Fishing Knot Testing - What's the best Braid to Leader knot?

[@YamadooMeawiwoole]

Very consistent results

[@paula.2422]

Fantastic video!!! This was very well done 👏 👍

[@danboutdoors4584]

The consistency you got in the breaks for each knot shows how much you have perfected tying that particular knot to how you tie it. Well done!

[@freemansame8062]

FG all the way and this is my favorite fishing line test channel 👍

[@crissmith7087]

Best fishing line testing channel on KZbin and best explanation and gets to the point 10/10 for your efforts mate 👏👏

[@thelinelaboratory]

Thanks 👍

[@ronmb81]

I had a feeling the FG knot would come out on top, great testing 👍🏼

[@nazeem5400]

FG is the best if done properly, I use it and it never unravels or break at the knot 💪🎣

[@klamont9]

Great video. And remember, “a lot” is two words. Seeing that over and over at the end was 😂

[@dspivey4284]

I have to admit, I was guilty of this for YEARS.

[@wadepatton2433]

@@dspivey4284 Alot of years! 🤣

[@dspivey4284]

@@wadepatton2433a wholelot!

[@mojobrown33]

Excellent video. I’ve been using double uni knot and now it looks like I need to teach myself the FG. Thanks

[@jimmycburfield5997]

Excellent The knots certainly seemed very well tied to me. I struggle with FG and would struggle in the field to tie it. The Alberto knot is sort of my go to. The Uni-knot I indeed find easy to tie BUT I didn’t think it was as good Thanks for doing this and sharing It’s very interesting and helpful

[@midmissouriangling]

That is about the most scientific method I've seen used to test knots. Lots of variables as you said. Practice.

[@EthosAtheos]

First test I've seen where someone tested the knot and not the anchor to the test platform. Excellent job with testing and amazing test rig.

[@catim]

Greatly appreciate the time to do this! Mahalo

[@valyvaly3592]

For heavy fishing always FG knot...its simply the best,very good job my friend

[@OregonFishingAdventures]

ill gladly accept 3rd place for the alberto knot its my personal go to knot for braid to mono and ive never had issues with it i started FG knots with braid when i first did bumpers but it takes so long and is not exactly easy to do on the bank when you have to completely redo a set up so i choose the alberto knot for its speed and strength i had done the double uni knot before and had issues but the alberto knot never seems to fail me so im happy with it

[@diemos322jones9]

Yep. It's fast and easy to learn. I spend a good amount of time changing lures out, looking for bass.

[@Larry77777]

@@diemos322jones9 Further to your comment about changing lures out, looking for bass, I like to pre-tie (with Palomar knot) a size 0 Mustad dual lock snap to the 10lb and 16lb fluoro leaders I use for bass fishing, so I can change lures out much faster than retying the lures. BTW I always tie Alberto knot for braid to leader (and do it at home before leaving for the water).

[@orangef3802]

The best fishing related channel out there!

[@TomMendoladrums]

As usual EXCELLENT testing! I have confidence in the FG. The knot has never broken on me. It has been a break below the knot. You’re right, PRACTICE!

[@thomasbaytarian3342]

I use the FG solely. I don't do the ricotta finish lol. My line never breaks at the knot.

[@wilyfisherman3953]

Excellent video. From a QA/QC background, your application and method looked sound to me.

[@RStout59]

Glad to see someone using real testing equipment, not buckets of water, tug of war, etc. Unfortunately, Warren duToit across the pond stopped his knot testing. Check him out sometime.

[@thelinelaboratory]

I have watched quite a bit of their stuff and it's great. But yeah they have seemed to of dropped off lately

[@51ddb]

Informative and helpful. I’m pleased with the performance of the Alberto and will stick with it. Thanks!

[@imanibrahim6268]

Me too mate. Its the fastest knot i cld tie up in a minute. I also usually let the drag on my Vanford do a lot of the work. 60% I'll take it.

[@51ddb]

@@imanibrahim6268 that’s what drag is for….. and the Vanford can take. Great reels.

[@KissmyBasss]

For short leaders 10' or less I started using the super easy Surgeons knot. 4 wraps, no spit, no nonsense. Tight lines!

[@ioijiopjkiopjkp]

If you're tying braid to mono then that knot will be pretty weak, the braid digs into the mono.

