cursed the Beast. It's an interesting read

[@Caitsbooks]

Oh! And the book confirms this theory too. The Beast was 11 when he was cursed

[@screech4505]

I really want to read this now!

[@aerismeadows]

What's the book called? I'd love to read it!

[@aerismeadows]

Oops I just saw you already said what the book is, my apologies

[@AnimeWolf5193]

Cait Jacobs Yeah, but those books are technically non-canonical. They also made a book where Jafar got the lamp instead of Aladin, and we know that didn't happen. An interestinv, story, but holds about the same weight as the Descendants in terms of fact.

[@DragonFae16]

I'd like Film Theory to do a theory about who Nala's father is. Simba and Nala clearly come from the same pride, and we only ever see the two pride males. So I'll leave it to you to fill in the rest.

[@MikeMessiah]

+DragonFae16 someone send this guy to the top

[@AnnoyingSquib]

+DragonFae16 My theory on that was that the pride of Pride Rock originally belonged to Nala's father. Mufasa and Scar took over Pride Rock driving out Nala's daddy. They then went on to kill all of the cubs to further claim the pride as their own as lions do, but Nala's mom (Don't remember her name) was pregnant with Nala at the time. Rather than kill Nala when she was born, Mufasa decides to allow her to live so that she can be hitched to Simba. It would technically make Nala slightly older than Simba, but if Mufasa got busy right away she would'nt be too much older than him and they would be close enough in age to grow up together.

[@angelocruz3577]

+TheNovelistWriter Ah huh. Sure she does.

[@DragonFae16]

Okay, even if Nala was fathered by another male, her mum is still Simba's aunt, making them cousins.

[@reubensarts7787]

They are either half siblings or cousins, whilst this is immoral in human terms and has serious problems for children of the couple, it is not the same for lions. Lions can mate with relations and their offspring would be fine. I know this is a movie, but they were fairly accurate with lion facts within it. Also it's muffy because there's a scene that was deleted that shows Scar trying to get nala to be his queen and I'm sure a father lion would not do this, no matter how evil

[@nyxie2877]

The fact that the prince was eleven when he was cursed is making a whole bunch of things make sense already

[@juliacortez5516]

It's worse in the live action remake since the sorceress doesn't even wait for Prince Adam to answer the door. She busts in by blowing the doors open, then asking to come in with the flower as a gift.

[@JP_AZ]

What other witch "sorceress" changed herself into hideous old women offering a harmless red object....hmmmm. Sounds like Disney Villianry 101 to me. Yes the poor prince was cruelly tricked by a evil witch!

[@justinharris3630]

I agree! This makes sense! Disney recently revealed that at least some of their movies are connected!

[@minigiioi]

Justin Harris it would be a really surprising but interesting reveal if the witch was actually Evil Queen: the early days, as, clearly, beautiful children of nobility are a threat to her vanity.... Plus she was shown in some media as punishing and *scolding* snow white for perceived infractions, like this manufactured kindness moral.

[@user-jh4zz4up6f]

I dont understand. Since when ugly old woman in the middle of the night is something wrong but isnt old beautiful woman is something right and he decided to apoligize. The boy still only saw her looks

[@vyvywhydontwe9931]

+Даня Таргарян the beast or the prince didn't mean to offend the sorceress so he apologized.

[@vyvywhydontwe9931]

*apologised

[@jainasolo50]

MatPat: ruining our childhoods since I don’t know but a long time

[@kingdomofgreatbritain6478]

2015.

[@kingdomofgreatbritain6478]

Or 2011 for Game Theory.

[@spammer44]

3 years

[@drswag0076]

2011 is the magic year when he started game theory

[@rottenbutterfly111]

I cried for many disney/pixar stuff and now watching Matt pat reminding those childhood sad memories again... man youre really amazing!

[@azel7056]

This has to be his shortest vid I’ve ever seen, I didn’t know it was even possible for his vid to be this short, but it was still a fun vid 😂

[@pepperpoot8563]

is it me or do you have to watch film theories at like 2 am 😂

[@nekuthatrandomguy1724]

try 3 am

[@theepicredstone1553]

**looks at the clock** oh shoot

[@haileesteinfeld8718]

+TheEpicRedstone lol 😂😂

[@softntired7082]

Nope. 4 am

[@dhangsantos8762]

it's literally 2 am right now, GREAT A WHATEVER YOURE CALLED XD

[@ArrowNought]

BUT MATPAT, THOSE ARE SONG LYRICS! THEY MIGHT JUST BE HYPERBOLIC REPRESENTATIONS OF REAL STORY ELEMENTS!

