First Gigantamax Battles - We FAILED and then we didn't

[@Mina-barina]

Hail to the unofficial beta testers! Kiwis are pokeGo's strongest soldiers! :salute:

[@Tagman50]

🫶🫶🫶

[@allanguimaa]

bro seems to be a little envious about the shiny charizard! hahahah

[@Tagman50]

I'm still in disbelief now

[@NoiGojin]

Was impossible with less than 10 people 😂 glad you managed to get a good group!

[@Tagman50]

I was so glad they nerfed it early enough for us to get it down 😅

[@nik8675]

@@Tagman50 the nerf is live? Was everyone in ur group carrying level 30-40 mons?

[@LordGallvion]

​@nik8675 don't forget max defense and max spirit. Level is one thing, you're not going to be able to resist damage or heal your friends if you don't have max spirit.

[@ssjronin3972]

​@@Tagman50where did you see they said they were nerfing them?

[@Tagman50]

@@ssjronin3972 There was a post on Twitter earlier by pogocentral

[@stavstavit]

Finally a kiwi pogo-tuber to follow and get updated earliest possible - I subscribed immediately 😎 Can't wait to get early sneak peaks to the future 😁 One tiny request, I hope you don't mind me saying - the background music is a bit too loud...

[@Tagman50]

Thanks for the feedback 😍 I'll keep that in mind! I edit with headphones which are bass heavy so it tunes out higher frequencys when I'm sound tuning. Then when watching the same video on my cellphone later on that evening I hear all the high notes and it sounds tinny and loud 🤦‍♂️ I'll keep this in mind 👍

[@jechtbomb]

Bro! Stoked to be part of this man. What a grind!

[@Tagman50]

Great to see everyone getting after it 💪 Massive hype on site with those shinies huh!

[@jechtbomb]

@@Tagman50 oh for sure! Hope to see you there again soon! We'll be doing darkrai raidhour on Wednesday if ur keen

[@poppukonfilm]

The quick realization that it's incredibly hard 😅

[@Tagman50]

No fake reactions around here 😅

[@okden6277]

Yoo nice! That shiny gigantamax charizard looked dope. Hopefully find myself in Hamilton when there's a meet up happening soon. 🙌🙌

[@jibbles42]

Should be something happening at 10am down london st (river end).

[@lifelangueleo]

Good stuff for keeping at it!!!Instead of seeing other content creators complaining 😅

[@WarFearLives]

Happy to be apart of this clip, clean and simple clip with good peeps!

[@LordGallvion]

How many players didn't have mons with max defense and max spirit?

[@WarFearLives]

@@LordGallvion I was mainly with a group of 5 members with 40/50 mons with guard and spirit, not sure on the others. we had to strategize with who is using shield/heals within your own team (4 players) to ensure damage was done without wasting max charges

[@Tagman50]

Great putting faces to names too! I've seen your name in the Auckland raid chat but no idea what anyone looks like in their 😅

[@WarFearLives]

@@Tagman50 yeah, good to put the face to the trainer! Hope to stumple along sometime again in the future~

[@bomatsu]

Nice brother! Looking forward to seeing more content in the future 💪🏽💯

[@Tagman50]

Thank you brother! We doin this 💪

[@ADzDaRRman]

Gotta Love it, Love how us kiwis get to test shit first, just found u can't wait to watch more

[@Tagman50]

Welcome to the chaos 💪

[@samporter2146]

Great to see N.Z content creator's . Thanks for this .

[@Tagman50]

Hey Sam! I remember you commenting on my earliest vids! Good to see ya bud 💪

[@chriso203]

The hype was awesome! 2 shinies

[@Tagman50]

No better feeling when it happens with this game 💪

[@Musli_i]

Yo sick bro, glad to finally have found a kiwi pogo youtuber! Heading down to the city for a meetup tmrw! Cheers from auckland

[@Tagman50]

Good luck for the grind tomorrow! Don't trust those spoofer lobbies though haha, they mostly weak 🤦‍♂️ They should for the most part be flying somewhere else by then though

[@loubfroeschli8684]

Thanks for this, we are a small active community in our town, hope we get enough people together to do a raid or two...