[@KissmyBasss]

Fluorocarbon. I caught an 8-3 the first time trying it. 15 braid to 12 leader

[@L0st-n0found]

I've been using mostly Albright (not improved) knot since before it existed.. Cam up on my own when braid first came to market in USA and it's never failed me. I have used a few other knots recommended but always come back due to speed, thinness and no failure. Fg knot just takes too much time. I used to burn the tag ends decades ago but gave up. I periodically will use glue over.

[@gavinmurphy3912]

awesome. thanks for proving and having proof that the FG is the best

[@moratheexplorer5791]

I become FG knot believer since i know this knot, never disappointed me.

[@deefa_damo]

Another great testing video - thanks. I always use the FG if I have time to tie it, with a braid-doubled alberto as an on-water backup. Good to know that the alberto is > 60% breaking strain.

[@otklfnz]

Great video explaining where tue knot breaks. You get an understanding or more reasons why I have ended up using an FG for all

[@FiishOn]

I had missed this video… I did a lot of tests on my own years ago. I had abandoned the double unit knot and the Albright due to significant loss of strength and poor passage through the guides. I’ve been using the FG for more than 10 years now. By the way, I don’t see anyone talking about this, but like you, I had many questions and did tests to understand it. One of those questions was why a knot goes through the guides well or poorly. I realized that there’s something more important than the knot itself. In fact, even with micro FG knots, it sometimes went through very poorly. It’s actually quite simple: it’s just a matter of the flexibility of the fluoro compared to the braid. If there’s too much difference in stiffness between the two, for example, very stiff 29/100 fluoro against an 8-strand PE 0.8 braid, the difference in flexibility is huge and creates an incompatibility. If you switch to an extra-flexible nylon of the same diameter, the knot will pass much more easily and snap a lot less. The ideal is to have nylon as flexible and as thin as possible.

[@thelinelaboratory]

Really great point!

[@TerrySprey]

That was a very detailed description of these knots. Thank you for your test. I have been watching videos on this subject your test confirmed that the FG knot was the go to knot

[@girmt]

This deserves millions of views..thanks for the effort and for that,u got a new subscriber!!

[@billroberts4765]

Great video. Thanks for sharing your work.

[@marclafontaine5615]

Very well made video and testing, but for most if not all bass fishermen out there, I would suggest using a leader size that is smaller then the braid, preferably what is most commonly used, like 20lb braid on 12 lb leader. THAT would be interesting (although FG will win) and more realistic. Thanks.

[@EthosAtheos]

I was thinking this same thing. The FG has not been my go to when attaching a 6lb leader to 8lb braid. Because the knot doesn't hold well with such thin materials. Best knot I've found so far was the double surgeon's knot. Everything else slipped and untied under tension.

[@pmm422]

@@EthosAtheos interesting I've been using the Alberto knot on my 20lb braid to 12lb leader and have only had the knot fail before the leader on one occasion 100's of times the leader breaks at the lure tie on but the leader knot nearly always holds. I'll pay a lot closer attention to the lighter lines though thanks for sharing.

[@FurtherNorth]

Is it safe to assume you mean "lower breaking strength" and not "smaller"? The former makes sense, for a lot of reasons. The latter - meaning diameter - would be virtually impossible for any practical application.

[@marclafontaine5615]

@@FurtherNorth I mean lighter line, and the leader is always lighter than the main line, is it not? Maybe some experts out there that have different opinion. But most would agree, I think.. Most people would have, for example, a 20 lb braid with a 10-12 leader. Or 60 lb braid with 20 lb leader. I want to see someone (I'm not asking you personally) to make a video where they actually use the real line on light line, like a 12 lb braid on 6 or 8 lb line, instead of using cords to show how to make the knots. We can all make those knots with fat cords, that's not the point. The point is how do you do it with mini-line you can barely see and that won't fold over so easily like a fat cord will do.

[@marclafontaine5615]

@@pmm422 I love the alberto as well, most practical and quick while I'm on the boat, but trying to master the FG as I know it's better, albeit slightly.

[@redtobertshateshandles]

This is why I keep my old Stradics with two spools. If I bust off, I just change the spool. And keep fishing. FG all the way.

[@rob978978]

You did good mate, thank you for all the videos. very interesting.

[@jeffrow297]

Just subscribed!! Maybe a video testing spliceable hollow core in the future? And the final comments is great advice, thank you.

[@The_Shepherd90]

thanks for all tests you do for us, keep going!

