Fire Detection warning in Perry the Pilatus.

We got a fire detection, yellow caution, light in Perry The Pilatus. That will always increases your heart rate at least a little 🤪. Here’s another video on what it cost to own an operate a PC 12 by Mark Patey. 

[@samhklm]

You know what is more expensive? Mark Patey taking the time out of his busy day to make these videos - thanks Mark!

[@cyclingbutterbean]

Gives a whole new meaning to check engine light!

[@jaakkoiswatching6437]

Check wallet light.

[@michaelpetty2016]

It needs a 'CHECK BANK ACCOUNT' warning light.

[@james94582]

It has one... Any light that comes on.. Even the one indicating external power available before even powering anything on the acft on, they all indicate check bank account!! Lol

[@Parr4theCourse]

Well look forward to full Pilatus videos!!!

[@Scoots1994]

Mark is back! Need more videos :)

[@steveshoemaker6347]

IT IS GOOD TO SEE YOU ON PLANE STUFF AGAIN.....Thanks Mark..... Old Shoe🇺🇸

[@shaunroberts9361]

Even though i do not fly.. I wish..... I still like any video from the Patey's...

[@JestRR]

Thank you for the in-site into what it takes to own an aircraft of this calibur. It's just Asinine that aviation is regulated and Lawyered up beyond normal existence! I'll never be able to afford my passion of helicopters, let alone general aviation when it comes to the cost to have insurance, and make repairs of simple things like this. Yes I realize it can be life and death when it comes to flying and having good equipment, inspected by we trained people, but its beyond reasonable and frustrating for most things in aviation.

[@JustPlaneSilly]

Make More Videos!! I love this stuff!

[@greanvenom]

Sounds like the same amount as owning a BMW in Australia. Great Videos mate.

[@tomeickhorst6787]

The Pilatus Porter is one of my favorite planes

[@F1fan007]

This is very interesting. Glad you’re back on. Hope you have more videos to come soon about life owning a Pilatus.

[@louisfkoorts5590]

Thanks. Extreme costs. And it's good to see, You can still keep it up. The people who can tell us, is dwindling in number. 🌿👋🏻

[@ozziepilot2899]

Worth every penny !

[@maxon1672]

I like this type of video!

[@jamesclarkUndiagnosed]

Mark!!! Looking good my friend. Note to self: it is better to have friends who have Pilatus’ while you fly a Vans RV

[@JustPlaneSilly]

fancy meeting you here

[@jamesclarkUndiagnosed]

@@JustPlaneSilly do I know you? :)

[@ihdieselman]

I wish I could afford to have your problems. Unfortunately I am not as well motivated thank you for bringing me along though.

[@adamscholl9410]

That livery on perry is sick

[@enricodigenova8112]

That’s why a lot of people underestimate the cost of owning a plane it’s not a cheap hobby to get into 👍👍

[@JohnVHLife]

We need more aviation content since Mike isnt doing any.

[@gtr1952]

That is why I can't own a Pilatus!! Oh, and, did I see a 5 blade prop on Perry?? I thought, when you did the video about the overhaul, you said you were going to overhaul the 4 blade prop also and not spend the $$ on a 5 blade?? I remember thinking to myself, core value of the 4 blade, $$ to overhaul, why not just go w/a new 5 blade? Not my $$ though. LOL Thanks Mark!! --gary

[@ke6gwf]

As you were talking, I thought about how much I would expect an industrial device like that to cost ($1k), and then added the "Aviation Tax" to it ($3k),and then added the safety testing and certification and liability insurance costs, and came up with $5k prior to you saying it! Lol It makes sense it's that expensive, that's actually a pretty complex and precision part, for being so simple seeming.

[@paulbade3566]

Even $1K is outrageous. It's a capillary tube with a single pole double throw switch on it - not much more complex than a capillary tube thermostat or temperature limit switch on a home gas appliance. This is a $100 part with regulatory expenses and fees and insurance premium of several thousand dollars, plus markups.

[@ke6gwf]

​@@paulbade3566​@paulbade3566 it's not the complexity that sets it apart from the oven thermostat, it's the precision. The oven thermostat can be made from stamped steel parts and mass produced commodities, with very little qc or inspection. The aircraft rated part is going to use high precision tubing, precision machined parts and cases (and when I say precision machined, I mean actually very close tolerance specs made on very expensive machines with constant measurements to ensure that it's proper at every step of the way. The materials are all going to have full documentation of the source and batch, testing data from lab tests on the individual batch, and qc paperwork when it is delivered. The design will have been sent to testing laboratories where the prototypes are stress tested to failure in many methods, and put through long cycle tests and vibration tests, and then finally certified for the aircraft. And then everyone has to add the insurance costs because now they are taking liability at every step in the process as they certify it as air worthy. So while the concept is the same as an oven thermostat, basically nothing about the materials used, the construction or number of people involved etc is comparable, which is why the price is so much higher, not even including the Aircraft Markup. Lol

[@legend7ify]

..................G'day, long time no see. Cheers and kind regards, Malcolm.

[@III_Nick_III]

Aircraft mechanic at a large airline here... Frankly this seems fairly cheap compared to some of the prices I see on a regular basis. The standouts are mandatory decals that go for $300 each.

[@thewrenchreviews9986]

Just can't catch a break can you? Glad it was a more benign problem. Fly safe sir.

