Film Theory: The R-Rated Avengers Are COMING!

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

If the MCU switches its focus to pleasing the mature audience, it's going to definitely attract an even larger audience. The younger audience will always find a way to watch the mature movies either way.

[@drewpamon]

Traditionally pg-13 movies make way more money than R

[@silverprimus321boi9]

@@drewpamon theatres seem to be slowly transitioning to streaming, so idk man

[@MindlessTube]

All the fans that were teenagers of the superhero movies are adults now anyways

[@Rockmaster867]

Kids who watched ironman 1 whennit came out are adults now.

[@bear-wq8uu]

tru

[@unknownvariable9239]

With the darker themes of Moon Knight and Multiverse of Madness, I wouldn’t be surprised if Marvel leans into some R rated stuff with Deadpool and future grim storylines like Secret Wars

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

Disney would nerf it somehow

[@Rojob]

You havent seen the themes of either of the things youve saud

[@CT-55555.]

It's never going to happen Disney's too scared to do that

[@algorithmicalychallenged.291]

Nothing like failing at what made them successful to be progressively worse.

[@algorithmicalychallenged.291]

@@CT-55555. scared? There to smart to hurt there brand.

[@SC-hk6bs]

“The R-rated Avengers, but that won’t be what they’re called.” My brain: _…Revengers?_

[@AMRITZ]

There already is one

[@mrextrt_5546]

@@AMRITZ the Filipino avenger one?

[@Thefi5thdnb]

Revengers - endless tussle

[@СозданиеБезымянное]

The R-vengers

[@sheshanks6035]

Then you add a p to find Tony stark dead 🥲🌝

[@dragonfruitMM]

bro predicted it.

[@newmystery7753]

Yeah this aged very well

[@vaisakh5295]

The exact comment that i was looking for

[@ShadowForce554]

Yeah that’s the point of this channel

[@ShaneWild]

True

[@DiabloGraves]

MatPat: "Oh yeah this is totally an R-rated channel" Also MatPat: "Can't say 'crap' on the videos anymore or I'll get demonetized"

[@r3dp9]

No, this channel is not R rated. PG-13, sure, but not R. If it really was R, I wouldn't watch it. I even checked the film rating guidelines. PG-13 has a LOT of leeway, to the point that some movies that are PG-13 in technicality more than deserve an R Rating. Of course, there are a handful of R films that got their status for arbitrary political reasons, so it goes both ways.

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[@murica7659]

Yeah sometimes I think he forgets how many children actually watch his KZbin channel

[@grogyalous]

@@r3dp9 dude... matpat was joking...

[@FilmFightFanatic]

Back when the new MCU Blade was yet to be announced and the Marvel Netflix shows were still running, I thought Blade would be a perfect addition to the more R-rated Netflix Marvel universe. Now it seems like we might be getting something like that some time in the future....

[@ksaraf23]

Mahersha Ali is gonna be Blade soon, so there’s that!

[@kamren8349]

blade is cannon anyways because he was in a deleted scene with blacknight in eternals

[@admiralweb27]

@@kamren8349 Blade has been confirmed to be an upcoming film, and his first (MCU) Canon appearance was in Eternals. This is a different version from Wesley Snipes Blade trilogy, as I'm sure you know.

[@tenerife_sea]

nope, from the leaks as of today, MCU's blade is still gonna be PG-13, and it's gonna have several time jumps from 1920s, 1930s, and present day.

[@epeeypen]

i am 99% sure Morpheus was suppose to be the R rated movie that helped test the market but marketing messed up and people saw it was a pg 13 movie so they had to change it asap

[@fycat]

This is how I felt about the second Venom film. I think the PG-13 rating is what killed it. Almost anything big happened off-screen because Carnage is wayyyyy too dark for a PG-13 film

[@everythinggirly916]

I haven't seen the movie but I though it had a horror tag. I'm surprised that they rated something like that PG-13.

[@Crazy_Schizo]

@ich🅥 fake, terrible scam

[@Gattsu_the_struggler]

PG-13 as well as bad pacing and writing

[@SayWhat6187]

But the Venomverse isn't part of the MCU even. It was just unnecessary.

[@everythingdibs344]

I honestly liked it for what it was because they realized the best parts of the first movie and focused on that, but I will say it was too short.

[@Fernful]

To be honest I just watched Multiverse of Madness in cinemas (literally a few hours ago as it released in the uk today) and it was WAY darker than I thought it would be. Absolutely fantastic 10/10 movie but just did not expect it to be that dark

[@Chasing-the-outdoors]

The director does a lot of horror movies, look him up if you liked the style. Made the movie way better than I expected.

[@MonsterHunterBoi]

What type of dark? Scary or actual dark ess

[@Fernful]

@@MonsterHunterBoi The scary kind. Not too scary though just q scary kinda vibe if it makes sense

[@Dommbuscus]

I'd say it was dark*er* than MCU movies, but not that dark in general. Some pretty cool kills though. I'd give the movie a 7/10, personally

[@Splashmaster97]

"What mouth?"

[@MontclairBear]

If Marvel starts some R rated films, we wont have to worry about having another Morbius again

[@definitelynotat-rex72]

Haven't seen morbius yet,is it bad

[@ХейтерТрендов]

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[@henrywang4566]

@@definitelynotat-rex72 it’s pretty horrible and vulture never appears except for in the end credit scene

[@definitelynotat-rex72]

@@henrywang4566 wow that kinda sucks,morbius was probably one of my favorites and I was kinda excited for it

[@dunkboyxd6618]

@@henrywang4566 so there no mention of any…Spider-Man in the film?

