India Stops Short of Legalising Same-Sex Marriage | Vantage with Palki Sharma

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[@thenextthor]

US gave over publicity and Corporate well branding to these immoral LGBTQREPXY creatures...now US economy is suffering due to these creepy crawlies. In 2035 there won't be a man or woman in US...in that level US is going.

[@shinwari7423]

Hello Palki Sharma! You are siding with Israel too much all the time! WHY do you not give enough coverage to Gaza and Palestine???? You are an Indian and in India there are over 200 million Muslims! How many millions of Jews do you have in India?? Maybe zero million! Why support Israel to this level? Why do you not broadcast Israeli war crimes in Gaza and Palestine??? I am an Afghan and we love and sympathise with Palestinians, Gaza and we condemn the Israeli war crimes against Muslim Palestinians! Our Afghans' and India's relation will make and break on the issue of Palestine, Muslim and Israel support! Do NOT confuse Palestine with Pakistan!

[@that_dam_baka]

This is literally what J Sai Deepak said. It's not within the court's power. If you can't have UCC or gender neutral laws, you can't give rights to LGBT community.

[@john_____]

#Firstpost 0:53 😂 Dude this is british invention of kandy this is a sri lankan photo image not india just stop Stealing other people's identity 😂😁👿 Your channel is so much fake

[@sonia_shah]

There is no way 53% of the Indian population supports LGBTQ+.... the survey was definitely conducted in a metro or suburban areas that are generally more supportive of it. A survey across all of India including the metropolitan cities to small towns in Gujarat and Tamil Nadu to remote villages of Bihar and Uttarkhand needs to be taken into consideration, if so the support is def well below 53%.

[@sureshbabusekharan7093]

The point is not the percentage as hetroes can't accept the minority.

[@Karmaall]

When survey conducted I'm 100% sure people thought LGTV not LGBTQ 😂 This is India we have culture

[@orientalguy9462]

That's not the point, the point is hinduism doesn't restrict same sex relationships or marriages, so we hindus should allow it, but in @br@hamic faiths it's not allowed so I can't say for them but I think they should also be open to changes.

[@neerajrawat8214]

​@@orientalguy9462true Hinduism doesn't restrict and LGBTQ are considered auspicious and their blessings ka considered equal to god, Hinduism allow marriage based on janam patri(if they match) and also varna system other than that no matter either u are human or animal😅😅

[@sonia_shah]

@@orientalguy9462 why are you scared of say abrahamic religions? just say it LOL. And yes Hinduism doesn't restrict it , but that also doesn't mean it should be legalized, just take a look at the US, Canada & Europe right now saying a Man is a Man and a Woman is a Woman is like almost a crime 🤣....and this is the step where it all begins.

[@sudarshan7111]

People here are doubting on the survey results but overall India is really relatively in a state of "do whatever you like, don't bother me and do anything stupid..."

[@CorryGal]

Do not cause trouble by doubting the survey results.

[@mangopudding5979]

Almost all Indians are against LGBTQ. So stop your lies.

[@sagnikasen2004]

Hmm...I agree.

[@goaboi]

If only they criminalize fake dowry and rape cases

[@sudhakar7889]

You can't criminalise them. But don't they have punishment for them if proved to be fake?

[@rickycool6083]

No, they don't. And yes you can criminalize them, you can literally prove a rape and dowry case is fake, it happens all the time and during the same process. @@sudhakar7889

[@arkianempire9669]

​@sudhakar7889 yes...a tap on the wrist.

[@nagratna793]

True but all.issues are important

[@peak_911]

rape cases are criminalized tf you smoking

[@divewithdatascience]

I am happy to hear this virdict by supreme court of India

[@zenzo4815]

​@@abhimanyudeb you need to use single quotation mark not double 'verdict'

[@tarunika983]

Yes 👍🏻

[@CorryGal]

Please explain why you are happy.

[@msriram9884]

Every culture needs to assess this in their own way with their own civilizational values, whether it be India, Nigeria, or Indonesia. Indian culture has never discriminated against anyone on the basis of their sexual preferences, however, it has neither created an identity around these preferences either - I.e. Indian spirituality does not define you by your sexual attraction. So another approach may need to be taken.

[@poojan423]

Being queer is ok in Indian culture but there is no mention of queer marriage in our history. It is also difficult to implement this because of religious based marriage acts. Only UCC can solve this problem

[@yungman7053]

​@@poojan423i really hope if UCC comes it's framed in such a way that alphabet crowd doesn't use UCC as a backdoor to change the definition of marriage

[@playmobilegamescodm]

We don't need to read stone age books and follow stone age culture to decide Modern values. Stone age people lived in Forests. Do you want the same?

[@runescaper2415]

​@@playmobilegamescodmnor do we need mentally ill modern wokes to cater and tell us what is right and wrong just because they have a Freewill to do so.

[@CakeorDeath420]

@@playmobilegamescodm You exist because of a culture that has thrived across ages. You are that identity. What's to show that "modern values" are right? It's already proving wrong in the west and creating havoc in their social fabric. Open your eyes and grow up.

[@bluenotebook489]

3:56 was the survey done only among urban elites while ignoring 70% of the population that resides in rural areas?

[@afrozshaikh9099]

They ignored 99.99% of india. They gathered few LGBT and few normal people from there they got that 53%.

[@PrivateCage98]

Actually... just visit Village once.

[@CorryGal]

No.

[@shivanshsinghiitbombay8407]

They counted only .1% of the population lol. Noway does even a single entire family of india would support this poison

[@Mclovin96X]

you deserved to be ignored

[@pranabnath8026]

the battle is not stopped yet.....it is just the beginning 🏳️‍🌈

[@BalajiIAS-yi3hq]

Nice Toilet paper ra 🤣🤣🤣

[@pranjalfrompurwa]

At least some judges are still sane.

[@sudhakar7889]

They aren't . That's the funny part. Spineless.