[@VinhBui-nc1dg]

Best video for testing line. Thanks a lot bro!

[@MrLagerblad]

Excellent execution. I use Alberto as its works “good enough” and is fairly easy to do when waded out.

[@mub3ady]

excellent video, professional technique and methodology, I only wish that you included the SC knot in the tests. thank you

[@gaago83]

Glad I found this channel. Great job preparing and administering the tests. I express my deep gratitude. Please continue your work so that both you and we can learn new things and learn new details about how to improve our equipment.

[@Bakamojo]

Seems like a strong case for if you aren’t using a perfectly tied FG your better off using thinner lower lb line and going straight mono or floro

[@glenntomlinson2834]

Thanks that was very informative, I would love to see if this holds true (I expect it will) if the two lines have similar diameters (maybe braid/braid). Would also be awesome to see a slowmo side view. Great work thanks as always!

[@ofacefan]

Fg is great but only if you get it right, I've had too many slip but can tie the Alberto much more consistent so best knot for me is the one I can trust and tie

[@magwamagwa45110]

well done

[@diemos322jones9]

Alberto is my go-to. Never had any issues with it, ever!

[@finnafishfl]

This is meaningless. FG is stronger lol Alberto is okay in a pinch

[@andersriksson100]

Alberto is too bulky thru my tiny guides (might be microguides)

[@Valetic6]

@@andersriksson100 I don’t run into that problem until I get to about 12 pound test for my leader. There is a way to improve though, to that end, by adding half hitches. It’s always the tag end that gets caught on the guide and that’s one simple method to counter this a bit.

[@andersriksson100]

@@Valetic6 It's a balance. I mostly fish perch and Zander/walleye. I usually go with 15 lb because of smaller northern pike in the waters I fish. A 15 lb will usually (but not always) hold enough for me to land and release. If I loose a bait I either change location or go thin steel 1/2' leader and then FC.

[@Valetic6]

@@andersriksson100 I wish we had pike and perch here in GA. I only bass fish, but if I want to take home a haul, I go with 4lb fluoro and turn the drag way down - targeting bluegill, crappie, and eating size bass and catfish. Not much to fish down here locally. I have a Jon Boat and go to a 250 acre reservoir 10 minutes away connected to the Chattahoochee, and a couple other spots around sneak a cast from the banks.

[@CutbaitOnly]

I pulled a good size Tarpon with a double uni knot

[@stoyasmussen5831]

Nice test and I have to learn the FG !

[@Русский-о2ш]

thanks for all tests !!!

[@justgoofingoff]

Been using the uni 2 uni for years, i can count on one hand the number times its failed. I wrap braid 10x and leader 8x.

[@khaliqnabeebuccas4390]

Excellent and informative video. Validates my go to knot ie the FG knot . Just a query: Here in South Africa we tie the double uni by doubling the braid first and then tying the knot with 8 turns of the doubled braid and 4 turns of the fluorocarbon. I know many fishermen who swear by this knot. Perhaps you can test this. It would be great to know the strength of this knot.

[@FurtherNorth]

I love the FG knot and I use it for braid to mono, braid to fluorocarbon, and braid to coated multi-strand wire bite guard...but it doesn't work on single strand uncoated nickel-titanium bite guard...the wraps have nothing to dig into. It also doesn't work for a mono main line to a wire bite guard of any kind at the line sizes I use. I use the Alberto Knot for those.

[@duncansmith536]

How about testing the yucatan knot and the triple surgeons knot. These are easy and quick for older folks with not so nimble fingers and not so great vision to tie in the boat in a hurry. Also the slim beauty knot which is what I use when i retie at home with plenty of light and no wind. But, watching these tests I am probably going to switch to an Alberto knot. I am also thinking you will probably test terminal knots in the future.

[@te2934]

There is an improved version of the Alberto where before tightening the knot on the final loop you wrap through the eye 3 times.

[@ManlyBalls1946]

All these knots has its own place on when best to use them. Especially when efficiency is taken into account. I still use my double uni when the bite is hot. But avoid it when i need to cast thick leaders.

