FIRST TIME HEARING The Smiths - How soon Is now REACTION

[@LearnToRefine]

The Smiths, Depeche Mode and The Cure all understood that every day can't be Disney movies and rainbows. Sometimes you need to express some dark emotions and angst. The Smiths: "There is a Light That Never Goes Out" "That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore"

[@petercourtien4581]

You tell ‘em! 🙌🏻🔥

[@MrFriiy]

Echo and the Bunnymen or Souixie and the Banshees.

[@pattyestrada6]

@harmonywisdom I love this.

[@Jabberwok28]

Killing Joke.

[@MrFriiy]

@@Jabberwok28 Yes, “Killing Joke”!

[@JoTracy]

Amber is so spot in in her understanding of the meaning of the lyrics being about crippling shyness. Brilliant 👏

[@NS-ie2ld]

Yes, she caught it right away. Very impressive!

[@boltfever16]

The Smiths are a deep rabbit hole. Amazing songs. Try This Charming Man or The Boy with the Thorn in side. the Waterboys are another great 80’s b And

[@NS-ie2ld]

The lead singer Morrisey also has an impressive list of solo songs particularly from the Viva Hate and Bona Drag albums

[@thomsevilla4956]

Amber gets it!

[@martinscott-reed5379]

Amber has a wonderful feeling for the interpretation of lyrics. That's not something that can be taught, that is purely down to understanding the human condition.

[@hellokimmy68]

I was 16 in 1984 when I saw this on MTV for the first time and I can say that it literally changed my life. Almost 40 years later and I don't think I'll ever get tired of this song. Depeche Mode, New Order, the Smiths, the Cure, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Echo and the Bunnymen....I would not be who I am today without these bands.

[@Laniefj]

In 1984 I gave birth to twins. Lol. I don't think I've ever heard this song. It's 100% 80's.

[@danomatthews7498]

Try Stop Me If You Think You’ve Heard This One Before, by The Smiths. That is my favorite by them.

[@hellokimmy68]

@@danomatthews7498 They have so many amazing songs. Shakespeare's Sister and Girl Afraid are two of my other favorites, but it's hard to choose. Pretty much all of Louder Than Bombs got me through college.

[@AB-MELB]

@@danomatthews7498 My fave too

[@Brianwright808]

I think you're about a year older than me, but I feel the same way. I played this for my daughter and she liked it. I still play the album, "The Queen Is Dead" all the time. Ahhh, the 80's. Magic.

[@carlburnett5986]

I don’t trust anyone who doesn’t like this record. It’s not just one of the best 80s songs, it’s one of the best of all time. Also listen to There is a light that never goes out, heaven knows I’m miserable now, William it was really nothing, this charming man, bigmouth strikes again, plus solo Morrissey, suedehead, every day is like Sunday

[@mccdiy6978]

Suedehead…SOOOO good!

[@kadenbeck1994]

Try the song...BIG MOUTH STRIKES AGAIN. I love it!!!

[@razberrysky12]

No, I totally understand Jay's reaction. His image of 80's is the amazing synth pop and the flashy colorful fashions that most people think of the 80's.. I was a teenager then, so I'm a big fan of a lot of Smith's songs. But for the first-time listener, this could sound a bit boring and drab!!!

[@graysonpitman8959]

Back to the old house

[@digger5521]

I remember playing everyday is like Sunday driving around and empty seaside town during covid... perfect

[@John-tr5hn]

The Smiths were definitely one of the most influential bands of the '80s. They form a holy trinity with the Cure and Depeche Mode.

[@autumnfairy15]

Yessss holy trinity!

[@aaronmartinez5029]

Siouxsie and the Banshees over Depeche Mode for me

[@SherlockHolmez]

What about Joy Division/New Order? Honestly, it’s more than a trinity

[@michellehabachi1863]

Yes!!! 💯

[@justinsossa2957]

Killing joke destroys all those groups

[@Xman156]

Guys, this is 80s post-punk music, an alternative rock form. It's a genre you haven't tapped into until now. It's an acquired taste, but I love it! There are tons of groups of this genre in the 80s. For a more upbeat sounding song in the genre, check out Lips Like Sugar by Echo and the Bunnymen. Also, listen to this song again but the longer version (available in lyrics only). Pretend you're in an 80s underground punk/goth club in NYC with music like this playing in an eerie smoked filled room. Submerge yourself in that environment, then you will appreciate it more!

[@mistymangham4410]

Post Punk is probably my favorite genre.. and you are right they need to dive heavily into Post Punk.

[@matthewhudson5685]

Don't forget "Killing Moon"!!

[@AB-MELB]

I just suggested Siouxsie and the Banshees, although I am not sure these guys are ready to go too alternative

[@rbash]

Well said, this is spot on. One of my most vivid 80s memories is dancing to this in a tiny SF club just off Broadway, strobe lights alternating with darkness, and that crazy sound like a car horn speeding past in the night. It was awesome and also a reaction to what felt at the time like the shallowness and softness of the 70s. I have a huge love for that music, too - but there was a whole range of emotions and experiences that disco, soft rock, and the rest of Top 40 radio never spoke to. It could be angry, dark, moody, weird, alienated, ironic, techo[phobic/philic], and more. For me, that's where a band like this comes in, or early Talking Heads, or the Elvis Costello/Joe Jackson/Graham Parker triumvirate, or smaller names like Jim Carroll Band or Romeo Void. Cars by Gary Newman, One of Our Submarines by Thomas Dolby. Or a ton of others we could all name. The 80's wasn't only bright colors and synthpop. Y'all who were there probably know what I mean.

[@philipb2378]

@@AB-MELB Actually, I think they would LOVE "Peek a Boo" especially if they could find the "Razormaid" 12 inch vinyl copy. I have it in near mint condition in my collection.

[@Cadinho93]

This song which guitarist Johnny Marr described as The Smiths "most enduring record" is about their frontman Morrissey's crippling shyness. It has since become an anthem for the alienated and socially isolated. Also, Johnny Marr is a stellar guitarist, textures and tones unlike any other player.

