Final Fight Streetwise - What Happened?

[@MattMcMuscles]

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[@quincykristian5479]

you probably dont care at all but does someone know a method to get back into an instagram account..? I was stupid lost my login password. I appreciate any tips you can give me.

[@Zetact_]

"[Final Fight Streetwise] THREATENED to come out later that winter" is probably one of my favorite phrases I've heard in a while.

[@danknecoarc7174]

All that is left to say is: Thank GOD this isn’t how streets of rage 4 turned out.

[@Kolbatsu]

The story of FFSW is a story with a moral most company execs seem to never learn. Don't chase trends especially if you're using an established IP

[@CegeRoles]

@@GiordanDiodato Nioh wasn't an established IP though.

[@CegeRoles]

@@JFJD BEST. JINGLE. EVER.

[@RevanChist100]

*coughs* Assassin's Creed Odyssey *coughs*

[@damienthonk1506]

Trends usually happen for a reason: because they were good. Then devs get lazy, and it brings the trend down. So the lesson here REALLY is to actually give a damn and actually try to innovate instead of doing something "because everyone else was."

[@lonelywolf5659]

Looks at anime. People never learn. Now we got people say Edgy protagonist from anime are breath of fresh air now. I'm looking at them like have you seen the early 2000s too late 2000s. I already had my fill of dark gritty protagonist and story. Especially if you're 90s kid That grew up to this generation with all that.

[@Yuli_Ban]

2006 was the year everyone jumped onto the "darker and edgier reboot" train, wasn't it?

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

Yup, that shitty year began the "Real is brown" era.

[@anothergamer112]

@@KaiserMattTygore927 I'll never understand that mindset. Why brown instead of just a bit of desaturation? Have these people ever even been outside? There are so many colors that just pop when it's midday, especially outside of metropolitan settings.

[@MatthewCobalt]

It would be more appropriate to say they jump in front of the train.

[@AvariceOverlord]

Reboots yes, but the edgy mentality started well past the 90s

[@doge-pal]

@@KaiserMattTygore927 Brown bothers you that much, hmm?

[@JacksonJinn]

Maaaaan, I'm imagining this game redone in the style of Yakuza. It's not that far off. Just add some better fasttravel, make the city feel more alive and colorful instead of the GTA nonsense, heck go for the gusto with a plot and side missions that make use of Street Fighter and Final Fight lore. There's a lot of options I'm sad they didn't make use of just hearing about all this.

[@kingoflions827]

Sadly Yakuza wasnt doing well back then since kids liked their GTAs and would go "what the fuck is this fake shit?" Thankfully we have now left that era so if Capcom would try to make something like this with abit more budget I can see it succeed.

[@thegamingprozone1941]

And remove the guns like seriously this is final fight not gta.

[@NuclearCherries]

I'm gonna bet Keiji Inafune had some influence in the transition to the dark and gritty style. A ton of fuck ups in Capcom can be directly linked to him, so I wouldn't be surprised.

[@dracocrusher]

Where the heck was all this info before Mighty No. 9? The more I hear about Inafune, the more insane it is that people JUST knew him as 'the creator of Megaman' and nobody was really warning people about all the stupid decisions he made.

[@whiteninji352]

dracocrusher probably because until later on Megaman was always seen as a game series that was cherished by many and had very few faults.

[@dracocrusher]

@@whiteninji352 But why was that the ONLY thing Inafune was known for when he was behind so many other massive Capcom failures? Even the SuperbestFriends got duped by the whole Mighty No. 9 thing.

[@easter_god]

@@dracocrusher didn't he have a part in dead rising

[@jasonmitchell4096]

Luckily we all made it past Conmans level.

[@Chuckyd1515]

ha, actually enjoyed this game as a kid, i still have it in a box somewhere. soundtrack was bomb too

[@BDTXIII]

I usually dig the arcade mode more than the actual game, it's guilty pleasure for gamers who wanted to unleash their stress through button smashing.

[@Phoenix_SMT]

Soundtrack for Streetwise was really good

[@EVA_TESTT]

I loved and replayed Streetwise and Beatdown countless times. I still don't know why people think they're bad.

