Break Seeker Raids In Valheim Mistlands Update

[@RationalOrc]

better idea, relocate your base to a small island where you can stop all monster spawning on the entire island. problem solved.

[@watchd0ge820]

Honestly, I would rather just fight the raids. Cool bunker/panic room though.

[@ArkhamOrderly]

This is something that I've noticed from our elder alter base but I never mentioned it because I was afraid the devs might change it, lol. This base is completely underground. The main part is directly under the alter but we expanded out some with tunnels and a few other rooms. It is all covered with stone flooring as a roof. We breed our wolves down there among other things. Whenever we get a raid, so far at least, the mobs do not attack the stone but they are aware that something is down there. They stand over the area where the wolves are and just look confused while we shoot them with bows. If a player stands under the alter they are aware of them too but just run around in circles and don't attack anything. Bats will actually kamikaze into the alter fire. Mind you there are no structures such as workbenches or carts left on any of the stone because they will attack those. We do go out and kill the mobs but as long as we stay off the stone as much as possible it never gets destroyed and if we do want to run underground they cant follow. I don't know if it will work with the mistlands mobs but we'll find out!

[@hydrocarbon82]

For farms (food, animal) the smarter thing to do is just not have "base structures" nearby. Raids will not happen unless the player is within 40 meters of 3 base structures (portal, bed, workbench, forge, etc). All my food & animal farms have no more than a single portal & workbench and are in a different biome than my base. BTW this is also why you'll trigger raids in the plains, fuling campfires and beds count as base structures.

[@ArkhamOrderly]

@@hydrocarbon82 I agree but you will have to spend some time at your farm occasionally for planting and harvesting. Our farm is also not in the same biome as the main base but it generally takes me one whole game day to plant and feed breeders so I do sometimes get raids there(one in the meadow and one in the plains). However since we only need a mistlands farm for the mushrooms I doubt it will be taking as long so it's probably not going to be much of a problem.

[@Wareitar]

@@hydrocarbon82 Hmmmm, interesting... define "base structures" if you could be so kind? Does walls count?

[@Kymss-j9z]

Really cool

[@WinterFoxful]

For those who truly hate raids...my partner and I have 2 worlds. One, with a small base for supplies, where we kill bosses if we need to or change powers, and another with 0 boss kills that we actually explore/build/play in. The only raid you get, ever, are boars and necks. c:

[@justrock7822]

honestly, killing eikthyr changes the raid to greydwarves which is just a free resource delivery service. Highly recommended. Neck tails are pretty worthless.

[@WinterFoxful]

@@justrock7822 Oh we never collect or kill unless our wolves happen to, we just ignore them. >_>;

[@DevilinPink13]

@@justrock7822 Free rubbish delivery? Later in the game you don't need the greydwarf-stuff anymore. I am at the point that I prefer to let a greydwarf hit me a few times rather than killing him, because I know I will have all that rubbish in my inventory. A greydwarf dropps up to 4 different items and you need none of it. This only means waste of time. You can't kick the stuff out in your base, cause it won't despawn there and you don't want to sort them into the chests cause they are probably full and it's not worth the effort for 1-2 of an item you have chests full.

[@justrock7822]

@@DevilinPink13 obviously you're not a builder. Cheers!

[@DevilinPink13]

@@justrock7822 I am mainly a builder Wait for lategame, you will see You come to the point where you chop down trees very fast, they drop resin all the time and you run through a biome with huge stone columns, set down portals there and smash the column for stone. If you are a builder and you get into late you will have sooo much better sources than greydwarves. They are just not worth the time. Yes they give basically usefull ressources but in an irrelevant amount and probably not at the time you prefer :D

[@Zzues]

Bug out shelter, that is awesome. I am super worried the Ghal event will destroy the awesome Dverger fortress I took over, so might make this escape shelter for myself :).

[@Firespark81]

If the Gjall cant see you they don't attack. The ticks on the other hand will attack whatever you are in. You can just lower the ground around your structure and the ticks cant attack it they have a very hard time with inclines. Now the seekers on the other hand are a different story. They will wreck shop fast and easy.

