One thought: With an RV, you also need to be aware of the potential for a BLEVE. In the vast majority of cases, RVs are going to have a cylinder of LPG for the onboard stove, heater, hot water tank, etc. You mentioned this obliquely when you were discussing the car fire, but it's definitely worth emphasizing. A 100 lb. LPG tank is a potential bomb.
@mike_pertz3 жыл бұрын
That is an excellent point!
@LTBROYT6A2 жыл бұрын
Even a 20 pound LPG tank in a fire can take out a house or two !!!
@islandblind2 жыл бұрын
@@LTBROYT6A You've got that right!
@straytrons34502 жыл бұрын
A couple years ago I was 1st on scene of an RV fire in an RV sales location. Before the 1st engine arrived we had one 40 gallon LPG tank blow off to empty the tank from the overpressure valve and a second 40 gallon LP tank BLEVE after the OP valve failed closed during the vent. My biggest priority was getting the initial extinguishers brought out by employees discharged into the fire, unfortunately with little effect, and keeping the civilians clear of the hazard area. Beware, LPG tanks can be in any location on an RV. In my fire, the tanks were in the lower front of the RV and situated so that the overpressure vents shot out the sides of the RV. The BLEVE launched the tank 40 feet to the side of the RV.
@maudwagner72112 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking. A more defensive firefighting technique from distance should be used instead of standing next to it, taking their helmet off to get under air. A little blind I must say...
@briananderson87332 жыл бұрын
I am not a firefighter but I watch a lot of these youtube fire scenes. I don't always understand what is going on. This type of narration is really helpful in learning how firefighting happens. Thanks so much.
@markmeaker71253 жыл бұрын
As a retired fire chief with 48 years on the job (22 as gire chief), I pretty much agree with every point you made! Good job analyzing a pretty well-handled fire!
@capenjck2 жыл бұрын
I don't think the firefighter taking the nozzle was disrespectful at all. The firefighter on the nozzle initially, wasn't prepared. As you said, it isn't uncommon for someone to pull a line while others are masking up then relinquishing the line when they are ready so that the other person can mask up. What I did find interesting from a Safety Officers view was the guy pulling hose with no gloves on. Hose jackets can easily pick up sharp debris while being pulled along the ground at a fire scene. The RV windows we broken out potentially putting glass all over the ground. Dragging a hose through that could pick up glass on the hose jacket.
@562FIREPHOTO3 жыл бұрын
BigThank you for you showing my brothers Content !! He does great work and thank you for educating others and thank you for your service sir.
@vernonbosshard9317 Жыл бұрын
Those lower lines aren't power, that's communication, cable, telephone. The lines up top are power.
@nickmyers93003 жыл бұрын
I'm currently studying and training for EMT/FIREFIGHTER.. And your channel reassurance me of my choice to career path and also makes me think.. and I thank you very much for that🙏🚒
@MrSamson43 жыл бұрын
Another clear and concise firefighter breakdown video by you. As a new firefighter, I find your breakdown videos extremely helpful. Keep up great work. Please produce more breakdown videos ! Thank you
@ezracleveland20133 жыл бұрын
Best breakdown I've seen that covers what needs to be done
@toddgay51613 ай бұрын
I'm a 60-year-old retired firefighter from Michigan I'm going to forward this link to my son if you do a really interesting job on pointing things out and educating people I'll subscribe you've taught me a lot of things at 60 years old 30 years on the job
@FB1ResponseVideos3 жыл бұрын
outstanding explanations! thank you again! 🔥
@aportman583 жыл бұрын
The exchange at the beginning of the fire was all well intended and coordinated...that's how you manage manpower when limited early-on prior to other resources arriving! Very well coordinated to get multiple functions in play!
@SD45-ET44AC2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed my time in the fire service, 40 years ago, and as volunteers arrived you would just get on the next truck based on your certifications. I had good luck either to be the last one to get on the first due Engine (there was nothing like riding the tailboard while the driver is doing the speed limit of 60 mph and it was already 5° below zero) or more than likely I would get to be the apparatus operator on our 2nd due Quint. I always enjoyed the math, figuring the angles for best truck placement and keeping each line’s pressures right on the dot with 1 1/2” & 1 3/4” lines & 3” hose that you attached to the ladder bed with individual ladder straps.