[@PsyrenXY]

The swearing montage in a japanese game was hilarious 😂

[@shadowpumper]

the unknown character in Seven Sons is most likely if not defenitly Dean from Final Fight 3, and from the look of it, the game was supposed to feature a similar combat style to Final Fight 3 with special attacks and powers.

[@natehandford5030]

Yeah he looks a lot like him

[@liquidsaberz02]

The character had a move where he engulfs his fist in lightning and punches straight, so it could’ve been Dean since he has lightning-based attacks. Though one of Kyle’s earlier designs looks similar to the one in Seven Sons.

[@bloodstormpro1]

Holy hell Trent Kaniuga! I remember him being a hot comic book artist when he was like 17. I never knew what happened to him after the buzz died down, but he had a really cool unique style.

[@Inerrant1]

Matt! Do a WHA HAPPUN to the Legacy of Kain series! Particularly the sadness that is the Nosgoth arena fighter replacing Dead Sun. I mean, it's a goddamn tragedy and will break my heart hearing the story again, but the people must know!

[@MagicalManFromMars]

Sad thing is, even Dead Sun looked nothing like what LoK actually was. For as shitty as Nosgoth was, at least it took place in the same world and tried to reference the old games. Dead Sun didn't even seem to take place in the same world, the characters were uninteresting and confusing, didn't seem to have any ties to the original story or characters. It even had a dick joke, for hell's sake, like what the fuck? I'm probably in the minority of people that are actually kinda glad that shit show got scrapped, since at least it didn't get the chance to disgrace the series like Nosgoth did. I will agree on the WHA HAPPUN episode suggestion for Nosgoth, though.

[@Kenshiro3rd]

MagicalManFromMars actually it looked a LOT like how the original Blood Omen looked in terms of art and atmosphere.

[@Kenshiro3rd]

1r0zz same series? yes. same game? no. I'm comparing Dead Sun to Blood Omen, not the rest of the series which was vastly different from the rest of the series in terms aesthetics, music, and gameplay. The original blood omen was a ravenloft inspired, gothic western, dark fantasy, adventure game in the vein of Zelda. The music was much more dark and atmospheric rather than the dark industrial electronica inspired soundtrack. Dead Sun's aesthetics and tone were much more inline with it rather the rest of the series. This is ESP evident in the music which is/was EXTREMELY reminiscent of Blood Omen's.

[@Slann88]

MagicalManFromMars totally in agreement. What happened to the awesome scripts, amazing voice acting. It looked like a pile of crap to me. I’m not normally one who has issues with “bad language” but it was so glaringly out of place in an LoK game I couldn’t take it. Pissed me off when playing Nosgoth let alone in Dead Sun. Thank God it didn’t come out

[@marialuke2116]

@@MagicalManFromMars Nosgoth didn't even follow the lore correctly, what are you talking about?

[@MatheusSM1000]

Damn, that was sad. As a fan of the Final Fight franchise, that early build looks like it would be SO fun to play, and a nice transition to 3D...

[@Whymelow]

all you say is true, but when I played this game i loved it, especially the fighting mechanics

[@GitraSilvermane]

I only remember this game becuase years ago my friend and I went to San Diego Comic con and Capcom had a booth there. They had grab bags that I think where $10 or $15. I got two and both had Final Fight Streetwise in them. At least the other stuff in the bags were cool. Megaman alarm clock, SF4 headband, Megaman Star Force Pegasus, and Zac and Wikki stickers. All I remember thinking when I opened the first one was, "Sweet. A game. Hope it goods." But when I opened the second one and saw it again, I thought, "Both bags? Oh no. This doesn't seem like a good sign." Edit: I forgot. Both also had a copy of Beat down.

[@parrishharris3008]

WOW

[@Montesama314]

Imagine how this could look today under the creators of the Yakuza games.

[@MisterCrim]

Some obvious suggestions are Godhand, Two Worlds, and Kingdoms of Amalur.

