Five things BF 4.3 finally fixed. I can't wait for you to try them!

[@MadRC]

The motor direction and reorder feature in its self is just the major thing I want, I swear every quad I build these days I end up having to do it. Thank you devs.

[@sleepyheadfpv1507]

That motor direction system is the sexiest thing we’ve seen since bards teen porno pics leaked! Haha

[@EnglishDave82]

Speedy bee had this feature for ages. Cant belive betaflight only just doing it

[@TimeFadesMemoryLasts]

Thank you Limon :)

[@TimeFadesMemoryLasts]

@@EnglishDave82 The difference is that people at Speedybee get paid for it. The guys there need to do what they get told and get paid for. In BF everyone does it in their free time as a hobby in addition to a full time job. So it's just that no one had the time or know-how or motivation to do it till now.

[@IvanEfimovLimon]

@@EnglishDave82 speedebee can't remap/reorder motors lol. At least yet.

[@JonE5FPV]

Limonflight aka BF 4.3 is the most exciting release ever, due to a number of significant ease of use additions, all of which will allow less tech savy individuals to join FPV as a hobby. So cool that a single developer working for free was responsible for the presets functionality, motor mapping, motor direction and others. It should directly result in greater userbase overall across the industry and allow the hobby to grow larger.

[@tubab72]

I do not think FPV will grow "larger". Drones as a "novelty" are over their apex. And .... it is all for the better imho. The "average idiot" with a DJI Phantom crashing into random objects/people has done enough damage. But advancements like this will benefit the stable base of hobby enthousiats taking drones "seriously".

[@dr0n3droid]

@@tubab72 2015 called, it wants it's "average idiots" back.

[@tubab72]

@@dr0n3droid ..LOL, yep 2015 and them Chinese sweatshops manufacturing all that crap !! ;-)

[@SCFPV]

Agreed

[@mhaslinghuis]

Don't forget my work here - i've touched every single file in configurator to make everybody's live easier (detect button and sliders are visible, but also porthandler (autodetect and select your port) and serial optimization and bugfixes all over the place.

[@altermannfliegt3927]

Hello everyone out there. I'm new with these quads but I couldn't understand why motor reverse had to be done in an separate program. Now it works just right in time for newbies. Thanks a lot for that.

[@IvanEfimovLimon]

A lot of things could be done easier, nicer, better than they are now... It's just a matter of someone opening the Betaflight code and making it happen for free lol

[@Sugar_K]

@@IvanEfimovLimon yup and frankly the configurator isn't exciting so in the past the team has been small... more hands and enthusiasm have made a world of difference

[@TimeFadesMemoryLasts]

That's because the motor's drivers (the ESCs) run a firmware completely separate from Betaflight on a separate chip.

[@BikeGuyFPV]

To clarify at 7:10, your flight controller can be in any sort of orientation and it won't affect the motor orientation. It's if the ESC is not in the default orientation, that's where the motor remapping comes into play.

[@wingsounds13]

All this is cool... now the wait for 4.3 to release. Yes, I know that RC1 is out, I just don't feel like messing with it until it is a full release with a matching configurator. Often there are "little" changes between RC and release that require totally re-doing your configuration due to "minor" incompatibility issues between beta/RC software and the release version. Hopefully soon... really soon. (same for EdgeTX 2.6).

[@orangeade5]

This along with the orqa digital reveal at CES has made me so insanely happy. I hated swapping motor layout in CLI and BLheli is so damn clunky. This will make future builds much faster.

[@SCFPV]

I've always thought bl-heli was pretty easy to do a motor reversal on, albeit a bit cumbersome, but it always felt like something that should have been baked in to BF.

[@MachuPichuu]

@@SCFPV right, too bad they didn't just integrate BLheli configuration and flashing into betaflight configurator. Probably will never happen with it being closed source now.

[@richarchdale6522]

Thank you Joshua Bardwell for all the educational videos! You're a Rockstar!

[@alexdefelice2448]

This is awesome!!! Thanks as always for the great vid. It feels like cool things are happening again in FPV after what felt like a big lull.

[@ChristKrew-Rev1.8]

This is my absolute kryptonite.... I can build but betaflite set up gets me every time. Thank you JB for posting this!