@Blazefork2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your demeanor and humility, it's missing in the fire service and in the comments on many of these videos, people don't learn by being demeaned.
@littlehuey56793 жыл бұрын
As a retired ff officer my biggest gripe is the time span of flowing water at most fires , the pump operator get to involved in supply water then using the tank water, then getting supply water !
@fridaynightgamefilm2 жыл бұрын
Car fires and RV fires can be suppressed faster with Ultra High Pressure firefighting systems. They are basically modified pressure washers that produce a water fog or mist. They are similar to fog spikes. A high pressure fog wets and cools surfaces quickly. Using a standard hose and nozzle, water only travels in straight lines, and surfaces that the firefighter is not directly facing, or doesn't have access to stay hot and continue to burn. I'd love to see you cover these newer equipment and tactical options. At a minimum it seems like firefighters should adjust their nozzle to create more of a mist/spray than just a direct stream once they are able to get close enough for this to be effective.
@Happygolucky1593 жыл бұрын
Please please, do a video of why you went from fireman to lawyer. I would love to hear about your law school experience.
@FUKKelowna26 күн бұрын
where did this come from?
@kenmeinken81153 жыл бұрын
It's been many years since I was a volunteer firefighter, but I would not have parked the engine that close. An RV typically will have a couple of 30# propane tanks plus maybe 60 to 100 gallon of gas or diesel. Likewise I would have started the initial attack a bit further back with the hoseline until the fire was knocked down a bit. I assume everyone has seen the video of the car fire that ruptured the gas tank and surrounded the two firefighters with flaming gasoline.
@nebraskaninkansas3473 жыл бұрын
The lower lines will usually be either coax cable or phone lines. They will usually be black and the coax is thicker. Not dangerous but can be annoying. I know our power lines on the city where I live will usually run at 7000 to 14000 volts. Definitely don't want to mess with that.
@diviningrod26712 жыл бұрын
Correct on phone communication cables , it looks like high voltage distribution ( very top)
@luke-san77332 жыл бұрын
I love how its just an RV fire and these four guys breaking into the compound in various ways, I know it's necessary but its also funny
@blackhawks61843 жыл бұрын
Thanks from Toronto!
@piushorning4869 Жыл бұрын
it is so good to hear some one mention how that firefighter was doing a fast step pulling hose. so many department's on You tube are doing the stroll while doing their duties. My crew moved like they were fighting fire at their own home, they busted their butts on scene
@timothyreed84174 ай бұрын
It’s part of the training protocol.
@wombat36353 жыл бұрын
Let’s say there was only fire in the engine compartment when arriving on scene. Would it make sense to search since it is a mobile home? Obviously it’s too well off in this situation but just fyi
@mike_pertz3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it certainly wouldn't' hurt to open the back door or take a window just to be sure there is no victim inside. Great point!
@diviningrod26712 жыл бұрын
I've seen LAFD pull up on car fire, engine bay fully engulfed , passenger area full smoke . Before the rig was fully stop a ff had exited checked drive area, rear driverside , front passenger, rear passenger side took all of 8 seconds. Incredible, gave the all clear and 2 ff moved in with a hose . Other Incredible LAFD things I've witnessed was them refilling choppers in a city park( porter ranch area ) for a brush fire at night. The pilots coming in to land were Incredible , quick hose fed refill, and the sound of the blade cutting into the air to lift all that water was unbelievable.
@driver9022 жыл бұрын
Man,that RV just didn't want to quit !
@ChrisLafferty2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are fascinating and I appreciate your knowledge. There was a comment early in the video I wanted to touch upon. It may seem strange that RV's will randomly be parked on city streets, but it's actually VERY common for that in LA, especially in commercial areas. Special shoutout to the LAFD from a grateful resident.
@tableplant29403 жыл бұрын
yo firefighting my dream job
@firechefsyd3 жыл бұрын
I love these breakdowns! Thank you!
