FINALLY! The New Jeep Gladiator EcoDiesel Is Here, And It's The Most Expensive Jeep Truck Ever!

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GIVE THE GIFT OF A TFL T-SHIRT! You know the truck and car lovers on your list want one. (www.duckco.com/tfl-store). After months of anticipation, we finally have our hands on the Jeep Gladiator EcoDiesel, and we'll be testing it over the coming weeks. Here's an up-close look!
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@JonBecker81
@JonBecker81 3 жыл бұрын
“Nobody else in the midsizers is offering a Diesel engine” Colorado- “ do I mean nothing to you??”
@dztransportsinc1018
@dztransportsinc1018 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly and has proof of real world mpg with over 30 mpg and people reporting almost 40 mpg actually so yeah much better option and @ a way better price
@JonBecker81
@JonBecker81 3 жыл бұрын
@@dztransportsinc1018 and the non zr2 diesel Colorados can tow a hell of a lot for a mid size truck.
@dbepic6996
@dbepic6996 3 жыл бұрын
Didnt they make a 3 liter turbo inline 6, too? I'd take that any day over the Eco V6
@JonBecker81
@JonBecker81 3 жыл бұрын
@@dbepic6996 I’m not sure about that. I know they have a 2.0 liter turbo. Supposed to be pretty good.
@theskunkworks
@theskunkworks 3 жыл бұрын
@@dbepic6996 The 3.0 inline 6 diesel isn't available in the Colorado/Canyon twins. Only the half ton segment. But I think they're going to add it to GM SUV's soon.
@DSeely0902
@DSeely0902 3 жыл бұрын
We’ve been waiting for a midsize diesel truck for decades. GM enters chat...
@dirf554
@dirf554 3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly when he said that come on TFL show some love for the Bison package with diesel!!
@HiPlains1
@HiPlains1 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah and quite frankly, the Colorado diesel is the only good one they make being their 8 speed auto is totally gimped with problems. Its the only truck that is pretty much what they sell overseas and IMO, overseas diesel trucks destroy the American offerings. Plus that one has a bullet proof 6 speed. Nothing wrong with that 2.8 duramax which is actually imported to the US from Asia. Probably why its harder to find them.
@jonshap6163
@jonshap6163 3 жыл бұрын
After doing 10 zr2 duramax reviews you think they would remember other diesel mid size trucks.
@SuperBlackhawkdriver
@SuperBlackhawkdriver 3 жыл бұрын
GM: "Am I a joke to you"
@marineraider-1138
@marineraider-1138 3 жыл бұрын
TFL Truck are FORD fan boys.
@The_Osprey
@The_Osprey 3 жыл бұрын
GMC Canyon and Chevrolet Colorado beg to differ. Still have diesels available.
@7171-Ws6
@7171-Ws6 3 жыл бұрын
Ya. Why did they think it’s the first midsize with a diesel??
@JOHNJ0HN9111
@JOHNJ0HN9111 3 жыл бұрын
SO DOES THE RANGER... NOT FOR AMERICA MARKET BUT STILL CAN GET IT
@J.Young808
@J.Young808 3 жыл бұрын
If we are talking non American market the Toyota Hilux comes with Diesel
@kabloosh699
@kabloosh699 3 жыл бұрын
higher towing capacity too in the diesel models. This Jeep Gladiator diesel model sounds cool until you see the stats then it falls flat. Just about every other midsize truck sounds more appealing in other areas.
@Thejikarim
@Thejikarim 3 жыл бұрын
It may be a diesel but it doesn’t have the same torque power than the gladiator does and the diesel so I do beg to differ and if you want to be in the same comparisons of the canyon or a Colorado just get a sports it’ll do the same thing for a lot less money than the Chevy Colorado or the GMC Canyon I was a true believer of General Motors but the power that they put On them is nothing like the jeep gladiator and average 25 MPG
@MitchMAH
@MitchMAH 3 жыл бұрын
GM has been putting diesel in their mid size trucks for a few years now.
@THOMASGPII
@THOMASGPII 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/mF6opnimqcRmnM0
@syxepop
@syxepop 3 жыл бұрын
This 2G 3.0L V6 EcoDiesel came from VM Motori in Italy, originally a JV between Fiat and GM. Just when GM sold their part to Fiat they took with them the blueprints for the TD-2.8L I4 they've both developed. GM modified it to put it into the 2G Colorado / Canyon, while FCA made their own version for overseas JK Wranglers and enlarged it to 3.0L (used in today's Ram Pro Master large vans).
@ShadowOppsRC
@ShadowOppsRC 3 жыл бұрын
@@syxepop Correct.
@nealaskme6272
@nealaskme6272 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly...and I love that they make it sound like this has never been done before....lol
@kahless0173
@kahless0173 3 жыл бұрын
no its been decades. its been decades since they did this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKLGiqBqlJ1jjMk
@darens440
@darens440 3 жыл бұрын
Colorado ZR2 diesel looks like a way cheaper option than this.
@syxepop
@syxepop 3 жыл бұрын
GM's TD (originally developed before the EcoDiesel at the same VM Motori building, but was modified later by GM) is an I4, while the EcoDiesel has a slightly larger displacent (3.0L vs. 2.8L) V6, which does account for MO' POWAH.