[@fistoftheworldking3834]

It got its credit the week after reviews slammed it. Fact of the matter is a lot of people truly are A) terrible at the game and diss it or B) had no intention of buying it regardless of what anyone said.

[@supersasukemaniac]

Kingdoms of Amalur was a preety good game, but Curt Shilling was a shit business man.

[@wilmagregg3131]

@@supersasukemaniac kingdoms of amulor was a amazing rpg i loved it to death ill never forget the battle agasint that giants cyclops which changes the cutscene depending on your class

[@DSan-kl2yc]

@@fistoftheworldking3834 I'm both terrible at the game and bought/ loved it.

[@d4cgaming570]

Considering that you guys make fun of it a lot and it's a 3D beat-em up, how about a what happun of "The Bouncer"

[@elimgarak4667]

I was about to write the same comment.

[@gigaganon]

but the bouncer isn't that bad, i enjoyed it, sure it has some big flaws but i don't think it would deserve to be on "what happun"

[@pretentiouscarrot4292]

gigaganon it does

[@ErolGamel]

@@gigaganon lol i enjoyed beatdown more than the bouncer, most boring shit ever...

[@Omicron9999]

And that's another game everyone hates that I really enjoyed. It's definitely flawed, and more than a bit fucking stupid, but it's a fun game for what it is, especially considering it was a really early PS2 game. That and the bit where the soldiers airdrop themselves out of a plane in metal torpedo casings that leave their feet sticking out when they land cracks me up every time.

[@superfourplayerfridays3985]

Shout-out to that 3rd Let's play from that weird Sw1tcher channel... I wonder where they went?

[@manuelmateo3392]

For real. I remember they had some weird third guy in there at a few points. Would've liked to see what else he could do.

[@prestonparrish4623]

This is way too real

[@tehn00bdude]

Preston Parrish This comment took a completely new tone after Christmas...

[@kaydwessie296]

@@tehn00bdude Wait what happened??

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@kaydwessie296 Total disbandment.

[@XellosNi]

Sega: Our edgier game needs more swearing. But not TOO much. Capcom: Our edgier game needs more swearing. Ninja Theory: Our edgier reboot of a Capcom Franchise needs more swearing. Even though it's already Mature-rated.

[@GatorRay]

Gotta admit. I watched this episode after you were on Stop Skeletons from Fighting's episode of How The West Was Worse on Final Fight because I wanted to know more about the trainwreck that is Final Fight Streetwise. I've now subscribed because this episode was so good that I want to see more of this series.

[@MattMcMuscles]

Lots of other videos in the playlist!

[@GatorRay]

@@MattMcMuscles I know.

[@loogi9281]

I actually loved this game as a kid and returned to it often. The biggest trouble i had was that dumbass keypad that i looked up the combination for, it was satisfying freeing your brother from the drug

[@nightmaregats]

I had so much fun with FFSW. Even tho i knew it was bad, I actually had a ton of fun. No matter how bad a game is, if you have fun with it, it can be the best game and no one can say otherwise.

[@daehan8227]

Honestly it would be gnarly to see Seven Son's Demo released to the world. Knowing how the unreleased games Dinosaur Planet and Magic Castle were released to everyone that wanted to emulate these games.

[@michel0dy]

The saddest part to rewatch this video is looking at Seven Sons and thinking how cool it looks. It's the kind of game I'd be so excited to have on my ps2

[@azurepixels]

It's so sad that Seven Sons actually looked like a really well made and fun game

[@Omicron9999]

Thing is, I actually really liked Beatdown. Been meaning to get it again at some point, thanks for the reminder.

[@Dookie5495]

Beat Down: Fist of Vengeance? Man, that’s the second time this week that game is mentioned towards me. The mid-2000s were the time of EDGE!!!

[@ahappyiguana2475]

Ok what`s there not to like about that seven sons prototype. It looks amazing.

[@ahappyiguana2475]

They should`ve just stayed with that prototype.

[@nosferadu]

Wow that Seven Sons early build looks AWESOME!! I'd love to play it even now. But no, some idiot in a suit had to go and ruin it for everybody.