@mike_pertz3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@culbyj36653 жыл бұрын
You shouldve pointed out the fact that the original tip FF had a foot on the line while it was being charged to prevent it from stretching out or getting away. This Video to me looked as if that was a specific task they stretched and had control and it sounded as if she or he was like here u have water take it or something along those lines. There was def something said. and Thats great team work...
@engine2truck63 жыл бұрын
I do not think you are correct, except about the teamwork: one team member dropped the ball and the other team member with the K 1200 picked up the ball and made the play. There is NO WAY the nozzlaman’s job is to pull a line then hand it off to the forcible entry team, and then ask for it back again.
@shadddey53 жыл бұрын
Oh
@timothyreed84174 ай бұрын
@@engine2truck6 The nozzle man is the rookie member. Every fire is a training.
@davep153 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the comment about kicking the helmet a bit further so another firefighter would get hose before 1st guy. Competition is good 👍
@captaincodebook32003 жыл бұрын
There are three layers to telephone poles The lower ones on fire here are cable/phone and low voltage. And WTF ... why no SCBA on attack? If there is a propane tank or aerosol cans this will kill or maim someone. There are several vids showing a sideways tank in an RV venting a flamethrower across a residential street. If you are within 30' of an RV or structure fire and not masked the safety officer needs to slap you.
@rodneybarnett35182 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video full of knowledge. Truly appreciated. It would be curious however to track these people through their careers and learn of how many come down with cancer. Even being involved in a small town VFD, it is stressed upon us how bad smoke inhalation can be for you years down the road because of the carcinogens that it contains, particularly car and dumpster fires. I thought it a little ironic that all of these firefighters had tanks on their backs but no mask up. And they seem to have no problem working in the smoke, which is a flag to me that they do that on a regular basis. No arm chair quarterbacking here, just a reminder that once you get cancer that could have been prevented, it will most probably end your firefighting career and it will most definitely change your life forever, if not end it.
@20truck2 жыл бұрын
If you listen real carefully you can hear the first firefighter ask the guy with the K12 to take the hose while she put her mask on
@ptaylor49232 жыл бұрын
These guys near downtown, skid row and the industrial areas get hammered in this town. Between medical calls in downtown and skid row and fires all over they can get over 50 calls per shift.
@danb2122 Жыл бұрын
The power lines are the lines way atop. Those lines burning are communication, cable lines.
@kai69503 жыл бұрын
I love this & these kinds of videos!
@JDs_RandomHandle2 жыл бұрын
Fire brigade member at a power plant, if you are around downed powerline take small steps, almost like a shuffle. The larger steps means more potential difference between your legs and you will get bite with it.
@robertgildea284110 ай бұрын
I am watching from Elmira NY all I see on fire is the RV it doesn't look like the warehouse is on fire
@jays106 Жыл бұрын
the lines that are burning are cable and phone power lines run higher up the pole, in my area primary and secondary power are the top 2 lines and below that are communication (ie phone and cable)
@mikemissel77853 жыл бұрын
As you see in the video there are other RV’s and the homeless park them everywhere. Also the dispatcher is a firefighter assigned to what we call Metro in the City of Los Angeles. Here in California high power lines run on the top of the poles and cable and telephone or low. This is South Central LA and I am Firefighter for LAFD this is a problem now in the city we have homeless living in RV’s or next to buildings and next thing you know we have a full blown structure going. This is a official police tow yard and a claim will be made to the city for damages to their businesses.
@nannerz19942 жыл бұрын
I moved to LA from Chicago and see wayyy more vehicle fires here and structure fires in general and yup they pulled up and it was LAFD; best in the country. They're on it.
@LTBROYT6A2 жыл бұрын
When the firefighter hustled by with a second line I had to rewind the video to see if he was running or walking fast, because you should NEVER RUN ON A FIREGROUND !!! When you run, both of your feet are in the air at the same time for most of the time you are running, with only one foot at a time touching the ground for a fraction of a second while you are running leaving you without any stability which has led to many serious Firefighter injuries !!! Therefore when you walk fast like that Firefighter did you always have one foot on the ground, and both feet on the ground prior to the next step assuring your stability. I am a retired Baltimore City Fire Department Captain with almost 39 years service including 5 years as a full time Staff Instructor at the Baltimore City Fire Academy where one of first things we taught new Recruits was Never Run On the Fireground I have a total of 50 years of Fire service as a volunteer, prior to BCFD and after retirement.
