Firefly 1x14 REACTION

[@GoodOldGamer]

"Well... here I am..." - Every Browncoat at the end, lol.

[@Kayjee17]

Just twirling through space, waiting for enough time to pass to do a rewatch without seeming like we're obsessed... and sneaking in the occasional newbie reactor for a pick-me-up, lol.

[@ernesthakey3396]

My favorite point in your reaction: Mal made a face, you made a face, and River says "Don't makes faces!" Gotcha!

[@sean---the-other-one]

A few things to note: In the beginning of the story, before she wanders the ship, River hears voices of the crew in her head but then also hears Jubal. She then wanders the ship trying to find the source of the voice. She gets hold of a gun as at some level she knows the source of the unknown voice needs to be taken out. Mal tells her “No touching guns!” and she responds “No guns”. So, she has to find a way to solve the situation without gunplay, and devises the plan to lure Jubal out of the ship. Finally, since she first arrives on the ship as a stowaway (not her fault), she asks Mal “Permission to come aboard.”, seeking his proper approval to be onboard Serenity and part of the crew. He allows her in, in spite of her volatility, as he’s realised she’s an asset to the crew.

[@Sagitarria]

River always is at a meta level but always is saying the truth of the matter, Early is the opposite all physicality and context and the final scene is him being stripped of all context for ever,

[@ernesthakey3396]

@@Sagitarria really? Does that seem right to you?

[@platinumspider7859]

@@Sagitarria He would have been back, if they weren't cancelled.

[@Sagitarria]

@@platinumspider7859 maybe. i could see it. there are so many story lines that just didn't get a chance and their wasn't time in the move to fully explore them so they just got nipped in the bud

[@randalthor741]

Jubal Early is one of the most unsettling villains in TV history IMO.

[@Kayjee17]

I have to agree. His ability to sound rational one moment and then coldly say terrifying things the next is unmatched on broadcast TV, for me, at least. Then they throw in that little flare of insanity, like with that lion comment... creepy.

[@KennethBenson-hx3ek]

Such a great villain in this episode, amazing performance

[@paulcurlin2789]

My favorite episode ♥ Love Jubal Early and his dark demented personality and great dialogue!

[@Nicolas.Vincent]

"Does that seem right to you?"

[@becca1189]

Please don't apologize for your accent!!! It's lovely. Don't let the ignorance of others make you change anything about yourself. ❤🧡💛💚💙💜

[@mikekay3313]

Welcome to the fellowship of Browncoats. Membership dues: 10 Hours and 57 Minutes of bliss all for a lifetime of withdrawl.

[@ernesthakey3396]

With occasional binge rewatching...

[@mikekay3313]

@ernesthakey3396 Haha nice. Relapse

[@ernesthakey3396]

@mikekay3313 yep. AND we be getting a secondhand buzz watching new victims...er, reactors...watching the show. Browncoats forever!

[@Nicolas.Vincent]

A True Browncoat would also acknowledge the Comic Stories and Firefly Novels 🤓

[@ernesthakey3396]

@@Nicolas.Vincent naw, those are officer materials. Some of us are just grunts, but still Browncoats.

[@chickflikguru]

And now you get to rewatch from the beginning again. ❤

[@platinumspider7859]

Movie first.

[@UTU49]

I love watching reactions to Firefly. And the movie is good. To me it feels like a good season finale for the series. It has the approximate length and narrative impact of a good 3-episode finale arc. There are only a few properties that inspire reaction videos as good as Firefly. Here are some of the other properties that I love watching reactions to. Buffy Avatar the Last Airbender Star Wars OT Forrest Gump Shawshank Redemption Terminator and T2 The Sixth Sense The Last of Us Part 1 (gameplay)

[@platinumspider7859]

@@UTU49 The Thing is up there.

[@ernesthakey3396]

Jubal Early was a real historical person, a Confederate General in the US Civil War - and supposedly an ancestor of Nathan Fillion. He was a bit deaf in one ear, and they used that in this portrayal, that's why he misheard a couple things that Simon said. He was also, based on his writings after the Civil War, a white supremacist, which makes their casting choice nicely ironic. The actor portrays him brilliantly in my opinion. At the end, Jubal was pretty calm - the consensus is that he probably had a beacon to bring his ship to him on autopilot. He probably would have been a recurring character. I loved that Mal, used to giving orders and expecting them to trust him to have a plan, accepted that River had a plan, trusted her, and acted immediately when she gave him the order to go.