[@horsemindinghisowndamnbusi7719]

they're literally maturing the level on content in movies at the same rate that their audience is maturing, ingenious move actually

[@BigTbrodoi]

not really just common sense tbh

[@jumbotron2633]

There's a thing called young fans

[@SOSO_CREPITUS]

It’s not… get off your knee pads

[@sololeveling7390]

@@jumbotron2633 It doesn't mean they'll suddenly stop making pg 13 stuff. It's not like adults just watch r rated movies

[@Jack-rj4kd]

That’s just what the comics did, and many other series, nothing new there

[@sionsmedia8249]

They might make a few tv series R-rated, as those are a smaller cost gamble if they flop. But I doubt that Disney would allow for a R-rated full Marvel film with around $200 million budget.

[@algorithmicalychallenged.291]

It would really hurt there brand.

[@sohumchatterjee9]

Deadpool 3 is R rated, so uh no they're doing it already

[@damonlam9145]

The exception is probably deadpool

[@damonlam9145]

@@sohumchatterjee9 yes but since Marvel is own by Disney I doubt they will make that many and even if they do Disney won't bother to put their brand name on it.

[@sohumchatterjee9]

@@damonlam9145 hope Blade is R too

[@donutplace]

This aged well

[@Neio-14]

Why?

[@donutplace]

@@Neio-14 Deadpool and Wolverine

[@Neio-14]

@@donutplace weren't the other Deadpool's rated R anyways? I don't think marvel had anything to do with it

[@Egwith1G]

@@Neio-14 Deadpool and Wolverine is in the mcu

[@Customs25]

@@Egwith1Gnot really he’s not in it at the end of the movie just it’s made not produced by marvel

[@Lil-Dragon]

I hope matpat is right. Especially as I'm terrified Daredevil will be lowered in rating when he pops up again.

[@furydozer344]

3 bots in a row this is ridiculous

[@JOHNDOINK21]

@@furydozer344 it's 4 now 🤣🙄😒

[@dragoonmaster4133]

I wish that was the case. 😢

[@madnessarcade7447]

Only when he crossed over not in his own content

[@benito23453]

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[@AtlasTheTitan117]

There was rumors reporting a “Marvel Max” for rated R titles for Disney plus for things like Deadpool, Ghost rider and these darker titles. As soon as we got the content permissions the old report came back in my head. Hoping to see it come in soon

[@L16htW4rr10r]

That would be awesome

[@fudgesickle7947]

Yeah until they charge extra for it

[@NERDXCORE]

They need to do that and reprint the Max Omnibus line.

[@CowKirbo]

I never knew that moon knight was the origin of the "random bullshit go!" And now I love that superhero

[@CameronKujo]

And “why do I suddenly hear Eminem?”

[@themilz3649]

Well I mean whoever edited the panel came up with it, that panel is original but the words were edited

[@douglasmarshall6949]

it is funny but that is not what moon knight actually said in the comics, it's been edited. I still have it as my head canon tho

[@thegoldendiamond6762]

I never knew anyone asked

[@jhsdhsdvbdjcheitekjyhrd34ttg]

It's edited

[@FNAFXVERSE]

Matpat 2 years ago: the MC not for all of u is coming. Matpat 2 years later: wow I guess I was right.

[@Tepalus]

From a business standpoint it also makes a lot of sense since the main audience from back in the day now is grown up. Hook new kids/teens, keep the adults.

[@deankinsella3579]

@Samuel Eriksson nobody's saying they want to stop the pg13 movies we just don't want a watered down Deadpool, moon knight or blade.

[@a_table]

@Samuel Eriksson you missed the point, you guys are basically saying the same things. It would make sense to have a part of the mcu (knights) thats more R-rated, and good for the adults and older teens that grew up with marvel. And also have the pg-13 side of marvel following the same trend marvel has done in the past, for keeping and hooking in new younger audience. Basically having 2 parts of the mcu. Not fully going R-rated and dropping pg-13

[@Pumkin932]

This crossed my mind as well. Pretty standard, smart business decision.

[@austinwalker2000]

Not nessacarily because new kids become fans every day

[@teddybear8348]

@@austinwalker2000 they don't really matters

[@kingcasso8611]

"We first have to talk about Blade" My finger instantly moved to the like button

[@judahmoar2533]

I doubt they’re going to lean too hard into the R rated stuff purely because it’s well known R rated projects overall make less money and Disney only cares about that. I don’t doubt they might do a couple R rated movies though.

[@thefrozenyak5272]

I'm betting the more "adult" content will mostly be made for Disney+, especially since they just put a password lock on the TV-MA content. And you can be certain that the R-rated films that see cinematic release will have much smaller budgets than the mainline MCU.

[@StillhetMusic]

There's been a shift in interest for R rated movies recently. I mean look how much Joker and the two Deadpool movies made.

[@CrimsonCharan]

@@StillhetMusic Sure (Logan's another example), but I don't think Disney is gonna make that kind of R rated content. At least, not just yet. We may have to go through a few more Eternals and Moon Knights before we get to the Logans and Deadpools

[@sololeveling7390]

When your as big as disney you can make plent of movies that will propably make less money short term but that will attract more customers in the long run by slowly bringing those that like more r-rated stuff into the mcu. Maybe it's not immediate profit but it propably will be in the long run. But yes Disney does only think about money, but i don't see how that's bad i nthis situation.😁

[@Dumbstuffwatcher]

@@CrimsonCharan Agents of SHIELD has sexual content and graphic scenes of torture, and that started right after the first Avengers. Think their audience skewed a little younger at the time so they couldn't embrace it

[@epRivera]

After watching the new multiverse of madness movie, we are DEFINITELY close. It's gonna happen

[@Iliadic]

Well Sam Raimi was the one directing MoM.

