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@FirstThingsFirst
@FirstThingsFirst 2 жыл бұрын
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@sunshinesooperman5110
@sunshinesooperman5110 2 жыл бұрын
NO.
@caseydouglas412
@caseydouglas412 2 жыл бұрын
Kd doesn’t guarantee a championship. Plain and simple nobody is trading their team to get him.
@munyun8344
@munyun8344 2 жыл бұрын
Kd hate train going crazy this summer
@cotypoullard6852
@cotypoullard6852 2 жыл бұрын
You right
@DrShwazz
@DrShwazz 2 жыл бұрын
@@munyun8344 It’s not KD hate. Dude is turning 34 and nobody is giving that up for an older KD. Maybe if he was 27.
@coarnellius
@coarnellius 2 жыл бұрын
@@munyun8344 it’s facts ! KD doesn’t guarantee a chip . If so Nets or Okc would have Won atleast 1 you got to put the right team around him not deplete the team and send him there 😂
@coarnellius
@coarnellius 2 жыл бұрын
@Alex F Not Enough Shooters My Dude 😭 and who’s gonna lead ? KD ? 💀
@coltonbeebe8779
@coltonbeebe8779 2 жыл бұрын
Chris is tripping lately… Barnes, Siakam, AND VanVleet for Durant? Or Butler AND Bam? That’s ridiculous. Devin Booker can’t even be traded since he just signed his extension.
@BrewedCoffeeBean
@BrewedCoffeeBean 2 жыл бұрын
he even said butler + bam isn’t close to the value of KD lmaoo 🤣 man is delusional
@SuperSarhanWebdev
@SuperSarhanWebdev 2 жыл бұрын
He is trying to be a joker to replace Jouqain Pheonix 😂😂
@allenmk138
@allenmk138 2 жыл бұрын
Did you see what they asked the Twolves for? KAT and ANT with 4 picks is way better than both those deals. Butler is close to mid 30's and Bam has been exposed in the playoffs. That Raptors trade only makes sense if it comes with picks.
@andrdmosley
@andrdmosley 2 жыл бұрын
That's not what he said at all... Were you listening lol... Firstly he said Barnes and Siakum for Durant... Not Barnes, Siakum and Vanvleet... The Vanvleet part was if it was Barnes snd Anunoby... You would have to add Vanvleet with those two guys... He never said Barnes, Siakum and Vanvleet Secondly, the Devin Booker part he was saying theoretically...
@SuperSarhanWebdev
@SuperSarhanWebdev 2 жыл бұрын
@@allenmk138 didn't see the wolves saying yes to it tho
@colevt
@colevt 2 жыл бұрын
The answer is “No”. KD has proven that he can’t win without a lineup full of HOFers in their prime. What has he done without Steph?
@dontgetthengetit
@dontgetthengetit 2 жыл бұрын
💯💯💯facts
@Mrt-yg9mw
@Mrt-yg9mw 2 жыл бұрын
cmon he played with westbrook for how many years? just dont say ohh but hes MVP superstar triple double machine, yes he is and he is perfect for a bad team to be a shining light and carry them, but winning chip with Point like russ? cmon.
@sharondeleon4950
@sharondeleon4950 2 жыл бұрын
Lebron cant get a ring in Cleveland. What did he do. He went to miami with 2 superstar PLUS RAY ALLEN. He went back to Cleveland because Kyrie, Kevin love , Tristan thompson is already there, not to mention JR Smith , Kyle Corver. Then he went to Lakers . What happened. Eliminated. Then in the summer of 2019 He took everybody . AD, Howard, Danny Green, Rajon Rondo. That is the GOAT in recruiting hahaha
@colevt
@colevt 2 жыл бұрын
@@sharondeleon4950 I didn’t even mention LeBron??? Does he just live in your head??? What does Lebron have to do with this statement??? Lol
@Mrt-yg9mw
@Mrt-yg9mw 2 жыл бұрын
@@EventualWarlord in denial about what? well maybe i had to put more info about my views, I actually think that KD cant win without another player being a leader so mostly agree with a point, but at the other hand not that much info cuz most of his carrier he played with Russ, and while Russ was insane on paper at the start of his prime i already said that this guy would never win a championship while hes starting point guard for any team, his only chance is when hes old and playing from the bench. Just no chance you are favorite to win when your point guard playing against the best shooter of all time and see him stop & pop 3 pointer and he decides to do the same while being terrible perimeter shooter. And for Durant, I actually think nothing wrong to just be very good ball player who just wants to go on the court and play, but at the same time if you are like this, having conversations for him to be one of all time greatests sounds silly to me. Steph>KD and for me its not even that close as other people sees it.