[@Zzues]

@FireSpark81 Thanks for the info! Keeping my fingers crossed I don't have a raid until my base is safe 😅.

[@DZ-cf6sj]

why does every youtuber talk with this cadence

[@ProffessorYellow]

It's weird talking to yourself in obs etc

[@HighwayW]

its actually an engagement tactic. This style of speaking tends to do better at keeping people's attention.

[@garylau4790]

For trolls, if you make the pillar a bit shorter, approximately 8m iirc, you can hit them in the head with melee weapons, and the trolls can't touch you.

[@Firespark81]

Nice!

[@igrvks]

I prefer moats and islands

[@Enigmatic..]

You could always just put a trench around the bug out box to stop trolls as long as you make it at the right distance the trolls won't be able to reach the structure.

[@solson223]

I built this about 3-4 days ago, exactly as you showed it in the video. I was so proud that I duplicated it precisely. I couldn't wait to try it out. I got a seeker event again today finally. So I went inside and waited. They all flocked to me and almost immediately one of the seekers heads was poking through the dirt wall and doing damage to me. He then glitched or something and came fully through the dirt wall and inside. lol. WTF!?!? I managed to kill him (barely) before he got me. I had already taken a few direct hits while in shock he was poking through the dirt wall. The others stayed outside until the event was over. It's a cool idea but I'll probably just take my chances out in the open. I'm geared pretty well now and shouldn't have any issues. Plus it doesn't look like I will have events in the Meadows once the next patch hits. Thanks for the vid!

[@anttiboy8747]

I was afk watching your mistlandvideo and seeker event happened i didnt realise it first bc of the noises in that video. Died 4 times to them and they destroyed half my base :( not gonna play for a while...

[@somethinstubby5928]

F

[@Luna23tic]

Always pause, never AFK

[@somethinstubby5928]

@@Luna23tic this is a great point. Raids are pretty much to catch AFK players off guard and well...

[@jaxonfreeman1756]

I make my main portal exchange with bedroom under Elder Alter. After I make it I seal the original external entrance with raise ground. Any events when sleeping are meh. When above ground you need to lure them away from your base or suffer the consequences. Bugout might save your life but not your base.

[@99midnightgamer]

I honestly think they need to add setting to turn off certain raids or something. Or a least add better defenses for our bases. Seem like fences, spikes and wall (ground) are useless when it comes to the mistlands. I have to say I like your idea. Might try it.

[@greencheek]

Ballista and traps now! Plus, you could always just drop a stack of refined eitr and watch that destroy the raids.

[@MadsTrier]

@@greencheek how would that work ?

[@barrymacdonald3439]

Why don't you just turn of player structure damage if raids bother you that much.

[@OGZelgadisGraywords]

you don't have to worry about raids if you do not have any raids! (removed them with world modifiers) :D

[@solson223]

This is handy. I think I will try and make one of these. I just got a seeker raid today at my main base that's on the starter island. I guess I was being naive and didn't think I would get a seeker raid there. I basically just ran out into the woods to keep them away from my structure and pets. The did kill some chickens, but no big deal. I ended up dying twice because there were just too many on me at one time. Thanks for the video!

[@blakecorkill]

So, the seekers are more attracted to players? So, if my team did the build in the video a little ways off from the main base the seekers will follow us to the bug out box?

[@solson223]

@@blakecorkill They should come to you, but probably not if you portal too far away. They might just turn to wrecking your base at that point if they can't find you. I had my bunker just outside of the walls of my base.

[@blakecorkill]

@@solson223 tyvm!

[@michaelwolejszo6445]

Bug box, or what we call a bunker.