[@aimee_susan]

Johnny Marr is one of the most underrated guitar players ever.

[@b62boom1]

@@aimee_susan he's one of the reasons I learned to play and get in bands back in the 90's. I absolutely love his jangly style. Him and John Squire from the Stone Roses changed my life.

[@aimee_susan]

@@b62boom1 I love this! The Edge is up there for me too.

[@5yearsout]

Loved his work with Modest Mouse .

[@julien2231]

@@5yearsout i didnt know hw was with modest mouse but it explains their sound!

[@malkamusik]

This has such an iconic sound to it. It really was ahead of its time.

[@AB-MELB]

Just like Joy Division was something different that is still a classic today.

[@GB-ez6ge]

It still does but, of course, by now the queen really died

[@wegotlumpsofitroundtheback5065]

I'm 55, was a shy alienated teenager when I first heard The Smiths on college radio and this was the song that finally made me feel like I wasn't alone. Unlike all the CRAP on MTV, this band, along with VERY early REM made me feel like I had place in this world. First time I saw them live in 85 at the Boston Opera House I was shocked when I suddenly began crying as Morrisey took the stage.

[@Telegrm..Rob_Squad_Reactions0]

Great Fan 👍 Dm Me Got you something 🎁🎁....🏆

[@anenglishlife7210]

Have you seen Morrissey's recent performance at the Manchester O2 Arena? Bonfire of teenagers? ..I felt like crying..he's just The Man and still going strong...saying the unsayable in the midst of political correctness and just not giving a damn at all 😊😊

[@michellereed7303]

@@anenglishlife7210 RobertSmith is hitting me this way now...some amazing recent concerts they have up on youtube right now. Was never a big fan in the 80s...but man, he sounds so good...and authentic right now!

[@rullmourn1142]

This song - which guitarist, Johnny Marr, described as The Smiths' "most enduring record" - is about their frontman Morrissey's crippling shyness. It has since become an anthem for the alienated and socially isolated.

[@stefanovalenti5569]

The Smiths dealt a lot with how out of place you often feel when you're an adolescent. That really struck a chord with so many people.

[@louishegarty761]

"How soon is now" is one in million. Open your ears. Love you guys

[@gwencampbell4345]

If you were 16 and full of teenaged angst the Smiths and Morrissey's solo stuff was so very relatable

[@jeffmorse645]

Its relatable to a 23 year old in 1984 when I first heard them on their US debut album. It was a revelation. I felt like finally a band actually got me.

[@boltfever16]

“I am the son and the heir…of a shyness that is criminally vulgar” great lyrics

[@Eijianthony]

The Smiths got me through High school. Louder than Bombs - what a game changer. Morrissey, Marr, Rourke, Joyce, nuff said.

[@jonathanslyker2536]

I think you two may be a bit too happy for this type of music, but trust me, if you suffer from depression or anxiety it's a wonderful way to ease the pain. Sometimes you just need to hear that you're not alone. It's a great song and quite beautiful if only for that. However it's great musically and lyrically as well. You picked the right one, maybe just not what you needed at the moment.

[@tycoon7300]

Ha Ha....Great comment. :) They are too happy. So true.

[@2isceez]

The way he laughs when she mentions crippling shyness, they have no idea🤣

[@Oxley016]

I'd say This Charming Man, The Boy With The Thorn In His Side or There Is A Light That Never Goes Out would have been much better first listen/introductory songs for The Smiths even though I love this one as well.

[@spykatt]

@@2isceez True. Some people can not imagine being shy, while others of us know nothing but that.

[@Lee-bv6iv]

Jesus Christ, this is such a spot-on comment.

[@moononastick8628]

This is a total 80s anthem. The Smiths are the much edgier side of the 80s like The Cure, Depeche Mode, Joy Division etc. They were all ahead of their time and paved the way for the 90s guitar wave. The Smith’s most famous songs are probably This Charming Man and Bigmouth Strikes Again but their albums are iconic.

[@jeffpawlinski3210]

The look on Jay's face was priceless! I'd love to see Jay's reaction to "Girlfriend in a Coma" and "Hairdresser on Fire" The Smiths and their lead singer Morrissey's songs are moody and LEGENDARY!

[@peterandjunko]

Can’t wait for Morrisseys next album in 2023- “Bonfire of Teenagers”. Fits right in with those other titles you mentioned.

[@petercourtien4581]

If a double decker bus killed the both of us…🤣

[@jeffmorse645]

@@petercourtien4581 One of the most beautiful songs ever written. I'm serious.

[@AB-MELB]

I'd love to see Jay's face to Bauhaus or really depressing songs by The Cure off the Pornography or Faith album.

[@don-o-seven1437]

There are other Smiths song that I would have started with. This one is iconic Smiths but pretty dark even for them. They have a few more digestible songs from albums like Louder Than Bombs, but I would guess true Smiths fans may go the other way.

[@mysticmavens811]

I was a shy 15 year old when this song came out - it was my anthem. “You go and you stand on your own, and you leave on your own, and you go home and you cry and you want to die.” Who hasn’t felt like that at one point in their life? Morrissey was SO ahead of his time. It would be criminal if you didn’t explore the Smiths catalog. I am 51 and they remain my favorite band of all time. I would start with anything off the “Hatful of Hollow” album.

[@xoxxobob61]

This Song was the "ANGST" Anthem of the Youth in the 80's and is considered a Classic. If you grew up in the 80's you couldn't escape this song or it's meaning. It hit a nerve for many when it was released.