@bobsagit10
@bobsagit10 3 жыл бұрын
@@syxepop much rather have a 2.8L Duramax over a FCA Diesel engine. Also significantly cheaper car with just as much offroad capabilities. Front and rear lockers, rock rails, skid plates steel bumper winch mounts. Bison with Diesel is like 50k
@torycairns
@torycairns 3 жыл бұрын
He Keeps saying this is the only midsize diesel yet he keeps forgetting about the Colorado zr2 and the gmc version wtf?
@jason7231
@jason7231 3 жыл бұрын
Tfl is the most biased "non biased" vehicle review channel I've seen. If it's jeep, it's the best, according to them
@syxepop
@syxepop 3 жыл бұрын
@@jason7231 - you have to understand there are certain vehicles, like Teslas, Jeeps and all full-sized US 3 pickups that has a RABID FANBOI BASE that makes IMPOSSIBLE a TRULLY OBJECTIVE review on any of those (at least to the people who owns one of those vehicles mentioned).
@jamesbuttitta
@jamesbuttitta 3 жыл бұрын
Andre keeps saying this is the only diesel available on a midsize truck. Diesel is also available on a Colorado and you can loaded Bison ZR2 for $15000 less than that Jeep, with more pay load and better seats
@chadhanson4369
@chadhanson4369 3 жыл бұрын
Do doors and top come off? Not to mention the jeep community And way worse resale value than the jeep so it cost u thousands more in the long run to own a Chevy.
@dallannorrish1587
@dallannorrish1587 3 жыл бұрын
But cant tow as much
@Bpf1893
@Bpf1893 3 жыл бұрын
@@chadhanson4369 Resale on the bison and ZR2 is great.... and you can have more than 900 lbs of payload.
@nottoday7495
@nottoday7495 3 жыл бұрын
The diesel and the 3.8 are getting axed after this year
@jacehiggs3637
@jacehiggs3637 3 жыл бұрын
@@chadhanson4369 resale on any jeep is horrible! Jeep is surviving purely off being the only overlanding manufacturer and the history of their name which is honestly actually a farce because "jeep" was a joint project from Willys, Ford, and Bantam. Jeep was actually an acronym that later became a brand name to make money off the lore of the vehicle through WWII.
@MichaelJanzen
@MichaelJanzen 3 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed they didn't beef it up to give it a higher payload rating. That's kind of a deal killer.
@weirdshibainu
@weirdshibainu 3 жыл бұрын
It's not meant to tow.
@ramirotorres7191
@ramirotorres7191 3 жыл бұрын
They kinda can't without a major overhaul of the frame or the suspension and not to mention the diesel engine weighs more then the other engines too
@gs98999
@gs98999 3 жыл бұрын
Best selling truck in the land has similar payload. My 4 door Tacoma was 950 lbs. and that wasn’t even the pro. Don’t think many people buying those care.
@AEsco48
@AEsco48 3 жыл бұрын
The towing capacity is decreased due only to heat Managment.
@Minimalist1266
@Minimalist1266 3 жыл бұрын
@@weirdshibainu For guys and you are overloaded. That payload is a joke. My Jett had more than that.
@jefffalks1519
@jefffalks1519 3 жыл бұрын
Andre: “Nobody else in the US, as far as midsizers are concerned, are offering a diesel.” Me * two minutes on the Chevy online configurer: 2021 Colorado ZR2 with the 2.8 Duramax, $49,190 including the tent for over landing.
@richarde.6750
@richarde.6750 3 жыл бұрын
Jeep is relying on their name and the demand for better fuel mileage.
@Big.W.
@Big.W. 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff Falks I think he meant the other midsize trucks don’t offer a diesel 6 cylinder.
@Frignothanks
@Frignothanks 3 жыл бұрын
They are killing the 2.8L Duramax for the 2021 mode year
@jefffalks1519
@jefffalks1519 3 жыл бұрын
@@Frignothanks except that, as I stated, I configured a 2021 with the 2.8 duramax.
@betweenthepines4000
@betweenthepines4000 3 жыл бұрын
Go with the ZR2.... anyone who questions Jeep reliability is blind that GM has been suffering terrible initial quality for years now. Lots of used Colorados out there for damn near nothing.
@offroad-adventure
@offroad-adventure 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine what the 392 Gladiator will cost!
@HiPlains1
@HiPlains1 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah and unlike the diesel, the 392 will only be available on the highest of trims. It will be purchased mostly by collectors and promptly put to storage.
@Equinsu_Ocha
@Equinsu_Ocha 3 жыл бұрын
392 won't come out in gladiator. Atleast not right away.
@tree356
@tree356 3 жыл бұрын
@@HiPlains1 bullshit.
@richardthomas1531
@richardthomas1531 3 жыл бұрын
392 makes sense in the Mojave Gladiator.
@bozzyb7109
@bozzyb7109 2 жыл бұрын
@@HiPlains1 I have a 392 jl and I use it. No storage needed. I'm waiting for the gladiator so I can do a trade in.
@James_Hough
@James_Hough 3 жыл бұрын
So I just did a “Build and Price” on a Chevy Colorado....
@bvon336
@bvon336 3 жыл бұрын
We just bought one. Z71 crew cab diesel. Might get here this week. I used the review Andre and mr truck did a while back as a guide. So I know they know about it!
@CT-go5ii
@CT-go5ii 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 2016 diesel Colorado. Great truck with great fuel mileage!
@thereissomecoolstuff
@thereissomecoolstuff 3 жыл бұрын
Not the same truck.