@scottmurphy6162
@scottmurphy6162 2 жыл бұрын
Totally disagree with Wildes and Broussard about Boston. Jaylen Brown is 25 and has continued to improve on both ends. KD will be 34 next season, and while he’s better than Jaylen and Tatum right now, his age and injury history suggest his decline is imminent. I don’t know if Boston will make it back to the Finals with their current roster, but I also don’t think it’s a guarantee that will happen with KD. Why not run it back and retain your assets instead of blowing it up to bet on an uncertain title run?
@jorgegamboa5821
@jorgegamboa5821 2 жыл бұрын
Boston caught a couple of nice breaks this finals run.. no Middleton and no Herro (6MOY). So it is going to be very hard for them to get back if they stay the same. If they only trade Brown and picks for KD, Boston would get substantially better. Jaylen is a nice player, but he's no Kevin Durant.
@connorsmith6517
@connorsmith6517 2 жыл бұрын
@@jorgegamboa5821 Tatum and Brown can still take that next step, Steph and Klay did. I’m not saying they’ll become the splash bros. But I am saying they can still reach another level that could put them over the top.
@revealingtruth3329
@revealingtruth3329 2 жыл бұрын
I like Jaylen Brown a whole lot but I’ll drive him to the airport myself in return for KD. He isn’t anywhere close to the player KD is
@MrJones019
@MrJones019 2 жыл бұрын
Well I totally agree with him. No matter how good Brown becomes he's never gonna be close to KD. Adding KD gives you 3-4 year run for the title. What do assets mean if you just keep them for the sake of it, winning is the thing that matters. No guarantee Boston wins with either Brown of KD, because guarantees do not exist in life, much less in sport. However, your chances are much higher with KD, or at least I think so and that is what Wildes is pointing out. Not even talking about just Boston. Let's take the Raptors example: let's say Barnes develops to be great. That could give you a chance of 10% of winning a title over the next 10-15 years (the number is probably lowe as a looooot of factors influence this). Now, let's say KD gives you just 11% chance of winning over 4 years, you take that chance. Bottom line is a lot of factors go into winning a championship/developing a star player (A LOT). KD is a certainty, no other player not named Curry, LeBron, Giannis, Embiid, Jokic or Doncic (throwing a younger one) are.
@scottmurphy6162
@scottmurphy6162 2 жыл бұрын
@@jorgegamboa5821 KD is absolutely better than Jaylen, but the Nets reportedly want a king’s ransom for an injury prone star who’s at or approaching the end of his prime. I’m not sure you can say definitively that KD would guarantee a championship when he’s never done that outside of Golden State. Is that worth blowing up your team for? Who’s to say he won’t force his way off his next team if things don’t go well enough?
@shvnlocalcrew
@shvnlocalcrew 2 жыл бұрын
Why is everybody acting like KD can lead a team to a championship by himself ?
@johnbrowne3896
@johnbrowne3896 2 жыл бұрын
🥇
@MicMucique2
@MicMucique2 2 жыл бұрын
they want Kevin Durant to be better than LeBron so bad. you got to remember a few people put a lie to energy and trying to make Kevin Durant better than LeBron james. and the only time they had that conversation was when Kevin Durant was winning easy championships with golden state. if Kevin Durant don't go to Golden state. and you still have the stats. he probably won't even be a top 20 player. I don't know what this big push is to try to save his legacy when he not even putting in the effort to do it himself
@shervinbayat671
@shervinbayat671 2 жыл бұрын
@@MicMucique2 when did lebron ever do it himself?
@christopheriverson7103
@christopheriverson7103 2 жыл бұрын
@@shervinbayat671: never.........not one time.....
@travdiddy1220
@travdiddy1220 2 жыл бұрын
KD doesn't make you a championship contender in a trade. That has never been true. KD went to a stacked team who lost by 1 game in a 7 games series in the finals. He hasn't proved he can guide a team to the title.
@thedeifiedjulius2310
@thedeifiedjulius2310 2 жыл бұрын
Nick is right about this. KD is not as valuable at 34
@csababalog9702
@csababalog9702 2 жыл бұрын
He is finished, he can only win a championship if he goes to play with a top 5 player
@burnabyjoe3196
@burnabyjoe3196 2 жыл бұрын
The raptors disrespect.. they say it will take Scottie + Siakam and vanvleet and picks to get KD. Then Nick says he wouldn’t trade Mobley for KD 1 for 1!? Not to mention Chris can’t doesn’t even know OG’s name
@micahclawrence
@micahclawrence 2 жыл бұрын
Mobley is untouchable bc of his youth and no one can limit his ceiling right now. KD is amazing. But he is 34
@zaynrivers7433
@zaynrivers7433 2 жыл бұрын
Micah Lawrence same thing applies to Scottie Barnes
@micahclawrence
@micahclawrence 2 жыл бұрын
@@zaynrivers7433 not to me. Scottie is great. Just doesn’t have the size X factor. Scottie could maybe be Kawhi. Mobley could be maybe be Giannis.