[@athayphom3551]

Top answer

[@Pro.24]

Just thinking what would happen if someone from your family comes out of closet today💀

[@dr.martinhwangivanowsky9438]

@@Pro.24 none will come out unless they have this disorder called personality disorder, it's a mantel disorder

[@dr.martinhwangivanowsky9438]

@@Pro.24 people should learn to embrace and accept the fact the way they are created, there are more problems in our world today than this shit stuffs

[@LifeGeneralist]

Only if they criminalize Cruelty to Animals, FAKE DOWRY cases and FAKE RAPE cases, they would earn my respect.

[@nirjabhatt469]

What's the statistics of fake rape case though? I think if the percentage of false accusations is high, people can push for a law for it.

[@LifeGeneralist]

@@nirjabhatt469 Too high after lawyers found loopholes. But even if they are low %tage, it is unjust and there has to be laws to punish them

[@asht7899]

Can you move this comment to a relevant channel. It's not meant to be here. We are talking about a different topic here.

[@berry6467]

No one cares about your respect. Like as if your opinion moves the planet.

[@vikashpal4875]

​@@nirjabhatt469false rape case on a man tarnish his image in society. The society considers him guilty

[@yahooezone]

The LGBT people should not be discriminated or disrespected at the same time should not be over advertised/campaigned always being news, doing unwanted pride marches, etc in short they should not be involved in conversion or confusing teens with their body, leave the way they are and avoid US influence. best would be to provide qualified counsellor/doctor who can give right guidance to the confused teen.

[@pinklotusyoga664]

Indian system! Really! What about man's who is used Transgenders as a prostitution ( for sex) How sick with head this Indian!!! But when people love each other's and want to have a family it's a crime! Go to heal!

[@sudhakar7889]

Indians don't do it. Some organisations are fighting for it silently.

[@ioldis]

No one can convert a heterosexual to convert to homosexual or vice-versa 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@eduardochavacano]

Gays in India are better kept in the closet. They are handsome men. No need to have Blue Hair and act like gays in America. Real gay power is staying gorgeous.

[@yahooezone]

@@ioldis some teens who have reached puberty are sometimes confused watching too much of LGBT content, which influence their mind...

[@subhashbhagwat7411]

As a lay person it seems to me that by referring back to the parliament the supreme court is looking at the separation of criminal and personal laws. Marriage may be considered an issue that falls under personal laws regulated differently depending upon religion. Fundamental rights under the constitution seem to be conditional to being compatible with the personal codes as was seen when some women were denied alimony after divorce in 1986 and later. If and when the Uniform Civil Code (UCC) is passed the supreme court may feel authorized to decide whether same sex marriage is a fundamental right. The court has already decriminalized it because the criminal code applies to all. Just a thought!

[@Believerin3]

For me though, all of these issues (Marriage, Gender etc) comes under common sense. What about you though?

[@meghanarora4136]

Yea we really need UCC..

[@shreeyabachav7249]

Well said sir

[@Peter-be5lo]

Will the govt. stop the uniform civil code just so that this does not end up in the supreme courts domain? Because that would be interesting to watch 😂

[@joelmathew616]

W INDIA One might think that legalizing this is a trivial matter and should be allowed (even i think so). But the problem is that if it would stop with this, I would be okay with it but once this shit is tolerated, they start demanding vile and demonic stuff as visible in the US and Western nations which has wreaked havoc in their respective societies.

[@user-cc1so5tq2p]

That havoc is just on fox news and republican party of USA All other western countries are happy after legalising same sex marriage. Thats the reason more countries are legalising same sex marriage

[@Peter-be5lo]

Oh really? Once its tolerated? Are you treating it as some separate section of society? Lets twist that around to your part of society, since we are talking of 'separate sections'. By your own logic (colonial as it is), if I were to give some rights to indians, like the right to enter public areas for example, then I would say 'if we tolerate this then they will start demanding the right to vote and rule themselves'. 🤦‍♂ I hope you are smart enough to understand now.

[@RR-kw8fb]

Exactly soon schools will stop cultural activities and start drag shows....they will come after our kids like in the west

[@johnn5216]

joel mathew 616 👍🏻

[@GeniusAjinkya]

Amen brother

[@mdgulzaransari1666]

We indian support Supreme Court decision.

[@JitendraSingh-qd7jk]

you're a muslim and your third class opinions do not count

[@krushnanayak1257]

We Indian support marriage..

[@rasingh6893]

Some sanity is still left❤❤ Salute to the 3 sane judges❤

[@alrighwg]

Do you realize that all judges aprove homosexuality? Also they do not aporve it to not considere it a basic right and for you pleasement send it to a buch of dudes who not care but porfits for the taxes everybody including gays, give.

[@rasingh6893]

@@alrighwg India always respected homosexuals, trans etc etc.... But doesn't mean we have to promote it and destroy the basic doctrine of our culture.... There is difference between respecting something and promoting something... Do all the nonsense in private not public

[@rickycool6083]

? Yes, they respect homosexuality, so do I. That is not the same thing as marriage which is based on religion and accepting homosexuality is a normal thing, its not. Its is based on feelings not facts.@@alrighwg

[@alrighwg]

@@rickycool6083 Why is it not normal? it is a biological response, that do not like to some but that doesn't mean it is not normal, to not see homesxuality as normal is a feeling not facts situation.

[@alrighwg]

@@rasingh6893 But your realize that the same marriage is in legal terms, right? Not to hindu marriages. That is different, but the legal marriage that recognize right to parnets like inharance and build a family, besides India is a a pluralistic nation it has wide spectrum, besides if they get marriaed they will made a private ceremony, so whau is the deal. Also "the basic doctrine of our culture" what is that despite there are a vast tradition in India it has evolve thourgt years inflcuences from arab, brithish also the different schools of thouht India has the privalege to have a evolving tradition unlikely like catholics, or muslims, so your fears are just base on bias stufff.