[@GUNNER67akaKelt]

Yeah, I wish there was a way to turn raids off or at least make them VERY infrequent. Raids are annoying when I'm working around my base trying to get something done. I even had a troll raid while fighting Bonemass because I'd put down some crafting benches... that was fun. I need a do not disturb sign. ;)

[@akaxjenkins]

there are a couple ways. One consists of console commands. You press F5, type devcommands and then type whatever command you want. Look for "listkeys" and "setkey" as well as "resetkeys" in google. These keys store what bosses you have killed in the world. You can set them to false with resetkeys and so the raids are disabled automatically, besides the deer and boar one, the only one that can happen before killing the first boss. You can re-set them to true whenever you want, for example to buy eggs from the dwarf. The other one is using a mod called "disable random events" which i use. Getting mods set up just for this is a bit annoying but you can configure how often and what events can trigger. I have them all disabled but you can choose which one to disable. It's updated to mistlands and so you can disable every single raid.

[@SYL3NZR]

or you can stick with the under-elder base :)

[@isacneto69]

If you're near that, ok, but mostly can not be in Elder base

[@isacneto69]

i have a Lot of bases and i use 70% of then

[@MasterBakkes]

But doesn't the event stay where it originally spawns and stay there until you stand in it for the timer??? Why portal

[@MasterBakkes]

Ok so you built it close to your base lol I stand corrected

[@Firespark81]

yea you have to build it somewhat close to your base. Just not all up in it.

[@MasterBakkes]

Premature comment hahaha always love your valheim information always top notch ty

[@bretclark1608]

Man, that's a lot of effort to dodge raids. Raids that are easy to beat solo. Just clear a field to the side of your base and when you get attacked go out in it and kite everything in circles and take 0 damage while you shoot them till it ends.

[@andrewvice4065]

Facts

[@nblife916]

any idea if they go after crops? that's where it would be worth me building this

[@MysticRedbeard]

yes, mobs attack pretty much anything important to you when they can't reach you, they seem to target boats, carts, workbenches, crops, pets, etc. Pretty much if it matters to you, they will break it.

[@andrewvice4065]

Yes

[@dripman2341]

I never even got a seeker or gjall raid. Idk if I'm lucky or not but I kinda wish I would've got to experience them at least once.

[@Kessra]

After killing Yagluth on a new map for the first time, not even 30 seconds later I had a seeker raid while still recovering from the boss fight ...

[@nickthompson4943]

Using this same mechanic. Can’t you just coat your outer walls in raised up ground. Seekers probably won’t be able to break it, trolls def can’t. You can then shoot them with arrows or ballistae.

[@tylerb2644]

Trolls can break the walls behind it if it’s close and gjalls are still an issue. Those two are the real base destroyers.

[@zurch90]

The only raid that bugs me is the bats.. They fly in and kill my chickens. The way i had my chickens set up was weird and i couldnt get the bats to stop attacking them and i couldnt reach them. I have since learned to put my chickens inside a structure.

[@malinaplays]

Gjall are the worst... had one destroy my entire base, now I am building this...

[@tylerb2644]

Meet them head on outside your base and hide torches, wards or workbenches around your base to keep them from spawning to close to react. Also make a backup of your world incase this happens again it’s super quick and easy.

[@axebjo]

easier to just spawnproof the area around your base with campfires than doing this

[@michaelbayliss4018]

i am terrified of Seeker raids

[@Firespark81]

They are crazy!

[@sdedy379]

that's really good and cheap raid cheese method man, it's better than making earth wall or mote all over the base

[@tisjester]

Noice. Thanks again, great tips.. love the safe room idea.

[@Firespark81]

Happy to help!

[@tisjester]

@@Firespark81 I would have liked to see more comforts in the safe room. You know like big screen TV's maybe a mini-bar.?

[@mickih2872]

Cant wait for the pet safety ones. Fiancè and I have a lot of them

[@Edcognito]

Day of the Mist update, got two seeker raids in my base.... >,

[@Firespark81]

Dang m8 hope your base is ok.

[@OldGamerzNeverDie]

Thanks dude.. you never disappoint. I run a group server and once one person "graduates" to a new raid, it hits everyone, even the newbies... so this would be a way for everyone to co-exist without making the game unplayable for new folks joining the seed.