@sellickusa
@sellickusa 2 жыл бұрын
Color matched top would be another $2500 and color matched fenders is another $695
@alexs3187
@alexs3187 3 жыл бұрын
I paid $61k for a brand new 3500 Denali Duramax last year. The gross profit margins on these things must be huge!
@Em_jiggy
@Em_jiggy 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a solid deal bro 👍
@Nickat1ne707
@Nickat1ne707 3 жыл бұрын
I paid 68 for my 19 high country dually like 8 months ago
@michaelglusko1024
@michaelglusko1024 3 жыл бұрын
What’s the point in a diesel option if it reduces towing/payload capacity?
@aulyando1645
@aulyando1645 3 жыл бұрын
Better mpg i think
@kidamere2408
@kidamere2408 3 жыл бұрын
@@aulyando1645 but would take years to make up the money you spent on the engine, its a bad deal all around
@sroodtuo
@sroodtuo 3 жыл бұрын
Torque. Not MPG. If you’re getting into the Diesel for fuel economy think again. It will take quite some time for it to pay for itself on MPG alone.
@rl9810
@rl9810 3 жыл бұрын
@@kidamere2408 It's not the money. It's driving in secluded places where there aren't as many fuel stations.
@The_Opinion_of_Matt
@The_Opinion_of_Matt 3 жыл бұрын
Fuel range and torque. That said I'm disappointed with the payload and towing numbers too. Diesel fuel economy makes it ideal for overlanding. Payload rating makes it a poor choice for overlanding.
@thatjohn8538
@thatjohn8538 3 жыл бұрын
So less payload than a Corolla? Makes sense.
@paulmichaels3655
@paulmichaels3655 3 жыл бұрын
Says who?
@KTMcaptain
@KTMcaptain 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulmichaels3655 says FCA. It’s under 900 lbs. you can’t even tow 4000 lbs safely with two adults and some gear. If you have 4 200 lbs adults in the car it’s basically maxed out with a bag of groceries.
@royalloyalty8248
@royalloyalty8248 3 жыл бұрын
@@KTMcaptain bro Itll pull a fully loaded tractor trailer uphill on a snowy incline!. It has a LOT of torque. They always put it as less than it can do. Jeep diesels have GREAT torque!
@KTMcaptain
@KTMcaptain 3 жыл бұрын
@@royalloyalty8248 it’s not about the torque, which is substantial given the gearing. It’s about the rating and whether you follow those standards.
@kalebgustavo585
@kalebgustavo585 3 жыл бұрын
@@royalloyalty8248 no it won’t.
@collingodbey3737
@collingodbey3737 3 жыл бұрын
From now on when I turn my vehicles off I'm saying I am putting them on pause.
@patrickyoung5348
@patrickyoung5348 3 жыл бұрын
Remember to put it on rewind before selling it.
@robertyoung8289
@robertyoung8289 3 жыл бұрын
70k and you get to hold your hood up with a stick. 🤔
@americansmark
@americansmark 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it had a soft open tailgate either. Ridiculous
@Hobinator17
@Hobinator17 3 жыл бұрын
@@kurtgurkan9974 it does for Canadians probably
@CarlosGarcia-ox7dm
@CarlosGarcia-ox7dm 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, and like my 1980 CJ-7, it will never fail. Unlike gas struts.
@resistthesystem6145
@resistthesystem6145 3 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosGarcia-ox7dm I’ll take a stick any day, heck place a pillow between the hood and windshield to enable complete access to the engine bay.
@68061678
@68061678 3 жыл бұрын
@@americansmark you do realize that’s so you can open the hood all the way
@BreckoniousMaximus
@BreckoniousMaximus 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always guys. I hope Jeep reads the comment sections so they know what the average buyer has to say about their product. I say, that thing is way too expensive and won't sell like Jeep thinks it will.
@HiPlains1
@HiPlains1 3 жыл бұрын
People pay stupid for Jeeps. I hope the god they don't do some 96 month term. Allot are going to 8 year loans. Just insanity.
@johnkraft5640
@johnkraft5640 3 жыл бұрын
Has my gladiator rubicon diesel for 2 months now. Perfect machine. I average 29 mpg at sea level with 35 inch tires.
@kitchentrout5867
@kitchentrout5867 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to burn fuel when you’re sitting at the repair shop lol
@johnkraft5640
@johnkraft5640 2 жыл бұрын
@@kitchentrout5867 that’s so cute. I have a gladiator and wrangler diesel and have had wrangler for 2 years and the gladiator for 1 year. Combined mileage of 30,000 miles. I have not had one issue. Not one. The only thing I could complain about the diesel is when it goes thru the cleaning cycle of the exhaust, you must drive it hard and try to let it finish it cycle before turning it off or parking in your garage.
@2005GMK
@2005GMK 3 жыл бұрын
For that price I’ll get a power wagon.
@weirdshibainu
@weirdshibainu 3 жыл бұрын
No kidding. These jeep prices are out of control
@richfarfugnuven6308
@richfarfugnuven6308 3 жыл бұрын
100%
@jsboening
@jsboening 3 жыл бұрын
Highly agree. 👍🏻
@taylor5542
@taylor5542 3 жыл бұрын
Brand new loaded PW's are $55k'ish. Much better choice
@Equinsu_Ocha
@Equinsu_Ocha 3 жыл бұрын
Wait til that 392 gets released. 20k upcharge
@larryborn1082
@larryborn1082 3 жыл бұрын
Come on Andre......forgetting about the Colorado? Rookie mistake........and $66k for a FIAT diesel? NFW!!!!! Get a Colorado Bison for around 50k.....