[@CookieXD240]

@@Iliadic true

[@follower8815]

I don’t get why everyone talks about multiverse of madness. It wasn’t even scary 😂. Or that dark tbh

[@jlupus8804]

That movie was mostly pg

[@slugmaballs1444]

@@follower8815 i dont get it either everyone say it was dark and scary and i wonder what are their age when they say that

[@xTriniT]

I really hope they do make a darker movie. The thing is that I feel Disney won’t allow it because they think it might flop and a movie with a high production budget would lose a ton of money. I do think that Deadpool will definitely be R rated though, if it isn’t everyone will riot.

[@PhantomTissue]

I think they will eventually, I mean, both deadpool movies were wildly successful, It's hard to look at those and say that there's no audience for mature marvel films.

[@PHNX-ls5bt]

pretty sure they have already confirmed that Deadpool 3 will be R-rated, i honestly dont think Ryan Reynolds would do it if it wasn't. That man has put so much on the line to get Deadpool to where he is after the the way they handled him in X-Men Origins. And without Ryan, there is no Deadpool, he's truly the only actor (imo) that could have pulled Deadpool off.

[@tenerife_sea]

@@PHNX-ls5bt let's not forget dr Strange multiverse of madness was confirmed to be r-rated also... and then they changed their minds and change the plans to be pg-13 lol. don't think such promises means reality.

[@sylvaindraaisma2993]

They're probably first testing the waters with a R-rated TV-show. If that flops, there won't be an R-rated movie but if that succeeds, they'll extend the brand. It's a common thing to do for companies. Especicially when they have D+ to their advantage... :)

[@PHNX-ls5bt]

@@tenerife_sea then they probably lose Ryan Reynolds, he dont care about making money, he cares about the character. And without him, it flops anyways. Deadpool 3 being R-rated, is the only way they make big money off what i would assume to be a ridiculous budget

[@digitalfantasies4570]

I would love to see a multiversal war with all the heroes going all in bloody, seeing a version of hawkeye just straight up shooting arrows through peoples heads, or hulk splitting people in two. Itd be cool to truly see the carnage that could be unleashed if heroes turnt truly evil and not be misunderstood anti-heroes.

[@benito23453]

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[@Alsacerian]

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[@zigslotheon]

Dude WTF?!

[@anthonystrangio]

That would just be out of character then

[@picklenik9658]

There was one pretty big omission from this video however, being Disney+’s first TV-MA Marvel show, the one, the only, the gravely under appreciated Hit Monkey.

[@benito23453]

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[@PeachBBX]

Hit Monkey is my one of my most favorite marvel stuff

[@ItsTheLedge]

Super Underrated!

[@TheAdvertisement]

0:28 Petition for the "MCnotforallofU" to become the official name of the R-Rated MCU.

[@Fae2705]

"Don't you ever just wish that these characters could just let loose!?" My exact thoughts when watching avatar last air bender/Korra. Zaheer gave me a bit of satisfaction.

[@notengonombre_]

I had the exact same thought! It would be so cool to have like an anime fight sequence with a bit more violence but even I found Zaheer's air suffocation quite cool

[@Nate_river_2]

@@notengonombre_ yeah exactly same here mannn 🤔

[@notengonombre_]

@@Nate_river_2 :) (whats with ur pfp 😳)

[@Nate_river_2]

@@notengonombre_ oh that i love to ship people or characters😁😊

[@notengonombre_]

@@Nate_river_2 🤣lmao best ship

[@PatrickWDunne]

Calling Eternals the "arthouse Marvel" movie is fitting considering that Chloe Zhao is heavily inspired by Terrance Malik

[@Blodhelm]

Oof to both.

[@ericvanzo3012]

“Purple raisin man”. That really got me, with me now noticing, Thanos does look like a raisin.

[@benito23453]

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[@theoutsiderjess1869]

How did you not notice the first time you saw him

[@agent1652]

MoM took me off guard with that pg13 rating while Wanda killed the illuminati which looked like something straight out of the boys

[@Soup6]

It's time for the entertainment industry to hire matpat on as a consultant. His ideas are always better than the actual decisions made

[@somerguy3527]

I don’t really think they’re going to go this path, but it would be interesting to see

[@RoxDZoro]

I really hope they do, moon knight has seems more mature

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

Disney won’t let it happen,I hope they do this in the Multiverse of Madness

[@Alsacerian]

@Mbita Acoustic Guitar can you stop copypasting the same stuff and just changing the ytber name and stop self promote

[@Alsacerian]

@@RoxDZoro yeah me too

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

@YurLocalAfricanBoy Moon Knight is a naturally Dark character and it’s a Tv show we are talking about the movies

[@medo5417]

That'll be insane if its true. I grew up with the more "family friendly" Marvel films and now that I'm going to be 21 more adult things are coming out (maybe)

[@yamatoyazuyuki7049]

I'm 20 and I rather R rated than family friendly because sometimes those movies are better and funnier......plus I like to watch Friday the 13th movies s̶o̶m̶e̶t̶i̶m̶e̶s̶ ┐(￣ヮ￣)┌

[@aidansharp5244]

Don’t forget there was a certain scene in the externals

[@tripleg2513]

You have to remember though, even as we get older, new fans come and the target audience stays the same. We are no longer the target audience, that doesn't mean we can't enjoy the films, it just means we shouldn't be trying to take something from the target audience that never really belonged to us in the first place.

[@pjdianalan7934]

@@aidansharp5244 pls, that wasn't even that explicit.

[@kristenweinel9101]

I’m hoping I’ll be 21 in September was low key about to comment the same thing

[@madamplatypus313]

This is what my dad and I have been referring to as “Disney After Dark”.