[@yezzah]

Nice there are shinies available. Managed to catch 2 Charizards, 1 Blasty, sadly Venusaur ran. Gonna try again tomorrow =)

[@Zeptiik_]

Yo that’s hectic subbed! From aus

[@Qtree10]

We did some Giratinas here instead 🤣

[@Tagman50]

Latest feedback from most comments seems to be the same... these are way harder than they need too be tbh

[@Moh_bb]

Only click the max attack when it is almost full, it does the most efficient damage, well a bit more

[@Danklin559]

Let’s go tagman these raids were pretty fun …something my community would be able to do like once a month 😅 idk if we would we able to do this everyday or every release getting everyone together to raid another version of Pokémon we already have is hard

[@Tagman50]

Haha I hear this! Likely why release so far is only a few days at a time then they dissappear 😅 Up to 40 man raids will get old so quickly

[@AudioDreamCity]

Learned a lot from this

[@zyrup_]

love your vibe

[@Dibbelchen09]

I was hyped for it. We get 6 to 10 good accounts together on good day but 15 is a stretch. Rn this feature is not for us then.

[@Tagman50]

I appreciate your way of wording this. Yes right now 😞 But it'll change at some point if they still want it to be a viable feature going forward

[@AlexNexton]

Legend 👊

[@Tagman50]

Thanks! 😊

[@hofile6765]

Can the new event be ready when it launches even in the first time zone?

[@MayFleet]

5:16 that look

[@Tagman50]

🥲🫣

[@MayFleet]

@@Tagman50 I know that look all too well brotha

[@AshieMC95]

Kiwi KZbinr nice bro. Few of us tried to do these earlier I couldn't join but wasn't easy most failed since not a big community here. You're wearing a shirt with my name on it *giggle* pretty good looking too 😁 hope you had fun!!

[@Tagman50]

I wanna be, the very best! Iykyk! Popular opinion is when they come back they should easier - I hope they're right for smaller communities sakes especially

[@AshieMC95]

@@Tagman50 if youre ever in Wanganui hit me up lol. I'll ask you out for coffee and a pogo grind 😺

[@Tagman50]

No doubt we'll get there at some stage 🙂 Will let you know!

[@mobious01]

I mean with people not taking the right counters of course it makes the battle harder

[@Tagman50]

Funny how that works huh 🤦‍♂️ If we don't learn, we don't grow :)

[@tj4234]

In fairness in normal 5 star raids when you have that amount of trainers you can basically enter with anything and still win.

[@Tagman50]

@tj4234 Exactly haha. When lobbies are full I usually try switch out my last mon so I can get the final strike with a pikachu. Looks funny as versus a legendary

[@tj4234]

@@Tagman50 I'm doing the Level 46 Unique Pokémon raid challenge. So I just enter 6 random things

[@Amarba55i]

Congratulations 🎉

[@Tagman50]

Thank you!

[@jmoriarty8000]

I’ll never be able to do these, it would be a miracle if I even got 6 ppl

[@Shini_gami09]

Even with 40 ppl we couldn't take it down.

[@真煮姆]

[@tiredhero]

Hate the fact my son was so buzzing to try and get one of these and we have no chance of getting him one Loving in a small village miles away from a town. We have about 5 people in the village that play

[@flareonguy7922]

My community's dead, but even if it wasn't I wouldn't feel much better. I just don't have the stardust to power up a proper team of dynamax guys. I've got a dynamax metagross powered up to level 30, a dynamax cinderace powered up to level 40, and a dynamax falinks that I haven't powered up once. I have enough candies to power up the metagross more, just have under 5k stardust left at the moment. This feature just kinda makes me envy spoofers.