[@apfelsafteis]

Mikeman91 lol

[@thisisme3161]

In Disney, songs are very important, so I don't think that it is hyperbolic, and when you exaggerate, you usually say "it's been an eternity", or "thousand years" and not "ten years"…😌

[@cynthia4240]

Mikeman91 Wow

[@meghanapasumarti8937]

+KZbinComments Wow

[@mathsisdeadtomenow]

Wow. That's actually a very well thought-out, eloquent response for the KZbin comments.

[@vjpearce]

I always thought that the rose would bloom until his 21st year as being a beast? That's how I saw it.

[@jessievelasquez]

4:38 well he apologizes to not accept the rose but somewhere in that first part of that story it says she asked if she could stay the night there and apologizes for not letting her sleep in the castle? For some reason this sounds a little weird that he apologizes for not letting her in and also he could’ve just ask his parents unless their dead... but if their dead then I think he would be a king!

[@vibemaster4404]

BUT MATPAT those are song lyrics, they might just be whatever-he-said representations of real story elements!

[@johannabrennan1829]

lol

[@Michael-Filla]

wow. what an incredibly well articulated response for the youtube comment section.

[@void-highlighter]

Lol

[@liamcaswell2118]

Wow, what an incredibly paraphrased comment period.

[@sunspiit6641]

He did another vid about something like this that shows how literal song lyrics in this movie is

[@KyuubiCore]

Amazing theory, I thought the same thing when I found out his real age. Also to the people who say that Belle has Stockholm Syndrome, just because Belle fell in love with the Beast doesn't automatically mean it's Stockholm Syndrome, I kinda get why people think that but at the same time I don't because Stockholm Syndrome is about a certain person being attached to the abuser because they can't live without their "power", while Belle fell in love with the Beast AFTER he changed, when he showed her his kindness, that's when she began to gain feelings for him, people seem to forget that she was terrified of him and even when promising to stay in the castle she ran away anyways when she was at her limit, if she truly had Stockholm Syndrome she would've fell in love with his abusive behavior. People seem to connect the syndrome with any kind of imprisonment but doing just a few seconds of research would prove everything with that theory wrong

[@majormana1]

And if he snapped she snapped right back.Belle chose to take her fathers place it hadn't occured to the captor.

[@KyuubiCore]

Miss Amanda's world Yeah, exactly!

[@kimmiewise1044]