[@nlgliarmis503]

I got “hunted” 3 times in like 3 hours once. I almost lost my mind

[@Kymss-j9z]

Do seeker raids and yall raids happen in the meadows? Also if you have a large base how do you make this so your hideout is in the red zone?

[@360lootgoon3]

According to the Valheim Wiki, Seeker raids can happen in the Black Forest, Plains, Mistlands, Ashlands and Deep North biomes. According to Reddit, Seeker raids used to happen in the Meadows, but an update changed that, along with nerfing Seeker raids a bit. The Gjall raid can only occur in the Mistlands, and is one of the shorter raids, lasting 90 seconds.

[@360lootgoon3]

Forgot to add: If you have a large base that takes up the majority of the red zone, you’re better off raid proofing the entire area. The red circle is a diameter of about 64 meters, but enemies can spawn out to 96 meters. Players have to be within 40 meters of 3 “base” structures to trigger a raid, and the red raid circle centers on the player when triggered. This means if you’re base has multiple areas with 3 base structures within 40m, the actual area you need to spawn proof is quite large, since the red circle location will change depending on where you are in the base when the raid triggers. The good news? Many of those structures also prevent enemy spawns, each with a diameter of about 20m, the same as a workbench. The structures that prevent enemy spawns are: Misc: -campfire -bonfire -hearth -portal -ward Crafting: -workbench -stone cutter -artisan table -forge -smelter -blast furnace -kiln -windmill -spinning wheel -fermenter Furniture: -bed -dragon bed -sconce -standing iron torch -green iron torch (not sure about blue) -hanging brazier What I do to spawn proof an area is use workbenches, as they provide a visible circle. You want some overlap with the circles as well, because if there’s a gap between 2 workbench circles, enemies can spawn there. When I place one, i then go around and mark the circle edge with vertical wood beams so I know where the edge is when I place the next one. There’s multiple ways of going about placing them. You can dig a hole, place the workbench, then raise the ground to bury it. This makes the workbench unable to be attacked by enemies and you don’t have to look at it. (I do recommend a marker of some kind, so you remember where it is) the second, which is the one I’m currently using, is place the workbench then use 4 half walls to enclose it and put 2 - 26 degree roof ridge pieces to cover it. If enemies can’t directly see the workbench, they don’t attack it. They’re easier to remove that way rather than dig em up, though I’ll probably end up burying em eventually. Spawn proofing also allows some cooler things to do, like forcing raid enemies to spawn in a specific area, then funnel them into a death trap for their loot. This method only works for ground enemies though, as enemies like bats, seekers and Gjall can fly, making them MUCH more difficult to contain. Have fun spawn proofing!

[@Kymss-j9z]

@@360lootgoon3 ty that is great news. I have one build I would rather not have ready for seeker and yjall. The rest ill go out and fight and defend. Ill learn to fight seekers eventually lol

[@Kymss-j9z]

@@360lootgoon3 ty ty. My large base perimeter is overrun w tame lox. Burying the workbenches or fires might be my next plan since they prety much destroy the workbenches. Between fixing fences and workbenches I feel like a valheim cowboy riding the fence line. Lol

[@Kymss-j9z]

@@360lootgoon3 i wonder how seekers and lox fight? I have a small strip of plains that I farm next to the meadow that I can see becoming a battleground lol

[@stevenmiklasinski3705]

didn't tried it yet, but it should be possible to suround your entire base with walls made with the hoe and place the structures on top preventing the seekers to fly inside. i don't like the idea of a small panic room where you are safe inside but can't do anything.

[@Firespark81]

Yes you could do this to your whole base. That fence design will screw up the flyers. When the gjall come just stay in side and out from in front of any windows.

[@kitrozon4422]

Thanks for the info!

[@TheEDFLegacy]

How I did it was simply dig a moat around the base, and using a tree log as the AI can't pathfind on them. For carts, I built a bridge and added a bunch of gates to act as a form of drawbridge. The fact that you figured out this little trick is quite remarkable.