[@RAIN__1996]

I'm BI & i can understand This is a long long paper work process for example the Government has to implement so many new forms in Banks, property, divorce, adoption etc

[@SG003]

I hate this about government, just declare publically you do or don't support gay marriage

[@daviddegea3373]

I want to know where they did the polling that 53% acceptance of this LGTV was seen. What methodology was followed and what was the sample size. For a country as diverse as India, and the population difference and cultural diversity to make a poll of this importance and standing by it is stupidity. There is zero chance that the acceptance is in double digits let alone half. Shameless pandering.

[@RR-kw8fb]

Probably went to a woke college....In a fair survey not even 1 % will be ok with this....and all the religions would actually unite against something🤣🤣

[@daviddegea3373]

@@RR-kw8fb And to think that they did all this and still got just 53% xD

[@mebaiaishan]

They probably conducted the survey among young people. Indian youth are very accepting of the LGBTQ+ community, so it's no surprise that the data tends to be higher. If it were conducted among the majority of advanced individuals, the numbers would be different. And with the diverse demographics like India, this issue is multifaceted.

[@VikramKumar69696]

@@RR-kw8fb Maybe JNU 🤣

[@RR-kw8fb]

@@VikramKumar69696 yaa must have been JNU not even 1% of India would be ok with this crap🤣

[@nirjabhatt469]

I think we need to stop treating LGBT+ people as a separate section of our society. They have always been part of our society and have contributed in various ways. I am not sure how to feel about this but I hope the LGBT+ people in India stay safe and get the freedom to marry whoever they love.

[@CorryGal]

Do not cause troubles. Accept reality.

[@koushikdas657]

​@@CorryGal yes . For me first all heterosexual people should have the right to marry whoever they love without social or family pressure or cast based discrimination. Then we should think about LGBTQIA+ people. There is a method and step to anything. We cannot ignore the first step . And go the Last step .

[@CorryGal]

@@koushikdas657 If you are a Hindu man who loves a Sikh woman, and she loves you, could and would you marry her? Does it matter that your family, or her family, does not approve of the marriage? If you are a gay Hindu man who loves a gay Sikh man, and he loves you, could and would you marry him? Does it matter that your family, or his family, does not approve of the marriage?

[@freddypaul273]

What if someone from the LGBTQ+ community falls in love with you and wants to marry you Or What if from the same community falls in love with your children and have a relationship. Will that be okay for you? Remember there are only two genders: Male and Female.

[@CorryGal]

@@freddypaul273 Love is a personal experience. There are variations of the 2 genders.

[@hindurashtra63]

As a Hindu, I don't have a problem with Same sex relationships at all. What I have a problem is with calling it marraige. A Marriage in our Hindu culture means a relationship between a Man and a Woman. In-fact i support Legalization of Same sex Couples, Let Gay couples have equal rights as married couples in every way possible. In a Democracy, All are equal. So many benefits are not available to Gay couples that are otherwise available to married couples.

[@Sumit-rp5mx]

Court marriage?

[@pàrés_wtf69]

Don't tryna act like you know so much About Hinduism by tagging yourself as Hindu , can you tell in which scripture or Vedic text this is written

[@harshkhare7084]

Problem doesn't stop there. You allow one thing, they'll start with another. These are the *same* people who are hell-bent on destroying moral and family values. They have already caused troubles in the West. Let this filth stay there. We got other types of garbage to deal with already 😊

[@Saudyization]

Either way it still end up as gay relationship. It's only for a man and a woman. Noh Mattar how u want put it. Wrong

[@ManicPixie-bb7wc]

Your Hindu culture does not apply to all the people in India, and should not be imposed as such. Hindu culture only applies to people who practice hinduism. Marriage from a secular perspective is a legally recognized union between two consenting adults. Religion should have no say in government policy or definition of words like marriage.

[@GrantM.-gx2kn]

Good. It starts with "Just let us get married", but later its, "We demand to be alone with your kids while we dress up as women, then we tell kids to chop their tickly parts off and jail anyone that misgenders us".

[@mohamedali2858]

Thank you India 🫡🇮🇳🫡

[@sudhakar7889]

Seems like this guy was once traumatised by a transgender or his uncle must have done something wrong with him.

[@pandapapa1282]

Love has become very diverse and so does the rules of any constitution and it should not be limited to certain gender, I hope we can see better outcome and equal rights in near future for this community.

[@CorryGal]

What's love got to do with it?

[@RoninofRamen]

@@CorryGal # What's love? But a second-hand emotion? #

[@CorryGal]

@@RoninofRamen Who needs a heart when a heart can be broken?

[@CorryGal]

@@RoninofRamen Oh I've been takin' on a new direction But I have to say I've been thinking about my own protection It scares me to feel this way

[@sumitsarkar1799]

Respect to Modi government and Supreme Court of India 🇮🇳

[@philomath1010]

Leave this delusion to the west

[@bulbulgope7720]

53% of India, so, why wasn't I a part of this survey?

[@harrodsfan]

Good for the Indian Supreme Court.

[@sourabh2842]

The battle will be fought until we win🏳️‍🌈✊

[@infinitymarketing3410]

shame on kapil sibbal manu sanghvi, and congress for propagating this bill and wasting supreme court's time

[@aj.sh0108]

LGBTQ+ should get respect, happy that it is not criminalised but I support this decision, this law must come from the representatives of society i.e. Legislators via Parliament. Afterall we all are part of society, if law of marriage, inheritance, etc for everyone has been ratified from Parliament, then the laws for LGBT should also come from parliament

[@adamcolclasure4892]

While I take your point, and would agree, too a certain extent. However, in this situation I'm inclined to disagree human rights shouldn't be left up to parliament where they can play politics with the issue. When you put human rights up for a vote 90% of the time people vote against it stupidly. If the Indian court is saying, it's not a fundamental right by their logic than that should extend to heterosexual couples since marriage isn't a fundamental right and should be left up to politicians too decide.