While I see some reason to doubt the theory, it's almost impossible otherwise. We have to look at the entire situation in conext both historically and fictionally. In the story, the situation we are presented with is easy to perceive and is actually entirely possible in the French Historical context. First let's set the scene. In the beginning we meet Belle, the princess of the story. A knowledgeable and rebelious young woman who is frowned upon by the town by her strange ideas much like her father. It has been given that this story takes place in France, but WHEN? We can actually tell when by one single instance in the beginning number. The Baker. In France, bread is actually a huge issue historically speaking. Before the most notable French Revolution, women stormed the Brasile Fort all becuase they had no bread to eat. The fact the Baker has plenty of bread to sell and that people in a very small French Village can afford what was once long ago a luxury food, can set Belle in the Neopleonic era in the Revolution when bread prices became stable. Furthermore, enlightenment ideas were being spread throughout France at this time where Belle's father might have gotten inspiration for his own devices and Belle her ideas of independence, however women were still looked down upon as reflected in the Nepoleonic Code and enlightenment ideas had become a very scary concept in France since it was these very ideas that started decades of bloodshed and terror. The town would be justified in thinking Belle and her father were dangerous and Alienated them from society. Alright we have some historical context, so what does this have to do with Stockholm Syndrome in a fairytale? We can now go into the story again, Belle going after her Father in the Woods. Please note the wolves in the scene which Belle is riding to escape and why she even goes in the castle as those are key motivators later. But let me just pause a moment and talk about the weather. Yep, in Florida we have a sunny sky with a high of 92 and in France in the Nepoleonic era we have a humanity halting snow storm of doom! Perfect for your winter vacation! In fact, the winter season is one of the worst seasons to visit France now and if we factor out Global Warming, France seems so cold, ice looks sexy. So when Belle is beyond the gates she has very limited choices, go back out the gate and face the wolves, stand out in the French winter and catch her death in hypothermia, Or enter the big scary castle. And 2 out of 2 Frenchmen recommend the big scary castle. Okay, so she didn't enter the castle by honest choice. We still have movie left to show she honestly and truly chooses to be with Fido over here. We have a cute number with talking objects (Which should make a person slightly terrified and worried even in oldy french times) and finally the big bad wolf wakes up from his nap and finds Miss Beauty who claims to be looking for her father. Beasty boy takes her to him and we see he is in a cell in a dungeon. Now I might be impartial to uninvited guests but Belle and her Father ended up at the castle for the exact same reasons. To escape the wolves and the French Winter. The beast locks up her father for trespassing but is a little more impartial to Belle seeing as she is a pretty lady. But let's be honest if I saw a weird old dude in my living room out of no where, then saw a dashing, cute young man a day or two later, I'd be impartial too. We know that Beast is about to execute the father but Belle stops him and asks that she takes his place. Now let us look at this. Beast has the custody of Belle's father, an advantage over her, Belle can't simply fight him and in Nepoleonic times, women didn't have as many rights as the men and we're basically second class citizens to men. In Belle's little village there was practically no way for her to get by without some male figure helping with the income and with a name on the land she was living on. Her father was the only male in her family and if she left without him, Belle would be forced by French society to get married fast and the most willing party? Gaston which I also have a theory of him not being a bad character and in fact his desire for Belle comes from being too perfect but I'll move along. We also have to understand how the brain works under intense situations. We do not make the best decisions under pressure and that's just a fact. Our brain has no time to assess the concequences of our actions in a very quick decision and this can explain why Belle decided to try to take her father's place in the stead of going back to the tiny village in defeat and a little more traumatized than the average Frenchman, becoming Gatson's wife and being a small blip in the stage of history. The Beast decided to uphold his end of the deal, (although he could have decided to kill Belle's father without her looking) and sends him on his way back to the village, but remember what he was carried back in. A magical wardrobe-chariot-cab-thing. Never knew what that was as a child...Note it is magical and can slip by the wolves keeping dear old pop pop in one peice as he enters the village. But let's return to out beloved Princess for a moment. We see that Belle, after making the deal with the Beast, is locked up in another Cell. We also see how she is treated in the cell itself. It is the Beast who brings Lumiere, the only source of heat Belle will be prevy to this winter and he also takes him away. Lumiere also, even though loosely does dose so, follows the beasts commands and we never see Lumiere visit Belle without the Beast. When Belle finally gets out of that horrible cell and into a proper bedroom it's maybe early spring at least. The French Winter lasts a total of four months, December, January, February, and March, and even if we are extremely generous a discount December as it is some times more fall like that's still three months of winter Belle is in an uninsulated, damp, and possibly infested cell. Three months we never see in the movie, probably due to how graphic those three months could get and probably cutting out other moments in which the Beast in conditioning Belle with food and heat for her survival. Even if the beast had good intentions on innocently visiting Belle becuase he is just a really lonely dude, the fact that the Beast has all the control in this situation and that in three months Belle is probably desprate, of course there is an overwhelmingly likely case that she tried to play up the Beasts emotions to set herself free. This is very clear during the movie in which she dose try to escape the castle at a time. However, the odds a stacked agaist her escaping the woods from the start. Remember that magical cab thing that saved her father? Did you remember the man eating wolves out there? Apparently for a good minute, Belle didn't but perhaps she did and ran back due to remembering their deadly howels in the winter night. She wouldn’t make it a half hour in those woods without someone else to help keep her covered unless Belle had a shot gun conceled somewhere under that ball gown. So upon returning, she may have felt a little relieved that she could go back to the castle in spite of her horrible situation and this is where it starts to settle in. The act she is putting up to survive turns on her. There are a hand full of cases in which this is the case with kidnap victims. At first they only like the kidnapper to survive but then overtime you humanize them the more time you spend with them. This same concept is further explained in Mat Pat's theory on Dating Sims. But this phenomenon has been shown that victims can accidentally fall in love with their captor while trying to escape. It might not nessary be Stockholm to a Tee but it shares too many common characteristics to be blown off. Ah, but it's just my theory ^^;;;