[@TyCampbell666]

hola all my fg's lol 😂 also a lighter to melt the tag of the fg leader tag to a cup shape helps reduce line catching on rod eyes 👍 moisten lines first 👍

[@CioataRobertAndrei]

Thanks for sharing with us👍

[@MatthewHammerCFI]

I use the alberto knot for freshwater fishing. With a 15lb flouro leader I have never had the knot fail. The leader always snaps first on bad snags. I can also tie it off in 1 minute, vs the FG which usually takes a few tries and a bit of swearing to get it right. I'd like to see this test done over with a more normal strength leader for freshwater/bass fishing. Having thin braid tied to a thick leader like that is going to have a significant impact on the integrity of the knot. It makes sense that the FG came out ahead in this test, though, since it is more suited to tying off on thicker leader line.

[@thelinelaboratory]

When I was planning this test, I started with a much lighter leader but the leader kept snapping in the middle of the knot. I had to up the leader strength until it was just stronger than the braid and the samples you see in this test are the results of a lot of testing. The goal of this test was to test the braid knot strength so I couldn't let the leader fail first.

[@DiegoGDSoignie]

Gran trabajo,gracias por el video.❤

[@adventures_yoie]

i’ve done similar test at home , ow outcomes are similar, fg knot is my go to if i’m in a rush 6x surgeon knot (30% less then fg) ,followed by the double uni 55% below fg breaking strain.

[@saintmartinfireangler2401]

Thank you for this very informative video.

[@Stefano--]

Thanks for all that work, you can see that's all done very seriously. Now I wonder the differences while using lighter lines, like a 12/16 lb fc leader. My guess is that the % gap between the knots will be minor, like the "poor" performance with the double uni is due to the big diameter of the fluoro squeezing hard on the braid

[@abdrahmanabdullah3113]

Thank you bro for sharing.

[@nazeem5400]

Fg all the way ,my one and only knot thin and extremely strong if done properly 💪🎣tight lines

[@Mouldyturnip75]

Would love to see close-ups of the knots during the testing. Otherwise, awesome!

[@aresze7083]

Love the tests! Any chance of testing shock vs regular leaders? Like shock nylon leader and shock fluoro leader against non shock variants? Seems like there’s an increase in pushing shock leaders in the current market. Sometimes it feels like a scam/marketing hype.

[@thelinelaboratory]

Yeah that's definitely an interesting one that we will look into.

[@ShragaMiFishingForTheSoul]

Thanks for this test

[@beebumbling]

I'd love to see a knot-tying shootout vid between a few people who think they tie the best versions of these knots. A test of technique (and skill?). Great test vid here btw

[@thelinelaboratory]

Funny you say that, I have been working through an idea that is along those lines.

[@beebumbling]

@@thelinelaboratory Awesome! I look forward to seeing what you come up with

[@ultimatejay]

Every testing I have seen the PR came out on top . Interesting this one showed the FG.

[@uber_l]

Amazing test. One thought, that maybe with these kind of strong thick lines it is hard to put a lot of tension before half hitch, maybe only if a man is a bodybuilder, I believe it is possible to do more than 90% on fg. x4 braids seem to work better for me, especially braid to monofilament. Also, many years ago I spent all day with ygk x3 to swivel knots . And one time got 100% but it was double lined clinch with 25 or 26 wraps. (Pe 0.25 or 0.6 can't remember)

[@gunthartv1645]

Not to be a debby downer but it looks like your using rubber tubing or something of the sort to tie the line around which would then add give to the line increasing the lbs that the line would break at just a heads up. Very informative either way thanks for the vid!

[@DanielBoone337]

I'm definitely a FG knot guy but I like the SC as well... I'm assuming the PR knot is basically the SC knot from what I can tell??? I can tie the SC faster then the FG so when I'm rigging up before I go fishing I tie the FG but if I have to tie up a new leader on the water I normally tie the SC... Pretty cool video man I like that you're using equipment that is more consistent then other methods I've saw on KZbin.

[@bottomphishing7377]

Great video.

