Fit Men vs Fit Women | Middle Ground

[@jubilee]

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[@vmadhavan435]

My grandpa threw a bulldozer on me

[@AnimationDunk]

@@vmadhavan435 lmaooo

[@Almond9383]

Idgaf

[@DanceWithTrump]

There's a reason why a lot of those conversations was contradicted to themselves, I think they might be afraid of getting cancelled lol

[@DavidKozdra]

In the description , video and comments y'all having money problems ?

[@420yaboi3]

You should do an episode where you put real nutritionists vs tiktok "nutritionists"

[@CarysCreatesThings]

Registered dietitians vs TikTok “nutritionists” would be better. Nutritionist isn’t a regulated profession, so anyone can technically call themselves a “nutritionist”. In contrast, to be a dietitian, you need a minimum of a masters degree and to be registered with the Health & Care Professions Council.

[@kelseyevers3320]

@@CarysCreatesThings FYI there are licensed nutritionists and certified nutrition specialists - people who have master’s degrees in nutrition but don’t have bachelor’s degrees in nutrition and didn’t go the RD route

[@averizimmermann4387]

Oooo also actual real therapists vs social media life coaches….sooooo much to unpack there

[@CarysCreatesThings]

@@kelseyevers3320I know that, that’s why I specified TikTok “nutritionists” (inverted commas intentional). I wasn’t referring to qualified nutritionists. As I said, anybody can promote themselves as a nutritionist whether they’re qualified or not because it’s not a protected term, whereas it’s illegal to claim you’re a dietitian unless you’re qualified and registered. There are a lot of unaccredited organisations selling online courses with a certificate at the end. People take these courses then claim they’re certified nutritionists but their certification isn’t accredited or recognised by any governing body. Those are the “nutritionists” I’m referring to.

[@m4a1mag]

influencer nutritionists the ones that tell u to eat 15 eggs per day

[@hayleyzurb]

So many of these people contradicted themselves the ENTIRE time

[@nashi._.7563]

I noticed that too 😂 😅 I think they had moments where they were trying to be real but also PC since most are influencers

[@Sha-El]

For real lol

[@Tacobellcheesyrollup]

Totally

[@jesss101]

they were trying to go back and forth on being brutally honest but then reeled it in to not be too offensive. this was all over the place.

[@jakedavis1129]

Seriously, especially the two women in the middle who went from saying women don’t want attention in the gym to saying the only reason they pick male trainers is for attention like what 😂

[@DaDualityofMan]

We sure Xinia is a real person and didn’t come straight outta a fighting game? The name, the hair, the fit, the tat, the build, not making fun of her, I love it

[@BlackR0b]

Straight out of Arcane

[@spojsissnajsis]

@@BlackR0b straight out of onlyfans

[@drizzthekid]

She was my fave

[@mattsven]

Ms. Todoroki

[@sambaxter1118]

she gives mortal kombat vibes

[@florakoller1466]

Presenting yourself well in the gym is not the same as wanting attention lol

[@gaelm6689]

Theres a difference between presenting well and attention seeking outfits, booty shorts and a bro with cleavage is not presenting well at the gym, same for those guys with the string tanktops theyre all ridiculous

[@Hellspacifist]

This. Lol, agreed he just doesn't get it. Lol.

[@Hadohs]

Depends on the individual's definition of 'presenting yourself well'. Lots of people definitely dress for attention.

[@sugarbirb5145]

No seriously the way they somehow equate attractive bodies + attractive clothes = wanting to be looked at. Nooo??? What happened to “oh they’re focusing on themselves” literally a minute before that…

[@antiyttrad]

it is the same thing

[@strawberryycheescake]

I'm so happy Xinia called out the fact that it's wrong to assume that women go to the gym to build their physiques for men. I have a connective tissue disorder and my doctor advised me to start weight lifting in order to build more muscle to help support my joints and decrease pain. Saying that women are just going to the gym for male approval is a really careless statement to make. A lot of us go to better our health and improve our quality of life. Not only that, but also so that we love what WE see in mirror. Not anyone else. I can't tell you how many times men have complimented me for being skinny (almost underweight, mind you) but even though guys seem to like that, I don't care. I want to be big, strong, and healthy. My dream physique is the opposite of what guys have told me they like.

[@Toastywiththemosty69]

nobody cares.

[@sparrowsgirl14]

@@Toastywiththemosty69 you’re gross for this 🤢

[@angeljohnson234]

That rubbed me the wrong way too. I have arthritis in my knees, so my physical therapist told me to work on my quads and glutes. I go to the gym, so I don’t have to get a knee replacement in my 40s. Not because I want to attract the male gaze. That was such an ignorant statement.

[@OCDandme123]

Only girls on insta do it for men forreal so it skews men’s perceptions of women

[@jayleggett2261]

You're the exception, not the rule.

[@toxichazmat5785]

I got this..... so you go into a gamestop

[@Thomas-zt7dm]

Which is funny cause he presented someone in a scenario that was meant to make them look bad and be like “see you do see them as innately unattractive” when like 3 minutes before that he was talking about deviating from the question by taking into account something like body language and clothing/makeup lol.

[@Hellspacifist]

😂 as soon as he said that I was like, you don't. I bet you don't.

[@ggwurld]

BeInG a gUy Is HaRd EnOuGh lmao he has no idea what being a woman is like

[@etherwxlf]

The funny thing is that he made his point. Everybody who disagree, immediately agreed with with while trying to position themselves against him lol

[@desaryll2044]

@@Thomas-zt7dm Exactly, he was trying to paint a picture in order to ensure his point.

[@CruceBreng]

I loved Xinia's points and how well-articulated she was! Definitely my favourite speaker in this episode!

[@HiNinqi]

The mindset of the older white lady is exactly why I would NEVER feel safe or comfortable at the gym. If someone's gonna be staring and checking me out because they think "im there so that men will oogle me" that's absolutely bogus.