@bertblue96832 жыл бұрын
Never learned humility in all those decades....... Thanks Chief
@bobdavis4302 жыл бұрын
As 25 year firefighter engineer I thought everyone did a great job the only I would love to seen more attention paid to the overhead lines I understand that only phone and cable were burning but with that much heat it could have been a bad scenario but great job overall
@ofcv1238 Жыл бұрын
Clarification should be made: power lines are ~top 5 feet or so. Lower stuff phone & cable. Upper stuff 15-30,000 volts. That will saw you in half with plasma if it drops on you.
@Maizefire2 жыл бұрын
I know this is an older video but I'm monitor the lafd dispatch and tac channels from time to time they got some really good dispatchers there
@LK-pc4sq2 жыл бұрын
The lower lines are phone and cable. Primary voltage lines are lines at the top of the pole. secondary power lines are below primary
@douglasg14b2 жыл бұрын
That 2nd from the bottom black line is a fiber line, you can tell from the horseshoe crab spools further away. That's gonna be a pain to fix up. The bottom one is likely coaxial || telephone.
@Xepent Жыл бұрын
Quick note, the lines on fire are copper or fiber lines , the power lines are higher up
@watchthe13692 жыл бұрын
Hey engine 66 again, somewhere near LAX bracketed by the 405 and 110 freeways.
@Yora212 жыл бұрын
Did they connect the truck to the hydrant and then unspooled the supply hose as they moved it up to the fire?
@spaghetti98452 жыл бұрын
I don't see a problem though. This looks pretty normal. It'll buff out after a few days in the shop
@spaghetti98452 жыл бұрын
I quite enjoy vehicle fires. Get to fight fire and not have to do all the bs of overhaul. Something rarely mentioned is that hydraulic pistons can become dangerous projectiles. I was taught to always approach from a angle and never straight from the front or back.
@b_uppy2 жыл бұрын
They're worried about disrespect when they should be worried about the fire. *Groan*...
@danbailey8182 Жыл бұрын
What impresses me is their ability to speak clearly into the radios and not sound like they are working at McDonald’s drive through.
@Knight_Jos2 жыл бұрын
Man, that fire never knew what hit it XD
@paser113853 жыл бұрын
he grabbed that nozzle out of frustration, he gave the line back and shook his head like "are you serious!!!
@FFPM3712 жыл бұрын
First on the nozzle gets to have the fun!
@jacobkeppler19848 ай бұрын
Nice work by lafd keep it up there
@Tacos888 Жыл бұрын
LOL people got mad at the guy for taking the hose from the lady CUS SHE WASNT READY BRO YOU GOTTA GET WITH IT XD
@jackh5773 жыл бұрын
10:24 Lots of rungs above the roof line, I like that, makes it much easier and safer to get on and off the roof. Too often I see just a few rungs.
@mike_pertz3 жыл бұрын
Excellent point. Way too many people miss that
@jackh5773 жыл бұрын
@@mike_pertz Love your channel brother. Thanks for the reply.
@bertblue96832 жыл бұрын
Yeah, ifsta requires 3-5 rungs and I always chuckled at newbies counting rungs. Extend that damn thing and be done. Of course you don't extend 35' on a single story but I always wanted it 6 feet or more above. Gives a visual from further distance where your exit is and like you mentioned, it's just much easier to get on and off.
@jackh5772 жыл бұрын
@@bertblue9683 good points.
@lizardfirefighter110 Жыл бұрын
Knock it down from a position of safety. Move in incrementally closer as the fire is reduced. Would be good to start out with foam. Think water supply. Change up impingement angle of fire steam.
@adampottmeyer4522 жыл бұрын
LAFD ladders are just cool. I'm sure there are a million reasons that aluminium ladders are better, but it's something I really like when I see LAFD working.
@timothyreed84174 ай бұрын
Like they conduct electricity very well.