[@neversyn2panda984]

I am all for more gritty, dark, shows. I just hope they don’t go heavy on the other end of the R-rated spectrum.

[@thunderfury5958]

What? Go the Netflix route and over sexualize EVERYTHING?

[@cosmic_seabunny]

@@thunderfury5958 Yes exactly, worrying about making it sexy instead of actually good.

[@priz69420]

@@cosmic_seabunny Daredevil (show) route is the way

[@OurCumrade]

ya same

[@OliverShearer]

@@cosmic_seabunny good movies can be sexy

[@rogueguardian]

They really should do this. having a darker set of heros especially Marvel heroes is a good direction to take. I do love the core MCU / light-hearted nature of the movies, but I also love shows like Daredevil that take themselves seriously and aren't trying to be super kid friendly.

[@MikachuonYT]

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[@KidKomical]

No they shouldn’t this is so unfair to us younger viewers

[@ParsonDewey]

@@KidKomical bruh there’s plenty of marvel movies having to wait a few years to watch a more mature one isn’t the end of the world.

[@rogueguardian]

Can someone fix the dam algorithm!!??

[@KidKomical]

@@ParsonDewey but I don’t want to tho

[@JosephWolfson]

10:16 There is a fake ebony blade in the comics that was made by Dracula. So, they are related in that way.

[@dante898]

I know you’ve done a Bee Movie theory before but, hear me out, I think a theory estimating how many bees would actually be needed to hold and fly a plane would be very interesting to watch. (Or if it’s even possible for any amount of bees to do so)

[@catholiccontriversy]

Well by all known laws of aviation, bees should not be able to fly at all let alone carry a plane, but because bees don't care about the law they can fly whatever they want, even a coconut if they so desired.

[@-TheMuffinMan]

As long as it's only more dark and diving into adult subjects like child trafficking, horror or things like that I'm all for it. Just nothing sexual.

[@wesstewart2677]

So you reference child trafficking, but you don’t want anything sexual? Um… I see where you coming from but those two ideas are very contradictory, Marvel should be able to tell darker stories without relying on shock value. I would actually like them to tackle issues such as drug trafficking, religious cults, etc.

[@OGStarlightKY]

Can’t have your cake and eat it too. You either want adult subjects or not.

[@SuperIsaiah]

@@OGStarlightKY that's not really how it works. Just because a movie is r rated doesn't mean they have to actively go for every single thing they can

[@teddybear8348]

@@SuperIsaiah well when i watch Logan i was 15 and there was 5 year old same goes for joker and suiside squad (2021)

[@rawfermews4186]

@@SuperIsaiah Okay but like expect it

[@bestlaptop_psn]

Man I wish. Attacks would look, sound, and just feel more powerful

[@slug_boi6262]

Same

[@Alsacerian]

@Hi bro Bot

[@Alsacerian]

@Red 🧢 imagine being a bot

[@sovietbiscuit9918]

Nice Saints Row PFP

[@ryanbensberg5846]

If they do do R rated MCU movies, then sadly they probably wont have any major impact on the overall story, as there are some people who cant watch it.

[@teddybear8348]

Some people will still see that you know

[@fictionverse7292]

@@teddybear8348 but it could mess up some younger audiences

[@fictionverse7292]

@Monsterplayer007 both them and Disney should care if they want to have parental issue

[@AmandaFromWisconsin]

@@fictionverse7292 "Mess up"?

[@ryanbensberg5846]

@@AmandaFromWisconsin i think they mean it may mess up the overall story for younger audiances, just by missing thing

[@sergiodavila2397]

[SPOILER ALERT FOR DR STRANGE 2] They really showed maturity and more of a gorey vibe in the movie that remind me of invincibles with Wanda killing the whole Illuminati. I've always preferred DC over marvel in everything except movies Bc they're always darker and mature and I love the route they're taking now

[@epRivera]

Trident dude's death REALLY showed the direction Marvel is going in

[@lovemusic6218]

@@epRivera exactly. I jumped in theaters when I watched his death. I was like jumping at every death especially Tridents.

[@Jellybeansatdusk]

Slicing Peggy in half with her own shield? Iconic. Wish I could have seen it,

[@seanster9735]

I don't think they'd be able to make characters like Deadpool and Blade family friendly without insane backlash from fans, could you imagine if a film like Joker was made like that?

[@Rumym8]

deadpool you can make family friendly but only when hes not in a solo movie you just have him break the 4th wall and go sorry guys family friendly film and if blade and other dark tone characters team up just have it at a lighter tone

[@tenerife_sea]

ryan reynold's free guy is basically pg-13 deadpool lol. so much so that when I was watching it feels like it was like a mini audition of deadpool but pg-13 for disney..

[@100madmic]

@@tenerife_sea a lot of people like deadpool ratred R. The last two where Rated R it would make people angry if they made deadpool pg 13. and Free guy is different movie. Deadpool is more gorry and you wouldn't be able to that in pg 13 movies it wouldn't fit deadpool to be honest.

[@j4ckpsych0_54]

@@tenerife_sea tbh any movies he's in now all I can see is deadpool even detective Pikachu all I could hear was deadpool 🤣

[@YouScareMe1]

@@Rumym8 Oh god no. That sounds horrible. Nothing worse than having a character behave differently in different movies for no other reason.

[@hagros93]

The Comics Code hadn't disappeared by the 70s, they just updated their guidelines to be less strict and allow zombies, vampires, werewolves etc.

[@Atomic181]

Phase Four of the MCU has been depressing, unexpected and heart-breaking so far. Without spoiling anything, I'll just say that Shang-Chi was definitely the most light-hearted film in Phase Four so far.