[@devynbyars6170]

she’s clearly older and has a certain type of mindset if you know what I mean. She was clearly projecting how she seeks attention in the gym lol

[@dranixrush3306]

Wow, so your form fitting attire doesn't draw any attention? Like, the leggings riding up your canyon...

[@dranixrush3306]

So we aren't going to talk about the form fitting clothing that can bring attention to certain areas of the body?

[@thatbeaatcch9884]

​@@dranixrush3306lol the same way men wear shirts that are long v necks and or pants that are tight too? Or are we only shaking women ?

[@Cloudii06]

She has a point tho, of course a woman who dresses modestly shouldn’t have to expect any stares or attention, but if a woman is wearing half- unzipped or tight sports bras for the purpose of pushing up/showing off her cleavage, or those ‘scrunch shorts’ which outline her buttocks, of course she should expect attention. Generally there’s nothing wrong with a sports bra and leggings for comfort- it’s normal- but there are some women who clearly pick out clothes which will naturally get more attention.

[@justinselkow2551]

Why are they debating this makes no sense. What middle ground are they looking for? If fit women are equal to fit men? Like this is confusing Im so sorry lol

[@rhambosia1]

Their difference in gender is where they will have opposing viewpoints, despite the fact they are all fit.

[@Yoyo18653]

@@rhambosia1lol like what difference of views does one have about going to the gym tho

[@johnnytimestamp8224]

yeah made it 10 mins, i bailed

[@gentlerob0t]

i think it's just supposed to show different perspectives of both genders on this topic

[@kobiecamp1134]

​@@johnnytimestamp8224You should have stuck around because this episode was real interesting like most, or all of them. Even if there's no real structure for a debate.

[@AtlasSchraa]

So the guys at my gym can wear muscle tanks, but if I wear a tank top I’m asking to be looked at?😭

[@emojicaptain7285]

You can look at them too. Nobody said you couldn't

[@musicplug1730]

Don’t wear revealing clothing if you don’t want stares. Pretty simple

[@genevievepavlak5803]

​@@musicplug1730don't act like a pig? Just work out and mind your business

[@electromagneticradiation2405]

@@musicplug1730 not really, just dont stare. i dont stare at people and nor do most girls. why do guys feel the need to stare? no wonder they get called creepy... and then get mad about it😂

[@idontgiveanf3713]

Exactly!

[@Aeta78]

Not the women in pink and blue catering to the male gaze. Not everyone is in the gym for men to gawk at them

[@Ethan-fj7kt]

well obviously...... In life when you have something people cater too or want people gonna look at it. Does it mean they should all the time excessively no, but people will sit there and get mad at the smallest glance by someone while dressed up as bright as a highlighter. What did they think was going to happen. The world isn't perfect.

[@duanen2337]

Yes they are or they would wear sweats or something that covers them

[@Mmithw]

@@duanen2337who tf wants to wear sweats in the gym

[@ki57852]

@@duanen2337 why do you expect women to wear clothes they may be less comfortable in, just because others don’t know how to be decent? literally why do yall assume just because a girl is in normal gym attire that that means she wants to be looked at? why is it so hard for you to believe that someone wouldn’t want that?

[@holardan894]

@@ki57852 there's nothing normal about those female gym wear and we both know that the makers of those wears do not have any comfortability in mind but the beauty AND sexiness of the owner so lets not act like illiterates and yapping nonsense

[@vvindya]

Jubilee, please rename this video "bodybuilder men vs. Bodybuilder women" or something. All these people are focused on aesthetics. There's a ton of fit people out there (strongmen, ironman, powerlifters, Olympic weightlifters, crossfitters, Pilates, etc) who do not care this much about our outward appearances

[@hibasfaya2672]

Great point

[@tiana4102]

I agree. Fitness isn't just about building big muscles. You can be extremely fit without having visible muscles (from doing activities like running, cycling, climbing, swimming etc.).

[@aisherwasher6959]

I was thrown off by how stereotypically bulky everyone was bc the title made me think there'd be a larger variety of fit people like you listed

[@PurpleCow62]

Yes and once they all agreed that going to the gym meant you have to care about physique, I disagreed. People go who are athletic, or want to become athletic, recover/prevent injuries, health reasons. While it is a main reason, there’s many other reasons to go to the gym besides physique.

[@BTMos]

Is giving meathead versus meathead middle ground.

[@notsorichrico]

Unpopular Opinion: these fit men need to do legs

[@krystalcheung3682]

Popular opinion

[@ryandeffley7652]

Why are you spending so much time staring at men's legs? 😂

[@digitalfantasia8552]

I hadn’t looked at that until I saw this comment 😭

[@at2time437]

They got pretty decent legs and the shorts are covering most of there quads just like wearing a shirt.

[@Warhous]

Legs so hard to build 😭 for me atleast

[@julianrandall8215]

grey tank dude is a fresh and fit viewer. i can’t prove it, but i don’t have to

[@1stdaughter]

100%

[@Leo6933]

Lol

[@omanicc9854]

Yup within the first second of the video we hear him repeating Myron's words

[@user-Zachary123]

What did he say that gave you that impression?

[@gioasencio4946]

maybe that's the reason he's the one that made the most sense

[@Sbs2134binth]

These people are not representative of people who like to work out/"gym people". Not everyone works out for external validation or appearance. We don't go to gym to judge others. If I see someone filming, I just mind my business and most often I admire their confidence to film publicly. Most people are there to better themselves and gym desexualises your body, you start seeing your body as a bunch of muscles. It's a beautiful thing and these people are not representative of it. Please move your body for your own health, whether it's walking or gym. Doesn't matter, moving your body is admirable. 💖

[@Miqui561]

Well said!

[@Predanator99]

Either you are asexual or delusional...

[@selmanaut]

wow thank you couldnt have said it better myself. I'm not even 1/3 in and I had to pause it and see if I was going crazy or someone in the comments agreed with me. Wtf is this video

[@lfroggyl8936]

i felt like the girl w blonde and orange split dye got really undermined a couple times during this

[@T1000-y9h]

She looked nervous when they were talking about Onlyfans.