[@sudhakar7889]

You think parliamentarians are proper fit for that? 😂😂😂😅

[@Wubbzy_screaming]

Gay pedophiles: Maps: Disrespecting religions: Disrespecting veterans:

[@AnjaliSharma-md2do]

😂😂😂😂 respect insano ki hoto hai. LGBTQ Wale respect deserve nahi karte.

[@star-fg8xw]

@@adamcolclasure4892 most personal laws (i.e. laws related to marriage , adoption and inheritance) comes from religion and it is the personal religious laws that determine laws for heterosexual couples and not SC or even parliament (hence the muslims are allowed polygamy etc). So it should be decided by society/religion and not SC.

[@autotechandspecs]

If this had happened in the Western nations, Palki would have been doing the talking herself and criticising like never before but when it's an Indian issue, she chooses to let an anonymous voice narrate. It has been going on for quiet some time now.

[@royd6445]

I think India is not ready for this step, sc order is for the betterment and has given important time to think and discuss on the topic for better results.

[@putul8963]

Do you know why LGBT people are asking for legal recognition? There is this one major issue that reprieve them of another important status. NEXT TO KIN. They will not even be eligible know crucial medical information about their partner if they are admitted in hospital. If SC doesn’t want to give them right to marry, fine. But the law should make provision for recognizing a civil union at central and state level. That way the so called “sanctity of marriage” can be maintained and the marginalized people will get the right to live freely with their partner. And people should realize that this is not a choice. No one would “choose” to live to a difficult life. This is basic biology. There are heterosexuals in our country and there are homosexuals too. It’s high time people accept the reality.

[@JuneTempest]

Although I myself am not a part of it, I am always going to Support the LGBTQ+ community, thank you very much. Being a Hindu myself, as far as i know Hinduism is the most logical and scientific religion to ever exist in the whole world. It is the most open and self-updating religion (according to changing times) and has never imposed any kind of restrictions on same-sex marriages or relationships. Leaving aside the one hateful scripture which imposed strict caste based system on the Hindu community (because i am never going to follow that particular scripture, and I don't even remember its name but I don't consider it to be a part of Hinduism), I think it has always been told in the Hindu scriptures (at least in the original ones, and Not the translated ones), that marriages means people finding their life-partners and to be faithful and devoted to them, and not to be violent with them, etc. in the most simplest terms. Again, this is as far as i know. But, even if that is not the case and i am wrong, i am still going to support the lgbtq+ community. And also in that same case, even though i do believe in one God and that is never going to change, i will be okay with being religion-less.

[@JuneTempest]

And yes, I will choose to be a person with no religion over being a person of any other religion other than the Hindu religion, any day, if I ever decide to leave Hindu religion one day, which I won't, since I know the things I learned from Hindu scriptures to be true. Edit: And to be perfectly honest, I Support the LGBT community a 100% with all my heart, but I do NOT support the Q+ community. However, since it is included under that umbrella term, I am just left with no other choice but to reluctantly and unwillingly support it as a package. Sexual orientation or sexuality of a person is something I don't have a problem with (in fact I fully support it, as I stated earlier) until people just limit it to their own species (and the Q+ community might include people who won't restrict their orientations to only humanoid-beings, hence I made my support for them very clear), or at least some other race of beings on Earth as intelligent of a species or race as humans or more intelligent than them is okay too 😅 (which don't exist).

[@cuteangelnishu6216]

Vedas strictly prohibit sex before marriage, so let's criminalize pre-marital sex and we'll see the true colors of this so called traditional society, lol Such hypocrites, you never deserved life

[@nidhi2693]

to be honest, the only criticism i ever hear of hinduism or santan dharm (whatever you want to call it) is that we have a "caste system" and "sati." literally only two things. the practice of sati doesn't go farther back than the 16th-17th century during the height of invasions (coincidence? i think not). and no scripture even mentions it. it took inspiration from jauhar but jauhar was a communal practice (not restricted to upper class women only, i'm sure more women were involved in some way) and it happened in times of war. sati happened in individual circumstances in some places. Evidently, the number of cases for sati had been exaggerated by the british and research has been done in recent years that proves it to be likely as it justified their colonial efforts. and the caste system is only described as rigid in one scripture that likely has been corrupted. people see as people do. it's a cycle difficult to break from, and while i do not defend the discrimination and violence, i'm not surprised why people continue it. but to the main issue, the lgbtq+ community has never been described as it's own separate community. they were very much integrated into our society. our scriptures do mention them, but it's in such a neutral way and similar to how other communities were treated in texts that you don't notice it. there are certain legends that describe them in a more positive way but the discrimination against them has risen since british colonization. gay and transgenders are literally going to hell according to many christians still, and that was definitely the general idea back then. they created the literal hijra "community" and outcasted them from society. today the argument is that being gay or same-sex relations are not natural and nature or "god" has not made us that way. majority of animals engage in same-sex activities. lions, bonobos, koalas, penguins is just a small list to show how the variation. nature also shows that parents can eat their children. but humans don't- usually. humans are complex enough creatures that we can follow the rules of nature but also make a few of our own for a better and harmonious society. Definitely, the lgbtq+ community deserve the same rights as well. we all deserve to happy as long as we aren't hurting each other (as in violence for those who don't get it).

[@Thaddeus-ml8if]

They probably surveyed 100 people.

[@KarthikS30712]

To show support and actually living the life are two entirely different things. Where did they get the 53% from? I haven't heard of the survey and I don't know anyone who has heard or participated in it.

[@ruidixin3460]

There were not DISAPPOINTED. The court has done the right thing. Same-Sex Rights cannot overtake the Institution of Hindu Marriage. If they want that, they can migrate to another Country.

[@playmobilegamescodm]

I am sorry For LGBTQ community in countries of Middle East And China. In India they can atleast go to bed together so they should be thakful. But yes, we still need more progress.

[@ardi08]

In China it is also not banned basically

[@Suppankuppan]

Marriage is for leading Dharmic life. If two same sex people want to live together, please do so, but do not call it marriage. Everyone has rights to do what they want in their life. Let us not alter the meaning of Marriage.