[@redjet505]

It is really very bad that we getting it as this is how it is and we just need to pay it instead of fighting those high prices that sometime will cause people to die when they don't have the money for those replacement and they still want to keep flying

[@svenn-chr.svendsen6545]

Love if you made a video of what is the cost of owning, cost pr flight hours and so on 🙂

[@inventsc]

Gosh shocking price. Thanks mark for explaining to us . Aviation parts are is such a rip off. If course lives depend on them . As an engineer myself in a very large design and manufacturing company we know this could be made for around $20. But I guess getting people to check it x ray it etc cost extra . But gosh not that much ! I wonder If china starts making aviation parts seriously , a lot of these old aviation companies will Get disrupted ??

[@barnesandrewj]

Like Perry's new paint scheme Mark! Did you do the inside too?!

[@PghGameFix]

Love the name reference.

[@rgt4848]

If you want to see crazy costs, check out what it costs to change the (pressurization) butterfly valve on a PC12NG.

[@W7LDT]

Oh, the joys of aircraft ownership.

[@ferrarikingdom]

Cool name , Perry the pilatupus

[@MikeKobb]

Curious to know what the checklist or QRH says about that yellow caution light. Are you supposed to continue but get it fixed at your destination?

[@fredbugden6935]

I worked in the fire protection industry for 30 + years. Same tech just 5 times the cost because it’s being used in an aircraft I presume. Somebody is making a good buck.

[@ocscmike]

Best 5k you ever spent to clear up the panel :D

[@golfbravowhiskey8669]

Looks like Perry got a new paint job since the last video.

[@Erik-rp1hi]

Keep selling those Tugs and you will be OK.

[@tysleight]

Toys are expensive. Even more when it's not a tax write off with others money. I once worked for a guy that showed me the business math on his houseboat and how he made money using his own boat to go to L.P. for a week.

[@BAD_CONSUMER]

its probably not expensive to make, but usually these things cost so much because of all the testing involved and certifications they carry

[@RealRickCox]

Only $5k!!? I thought for sure that would be a $20k part. Seems like a “regular” bolt goes from $1 to $500 the minute someone slaps an “aviation” label on it.

[@andyhermelee5429]

crazy!!

[@snowgorilla9789]

My wife would have shut the engine off, then turned the key back on to see what the caution/idiot light was about. Ask me how I know. When I said turn the key back on I did not mean restart

[@timmummert63]

Yikes! My guess was $2500. That is why I don’t have an airplane. 😊

[@gabrielgarcia4975]

Thats like a weeks pay in my world😅

[@jmcguire5151]

Liability costs big money

[@Joe_Not_A_Fed]

I notice you now have the 5 blade prop on Perry. What prompted the change from the 4 blade?

[@phatboizbackyardkustomz9006]

More HP... More prop

[@renof2505]

Because 6 is too many and 4 isn't enough - Audi

[@ryanthomas2472]

I guessed 6 grand, so hearing 5 was like it was on sale!

[@DrRusty5]

It will be 6 Grand by the time it is installed !

[@flyingmachineworks]

its like with boats and planes they add extra zeros to the price.

[@glencrandall7051]

If a boat is a hole in the water into which you pour money, then an airplane must be a hole in the sky . . . . . . . . 🙂🙂

[@monostripeexplosiveexplora2374]

Kidde.. right?

[@DanFrederiksen]

Shouldn't that be possible to detect in other more robust and cheaper ways... wouldn't a resistive wire do the same if it has to be touch based... or a couple of cheap IR sensors. If you have 4 or 6 sensors around the engine bay the redundancy should allow for some data integrity and awareness at near zero cost.

[@III_Nick_III]

There are different methods for fire detection, but firewire of various forms are by far the most common and effective. (this is a fairly rare one, most are essentially a conductive salt and two conductors that runs through the wire)

[@DanFrederiksen]

@ck_III seems primitive and mechanical to me. especially at 5grand. We are roughly talking about a temperatur sensor wire. And one that can readily fail apparently. I would think a few cheap small matrix thermal 'cameras' by the firewall would be better. A typical cheap motion detector 2 pixel thermal camera (7-14micron) is 50cent in bulk. With a little plastic lens it can be loosely annularly focused around the engine. Couple of sensors per board, maybe 2-4 units placed around the engine bay. Could be 5$ units. Then you can even show roughly where the heat anomaly is. Hopefully last the life of the plane but easily replaceable if not. A 5000$ crude engine bay temperature sensor, that should not be a thing. Bad pilatus.

[@III_Nick_III]

Primitive and mechanical, welcome to aeroplanes. If you want to use that method on the next aeroplane you build, be my guest, but you'll have to prove to the FAA it's safe, reliable and effective. (which will cost a LOT of money)@@DanFrederiksen

[@DanFrederiksen]

@@III_Nick_III don't be a status quo sheep. it's undignified

[@MrMrsedz]

Better 5K to turn a warning light off than a potential total loss of aircraft and crew .....

[@doradosurfcharters]

Probably cost more than the first aircraft ever built ..we like to make life complicated

[@ryanthomas2472]

Yeah, but that aircraft only went a hundred feet or so. And not at 250 knots.

[@vitordelima]

Detecting fires isn't supposed to cost that much either.

[@airloo]

what what what... you bought new airplane is expensive cost is $10 million... how can you afford????

[@JohnShurr]

JB weld woulda fixed it.

[@maxlarock8788]

I’m not even part of aviation but why is that so expensive damn

[@paulbade3566]

It's the costs of regulatory compliance, plus insurance premiums, plus the salaries of the manufacturer's legal department. Compare the price of an automotive cylinder head bolt - about $10. A similar bolt for an aircraft engine is about $120 for the reasons listed above. Some of that is reasonable - the bolt undergoes extensive NDT to verify it is flawless. But keeping track of the mines from which the constituent metals came from may be a bit excessive.