[@chloequalls1662]

Agreed a few times i felt like what she said was brushed off :(

[@rickdonnette4573]

@@T1000-y9hcause she has an only fans

[@alwbalw]

@@T1000-y9hobviously

[@Groganee]

And she was most interesting to listen to, the smartest in that room definitely

[@CashCowSlay]

When the woman in blue said she was 49 I was shocked, but when the woman in pink said she's 61 my jaw literally hit the floor. They look absolutely incredible and literally no where even close to their ages. 61 looks 30, and 49 looks 25...way beyond amazing!!! Props to them for real yo!!

[@Urnotvirtuous]

@@CashCowSlay I would’ve guessed 57 and 55

[@KAWTELENUH]

Shawty in blue can get it all day long. That skin is glowing

[@awesomeaf1]

Why are you lying 😂😂

[@chillinwithice]

I’ll chime in here and say “thank you “ for saying I look 30😎 I’ll take 45 lol

[@SuperDuperSigmaMale]

​@@Thegreengoat310He's glazing.

[@avia8082]

the sexism in some of these comments were crazzzyyyyy

[@Urnotvirtuous]

🤓

[@mylesreid3699]

@@UrnotvirtuousOi x

[@connergoldberg]

Sexism is life. Men and women aren't the same. We're different. The requirements for women to join the sports, police, firefighters, and military are different to men. That's sexism for ya. Welcome to planet Earth.

[@imtoolazyyyy]

Because the sexism in the video is a little crazy too

[@connergoldberg]

@@Bo12346hhgfgdg when people talk online anonymously. You get to understand their true sentiment.

[@cooljoephils]

*I liked how even if the fit people don’t find the plus size people attractive they still acknowledge that there are some people out there that DO and that attraction is subjective.*

[@SpookyPookster]

Dude complaining about men with breasts having visible breasts himself.

[@Orius25]

He has pecs, not breasts. He's talking about obese men with gyno.

Pink shirt constantly using females instead of women, but not saying males instead of men pmo

[@strawberryycheescake]

I peeped that too! It irked me ugghh

[@exoticclan68]

Maybe you need healing from whatever wound causes you this much sensitivity to words that have the exact meaning which are synonyms. Goodness gracious

@@exoticclan68 Or maybe you need to dig a little deeper into the subtle meanings behind the words we use and the role language plays in consensus. Female is derogatory and grammatically incorrect, women are not just defined by their biology, they are human beings. And the female version of a human being is a WOMAN.

@@strawberryycheescake And repeatedly as well

[@Mariabea63]

I say “males” and women in the same sentence whenever I’m around a group of males 🫡 just doing my part

[@mochi1232]

All of their postures are so on point, I made myself sit up multiple times during this vid lol

[@natasharules6737]

It's probably the stools

[@kettyndhlovu722]

One thing i really disagree is that when people want to look better is not because they are doing it for the other gender or so that they look at them sometimes we all have insecurities and we want to look nice for ourselves to feel better for ourselves hence have better relationship with other's it's not always about others

[@arianopoien]

Word, I just wanna like what I see when I look in the mirror.

[@kettyndhlovu722]

@arianopoien definitely 💯

[@ray4real24]

Yep 100%

[@Lightitupp1]

Subconsciously we are genetically programmed to maximize our attractiveness for the opposite sex, you could logically think that you don't like how your butt looks or how your nose looks but that all stems from your genetic programming to secure the best possible mate.

[@Temms]

Be honest that is definitely a factor. That's just how we are wired.

[@evapeterson3168]

The two older women in this video have some seriously outdated views

[@kaitlynnogueira]

typical with middle aged women, there’s internalized misogyny

[@TheSilentRoar]

From what I just watched, I disagree. What did they say which makes you say that?

[@brownsounds6464]

Veryyyy

[@Johenz]

@@brownsounds6464 not at all. their views is more with reality

[@jaydenkirkland8848]

@@Johenzyeah if reality means back in the 70s

[@kirstyfrancis642]

These peoples views are actually terrifying.

[@beastmanderin]

You don’t achieve above average results by thinking and behaving average

[@JG-jn2nn]

"It's women's fault if they think men are gawking at them" "Some men go to the gym JUST to gawk at women" "If women wear revealing gym outfits, they're just asking to be gawked at" edit: ladies pls don't waste your breath arguing with the males in these comments. go have a positive interaction with a fellow woman instead

[@satellitestargazer2770]

Those comments pissed me off.

[@JG-jn2nn]

it's really weird that jubilee allows such sexist comments in all their videos. if it were racim or homophobia, they would correct it

[@wishfulwarning]

@@JG-jn2nn I can't even get past 8 minutes lol. have it paused and am clicking out after reviewing the comments. so disappointed with Jubilee the past 2 years or so.

[@FerretCuddles]

Or it could be that both are wrong. The guys doing that are lonely creeps and the women doing that are looking for attention. Both sides are doing shi that should be done somewhere else and both should be automatically kicked out for that.

[@JG-jn2nn]

@@wishfulwarning same didn't get past 8 minutes

[@TributesAndUnique]

Why does Lori keep calling women "females" but never refers to men as "males"?

[@user-Zachary123]

idk.

[@StephiePrimes]

I noticed this too!!

[@alirez426]

She did one point in the video she said females and males when talking about dressing for attention. But it was insane to me to hear that throughout the whole video.

[@bofi1280]

Does it matter?

[@TributesAndUnique]

@ it sounds dehumanizing

[@aliciavalenzuela4857]

What if… girls who are wearing sports bras and exposing skin are doing it… CAUSE ITS COMFORTABLE! So annoying that these men and the pink and blue women think everything is about the male gaze! Theyd be the same people to excuse assault and ask “well what was she wearing? She’s obviously looking for attention”. I’ve had to leave gyms before because creepy men were staring or following me around the gym and I was wearing baggy Adam Sandler attire. I wasn’t ASKING to be made to feel uncomfortable. I was there simply to do my workout and leave.