[@sirmoonslosthismind]

"i loved that mal, used to giving orders and expecting them to trust him to have a plan, accepted that river had a plan, trusted her, and acted immediately when she gave him the order to go" that's any good military leader. the chain of command goes both ways. you don't just give orders easily; you have to take them just as readily.

[@kirkdarling4120]

@@sirmoonslosthismind The chain of command only goes one way, but a smart commander knows to pay attention to a subordinate who has the greater cognizance of the situation.

[@doug3691]

River, as the only one that evaded capture, earned the right to give orders, in my opinion. But I like the point you make, and it's cool that Mal was ready to (play along -- as it's all a dream, in a way) follow her orders.

[@sirmoonslosthismind]

@@kirkdarling4120 i didn't mean to imply that mal would take orders from a subordinate, only that he _was_ a subordinate himself and thus possessed the skill.

[@DudeLongcouch]

@@kirkdarling4120 "First Sergeant Lipton! What do we got?""

[@erich5819]

A little story of a ruthless, talented and very skilled bounty hunter...and he is ridiculously outmatched by his prey.

[@chetstevensq]

Jubal Early has the best dialogue of any character in Firefly. No doubt if there was a season two we would have found out he was picked up by some passing freighter. Watching the cast at conventions is a delight, plenty of hours on KZbin filled with laughs and pranks. You would love Farscape, similar to Firefly but with weirdness.

[@dhb3084]

My personal speculation: "Well, here I am" is Jubal calling his ship to come get him.

[@sirmoonslosthismind]

word of god is that early had a remote control that could summon his spaceship to his location.

[@Nicolas.Vincent]

"Does that seem right to you?"

[@adamwells9352]

It was a pleasure joining you on your trip through the show. Looking forward to the movie reaction.

[@RoGueNavy]

"Can I mop your brow? I am at the ready with the fearsome brow mop!" That is the single-most Wash thing that Wash ever said!!

[@doug3691]

Serenity meets an enemy that requires River to step up, though again with almost no witnesses. He's a very capable and dangerous opponent, and only River is up to the challenge. I find her character arc the most fascinating, and so this is my favorite episode. Also just noticed that River doesn't touch upon one of the characters inner thoughts early on, and that's Kaylee! Anyways, I'm looking forward to your reaction to the movie. Take care.

[@Kayjee17]

I wonder if River could tell Kaylee was afraid of her after the rescue, so she didn't want to see it up close OR she didn't want to make her more afraid by reading her mind. Or both. Either way, it's sad because they were pretty friendly before that.

[@doug3691]

@@Kayjee17 I was thinking that it might be that River didn't want to intrude upon her brother's relationship with a girl. Maybe that her relationship with her brother is so strong that she must perceive him first, and so coupled with guilt in the moment that she leaves before really reacting to Kaylee's presence. She does seem comfortable around Kaylee at the end of the episode, so hopefully no baggage there.

[@guitaroffthecuff-davids5528]

OMG! 1X14!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As always, great reaction. I love how you reacted @09:25 at "Don't make faces." It is mind blowing. She is reacting to his physical action as if she were in the room with him. River is so intriguing. Just think if they had several more seasons to develop the story and help us understand the depth of her intelligence. They could have spent an entire season focused on each character, and I never would have gotten tired of it. Stay awesome!

[@IdsFear]

i hope serenity is next

[@RoGueNavy]

"Well...here I am." The morose lament of every Browncoat.

[@Illvester42]

This playlist is mostly backwards! One should be able to binge it straight through starting from ep1 to ep14, surely? :P Buffy s7, Angel s4 are also backwards... is this how you do playlists, in the opposite order of watching!? 😕 ...but Buffy s6, s5 and Angel s3 are correct order! 😵‍💫lol

[@GeraldTodd-r4z]

Jubal wasn't killed at the end of the episode because Joss Whedon planned on him being a repeat guest star, just like the Russian Minska, the irishman Badger, and Yo/Saf/Bridg. There were plans for all of them to be repeat characters in Joss's planned 4-5 season series. You did good going thru the 14 episodes, just imagine if we had 4 seasons of 22 episodes each to watch. I can cry thinking that. I look forward to the movie.

