First Rim Brake, Now Steel? Colnago Steelvelo's Stunning Design!

[@eto2352]

Colnago is smart to play on their heritage and high end, unique products. I'm sure this is sold out already. It's far better strategy than trying to make another carbon bike, lost in the crowd.

[@klein-concept]

@@eto2352 fully agree. Hope they will bring some steel bikes at more affordable pricepoints

[@bennettshfd2]

Steel is real!

[@klein-concept]

Yes 🤜🤛

[@JohnMayo-n6e]

I am fascinated by this bike. I wonder if they have all sold

[@klein-concept]

@@JohnMayo-n6e i would think so but maybe if you re quick you can still try 🫶

[@GeorgeD1]

I said it under another video, but I will say it here again - at this point it feels like we've "completed" cycling in its current framework (pun may or may not be intended), and now we've clicked on "New Game +" and we're starting from steel again, just with more experience, skills and tools... 😁

[@klein-concept]

@@GeorgeD1 very well said and confirms the typical cycle of trends like in fashion or music as well

[@nomondayclub]

masterpiece

[@klein-concept]

@@nomondayclub i think we should both get one 🤜🤛

[@reinholdachleitner2069]

Superb machine and Shimano 105 11speed mechanical would look great on it and more affordable.💯✌🏻🚴‍♂️

[@klein-concept]

Hehe the perfect combo 🫶

[@kawabus]

I enjoy the clean lines. Curious how the 3d printing impacts the ride quality.

[@klein-concept]

Also very interested how it compares to a classic steel bike 🤜🤛

[@subzero7827]

Pure italian Magic.

[@klein-concept]

I agree. Has something to it 🫶

[@jcharlesbayliss]

For Sunday afternoon riders, how about Colnago master x-light frame set, available new for 2,500e , Zipp firecrest wheels < 1000e for good used set, Shimano Dura Ace 9000/9100 NOS < 1,500e, then bars, stem, post, saddle pedals < 250e

[@klein-concept]

@@jcharlesbayliss true but even a xlight frame is not the same as this one 🫶

[@superstrada6847]

I wish it was affordable, would buy it in a minute! it's a Smiling Sexy Supremely Steel Stallion: An Italian Stallion no less! Lovely. 🤩

[@klein-concept]

@@superstrada6847 agreed 🤜🤛

[@enriquevera2000]

Almost Perfect...... the mechanical group is Missing....

[@klein-concept]

@@enriquevera2000 this would be so cool with a mechanical groupset. I agree 🫶

[@NewPolishScientist]

Love it but why only 70 units? I never get one

[@klein-concept]

@@NewPolishScientist maybe they will derrive some other framesets from this

[@simonalexandercritchley439]

Definetly a collectors item.Apparently they tried steel fork but decided to use carbon.The price is in the stratosphere,making 3d titanium the better option.How does it compare to classic steel in ride quality is the question?

[@klein-concept]

Yes would love to compare the ride feel 🫶

[@andrewmurgatroyd9214]

If I had 18000 to spend on a steel bike I would spend less and get the absolute awesome Bataglin with top groupset... campy ofcourse. Colnago's bike is really more for collectors but I don't see it going up in value over the years rather down as the bike industry keeps coming up with these insanely good but insanely expensive bikes.

[@klein-concept]

Good point with the Bataglin. Good competition for this Colnago 🫶

[@jenmac287]

u buy a Harley.

[@dcv9460]

Just buy a carbon frame and paint it silver 😂 Because it just looks like an ordinary carbon bike silhouette 💯💯💯 The only thing special is the PRICE 😂😂😂

[@klein-concept]

Hehe but a cabron bike is WAY more fragile than this and thats what i love about it. But yes by now these steel bikes look like regular carbon ones 🫣

[@davidpan2405]

It looks more like aluminium to me with these oversized tubes. It’s good that they show what is possible with steel nowadays, and that they didn’t make a retro steel version for this anniversary.

[@klein-concept]

@davidpan2405 i also like the retro material meets modern tech approach 🤜🤛

[@valmorell]

I heard that 70 is the exact number of Californian dentists that ride bikes😂

[@klein-concept]

Hahahahahahha coincidence? 🤜🤛

[@trevekneebone369]

Where do I fit my downtube shifters? I guess I'll have to stick with my lowly Master 🤷‍♂️

[@klein-concept]

Hehe. Maybe doublesided tape could work 🫶

[@edzardruehe6886]

You even can get a Falkenjagd in Titan for 7 to 8000 Euro similar to this steel bike with 3D technokgy and similar look

[@klein-concept]

That is true. And it is titanium 🫶

[@bengt_axle]