[@KyuubiCore]

Even though this is incredibly well written, I doubt Disney even throught of half of this, and the fact that Belle tried to run away just really proves how much she wanted to get away from Beast and how strong she was, when Beast saved her she tried to run away not caring about him, she wanted to get home so badly, but then she realized that he saved her life and she felt bad for leaving him alone there because she is supposed to be a good person who can see the good in people and sacrifised herself yet again, therefore she saved his life as well, they were even, and in the next scene she didn't even shiver when the huge Beast was shouting into her face, she was yelling back at him and standing up for herself and even beating him in an argument, she thanked him for saving her life because it's a decend thing to do, and she only thanked him after he calmed down and let her heal his wound, she was only being a decent human being to him when he was calm and understanding, and she fell in love with him only after he changed for the better and gave her am entire freaking library. Don't forget that the Beast let her go and she gladly left to save her father, she didn't beg to stay and be protected, she left alone again and made it back and never asked for any protection. There hasn't been a moment of her being glad that she was with him until he has changed.

[@chloek1182]

I really want to read your theory, kimmie, but its HUGE! Do you think that you could sum it up a little?

[@bluballs-cw1mx]

Walt had a pencil✏️ MATPAT had an sponge🧽 Walt drew Disney✏️ MATPAT washed away the innocence of it🧽

[@IluvKonig]

Poor prince. Even though I never knew of the true lore, when I was younger, I still felt bad for the beast.

[@Jack-zz7bc]

And yet, you miss why this theory makes PERFECT SENSE. The constant running gag in the movie is making fun of social issues that we just tend to look over. “We don’t like what we don’t understand in fact it scares us...” and how they refer in later versions to the fact that most people back then couldn’t read. This fits perfectly because children were concerned adults as soon as they could speak, therefore, the sorceress wouldn’t treat the prince like a kid.

[@AJ-xv6bj]

True true. But he is still 11 lol

[@pixel_cookie148]

But Belle doesn't have Stockholm Syndrome, she always stands her ground when it comes to the Beast. If any of the Disney characters have Stockholm Syndrome, it's Rapunzel and Quasimodo. They both love their captors, for lack of a better word, but the captors (Gothel and Frollo) don't love their "children" (I guess?) back. Belle is the one to snap back at the Beast, it takes Rapunzel and Quasimodo most of the movies to stand up to Gothel and Frollo.

[@fantasyfiction101]

+Pixel_Cookie If anything Beauty and the Beast is an example of Lima Syndrome, which is the opposite: the captor falls in love with the captive. The beast admits that he loved her before Belle said that she loved him. She wasn't really listening to him and snapped back at Beast. It wasn't until he saved her from the wolves did she even start liking him at least a little.

[@majormana1]

He put it in as joke to shut up idiots who claim Belle has Stockholm.

[@julijakeit]

+Pixel_Cookie how can someone have a syndrome of the even that took place at least 200 years after the events? Duhhhh....

[@sophieg.m.8169]

+Pixel_Cookie FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT! I've been saying this for years.

[@mathybrain8]

Is it really Stockholm Syndrome if Rapunzel believed Gothel was her mother? It feels more like Gothel unofficially 'adopted' Rapunzel. I'm not saying Gothel was in the right, but it's not like Rapunzel saw her as a captor until she found out about her real parents.

[@TheChaosThatisMyMind]

Mat-Pat’s motto of “Ruining your childhood since 2011.” feels very true about this theory

[@michaelhenretty3244]

I love how at the end of every video you say but that's justhat's just a film theory but then you literally spend me entire video hope proving how that is literally the case

[@XL.Pumpkaboo]

An 11 year old prince makes sense. Remember: During Shakespearean times, people had a short enough lifespan that puberty was adulthood. They got married at the age of THIRTEEN (ie: Romeo & Juliet)!