@zaynrivers7433
@zaynrivers7433 2 жыл бұрын
Micah Lawrence Scottie can get full court in like 3 dribbles I def think he can be Giannis lol
@micahclawrence
@micahclawrence 2 жыл бұрын
@@zaynrivers7433 he’s great. Just isn’t 7 ft tall
@johnpestano22
@johnpestano22 2 жыл бұрын
That's why I admire GS culture they draft well and there's respect top to bottom.
@Sc19869
@Sc19869 2 жыл бұрын
Except when the formed an unbeatable team with kd
@johnpestano22
@johnpestano22 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sc19869 nonetheless they are a dynasty you have to respect their accomplishments.
@SiFuSus
@SiFuSus 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sc19869 I'm on the notion you can ask, the worse thing they say is no. At that point, I feel its on KD for joining GSW.
@Yeezydude7115
@Yeezydude7115 2 жыл бұрын
No because when you break the bank for him your team will be so depleted you won't be able to compete
@colinedelman6392
@colinedelman6392 2 жыл бұрын
And he might get moody in a year or two and ask to be traded.. no, time for the owners to take back the league
@mikepanton
@mikepanton 2 жыл бұрын
exactly
@JDNoble
@JDNoble 2 жыл бұрын
AKA the Brooklyn Nets
@leonardomoore1868
@leonardomoore1868 2 жыл бұрын
@@colinedelman6392 but go ahead and break the bank for rudy goebert! GTFOH Your hate for kd makes u sound foolish.
@AirTran6
@AirTran6 2 жыл бұрын
@@leonardomoore1868 they didn’t give up any of their core that’s the point
@YouCallThataKnife253
@YouCallThataKnife253 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with the Wolves trading Edwards for KD, is that KD is on the back end of his career, and has an extensive injury history. This means your window for success is very short in a league stacked with great teams. But since Edwards is on his rookie deal, and will almost certainly sign an extension + potentially a supermax after that, you're talking about well over a decade of his _potential_ greatness
@andreward8268
@andreward8268 2 жыл бұрын
Get the Championship NOW
@conanho8445
@conanho8445 2 жыл бұрын
Nah I'd rather have KD for next 2 years with a better chance of winning the chip, then keeping Edwards for 10 years, with a slightly lower chance of winning the chip
@Pipsqueak-
@Pipsqueak- 2 жыл бұрын
@@conanho8445 Would you rather have a 30% chance to win it all for the next 2 years or a 10% chance the next 10 years?
@mikeh6700
@mikeh6700 2 жыл бұрын
The Wolves have zero chance of winning a championship if they trade KAT & AE for KD. Who would they even have left at that point? DLO?
@mikeh6700
@mikeh6700 2 жыл бұрын
@Alex F That's reasonable, but I think there's a few problems with it. 1. Kyrie isn't going anywhere except LA. Kyrie has stated that he won't play anywhere else and his career shows that we should believe it. 2. Brooklyn probably won't agree to that anyways. That seems too light for both of them. I would love to see that and it probably would make Minnesota contenders, but I don't see it actually happening.
@NathanLGrossman
@NathanLGrossman 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that the majority of championships are won by teams with a top 15 player doesn't prove that you need to get someone who is ALREADY considered a top 15 player to win a championship. It may merely mean that AFTER winning a championship, the best player on a team tends to be considered part of the top 15.
@ahmedsuleman3157
@ahmedsuleman3157 2 жыл бұрын
All of those guys were considered top 10-12 before their first championship, so he does have a point.
@emandem2024
@emandem2024 2 жыл бұрын
Both fair points actually
@rodneycooperjr3223
@rodneycooperjr3223 2 жыл бұрын
Chicken or the egg, eh?
@jehushaphat
@jehushaphat 2 жыл бұрын
great point!
@jehushaphat
@jehushaphat 2 жыл бұрын
@@ahmedsuleman3157 Top 10-12 in your playing days? Top 10-12 in your heyday is a cry from top 15 in the last 50 years. Otherwise, guys like Malone Barkley Stockton Ewing Miller Webber Iverson ... would all be there.
@Mezukage27
@Mezukage27 2 жыл бұрын
I'd trade one star and 2 first rounders. Those first round picks are worthless with KD on the team anyways. Anything more is pushing. He's 34 and emotional in the off-season
@calebcicero7727
@calebcicero7727 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is the Nets want everything that would make the team that trades with them a contender
@michaelkapelis287
@michaelkapelis287 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing that the Nets destroyed their roster filled with good young players for nothing, essentially crippling their franchise for years to come. The starting 5 would have been: D-Lo, Dinwiddie, Harris, LaVert, and Allen.