[@DheubtJurel]

Brother I will tell you the tips if you want that Pokemon then make a alt account and spoof with that account and trade with your main

[@Tagman50]

I hear ya! And even the spoofers seem to be having a tough time cause with this mechanic, simply having numbers doesn't cut it anymore. I want to say good luck but sounds like that does the majority of players no good without players in their area that are even half as prepared as they need to be 🤦‍♂️

[@DheubtJurel]

@@Tagman50 follow my tips but don't spoof with your main

[@mariancheksk2837]

this is genuinely so cool, but the saddest thing is u need ATLEAST 10 people and i have no one in my area so i just cant do the raids 😭maybe one day ill get one gigantamax pokemon

[@woodenleagueheroesLegends]

you can get them easly with trading :) so offer someting, and someone will fly to you offering one without a problem

[@125SonGoku]

Incase I missed it how many players did it take for you guys to beat this? And did everyone need to have 3 Pokémon Maxed out for it?

[@Tagman50]

Looking like 10 strong accounts, good counters with good coordination. Gone are the days we can jump in someone's random lobby and let them do the work for us 😅

[@Goldfishfan212]

In the top right corner you can see the number of Pokemon left so 45 Pokémon divided by 3 is 15 players.

[@jmoriarty8000]

@@Goldfishfan212only once I’ve had 7 ppl do a raid in my area, no shot I get another 3-5

[@ByHonext]

WAITTT NEW ZEALAND LESH GOOOOOOOOOOO

[@Tagman50]

Kia ora 💪💪💪

[@uknownentityy]

I think that ghastly was me 😢

[@Tagman50]

Nobody would ever know 👀

[@chuyistheshiz6811]

Thanks for this. I'm in Colorado USA and this is helping me get ready.

[@Tagman50]

Glad it's helping someone 😅 Thanks for watching!!! And good luck 💪💪

[@dhruvshukla280]

Way too strong... specially when u cannot rejoin the battle😢.. way too unfair for players in rural areas..😢 rip niantic

[@leviticus9086]

makes me miss the game! xD

[@Tagman50]

We miss you too brother!

[@raptorfulify]

Our community is too dead for 10 people raids. My wife and I are honestly depressed there isn't alternative ways to get G-max.

[@Bayard1503]

Hm, the question is if people were using Guard or Spirit

[@rwolfeosrs954]

what does some1 liek me where in my area its just not popular enough to get that many people around together maybe during raid hour on tue if theres enough

[@nixequestrian3721]

We tried just after 11am during the second round & it was impossible with 7 players- Didn't even do 5% damage. No one had powered up their Dmax mons to high enough level as too expensive I guess... My were all in the 2000cp range but I'd not maxed the moves out as not enough energy to do so & still be able to battle. Guess this feature is only for those that live in areas with a big player base or large cities. I'll have to get my gmaxs through trade :/

[@Tagman50]

I think that's going to be the same for most of NZ :( CBD battles in Auckland area filling up consistently but mostly with the wrong counters so even 40 is not enough 🤦‍♂️

[@nixequestrian3721]

@@Tagman50 Yeah, I was just watching some other pogo youtubers getting trashed in lobbies of 40 players, so thinking it's not going to happen here unless Niantic rebalances the raids overnight. I've spent todays MP powering up my attacks & dropped almost 1million stardust powering up counters, but I think it'll be for nothing tbh. Every battle we tried at least one fifth of the people would end up kicked out or the game freezing on them, so 7 was the highest number actually battling in the raids each time.... It was a total shite show trying to do them.

[@nixequestrian3721]

I'd like to know what counters Niantic think would allow for just 10 players to take them down given that is the recommended minimum they state lol.

[@Tagman50]

@nixequestrian3721 10 sounding more like an absolute minimum than a "recommended". L40+ with max moves, make use of Gigantamax obtained from previous raids 🤦‍♂️ But gotta win one to get one so 🙃

[@nixequestrian3721]

@@Tagman50 100%!

[@steadmister]

Shot guys, hope we get it tomorrow now

[@Tagman50]

Theyll likely nerf it again due to all the complaints by then 😅

[@illicit4539]

Mean video bro

[@Tagman50]

Thanks brother!

[@bobbyjp88]

Are you gonna hit up loyd elsmore nex?