[@XL.Pumpkaboo]

Here's what might have happened... Knock on castle door at night (at the time the prince should be going to bed...NOT as late as they make you think it was). The prince happened to be closest to the door. Being a kid, his curiosity persuades him to open the door. The old lady tells him that she wants to enter his castle and claims it's due to the weather. The prince judges her by appearance (as kids tend to do) and is scared. The old lady turns into a young lady. The prince thinks that she's angry with him (he's more courteous, because she's not "creepy looking", anymore); so, he tries to apologize. Having been insulted by a vain royalty member (as if royalty was NOT vain back then), she curses him. Any servants that happen to show up around that time (they would probably have gotten there while the lady transformed herself and the prince apologized) would have misunderstood what had occurred and gone after the sorceress. At THAT point, she would have cursed the rest of the castle. And to think...the curse was based on a MISUNDERSTANDING. I've seen things like this (minus the curse casting, of course) in TODAY's world. Talk about deep symbolism!

[@Tytoalba777]

PokéTriforce The shortened life span thing actually isn't true. If you lived to puberty, i.e. making it past infant mortality, you could often live to 60's-70's. The numbers are brought down due to infant mortality (like 1 out of 2 or 3 kids die in their first 5 years or something). The marrying at 13 is true though, and a good theory to go with

[@Elonyx.studios]

James A Clouder Well people only ever lived that long if they where royalty, most commoners did have a short lifespan due to all the hard/dangerouse work and lack of sanitation

[@starandfox601]

actually even commoners had a longer life span and it really only dropped during industrial revolution.which was thanks to high pollution and the dangerous work.but pretty much 60's and 70's was average.

[@fnsdjkovnsdkvn]

MayanExpression Actually the poor had better nutrition. the rich didn't want to seem poor by eating plants, so they ONLY ate meat. this has quite a few issues for them as you might imagine.

[@burritomensch1257]

I challenge you to do a theory about Bee Movie.

[@cornstalk3744]

I would pay to see this.

[@noonecareslol3580]

same

[@giggityking6505]

or a theory on how *aerodynamic* Dumbo's* ears are.

[@mr.tennisballs955]

Ayy that's pretty good

[@didisunandiono1739]

Another of the Beauty and The Beast Tradegy is the sequal of Belles Magical World. *Que Airhorns*

[@billyepicness4417]

You are amazing at what you do you have too Chanels and with every video you blow me away!!

[@chinopwned]

You would make a good lawyer mat pat

[@PeppermintMentos]

Agreed

[@chinopwned]

Francesca C he can always come up with the most convincing stories, like if I happen to be on the jury the day he's in court defending a murderer, I have 0 doubt that he can't come up with a story beyond good enough to save that guys sorry ass.

[@cameronf8294]

If he says it's just a theory a murder theory and that's all I have 4 the diffident. He wouldn't do good😂😂

[@demi4184]

1:05 At this moment the prince knew He fucked up

[@meridilcarilo4835]

lel

[@missbellebear218]

SansandGTfangirl57

[@beatricecherici2597]

SansandGTfangirl57 si true

[@midorigurin7266]

XDDD

[@Soupslutt]

SansandGTfangirl57 @prince- you done messed up a-a-ron

[@Darth_Kirrem]

This video was so short . . . but so good.

[@SpartanGoaticus]

the arrested development reference killed me!! also can we have a theory on arrested development! i think it has some potential!

[@thedogwiththatface2357]

Gaston: every last inch of me is covered with hair Mat pat:oh really Me:I love you so much By the way # buttlefail

[@thedogwiththatface2357]

I was crying of laughter so funny

[@chlorhoyle3064]

I ship wolf with mad pat

[@Doctor_Straing_Strange]

#buttlefail

[@morrganb7671]

Matt! If anything, Belle had Lima syndrome, not Stockholm! Geez! Okay, my turn. Yes, it's easy to believe that she has it, as Stockholm syndrome is defined as "when the victim over a time starts to sympathize with their captor." Yes, she is technically a prisoner, but Belle has the ability to leave at anytime. She even walks out the front door! Let's break it down. Stockholm syndrome is more of a defense/survival mechanism. The subject has to feel threatened in order for it to work, and in the case of Stockholm, befriending the captor is not a conscious decision. This is the exact opposite of Belle. While his appearance does frighten her at first, she is rarely threatened by him or finds him threatening. She directly defies him, refusing to eat dinner with him. Her environment isn't threatening either, seeing as she has a friendly wardrobe for a companion. The only time she would have felt threatened is when she was caught in the West Wing. But she admits to the Beast that she was....