[@neilmorgan9254]

The smiths are probably the most interesting band of the 80s absolute genius , lots of modern bands mention them as influential they were unique

[@bobthebear1246]

Not only is "How Soon Is Now?" the best song The Smiths ever did, this is one of the greatest songs ever recorded in all of modern music history. This is literally one of my Top 50 favorite songs of all-time. This song is an entire vibe, and is vastly influential across several genres, especially Post-Punk, Alternative New Wave and Alternative Rock. I know you guys don't do any Wikipedia research - although you damn well should - but if you do any on this song, there is an entire Wikipedia article devoted to this song and how it was composed, written and recorded. When you read that, you will really appreciate "How Soon Is Now?" a lot more. The short version is how this song came about is nothing short of pure musical fucking genius. The Smiths may have only been around for 5 years and recorded 4 albums, but nearly all of those albums were rated very highly and the only one that wasn't was still rated well. They have been and remain an extremely influential band, and they will be remembered for generations to come.

[@jamiedianne6778]

LOVE The Smiths! You definitely need to hear There Is A Light That Never Goes Out! ❤

[@jeffmorse645]

Absolutely! I hope its the next one they do.

[@SuperDaveSo]

No matter what anyone says about Morrissey, he was literally the voice of a generation. So much melancholy in his voice. It's a pretty deep hole to go down to follow The Smiths, as well as his solo career.

[@AB-MELB]

It was very often The Smiths vs The Cure in forming a generation, but I think the latter. Nowadays, Morrissey whines in a much more negative way than he did in the 80s. He is pretty unbearable and horrible.

[@juantorres706]

The Smiths are one of the most influential bands of all time, Marr and Morrissey are a legendary song writing duo…this song has often been referred to as the “Stairway to Heaven” of the 80’s

[@kirkhall2099]

I like this song. But saying its the Stairway To Heaven of the 80s. Is putting down the 80s. Much better songs in the 80s

[@Tinarita]

Excellent commentary. So very true. I was one who loved it all and had friends from all groups and hung out with many types. It was weird being me because I was accepted by everyone but had no idea who I was…I was a little bit of everyone. I still am. And like you, I still enjoy this music and it feels so relevant, still.

[@oltyret]

A Manchester band which was ground zero for post-punk. Post punk was all about despair. Morrissey, the vocalist, sings about angst a lot and Johnny Marr, the guitarist, is the master of atmospheric guitar riffs. I know, Morrissey and The Smiths is usually an acquired taste.

[@elsienisonen8925]

The 80s were definitely not all sunshine and light. Those were heavy times growing up. The Smiths voiced part of what we felt.

[@spectreharlequin]

The Smiths are one of those very influential bands like The Pixies. The next song by The Smith should definitely be "There is a light that never goes out"

[@Happyheretic2308]

Last Night I Dreamed …

[@risenfromthepyre]

Knowing Morrisey it would be the light that never goes out..'"oh no it's only a train coming towards me and I'm stuck on the tracks aagain...lalalala"....actually I hope by now he's gotten some good meds..

[@ParagonRex]

Jack the Ripper

[@fotoviano]

if Rob did an eyebrow raise on these lyrics ...

[@erikvanhespen3464]

Exactly. Goodness knows if he listened to Asleep, TIALTNGO, PPLMLMGWIW, and holy crap Meat is Murder. I fear it would not go well. :)

[@roberthammer704]

When Amber said she thought it sounded like they were trying to portray shyness through the music, I couldn't believe it. I was in my early 20s when this song came out and it immediately struck a chord deep within me -- and not just because the lyrics seemed to have been pulled from my own awkward experiences. Many times have I told people that this song sounds like my insides feel, not really expecting them to understand but knowing that it's nevertheless true. What I would not find out until many years later is that I am autistic (at the high-functioning end of the spectrum) and the "cripling shyness" I have suffered is actually a genuine social disability. I'm glad the song did not resonate with Jay -- that tells me he is neurotypical and (happily) socially adept (as if I couldn't already tell). I am also glad that Amber caught the deeper meaning so easily -- that tells me she is remarkably intuitive and empathetic. And I am so very happy that you reacted to this song. Thank you!

[@andrewpetik2034]

I could not agree with your comments more! This song...the lyrics....the melody....the instrumentation is haunting.....it paints the picture of shyness....if shyness can be described musically.

[@jay-bt2lu]

well said. i remember when this came out in the mid 80s not everyone got it. if we compare it to 'the breakfast club' its ally sheedy (allisons) character. being isolated and considered a freak but ultimately just wanting to find acceptance.

[@richardsands]

One of my favourite songs, though the 12" version is so much better! I finally got an autism diagnosis earlier this year, and I bumbled through life not understanding why I didn't fit in, with people telling me I was weird, and half the time I couldn't even understand why... So I understand and agree with you.

[@Johnny_Socko]

Amber NAILED it right away, I'm so proud of her, lol. Also, I've gotten so used to the 12" version that I forgot this shorter edit existed!

[@goblinqueen4991]

I can empathize. People always told me to "get over (my) shyness" and it turns out I have social anxiety disorder (among other things). Not something you just get over.

[@debbiewashabaugh9891]

Some of the lyrics: I am the son And the heir Of a shyness that is criminally vulgar I am the son and heir Of nothing in particular You shut your mouth How can you say I go about things the wrong way? I am human and I need to be loved Just like everybody else does There's a club if you'd like to go You could meet somebody who really loves you So you go and you stand on your own And you leave on your own And you go home and you cry And you want to die When you say it's gonna happen now When exactly do you mean? See I've already waited too long And all my hope is gone You shut your mouth How can you say I go about things the wrong way? I am human and I need to be loved Just like everybody else does

[@petercourtien4581]

I thought it was “sun and air” until I figured out the meaning years ago. I bet a lot of people thought that and many still do.😂

[@debbiewashabaugh9891]

@@petercourtien4581 I agree. I thought so too because they used this song as the intro for “Charmed” and having something elemental seemed to fit.

[@michaelhawkins7389]

@@debbiewashabaugh9891 the song that was used for charmed was a cover song , :) but not the smiths version

[@debbiewashabaugh9891]

@@michaelhawkins7389 got it. I knew it was the same song but that it sounded different. I just thought that was changed for the show. Thanks for letting me know.