[@notchjohnsonspf4532]

You are delightful

[@DakaraJayne]

@@notchjohnsonspf4532 no you are 🩵

[@GranpaMike]

It's always hard to say goodbye to the ones you love. "FIREFLY" is a master class on storytelling. After the film, if you find yourself searching for another series to explore, you'll do well to check out "REACHER". Two seasons so far, eight episodes per season, and like this show, you're going to fall in love with the characters. Glad to welcome you into the Browncoat family.

[@bill.godwin-austen]

My mother sometimes used a similarly-starting adage to the one Jane used "If wishes were horses, beggars would ride"... and I thought that's where Jane was going when he started, but then, of course, it took it's own little Jane-esque detour into the bizarre.

[@gamesman0118]

People do eat horses though. Perhaps the closest he ever came to steak is a horse steak.

[@bill.godwin-austen]

@@gamesman0118 Oh, absolutely! And in the world they live in it would be common. I was just musing on the little twist on what had been a fairly common adage I was familiar with.

[@kirkdarling4120]

@@gamesman0118 Yep. Cattle was a black-market commodity, as we saw in "Shindig." We see plenty of ordinary folk with horses, however. So, for "ordinary" folk, a "steak" was probably horsemeat.

[@ryanclark6402]

I prefer a slightly different version: “If wishes were horses, we’d all be hip-deep in crap.” 😂

[@bill.godwin-austen]

@@ryanclark6402 Heh... Sounds like the voice of experience from someone who's mucked out a corral or two in your day.

[@jonathanpatch5281]

"Permission to come aboard?" Such a great line. When she first arrived on the ship, she never asked it, no one granted it--she was just there. She's a problem. She knows this -- she's acutely aware of it in fact. On the other hand, she's just demonstrated that she's perfectly capable of masterminding a pretty effective caper her own self. Is she "solid"? Not even close. But then neither is Jane. Jane's a loose canon, but he is a canon. Sometimes in their line of work, you need a canon. River is more of a Swiss Army Knife, significantly more versatile and useful than a canon. In the universe in which Firefly runs for six seasons and a movie, this episode is the fulcrum in which River starts being seen as less of a problem and more of an opportunity.

[@kirkdarling4120]

Particularly when Mal had asserted early in the series that nobody is allowed on his ship without his permission...which River had not before had.

[@DudeLongcouch]

Welcome to the Browncoats! 14 episodes of bliss, followed by a lifetime of withdrawal. Regarding that continuity error I mentioned from moving episode 12 down in the viewing list, remember when River is having trouble eating her food and she says "My food is problematic"? Jayne then says, "Girl's a mind-reading genius, can't even figure out how to eat an ice planet." But Jayne wasn't supposed to know River was a mind-reader until he clearly learns it for the first time during their conversation in this episode :)

[@ace360]

Notification goes off for The Final Episode of Firefly..Im here also Happy Thanksgiving 🦃 Over there 🤘

[@davidsoule8401]

You did notice that Simon said the same thing when River was just walking the ship and when he was speaking to Kaylie later when he said "I would be there right now......"?

[@Gort-Marvin0Martian]

Always like watching through you eyes. Can't wait for Serenity. As we say in Texas; y'all be safe.

[@jcorbett9620]

What you should understand is that when "Firefly" was green-lit, Joss Wheedon was under the impression that he would have something like 3-5 22/24 episode seasons to work with, which is why there is so little back story for the characters in the episodes that were filmed. The movie does tie up a 'few' of them, but you can't cover all the threads within the timeframe and narrative of a single 90min film, so there is a massive amount missing.

[@joshuawiedenbeck6944]

I'll wait until after you watch the movie to explain anyone's backgrounds. Inara has a very specific reason for not wanting to be in a relationship with Mal. If you go back and watch all of the previous episodes, it is hinted at. There are only a few times where she gets legitimately mad/upset at Mal, and they follow a pattern....