@caedom21
@caedom21 3 жыл бұрын
Jeeez. Paying $66k for a Chrysler product that isn’t named Viper... 🤯
@chadhanson4369
@chadhanson4369 3 жыл бұрын
Actually a Maserati made product under the completely different FCA
@Lianpe98
@Lianpe98 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to options and inflation
@jonlosito2004
@jonlosito2004 2 жыл бұрын
I mean… the Viper was twice or triple times the price of this…
@BudMasta
@BudMasta 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonlosito2004 The Viper also delivered on what sports cars do, go fast. This isnt a truck, its a corolla with more storage.
@iykej6
@iykej6 Жыл бұрын
Or a SRT
@bartwaggoner2000
@bartwaggoner2000 3 жыл бұрын
High cost / added complexity / expensive maintenance / expensive repairs / lower tow rating / higher weight penalty off-road / what’s not to like?
@libertystuffnthingsreviews829
@libertystuffnthingsreviews829 3 жыл бұрын
Newer diesels are not worth the cost. Girlfriend's 2021 JL Sport S is soft top, KO2s in 255/75R17 C and aluminum skid plate with the 2.0L non hybrid. She just drove from EC WI to KY yesterday and pulled a bit over 22 MPGs.
@BenLeBlanc1
@BenLeBlanc1 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like the colorado with a diesel beats this still...
@robertyoung8289
@robertyoung8289 3 жыл бұрын
You will get great mileage back and forth to the dealership for repairs.
@desertaliend_b9840
@desertaliend_b9840 3 жыл бұрын
Best mileage is a 2020 defender. Your never allowed to drive it.
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI 3 жыл бұрын
@@desertaliend_b9840 Sick BURN. Well done, Sir. 👌😎
@harlandurant7014
@harlandurant7014 3 жыл бұрын
The Chrysler/ Fiat 3.0 actually pretty reliable, we have 4 in our fleet with over 120k with no major issues. But 6 out of 6 of our 5.7 hemi has broken exhaust bolts with awful leak most happened before 100k . Dealer quotes 1500-2000 to repair.... Funny since its been in production for 15 years, figured exhaust bolts would be simple.
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI 3 жыл бұрын
@@harlandurant7014 can't vouch for the Diesel BUT there's not a single high mileage HEMI that rolls into the shop that doesn't TIC. You would think they could have figured out that one too by now, right ? 🤔
@mcss317
@mcss317 3 жыл бұрын
And they won’t even know how to fix it.
@1afchannel
@1afchannel 3 жыл бұрын
Andre has been waiting for this truck since he was born.
@GHinWI
@GHinWI 3 жыл бұрын
@10:00 that metal bar is like 40mm from the top of his head...looks like it’d cave the top of your skull in when you go over a big bump!?!? Also: “it’s a pretty premium place to be”...as we’re looking at painted sheetmetal interior on the roof.
@ipdjbt
@ipdjbt 3 жыл бұрын
That metal bar is a plastic sound bar, you twit.
@jacehiggs3637
@jacehiggs3637 3 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is the gladiator actually has the same cabin space as a 2 door wrangler. There is no ammentities in the wrangler or gladiator either. Going to have to step that game up when the bronco comes out with power seats, heated and cooled, heated steering wheel, power mirrors etc. Ridiculous to pay 50k+ for a jeep and have the options of a 90s Subaru brat.
@JustinKingOffroad
@JustinKingOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
OUCH i spent $10k less on my loaded up power wagon!
@patd4u2
@patd4u2 3 жыл бұрын
$66,000 wow! And that does not include destination fees markup from the dealer state tax. Well over $70,000 for that jeep
@fakeappellation7343
@fakeappellation7343 3 жыл бұрын
What car makers are doing is pricing their most wanted products for prices almost nobody can afford so it justifies the ridiculous prices they are asking for their entry level cars.
@JonBecker81
@JonBecker81 3 жыл бұрын
It’s gotten out of hand. A lot of it is because of all the tech in these things now. People expect to basically have an iPhone that they can drive. Then if you want to buy a base model without all the tech and want to modify it like adding new suspension, wheels, lockers, tune etc then they will try to void your warranty unless you pay the dealer an insane amount to do it all.
@JonBecker81
@JonBecker81 3 жыл бұрын
@@gerhardschulzy not only are they making more money on the cars themselves but they’re making more money on the financing. The longer the term the higher the interest rate is. A lot of car manufacturers have their own finance companies too. They’ve worked up the perfect scheme.
@davidanderson8871
@davidanderson8871 3 жыл бұрын
I wish they would cut the crap, put the 5.7 Hemi in the gladiator and be done with it. With 900 pounds payload you get your family in it and you don’t have room for your over weight dog. I really do like the gladiator but those numbers are not worth the 6k. For 66k you could get a fully loaded Ram Rebel, or a Ram 2500 with a Cummins.
@graemelliott3942
@graemelliott3942 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, the 5.7 should be available across the wrangler range not as a hot rod like the 6.2 but as an everyday hauler. It doesn’t have to be that expensive.
@Martin_from_SC
@Martin_from_SC 3 жыл бұрын
@@graemelliott3942 I think they dont want them eating into the Ram 1500 sales.
@graemelliott3942
@graemelliott3942 3 жыл бұрын
@@Martin_from_SC good point!