[@michaelhawkins7389]

@@debbiewashabaugh9891 :)

[@royevetts4900]

The Manchester sound. This band was at the forefront of the Acid House Movement started at the Hacienda nightclub, Factory 51 a club owned by a record label and band New Order(Blue Monday) that started a dance movement and what led to the current rave scene and dj's playing at raves across the world. This track was used on Charmed, the witchy series.

[@jvb0804]

This is the song Buffalo Bill was listening to in The Silence of the Lambs-the producer or director or whoever picked up on the dark creepy vibes, too.

[@davidmoore7687]

Charmed theme

[@quinny6920]

I love these lyrics for some reason. Maybe it can apply to many. Love each other and STOP judging each other. Color, race, religion, sexuality, an addict, an alcoholic …. They all deserve love and to not be judged. Thx guys. Much love as always!!!❤

[@bethcushway458]

Certainly doesn't apply to Morrissey though. He's a racist pig

[@toddthompson7478]

This version lacked the final verse: “When you say it’s going to happen now, When exactly do you mean? See I’ve already waited too long And all my hope is gone” Great song and reaction video.

[@leedsdevil]

Exactly - leaves out the verse that is the answer to the title question 'How Soon Is Now?' Doesn't matter, it's already too late. I will reiterate the multitude of other comments and suggest 'There Is A Light That Never Goes Out' as another exploration into The Smiths.

[@ArthurRChan]

I love the Smiths! They're one of my favorite '80s bands. My favorite album of theirs is The Queen Is Dead. From it, I'd recommend: "There Is a Light That Never Goes Out", "The Boy With a Thorn In His Side" and "Cemetry Gates." And from singer Morrissey's solo career: "Everyday Is Like Sunday."

[@annesmith2259]

All great choices

[@maureenlyons-brennan1146]

This song got everyone on the dance floor. Johnny Marr is a genius. Manchester produced the best music.

[@BCTMarcus]

Even though it was a tribute to another band, I always think that The Wombats entirely grabbed the mood when they sang "Let's dance to Joy Division and celebrate the irony: everything is going wrong but we're so happy!"'😀

[@ColHambone]

Before the label Alternative, which was this collective term used to figure out how to file it in a CD/record store that could encompass Nirvana, Primus, or Ani DeFranco. Ditto for Indie. The reality is it isn't describing a sound. It's describing a business model. Prior to the Alternative explosion all those disparate sounds were labeled College Rock since that was the reliable touring circuit and those were the radio stations where that stuff would get play. The classic College Rock band that made big before "Alternative" was a thing is REM.

[@jeffallard3221]

Hi guys, long time watcher, first time commenter. I just had to chime in and say that this was one of my favorite reactions just for the different ways that this song hit the two of you. First, as others have said, this song is TOTALLY an '80s song, absolutely iconic to anyone who lived through the era. But that said, The Smiths were never for everyone and J's reaction was not uncommon for people at the time. As opposed to the brighter pop music of the '80s or the party vibes of the hair metal bands, The Smiths represented something darker. As part of the post punk Goth movement, The Smiths offered music for introverts. The "creepy" feel you picked up on was very much a part of their appeal in that it was music that wasn't mainstream and there was a darker sensibility to it that alienated people who preferred sunnier vibes. Amber nailed it in her analysis that this particular song is about shyness and how some people are trapped in the isolation of their social awkwardness. That's definitely a message that Smith fans were able to relate to and it was part of what made their music special to a generation of outcast teens and 20 somethings who felt like they didn't quite fit in. This will probably not be a band that J connects to (not every band is for everyone!) but I think Amber would dig diving deeper into their catalog.

[@kdmathesen]

Well said!

[@rachellara4661]

Perfectly said!

[@jco207]

👏👏👏

[@vincenzafoflietta3210]

100%! Love the Smiths!

[@richardkralick3062]

Until today, I would have agreed that this is about shyness, but listening to it today, I get some really serious incel vibes from this song. Granted, this may be coloured by Morressey's politics, but I was cringing listening to him talk about these feelings.

[@nathanclarke2777]

The Smiths are in the same stable as the Cure and Depeche Mode! They are really good and have some great songs like Everyday is Like Sunday! Go a do a little fishing and you'll find stuff you love!

[@thekenzosh]

This was one jammin beat. People were dancing to this in the NYC clubs. This song defined that era.

[@dylanjhirad4595]

Classic of the era, right from the get go with the wordplay of “I am the sun and the air” (i.e. “the son and the heir” … of nothing in particular). “With a shyness that is criminally vulgar” is Morrissey’s empassioned cry for understanding as a young gay man. If you want a less dark/edgy, more melodic Smiths classic … I would highly recommend the short and lovely “Girlfriend in a Coma” (I know, the title belies it, but it’s an absolutely beautiful song!)

[@bigdream_dreambig]

A cover of this was used as the theme song for the original version of the T.V. show Charmed (1998-2006). (I don't know what they used for the 2008 reboot.)

[@pattyestrada6]

The Smiths are great! One of the best known English bands of the 80’s. To me this is quintessential 80’s. The Smiths made music for those who didn’t always feel like they fit in. Morrisey’s lyrics were filled with so many feelings, you then add Jonny Marr on guitar and it’s just great music. I don’t think you started with the wrong song, “How Soon is Now?” is one of their best and most popular songs. Even if you listen to another song that is more “upbeat”, you’re still going to get that moody undertone, that’s just who they are. I appreciate how Amber instantly recognizes that there is deeper meaning in the lyrics. Jordan this probably is just a band you’re not really going to like, which is ok. Sonically and lyrically they’re just probably not going to be your thing. You’re also right in that the 80’s had a darker side, and not everything sounded like Wham lol. But if you’re open to listening to more here are some suggestions “There Is A Light And It Never Goes Out” “This Charming Man” “Heaven Knows I’m Miserable Now” “Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want”. You should also check out Morrisey’s “Suedehead” (also 80’s) he’s the lead singer of The Smiths

[@richarddennis4785]

I hesitated to recommend other songs. If you like any of The Smiths hits, you probably like a lot of their songs. If you don’t, you probably won’t like any of their songs. Even though Jay has a fantastic appreciation for many styles of music, I had a feeling he wouldn’t care for The Smiths and as you said, that’s okay.