[@03.achyuthans39]

So same sex people can’t lead Dharmic life? Where is it given

[@CorryGal]

Marriage is defined as "the state of being united as spouses in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law." It says nothing about the gender or sex of spouses.

[@tylerisangry2444]

"Everyone has rights to what they want in their life" please use this statement carefully terrorists might be seeing this and will use it

[@CorryGal]

@@tylerisangry2444 What is your authority for writing "Everyone has rights to what they want in their life"? Are you GOD?

[@monakandari6160]

​@@CorryGalThat's the problem. In India we have different religions, different tribes, different laws for everyone. So acc to which religion u wanna marry? If u r doing court marriage then it's fine but dont involve any cultural rituals

[@priyanka4821]

i think its fair that this decision is handed over to the govt of india. becasue same sex marriage will lead to a lot of other questions like adoption .. in indian law, single man can't adopt a girl child, so now does a gay couple can adopt a girl child if same sex marriage is legalized. there are similar such things to be considered, so a proper law and act needs to be crafted by the govt, after looking at it holistically. in an ideal world yes same sex marriage should be as good as heterosexual marriage but we dont love in a perfect world do we.. also in the current times when young generation is going against marriage , i thinkt he concept of partner by law which is there in other western countries can also be considered and looked into by the govt..

[@vikashsehgal1000]

Fight hard 🏳️‍🌈✊

[@maheshrachakonda4322]

How did they get 58%??. Did they go to Villages and took survey there , did they even went to tier 2 cities... Their sample survey is not valid ... They should cover all sector of people, not some posch College students in delhi and Mumbai???.. Making judgement based on it is disaster...

[@zoravar7405]

I seriously don't know where these fact checkers get these , this is absolutely ridiculous nobody wants a forced acceptance 😷of LGBTQ they must not be given such matrimonial rights

[@harshkhare7084]

Source of survey: Trust me bro. Evidence: Amreeka ki GORI ma'am ka Diya hua biscuit 🙂

[@the-uncool-guy]

They didn't even release the sample size it could be 200 peoples or 300 peoples from tier 1 cities

[@RR-kw8fb]

they probably went to a woke college and asked 20 people

[@alrighwg]

the survey is about acceptances of homosexuality not same sex marrigae.

[@siddhartharoy6744]

W Supreme Court

[@regsmith7604]

Good for India

[@mahis7573]

Civil union is good option. Benefits of property sharing/ divorce and inheritance should be included under civil union.

[@Shjdbms]

Instead of solving many conflicts happening in India at the present moment this is being discussed in the Parliament? And I don't get why this is a serious issue like bro people are fighting for their life and dying everyday.

[@Farazkhan-ji3cr]

In my openion why their civil union must have been legally recognised is because when they enter into relationships are often abandoned by their families in most of the cases and in such a situation to take care of each other in case of emergency like medical emergency they can’t use each other’s resources as per the petitioner which I also found to be valid.

[@lokeshch706]

They do not accept who they are and they are something and now they want us to accept it. This heights of hypocrisy

[@akshaya179]

Finally someone spoke truth. I don't know y normal sane people like us have to accept them went their family members couldn't

[@DGLeo482]

The point is YOU are no one to accept or not accept them. This is about their legal rights. Going by social validation Indian folks anyway have many bigoted views. Doesn't mean our laws of equality should be bent for whatever the society believes. Equality of citizens is absolute.

[@ramansingh503]

Gays and Lesbians accept their gender but at the same the they also accept the fact that they have no attraction for someone of opposite gender. They have accepted themselves as homosexuals and you should accept them as well.

[@uveshpanja6293]

Us you mean some homophobes ???What a joke we accept ourselves who we are We don't need your validation and whole world doesnt revolve around you

[@bhuwin6186]

Wtf? They do accept who they are but society doesn’t

[@Kalinga_3]

"Passing the buck to parliament ?" It was the central government which challenged the petition in the court. So much content filtration by stocking anti colonial sentiment just to help the ruling party when it itself opposed the petition in courts

[@Itsme-dp7je]

I think India was way more advanced in ancient era.. but now its way too behind other countries...Too much religious which is dangerous regardless of what religion!! Sad!!😢

[@KartikChauhan__KC]

Bruh

[@amoghvastrad3352]

I am Straight. But this judgement is worst. Love should be individual conscience. Govt and society should focus on Problems rather than going to bedroom.

[@uveshpanja6293]

They don't understand, this is India...even nepal is better in this matter.. I'm thinking of leaving India 😢

[@monakandari6160]

​@@uveshpanja6293are u out yet?

[@uveshpanja6293]

@@monakandari6160 no I'm not out I live in a small village it is risky for my life I'm moving to Mumbai after some days so maybe I can find someone there then maybe in future I will move to another country

[@uveshpanja6293]

@@monakandari6160 are you a girl or boy

[@abhimanusingh66]

​​@@uveshpanja6293pls do...we dont want people who are more interested in what's insude their pants and sex rather than developing a country's economy. These are 1st world problems, here we need hard working people who thinks for society not some who thinks their private parts topics are more important. Good luck wherever uou go.

[@ytadi9229]

Where did you do the survey?

[@rohanazad3983]

Kolkata 🏳️‍🌈

[@RR-kw8fb]

in their heads

[@ravichandel8690]

same sex marriage should be a criminal offence in all form

[@dwimusudem7943]

Next up : legalise marriage to trees and goats as that’s also not unnatural and has existed for centuries

[@jaiadithya3776]

The difference is these marriages happen in India to remove some dosham according to some astrologers and are considered sacred.

[@monakandari6160]

​@@jaiadithya3776Uhmm... It's not legal💀

[@shriradhikalavanya9262]

​@@jaiadithya3776these marriages happen in some parts of India they are not common at all.

[@kashyap_0-0_]

Chipko movement but with steroids lezz gooo i support it

[@punnamrajenderreddy5537]

this is the only thing all religions willl unite to fight

[@sudhakar7889]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Commonman-b8x]

We should thank the justices of Supreme Court for not letting this abomination spoil our societies.