@sgtslaughter573
@sgtslaughter573 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelkapelis287 you clowns keep bringing that old team up and it turned into kyrie kd and harden I'm sure 10 outta 10 is gonna take the second team you keep bringing up that trash 🤣
@MrJones019
@MrJones019 2 жыл бұрын
@@sgtslaughter573 agreed. What would be the ceiling of that team? A first round exit at best
@nassiglutt6587
@nassiglutt6587 2 жыл бұрын
​@@sgtslaughter573 well that team had been on to something untill they brought harden who was way over valued with that trade😭
@omnitheus5442
@omnitheus5442 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelkapelis287 they got everything for free lol. The team was destroyed a decade ago. The Nets are loaded with upcoming picks compared to where they were...
@brianchu8147
@brianchu8147 2 жыл бұрын
Part of me thinks they are asking for everything so they have an excuse to give both KD and Kyrie the finger and bring them back to the roster for training camp when no one is willing to pay up 🤣
@danielboston8806
@danielboston8806 2 жыл бұрын
KD proved he can’t win a chip as the leader of a team. KD lacked leadership, composure and defense.
@mikepanton
@mikepanton 2 жыл бұрын
they probably won't get much more than the Jazz got for Gobert because you can't trade everything and expect KD to win you a title
@omnitheus5442
@omnitheus5442 2 жыл бұрын
The Twolves were fools in that exchange. If they waited they could have gotten KD and perhaps Kyrie for those picks alone...
@randygraham926
@randygraham926 2 жыл бұрын
The Gobert trade was insane -- and I like Rudy -- but T-wolves are out of their minds. That's what you give up to get Kareem or Hakeem in their prime! -- not Rudy! Even for Jokic or Embiid ... it's a stretch. It's not clear it will work with KAT moving to power forward.😂 KAT is a great shooter but a bit of a bonehead.
@mikepanton
@mikepanton 2 жыл бұрын
@@omnitheus5442 why would the Nets trade KD for that when they could easily get at least Bridges and those picks instead. Wolves were never getting KD without Edwards
@mikepanton
@mikepanton 2 жыл бұрын
@@randygraham926 yeah i was shocked by it. That was similar to the AD deal...just lacking Ingram
@KleinpeterHank
@KleinpeterHank 2 жыл бұрын
KD has played 5 more games than Zion since Zion was drafted. Also, as long as Ben Simmons is on the Nets, the Pelicans actually can’t trade Zion to the Nets.
@timothyknutson2928
@timothyknutson2928 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't give up a lot for Durant he's not old but he's not like LeBron he can shoot so he can give you 20 a night until he's 40 but he can't lead a team to championship that's been proven time and time again
@132james1
@132james1 2 жыл бұрын
Lebron just averaged 30 points for the season at 38 years old lol you gotta quit taking skips takes to heart no way KD will average even close to 30 at 38 years old
@csababalog9702
@csababalog9702 2 жыл бұрын
He is finished, he can only win a championship if he goes to play with a top 5 player
@gspar116
@gspar116 2 жыл бұрын
Here’s the thing the fact is Brooklyn doesn’t have to trade KD he’s locked in for 4 years with no player option and if they don’t trade him what’s he going to do sit out and not play? It’s going to be a long 4 years if he decides he wants to do that he’s turning 34 this year these are the last years of him playing at his peak I doubt he wants to waste years 34-38 sitting down
@tanyaternowesky2221
@tanyaternowesky2221 2 жыл бұрын
Ok fair, but teams full of young talent never know if they have a guy that could turn into a top 20 player in the league. So trading 3 or 4 players who have unlimited potential for a 34 year old with a major injury in his history just doesn't make much sense to me.
@xcwilliams7980
@xcwilliams7980 2 жыл бұрын
If he's not showing flashes by 23, he's not it.
@alexjames4770
@alexjames4770 2 жыл бұрын
Ayton, Bridges, 6 picks and 5 pick swaps isn’t enough for KD? There’s a very real possibility KD’s contract is a bad deal in a year or 2, he’s signed until he’s 38 and he’s already shown signs of regression.
@charlyjimenez1304
@charlyjimenez1304 2 жыл бұрын
Why do people think KD guarantees a chip?!? I’m confused 🤔 besides his tenured in GS he has 1 Finals appearance & lost in the playoffs every year. THATS IN HIS PRIME!! Why would I mortgage my future for a 34 year old injury prone KD?!?
@metazeen
@metazeen 2 жыл бұрын
bUt bRo iTS Kd 😵‍💫
@xOubax
@xOubax 2 жыл бұрын
More disrespect for Scottie Barnes and the Raptors organization as a whole.
@ZuckerbergsAi
@ZuckerbergsAi 2 жыл бұрын
people still think Mobley is better than Barnes 😂 delusional
@DorseysResource
@DorseysResource 2 жыл бұрын
This is funny however Chris Broussard commentary makes the most sense and is always on point.
@anthonybarnes5143
@anthonybarnes5143 2 жыл бұрын
It cost too much to trade for kd, any team that does it is going to lose all its depth
@YelaDuck
@YelaDuck 2 жыл бұрын
KD is good but I still dont believe you break the bank on him. Just the stigma of last play offs.. Somebody will though .