[@auggyboy284]

Awesome information

[@aquaholiklee]

You should have emailed me. I could have told you that a simple 20 wraps up and 20 wraps down PR knot is going to be weak. Not necessary because it's 20 wraps. But it's because the initial underwraps needs to be widely spaced out and not tightly barrel wraps. Tight barrel underwrap PR knot is no where near as strong as widely spaced underwraps. There's so many way to tie a weak PR knot on KZbin but not many way to tie a weak FG knot. But you illustrated a point. Even if you widely spaced the underwraps, a short PR knot is not stronger than the same length FG knot. The FG knot strength is not stronger the longer it is. Going past 15 wraps up and 15 wraps down leads to diminishing return and sometime negative return. The PR knot in 20lbs braid(40lb+ actual breaking strength) generally needs about 2 inches to achieve 80%+ strength. Longer is better but only if properly wrapped. Look up Team Yeehaa PR knot. Your FG knot is extremely good. But it's also line dependent. Most 20 lbs braid that test around 36-40 lbs generally have less than 80% knot strength. Bottom line is, braided line generally overtest 50-100% over the labeled strength. Even a granny knot that test 50% is still testing close to the labeled strength as you've shown. 20 lbs knot breaking strength seems to be plenty for most people and most situations, especially when using lighter leader line. Slow pitch jig folks needs the thinnest and strongest line possible tied to a heavier leader so they do need every bit of strength that a PR knot can give them which is generally 90%+ when properly tied with a longer length. You will definitely don't want to cast that long knot thru your rod guides. That's why an FG knot is more practical for 90% of the situation while giving you generally more knot strength than your drag can handle. Good luck going down this rabbit hole to educate the public. You're doing a great job that is very time consuming.

[@kizzjd9578]

I do 7 wraps each side on my fg and its plenty.

[@thelinelaboratory]

Thanks Lee - invaluable comments as always. Like you said there are so many way to tie knots, like the PR, that without years of experience to know exactly what works and what doesn't, OR spending countless hours testing every permutation back to back its hard to know what to believe. I acknowledge that I may be a little biased based on that exact fact, I do have years of FG experience and had enough failures (and tested enough as part of this channel) to know what works and what doesn't, so generally I can tie it reasonably well, and I absolutely know what techniques can destroy an otherwise solid FG.

[@aquaholiklee]

@@thelinelaboratory you have excellent analytical skills. The more you test knots to destruction, the more you'll understand what makes knots strong. I had many great teachers on 360tuna and I was lucky enough to be given an instrument to test out their theory. Slow lockup and load sharing is key when going down the knot testing rabbit hole. It's fun to maximize a thin line's full strength but you already know that worn line lose 10-20% strength. Fortunately the FG and PR is so strong that even losing that 10-20%, it's still plenty strong during actual fishing conditions.

[@Jojo61973]

When I started spinning and jigging a guy told me PR knot is the best knot. I did not care. After some time I tried it and was amazed that if you try to brake it the line never breaks from the knot.and although is a bit long it is super smooth

[@ShinkiZer0]

I hope some Japanese folks release the proper way of doing PR knot and the newer version of it. I was lucky enough to be tought in a slow pitch seminar recently and got to tie it. Its a PR knot with a modified way to end it. It grips and stretches that will give you more than 100% knot due to the stretch. This was tested over over with a scale as well. 30lb jbraid on 50lb varivas floro leader breaking at 60lbs +-. And whats impressive is monoleadet will even give you better results. 125%+- knot strength. We cudnt take any video as the speaker was afiliated with Japanese company Deepliner.

[@Bikertrash1955]

Great video!! Thanks!!

[@Sir_Defyable]

Oh hell yea KZbin finally recommends me a channel I want to see more of! Any other braid comparison chart I’ve seen has Yo-Zuri Superbraid making all other braids look weak, pretty please add that to your testing? I’ll send you some new spools of the line if you want me to!

[@thelinelaboratory]

Yes i have just received some Yo-Zuri samples so we will test it soon.

[@gpurcell9424]

Great test ! thanks for taking the time and effort on this one ! Would you expect different results using a lighter fluro or mono as the leader?

[@thelinelaboratory]

Its possible, but hard to say for sure unless its tested. I believe Toit may of done a series of tests on different weight lines.

[@aryahanafi9355]

Try testing relix knot, one of the famous knot that used in Indonesia

[@jsmith7790]

well done, thank you.

[@vizionsys]

Good test sir. May I ask, did you try a 5 wrap leader/10wrap braid for the dbl uni? The uni numbers seem very low. Also, I hope you plan on following this up with a test with nylon instead of fluorocarbon. Something like a Platypus hard armour or Schneider would be lovely to see. Thanks for your work!

[@andrewmorke]

Please test the four-turn spider hitch sometime.