[@austinreynolds436]

#streetwise2ndgig

[@sora2211]

NO. NO NO NO NO NO...NOOOOOOOO.

[@Tearonex]

YES A MILLION TIMES YES! Hopefully Woolie sticks around for the whole thing!

[@femboiuwu]

Beat Down is actually an awesome game. I played it and completed it back in the day. The character customization is awesome, story is anime but its good enough, and the combat is kinda fun.

[@femboiuwu]

@@shawnganske8731 i agree! it has a charm :3 wow... a year already passed wtf..

[@mangocoal]

Interesting video as always. This series is great! I appreciate the work you put into the research, the editing, the clear and concise voice-over, and the placement of relevant footage in all of them. Please keep up the good work as long as you’re willing and able.

[@majortom331]

I hope there's a death by degrees video in the future.

[@musicallystoned7489]

Growing up, I actually loved FFSW. Still do. So I was quite surprised when I found out about all the negativity associated with the game. Kinda breaks my heart. Haven't played it in over a decade. Won't forget all the great memories.

[@system-error]

I started playing it for the first time a few months ago, I own it but I don't know how I own it. It's good! It's legitimately good, I'm enjoying it. Hitting someone with a baseball bat in this game is so satisfying. And I love how it's like an RPG in the Final Fight world. Plus it has the original Final Fight in it, so if you get bored you can play that instead. How can it be worse than original Final Fight, when it contains original Final Fight inside itself. I think it's been very unfairly maligned!

[@simen30]

people can’t enjoy anything anymore

[@john18563]

it is a great game. i still fear those japanese girls in japan town. those that dodge out of combos. great arcade mode too.

[@BendApparatus]

lol i just made the same comment...still have my xbox copy...

[@playahsan]

I might be one of the few people who enjoyed this game, despite it's flaws.

[@yasenyaso9739]

playahsan my brother from another mother

[@deeznutsandbolts9676]

I enjoyed it thoroughly, even with its flaws. Still have the PS2 copy.

[@robertpeacock894]

I didn’t even know this game existed!

[@xombiegriffin]

Y'know, I feel really bad for Trent. Those designs looked pretty good, especially Poison and Sodom. And as for a suggestion, how about the cancelled Legacy of Kain game Dead Sun? It was turned into Nosgoth and yeah...

[@HolyGoddessMotherAnne]

He did it now,yay.

[@mrk0per]

I found this channel by accident. And what a happy accident it was! These are great!

[@tehn00bdude]

Well Jr Welcome to the Flophouse!

[@TheDogSamurai]

Then late last year, in an interview with Shinji Mikami by Archipel, Mikami said he played Streetwise, said it was shit and basically made God Hand out of spite when he went over to Clover.

[@beector2010]

Throwing shade at street fighter was uncalled for hahaha 😭

[@SkateDied]

When's Mahvel Infinite?

[@DintheAbary]

My guilty pleasure.

[@starcast3905]

Now I know the true reason Cody went to jail, he was punished for being involved with this game.

[@Adamtendo_player_1]

The saddest part is that Final Fight Streetwise could have been great if it had stuck to its original vision.

[@TheSerpentsEye]

"Cammy-O cameo"

[@johannarniandresson2061]

Speaking of obvious, I'm surprised you haven't made a wha happun episode on Duke Nukem Forever. It has everything: Deadlines pushed back, multiple graphic engines changes and the game director going crazy with adding gameplay features he saw as trendy.

[@phantomspaceman]

Because it would be an hour-long video just to explain George Broussard.

[@Bill_Falsename]

my takeaway from this is that no company should EVER do what their marketing department says ever

[@geovani60624]

"relatable" is a word I really hate when it's thrown in any type of media, I don't want to relate to the characters, I want them to be interesting

[@Thaltas]

Wait a second, so the Capcom higher ups wanted a grounded and gritty "realistic" game, yet completely forgot the last quarter of the game everyone became fucking zombies and you end up fighting a stupidly OP zombie in a graveyard out of nowhere? If anything, the Final Fight character cameos would be the least of it's problem

[@ashurbanipal6121]

I never even heard of this game.. but it kinda looks similar to the warriors game .. KIND of.