It is a lot of money, but when you consider the components and wheels are at least $6K and it is a novel custom design, it is not that surprising. These bikes are not for production. They are collectors items for people who will ride them a bit and own a bit of history, and also opportunities for designers and engineers to develop new products. In that regard, I see a new product: A custom builder offering a unique seamless look without spending a huge amount of time filing and polishing because all of the joints are butted together and the tube is fitted over the lug, not inside it. You just polish out the soldering along the flat surface. Possibly, it could save a lot of shop work (and tooling cost) and the unique frame command a higher price in the custom market. I can even see Columbus offering a curved top tube like a Roubaix or Sworks. Right now, it seems that 3D printing those custom lugs is too expensive. But if they cast 20 or so different lugs, then it might be more cost effective to offer it to frame builders. It could be a modernized steel bike for leisure riding and I certainly don't think the 1 kg of extra weight is a problem, especially since it is not a race bike. It is not at all unusual for a high end custom steel bike (e.g. Saffron, Victoire) to be priced around $10K, and there are even carbon race bikes costing this much which will provide a less comfortable ride!

[@klein-concept]

Fully agree with everything you say and lets see how steel bike manufacturing might change in the next years 🤜🤛

[@carlomatik6392]

Leider Faktor 10 außerhalb meines Budgets x) Apropos, ich möchte mir über den Winter mein erstes Rennrad überhaupt zusammenbauen und bin durch deine Videos auf Waltly gekommen, bin aber sehr unerfahren, was den ganzen Prozess mit der Auswahl an Chain / Seat Stays etc angeht ... Falls mir hier jemand Feedback geben könnte zu der CAD Zeichnung die Waltly mir zurück geschickt hat wäre das eine enorm große Hilfe :)!

[@klein-concept]

Hast du vielleicht schon ein rad welches dir gut passt? Bei mir war das das Standert Triebwerk. Haben einfach die dimensionen als referenz genommen und glaube nur etwas mehr platz für reifen gemacht.

[@carlomatik6392]

@@klein-concept Leider noch gar kein Rennrad :/ An den Dimensionen meines Gravelrads habe ich mich so ganz grob orientiert was Reach und Stack angeht und habe mir dann das Tarmac SL8 als Richtwert genommen, aber bei der Auswahl der "Rohrform" die man angeben muss bin ich dann völlig verloren :D Also nur Gott kennt den Unterschied von geraden Seat Stays vs gebogen vs doppelt gebogen ... Chain Stays genau so

[@bengt_axle]

Buy a used frame first, as close as possible in size to your needs. It can be aluminium. Then spec it with the crank size, stem and bars and just ride it until the fit feels very good. Change the stems and position a few mm to understand how your position affects your performance (particularly the saddle setback, since it will affect your weight balance on the bike). Once you understand and feel the difference, you'll be in a better position to order a custom or steel titanium bike, by copying your best position. The seatpost angle and head angle and top tube may be the most important decisions in a custom frame, but it is really our position, core strength and morphology that defines what it should be. The money you spend on testing out your best position on the road, will be returned to you when you have a perfectly fitting custom bike that you won't have to sell or upgrade. For example, you can get an extra long or short head tube to eliminate spacers under the stem or a shortened chain stay (405mm) to make it accelerate faster in a crit race.

[@klein-concept]

@@carlomatik6392 in dem fall würde ich sagen fahr mal paar rennräder probe oder mach ein bike fit aus dem du deine abmessungen raus bekommst.

[@carlomatik6392]

@@klein-concept Ich habe für mein Gravelbike damals ein Bikefitting machen lassen, da habe ich Sattelhöhe, Sattelsetback, Sattelspitze-bis-STI und Sattel-Vorbau-Differenz gesagt bekommen sowie eine grobe Richtung für Stack und Reach bei Rahmen an denen ich mich orientieren sollte

[@psnSupergrobi10]

Leider nicht im Budget, muss für das V4RS Pogi Weltmeister Edition sparen

[@klein-concept]

Auch geil 🫶

[@jackronin4371]

Titanium is next...

[@klein-concept]

@@jackronin4371 you think? Would be interesting 🤜🤛

[@toddmcdonough]

I want to like this frame but there is something oddly sterile about it. I think Italian bikes need to be flamboyant with wild paint and superfluous elements. This bike has the personality of a spoon. Safe and effective, but dull and harmless.

[@Raymond-Farts]

" The personality of a spoon" I love that. It fit's perfectly.👍🏼👍🏼

[@acidrums4]

I won't mind the absence of a paint job (naked stainless steel looks great imho) but it's that they built it using that stupid modern geometry. Why is the top tube not parallel to the ground? Even more, if it was lugged it would be amazing. But it seems (or as far as I know) that the only major italian builder that is doing such bikes is Battaglin.