[@Islendingar]

I’d agree to those selections and add Sheila Takes A Bow too …. My fave song but wonderful songs and the Morrissey selection is perfect too !! WOW !! 🤘🤘🐾👏👏❤️❤️❤️❤️🎼🎷🎵🎶♾🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@fleurdelis2976]

“I am human and I need to be loved, just like everybody else does.” So basic but also so profound. I love the Smiths and also Morrissey in his solo career. You’ll either love them or hate them but their contribution to the music industry can’t be disputed. Morrissey sings the things we all feel but won’t say aloud and in doing that it always makes you feel better. Whenever I’m sad, I immerse myself in their music and I always come out on the other end feeling like I had a really good therapy session. There will never be another band like them. Morrissey is a lyrical genius and Johnny Marr is a brilliant guitarist.

[@anenglishlife7210]

You put it perfectly

[@michelleboyer9506]

The Smiths are so 80’s. I became a teenager in the 80’s. Graduated from high school in 87. So alternative music was a big thing for us. Soft Cell Tainted Love was big and Sisters of Mercy. The Cure ruled along with Siouxsie and the Bandshees, Depeche Mode, New Order, Pixies, Violent Femmes, Echo & The Bunnyman, Joy Division.

[@AB-MELB]

The Sisters of Mercy would be a cracking band for them to try but, again, so different to what these guys are used to. Going down the goth path would sure bring up a lot of amazing facial expressions to see 😄 Perhaps Temple of Love (feat. ofra haza) might be a winner. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnyagoBreJyjeLc

[@jco207]

Hi Michelle. I love that you suggested Siouxsie and the Bandshees. What song do you think would be good to start with? Cities in Dust?

[@michelleboyer9506]

@@jco207 I think Israel or Hong Kong Garden

[@joaquimmarques4026]

The Cure was the opposite, sad music/happy lyrics...

[@DPRyan-vd5pp]

My sister was class of 87….me, class of 1992…hated her music, new wave lol. It’s ok now that I’m older but only for nostalgia lol I’m a hardcore 90’s grunge alternative metal guy forever!

[@GodLovesComics]

This is the most legendary Smiths song in the entire catalog and guitar lovers still worship that riff. So if you didn't like this one then it might be hopeless. But I'd recommend "Stop Me If You Think That You've Heard this One Before" which is much um, more spritely, and has incredible lyrics. Probably my favorite of all Smiths songs.

[@VoodooSage]

One way to understand the Smiths is to listen to people mocking them (or in the case of this suggestion, mocking their frontman). Check out "Getting Away With It" by Electronic. Electronic includes Johnny Marr (from the Smiths), Bernard Sumner (from New Order) and on this track also includes both Pet Shop Boys (Neil Tennant and Chris Lowe). I am a huge fan of snark in music and Getting Away With It doesn't disappoint.

[@kenreeve32]

The #1 dance song in the clubs for us alternative music/goth kids back in the day!

[@corygraves4351]

Oh, we're STILL dancing to it in the club in 2022!

[@JeffSelf]

I graduated high school in 1985. The Smiths, REM, U2 and the Cure were on my everyday rotation at the time. They have another song that’s a bit more upbeat that I think Jay would like. “Stop me if you think you’ve heard this one before”

[@michaelakkerman407]

Class of 85 no jive! As I also graduated in 85 I also recommend the same song due to its more pop sound. It's one of those if you weren't there you might not understand it. I wish they would try bands like Hoodoo Gurus, The Smithereens, The Fixx or Oingo Boingo. Some deeper dive bands...that are getting left out for the more super pop bands.

[@leymj]

One of the greatest songs of all time. The Smiths are known for their upbeat music with depressing somber lyrics.

[@davidalcala5249]

The Smiths were a HUGE alternative band in the 80’s! Very influential band. Not a main stream band in the US but if you knew about them, you were COOL and in the know.

[@Telegrm..Rob_Squad_Reactions0]

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[@mplslawnguy3389]

These guys influenced so many 90’s bands, which is why they honestly sound like they’re from the 90’s.

[@GoWestYoungMan]

The Smiths were hugely popular with people in the 1980s alternative rock scene: people who didn't fit the mold, were into the arts, underground music, wore black, etc. A lot of it was a little dark or bleak but that was part of why it connected with that subset of people. I know you watched the film 'Breakfast Club'. Ally Sheedy who played 'the basket case' would have listened to The Smiths.

[@lynnhettrick7588]

Yes, exactly. Ally Sheedy’s character definitely would’ve listened to The Smiths and The Cure.

[@sKennTX]

This was a pre-internet era and music was very separated. There's a lot of songs people associate with the 80s because they were on the radio and in films . Then there was college radio which had a different vibe and became known as "alternative" music (aka alternative to mainstream radio). And then there were songs you would hear in the clubs. This was definitely a club and alternative radio hit.

[@dudeusmaximus6793]

Nailed it!

[@BGNOLA]

Yeah, there's a lot of revisionism about the 80s that only spotlights the Top 40 stuff

[@landisix9709]

Guys I’ve said this before.. you’ve barley scratched the surface when it comes to the 80s. Keep it going 👏

[@petercourtien4581]

I was thinking the same thing. Where have they gotten deep into the 80s? Not even close!

[@nycdedmonds]

Just so y'all know this is very 80s. There were many 80s sounds and this is one of the quintessential ones (and one of the most influential). Not everyone's cup of tea, but to those of us who were outsiders in high school in the 80s, this was our music. It spoke to our souls.

[@midgenobby]

You need to hear the FULL version to appreciate this wonderful song. Its really quite different from their other catchy short songs.. So many to chose from... Please dig dipper into this unique group. 🙏

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[@anjiharrell6175]

This is one of the most hypnotic songs ever for me. I could listen to this song over and over until I fall asleep.