@234312 жыл бұрын
I always sat on the nozzle if I had to mask up lol
@dracoslayer162 жыл бұрын
Great video but I'm a little puzzled by the forced entry to the business. I get they need to check for hazards or problems on the other side of the wall but after breaking in to the yard they found there to be nothing there. They already had a ladder setup to get on the roof, would it not have been better to simply look into the yard instead of destroy some random business?
@nocare2 жыл бұрын
Radiant heat can start fires far away from the source and the fire can start in places that are not visible. For instance a metal roof will transmit the heat to the insulation underneath and start a fire in attics of neighboring buildings without showing any outward signs at first. Also burning debris can get into places that are hard to observe from a distance and start fires that way too. This is a big concern in drought areas like California where there tends to be lots of dry dead brush to help spread fires. It's better to destroy some doors and make sure there is no fire than risk losing the entire property to avoid a relatively cheap door replacement that insurance will pay for anyways.
@donhagen21943 жыл бұрын
Good job guys you're doing a fine job out there take care and have a Happy Thanksgiving bye
@cheongyei3 жыл бұрын
Great channel. Smart analysis.
@captserenity81542 жыл бұрын
The lines on fire are communication lines. Power is the top three.
@zephyer-gp1ju2 жыл бұрын
I've watched a dozen or two videos from different departments now. I have not seen one use Compressed Air Foam. Why don't more departments use it. Seems like it would have been great on this RV.
@donalddodson73653 жыл бұрын
Helpful insights.
@TheConjurersTower2 жыл бұрын
Everything's barred in LA, I hear it's a pretty rough town...
@lamarwhitely60983 жыл бұрын
What u think about volunteer firefighter become career firefighter
@ohjumpa Жыл бұрын
Just a question: Why won't they use foam?
@hughwoatmeigh69999 ай бұрын
My RV (small class C) has a 20 gallon (not lb) mounted tank. At a full 80% fill, that's 75 lbs of propane. Luckily, and something I don't often see, the pressure relief vent has a tailpipe to direct the vent downwards. It's better to have the vented gas, or blowtorch, go down onto the ground than to just fill up any void spaces in the engine compartment or storage under the RV. Point is, RVs are dangerous.
@ncc74656m2 жыл бұрын
While it would certainly have been far too late by the point that fire was at upon arrival, it should also be considered that someone could be inside. The fact is that we are seeing more and more people making RVs their homes, especially in poor/industrial areas. We have that in New York.
@ThethomasJefferson2 жыл бұрын
This is California, people live in the on the side of the road. I lived in San Diego years ago and that was the normal thing to see was an RV on the side of the road.
@95CobraSnake2 жыл бұрын
Nice job guys 👍!
@DomChrisOwens3 жыл бұрын
So curious how this videographer got as close as he did. I've noticed LAFD seems to not necessarily interfere with persons such as this as much as departments in other areas or countries. Very impressive footage, yet hope the videographer is at least a pro and was taking some safety precautions.
@TN_fire_photographer3 жыл бұрын
FB1 the original videographer is well known with LAFD and LACoFD. They know to stay out of the way.
@everettbailey15002 жыл бұрын
The big cable right above the fire is a telephone cable.
@kadinzaofelune Жыл бұрын
We are two years on now from this video, and unfortunately the problem of these RV's has become worse in Los Angeles with the end of the pandemic and soaring in housing prices I am afraid it will continue.
@AndrewRogacki4 ай бұрын
In this particular part of the video, I see a firefighter masking up; behind him is a K-12., another firefighter is hitting the front of the RV with his handline. My big concern that you did not mention is what appears to be a downed power line on the ground, running entirely across the road. At this time I wound expect someone to deal with this immediately in order to eliminate the hazard and make certain the area is a safe work zone for all firefighters. Are you seeing the same thing ?
@privacyvalued41342 жыл бұрын
11:34 This fire was outside Al's Towing at 1919 W Gage Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90047.
@adamhenderly16022 жыл бұрын
Los Angeles California is where that is.
@jerryhutchens01 Жыл бұрын
How is the one filming so close? I tried to film my neighbor's house and the fire department showed up and told me to stop filming. And they were more into me stopping filming than fighting the fire.