@biggt0820
@biggt0820 2 жыл бұрын
I'm with Nick on the fact that if I'm giving you an all star level player, I'm only giving you 2 picks, max. As for his list, I think Brou took it wrong. I think he meant straight up talent for talent, plus factoring in age. I don't think he took current roster construction into it. If that's the case, I might disagree with a couple players on there, but I totally get it.
@prateshramjohn
@prateshramjohn 2 жыл бұрын
As with any NBA championship it comes down to luck and things breaking right for you. You could assemble the Allstar team and they aren't guaranteed success.
@Robert-sx9mm
@Robert-sx9mm 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@kylertatumtv9443
@kylertatumtv9443 2 жыл бұрын
All star team would win but I get what your saying for sure
@Robert-sx9mm
@Robert-sx9mm 2 жыл бұрын
@@kylertatumtv9443 that's not necessarily true.
@persistentlypathetic6820
@persistentlypathetic6820 2 жыл бұрын
@SamoaVsEverybody_814 you don't think adding TJ Warren, Royce O'neal and Ben Simmons will put them over the top?
@gugy68
@gugy68 2 жыл бұрын
If KD was 5 years younger and did not have that Achilles injury, then I can see the haul the Nets are expecting. They won’t get that with this version of KD.
@fashionlife5348
@fashionlife5348 2 жыл бұрын
KD age doesn’t Matter he is 33 he is a Skill based player not Athleticism he Is a guaranteed 30 ppg on Skill alone Noo player in the NBA has that Value efficiency and effectiveness doesn’t matter they Age
@mathewwhite100
@mathewwhite100 2 жыл бұрын
@@fashionlife5348 yeah but injuries will catch up when you get older. OB point is valid to me
@paulolima6407
@paulolima6407 2 жыл бұрын
The answer is NOOOO! Is KD a team player or only worried about KD? KD took a few lessons on BS from Kyrie. You don't win a chip alone! You gotta be a team player to win!
@stefansly1990
@stefansly1990 2 жыл бұрын
KD needed to be on a super team in his prime. His age was showing a bit in that Celtics series. He needs a super team for sure now.
@dominiquebrown2890
@dominiquebrown2890 2 жыл бұрын
Also remember he tore his Achilles. People forget that
@myishacausey6199
@myishacausey6199 2 жыл бұрын
@@dominiquebrown2890 because KD came back and played like the injury never happened.
@dracula7644
@dracula7644 2 жыл бұрын
Having KD doesn't guarantee any team a championship. So why give up younger talent. For him. I wouldn't.
@mike.cdn7212
@mike.cdn7212 2 жыл бұрын
His most recent injury definitely raises concerns. He's still valuable but not as much as some think.
@franklinkoonce4245
@franklinkoonce4245 2 жыл бұрын
Coach Deion Primetime Sanders is about to be legendary the Coach of JACKSON STATE TIGERS 🐅
@Quan1992
@Quan1992 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t trade Barnes for KD. Barnes is cheaper for longer n I got control of Barnes for 7-8 more years.
@p.bi1179
@p.bi1179 2 жыл бұрын
The Miami Heat are so underated its getting sad. Chris just said Butler and Bam for KD is a fair trade 😂 Ill take Butler over KD straight up
@mauricegary9940
@mauricegary9940 2 жыл бұрын
bold take but i gotta agree
@Cbrunning849
@Cbrunning849 2 жыл бұрын
Jimmy's one of my favorite players in the league and I like him way more then KD...but taking Jimmy over KD is wild
@mauricegary9940
@mauricegary9940 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cbrunning849 Jimmy led a team to the finals.. KD led a team to the finals (OKC) & im pretty sure if you add Jimmy to the warriors in 2017-2018, they’d still win it all.. therefore Jimmy & KD are on the same level
@mauricegary9940
@mauricegary9940 2 жыл бұрын
lead*
@Cbrunning849
@Cbrunning849 2 жыл бұрын
@@mauricegary9940 That's the most over simplified and flawed logic ever
@kaytwo_
@kaytwo_ 2 жыл бұрын
Kd would at best give you 50 games next year with significantly less defense then jaylen and his offense would take away from tatum. No i wouldnt do 34 year old kd for 25 year old jaylen. Prime kd yes but not now.
@TrippHartman
@TrippHartman 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome segment
@YER3721
@YER3721 2 жыл бұрын
Kyrie preLebron: 0 playoffs Kyrie after leaving Lebron: 17-18: Injured before playoffs, team is one quarter away from the finals (ECF game 7) without him. 18-19: Makes team worse, Historically bad series vs Bucks, shoots 30% FG and 18% 3PT, loses round 2, leaves team. (Giannis made more 3’s than Kyrie in series) 19-20: Plays 20 games with losing record, says team needs more help, shuts it down for season, Nets improve and make playoffs without him. 20-21: Injured in playoffs, loses round 2. Losing record without Harden all year. 21-22: Plays 20 games with losing record, gets swept first round and averages 15.3 PPG on 37% FG in the last 3/4 games. He would be a Stephon Marbury clone without Lebron, Harden, and Durant. FREE KD
@steezyvert4579
@steezyvert4579 2 жыл бұрын
Str8 fax
@darrickbeitinger7664
@darrickbeitinger7664 2 жыл бұрын
You’re just gonna drop this comment in every basketball video they post, huh?