[@lucygrg6887]

The judgement was correct as India is not ready for it. This will cause ripples in society. Compared to other countries, India is doing well. Let's wait , time will come for everything.

[@harneetsinghsaluja]

It may have started with the issue of same sex marriage but what it bottled down for the Hon'ble Court was whether or not it has the power to legislate, which the Hon'ble Court do not possess. The decision may seem disheartening to a lot of people but an adverse decision could have had a disastrous impact on the Indian legal system. If the decision had come in affirmative, it would have jeopardised the very essence of separation of power. Thus, in sense threatening the constitutional values. The Hon'ble Court has directed the Govt. to form a committee to properly research and legislate laws required to recognise same sex couple's right to marry, which is at least a few steps forward for the community.

[@CorryGal]

Do not be causing troubles. Accept reality.

[@Shjdbms]

No wonder our country is still underdeveloped caise the higher ups ain't doing nothing.

[@zi.4282]

Now Same Sexual marriage Later we myt see demand for human and animal marriage. People are turning to madness.

[@ardi08]

Opposite sex marriage allowed does that mean marriage between old man and an underage female allowed? No right?

[@MegaPanwar]

Indians will not come out of the colonial slavery mindset …sad … How are providing basic human rights is this hard in a democracy this big … Nepal just legalised same sex unions learn from them

[@reginald1047]

What does colonialism have to do with Universal Morality?

[@zui9607]

Homosexuality was accepted in India before the islamic invasion and british colonization. The current laws in India are laws based on british laws carried it just carried forward. Hence colonization has loads to do with it. We went from a very open accepting society a thousand years ago to this.

[@sudhakar7889]

There's just YOUR morality. No universal morality. It's immoral of you to think having sex with a consensual individual is immoral.

[@rickycool6083]

You say the same shit with a child as well? Or what your logic? Sodomization is not sex, just cause it is treated as such by porn. Its immoral cause its not normal and taboo in society, and is based on lies and feelings. And no you CAN have sex with a consenting adult if you want, this judgement doesn't do anything for that. Couples can exist and behave like married partners. But you don't get to force society to accept that as normal.@@sudhakar7889

[@lautheimpaler4686]

@@zui9607Nope. Homosexual people existed in India. And people knew it. But it was rightfully ignored and never got mainstream attention. Same sex relationships did not have any "acceptance" from Indian society. At least openly. Same can be said about any Eastern Asian or SE Asian society.

[@shrutig1466]

I don't understand why any Indian should have problem if two people wants to marry?

[@monakandari6160]

Cause marriage is associated to religion

[@abhimanusingh66]

Being dumb is not easy. Its ok if u dont understand, dumb people have narrow thought-process anyway.

[@kanthlk]

Kicking out these self-appointed judges is the fundamental right of all Indian citizens. SC has over 70,000 pending cases, lakhs of cases are pending in various other courts, these useless judges are happy taking summer vacations and giving lectures all over the world.

[@tarlochansingh620]

First understand the working of the judiciary in India, then talk about these "useless" judges

[@anmolt3840051]

Which article of the constitution gives us this Fundamental Right? I'm curious to know

[@putul8963]

@@anmolt3840051 article 21: a fundamental right that declares that no person shall be deprived of his life or personal liberty except according to the procedure established by law.

[@LifeGeneralist]

Well said

[@CorryGal]

Do not cause trouble by criticizing judges.

[@varuntomar5114]

I don't know when was the survey done, u should conisder my vote also, the survey didn't happen in my town. When this survey isn't done nationwide then how can u say that 53 percent of indians approve

[@emanjamil8478]

This is the main reason for decline of the western society. As west falls, east rises, India rises. Let India rise. Let the children plan and ponder over their future and not over their genders. Indian culture and traditional values are much older than Abrahamic religions even. Don’t let western ideas pollute them. Love from Pakistan.

[@antiabrahamicreligion]

Lol have u heard what madhurya bhava is?

[@RogerDosethee-bg8rw]

This entire world is going mad

[@veepee2562]

India is right in its decision. It is written in the Bible that a man and a woman shall marry and multiply, so how can a man and a man or a girl and a girl multiply?

[@vasanthanthony6183]

It is also written in the Bible if children do not listen to their parents then they must be stoned to death (Deuteronomy 21) i can tell you many more like this....there are so many things in the Bible which will never be accepted in the modern day....times change....Pope Francis has himself said "If a person is gay and seeks God and has good will, who am I to judge?"...please change your views the world has changed!

[@masterniggoway]

​@@vasanthanthony6183 mentally ill?

[@davidjobin2013]

Bible should be thrown in gutter

[@himanshubhushan4791]

Rather throw that stupid book out

[@lokeshch706]

They do not accept who they are and they are something and now twhu want us to accept it. This heights of hypocrisy

[@theindicwagner]

53% sample size itself questions the Research Methodology itself. Whether the sample size is diversified in terms of I II and III tier cities or villages or not ? Positivism or Post Positivism paradigm was used ? Is it Action , Fundamental , Applied or Scientific research or not?

[@narendrajade5086]

I am glad with the verdict. If SC would have legalized marriage, it would set a terrible precedent that the Judiciary can now make laws for the country.

[@bhaktilatamishra3891]

1. How much study had been done on this issue before forcing society to accept this? 2. What are the side effects, consequences, if attraction is permanent or temporary, chances of attraction for opposite sex, then what happens to the rights of other spouse about adoption of child, impact of life lessons on the adopted child, grounds for divorce, what about criminal laws? One can't be of one sex in civil laws and different sex in criminal laws? 3. What about changes that it will bring between heterosexual couples in case of rape, domestic violence, divorce alimony, dowry when the perpetrators will announce themselves as same sex persons be it man or woman? 4. How homosexual couples will prove who has done the crime on them or nature of the crime? If a man identify himself as woman and a woman identifying herself as woman how will he protect himself in crime related sexual orientation? 5. Why such a force is being applied on psychology of people very rapidly and by forcing them by making them feel guilty by announcing them as homophobic, is it because of large profit of pharma business and drug business ? 6. Are those opposing this doesn't have any logical concerns? Why are people tagging them homophobic?