[@Silly_fishing_penguin]

Surely double uni with more wraps would be better, I usually do 6-10 each side but I have found that it breaks easy if there is a big difference in diameter of the leader to braid

[@sonicsurfer4994]

Please add a test of the Yucatan knot

[@craune-l2y]

Спасибо!! Это было очень интересно!!

[@marioscarpuzza9810]

Very nice and interesting this one. Great job. I did noticed that for the double uni know you made only 3 leader loops and braid 5. I use to make 9 loops on the braid and 6 in the leader ,and i use this knot with 8 pound braid and 10 pound leader just for not very big fish ,Trout, Australian Salmon, and stuff like that. Said that could you please try this one just to see how does it goes??? Ps:for serious fish i use the FG knot and never had a problem so far...thanks in advance 😊

[@deancornett73]

Great video, would you mind doing one on loop knots with light line?

[@stevegray4012]

Thanks for another great vid

[@alfonsogarzon7291]

You should link a tutorial or upload a video of your way of doing the fg knot

[@thelinelaboratory]

I may do a quick video on this if I get some time

[@alfonsogarzon7291]

@@thelinelaboratory It would be amazing. You can do KZbin shorts about it (I prefer videos over shorts but it would be a nice way of integrating those kind of videos in your channel). I love your channel and I am talking about it to all my friends here in Spain :)

[@micado4k976]

Excellent tests, is it possible to test "yucatan knot" and "surgeon knot"?

[@MrCami2]

Dear Sirs, thank you very much for sharing your test: it's a really well performed test, following a good metrological scheme ... perhaps 3 times are not a real good sample size, for instance in SPC the usual sampling requires 5 measures, but I appreciate your efforts. I regret, as angler, only one thing: you did not test the SC knot and several Japanese tests have already demonstrated that SC knot is stronger than FG one, furthermore SC knot is easier and quicker to tie ... would you like try it, please?

[@csmith80]

FG Knot for me when I am rigging at home and Alberto Knot on the water!

[@supafly1982]

That's pretty much the same as me. At the car or home FG, when I'm fishing Alberto just for quickness sakes, however since using the pinky wrap method my FG is getting quicker

[@erikdog2430]

Its one thing tyin a knot at home, and doin a knot on rocks with waves splashin on ya. The Alberto knot (or slight variation) is simple to tie for me in those circumstances, and does the job.

[@waterratfishing1648]

The best knot is one you can tie well

[@redtobertshateshandles]

Practice.

[@thelinelaboratory]

Couldn't agree more, pick one that works for you and practice it. An average FG will be likely worse than something else that's tied perfectly.

[@_1COR15.1-4]

Thanks ❤

[@TylerKTanaka]

Was the PR tied with a bobbin under tension (such as using a Shimano or Beiter bobbin) or by hand and then cinched under tension? I find it difficult to believe that a PR tied with a bobbin properly would break inside the knot. If tied by hand wrapping the line (not under tension) and then cinching, this explains why the braid bit into itself and broke in the knot. A properly tied PR with bobbin is 100% the strength of the lines it is securing and will most likely break on or near the spool.

[@rogerwiebe4013]

These results came out pretty much as I would expect with a 60lb leader. Most guys in my area are running 6 - 8 lb flouro on that 20lb braid. It's a lot more difficult for the braid to dig into that thin flouro. Have any tests been done with specs closer to mine?

[@thelinelaboratory]

Not yet but using a lighter leader than braid is another series of tests I am looking to perform

[@-MAX813-]

Would have liked to see the blood knot in there too.

[@tonchido]

Blood knot is weakest,always unties

[@lishihwayne]

How about SC knot? It’s a popular knot as well as FG❤

[@gypana]

It seems as though they are giving the breaking strain of the knots rather then the line itself.

[@nathanborja4532]

Can u also give a test result to a braid to braid knot...

[@rhysharvey2121]

Pr and FG ARE BOTH GREAT, JUST THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE BOBBIN FOR PR OTHERWISE YOU LOSE A LOT OF STRENGTH IN THE KNOT.

[@yuriyordanov1761]

Please try these Knots For swivel ......

[@floods0ftears]

It would be nice to see the same test but using fluoro that is weaker than the braid

[@thelinelaboratory]

Yes absolutely, that's a different but equally valid test. I have plans to do that exact test at some stage. This was purely testing the best knot for when braid is the weakest link.

[@floods0ftears]

@@thelinelaboratory wow I'm eagerly waiting to see that test, thank you sir!