[@hesklairvoyant]

not even lol they wernt depressing at all

[@Fantallana]

I think “depressing” might be an exaggeration, but WandaVision and No Way Home definitely made me teary-eyed.

[@hesklairvoyant]

@@Fantallana really? i understand nwh but wandavision was pretty fun and lighthearted to me i dont remember any sad moments to hmm

[@eclipsereviews4678]

@@hesklairvoyant I think wandavision was heartbreaking cause Vision was dead n Scarlet wouldnt get over it and just kept digging a deeper hole for herself.

[@hesklairvoyant]

@@eclipsereviews4678 yes that part was very tragic

[@Rennic20343]

Bro predicted deadpool and wolverine 💀

[@josho7138]

Hehe😎

[@MollyDollyy774]

3:48 Bully Macquarie, Where did Bully come from? Is it Simply the Meme, Or is there a Reason?

[@sbrazenor2]

Given the technology that we have, there can also be a ratings based streaming system. So, for example, you could have different cuts of the same movie where things too mature are not shown or alternate scenes are there to take their place. It would be like an age-restricted choose your own adventure. The start and end are the same, but the middle is where things shift in one direction or another.

[@23Bandz_]

Kinda like how mortal Kombat or call of duty asks if you want to see the gore

[@catholiccontriversy]

Actually a pretty good idea, one that has existed for years with TV broadcasts of movies. Hats Off Entertainment has chronicled a lot of time where deleted scenes were used in place of objectionable scenes because of the channel and time slot a movie was airing on.

[@aaronalquiza9680]

13:26 Did anyone else notice at the end when Matpat started to say his closing signature, the "BUT" was kinda all in, but the "HEY" sounded kinda held back?

[@playstation.e7703]

You are over thinking this

[@JCglitchmaster]

3:45 Whichever editor did this bully Maguire bit should get a bonus.

[@m00bi]

Fairly enough there were kids who've been with the MCU since Iron man and now are already grown up (that includes me, I was in the 1st grade when Iron Man came out). Not to mention there have already been older audiences since way back waiting for the more mature content, so it just serves right that they'd expand this way at this point in time of the MCU. And really, if they made mature content. the kids that weren't allowed to see it in theaters will also grow up eventually. (but who are we kidding most of us watched some 18+ things by the age of 10)

[@aidenflame1576]

MY POINT EXACTLY I WAS READING LITEROTICA AND LEARNING ABT KINKS AND GOT MY S*X ED FROM ONLINE BY AGE 12 like thankfully i learned well cuz im a dillegent and researchy kid but ye xD

[@caliisfkinbored]

i was in middle school when deadpool came out and literally everyone had seen it, the rating doesn’t change anything but the content and it’s still disney so ofc they’re not gonna go all out

[@ThePete7499]

Invincible and The Boys watchers: FINALLY, SOME ACTION

[@anotherpapasheev7546]

Aquarus was too good

[@zeekjones1]

This is the same rule of content they do with nostalgia. As people age up, the content is rereleased to the masses. The memory is unclear, but you don't remember it being bad. These shows will be seen out of at the very least a bit of curiosity. _Let's just hope the content is quality, as many times it's to hold rights to an IP or a plain old cash grab that kills the IP._

[@JaxsonShortz]

After finding out that Deadpool and Wolverine will be in secret wars… this is definitely possible

[@micahphilson]

8:25 Of course Dracula exists in Marvel. Santa exists in Marvel.

[@danielclark-hughes692]

I would _love_ more grown up stories from Marvel. The comics deal with some dark stuff and to see that a little more faithfully recreated would be awesome.

[@СтепанБандера-м1в]

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[@Jack-rj4kd]

Ultimate universe incoming

[@Raccon_Detective.]

@@Jack-rj4kd AKA Marvel set on the realistic hard mode. There's a reason why In Spider-Man PS4 the hardest mode is called "Ultimate".

[@SaadNabil]

Blade, Punisher, Man-Thing, Logan, and Deadpool are the 5 R-rated Marvel films! Marvel has many TV-MA shows on Netflix used to be and Hulu

[@benito23453]

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[@PhilCrossw]

And Deadpool 2

[@keytrononit3]

The marvel shows are on Disney plus

[@lightningpenguin8937]

Those weren't made by Disney's marvel, and it would be stupid to change them.

[@LUCKO2022]

None of those films are Marvel films. Not a single one of them. There is a difference between Marvel made and marvel licensed films. Marvel made films involve Marvel in the making of the films while the Marvel licensed does not.

[@JetFalco]

y'all remember when we got Blade in 2023?

[@cpt.char6465]

Honestly I want to see a theory on the kids show Bluey. If anyone has kids they're bound to know it. I want a theory on how the different species of dogs could evolve without being domesticated from wolves and bred with specific purposes. Maybe it'll just be attributed to how there were different human like species that mated with each other, but I'd like a breakdown of it still.

[@Devzillah]

Bluey is a banger

[@JayVal90]

Going rated R has its disadvantages though. It always gets treated as “moar better movies” but it affects longevity of the material. People get tired of the escalation and no-holds-barred nature of it after a short period of time.

[@na3rial]

I agree, but that's what happens when you use it fast and loose to just "spice things up" for the sake of drama and base entertainment. Marvel has been (mostly) very good about using action sequences to build up characters or relationships, showing newfound teamwork, or clumsiness, or how off the cuff some heroes fight.