@YY-wu7et
@YY-wu7et 2 жыл бұрын
Kyrie: worthless without Lebron KD: worthless without Steph Harden: worthless
@ryankayombya7576
@ryankayombya7576 2 жыл бұрын
@@YY-wu7etlol
@rayj.9568
@rayj.9568 2 жыл бұрын
No. Teams should leave KD alone to finish what he started with the Nets.
@Mektek19
@Mektek19 2 жыл бұрын
In the past 30 years you need at least a top 25 player to win a chip. Only one time has a team won without one and that's the Pistons in 2004. That may change once thus current crop retires but as it stands that is the barometer. The only player that looks like they are heading there is Luka maybe Tatum.
@fishbone3333
@fishbone3333 2 жыл бұрын
That Pistons team was the perfect storm of a bunch of very good players who played well together (and also played great defense) that went up against a dynasty in the Lakers that was already on the decline. When it comes to how teams need a transcendent superstar to win a championship, I wonder how much of this is chicken versus egg. The NBA is a superstar driven league and they are invested in superstars getting their chips and as such the games are refereed to reflect the league's interests.
@shanegindel7483
@shanegindel7483 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t say that you should need your head examined if you disagree with trading brown and picks for KD, KD just came off an chilled tear and will be 34 before the start of next season. This past season he missed time from injury as well. Brown has a much higher chance of playing 75+ games. Not to mention he plays better defense.
@jamespaulmacalipay6814
@jamespaulmacalipay6814 2 жыл бұрын
Kd's contract is untradeable
@MAJEOFFICIAL
@MAJEOFFICIAL 2 жыл бұрын
What Broussard said at 5:07 is all you need to know 🤷🏾‍♂️ that's why he's still on the market
@ipapi23
@ipapi23 2 жыл бұрын
Kevin Durant to the Knicks would be ill they have enough draft picks to do it
@andreward8268
@andreward8268 2 жыл бұрын
In our dreams ..... lol
@soraph-eljudaking4045
@soraph-eljudaking4045 2 жыл бұрын
Chris sounds like a nets pawn more and more everyday lol
@calmacalma4905
@calmacalma4905 2 жыл бұрын
No.
@johnsaville9210
@johnsaville9210 2 жыл бұрын
Broussard's analysis was spot on in this segment.
@bikesnippets
@bikesnippets 2 жыл бұрын
No, unless you have an excess of stars and picks like GSW had when they got him.
@SgtRobert-qb8kt
@SgtRobert-qb8kt 2 жыл бұрын
BROOKLYN NETS SHOULD START OVER AGAIN MOVE AWAY FROM KD AND KI THIS PLAYERS ARE WASHED UP PLAYERS THEY CONQUERED SO MUCH INJURIES
@damonke79
@damonke79 2 жыл бұрын
Break the bank for a soon to be 34 year old player who constantly waffles? Absolutely not. I'm a Suns fan and I would give Ayton/Bridges OR Johnson and a couple picks. That's it. Anything more and what's the point?
@leonardomoore1868
@leonardomoore1868 2 жыл бұрын
damonke79 butnyour good breaking the bank for a 7' center goebert who's stat line reads 10/10/3 and then disappears in the playoffs! Ok
@HGX1
@HGX1 2 жыл бұрын
​@@leonardomoore1868 who said he's okay with that? that Gobert trade was a massive fleecing.
@Jamal-lb6oj
@Jamal-lb6oj 2 жыл бұрын
I think KD knows how hard it would be to pull a trade for him so I doubt he really wants to be traded
@ricbradley5323
@ricbradley5323 2 жыл бұрын
Someone get my guy Nick some eye drops. Dude definitely had some fun last night.
@MrGontime11
@MrGontime11 2 жыл бұрын
Good point Broussard well said I agree 👏🏾💯
@pabloprigioni5905
@pabloprigioni5905 2 жыл бұрын
Giannis wouldn’t be a top 15 player if he hadn’t had won a championship, so technically bucks also won without a top 15 all time player
@anthonysmall6167
@anthonysmall6167 2 жыл бұрын
Another episode in this sitcom🤣🤣
@Tocoolant
@Tocoolant 2 жыл бұрын
This is crazy.. historically speeking you need a top 5 player in the league to win a championship. I would bet on a 3 years stretch of tries with KD over any player on this list aside of Curry, Luka and Giannis. Embiid and Jokic are great but this is a guard oriented league. Tatum floped on this finals on a way I wouldn't see KD flopping. Memphis at certain point was playing better without Ja and Zion is very enjury prone. Mobley and Edwards I'm not even going to discuss. If I was on Minesota entourage and I would know for a fact that the GM declined a trade of Edwards for KD I would call the cops.