[@Wubshetgetachewu4839]

You are right!

[@Dakshin-x3f]

I support lgbtq and their relationship. I think people shouldn't make it a issue just marry whoever u like. Remember in ancient time there was marriage to trees too. But these marches, campaigns and confusing kids teens should be made criminal. Even women's day should be banned too. Too much of political correctness ruins society because of vote bank politics.

[@sudhakar7889]

Hmm, I can agree with you on some points but who's confusing the kids? I don't understand it. Why do you expose your kids to these kinds of adult stuff? Maybe parents are to be blamed for not educating their kids right. Maybe you'll explain a bit

[@rickycool6083]

Parents cannot be blamed when you literally promote this garbage onto the entire society. How about you be gay in your own homes instead of making it an issue. Kids will literally believe anything and everything, that is why they are kids and that is why they are stupid. And don't act dumb we see what is happening in US. @@sudhakar7889

[@shreymathur8720]

Marrying a tree doesn't give right to tree to sue husband under 498A. So please understand the complexity of ti. There were multiple questions raised in front of bench including inheritance full blood, half blood and who would be a wife because law clearly states these blood relationships from a biological male and female prospective? If a biological male considers himself as women you can't term that person as wife. I can go on buy giving you the context.

[@BalajiIAS-yi3hq]

You don't respect the Supreme Court Judgement which means you're unwantedly involving in LGBTQ+ activism. You're a Straight Girl and remain in that line. We Indian Men will take care of those Groomers

[@03.achyuthans39]

The entire issue is they are not allowed to marry whomever they want. They can’t introduce someone as their husband or wife backseats the State will not give a certificate, that’s what they want to change

[@pavitrajaimungal1889]

It is adharmic to encourage marriages between two men and two women. Let LGBT couples live together on their own as 'same sex union' but no courts nor pundits/ priests should stand up to marry them. Thats not Indian / Kulture nor Hindu principles. Bharat Desh must stand strong.

[@combinatorics1224]

Bhai pehle culture ka spelling sahi kijie

[@sudhakar7889]

Who gives a fk about your Dharma?!! Is this country established in Dharma principles all together? It's this country running on Dharma now? What nonsense?

[@MrDevnandan]

So your position is that abolishing the law and matching the current British laws of today is not a reflection on coloniality ?

[@pranjalfrompurwa]

Exactly.

[@sudhakar7889]

No. Colonising British is different to new British which is way more progressed.

[@Ankittiwari-nk1tt]

To be honest, I support this initiative of legalizing same couple marriage. If this is done, the government will be forced to make changes in the divorce laws pertaining to alimony and other aspects of transforming marriage into a legal contract, rather than considering it to be sacrosanct. It will also benefit the men who are legally scammed by their predatory spouses. PS- I know this comment doesn't belong here, but still I would like to support LGBTQI+ marriages to be legalized so that it brings about a change in the marriage laws in India, so that I could bring up the question of marriage in front of my SO with a well built Prenup agreement!

[@vipulpatel3498]

If India wants to become Super power or World Guru then we must be the inclusive societies irrespective of gender,cast,religion,colour. LGBTQ community was, is and will be given a greater contribution to the development of India's journey.

[@hrishikeshdeka1359]

maybe the survey was being conducted involving majority of only GAYS and LESBIANS ..thats y it has 53% support.....this is sick...these nationalist and activists are destroying the beloved culture of our Bharat.

[@baebyrbunny]

I have faith in our govt. If something good comes out , it would be under this govt. The other parties only use us for their own politics, the same way they use other communities. The left liberal are portraying this judgement as a bad decision but for me it's good to check every aspect of it which could influence society in a negative way. Some people from lgbt community may not like it at present but the decision made by supreme court is right. The parliament should decide how and which way the law could be implemented. We can wait some more. Watching the western countries short sighted decision's result, influencing kids in a bad way, i would say it is wise to take precaution before passing any law. Personally i would like to have marriage rights for us. If religiously it is not possible then atleast some legal way the couple should get acknowledgement. Something similar to court marriages is good. Adoption matter is different. I agree with the reasoning. Children don't need to understand something that the adults of our country can't understand. First educate the adults. Legal marriage on papers should be allowed. Let the gen public understand it first. Till then Gandharva marriage is our only option👍🏻✌🏻🏳️‍🌈🌈

[@leechrec]

No such thing as same sex marriage, so they got that right.

[@brendonchristopherlacroix8730]

Well done Indian Supreme Court. Well done and said sir (President, Bar Association, Supreme Court Of India) Mr. Adish Aggarwala. Good call. As an Indian that enjoys being straight, I applaud the Judgement passed by you esteemed and very wise members of The Indian Supreme Court. Be Blessed by The One True GOd of This Earth and HIS Peace be upon you all. Jai Hind.

[@occultboi1891]

what BKC are you doing here? Dont bring your Christian stuff in here... There is no one god in India. That is the beauty of India. Nobody asked for your input

[@xymsyd5183]

A sign of declining indian power; believe me the whole system will collapse, same happening in america

[@amrinkazi6008]

I am not against same sex marriage, but i am afraid of what comes next after recognizing same sex marriage. Adopting kids by same sex couples, imposing that ideology on kids, havoc in schools about teaching gender identity. Thats what happening in US.