[@yixszel3911]

i feel this. im 17 and i was walking around the gym and this guy was hopping from machine to machine around me. i thought it was just a coincidence at first; maybe he just happened to be using the machine beside me. i got done with my workout and i was walking out the door and he followed me to my dads car until he saw my dad and walked to his car that was like 50+ feet away to act like he was getting something 😭

[@aliciavalenzuela4857]

@ ew!! Hate this and it’s so scary.

[@artbygilik]

I sweat a lot when I work out and I almost look like I peed my pants every time I’m at the gym 🫣 I just wear yoga pants and workout tank top because I hate sleeves with sweat marks and I don’t like baggy pants moving around when I’m doing cardio.

[@JoshHitti]

A dude in a stringer telling women what they should wear in the gym because he can’t control himself. Lmaooo

[@musicplug1730]

This would imply men and women are the same

[@firesports9458]

@@musicplug1730 they are

[@icetray2727]

@@firesports9458 men and women are not the same 😂

[@firesports9458]

@@icetray2727 ok incel 😢

[@kaylastarker85]

I thought we were done with the whole "women are dressing/acting like this for mens attention thing." Why can't it ever be for ourselves? There's a difference between noticing cleavage and staring, move on with your workout.

[@honeyosweet3877]

Fr

[@duanen2337]

No, we can't be over it because some women do it for men. My wife and her friends definitely said that's why they did it so it's true in some cases, not all, but some

[@emojicaptain7285]

Because most of the times its not peopls dress the way they do for others and for women its mostly men who theyre dressing for

[@tinap8227]

I agree, and even if SOME women do want yhe attention, that doesn't mean you should make them feel uncomfortable. I am at the gym in my bra and leggings 95% of the time, because I am dripping with sweat and hot. You can glance abd even look and appreciate but there's zero reason to be a creep or assume I want bothering.

[@Finnergen]

Key is you do it for yourself then cover yourself head to toe lol you don’t because you feel more happy when you dress well you dress well because you know society judges you. You are judged by men and women but which 1 do you want to attract in your subconscious 😂 fact but women never understand this it’s hilarious

[@FVBmovies]

More than half of the panel is on performance enhancing drugs and they speaking about health is hilariously hypocritical.

[@fath1at]

the conclusion that girls shouldn’t complain about being stared at the gym because they’re wearing revealing things aka “they’re asking for it” is utterly absurd to me

[@tbrandt23]

Working at a warehouse, I've been able to wear what I please. On a hot day, I wore a muscle tank top that only showed the deltoid portion of my body (no traps, no chest... etc). Even with just that on... I was getting complements, mixed with some girls & guys doing and saying things I didn't like. While I can complain about it, I realized that wearing such clothing might draw a certain type of attention that I don't like. Because of that, I decided to only wear tanks outside of work. This is called, *taking accountability.* While a person may not intend to get attention by what they wear, changing how they present themselves can significantly decrease or even eliminate what they experienced. Trying to change other people will never work. Just make adjustments to achieve different results.

[@Ethan-fj7kt]

the girl in the vid has exclusive spicy content tho....

[@berenwelter8835]

I think lust is bad in general, shouldn’t be condoned like this, I agree

[@_Graham99_]

And this comment is why the women and not taking accountability narrative lives on every day lol. If you consciously make the decision to put on something that is revealing and will obviously garner attention, especially if you know you’re conventionally attractive or have nice assets, you shouldn’t complain about getting looks. You knew what you were putting on regardless of how comfy it may be or how confident it may make you feel, you knew it was revealing and people in general are going to look at something put out on display. Accountability is key.

[@penguintaco9038]

​@@Ethan-fj7kt like half of the chicks like her do, frankly half the women on Instagram do at this point. It's honestly refreshing finding one without one.

[@themissionary58]

13:44 He was wrong about this. The question wasnt about physical attractiveness. It was about attractiveness. It seems he only thinks attractiveness is physical. The woman in pink think attractiveness encompasses characteristics that arent physical as well (confidence) This is a big difference between men and womens perceptions

[@kleptokitty1583]

exactly.. I was so confused why he kept saying it’s not. you could look at a stranger and be attracted to them just by the way they carry themselves.

[@ana..a.]

dude the prompt was literally about physical appearance, r u slow?

[@musicplug1730]

No he was actually correct. The question was about looks

[@geraldmack1749]

Most men who feel physical attraction is the most important thing, because that's all they have to offer is their looks.

[@avelatshali5975]

Yes!

[@fastgecko5799]

Why do you guys only ever get influencers for these things? It heavily skews their opinions most of the time. Try doing it with normal people that have no pressure to present a certain way.

[@mitchellstaniszewski8246]

LMAO. The progress bar during the ad slows down over time to make it seem shorter at the start.

[@SpiltBowlOfCereal]

KZbin is getting so greedy it’s hilarious

[@kankercutie]

this always annoys me about jubilee

[@Mionanlewn]

I noticed that too

[@quietlyuniversal]

WW.

[@ZEUS-dt9ph]

Coach greg will be dropping 12 reaction videos to this video and an instagram reel harder than last time in the coming days

[@Maddie-rv6sp]

i friggin love coach greg, him and will tenny are the only 2 i trust and feel entertained by

[@Brkchey]

greggin his doucette harder than last time

[@hakibbumbus]

greggin his doucette while cookbookmaxxing and turkmaxxing

[@crankheart]

@@Maddie-rv6sp greg douche has the most grating voice of all time

[@JezzaN1]

Dude's been out of original and even remotely valuable content for years now - all he does is squawk in reactions to other fitness content. Glad I unfollowed him a while ago.