[@deadboltzz5199]

You guys can keep watching pg-13 movies

[@cliffritch7304]

It depends on the reason for the r rating. If it is just rated r to make a no holds barred movie, and that's all that's going on, sure. But the world is messy. Making many movies that are only showing the innocent side of the world (at least to the PG-13 level of innocent) misses out on a lot of potential stories. They don't have to be escalating just because it's rated r. It may just open up a larger set of stories that feel real. 2 wildly different examples: 1) suppose you're making a movie about a large war. Showing the horrors that the innocent people went through might raise a movie's rating to r. But that makes it feel more real, and the stakes are more grounded, not just some abstract thing that you know is happening off screen. 2) in a romance story, pg-13 might imply a physical relationship, but it wouldn't really show anything like that. But the reality is that most adult relationships have a physical component. So including it occasionally might make the love more believable. That isn't to say only things that are rated r are good. Far from it. But that rating doesn't have to limit a story to fit into any particular box

[@deadboltzz5199]

@Kondapalli Vedh Saugandh Reddy We've already seen good R rated movies like the joker he's just not old enough to watch it 🤣🤣🤣

[@visulaketagoda8621]

I think they'd split into two as pg 13 and r rated .

[@Timewarpiaman]

I have been saying Disney should create an MCU version of Marvel Knights for a literal decade now. It makes so much sense it's crazy we still haven't gotten it yet.

[@randomlygeneratedname7171]

I think they are waiting for the next generations to be firmly onboard.

[@YouScareMe1]

Not really. The tonal changes would be way too drastic. Also the box office returns would be less. A really good R-rated film is lucky to make a billion dollars at the box office.

[@teddybear8348]

@@YouScareMe1 you have joker so that proves

[@YouScareMe1]

@@teddybear8348 Which proves my point. Joker is the only billion dollar rated-R film.

[@teddybear8348]

@@YouScareMe1 yeah and it was a Oscar winning movie so if marvel would take risk like that then what's is the problem?

[@sanjayanish]

Watching this after the final trailer of Deadpool and Wolverine, it's the best time to watch this

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

This movie would probably be renamed Avengers: The Russo’s Cut

[@shadowmoth9158]

I am early woo

[@njay4399]

But the previous avengers movies don’t make you wanna burn your eyes out

[@lefishe6611]

Avengers 3 and 4 are the Russo cut bro

[@lorddaraken7568]

I would love to see a darker version of Agatha and Wanda, especially because of Agatha absorbing the NRG of the other witches

[@lilithhenderson]

hope this is what we get in house of harkness

[@glocktop916]

agatha is not a villian tho

[@jamespope7669]

@@glocktop916 Agatha is a villain and a lame one at that.

[@glocktop916]

@@jamespope7669 no shes not you clearly didnt read the comics

[@lilithhenderson]

@@glocktop916 she works for Mephisto

[@bobjoebo8933]

But mat, we all knew that vampires existed in the MCU. Especially three of them huddled together

[@netonnaanigbogu8304]

I don't get it

[@johannesstephanusroos4969]

@@netonnaanigbogu8304 I don't either

[@ohio9499]

Is there supposed to be a joke here? Could you explain?

[@m.a.9648]

.

[@Blazecap]

@@netonnaanigbogu8304 replying to you so you hopefully get notified

[@theunbalancedcharge2077]

For a second, I thought MatPat had started cocaine, but then I realized I had my playback speed at 1.5x

[@laynemartin7914]

I totally see a dual continuity coming with adult movies and shows that compliment the main movies but that don't leave holes in the continuity for younger viewers who can't see them.

[@toniodejimi3905]

This is exactly what I want. Make it so the adults have their extra content but younger viewers, or people with specific triggers, still aren’t left out.

[@laynemartin7914]

@@toniodejimi3905 also totally think Deadpool would work in this situation... have him in commercials going is this for adults or kids? And in the family movies have him make a comment reminding himself or another character that they have to be on their best behavior. Little inside jokes for adults like that but that kids still get to see the merc making Dad-Reynolds level jokes

[@laynemartin7914]

@@toniodejimi3905 have him make a comment on the darker lighting and get all excited he can do whatever he wants cause it's an adult movie (look to camera, but not that kind...yet)

[@MysteriousJojo]

There was a brief mention of the Spider-Man drugs comic here, but the full thing is a really funny story: Stan Lee was told he couldn't release the story by the Comics Code Authority, but then realised a loophole in the system: he just released it anyway, without the CCA logo on the covers, because there was nothing in the rules that said he couldn't do that, and then went back to it after the story was done. Everyone quickly realised how useless the code actually was.

[@autobotstarscream765]

The government can't get mad about them taking off the CCA logo just to say no to drugs! It's what Nancy Reagan would want! 😇

[@YesImNick_]

"Definitely not violence or gore when your looking like this guy" - 10:53 He hasn't seen peacemaker then.

[@liampullsgirls5]

Meanwhile, Deadpool Wolverine comes out

[@danktorvosaurus]

1:50 Iron Man did it first

[@MrMovieMaker116]

Fun fact: Dr. Doom has pieces of Jesus' cross in his armor just in case he runs into Dracula...again.

[@awesomedonut8228]

they can team up over the shared trauma of owning money to superpowered guys from new york

[@kevinsanders2216]

I hope this is true. I have very few complaints about the MCU movies but the big one is that it always feels like it’s for children and not really teenagers young adults and so on. If they can make an edgier more realistic world for people like blade without compromising the characters then I’m on board.

[@Thesassyfish]

This video holds up extremely well with deadpool and wolverine and blade

[@TunaNotBass]

You mentioned Ghost Rider as a character that was going to not fit in with the other PG-13 movies at the beginning, but the Robbie Reyes version popped up in Agents of shield, and he was still able to burn people to a crisp without making that MA. Other than that, if Marvel does start using those other characters, at least someone will be mad that their character was made less gory or that they are locked behind an age wall.