[@Shrykespeare]

There are few voices as unique in music history as Morrissey, which is like butter on velvet, and I'm so glad you finally got to hear it. The Smiths are one of the best alternative bands in HISTORY, right up there with Depeche Mode and The Cure. Their guitarist, Johnny Marr, is an icon as well. It's so tough to recommend a handful of Smiths songs, but my personal favorites are "Bigmouth Strikes Again" and "Girlfriend in a Coma". Morrissey also had a ton of tremendous solo hits, including "Every Day is Like Sunday", "Ouija Board, Ouija Board", and "The Last of the Famous International Playboys". (Yes, like Meat Loaf, they loved long song titles.) 😁

[@peachteatina]

I agree they should listen to Morriessy’s The Last of the Famous International Playboys

[@Jessica_Roth]

Short version: British 1980s is different from American 1980s. Yes, the music was more electronic, but it wasn't used for endless dance grooves. You had some dark stuff going on. (also remember, Robert Smith is NOT one of The Smiths. He's the singer for The Cure. This is Morrissey.) A touch surprised you haven't heard this song; a cover version was the theme song for the original "Charmed" TV show. So you could have bumped into it flipping channels any time since 1999… Next should definitely be "Asleep". That'll put a smile on Jay's face, FOR SURE! (Ye gods, I'm evil tonight. lol.)

[@Tinarita]

Rob’s reaction is a perfect illustration of the music of the eighties. It divided us into groups…the metal heads, the goths, the punkers, the mods, the rockabilly’s, the top 40 crowd (normies) and New Romantics. Maybe I’ve missed a couple but you could tell us by the way we dressed. Rob likes 80’s but probably isn’t sure what to think about the goth side of it all. They were the most different looking than the rest of us. People were freaked out by their look and their music was a lot about feeling like outcasts in the vanilla world of the 80’s. You can liken their movement to the Emo crowd of the late 90’s and Y2K era. Music still divides us but channels line this unite us, and I love knowing this. 🎭

[@greghackenberg1209]

I was a bit of weird one, I like just about all of it (except hair metal) and had a friend or two in just about every group. Funny how nobody really romanticizes 80's top 40, but the (small a) alternative bands. Yes, everyone was listening to them, too.

[@bethtanner4481]

Nice analysis @tinamccay!!

[@Calmontheoutside]

Great analysis!

[@OnlyGoodMusic_]

@@greghackenberg1209 Morrissey, between The Smiths and his solo career, has had 51 hits in the UK top 40. Include this masterpiece.

[@nocarbonfootprint9120]

Hanging out in clubs in the mid 80s, this was one i liked to dance to even though I wasn't much of a dancer. I've played it since, it actually has a nice Bo Diddley beat

[@amichelle337]

There's definitely a whole different side to the 80s than the pop and rock y'all have mostly delved into. Post-punk and new wave/dark wave has a whole different feel to it and will help round out what you think of when you think of the 80s! The Smiths were incredibly unique, and they're very difficult to explain. This is my favorite Smiths song, but other people have suggested some wonderful songs of theirs for you guys to listen to. Some other suggestions if you wanna get into the more alternative side of the 80s: 1. Psychedelic Furs - Love My Way (nostalgic and achy) 2. Echo and the Bunnymen - The Killing Moon (eerie and full of longing) 3. The Church - Under the Milky Way (dreamy melancholy) 4. Siouxsie and the Banshees - Spellbound (witchy and sharp) 5. The Cure - Just Like Heaven (enthralled and euphoric) 6. The Cure - Lovesong (the purest love song ever written) 7. The Jesus and Mary Chain - Just Like Honey (soft and warm) 8. New Order - Blue Monday (an angsty dance bop) 9. Joy Division - Love Will Tear Us Apart (the most heartbreaking song by a very fragile man)

[@kellylacroix1458]

Finally! While definitely not their best song, it's definitely their most well-known. Be sure to check out This Charming Man or Bigmouth Strikes Again

[@jimmyjames6267]

One of the best 80s songs, i have it on a 12inc single

[@targhee159]

Huge fan of The Smiths. Part of the attraction for me is the contrast of Morrissey’s melancholy lyrics with Johnny Marr’s upbeat melodies. Songs like “Girlfriend in a Coma” or “The Headmaster Ritual” come to mind. “The Boy With The Thorn In His Side” is a personal favorite.

[@mccdiy6978]

Boy with the Thorn in His Side = BEST guitar sound ever!!!

[@snailysnail0]

"Girlfriend in a Coma" is maybe the best example ever of a pretty melody about a dark subject.

[@richardc8795]

What you’re about to hear Amber… is the theme from the 90’s hit show Charmed 😉 In the 80’s, people kept telling me i looked like Morrissey…. I was rocking a flat top and very long side burns 😆

[@eximusic]

If you were hip in the 80s, this was the band you were listening to. Both The Smiths, from Britain, and REM, from the US, were guitar based bands that went against the trends of the time. The Smiths lead singer was Morrissey who eventually went solo and still has a huge cult following to this day. The other creative force in The Smiths was the guitarist/songwriter, Johnny Marr. He went on to many other projects including playing on a couple of albums with the 00s indie band Modest Mouse. Morrissey's lyrics are the best, and often have some dark humor and insults ala Oscar Wilde. This song was an anthem for an entire generational subculture. If you didn't like this song, some consider it their best, so not sure you're going to "get" them. Of course it's not The Smiths that are on trial here.

[@RickTBL]

This is the one. As someone who lived through it, this is what the 80's sound like to me.