@blockcl
@blockcl 2 жыл бұрын
The use of draft picks as trade assets is going to be a big issue in the next CBA negotiations. Curtailing this practice is one way owners can curb their own worst impulses when pursuing megastars and control top end player movement.
@kostastube2010
@kostastube2010 2 жыл бұрын
Any team that makes a ridiculous trade for KD, will be lucky to get into the playoffs.
@randygraham926
@randygraham926 2 жыл бұрын
First time Warriors got Durant, it was a free agent signing. They had to trade Andrew Bogut away to make room for Durant's salary but otherwise they didn't have to give up players. This time they would have to give up Wiggins -- who played great in the finals -- & Kuminga, etc. to get him. Wiggins is just 27 and not having health issues. And a better defender. Durant at 34, with recent injury issues and a questionable attitude, is probably not the right choice for the Warriors who have great chemistry and just won a title without KD.
@myishacausey6199
@myishacausey6199 2 жыл бұрын
Warriors emptied their entire bench for KD. In 2017. What are you talking about.
@mconner262
@mconner262 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone keeps saying players controlling their destination is a bad thing. I don't think I agree, yet. All other sports work this way and I am interested in what these teams look like 10 years from now. The skill difference is also closing and a league expansion will be needed soon. My guess, 8 years.
@traleroy5625
@traleroy5625 2 жыл бұрын
Durant ain’t worth that much we seen him when the pressure is on and he’s 33
@theone6189
@theone6189 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best takes from your ol buddy Kevin wildes lol
@talmanes4589
@talmanes4589 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of people, including the Nets and many fans, want to act like this is prime KD from 4-5 years ago on the trading block. It isn't. This is an aging, post major injury KD on the trading block.
@kingabinative1
@kingabinative1 2 жыл бұрын
The first guy makes a great point, wow.
@Michigan_dad
@Michigan_dad 2 жыл бұрын
Just let him sit. The NBA won’t miss KD if he never played again. KD has a bigger future off the court.
@artimp152
@artimp152 2 жыл бұрын
Broussard nailed it. KD is not worth it... To win, He needs whatever would be traded. Nick makes good points - i'd also never trade BI..
@cmoney1818
@cmoney1818 2 жыл бұрын
Can we stop mentioning how many games KD played vs kyrie when he was injured the first season its pushing a false narrative.. kyrie been sitting regards of his health.
@lessonlearned232
@lessonlearned232 2 жыл бұрын
KD is already declining. You can tell because younger players are now able to hold him 1 on 1.
@andreward8268
@andreward8268 2 жыл бұрын
I thought Curry was declining I thought LeBron was declining BTW: also played for the USA Basketball last summer... remember that Gold Medal? KD is still one of the top 5 current player
@MillennialRabbi
@MillennialRabbi 2 жыл бұрын
this was a really good convo. The Nets might just have to take the best offer even if it disappoints them
@kaytwo_
@kaytwo_ 2 жыл бұрын
If you have to trade your two best players and 5 firsts to get durant. Then durant has no trade value
@fridayvan-defoe6987
@fridayvan-defoe6987 2 жыл бұрын
I love Chris Broussard's takes. Even if you don't agree with everything he says, you appreciate and respect the reasoning behind his arguments. So interesting a while back when First Take begun, Skip accused him of having "sold his soul"/ Journalist Integrity, because he was defending Lebron. Turns out Skip was talking about himself.
@crazytrain111
@crazytrain111 2 жыл бұрын
The CAVS can afford KD and maintain a great roster. Why is nobody discussing this? Check the trade machine. Evan Mobley, Kevin Love, Okoro and Osman for Durant and Joe Harris. The Cavs roster is Garland - Levert - KD - Markkanen - Allen. Sexton - Harris - Rubio off the bench
@booknikYT
@booknikYT 2 жыл бұрын
He's not taking a team by himself very far. So no.
@ThereGoRone
@ThereGoRone 2 жыл бұрын
I'd trade Mobley & Zi too for injury issues straight up for KD
@jamesbingham1007
@jamesbingham1007 2 жыл бұрын
Golden State. It's the only trade that makes sense for both teams and the player asking to be traded. Kinda poetic.
@aws21st
@aws21st 2 жыл бұрын
No just because you get KD does not give you a ticket to a conference finals. I don't understand why the sports media do not say this. There are only few players in history who can carry a team without a legitimate 2 and 3 player with chemistry. Because teams are not going to break the Bank for 15 year fragile emotional physical KD The Nets must tell KD we cannot make it happen.