[@theo008]

The thing is you can still get bats and drakes.

[@tylerb2644]

Bats and drakes are harmless if you keep a pair of your livestock indoors

[@tylerb2644]

The only issue is gjalls and seekers can fly over the moat but you can kill them before they cause damage.

[@Zerkael]

Id opt for a raid toggle

[@jeffreyloehr]

I built my home on an island off the mainland. Island can't be too close. It seems @ 100 Stam swim distance works well. Elevate your island about double the height of your character. And you won't get any visitors except bats. I've not had any bug events yet, so unsure how it affects those. I would imagine building an island in the Ocean would eliminate them all.

[@blakecorkill]

So, the seekers are more attracted to players? So, if my team did the build in the video a little ways off from the main base the seekers will follow us to the bug out box?

[@Khalkara]

Nice vid, but there is a much more stone efficient way to make the box at the start of the vid. Once you got the first 'pillar' of stone you can aim the hoe just below the top edge of it, this will raise the next pillar to the same height for only 2 stone. You may need to do this a couple of times to get the same volume in the same 'corner' of the stone box. The way you're instructing how to do it now will make the box cost 48 stone: (2*6)*4 With the efficient method the same box will cost only 24 stone: (2*6)+(2*6) Which may not sound like a lot but we're gonna want to make these Bug-Out-Boxes in lots of locations. In addition its also a time saver because it will cost less clicks.

[@minmaxtax]

I thought the devs fixed this cheap method of raising 🤔

[@Edcognito]

@@minmaxtax I think I've been using it to make walls around my base continuously I don't think they've ever changed anything.

[@michaeldickson5134]

that got changed in hearth and home. been fixed for ages.

[@melma2753]

@@Edcognito They did change it, but they lowered the cost of raising from 4 stones to 2 aswell to balance it out. So it wasnt that big of a nerf. I remember alot of complaining when it was announced, but it was hardly noticeable when implemented, and never really became an issue. I guess thats why it seems to not have changed.

[@Khalkara]

@@michaeldickson5134 What has been fixed? If I make a pillar w/ only 10 stone in my inventory, then grab 10 more stone and use this method I only use 2/10 stone to make that 2nd pillar the same height of the first.

[@ProffessorYellow]

I hope to god that the device add some texture variety options to the hoe for landscaping

[@Broadbenttravis]

I just got the "You are being Hunted" raid last night, while in the plains atop a Fuling stone tower, I was just sitting around trying to tame 2 Lox

[@RazasEnvoy]

Clickbaited! P.S.: incredible art, keep uploading these👍

[@Firespark81]

Thank you glad you like the thumbnail. It always makes me happy when people comment about it because I put a lot of work into them.

[@partsdale]

More Firespark gold - thanks

[@KaffeineRush]

Does the island method prevent the new raids too still or am i f'd in the f'r?

[@Zeldo363]

you can place many workbenches around your base and then enemies will never spawn during the raid

[@314159vedic]

Not true. Workbenches only suppress in their area. When a raid triggers mobs will spawn outside the workbench area and walk (or fly) to your base. Unless you mean plastering a MASSIVE area with workbenches. I've not done that.

[@Zeldo363]

@@314159vedic its not that massive. you need around 200 wood

[@andrewvice4065]

Way easier ways to do this as well as the way you explain raising the ground burned 180 stone roughly when you only needed 32 if done right, however yeah garbage idea just spawn proof either island or make moat or dirt wall 4 high around base allows building anywhere

[@OhKindSir]

My 30 2 star wolves take care of any raid that has come to the door. I don’t have a wall or moat. A seeker brute is the only thing that put damage on the base.

[@Firespark81]

Have you seen the gjall and ticks lmao. Also how loud is your base?

[@petroandras]

Do they work against the gjall and the drakes?