@CathodeRayNipplez
@CathodeRayNipplez 3 жыл бұрын
Could also get a real car that doesnt make one look like they have a small penis
@kahless0173
@kahless0173 3 жыл бұрын
what do you think the price would be for the hemi? and the payload rating wouldnt change at all. the ecodiesel only weighs 5lbs more than the 5.7l.
@ambee514
@ambee514 3 жыл бұрын
That is a whole lot of money for a vehicle that is less capable in almost every way. Also you forget about the Colorado/canyon? That still has a diesel
@HiPlains1
@HiPlains1 3 жыл бұрын
Gladiators are all expensive. Life style truck or whatever they call it. Even the base models are expensive. People don't by these for capability that's for sure. Its more of a statement or image builder. Doubt many will ever go off road..
@geog5523
@geog5523 3 жыл бұрын
Drove a 2020 Sport model with the 3.6 and it was doing 22mpg on a long trip. Very impressive considering that I have done the same trip on a 2020 Tacoma Sport 4wd and it did 19mpg. The price is the only reason the gladiator does not sell, it is a really good driving truck. That being said both the tacoma and gladiator drift a bit on the highway so constant steering correction is needed . The 8 speed transmission shifts like butter compared to the tacoma. Tfl really makes their viewers more critical of whats out there. Lol
@BudMasta
@BudMasta 2 жыл бұрын
"the only reason" lol, a chrystler products only reason is price, lol.
@perpelle
@perpelle 3 жыл бұрын
Embarrassing payload.
@jacobsibilski9339
@jacobsibilski9339 3 жыл бұрын
I believe it’s due to an inability to adequately cool the engine without changing the styling of the grill.
@dr3uu
@dr3uu 3 жыл бұрын
Payload and towing is sad
@miguelmarquez9435
@miguelmarquez9435 3 жыл бұрын
Garbage.... I can't believe it.
@dr3uu
@dr3uu 3 жыл бұрын
Soooo 392 gladiator in the future!? Hahaha
@tomcardale5596
@tomcardale5596 3 жыл бұрын
You put four people in it and you're pretty much fully loaded. That's ridiculous! As for adequate cooling etc... seems odd. A 1980s Land Rover was available with 1500KG payload and 3500KG towing at the same time (4000kg towing with a bit of jumping through hoops) and engines back then were at best asthmatic, the brakes were a bit interesting too. Full time 4x4 though. We seem to be heading backwards! OK they didn't have heated seats back then and they do smoke a bit, overall fuel economy hasn't really changed - my Defender is getting 30MPG (UK gallons, so that's 25 freedom MPG).
@jo-wb6zs
@jo-wb6zs 3 жыл бұрын
now that the 392 wrangler is confirmed... hard pass on this.
@bodyoftruth7766
@bodyoftruth7766 3 жыл бұрын
That thing is going to be very pricey.
@youtubecarspottersguide1
@youtubecarspottersguide1 3 жыл бұрын
......v8 gladiator
@x2e4
@x2e4 3 жыл бұрын
@@youtubecarspottersguide1 _Imagine_
@wodanowitz
@wodanowitz 3 жыл бұрын
@@bodyoftruth7766 please stop whining, living in Europe, we have to pay nearly the DOUBLE amount of what you pay for in the States.
@bodyoftruth7766
@bodyoftruth7766 3 жыл бұрын
@@wodanowitz It's not our fault you good people keep supporting Marxists.
@jefffalks1519
@jefffalks1519 3 жыл бұрын
Just had a rental Tacoma TRD Pro for yesterday driving from Phoenix to Colorado Springs helping my brother move and as a diehard Chevy fan I was blown away and just about converted. With the two of us, 300 lbs payload and towing a 04 Toyota Matrix packed with probably another 600 lbs Payload we averaged 13 mpg over 845 miles driving the most direct route through the thick of the mountains. The truck and I never seemed to agree what gear it should be in but it never lacked for power to get up hills at speed, we could easily pull out and pass and it is the most comfortable vehicle this USMC Infantry Vet with my torn up back and knees has ever road tripped in! Put a diesel in that and I’d have to take my bow tie off for good AND it’d still be way under $66k
@jefffalks1519
@jefffalks1519 3 жыл бұрын
Also a manual...diesel and a manual
@paulwicklund5044
@paulwicklund5044 3 жыл бұрын
My 2016 Scion IM can haul 900 pounds.
@josephwhiskeybeale
@josephwhiskeybeale 3 жыл бұрын
It has less payload than my 2010 Hyundai Santa Fe 😂
@hunterbrock2347
@hunterbrock2347 3 жыл бұрын
5:27 "only mid size truck offering a diesel" The Colorado had this going for it a couple years back with the 2.8 Duramax
@daveninjaneuro7089
@daveninjaneuro7089 3 жыл бұрын
I had this engine in my GC trailhawk edition. I miss it. Someone hit me and totaled the truck and I was never able to find another one. Maybe this is why?
@mrmgjohnson
@mrmgjohnson 2 жыл бұрын
@TFLnow Do you guys have any idea if the spare tire space under the gladiator rubicon is the same size/location on both the Gas and Diesel versions ? Picking up a diesel and the spare size/location on the gas version has been talked about, but I haven't seen anything on the diesel. Thanks !
@mikeschoolcraft21
@mikeschoolcraft21 3 жыл бұрын
My brother just ordered a Gladiator Rubicon with the diesel and the engine numbers are impressive. He will be getting it tuned after exhaust and CAI mods. Do you know what is possible to get with a good tune? I’m guessing 300 hp and 500 ft lbs is easy. That’s plenty.