[@corgiluver9718]

"so sad its over"...in some ways the best complement one can say about a show whether it was ended too soon like Firefly or it was completed like Buffy and Fringe. Definitely will be here for the movie.

[@eschiedler]

Despite being horrible, great villians raise the stakes for the crew, making their trust in each other to get through the crisis all the more special.

[@Kavala76]

I'm of the opinion that at the start River was tapping in to each persons biggest regret. For Mal it was the war, for Jayne it was his betrayal on Ariel, for Simon it was leaving the hospital. Shepherd and Inara regrets are in their missing backstory. I also think Jubal had River-like intuition. He seemed unnaturally aware of people's thoughts.

[@michaelwhite1637]

It’s the loss of what-might-have-been that really hurts. If we got five or six seasons for the story and characters to really develop…

[@pjcornelius]

I’d be willing to bet that if you do go back and watch episode one you will see Mal differently than you did the first time, because you now know him much better.

[@DakaraJayne]

@@pjcornelius 100%

[@27dmon1]

There are a couple of graphic novels that you need to read to fill in the some of the blanks. I know it helped me with wanting more Firefly.

[@Allerka]

The kind of funny thing about the ep. is that Jubal is played (very well, I might add) by Richard Brooks. He was the first ADA (junior lawyer) on Law & Order, from 1990 to 1993 and was an incredibly straight-arrow character on the show.

[@menachemsalomon]

Thanks for watching and posting your reactions, Dakara. Looking forward to your posting the _Serenity_ reaction.

[@garthbigelow]

I suppose that nearly everyone watching this reaction has already seen the show. But those few who haven't... That was a mighty odd edit- all reactions to things not shown or setups with no payoff. Still the reaction itself was your uniquely wonderful self. Well done and thanks for taking the ride. Happy Thankskwanukkahweenmas

[@WoncoTheSane]

"Bye Felicia." - Dakara *Dead - me

[@tallicafan85]

Happy Birthday Jo. Make it s very good one. I miss the streams

[@DakaraJayne]

aww thanks so much

[@tallicafan85]

@ I never forget its our bday month

[@zDom]

If you enjoyed Firefly and the Serenity movie, but felt Wash didn't have enough scenes, check out "Con Man" starring Alan Tudyk.

[@JasperAyeee]

ensemble cast 👏👏

[@coyotej4895]

I'm calm,🙁 I'm calm! 😳 IM AS CALM AS THEY COME!😮 LMAO Yup we can tell. Calm as rose pond on a spring day.

[@ernesthakey3396]

River said she'd go with Jubal Early - but that was just a ploy to draw Jubal out of the ship, she was playing everyone. She coaxed Kaylee into freeing herself and unlocking Mal's room, so that Mal could get into place on the hull, ready to give Jubal a boost into space, and meanwhile she's stalling, keeping Jubal engaged until Mal was suited up and outside. Brilliant! You said "Mal and Inara outside the ship" you meant Mal and River. Freudian slip/ship? 😉

[@Xhalph]

Apparently there's an old proverb, "If wishes were horses, beggars would ride." Jayne really mucked it up, but at least kept the spirit of it, that there's no point in sitting around wishing for things.

[@haydn60]

Mmmm, horse steak.

[@Cobinja]

7:55 No worries, we all did wonder.

[@williamberry9013]

First, I'm sorry. No, it ain't my fault, bu I've been there. Second, when River wakes up one of the voices she hears is Jubal's. It is difficult to sneak up on a telepath. Third it has been 20 years and this is still the best telepath pov.

[@wendyheatherwood]

And when she says "it's getting very crowded", she's not necessarily talking about everyone in the cargo bay. She's used to a certain amount of voices in her head when she's on the ship and now there's one too many.

[@canadianicedragon2412]

Jubel does a great job of being... not right in the head. Also there is a line in "War Stories" where Mal says something to the effect of "no one comes on my boat I don't meet" - well until this episode River never asked for "permission to come aboard" and Mal never granted it... officially. Simon does not say he doesn't like (aspects) of his current life, just that it was not his plan.