[@isacneto69]

i have 30 2 star Wolves, and 10 2 star loxes, but that New Raid with gjall Just fucked me

[@RigItRay]

I suppose you could shot arrows through the gaps down on enemies too.

[@Firespark81]

No if you climb on top the seekers will adjust their fly height and the fence will not keep them out. Stay in safety box.

[@isacneto69]

​@@Firespark81 panic Room hahahahaha

[@GreenAppelPie]

I got raided by bats yesterday, it was terrifying and I quit Valheim

[@juanpinzon8239]

hahaha bats are so easy to deal with, you one shot them with every weapon and they deal no damage to you

[@Firespark81]

lmao omg I hate bats they are not even hard, they dont even hurt but its like getting raided by gnats. Most annoying raid ever.

[@Fimbltyr]

Bats won't hurt you or your base much but they DO wreak havoc on your pets........ Bye bye 2* boars :/

[@IsaacChoo88]

Is there any reason to tame boars? Especially the 2* boars

[@diabolisfelinus]

I don`t get it. Just build a portal close to the big rock and glitch inside, that would be the same but much easier

[@EricBohner]

If an enemy damages a rock it goes from empty to solid and you are pushed out of it.

[@HunterXJacobOG]

Pickaxe has excellent Aoe in this situation!

[@rawsick]

If anyone builds this or plays like this that’s honestly sad

[@tylerb2644]

Ikr if your scared to lose your base just make a backup of ur world and face the raids head on outside your walls.

[@AegisAuras]

It’s not so much about *needing* an impenetrable base. It’s about *wanting* one. There’s satisfaction is crafting a perfect design. In a base defense game, that equates to an impenetrable base.

[@Longi1974]

I think that is an unfair criticism. This is a sandbox survival game, and part of the fun for many players is the freedom to devise, engineer and build solutions like this with the presented game mechanics.

[@alpaul]

useless long vid

[@tisjester]

Come on you can do a better insult than that.. It is like you are not even trying! Not even worth FS's time to read let alone reply to this weak comment.

[@Fukyoubigtime]

I would like to point out that the raids aren’t dangerous enough to warrant any of this work. Even the seeker raids at endgame did nothing to my base. I finished my play through without even building the new ballista.

[@Ugh-Fudge_Bwana]

How did you even come up with this design? The fact that players would go through this much effort to disable or cheese raids should clue the developers into the fact that raids and defenses for them may not be a well designed mechanic.

[@Firespark81]

It really wasn't that much trouble. I have a pretty good understanding of how their AI works. Took me about an hour to come up with it and about a day to perfect it.

[@datuputi777]

@@Firespark81 Lol this was like continuation of anti squito thing you did 🤣

[@RodneyG669]

The seekers are so strong that nothing can stop them, if you build plain walls you are screwed.

[@datuputi777]

@@RodneyG669 Dirt wall op but yea you need the machicolation like protrusions to keep them from getting in. I think you can just add them as like a rampart on dirt walls and see if it works.

[@KcGanjaBoy]

Raids ain't that bad. Maybe, maybe we should have option to not have them, or that wards don't allow them to start. But I don't mind them. Anyone who says that raids destroy your bases, that bs from my experience. As soon as raid starts, all you gotta do is exit your buildings/base, while still in the area of the raid. Fight if you wanna fight/farm drops or run untill timer runs out, raid ends and then take care of stranglers. If anything raids make sure you don't walk around on 25 hp while sitting in the house. And I think that is not bad

[@HATERFREENATIONSQUAD]

Going to be honest here but midway through watching this video i was questioning why go through all this to avoid the raids. Its only a couple of minutes and you can get free resources from other biomes and not worry a out transport. Yes some raids can be annoying like the seekers but you learn your base layout as a whole and fix the cracks..just seems pointless to build this

[@Mryourporn]

Nice box 🤣 live it!

[@Mryourporn]

I hope you get my joke, get it live it 🤣

[@Mryourporn]

I'm very disappointed from the balistas and also why the heck they are trying to kill me all the time 🤣