@dieseldrax
@dieseldrax 3 жыл бұрын
0:12, 5:27 Andre, how could you have forgotten about the GM twins with the 2.8 Duramax that have been around since the 2016 model year?! To make up for this you guys will have to do a head-to-head comparison of the Gladiator Rubicon EcoD and the Colorado ZR2 Duramax. :)
@patrickyoung5348
@patrickyoung5348 3 жыл бұрын
I think the thin air in Co.is getting to him. 😀 And he is the numbers / specs guru at TFL.
@JackReid2056
@JackReid2056 3 жыл бұрын
Did the defrosting issue (TFL pointed out) get an update/fixed with this model?
@gs98999
@gs98999 3 жыл бұрын
Wonder how many people that constantly complain about prices in these vids are actually in the market for a midsize truck? This thing is loaded. Get a gas sport one for 40k if 66k is too much??
@jeepthing98
@jeepthing98 3 жыл бұрын
If they drop the 392 in it, THAT will be the most expensive Gladiator.
@davidrodrigurz2459
@davidrodrigurz2459 3 жыл бұрын
It would probably have more balls then this one tho to some what justify the price 😂
@joecovey2235
@joecovey2235 3 жыл бұрын
The price is nuts. Still, it's a cool truck. If I'm gonna spend that much on a Jeep it's gonna be the 392 Wrangler and pass on the truck features.
@HiPlains1
@HiPlains1 3 жыл бұрын
392 Wrangler is going to be just as expensive. Definitely will only be in the highest of trims. They only doing that since Ford took it up a few notches with the bronco launch. 392 will probably cost 70K when the dust settles. If the 2.7 bronco is reliable, Jeep will have a great need to move to a next generation Jeep much sooner then they thought. The 392 decision didn't just happen. They have been sitting on it. Bronco was the reason they announced that now. You better believe it.
@mweaver45
@mweaver45 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting, you get a smaller tank that wipes out a lot of the extra range, lower towing, added cost of the Diesel, Diesel Fuel and Urea. It likely takes 300K miles to equalize the upfront and additional incremental costs. In a commercial application, it might make sense?
@Lottahops
@Lottahops 3 жыл бұрын
Is it known if the chassis is the same reinforced chassis of the Mojave or strengthened similarly to the new Wrangler with the Hemi for the weight of the turbo diesel.
@rhettthedog7757
@rhettthedog7757 3 жыл бұрын
Already more miles than the defender!
@joelkenyon625
@joelkenyon625 3 жыл бұрын
My zr2 duramax is a midsize with a diesel. Delete and tune took me to 430tq and 229 hp...for substantially less cost. Really nice truck though. I also get 530 miles per tank.
@Floreypottery
@Floreypottery 3 жыл бұрын
66k midsize what’s Jeep smoking no wonder the gladiator is loaded down at the car lots
@richarde.6750
@richarde.6750 3 жыл бұрын
But its a Jaheeeeeep.......
@Ulfstigandr
@Ulfstigandr 3 жыл бұрын
Reveiws like this blind people to the fact that you can get a nice one for $45k, or barebones for $35k
@richarde.6750
@richarde.6750 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ulfstigandr Just think for a moment.......whenever manufacturers come out with something big, they put in the most expensive vehicle possible and to make sure the vehicle is loaded, they don't offer it in a cheap model. GM did that with the diesel engine in their mid size pickups.
@Ulfstigandr
@Ulfstigandr 3 жыл бұрын
@@richarde.6750 your not wrong, the Rubi 392 is likely going to be 80k for at least the first few years. But his initial comment was about the gladiator in general i think, refering to dealer stock like that. For the most part what a dealer will have on hand will average to about $50k, the bulk of wrangler and im sure gladiator sales tend to be up-optioned sport s models.
@richarde.6750
@richarde.6750 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ulfstigandr Most everyone was waiting for the diesel. They will pay to have the diesel and be the first on the block. Poor people will have to wait.
@J.A.GCustoms
@J.A.GCustoms 2 жыл бұрын
How did you get the headliners and spray in Bed liner? Website takes it off
@graemelliott3942
@graemelliott3942 3 жыл бұрын
The Gladiator diesel used to be my dream truck until I heard $66K
@HiPlains1
@HiPlains1 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but its because its on the Rubicon. Luckily its available on lower trims but it will still be pricey being the option itself is over 5K. I think half that cost is for all the emissions and the DEF etc that is required to clean it up. And it runs clean. Could not see any smoke when he revved it up. For me, all that elaborate emissions systems just adds to problems down the road. EPA pretty much killed diesels in the US.
@V10PDTDI
@V10PDTDI 3 жыл бұрын
At least it’s still in your dreams.
@HiPlains1
@HiPlains1 3 жыл бұрын
@@V10PDTDI I owned a Ford Ranger in the Fiji Islands for about 3 years when I lived there. Had the 3.2 5 cylinder diesel. Amazing truck. No DEF or any of that BS.
@chrissuggs8521
@chrissuggs8521 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought one gas engine. With a 6 inch lift on 40s for 42,000
@graemelliott3942
@graemelliott3942 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrissuggs8521 we need pics!
@gregferris9378
@gregferris9378 3 жыл бұрын
If the seat went back any further and you hit a bump you'd be smashing your head.
@treymetzger
@treymetzger Жыл бұрын
Did you guys never do a diesel super ike maxed out like you said you were going to do in the gas super ike video?