[@UpLateGeek]

This episode is so great, for so many reasons, and it gives us a glimpse of how awesome the show -would- _should have been_ if it continued. It's weird to think that Jubal Early is a great part of the episode, but he's a genuinely terrifying villain, which makes it all the more an interesting episode. Another "good" part was how Mal asks Simon what would happen if he were the one who River accidentally shot, and he ends up getting shot! At least it was just in his leg, and Zoe was able to step up and help. And that's kind-of what this episode is about, people stepping out of their comfort zone and doing what needs to be done. It would've been so much safer for everyone else if River just gave herself up as soon as Juble stepped aboard, but that would've crushed Simon, and she couldn't hurt him like that, so she stepped up with a plan to get rid of him. Kaylee was terrified, but she stepped up and let Mal out of his locked quarters, and Mal stepped up and did the deed, literally throwing Juble off his ship. But more importantly, the two people who had the most concerns about River decided to put aside those concerns and trust her to do what's right for everyone. In the end, she not only earned their trust back, but wiped away any concerns they had about her being a risk to the crew. The one last thing I'll mention is re: your comment about growing to like Mal more. He was definitely a lot more cold and quick-tempered in the first episode and early in the season. When you think about it, he's probably only had the ship something like 6 months, give or take, and we learned in _Out of Gas_ that she's his last hope at freedom from the tyranny of the Alliance, so at that point he's probably more willing to cut people loose if he thinks they're a threat to his crew or his ship. And we learned in _Ariel_ just how far he's willing to go when they're threatened, but also how much he's willing to forgive. In the end, I don't think he was even entertaining the idea of cutting River and Simon loose. I think by now he's learned that his crew is his family, he just needed that little reminder that your real family are the ones who step up and do what's right when needed. Anysways, I'm glad you loved the show. Can't wait to see your reaction to Serenity! And I believe in you, I believe you can stay awake for the whole movie! 🤣

[@caitlin329]

I've always found it interesting that you refer to him as 'Shepherd' as though it's his forename. I feel like in the third person you normally hear 'the Shepherd' or his name.

[@phtevenj]

i LOVE all this show but out of gas is my favorite episode and this has to be a close second

[@TenebrousFilms]

Was always glad that they managed to go out on such a strong note. The fact that there was an honest-to-gods motion picture was surprising, at the very least. I watched the movie first, then got the DVD box of the series. Can't stay it really ruined anything, that way round.

[@haydn60]

Early's Theme sounds like something from Dark Star.

[@StarkRG]

2:20 "No one's acknowledging that she's there." Yeah, that's not exactly unusual behaviour. People hardly acknowledge my presence most of the time either and have a tendency to claim I was present at events I definitely wasn't present for.

[@1Richard2008]

The acting talent in this show is phenomenal. If you want to see more of Summer Glau you should consider Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. River and Cersi Lannister in one show. If you want a another recommendation for a pilot to try Dark Matter seems like it would be right up your street.

[@anonymes2884]

Contender for my favourite episode (sometimes I chicken-out and just say it's _joint first_ with "Out of Gas" :). This one _might_ be top because OoG is a fantastic episode but ultimately well in the show's wheelhouse whereas "Objects in Space" (as I _think_ someone - Whedon ? - says on a DVD commentary) kind of feels like they snuck it past the network - it's genuinely, brilliantly off-kilter.

[@Repugnantone]

The only way to fall asleep during that movie is to stay awake for at least 36 hours prior to watching the movie. And even then, I doubt you even could fall asleep whilst watching. Just saying. After watching the movie you'll understand what I mean.

[@danl7497]

19:10 Yes, Jubal is very scary. But if you look at it from his point of view, River is scarier.

[@Nicolas.Vincent]

My personal favourite ep 😚👌 Does that seem right to you?

[@jspettifer]

My gf and I saved this episode until the night before the movie was released.

[@ace360]

1:52 Dakara!!!!😂 Shame! Lmao

[@calanor4130]

Yeah, it was with a heavy heart that I watched the final episode. To make matters worse, I had watched the film _first_ due to not even being aware of the "Firefly" show. Thanks, Fox..! I've heard that some Browncoats refuse to watch this episode, deliberately avoiding finishing the show. Take care of yourself! I've seen other content creators take on too much, and it's not a good idea. Speaking from personal experience, a major burnout is no fun at all!