[@kashyap_0-0_]

Exactly

[@anidraworld286]

Adoption by gay plp was never a problem look at other countries American is way to woke

[@ibanongsiej-gl9cp]

Good decision solute to the supreme court

[@Pro.24]

Surprised to witness so many youngsters are not even putting logic as to how its not natural. They call it as insanity...but on what grounds it is insane? Their kinds remind me of how satidaha pratha was kept going back in past bcz they r spineless to tackle logic and moral values

[@rickycool6083]

Proof that it was going on in the past? Just cause you read some nonsense doesn't mean it's true. You have no clue what sati was just like most people have no clue what caste is. The word itself is not even Indian. Since you think gay is natural? prove how it is natural. Go. Prove that there are million genders and pronouns are personal depending on your feelings. While you are at it prove that spiderman is not real and earth is not flat too. Every body part, your every emotion serves a raw purpose in life, the point of attraction is reproduction which is impossible for same-sex, that is why people are not born same-sex normally and only in rare cases, just like some people are rarely born blind, with tumours, without legs, cojoined or with a terminal illness. It is NOT normal, there is literally over 1500 years worth of medical history and records to support this. We know what a normal human is like down to its blood cell count. When people have normal bodies but feel weird they are either sick or have a mental illness. Don't act smart when you have failed school.

[@zuhasajid900]

sati was a murderous act don't compare it to this maybe give a better example

[@Pro.24]

@@zuhasajid900 Oh! I see! And it took us exactly how many years to understand it was a murderous act? Would you mind to answer where exactly the consciousness was when they were brutally burning those widows? I knew someone would jump in the comment section without understanding what I meant... anyways, you didn't understood my point... The society is always reluctant to change let it be Satidaha pratha, let it be giving women rights to equally compete with men...society always struggled to understand the moral values...

[@monakandari6160]

​@@Pro.24How many cases of "brutually" Burnt were recorded? The key point is "forcefully" cause I read cases where they did it intentionally

[@Pro.24]

@@monakandari6160 yeah that is the point. They were burnt against their will. And I feel sorry for such cases where the society turned blind eyes TILL that shit is abolished. After the event, ppl, those who once supported that very event tends to go against it.

[@PikaChu-kj4ms]

Jung ladi thi himmat se, fir chahe jeet ho yaa haar kam se kam ye he ki ha humne apne haq ke liye awaz uthai. Supreme court ke faisle ko hume swikar karna hi padega mere LGBT bhai beheno dil chota mat karna humne isse bhi bure din dikhe he September 2018 se pehle. Or rahi baat jung ki toh wo toh azadi tak rahegi aaj nhi toh aaj se 10 saal baad sahi or himmat rakho iss sadi me hume Hindustan kya puri duniya me 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈 apna parcham lehrana he. Hum girenge bhi or dobara uthkar khade bhi honge chahe laakh zamana khilaaf ho ek kadva sach zamane ko bhi hazam karna hoga ki hum kudrat ki hi den he, hum kahi nhi jaanewale humara astiva nhi mitne wala or na hi ye ladai khatam hogi 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈

[@olushayotriumph]

Do you think you can get both sweet and bitter water from the same fountain? If you denounce heterosexual marriage but wants all the fruit and sweetness of heterosexual marriage? How?

[@the-uncool-guy]

Wow 😮you have appointment

[@sudhakar7889]

Seems like only you do that.

[@PuppyCatCake]

lmao. U got a point there.

[@time3735]

No one is denouncing heterosexual marriage. Just because you want gay marriage doesn't necessarily mean you'll banned or stop heterosexual marriage. Stupidity it's finest.

[@notyourophelia]

Stay sane India.

[@PNS_college]

Good Decision👍🏻

[@girishrao3181]

Why does Indian government is unable to close red light areas, which are illigal as prostitution is illigal ,why does govt unable to do beti bachavo from prostitution , and rehabilitate them?

[@artishment4995]

There should also be some laws to protect children too,if two men claiming to be a couple want to adopt a child let's say female it's authorities responsibility to see that the child doesn't get abused in any form.

[@jaiadithya3776]

Well, hate to break it to you but Indian law does not allow adoption of a girl child by a single man, let alone a same sex male couple.

[@artishment4995]

@@jaiadithya3776 I meant in a scenario were if same sex couples were given rights.

[@jaiadithya3776]

@@artishment4995 If that's the case then it is obviously a valid concern

[@Pidatha]

Why is a single Woman allowed to adopt a Male child ? Women are just as capable of abusing Children

[@revidreamworld486]

If all countries legalise same sex marriage and everyone are into it . I just wonder will the babies fall from sky .☁😅😅

[@peace-cy6wd]

i think gay people should increase ....atleast our children will get more space in future

[@salifnjie]

Well done Indian supreme court good decision

[@bio1983]

If I'm enjoying sex with my horse, what letter of rainbow alphabet I should refer to? Would it be a different letter if I prefer white horses? Are Horse Marriages legal?

[@pranjalfrompurwa]

Only if the horse consents.

[@islandsunset]

Last I checked, animals cannot talk. They can't consent to your advances. On the other hand, an adult human being can give their consent in a language others can understand and let them know if they want to have sex. Your comment legitimises the trope that Indians don't understand the concept of contest.

[@hindurashtra63]

@@pranjalfrompurwa 😂

[@sudhakar7889]

​@@pranjalfrompurwa😂😂😅👍👍👍

[@ayushbisht6756]

@@pranjalfrompurwa and is 18+

[@lypdmaxpane]

I don't think colonialism has anything to do with this decision of the court. It's fairly normal for a country legal system to pass law using parliament .

[@riscnx]

It has nothing to do with IPC377. Palki, I am disappointed. It seems nobody in you team follow the discussion in SC or even read the judgement.

[@venberd]

Go woke go broke ,save yourself india

[@geoffreyugwuegbulam6277]

This immoral and nonsense movement from the West has to be stopped. God bless India Supreme court🙏🙏

[@letsthinkbriefly3761]

True!

[@kashyap_0-0_]

India for a bad reason uses English as you can see me (at least online) and this Indians tend to get influenced by western stuff it comes like waves, i totally expect these "i recognise as a water bottle" in a few years

[@essee3984]

A man is a human with XY chromosome A woman is a human with XX chromosome You may choose to alter your body physically, but the genetic composition would never change. What's the confusion?

[@aAverageFan]

Homosexuality and transgenderism are totally separate things.