[@tripleg2513]

honestly, people underestimate how much PG-13/tv-14 can get away with. They treat it more like PG than PG-13

[@TunaNotBass]

@Justin Cody BBQing people would mean there was something left of them.

[@Gagieboy]

"the MC not for U is coming" ok this made me grin and chuckle. Made my morning 😂

[@joe-ker7388]

As much as I would love a darker theme for marvel movies, I usually watch the marvel movies with my little brother and we have a lot of fun together so it would be a shame for him to miss out

[@teddybear8348]

No one cares

[@goldflower6892]

@@teddybear8348 No one asked if you care or not

[@CookieXD240]

@@teddybear8348 sad just sad

[@jacob8265]

Marvel will have its own pg18 division your bad guy gets punished by the good guy and gets trown in jail will still be a thing

[@ChristianDude28]

@@teddybear8348 Who asked you if you cared? You just want to see nude trash

[@mariababer7950]

(11:05) So that's not how real relationships are...?

[@-.oOo.Tuluna.Falemunla.oOo.-]

I have an idea: You could make a channel about book theories! If you like the idea, and if you like fantasy, I can highly recommend you ,,the school for good and evil'', ,,keeper of the lost citys'', the Disney villains series and Disney's twisted tales. But sadly these books aren't very popular, so maybe not many people would watch videos about them. But maybe you could really make a channel about book theories

[@Everyoneneedsafriend]

fast

[@jakewetherell9984]

L

[@Toookar]

I agree

[@gummypanda5072]

You're first

[@ХейтерТрендов]

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[@bruvocado]

It’s going both direction, if you look at the Ms Marvel trailer it seems enjoyable for a larger younger audience (compared to the others marvel series)

[@CouchSpud91]

Midnight Sons were called out, by name, in an interview with Kevin Feige as the reason that Blade and Moon Knight were being given Marvel shows. Ghost Rider is supposedly in pre-production to be a part of the team as well and there's rumors that Punisher will be a member as well as the "non-supernatural man" of the group.

[@lutherheggs451]

Blade isn't getting a show, its getting a PG-13 movie.....They've already said NO R-Rated MCU films

[@_anterix_2953]

@@lutherheggs451 that is super disappointing

[@teddybear8348]

@@lutherheggs451 your comment is no longer relevant after that marvel zombies show that tv ma been announced

[@teddybear8348]

@@_anterix_2953 don't believe him

[@cloudscovermyflaws]

First time I realized that I love Marvel’s darker side was when I watched the Legion series. And now with Moon Knight I’m seeing a lot of similarities. Again though, Moon Knight can only do so much of that type of psychological horror without getting an M rating. Which ofc saddens me, bc I’d really like to see what Moon Lnight could’ve been with the same boundaries Legion had. To anyone who hasn’t seen it, I’d highly recommend it. Season 1 is amazing, season 2 is great too but gets a little iffy, and then towards the end it’s just a little too much. But I still definitely recommend.

[@setheaves9608]

Funnily enough, the similarities between Moon Knight show and Legion show are accidental. The Moon Knight show is drawing most of its inspiration from the Jeff Lemire run which was also set in a psychiatric hospital and had a similar vibe/flow as the show. The comic came out a year before the Legion tv show

[@E0572-e1n]

I liked both legion and moon knight but legion was just leauges better than moonknight. Legion was an fx show And had no connection the mcu/marvel studios. I just don't think that kind of creativity can coexist with the mcu machine

[@cloudscovermyflaws]

@@E0572-e1n Yeah, I completely agree. Honestly as far as I can tell, FX is doing pretty well for themselves the past few years. One of my favorite shows on television rn is What We Do in the Shadows. It’s a vampire mockumentary from Jemaine Clement and it’s absolutely hilarious, while also putting in the right emotional beats too.

[@ihavenoidea5845]

There is a season 2? :D where can you see it?

[@hdfwk4wjj69wjvi8]

@@ihavenoidea5845 hulu

[@z-man1237]

I got high hopes for Marvel Knights series coming into the fold. Moon Knight, Blade, Punisher, Werewolf by Night, and etc? I’m all in to see how this works out!

[@Moola868]

Luke Cage meting Blade for the first time: "Cotton Mouth, is that you?"

[@2centschange]

Dane fits a bit more due to the recent revelations about what the ebony blade actually is, where it came from and how it empowers him. Amazed it didn't get mentioned in here since its not a huge explanation.

[@HolyNamed]

It's crazy that this theory was correct, We'll miss you Matpat!

[@name-uh5ee]

Sadly, the end credits scene for Morbius doesn't seem much like he'd be part of this group

[@paulshockley8632]

Only if Disney makes a deal with Sony for morbius to team him up with the midnight sons team. But I don’t think so. Morbius is no spiderman.

[@rustybone]

Good 💀

[@aetheriox463]

the only person who watched morbius

[@goodquestion1209]

Thats released already?

[@Malachi_Risinger]

7:42 Here's Matpat talking about how mature Marvel Knights books are while showing a comic that literally says PG in the corner.

[@TheeSpaghett]

I don't think they would do this just because it could lead to less money for marvel and Disney due to the younger audiences having a chance of not being able to watch the movies

[@100madmic]

yea I group up with Marvel and Dc. And some superheros like deadpool would not fit in the pg 13 it just wouldn't fit right.

[@TheeSpaghett]

@Jonn Tronn true but there is even more kids that are watching now because some people grew up with the first Iron man and now have kids possibly wanting to share the experience but they can't because it's rated R that's just my thoughts

[@glocktop916]

it wont be a problem disney is technically to big to fall they can lose a few billion dollars and make it back in a day just by merchandises lol

[@443MoneyTrees]

@Jonn Tronn yeah but how about new kids?