[@Tagman50]

Yep we're heading to the charizard near entrance now :)

[@emanuelfer456]

Worst feature so far. Why? 1- Only big communities and spoofing communities get a chance of doing it. I say "chance" because a lot of people with 30 + players couldn't beat the raid in question; 2- Releasing now gigantamax before december community day to force people who save Charmanders and Squirtles to evolve during it and get the legacy move, now have to evolve and use Elite tms; 3- Low % of players even had a chance to get good pokemons and not to mention having the candies for level 50 or to max a power move (specially the new gen starters) 4- Shit rewards for such difficult raid given you needed that huge amount of people, other than the gigantamax pokemon encounter, which is not guaranteed. 5- Not remoteable (only for spoofers)

[@Schnapsbrennor]

Ten people huh? Ok fuck it.

[@matildagaming8329]

⁠hey I’m in NZ but I live in a rural area so this is basically impossible for me

[@cocolanfofolan2508]

So let me get this straight. People went up to this thing proclaimed to need at least 10 good players with stuff that wasnt even powered up? Not saying I expect everyone to have 3 fully maxed out pokemon ready to go. But that was really clutch with 15 people, but glad to see it can be done. Then I guess there's some hope if people are actually available at the same time today.

[@Tagman50]

The new mechanics changing mindsets imo. Unlike raids of old simple numbers doesn't work anymore and counters actually matter. And then... there's more 🤦‍♂️ Targeted charge moves!

[@SoonLeeNZ]

@@Tagman50 Tactics actually matter with Gigantamax raids. I went to a city meetup & we had enough numbers, but there were still a few accounts we ended up carrying. I mean who brings Squirtles to a Charizard Gigantamax raid...

[@Tagman50]

Exactly this! The next meet another player and myself are looking to trade other players leveled up haunters so they'll have something to help us with. Free evolutions to gengar.

[@cocolanfofolan2508]

@Tagman50 that is actually a really good idea. Also people are talking about using greedent as damage spong and swapping in gengar or metagross for the d-max section. Seems to work rather well since greedent is double resistent to ghost. Though gengar has other moves too so idk.

[@Tagman50]

@cocolanfofolan2508 Something I'm looking to experiment with when Gengar drops in a couple days. No chance of getting a crew together before the weekend BUT will be able to do some tests with a small group to try and gauge the new difficulty level based on how much damage we can deal before it dies out. Will be testing the greedent theory too

[@kshitijchetan4476]

In which country you are

[@Tagman50]

Hello from New Zealand 👋

[@BiswajeetBaliarsingh]

Location please

[@zeanfulgencio3427]

Sub for a great content HAHAHAHA

[@Tagman50]

Oh snap, did I say that 🤣

[@adamking_cre]

It seems like Gigantimax will be short lived are people really hyped about this??

[@kentrodrigoroble8822]

Exactly. Probably only 1% of the player base are excited for this. Those who have a very active community will be the only ones to get these mons

[@Tagman50]

Seems they are, the reaction too this video alone (I had 353 subs when I first posted) kinda proves the hype but very much seems this for now at least it's catered to a very specific player demographic. Make it easy enough for everyone, and it becomes exciting for noone. They'll get nerfed to a point at some stage soon that a great deal more can feel that same hype. Only kinda positive is not losing particles for losing the battle

[@Canadian_snowman]

Max battles feel like a cheap knock off of raids with less features and worse mechanics

[@eleganteimbecil1655]

This content is impossible for many players. There’s rarely enough people in my area to do a 5 star raid…

[@Pokebattleleague]

Sweet got the gigantameh now what? Genuinely interested if there's a point?? ☝️🤲 🤷 Hope something amazing comes from all this headache

[@Tagman50]

I'm hoping so too! There'll need to be a point... at some point though for the longevity of the game

[@Stuffynes]

Chur brother

[@Tagman50]

Chur mbro. We here for the chaos 💪

[@javiiblue0731]

Bro how are solo players supposed to play this shit 😢

[@lordhe8861]

the game is garbage

[@Tagman50]

I know plenty that agree Yet, I'm still here

[@XXLRebel]

So because it's hard to even find people already they decide to introduce a feature that requires even more people? Genius🤌