@Thejikarim
@Thejikarim 3 жыл бұрын
The jeep gladiator Rubicon diesel is the best 4 x 4 truck I have ever driven ever and I have driven dodge Toyota and General Motors and by far this jeep diesel gladiator put all of them to shame love it what a great truck
@jamieshields9521
@jamieshields9521 3 жыл бұрын
Final price isn’t that bad compared to Australian mid size trucks like some top specs top 70+ but conversion from US dollar to AUD is 90 which be lucky to get base dual cab Toyota Landcruiser ute.
@DeanJohnson67
@DeanJohnson67 3 жыл бұрын
still love my LE but would also love it to have been Diesel since I mostly daily driver + overland! mileage isn't horrible at 18mpg on longer trips but would love 25+ and the longer life expectancy of the Diesel woulf be nice as well since I keep my vehicles 15 years on average.
@cessealbeach
@cessealbeach 3 жыл бұрын
Is the 2021 Models going to pass the IIHS roll over crash Test? Are those hood scoops , plastic scoops any Functional or forshow?
@rcud1
@rcud1 3 жыл бұрын
I saw another video as well going over the diesel and they had to make several modifications to incorporate the diesel engine. The lower payload though is the biggest downfall, besides the cost.
@ryanolson8295
@ryanolson8295 3 жыл бұрын
Uh my zr2 bison is diesel and it was like 30% less
@gilbertarnold8666
@gilbertarnold8666 3 жыл бұрын
Great video thank you!
@BryanW916
@BryanW916 3 жыл бұрын
5:21 What about the Chevrolet Colorado with the 2.8L Duramax Diesel?
@brandonwalksto3560
@brandonwalksto3560 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder why Jeep dose not include the Trailer Brake Controller when you order the Trailer Package it has to be gotten as a motor add on at the Jeep Service Centre in the Ram Trucks its already installed from the factory Cant wait for the towing test to see if having the extra power will help over the V6 or 2.0 L Turbo 4
@heartofdixie67
@heartofdixie67 3 жыл бұрын
One Ton Ram Diesel Price for a Toy Truck !!!🤣😂🤣🤮
@mahdey
@mahdey 3 жыл бұрын
My 2014 Ram 3500 Laramie ctd 4x4 aisin, with every option except sunroof was 66,420 new. This is just crazy.
@joshuatracy4829
@joshuatracy4829 3 жыл бұрын
Dodge did same thing with the dakota with no luxury to it and no package options such as off road , my 2005 dakota Laramie is bland as hell is a 4x4 with no skid plates at all. Dodge has lost there mind
@conduit242
@conduit242 3 жыл бұрын
You’re paying extra for that legendary Fiat diesel reliability though...
@kitchentrout5867
@kitchentrout5867 3 жыл бұрын
@@conduit242 LOL
@carlosrubio7896
@carlosrubio7896 3 жыл бұрын
Is it going to be used for long term test???
@xORiONx170x
@xORiONx170x 3 жыл бұрын
What about the Colorado/Canyon Duramax? Forget about them?
@nickm6670
@nickm6670 3 жыл бұрын
So, this vs the Dmax ZR2 offroad matchup? Personally, I have wanted a jeep like this since I owned a 1st gen JKU (1st gen for lack of a better term, it had the 3.8L) but, the Colorado is much more comfortable for taller folks. Still, you can't even get a sunroof in the Colorado.
@MrJeepfanatic
@MrJeepfanatic Жыл бұрын
Will you be covering the new ecodiesel recall on the cp4.2? NHTSA Recall # 23V-263
@tacocruiser4238
@tacocruiser4238 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the emissions system get clogged up if you do alot of slow-speed rock-crawling?
@croaker4747
@croaker4747 3 жыл бұрын
66k? For an uncomfortable freaking Jeep? Lol. No damn way.
@HiPlains1
@HiPlains1 3 жыл бұрын
For a little more you can drive a new landcruiser that will last 50 years. This thing will be falling apart in 5.
@eldonjons7442
@eldonjons7442 3 жыл бұрын
I am picking up my Orange Crush ZR2 Colorado diesel this Saturday, $46k with gm incentives and some nice options.
@michelt4390
@michelt4390 3 жыл бұрын
Is it the same Fiat diesel engine that is giving issues to Ram truck owners? Did they fix the windshield defrost?
@betweenthepines4000
@betweenthepines4000 3 жыл бұрын
I just picked up my 20’ Sport S last week, over 10k off msrp and included rubicon wheels /tires/suspension. I originally wanted the exact truck I bought but a 21’ ecodiesel, factory order. Priced that out, just like the one I bought, same options and it was 16k more! Couldnt justify the 3mpg savings and pricey upkeep.
@betweenthepines4000
@betweenthepines4000 3 жыл бұрын
Btw thats in canadian currency. So about 30% than US currency. The Ecodiesel in Canada is a $9100 option.....
@pampypants871
@pampypants871 2 жыл бұрын
How do some people get 32 and others get 22 mpg, what do you have a led foot or something?
@VARITHMS
@VARITHMS 3 жыл бұрын
If I had one of these I'd try and find a nice aluminum, skirted flatbed headache rack combo.
@davidkacs6933
@davidkacs6933 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for leaf blowing the potato chips 😂!
@rockstertx
@rockstertx 3 жыл бұрын
Hey... is a GMC Canyon AT4 not a mid-size diesel??? What am I missing besides the extra $18k in price (that's loaded).. with the extra savings you could basically customize your AT4 to be very equal off-road...or better. Not to mention... it is a bit slower selling so you probably could do better negotiating on price.