[@Salmonator2000]

Crazy how a game based on a movie from 1979 that nobody remembers seems to play way better than a game from an established and well-respected IP.

[@phantomspaceman]

2:06 Sunnyvale, CA: Before the bombs fell.

[@chuckyluvsu13]

Such a shame because the early build of the game looked like fun, it gave me a Die Hard Arcade vibe.

[@palmettoprince6857]

Final Fight-Streetwise was not a perfect game. However, there was quite a bit to like. I enjoyed the story, the fighting, the surprise Capcom characters appearances & the soundtrack. The soundtrack was slamming'. Plus, it's a very dope side scrolling "new" arcade version that is unlockable through beating the game. Very Underrated!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@xDethax]

One of the funniest games ever made. Also, I can tell you recorded Streetwise in 16:9 because the camera perspective is totally fucked in that mode. It's messed up in both the Xbox and PS2 versions.

[@MikeFlamingo]

more of these! i love this series

[@BIMBOBOOP]

The character at that FINAL FIGHT SEVEN SONS beta , looks like DEAN from FINAL FIGHT 3, but wearing a cap. He uses electrical punches. He is a big guy with blonde long air using a hairstyle similar to Benimaru from KOF, just in this beta game his hair is under the cap. He even still shares the white T-shirt... I am guessing the idea was some kind of prequel about the backstory of Dean, cause at FF3 it was stated Dean haved personal previous issues with the Skull Cross Gang (They killed his family).

[@keijidash9646]

This game not only tried to be GTA, but it straight up jumps the shark and tries to be Resident Evil towards the end. There are literal zombies and monster type bosses. It goes off the rails with all these twists and reveals and I forgot I was playing a Final Fight game.

[@DarkkingForever]

This game is one of my guilty pleasures. I beat this game a few times

[@realheathlegend]

I actually really liked Beatdown back when it came out... I think it was mostly the aesthetic and soundtrack, however. I vote God Hand next. That game got absolutely savaged by reviewers when it came out.

[@Phoenix_SMT]

This was one of the games I played and replayed the most as a kid, it was one of games that made me love videogames, so I have a lot of nostalgia for it. Replaying it recently, I can see issues with it, but it aint that bad imo

[@TheLuckyDingo]

Seven Sons looked like it could have scratched my Die Hard Arcade itch...

[@haj_endot]

sometimes i forget just how gorgeous gymnopedie no 1 is, then i hear it and it's just like "oh right this song is a classic that is above most music ever created and it's gorgeous"

[@Ipsenscastle]

Was that footage of Too Human near the start? You NEED to do a Wha Happun on Too Human, it's like the Wha Happunest story ever

[@sheldoncooper8199]

Thank God we got Streets of Rage 4

[@jakey14344]

who came here after AVGN's episode about Final Fight Streetwise?

[@urbanscarecrow]

Me!

[@jeremiahhester6408]

Well yeah.

[@UltimateDragonX99999]

Same

[@williamdrum9899]

Yeah that was how I found Wha Happun?

[@UltimateDragonX99999]

Yeah pretty much that’s how found Matt mcmuscles channel and what happened series.

[@eric44ism]

I don't know about all you guys but I liked this game. I wish they would have made the last streets of rage game like this since these 2 games are damn near the same.

[@Darksmiter]

ok, anyone know what that piano song used at 4:50 is? I've heard it other places, and I want to know.

[@sydshow65]

Darksmiter gotchu fam it’s gymnopedie no. 1

[@troymacdonald6197]

yesss! This was the video I was waiting for

[@ParallelParadigms]

It’s funny they drew inspiration from Rockstar to make a gritty, semi open world, beat em up type of game, only for Rockstar to do the same and succeed, The Warriors lol

[@1llsilk]

15:32....what song is that..i know Ive heard it before...

[@RetroRanter]

Loved beat down 😂 "Wanker, that's all you'll ever be!"