[@kristy2468]

Myles painfully reminds me of Myron so much they could be siblings

[@ray4real24]

Fr

[@Almond_baby]

I hate when people generalise their own opinions, just because u r at the gym minding ur own business doesn't mean everyone thinks and does the same as u, just cuz u wanna get attention on ur butt doesn't mean every woman does, maybe Im building my butt for my bf? Just cuz Im working on my butt doesn't automatically mean I want every guy to look at it (wearing those tight leggings with a scrunch bum is another thing tho)

[@inputvolume6361]

Just convinced me yet again that I do not like the vibe of gym-people.

[@theaudacitybro]

Tell me your obese and can't handle the truth without telling me

[@Tacobellcheesyrollup]

Absolutely

[@Urnotvirtuous]

@@inputvolume6361 why are you watching this video?

[@Ghost-qk1kt]

they’re so strange

[@fastyfoxy]

90% of gym people are just people at the gym bruh. we literally just be chilling and then go home. when you add influencers and competitors it gets different.

[@ScattySpeaks123]

If you’re there to focus on yourself, why does it matter if someone is setting up a camera, wearing tight outfits… I most of the time wear hoodies and sweats because I like to sweat but I don’t care at all that my gym partner wears tight outfits and short shorts. I’m focused on me and so is she. Just different comfort levels. Same goal tho. She’s also petite and I’m more… voluptuous, so she gets away with more tight outfits without things spilling out. She also takes more pictures to track progress and I’m not really doing that. So many men think that girls wear cute fits, do their hair, makeup, for men, but they do it for more self confidence, and you need that as motivation.

[@MakaylaWilliams-y3c]

And it's like they mad that these people are supposedly seeking attention but give it to them😂like just ignore them

[@davida730]

I agree except for the camera part. Super annoying when someone is setting up their tripod and camera when the gym is busy. Or maybe people just don't want to be on camera.

[@nayi2733]

Exactly and the people in this video act like everyone at the gym are influencers doing it all for social media but in reality those who go are people who work 9-5, have 3 kids, and are trying to lose a couple pounds.

[@theflooriscj4160]

The sexism in the video and comments is gross

[@chansesarmstrong4092]

The fact brandon won the push ups with full form and the other 2 guys half repped every one is priceless 😂😂 Go muscle vs show muscle

[@kobiecamp1134]

I mean there's a difference between guys who lift weights, but don't do calisthenics vs. guys who do calisthenics, but don't lift weights.

[@davidw9468]

Well brandon does both ​@@kobiecamp1134

[@152Loui]

dude with the locs did both full range and half range. he also likely weighs more and is wayyy older than the other two. also, being that he competes, he may or may not be hydrated lol

[@annabelle9561]

Men work out shirtless in the gym all the time, so why is it an issue if women wear more revealing gym clothes? For me, wearing shorts and lighter gym outfits helps with sensory issues related to sweating-it’s about comfort and practicality, not attention. The fact that women are still blamed for how others behave towards them because of what they wear is so gross and rooted in borderline rape culture rhetoric. This is one of the main reasons I avoid going to the gym, and I know so many other girls feel the same way.

[@nashi._.7563]

It depends on the gym. It’s usually frowned upon if men workout shirtless. It’s usually seen as egotistical and unhygienic to be sweating on equipment. The only exception I think of is perhaps a CrossFit or calisthenics gym

[@annabelle9561]

@ I understand your point about shirtless men being frowned upon for hygiene reasons, but that’s not really what I’m talking about. My issue is with the double standard that men wearing tank tops or other minimal clothing is generally accepted, but if a woman wears something like a sports bra and leggings, it’s suddenly a problem. It’s frustrating that women’s clothing is so often scrutinized and policed in ways men’s isn’t.

[@marksamindu1234]

@@annabelle9561 don t wear swim suits in the gyms , they re like men with out shirts

[@nashi._.7563]

@@annabelle9561 Oh ok I get where you’re coming from 👍

[@Ray03595]

It's not an issue for women to wear revealing clothes to the gym, but to be shocked men would look and expect them not to look is naive. You're better off finding an all women's gym where you will STILL get looked at.

[@becca19216]

the older lady saying everyone is focused on themselves in the gym, and then saying she stares at people's physiques in the gym and judges people who go to planet fitness? girl ur the person beginners are scared of

[@Ueidkshksbdh]

On a real note people mostly care about themselves and if they judge it’s mostly positive or subconscious judging. At the end of the day though don’t let people that have no importance in your life drag you down

[@ScottMajorExpt]

These people in this video are the exact reason I don’t talk to anybody at the gym.

[@beastmanderin]

Nah these are the top 10%, you don’t talk to anyone cause you’re antisocial

[@tiffffffffny]

Its okay to not be at that level yet ❤

[@artbygilik]

I literally ignore everyone at the gym. Listen to my music and focus on my goals. Some people just hog the machine while their friend is standing next to it chatting with them and some people sit on the machine and scroll on their phones.

[@wishfulwarning]

sounds like a whole lot of misogyny coming from both sides and I can't even reach the 10min mark. very disappointed with the content and the people that have been chosen to be platformed on here recently.

[@Oakland_710]

@@wishfulwarning ❄️

[@ElijahWatts-ji9yx]

Womp womp, perpetual victim mentality

[@Elegies22]

Boo hoo

[@Twostraightwhitemalesreact]

Welcome to a thing called the internet 😂

[@RazorbackStoic]

Wearing "misogyny colored glasses" doesn't mean that everywhere & everything you see has misogyny in it, it just means that you are seeing it there because of your perspective, on life.

[@神の人-f2k]

Can we stop calling bodybuilders fit. There is nothing fit or healthy about being on steroids and constantly having to train and excessively strain your body. Just call them bodybuilders.

[@dieseldaveee3724]

Only the 2 black guys are on steroids

[@jonathonedwards9584]

@@dieseldaveee3724 The one with the dreads is actually a Natural professional bodybuilder.

[@ihavenojob69]

all of them are body destroyers seeing as they dont build anything but tumors

[@FVBmovies]

@@dieseldaveee3724 More than half of the panel is on steroids my pal.

[@Shortballa11]

@@dieseldaveee3724 2 guys and at least 2 of the girls have done it.