[@allieren]

I’m one of the people who suggested this song 🙋🏼‍♀️ I freaking love The Smiths and especially this song. They sound 80s to me, but there’s definitely a difference between 80s Top 40 type music that I think Jay likes, and 80s indie, punk, and new wave music which these guys are. I feel like the 80s punk, post-punk, goth, and new wave scene were to 80s teens what grunge (and riot grrrl, and punk) were to us 90s teens. And Morrissey’s lyrics are always strong. Morrissey has since become controversial-he keeps saying things publicly that reallyyyy make him sound like a bigot-but the vibes of The Smiths as a whole are impeccable

[@marksumner9948]

Read an interview with Morrissey where he said"the right has become the left and the left has become the right" I think he nailed it!

[@Dan-kc3jy]

To be fair its not until i watch 2 Americans try to 'get' The Smiths using this song as entry that you see the genius of this tune. props to you guys, subscriber and fan. love watching you wrestle with new tunes :) Amber BYT is the GOAT reactor!

[@nanastan9]

#4 in my top 10 all time favorite songs. Maaaaaany, many hours spent dancing to this in the dark confines of The City Club in downtown Detroit in the 80s.

[@andrewpetik2034]

This song...the lyrics....the melody....the instrumentation is haunting.....it paints the picture of shyness....if shyness can be described musically. It is hard to explain, but this song SOUNDED the way I felt inside .....as a shy person who struggled to get through high school

[@Civil_War_Now]

The Smiths may be the Gods of 80s Alternative Rock. The guitarist Johhny Marr is one of the most innovative rock guitarists to live. You're missing a lot of what he is doing. The layered guitar sounds and how difficult it was to get them. Just listen closely. There are so many cool parts buried underneath. They sold a ton of records in the UK and Europe and had a huge cult following here in the States. For the video they actually got a good budget but they decided to use a film student from NYU to write and direct it. Very cool. If you don't have an ear for it you're not going to like it. But I salute you for getting it out there. "There's a club if you'd like to go. You might meet someone who really loves you. So you go ... and you stand on your own ... and you leave on your own ... and you go home ... and you cry ... and you want to die." Amber gets it. LISTEN TO "BIG MOUTH STRIKES AGAIN" -- THAT MIGHT MAKE YOU HAPPY

[@superultradan]

Yes, The Smiths!! They were definitely ahead of their time. It's poetry set to music.

[@michaelevans5460]

What you need to consider is that this was recorded before modern gear. The sound was created the hard way, with old-school tape recording. The sound was fresh and new. This is not one of their catchy songs. Listen to "This Charming Man" or "Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now" for a more "pop" type song. The recipe for The Smiths is Johnny Marr's very unique guitar style and Morrisssey's poetic, funny and sometimes abrasive lyrics combined with a tight rhythm section. They were very unique and only lasted a short time before imploding. Morrissey has had a very solid solo career after The Smiths. For that, an accessible song is "The More You Ignore Me, The Closer I get."

[@MrBeezyb88]

This Charming Man, Half A Person and There Is A Light That Never Goes Out are bangers too

[@pernillemlbach4056]

The Smiths and singer Morrissey are legends and this is English national treasure, you touched on here. Although they became a very popular alternative pop/rock band in the US - and here in Denmark, where I am situated, as well. So its actually about to time you reacted to them😉Their sound is instantly recognizable due to Johnny Marrs hunting and beautiful guitar and Morrisseys unique voice. They became incredibly influential and indie darlings, and Morrissey went solo and made a bunch of great albums as well❤ I have loved The Smiths and The Cure for many years, for me its just a weird combination of angst-driven lyrics and beautiful uplifting melodies, that makes you want to dance - and it puts a smile on your face! One of my favorite Smiths songs is This Charming Man, which to me embodies what I am talking about, and I seriously recommend you reacting to this one.❤ Morrissey solo, you cannot miss Everyday is like Sunday, which was very popular and the song is just beautiful and easy to listen to, a great way to start your Morrissey reactions😘❤

[@surlechapeau]

Jay & Amber, you'll love their "This Charming Man"!!

[@Julieroo28]

Agreed!

[@mjoakes21]

This song is hypnotic, definitely a favorite.

[@rburn6677]

That was not the full version of the song. I can still relate to this song... even at the age of 63. Johnny Marr wrote the song and Morrissey was the lead singer until he went solo.

[@dalenihiser7766]

This was a college radio staple. I was a DJ back then and this tune was in heavy rotation. After about the 1000th play through I wanted to go home and cry. College radio broke bands like U-2, INXS, Oingo Boingo and R.E.M.

[@iliketostayhome]

Oh hell yeah. Didn't expect to hear The Smiths on this channel.

[@aimee_susan]

The Smiths play a huge part in the soundtrack of my life. They, along with the Cure, Siouxie and the Banshees, Bauhaus, and a handful of other bands introduced the world to what would eventually be known as goth, but we really didn’t have a name for it then. It was dark and moody with some of the greatest pop hooks ever. A lot of Smiths songs are about loneliness, which in a weird way made me feel less lonely. And they are a great band to dance to. I suggest This Charming Man or Bigmouth Strikes Again for something fun, and There Is a Light That Never Goes out, which is one of the oddest yet most touching love songs ever.

[@gaetagirl]

Girlfriend in a coma would have been a blast…

[@AB-MELB]

Not sure Jay and Amber are ready for Bauhaus haha..I would LOVE to see them react to one of their songs..hmm.. but which one? One with Peter M with his butt cheeks out I reckon.

[@lynnhettrick7588]

Starting in ‘85 to ‘88 and later, I started on the path of Depeche to The Cure to New Order to The Smiths to Bauhaus and Joy Division, Love & Rockets, and a few others. We called it post-punk. Later, it was known as goth.

[@jonathangilbert2456]

Can't do the 80s without The Smiths. Great overall band with Morrissey, the melancholy poet and Johnny Marr, a great underrated guitarist. The Smiths impacted everyone when it came out because it was saying what many felt inside but never spoke. A lot of the deep cut 80s songs are best understood by those that were around at the time and enjoyed the tunes as they were released. I was a huge fan of The Smiths from hearing the first track on the debut album.