[@jalusbrian]

jubal early existential bounty hunter

[@derekgibson2589]

I think that Firefly might go over a bit better these days. At the time it was made, the big scify hits were Startrek, Battlestar Galactica and Stargate. All futuristic means of transport, dress and weapons and here comes this show, space ship held together with string and chewing gum, no fancy guns just good old gunpowder and bullets plus the hero dressed as if he just walked on set after a night out with the man with no name. The studio heads didn't know what to make of it so they aired it out of order, aired it at bad times and when it didn't immediately get good viewing figures they binned it. Never really gave it a chance to gather an audience as the characters history was revealed. If it was made today it might have a better chance to establish itself but Joss Wheldon's name seems to be poison just now so I don't think that any project of his would get a hearing.

[@CvSp22]

Kaylee is more Tara than Willow. And about Mal: There is 'Mal's Song' here (just use it as search term). It summed his charactere up perfectly.

[@pjcornelius]

Been watching your Fringe (another favorite) reactions. The Expanse is great and you should eventually do that too, but no hurry.

[@kirkdarling4120]

Hurry, hurry to The Expanse!

[@DakaraJayne]

I'm on to season 2 of the expanse. I'll start uploading to KZbin once the serenity movie reaction is out i think

[@Kai-rn7se]

Great reactions, Dakara. Long-time fan of the series here, watched it multiple times and watched multiple other reactors, and still I found so many of your insights and perspectives fresh and thought-provoking. Keep doing Warrington proud (fellow Warringtonian, by the way ;-) ) Enjoy the movie. Strap in for it! Kai

[@RoGueNavy]

Hey, I happen to LOVE the way you say Zoe!!

[@davidcole7788]

how about ted lasso?

[@DakaraJayne]

@@davidcole7788 love that show. I would need to finish the last season, could potentially react to the finale but I watched the other seasons off camera. Rebecca is bae

[@davidbergfors6820]

in one way this is a terrible end for the series, we're left in the middle of a season and just like Early: "Well, Here I am" on the other hand, the series started with Simon sneaking River on board and kicking off all of this hunting them, and here we end with her being welcomed to the ship as herself! I lament how this world wasn't explored more, the lightning in a bottle camaraderie between the crew... this is such an amazing show that should have gotten more time to assert itself as a great sci-Fi show just like Star Trek, Star Wars, Battlestar and Stargate! to me, this certainly fits right up there. a newer one in the same caliber is the series "The Expanse"

[@robertdarger9773]

I don't know if it was mentioned already, but before you watch Serenity, check out River Tam Sessions, it's really good.

[@michaelrunnels7660]

What River was seeing when she walked through the ship was everyone's memories. She saw and experienced their most tramatic and intense memories they ever had. You know where Jayne's memory came from, but imagine what Mal felt at the end of the Battle of Serenity and how he must have questioned his unwavering faith in God. What he concluded about God, faith, and religion was "None of it means a damned thing!". Why would Inara say "I'm a big girl. Just tell me" in her past? It's very very important and one of the most tramatic memories Inara has because it has driven her life from the moment she heard the answer, but what it meant was never revealed. To me, it would be what you would say to a doctor after an examination and he was hesitant to tell you what he found. What River heard Shepherd Book say was also a deep memory of his. All of these were meant to be clues to future episodes about the main characters that never aired. Joss Whedon was asked about all of these things years later and revealed where he intended the storylines to go.

[@tehcoolemu]

Have people actually been mean about how you say names in your accent ("Zo-eh," "Buff-eh," etc.)? Why? :( In terms of Kaylee being like Willow... that just gave me a terrifying mental image. Kaylee's face suddenly goes from playful to deadly serious. Her eyes pierce your very soul as she says, "Bored now." I've enjoyed your takes on the show, looking forward to the movie reaction!

[@dallesamllhals9161]

Great(semi-new)NON Army-Navy-Sci-Fi: The Expanse? 4:54 Huh! Horse meat BAD since PETA or what? ...sry' no +1! Bloody ship-ship = important EDIT: 25:19 YAY-well..my bad: WRITE AFTER Watching!!

[@Sagitarria]

a lot of cultures heat horse but it's not common in some. People are surprized by it if they are not familiar with French or Dutch or Chinese horse meat