[@ramadhaniduff1484]

Please do fitness models vs female bodybuilders, Jubilee.

[@lubis1991]

Myles needs therapy... but he's also the kind of person who thinks he doesn't need therapy.... Ah well...

[@DOCTORXTRA]

weapomizing therapy is lame af .Plus his view is welcomed stop looking for a echo chamber in these videos .

[@lubis1991]

@ How am I weaponising therapy? Myles clearly derives happiness from external validation rather than looking inwards at his core values and beliefs. This can be very destabilising should there be any external changes beyond his control. Therapy promotes self-awareness and understanding, and in doing so helps build a stronger core sense of self.

[@randomdeer0]

Why does he need therapy?

[@Lord_Submissive]

Typical gym dude

[@danielnwogu5135]

@@lubis1991lol stop telling people to seek therapy every-time they have a different perspective

[@fitbrit-o8s]

6:28 XINIA HAS WOMEN'S BACKS!!👏👏👏

[@AsianBaby217]

I only opened this video because of Xinia lol her videos on IG are top notch and she is an eloquent and thoughtful speaker to boot

[@musicplug1730]

Sorry but she’s completely wrong. What is the purpose to grow glutes if not for men ?

[@michellecueto1072]

@@musicplug1730alleviate back pain, better posture, help overall performance etc. (idk if you’re ask rhetorically but here’s my answer, cheers!)

[@K321-q6c]

@@musicplug1730 For yourself? 🤦‍♀️ Look and feel confident. When you look in the mirror, be satisfied with how your body looks. It’s hilarious that men think we do it for them.

[@K321-q6c]

@@musicplug1730 For yourself? 🤦‍♀️ Look and feel confident. When you look in the mirror, be satisfied with how your body looks. It’s hilarious that men think we do it for them.

[@Ink_Addict93]

Venus is 49 ??? Bro WHAT ?? Lol I swear I thought she wasn’t a year over 30. That’s insane

[@Botzyol]

Black don’t crack especially when your in the gym racks 💪🏽 😅

[@rosetab612]

fr! she's gorgeous too.

[@matterking1]

Fitness makes you look younger. This will always ring true (unless you have a medical condition, bad haircuts and style, or abuse PEDs which are bad on body mileage)

[@Zerbon]

I thought she was clearly 40+ but on the internet everyone seems to think anything over 30 is a corpse so who knows

[@User2024.0ap]

​@@Zerbon I laughed to hard at that😂😂

[@jinx724]

I cant wait until we get to the point where we understanding obsession with being thin or really muscled up is ALSO an eating disorder

[@lukaskidd4621]

Pretty much all roided up women are disordered. If they weren't prior to juicing, they will be after going on the roids.

[@MustardSkaven]

Keep waiting forever.

[@flowersafeheart]

Each person in a gym is an individual. Unless they tell you, you don't likely know if they're dressed for comfort, to attract same sex or opposite sex or both or neither. Or if they are "serious" about exercising or not. And if they are seeking dating/sex or not. And what they are capable of doing or not doing.

[@coletrainhetrick]

There are ways to tell, if they have a phone set up and they are in the middle of the gym doing deliberately lousy exercises. That needs to be called out

[@FerretCuddles]

If you're serious about fitness, you're not wearing shapewear or anything designed to give and show off a wedgie or cleavage. A snug shirt, fit hoodie, sweats, etc are what women wear when they go to sweat and better themselves.

[@lindslu]

@@FerretCuddles I care heavily for my fitness and refuse to wear sweats and a hoodie lol. It's too hot for that

[@FerretCuddles]

@@lindslu Yes. I know. That's why I threw in that ", etc" towards the end of the sentence.

[@bruh8539]

@@lindslu Like loose T-shirt doesn't exist?

[@Venuslvr]

4:20 The statement made by the woman in pink, suggesting that women exercise their glutes solely to attract male attention, is reflective of a harmful mindset akin to victim-blaming, such as when a woman’s attire is scrutinized after she has been assaulted. This perspective undermines women’s autonomy and perpetuates the problematic notion that their actions or existence are inherently an invitation for sexualization. I’m just so baffled by how casually she just said what she said, as if it’s just a given fact. Well about the women who already have that natural big butt? Do they also want men to look at them?

[@DianaandherGuitar]

My immediate thought was “wait, so glute and leg strength is for… men? Not repairing busted joints? And a firmer tush is a side effect?” Wtf and I’m not fit by any means, but I have been working out and now I’m kinda like… ew no thanks if everybody thinks it’s just for attention and not me wanting to be able to hustle up and down a couple flights of stairs wtf

[@fitbrit-o8s]

FR. Thankfully Xinia retaliated on that one

[@mcmike2956]

Lmao dont act like people arent obsess with butts so its partly true

[@CN-ke8te]

@@mcmike2956Its not never in my life have I thought about other ppl when training my glutes, working out has solely ever been for my own approval and health.

[@Sagefrakrobatik]

​@@CN-ke8tethat may be true in your case but what is the utility of a BBL?

[@maximilianschott3827]

Shoutout Xinia for people a normal person fr

[@jazminleeeal]

foreal

[@ArtursGorovojs]

Brandon was actually only guy who did pushups with correct form . Respect for that

[@notiggy7816]

Well he does do calisthenics so he better

[@kobiecamp1134]

The dude in the middle was terrible. He wasn't doing complete pushups.

[@ATHBLT]

He’s also gorgeous. I couldn’t stop looking at him lol

[@JWalton314]

I'm glad he won lol. He would have won sooner if the others did the same form.

[@kobiecamp1134]

@@JWalton314 Better yet if the guys did as many.

[@SarahErsch]

" I got this" "well lets see if you got this" LOL

[@Isabella-wp4cs]

Then started talking about GameStop…

[@aliaal-atabi4981]

Guy in the grey tank top is super insecure and thinks that now that he's fit he's somehow super attractive. You got fit for attention and other people's opinions instead of health and personal goals

[@junojx]

literally lmao. narcissistic vibes too

[@Likefood267]

Why do you think he’s insecure?