[@roscoepcoaltrain1513]

I'm an old skater/surfer from Dago and I can still remember when I first heard The Smiths. I was in 10th grade so that would've been like 1987. I fing loved them! To this day I still love them. The lead singer is morrissey and he left the band at some point. I don't really like much of his music without the Smiths. My favorite song by them is Please Please Please let me get what I want.

[@10thdoctor15]

In 1995, Psychedelic Furs splinter group Love Spit Love was approached by the music supervisor of the movie The Craft, who inquired if the band might record a cover of this song. After initial reluctance, the band recorded the song, and it was released as a single from the movie's soundtrack in 1996. It became popular after it was used as the theme song for the TV series Charmed.

[@j.frankparnell]

I agree with others. This was part of the postpunk movement where rock and roll was broken into many subgenres. This is emo/goth. Like any era not all music was radio pop. That is what i believe your thinking of when you think of the 80s. There was so much more that was only on college stations at the time

[@iliketostayhome]

"Panic" is a much more Pop song. "Girlfriend in a coma" is a fun one. "Stop me if you think that you've heard this one before" is maybe my favorite.

[@dovoppenheim3106]

You started with the best Smiths song! the dark 80's for those who grow up at the time was a life changing experience together with DM. Try next "girlfriend in a coma". Regards from Israel

[@joelhahn2501]

This is _exactly_ the right song to start with. It perfectly embodies the alienation felt when you're an 80s teenager who isn't like those teens you see in the bubblegum pop music videos, isn't in with the "popular" crowd in school, and have too much crippling anxiety to speak up. This, The Cure, Depeche Mode, New Order, The Church, Echo and the Bunnymen... that was the core sound around which the "emo/goth" portion of the "alternative" music scene grew when "alternative" went mainstream in the mid to late 80s and early 90s.

[@Miked673]

I have been watching your reaction videos for quite some time, and It has been great watching you both grow during your music journey. It sometimes reminds me of my first reactions upon hearing specific songs for the first time. As my 50th year on this little blue dot looms, it is this era of music I am always drawn back to. 80's Punk, Alt, New Wave, Industrial, and Goth, I consumed it all with glee. As such, I have noticed, of late, there has been less reactions within these genre's. So now and again I will throw something out there to recommend within that group of, at the time, underground greats. Be warned, some recommendations may sound super weird but the journey will be so amazing. Also, some of it might bleed into the early '90's as well. The recommendations below are vastly different, however, they also show the great variety of the era. Siouxsie and the Banshees - Isreal or Arabian Nights Hilt - Superhoney MC 900FT. Jesus - The City Sleeps The Jesus and Mary Chain - Happy When It Rains Take care! You two are the BEST!!

[@rwschumm]

I like this song VERY much, since I am a big fan of 'alternative' type music. I think it is a bit more Dark expression of Human emotions. I've heard some people say they'd vote THIS song as one of the best songs of the past few Decades! Appreciate the Reaction Guys!

[@Coldwarrior7781]

If you were popular in school, outgoing, included and whatnot you won't have understood this song. If you were shy, isolated, an outlier....you would get it completely. Lyrics nonwithstanding, the music itself was ahead of it's time. The first time I heard it I was in a loud environment and couldn't hear the lyrics but the music electrified me viscerally.

[@BCTMarcus]

But even the popular ones could feel lonely... inside. I knew a few who loved this band, including the lyrics.

[@roncarnes5724]

The sound is "Mad-chester": the American term for bands from the Manchester, UK scene in the late '80s /early '90s. Madchester bands included the Happy Mondays, Joy Division/New Order, Charlatans UK, among others.

[@BCTMarcus]

Let's go to The Factory then, or the Hacienda. 😉

[@steverino015]

One of the great songs of the 80's They expressed the feelings of people that are in a not happy place..... I agree with comments that the Smiths, The Cure and Depeche Mode are all great, and they connected with a vast audience...... great song

[@pattygrace6429]

I remember in the 80s having debates over who is more depressed, Morrissey, or Robert Smith. This is the other side of the decade, and is absolutely Gen X angst.

[@gperch]

I love how Jay stands by his guns and doesn't pretend to like something for the sake of the channel (unlike other channels I've seen). Before I watched the video I was thinking - if you actually like The Smiths you might appreciate Radiohead's "Creep" if you revisited it. Maybe your taste in music has broadened enough, with all the songs you've listened to since then that you might appreciate a different Radiohead song (The Bends is an incredible album). Then again, maybe you'll just find them depressing...! I think these sort of songs really reflect how people feel sometimes and it can be cathartic to pour petrol on the fire; wallow in it, acknowledge those feelings knowing that you're not alone, than to chuck a bucket of water on it by listening to something happy and shallow. Maybe it's a British thing. In the end you had a similar reaction to "How Soon Is Now", so perhaps not :D There was a lot of this sort of angsty ("dreary" as a friend calls it!) music in the 90s, I think The Smiths were ahead of the curve in the 80s, along with The Stone Roses. The Smiths "Please, Please, Please, Let Me Get What I Want" is probably my favourite (and bonus, it's only 1m52s, so if you don't like it...!). The Dream Academy also did a really nice version, an instrumental of which was used in Ferris Bueller's Day Off (in the art gallery).

[@controlZchannel]

I believe due to the early channel reactions you got the impression that all 80s songs were loud party music, so when you hear something different it causes confusion.

[@Skeezer66]

This is not the usual 80's sound you know, but SUCH an important, influential one! If you can imagine party music for painfully shy people, this is it! LOL!! The Smiths, The Cure, and a few others made music that spoke to people outside of the popular groups. If you have watched The Breakfast Club, Ally Sheedy's character would LOVE this!

[@martinobrien6737]

Guys you have finally discovered one of the must important bands to come out of the 80s they had a short career by many standards but the songs are timeless such a great band important to so many people in so many ways

[@philhardy1179]

( Heaven Know`s I`m Miserable Now ) Is another classic by The Smiths, It`s a bit more of a pop song but it will show you haw diverse they were as a band also