[@morrganb7671]

(Continued) sorry for touching the rose and that she didn't mean any harm. But when the beast gets violent, her first instinct is not to befriend him. In fact, even between "fight or flight," she chooses to flee. "Promise or no promise, I can't stay here another minute." When the Beast saves her from wolves, she goes to get on her horse. She could have ran off and left him there. But instead, we see her make the conscious choice to help him, as she feels indebted to him. Seeing that he really isn't that bad, she makes 'conscious' choices from there on out to befriend him and to get to know him. In a deleted scene, we even see her teaching him how to read! Finally, here's the nail in the coffin, if she did suffer from Stockholm, she wouldn't have made the decision to leave. Seeing her father in the mirror in a life threatening situation, she feels helpless knowing that she has to stay. Yes, the Beast does "free" her, but if she had suffered from Stockholm, Belle would have either stayed

[@morrganb7671]

+Morrgan B (continued) or made a promise to come back. She did none of those things. When she does return, it's a conscious decision, and it is out of her friendship with him (plus, she wants to stop Gaston from killing him). The definition for Lima Syndrome is as follows: "the phenomenon in which abductors develop sympathy for their captives." Beast shows this by making her life better. He doesn't throw her in a tower. He gives her a room. He lets her roam the castle. He gives her a freaking library! After the encounter with the wolves, he sympathized with her and wanted to make her life better. No Stockholm here. But hey! That's just a.... Fact! A film fact! And cut!

[@morrganb7671]

+TatzRules Yay Aw, thank you! :)

[@sunshineisdelicious]

Thanks for typing this up here! It's definitely interesting

[@ldsgermanshepherdboy9272]

+Morrgan B wow! You went really in depth.😐 I'm suprised. Also, do you know anything about Norwegian history? I have ancestry from there and I'd like to know their history.

[@zaynahlliambitanga2879]

GREAT! MY FAVORITE MOVIE R U I N E D Edit: I hate the enchantress now

[@mjfan8704]

AHEM WALL-E

[@needacuppa1898]

Hey, I actually read a book from Disney on Beauty and the Beast which is a retelling of the events in the movie, however with much deeper lore. It provides insight of the enchantresses backstory and why she cursed the prince, and everyone in the movie and book all have a connected past with one another, with a pretty big twist revealed in the book too. It is a bit gory, but I totally recommend it as it really shows a whole other layer to the story

[@CoatApple]

Matpat:#ButtleFail Me:Hehehe time to annoy my friends by shouting #ButtleFail >:)

[@THEPELADOMASTER]

Why would anyone open the door in the middle of the night, let alone the very prince of the castle? Wouldn't he be sleeping?

[@mothcatcher893]

+THEPELADOMASTER Because it's disney

[@sulien6835]

+Sackbot 2011 Maybe she was banging on the door as loudly as she could and incessantly. The real question is why the prince answered instead of the butler.

[@THEPELADOMASTER]

Simon Mael Chaput Castles are big, no kind of banging on the door would wake a young prince fast asleep.

[@RyujinZero]

+THEPELADOMASTER Yeah, I mean, keep in mind where his room is. It's WAY up in the West Wing. With the doors shut and all that tapestry and carpet in between, he wouldn't have heard a thing.

[@MfingChristonya]

+THEPELADOMASTER What young kid ISN'T on the computer looking at porn in the middle of the night? Chance are the prince was awake already doing what you'd expect any young boy would be doing... Trying to find a pair of boobs to stare at.

[@CrouchingTigress01]

Nice theory Matpat, but I'm surprised you didn't bring up the fact he was clearly abandoned by the king and queen. Think about it, they get home from their trip and find their son like *THAT*... surely that would add to the tragedy and inability to find/ comprehend true love because those who should have embraced him no matter what, didn't... but hey, that's my theory

[@kaziislam2785]

Or his parents are dead.

[@CrouchingTigress01]

good point Kazi Islam. I didn't think of that option which would add to the tragedy as well

[@CheeseinatorGaming]

CrouchingTigress01 its Disney... EVERYONE HAS DEAD PARENTS!!!

[@kaziislam2785]

Owen Porter And there's actually a sad reason behind it. Walt Disney's mom died in a house fire in the house that Walt bought for her. It was caused by a faulty furnace. He felt responsible for her death, so he kept killing everybody's parents, or at least their moms, in every movie he made. That's why he even showed little kids Bambi's mother's corpse up-close.