[@mannylopez2388]

agreed

[@georgiarose4944]

10000% agreed. Hes projecting his own insecurities onto women and he is bitter he cant pull because hes "fit". Dude doesnt realise his personality is ugly ASF with not the best looking face either. Much rather an average Joe who has respect for others than a fit person thinking they're better than everyone because their fit.

[@yoboybigj875]

I don't think he's insecure..

[@Miguel_0011Z]

20:20 bros mad that men don’t have standards and will go for anyone, but women do, that’s men’s fault bro🤷🏻‍♂️

[@musicplug1730]

How is he mad by stating facts

[@sootchibootchi]

45:50 my man's telling on himself rather than telling the universal mindset that doesn't even exist. Dressing well, taking care of yourself for your own enjoyment does not equal weirdos are allowed to disrespectfully stare at you or take creep pics for example...

[@bruh8539]

If someone works out to attain a specific form for their body and also dresses to show off these specific forms, so it can be seen by people, then surely they'll reap the fruits and also the weeds from it. If you "show off" this enjoyment than it's not "for your own" anymore. If you expose your worked-out upper-body, you shouldn't be surprised if people starring/looking at it.

[@embryonnaire]

Please do ex obese vs ex anorexic.

[@wishfulwarning]

hello? this is probably so harmful.... no.

[@lsh04]

There’s nothing harmful about insight??

[@mylesreid3699]

Init bro

[@fashionmfsworstnightmare]

@@wishfulwarning how? they are both "ex" for a reason no?

[@lathanmabson8215]

@@wishfulwarning😢

[@ggwurld]

Also people judging others for “not being serious” at the gym is part of what makes me not wanna go…I’m not gonna look serious when I’m just getting my grounding. Ugh.

[@sarahchasauce935]

They can go f themselves. Sounds like a them problem. You go and do you

[@beastmanderin]

Nobody’s paying attention to the average gym goer, you’re damn near invisible. And it’s okay if you’re not “serious” but there’s a difference between bullshitting and putting in effort while being new.

[@patrickkumah6765]

No. They’re talking about people looking on their phones heavily throughout out the session. I swear no one judges people trying to get their grounding there

[@spacegoat123]

Who hurt Myles 😅 Myles you need therapy my guy, you sound so hurt and unheard.

[@quietlyuniversal]

I know 💔

[@brycesmoov3313]

Im sorry brother in the Grey Is super annoying and probably hurt from some women

[@759-94]

Yeah because he literally looks 5’4 lol

[@Jaleel_HS]

why does his height matter?

[@randomdeer0]

@@Jaleel_HSbecause if he’s short he is more likely to be hurt and rejected

[@ray4real24]

Fr and it's too obvious

[@Paoq5992]

Not the guy in grey mansplaining the prompt

[@chansesArmstrong]

The fact Brandon won push ups with full form and the other 2 guys half repped every single one 😂

[@psychobillynumbnuts1]

Brandon didn't go all the way down. Y'all just like him cuz he's white

[@MrStevo411]

Myles needs to go see a therapist. His insecurity is so painfully there

[@firesports9458]

you sound insecure lol

[@shannonhowsare8657]

Small guy syndrome

[@MrStevo411]

@@firesports9458 lol alrighty then

[@i3agofi3agel68]

Horrible episode. The little black dude needs to not be in anymore episodes. So annoying

[@ana..a.]

lol y’all just hate when people have different opinions

[@exoticclan68]

Just fast forward

[@georgennajiofor3826]

You're lying

[@anti-baka]

Racist

[@iyendeezont]

So anyone with a “different opinion” immediately needs to be shut off? 😂 you want everyone to give a basic npc answer to fit your needs? grow up

[@Brioche1212]

Very interesting that the men said finding someone attractive equals wanting to date them... 🥴

[@jeromemcintosh3609]

What's more interesting is the fact that, having a fit body and a not so nice face still makes you unattractive... which describes all of the men😅😅😅 though I feel horrible for saying it...

[@Thomas-zt7dm]

16:33 “We can’t deviate from the question because how someone presents themselves has nothing to do with their attractiveness but also I’m gonna present this person in the worst light possible to make them sound ugly af”

[@austintaneous8677]

Their reasoning feels less logically processed most of time, it feels more emotional and not well articulated also.

[@Kr1egsmesser]

That's the majority of people.

[@mixedzebra18]

That's called a human

[@JamCosmos]

ngl as a fit dude, these women have better takes than the men

[@emojicaptain7285]

On what?

[@isabella6075]

They were pick mes nice try

[@ray4real24]

It was pretty even, the guy in the grey shirt just ruined the whole male panel he sounds very bitter💀

[@sherylheidecker9025]

Attractiveness is subjective.

[@Lydia_the_Orc]

why are some of the men sooo toxic in this video? it felt like watching alpha male podcasts :(

[@ana..a.]

it’s not toxic ur just sensitive

[@tommy268]

Need a safe space? Boohoo

[@Lydia_the_Orc]

@tommy268 lmao

[@freesurfer8862]

You snowflake😂

[@nikatin.e]

Little bro in the gray tank is fully convinced that the gym is a dating pool. Pathetic.

[@vmadhavan435]

Now do obese women vs fit men That’d be insane

[@LeeNationnn]

😂

[@Astrapionte]

Ooooo the SCANDAL!! 😂

[@Kiwonfu]

And bring on myron 😂

[@vmadhavan435]

@@Kiwonfu lmaoooo

[@edturner3615]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@The1113015]

Lori: "I have met some very beautiful overweight people. If they carry themselves with confidence and dress well, they're beautiful" Myles: "brands like Victoria Secret now a days advertise plus size models as attractive" Lori: "I disagree with that" Myles: "But you said that's attractive" Lori: "I didn't say that. You're misinterpreting my words"

[@stefanolacchin4963]

I´ll break it to you. Beautiful and attractive are two very different things.