[@303TAG303]

who cares?

[@queenbrii2266]

Omg please please PLEASE do an episode on Severance! (On Apple TV) it’s right up your alley: mysterious company splits your consciousness into work/home versions. Tons of lore and weird/creepy offices.

[@biffwellington6144]

That is so weird that they've cast Mahershala Ali as Blade, since he played Cottonmouth, one of the main villains of Luke Cage season 1. With Cage also being part of Marvel Knights, this makes it likely that you'll see Cage running around with the same guy, but he's now somebody completely different.

[@ahmadsolehyn295]

Simple answer to that: Multiverse

[@СтепанБандера-м1в]

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[@NesquickBunny]

It’s kind of like Ryan Reynolds playing two deadpools in the x men universe

[@littlebunse5]

They're going to recast Luke Cage if he's included in the Marvel Knights.

[@morganbrown392]

They’ve been recycling actors since The Original Avengers.

[@StudioHannah]

0:04 No. I don’t want things to get so gritty that MCU films would be rated R :( That means a smaller audience and more of me frowning and closing my eyes. Not my thing. And yet I am intrigued by these characters T__T

[@Resident_Kriegsman]

Moon Knight would be pretty dope, or if we got the other iron man suits in CGI and on screen

[@NostalJackMusic]

This theory hits different after doctor strange just became the darkest marvel movie yet

[@epRivera]

Fr

[@chane11ee7]

Same I was so shocked that he predicted right after watching it in the cinemas

[@n.e.r.dcomicsinc9212]

Theory: Matilda was in a symbiotic relationship with the ghost of magnus, Ms. Honey's father. This is mostly based off the movie, book, and Broadway show. In the show, we see her have conversations with this ghost, but we will get to that later. First, let's go through Magnus' orgin story: he was an escapilogist who's wife was murdered by Trunchbull. Later on, he was murdered by Trunchbull. If he was a ghost, what would his "unfinished buisness" be? Get revenge, help his daughter, and get another chance to be a father figure. This is exactly what we see at the end of the movie. Once again, we see magnus' actions throughout the show. He was the one moving objects and reading minds. The Broadway show adds a new power to Matilda's power set: reading minds... maybe. She is able to tell the story of Magnus with extreme detail without even knowing. This could be because Magnus was telling her, she just wasn't realizing it. But hey, that's just a theory. A film theory. Also, check out the M.I.A files. It's an obscure ARG with lore more complicated than fnaf.

[@hashimmooraj6239]

how would you account for the explanation of 'her brain not being able to do much and therefore used its force on other object' provided by the book/movie

[@n.e.r.dcomicsinc9212]

@@hashimmooraj6239 This is not how brain science works. Humans use 100% of their brains on a daily basis, minus people on Twitter. If you attempt to use science to justify something, that immediately invites scientific scrutiny.

[@joshwhite5730]

I just saw my high schools preformance of matilda last week and now I'm seeing this cool theory

[@stapuft]

what you neglect to mention is that the "comics code" seal was a COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY thing, you had to submit the comic to them and if they approved it you got the stamp, but it was 100% voluntary, you didnt have to submit it, there were no laws forcing comics to get rated, there still arent. funnily enough its the same for movies, but NOT tv shows, tv shows are required by law to be rated, but the MPAA movie rating system is a completely voluntary process. in the united states only things that get "freely broadcast over the air" have to be rated, and censored to comply with FCC regulations, that means radio, and tv, but nothing else. Also the comics code authority still exists today. Though NO ONE has submitted a comic to them since 2011, when both archie and DC comics finally stopped cowtowing.

[@DFloyd84]

Yes, getting the seal was voluntary, but the distributors wouldn't carry your book if it didn't.

[@alalalala57]

@@DFloyd84 Yep. I love how folks don't understand history.

[@stapuft]

@@DFloyd84 ONLY the "big box stores" did that, to "maintain a 'healthy image'", everywhere else sold whatever they could to make money, especially the smaller stores.

[@VoidKing666]

Honestly, I wouldn’t mind more violence or gore (although I’m not asking for it). The problem is the s*xy stuff - I want to enjoy the MCU, not hate it. My friends and I already go on rants with each other about how Eternals didn’t need that scene of them shirtless on the beach, and we wouldn’t be able to watch the movies at all if they were r rated.

[@stevenscott2136]

Yeah, I never got the appeal of that in movies. The whole plot comes to a dead stop while the characters do a weird yoga performance under blue light, and we're supposed to believe they're hooking up. Then they instantly put their underwear back on, argue a bit, and then the movie restarts. I came to see giant robots punching monsters, dammit!

[@teddybear8348]

@@stevenscott2136 that own you

[@izzylandyt]

If they go R rated, it should be similar to Zack Snyder JL. They don’t have sexual stuff. Just more language and gore.

[@jesusmejia79]

6:12-6:13 the problem is that there a multiverse that including many of these characters/movies into one thing

[@Sakaki98]

“Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, and the show that shall not be named” *wheeze*

[@Plutophob1a]

why shall it not be named?

[@NemFX]

Ethan Hawke is playing a minor character from an incomplete Moon Knight two parter. That was always Moon Knight's biggest problem, he's competent so he doesn't really have many enemies that last.

[@benito23453]

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[@bextomoose]

3:31 But... Spider-Man

[@deniseorta6409]

You know what i just found out matt has never done a theory on cloudy with a chance of meatballs like is it actually possible to turn water in burgers and are we just being monsters and killing all those cows