[@RetroRanter]

@@VIeshPilled yes! I feel a modern day release would have suited it well. 😂

[@RetroRanter]

@@EvilRyuGuy the guy should be in some crossover games 😂 his fight intro and outros would be amazing.

[@ErolGamel]

yep, i loved beatdown lol

[@telathys]

Haze when?

[@Knopantz]

KZbin: “Matt has a new video!” Me: “Wha Happun to my pants?!”

[@AlphaBushido]

Matt McMuscles that's character you're seeing at around 5:40 seems like Dean from Final Fight 3 he has the same lighting thrust hit as a special the unnamed character has and is dressed very similarly Although not seeing his 360 spin hit.

[@Chiro_Cody]

wait...Maximo was GHOSTS AND GOBLINS?!??

[@Dylan_Platt]

14:18 "Cammy-Os"

[@aquaticlibrary]

This game is fun as hell btw

[@Tearonex]

I feel I have to rewatch the LP now...

[@jksanrio]

Quick question, what is that piano piece called? Thanks!

[@fruitsalad5802]

gymnopedie no. 1 erik satie

[@preamstrikbiz0]

You’ve talked about final fight revenge , with plopping in your 4m fam cart or pseudo Saturn flashed action replay

[@neandercan]

The warriors was everything streetwise wanted to be but couldn't achieve, not even close

[@Ltasty]

Honestly I loved this game. Played it when I was like 14/15. Tbf though I hadn't played the earlier games in the series so wasn't expecting that classic beat em up style.

[@karmapolice535]

This game is way better than anyone gives it credit for.

[@misterrabbit9199]

I am enjoying your use of Satie in these :3

[@PanelPanda]

If Streets of Rage could make a comeback It makes me hope that we get a new Final Fight preferably 2D (Though I wouldn't mind 3D) and throw Kyle in there again as one of the playable characters why not.

[@marionhope7506]

Agreed! I actually like FINAL FIGHT: STREETWISE and want another 3D FINAL FIGHT beat em’ up!!

[@johnlukecampbell3140]

12:00 What is this song playing? It sounds so familiar, I want to say FF Type 0 but I'm probably wrong.

[@DaGroundUnder]

The game is honestly not half bad, unpolished yes but it definitely had potential, i enjoyed the hell out of it

[@gates7831]

Remember, Woolie beat The Stiff on his first try.

[@orlandorosas6159]

what is the piano song here?!

[@duckhuntdog]

Ma dude, where's the music at 0:19 from?

[@haj_endot]

gymnopedie no. 1 by erik satie, one of those weirdly timeless songs that doesn't sound like it's anywhere near 19th century

[@flightgravity7483]

Man, the most noteworthy thing about Beat Down is that it was developed by Cavia.

[@class122]

Am i the only one who had fun with both Final Fight and Beatdown when they were released? No? Okay :(

[@broprogamers1048]

I actually really enjoyed this game. I used to stay up with my brothers and try to beat it. Sucks that it got this bad of ratings and everything

[@caseykim1293]

The game definitely was fun for me but it's no question that it lacked by just looking back.

[@BzaafiedTheYatagarasu]

You should do Urban Reign in this. Urban Reign is one of those games that got review bombed around the period it came out and I'll never understand it. It's ome of the most solid beat 'em ups I've played, and most reviews thst bash it are basically "it's too hard and it made me angry".

[@trynahelp]

Great episode, love this series

[@jordanbean2684]

What is the piano piece subtly playing at the beginning of the video?

[@brotherjamesstrang]

Jordan Bean Eric Satie

[@liquidsaberz02]

Really wished Seven Sons was made, the combat looked so dope. Using different button combinations, swinging a parking meter, launching thugs into the air and piledriving them. The game also apparently took place in Metro City, 2010.

[@devonbocka226]

I wish Capcom would have went with Final Fight Seven Sons.

[@dashboots376]

Try Lair, I would like to see why a Dragon Flight game made by the people behind Rogue Squadron went so wrong, I also know that it was at one point going to be based on the Dragonlance setting from D&D and combined with the mandate from Sony to force Motion controls it must have an interesting story behind its development.