[@onyiegbuna400]

I think she was saying they shouldn’t be models, but not because it’s unattractive.

[@kevinbichael6602]

the black kid was the ONLY honest one for the attention thing. the only reason dressing well makes you feel confident is because of approval. gimme a break

[@manikahemmerixh]

It rubs me the wrong way anytime someone feels like they can speak for an entire gender, minority, etc. but for a woman to sit there and confidently say "if a woman is wearing that type of clothing to the gym, I guarantee she wants you to stare at her" is wildd. speak for yourself.

[@musicplug1730]

She prob does. Why wear revealing clothing then? Also can you get mad at people for staring if you are basically wearing underwear at the gym

[@dasiahill60]

@@musicplug1730I can’t wear liaise clothes due to sensory issues. People have their reasons

[@vanessamtakula99]

Pink and blue are dominating the convo and have a very “no listen to me” energy about them…

[@Camronrichard1]

The association with masculine and male and feminine and women is why people will disagree. The gym can be a masculine space it does not mean it’s for men, everyone has test and estrogen the balance of that is what separates men and women and why men lean towards more masculine activities

[@itsuhmeyuh]

Dude, that guy in the grey tank top was hella annoying. He really gave off podcast guy vibes. He hated being “wrong”, even though the questions were opinionated. And on top of that he seemed to have a big problem with women. Making most of the arguments into a gender thing. Then not being able to just understand not every one think like him.

[@Shewas-kathybates]

I was confused what the vs could be about when they both have the same interests.

[@mawrkk]

Different perspectives from male and female

[@chrissylekas]

The body dysmorphia in the bodybuilding world is insane

[@fawn4271]

Same with eating disorders. The amount of bodybuilders I see online doing extreme food restrictions and weighing themselves before and after every meal is INSANE. You don’t have to be stick thin to have an unhealthy mindset

[@kausha7135]

Lady: "Who are you building a butt for in the first place?" Me: "The girls and the gays."

[@DOGFACE2143]

Torre Washington is a great example that you don’t need to support animal abuse and cruelty to be a bodybuilder

[@dieseldaveee3724]

He is on steroids you manure-for-brains

[@hallyhop]

Dude there’s so many bad takes, this is painful to watch

[@zmajor7179]

We train and go to the gym for our own approval, not for men.

[@ElijahWatts-ji9yx]

Not always..

[@butwhy312]

@@ElijahWatts-ji9yx Yes always its just that weird men like you have big egos

[@devinwatson5792]

Woman are not a monolith, some go for male/female approval and some don’t. Just the same as some males go for female/male approval. Just depends on the person

[@psychobillynumbnuts1]

Going to the gym in your underwear, you're doing it for attention.

[@Queenmellowuwu]

@@psychobillynumbnuts1 so do men want attention when they go shirtless

[@tilli_]

Xinia was literally the only rational person in this video, and people stilled missed her points and undermined them. And myles was insufferable, the lack of maturity is really showing.

[@majaeinarsson8336]

WHEN are people going to realize that women can be in the gym for themselves and not for anyone to look at them?! I am NOT in the gym for anyone to look at me, I do get uncomfortable if men stare at me. I’m there to workout for ME, to dress for ME, to feel strong and confident for ME.

[@Urnotvirtuous]

@@majaeinarsson8336 not even what they said

[@majaeinarsson8336]

@@UrnotvirtuousOkay correction I did only watch the first prompt LOL but they were kinda on both sides in a weird way. Building glutes for men or other peoples approval, wearing things cause you want people to look. Absolutely some women do that and respect to them but it sounded to general

[@majaeinarsson8336]

The answers were definitely better on the later prompts. I just thought during the first it sounded bad

[@Urnotvirtuous]

@ 👍

[@MalesAreDemons]

Because males are ignored daily so they project on women.

[@1FairyGothMother]

People absolutely judge others in the gym.

[@sophiablum1019]

The way they all agreed that if women are wearing something “revealing” like showing any cleavage that means they want men to look at them. Like dude lesbians exist too and sometimes people wanna dress in a way that makes them feel confident, as well as functionality for working out. And it IS weird asf to stare at people in the gym idc.

[@andremodesto]

Having participants advertising law firms in such a middle ground video is wild. "Join us suing gyms even though your injury was 100% your fault and not the gym's responsibility"

[@TwoSpirit06]

I bet a lot of people don't even realize that the blonde haired woman is Ice from American Gladiators!!

[@bokarmangane8198]

yess!!!! thank you

[@andreamensah5341]

That guy is fr skipping leg day

[@1996karolinabcn]

Regarding the dress code of women at the gym, I will speak as a woman.... they so often overdo it and will soon start walking around in just underwear I think. I, as a woman, sometimes feel just weird when the girl in front of me pushes up towards me practically wearing panties that cut into you know what part of the body, it's damn awkward

[@nicoleraheja8302]

Relating to the attractiveness thing - we're not all physically attracted to people based on appearance. I don't feel any attraction to anyone I don't know by just looking at a photo of them. I feel attracted to more personality-based things, and then once I feel emotionally attracted to them, their appearance becomes attractive to me. I don't have a way to answer whether I find someone attractive based on appearance alone

[@asdfghj13579fly]

There’s a fundamental difference between what men and women are attracted to and what we’re turned off by. So they were not gonna have middle ground with that.

[@firesports9458]

@@asdfghj13579fly Nah its the same, maybe some differences, like men like broad hips while women like broad shoulders, men like legs more while women like arms more but both are pretty much the same

[@EmmaAus]

*"The gym is about aesthetics"* (5:48) - Wish there was someone more focused on *fitness for function* - Voices like Squat University, MovementByDavid, or Hybrid Calisthenics 🌻

[@Almond_baby]

Based on my personal observation I gathered: 1- woman care less about looks compared to guys 2- woman prefer dad bods to bulky guys 3- people who think women only go for fit guys, are (fit) guys themselves go talk to a woman