@nathanzimmermann4122
@nathanzimmermann4122 2 жыл бұрын
Since 1990’s every NBA dynasty has run the triangle. Bulls, bulls, Lakers, GS. In fact over the past 32 NBA seasons 15 of the winning teams ran the triangle. So nearly 50% of teams over a 30 plus year window who won the NBA championship ran the triangle……. And that number will continue to grow.
@thedeifiedjulius2310
@thedeifiedjulius2310 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t trade Booked straight up for KD either.
@marcuscarpenter7230
@marcuscarpenter7230 2 жыл бұрын
Let me know what you think but I can’t think of a team that should pursue trading for kd that’s realistic
@skl5838
@skl5838 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope Joe Lacob DOES NOT trade Wiggins, Poole, Kuminga & Wiseman or any other GSW player for KD. I saw the way the Celtics overwhelmed KD by way of defense in this 2021 season playoffs. IMO I feel KD works best as a #2 behind a #1 who plays as great as KD does but is a true leader. If GSW trades for him it will be a betrayal of GSW's honor & integrity in their desire to win now, plus their recklessness in ignoring that KD is now very prone to injury...
@Osei_Bean_8ryant
@Osei_Bean_8ryant 2 жыл бұрын
I'd trade Mobley or Tatum for KD
@robertjones8260
@robertjones8260 2 жыл бұрын
I would absolutely trade Tatum or Mobley for KD. Tatum seems to be a player destined to be on the border of greatness, but never quite getting there.
@brucemoody2539
@brucemoody2539 2 жыл бұрын
I like that 15 list
@TayyDay
@TayyDay 2 жыл бұрын
Who tf is OG Anunobu?
@SkipBaylessBurner
@SkipBaylessBurner 2 жыл бұрын
Nick’s list was crazy 😂😭
@jcsuperstar4646
@jcsuperstar4646 2 жыл бұрын
Broussard needs to stop with the “it’s guaranteed you win a chip with KD” nonsense. Way too many variables can prevent that from happening
@noloc4246
@noloc4246 2 жыл бұрын
This is definitely, absolutely, positively one of the best in depth takes we've seen in a while. This was very thought out, and very detail oriented. Thanks.
@donvolio4089
@donvolio4089 2 жыл бұрын
The kind of return Brooklyn is asking for is WAAAAYYYYYY out of reach. Nobody is giving away their future for an aging superstar who doesn’t commit to a team.
@nfrancis11
@nfrancis11 2 жыл бұрын
Is KD still in his prime? Maybe or at the end of it. Thing is he is a depreciating asset at 34 years old. Doesn't make sense giving up the farm for him. Need depth to win it all. That's why golden state got lucky. All they had to do was make the numbers work because they added him instead of trading for him.
@johnmcmanus1430
@johnmcmanus1430 2 жыл бұрын
Keep jaylen we don't need Durant
@jimmyconway6080
@jimmyconway6080 2 жыл бұрын
Dirk should be ahead of KD on the top 50 list
@SiFuSus
@SiFuSus 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I would trade Jason Tatum for KD, and not Jalen Brown. Not that it's a popular opinion. I feel you would give up less if you were Boston if you did that trade.
@tadgers4
@tadgers4 2 жыл бұрын
I would trade Zion straight up for KD, but I pre8much agree with Nick. KD will be 34. He can't lead, and if he isn't euphorically happy he will bounce in half a heartbeat.
@alexnguyen1284
@alexnguyen1284 2 жыл бұрын
no team should break the bank for KD or Kyrie at this point. The nets gave them everything and look what happened.
@Criminal.Lawyer.2024
@Criminal.Lawyer.2024 2 жыл бұрын
No way. Kevin can't stay put. Leaving the GSW showed me Kevin will never be happy on any team. Then Brooklyn broke the bank and he's ditching them. Kevin Durant has become too much like Kyrie Irving...so there is just no way I'm taking the chance of ruining my franchise.
@kerke4639
@kerke4639 2 жыл бұрын
I think the only team that should go for this move is the Blazers in December. Dame is 30 and the chances of getting another star committed to play there that plays at that level is so low. I think they have to break the bank to get him and KD on the same roster to make runs while they are still both in their primes. I really don’t see any other team giving up that much. Especially teams with young stars as their best players which the Nets would want. I also think that if KD isn’t traded by then, the Blazers have a chance to test Anfernee and Sharpe on the court with Dame. I think depending in how they look, the could trade for KD. If they look like an actual team that can go deep, than don’t trade for him but if they look nice but they’re still at best a 2nd round exit, just go on with the deal.
@HypocritesExposd
@HypocritesExposd 2 жыл бұрын
No simply because KD has shown no loyalty. Whoever breaks the bank will only get to see KD leave a short time later
@cavemanyogi150
@cavemanyogi150 2 жыл бұрын
Putting KD over Dirk all time is laughable.
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