[@klein-concept]

Personality of a spoon hahahahaha. Love it. I see your point but i personally like the look and would be a happy rider on that spoon i think 🫶

[@toddmcdonough]

@@klein-concept I feel bad that I was a bit harsh with my opinion.

[@klein-concept]

​@@toddmcdonoughHaha no need. I think it also did fit well somehow 🫶

[@ariffau]

At that price, why buy a steel bike from Colnago when you get something else from Passoni, Sturdy, J.Laverack or Stelbel?

[@klein-concept]

True that but one could argue that Colnago has an impressive 70 year heritage which also adds lots of emotional value.

[@ariffau]

@ I was born a bit too late to appreciate Italian heritage like Colnago’s. Heck, I can’t even afford a Campagnolo groupset in 2025 now they have dropped out Centaur, Athena, Potenza and Veloce.

[@bengt_axle]

I think you'd have to be a Colnago fan and want something unique like these lugs which go inside the tube and provide a seamless finish.

[@blackjackpinoko]

Stainless steel would be better. SS > Ti > Steel

[@klein-concept]

@@blackjackpinoko but this is stainless steel given that it is unpainted 🫶

[@bennettshfd2]

That's ridiculous!

[@klein-concept]

It is a limited edition after all 🫠

[@klein-concept]

The price for limited editions i guess

[@synsynsy]

@@klein-concept Why is it a limited edition? The bike looks nice, with a "proper" high price it would sell. Why did they have to make it limited? My intuition tells me that 3d printed steel won't hold over tine. But how would one know for sure?

[@Raymond-Farts]

Why would a collector want to collect a Colnago that isn't a Colnago anymore? The bike is only worth maybe and I mean maybe $5000 US with a Shimano group set. We've already established in tons of other videos nobody wants the Campagnolo electronic group set. Any steel fabricator is probably laughing their butts off at the claims made by Colnago in the production of this. And, I heard the asking price was over $18k.

[@klein-concept]

What makes it not a Colnago for you anymore? But thats crazy over 18k$ 🫠

[@Raymond-Farts]

@@klein-concept It remained a family-controlled firm until May 4, 2020, when it was announced that the UAE-based investment company, Chimera Investments LLC, had acquired a majority of the Colnago shares from Ernesto Colnago, although the headquarters will remain located in Italy after the acquisition. Ernesto doesn't put his name on the bike anymore and doesn't have anything to do with development of new products. It's just another bike using engineering that's already been in use by other companies and nothing special. Being steel it's easy to weld and hide the seams. I'm happy that steel was used to make this bike but totally pissed about the price and the limited production for marketing sake.

[@klein-concept]

Interesting. I didnt know that. Watching the GCN docu it seemed like its one of the same designers from ages ago who worked on it but maybe i mixed that up.

[@derekcranson2307]

It's a joke for this price.

[@cyclingchef3531]

it is not. is just 70 models of it worldwide avalible, if i Would be a billionere cyclist i would by it for sure to have it in my collection, for now aluminium caad and aluminium merida it's enough

[@klein-concept]

I dont know if its a joke. I think they are all made fully by hand except for the 3d printed at thjs very limited quantity. When you look at some premium custom bike builders you are also very quickly at 5k+ euro for the frame. And its not a Colnago.

[@klein-concept]

That caad must ride amazingly i heard 🤜🤛

[@cyclingchef3531]

​@@klein-concept Yes it's ride fantastic! people called me crazy for putting that amount of money on "cheap" aluminium frame, but I have a one of a kind bike in the world fully custom build :D and its costs me 4500 euros

[@klein-concept]

@cyclingchef3531 thats the spirit 🤜🤛

[@christerlundgren3805]

Nope mf (colnago! Who will be able to buy it? Wont see this marvel in a classic race or in the pro circuit so what Hype is this for bike?? C 40, master, Mexico that is still on the market has legacy and why put out an bike that wont have any wins to show? Can have the exact frame copy in titanium for 2000$, 3D from Taiwan/ China .. Show it in the rear is my opinion.

[@klein-concept]

@@christerlundgren3805 yes it looks like it will be a pure collectors item. But i would still love to give it a testride 🫶

[@christerlundgren3805]

I'll ride it as well. Nope for these prices...

[@Raymond-Farts]

@@klein-concept This bike has no appeal to a collector. Colnago can say what they want but it doesn't mean anything to a collector. This bike hasn't done anything and nobody famous has used it. Just because it's limited only means Colnago is directing this towards the Fools that want to part with their money. It's just a marketing ploy.

[@thcpills]

this frame trash

[@klein-concept]

Why do you think so?

[@thcpills]

@@klein-concept Just my opinion... I'm a fan of the old school steel look - thin tubes, lugs, etc.