[@CheeseinatorGaming]

Kazi Islam yeah, i heard about that. i was bummed

[@evangeline...]

omgggg its been sooooo long since ive watched these videos 😭

[@kyleseverene7823]

Great video love the video it was really good and interesting

[@dykethatbites]

“Every last inch- **W i n k** Of me is covered with hair!” Matpat: Oh really?

[@extra-celestial]

Yeah..hehe..your chin 😉

[@rebeccahicks2392]

I...never noticed the wink til your comment. That adds something different to the song.

[@CCartman69]

Wait where's that little Prince's parents...oh wait it's Disney? Yup, more dead parents. Seriously there are more dead parents in these films than in DC and Marvel combined.

[@BFIRE98]

Lol too true

[@kaziislam2785]

There's actually a sad reason about that. Firstly, it's usually just dead moms, and this is because Walt Disney's mom died in a house fire due to a faulty furnace in the house he bought for her. He felt responsible for her death, so he keeps killing the parents, or at least the moms, in every movie he made.

[@zaydshams5946]

are u being sarcastic cuz for every marvel/dc hero and villain that hero or villain had some loss of family

[@JonathanRossRogers]

Core Brute Imagine how few parents will remain now that Disney owns Marvel. Also, don't forget about Star Wars.

[@ColeycowProductions]

Kazi Islam yes, but its a tradition that Disney still upholds today! Can we have a Disney film (pixar doesn't count) where the whole family survives please?

[@boostiana4813]

Man...time really flies. Can't belive I've been watching MattPat for over 6 years now. I wish there was a way to know you are in the good ol days before you leave them

[@silverbullet7691]

Looking back on this video, I saw this old post detailing a short story from the Beast’s childhood. In the story, Beast as a young boy had a horse that he was too harsh on and was irresponsible with. The horse later ran away and was taken in by the Enchantress. This could be the vendetta she seemed to have from the beginning. I’m not sure about the canonicty even if that were the case, he’s still just 11 years old and her reaction was to punish him for 10 years. The book is really hard to find and I cannot for the life of me remember it the title.

[@SerenityBane]

It will bloom till his "21st year" can imply his 21st year of being a beast. It doesn't necessarily mean his 21st year of life. He is clearly older than 11 in the stained glass and the portrait. The Broadway version did solve this confusion by changing the lyrics to "would bloom for many years."

[@Raknarroth]

SerenityBane except Disney made a prequel and the prince is 11

[@dcvideos7315]

But it said the rose would wilt around the end. Ten years is only half way. But, I get where ur coming from.

[@aru5765]

SerenityBane just gonna add a bit more evidence, the servants said that they've been rusting for 10 years and like you said the flower will bloom until his 21st year. Therefore it can't be until his 21st year as a beast because he's only been one for 10 years and the flower has almost wilted..

[@calebbergmann799]

Except that the alternate beginning, we see that the prince is ten. Soooooo, yeah.

[@thismansgame.2329]

What's nine plus ten?

[@amalie3840]

Every time I watch a Flim Theory video, every time at the end of the video, I expect: "But hey, that's just a theory, a GAME theory." But it's a FILM theory.

[@minooshoja6538]

Wolfie Sampson and after i think: a GAME theory i hear Thanks for Watching but its really AAAAAAAAAAND CUT

[@ultragoku6145]

😳😄😃😀😊☺😉😍😳😜😝😛😢😥😭😨😠

[@disconsolate3235]

It’s The opposite for me

[@XiaMatthewsSaid-vv6ez]

I was surprised that this video was only 6 minutes usually it’s longer but this was simple

[@Lestat4Lawliet]

He has a painting of himself as a grown man, which looks exactly like what he looks like when the curse is broken. unless the painter was really good at guessing, i’m guessing he looked that way when he was turned

[@LilyRose8959]

How could he have been fully grown when it's specifically said in the movie that he had til he was 21, and that they've been cursed for 10 years? Maybe that was a painting of his dad, or uncle, or any other male relative?

[@katlovedart]

it doesn't really. He looks to young in the painting.

[@majormana1]

Its not him its a relative. It looks similar but there are diffrences

[@Momy69420]

You are right in the live action there is a scene of him before the transformation and he was certainly not 11