@andygibson2892 жыл бұрын
I would normally be bottle ready and gloved. By the time we made scene. I would normally be able to be first in. I also passed the nozzle to a younger firefighter. That way the got experience and I didn't mind backing them up. They often had bells long before me. I guess adrenaline and stress levels.
@timothyreed84174 ай бұрын
They practice the “Clean Cab Concept”. Keep the carcinogens out of the crew cab…air bottles are stored outside the cab…
@hmcredfed18362 жыл бұрын
Lol Figher fighters just shredd the hole building to get a look behind the fence YOU GUYS NEEDS DRONES
@rbspider Жыл бұрын
They always seem to have trouble cutting doors and gates.
@4nciite2 жыл бұрын
It's actually a good thing that they broke into the business as there might have been something going on there related to the fire, like a crime scene in the building and the fire is a distraction or a quick way to destroy evidence or there might be something else that's not related to the fire but very dangerous like a gas leak and since the fire affected the business by burning the fencing it makes sense to error on the side of caution, plus I'm sure the business has insurance for stuff like this. I have heard of someone shooting people in a business and setting a fire close to the business and nobody thought to check the business especially since there was a fire close by, people just naturally assumed that the business would be closed so it wasn't odd that nobody was around, which I'm sure was the motive for the fire.
@georgecoons6872 Жыл бұрын
compessed air foam clean tank. DDL. foam whoooooof works good. good TKO. dawn liquid soap. cheap way to fight fire,
@georgecoons6872 Жыл бұрын
you have to test it for yourself. were sold.
@georgecoons6872 Жыл бұрын
they been doing this since 1648.
@stevezhang51153 жыл бұрын
Very helpful,thank you
@timcat10043 жыл бұрын
Those are not power lines. That is phone and coax. Harmless wires. You can see primary in the top right corner, much higher up.
@zaax2 жыл бұрын
what about the propane gas bottle in the back?
@dominokidsoccerbrawlstars2 жыл бұрын
nice video!
@Bobbyd00523 жыл бұрын
GREAT JOB,BREAKING THIS DOWN ! AS I GREW UP ,I FOUND OUT THE HARD WAY ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL, THAT WAS NOT SAFE ON THE PANEL ! THEY TRUELY ARE THE MOST CLEAN PERSON ON THE SCEAN,BUT MOST IMPORTANT ! KEEP THEM COMING BROTHER !
@bradlund37523 жыл бұрын
I love how fast Ladd got water on the rv fire ,fdny would have taken twice as long to get the fire out . Ladd to me has to be the best
@jelracer983 жыл бұрын
It looks like there is something on fire behind the fence
@haroldmoran7222 Жыл бұрын
We were trained to move with purpose but not necessarily to run.
@ralts64642 жыл бұрын
That could be gas fire since darker red. Maybe magnesium fire
@brucewalker75573 жыл бұрын
Why didn't they use a fog instead of a straight stream
@brandonthedestroyer76493 жыл бұрын
From my limited knowledge, I think they used the stream to drown the base of the fire. Much like you would with a fire extinguisher. Using the fog, with as aggressive and hot that fire was burning it would run the risk of evaporating before being useful. Heat rises, so would the steam from the evaporation. I maybe wrong. Again I am unfortunately not very knowledgeable, so hopefully there will be a much smarter person who is able to answer this for you.
@azadehzarakhani45713 жыл бұрын
@@brandonthedestroyer7649 that's all correct, and a strong jet will also have a ballistic effect to really penetrated a burning material (think of soft fabrics or mulch, something like that) which also aids the attack. Fog does have a utility, however, especially in clearing smoke and hot air out of an enclosed space or if it is blowing onto you
@josephluera18473 жыл бұрын
Quicker water on fire knock it out
@20truck2 жыл бұрын
How come they're sawing through that fence if I was the owner of that property I'd be pretty angry about that, the fence seems to be pretty warm from the fire but couldn't they have just took a ladder and looked over the fence to make sure nothing was on fire instead of cutting the gate
@CCEdits1233 Жыл бұрын
You put that nozzle down you're not getting it back, because that nozzle is the most sacred thing on the truck.