@Channel-yq6qy
@Channel-yq6qy 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Bell 407 flyover
@armondobbabone8556
@armondobbabone8556 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm...the poor sales figures of the previous Gladiator will be addressed by sticking in a diesel power-plant and jacking up the price. Did they address the "Re"-froster issue you guys discovered ?
@anthonyfreed4494
@anthonyfreed4494 3 жыл бұрын
So the Chevy Colorado with a 2.8 diesel is not a midsize truck? Is a full size truck?
@paulwicklund5044
@paulwicklund5044 3 жыл бұрын
Chevy Colorado has a diesel option.
@dallannorrish1587
@dallannorrish1587 3 жыл бұрын
And it cant even tow as much as the jeep gas. How sad is that
@fomocore
@fomocore 3 жыл бұрын
Priced out of that one
@mecheng5by5
@mecheng5by5 3 жыл бұрын
I priced out a 2021 Overland w/diesel and a bunch of premium options for around $48,000. Gupton Motors was the dealership.
@anthonygendron9737
@anthonygendron9737 3 жыл бұрын
So with the technology today you can only carry 4 guys that weigh 220lbs and a bottle of water. I’m confused.
@solen1849
@solen1849 3 жыл бұрын
Correct me if im i am wrong, but when they determine payload the factor in - in cab weight. So 4 big dudes, doesn't have anything do to with the payload, payload is a safe weight in your bed.
@cdelaine
@cdelaine 3 жыл бұрын
But real question is, how does it compare to your new Defender?
@jcruz7611
@jcruz7611 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful!
@Tware8100
@Tware8100 3 жыл бұрын
Did the Colorado and Canyon drop there diesel? I thought they were considered midsized trucks.
@quintili1
@quintili1 3 жыл бұрын
Nope, you can go buy one right now. I have an 18 ZR2 diesel and it's been fantastic.
@Frignothanks
@Frignothanks 3 жыл бұрын
They are next year. I don’t know how people have forgotten about this already, unless you are buying in the next 8 months you should cross the duramax Colorado off your shopping list unless you are buying used.
@J.Young808
@J.Young808 3 жыл бұрын
So what about the GM Diesels AT4 & ZR2? I am pretty sure there is a Diesel Bison as well, I thought you were a GM guy André?
@Carl-vx9ws
@Carl-vx9ws 3 жыл бұрын
Good video; thanks! If you’re planning on getting an automatic transmission, the $2,000 price is moot and the same compared to gas vs. the Diesel engines.
@gilbertm3021
@gilbertm3021 3 жыл бұрын
Will a Gladiator High Altitude review be coming as well?
@freedom-volvo-usa
@freedom-volvo-usa 3 жыл бұрын
Are they coming out with a manual transmission ?
@BanBiofuels
@BanBiofuels 3 жыл бұрын
Nice vehicle made in the USA. Good resale value as well,
@scratchnbell
@scratchnbell 3 жыл бұрын
I want to hear Tommy's impression and comparison of it from a Jeep fans point of view.
@poorfatman5317
@poorfatman5317 3 жыл бұрын
You say nobody else is off roading midsize diesel how do you explain the Chevy bison
@mahhty4279
@mahhty4279 3 жыл бұрын
I bet it would do better pulling the same trailer and weight as the 3.6 gladiator you tested. That thing sounded like it was going to explode doing 7000
@bradlaflamme6127
@bradlaflamme6127 3 жыл бұрын
With a bigger tank it would be smart for overland, you should have 700mpt not 400.
@atvrepairsandmore2482
@atvrepairsandmore2482 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine paying more for a engine that’s less reliable
@austinreed347
@austinreed347 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@sroodtuo
@sroodtuo 3 жыл бұрын
This engine hasn’t been around long enough to determine it’s reliability. Keep in mind this is not the same motor that was in the Ram’s/Grand Cherokee’s etc. I can say, as an owner of a JTRD, that this motor is amazing so far. Yes, I’ve only put 500 miles on it to date, so i can’t speak to long term, but as of today I absolutely LOVE the torque. 8th gear uphill on about a 3% grade at 70 MPH no problem.
@atvrepairsandmore2482
@atvrepairsandmore2482 3 жыл бұрын
Nate Johnson it is the same motor and they are extremely problematic. They are Italian made diesels. They are poorly made
@zelenizub2036
@zelenizub2036 3 жыл бұрын
Not only that you get less payload and towing to.
@carlbutcher9854
@carlbutcher9854 3 жыл бұрын
@@atvrepairsandmore2482 that's not what i wanted to hear :(
@shellstud34
@shellstud34 3 жыл бұрын
Canyon, Colorado diesel Andrea? Did you forget those ;)
@thehayman7352
@thehayman7352 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone does because everyone knows it’s only Toyota and Jeep in the game
@austinreed347
@austinreed347 3 жыл бұрын
Cause those vehicles are horrible lol 😂 I mean Jeep is too but at least it’s a beast off road, and the Tacoma is actually reliable along with the Ranger albeit without a diesel option
@jasonmetz9151
@jasonmetz9151 3 жыл бұрын
GM is phasing out the diesel in those. Plus those diesels were weak and couldn't tow or haul for crap (real world).
@LeeGovender007
@LeeGovender007 2 жыл бұрын
When is TFL doing the Towing test. With the diesel motor
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