[@mjodr]

It's not the easiest thing in the world. From hour 1 in the software a year ago I have to be honest I was stumped.

[@mikehomsley4541]

Hello: All I can say is you rock! I have watched so many video’s of yours! You have helped me soooooo much. Really appreciate how much you have given to this hobby. I do watch all of them to the end!!!! Wish I could do more for you $$$. Really appreciate your work…. My first real quad was your FC and esc v1. Thanks!

[@BigAlFPV17]

I'm definitely goin to love BF 4.3 With me having hard time remapping motors, this will solve it. Goin to love the other new features. Great job to the BF Devs. Excellent video Joshua!!

[@spfpv6753]

I just spent three weekends trying to master Blheli and get it going correctly, then the developer went and incorporated it into 4.3! Happy and frustrated at the same time. Thanks again JB. Great content!!! Happier flying for sure with this. Hopefully it helps make this hobby a little easier for the newer ones. I remember how I hit my head against the wall in the beginning. Remember when they gave us flipping over after crash...? 4.3 is a excellent Game changer.

[@borasumer]

Yes to backup in the setup tab. I just bought my first Quad last week, and I was changing the settings like there is no tomorrow because I knew I had a backup already, but oh boy was I wrong. It was just a backup of as you said nothing? lol Then ofc started goggling, on reddit pals helped me to run the original CLI. This is literally a trap...

[@jandomingo9806]

Wow! I never been excited about any betaflight stuff. 4.3 looks amazing.

[@cougman68]

Big improvements , thanks for the walkthrough !

[@KM-xp1pn]

Love the JB betaflight videos 4.3 looks great will try it out.

[@madscientistlife]

Joshua bardwell is back! I love the beta flight videos. This stuff is what got me started on my FPV Journey.

[@North49RC]

I will be starting with BF 4.3 in my quad experience and it looks like this will be so much easier to configure. Thanks JB

[@KOrnhOliO1]

Holy Crap! What an ideal place to start! ;)

[@Konspiradlo]

OMG! I've just learned that I was not making any real backups! Thanks Joshua.

[@sammarple9443]

The ends are great love to watch them

[@jesselopezdrones4396]

That is awesome! There is so many new features. Great video JB Thank you for sharing. You are da man. 👊👊 Lol the very very end. Your crack up. Hope your 2022 is blessed 🙏👊👊

[@jonbarnes7877]

You just gotta love JB's at time giddy passion about stuff like this! 😜(signed: another JB)

[@KOrnhOliO1]

Such a total and utter GEEK, huh! He's fantastic! lol

[@spikester]

I'm super impressed with the simplicity of Chris Rosser's AOC tune with the minimal filtering, makes things so much easier. 4.3 significantly improved things for rpm filtering setups in this way, much shorter filter delays.

[@TimeFadesMemoryLasts]

That's especially a result of "RPM crossfading" and Steve Evans' scheduler work which makes the RPM filter more precise. Now the gyro filter delay is practically nonexistent (between 0ms and 1ms) with Rosser's tune or the Karate tune. And yet the gyro signal is cleaner than ever! It's like having your cake and you can eat it too :)

[@justinwalker631]

appreciate all your help buddy!

[@RCRitterFPV]

Soo many great things, been enjoying it motor directions... auto detect, presets.

[@Gosuminer]

Awesome usability improvements! This is now much more suited for a software as mature, complex and popular as Betaflight.

[@1baggy0dodo4u]

nice, really like that cli dump wizard and separate pid slider for the pitch, roll, yaw.

[@PIDtoolbox]

Fantastic! 4.3 is really something

[@baggszilla]

Yup that's it! I'm switching to BetaFlight 4.3 tonight. Thanks JB!

[@IvanEfimovLimon]

RC2 is coming in a couple of days with some fixes :) Might wait a little )

[@baggszilla]

@@IvanEfimovLimon thanks for the insight. I could always refresh again.

[@IvanEfimovLimon]

@@baggszilla that is true :) If you run windows, then on RC1 some people have problems opening the configurator. THe latest Nightly configurator fixes it. So if you need that - can download that too.

[@baggszilla]

Good looking out Limon!

[@callanbrain8579]

This makes a lot of things so much easier

[@philihc]

I love the possibility, now finally be able to change the motor spin direction out of Betaflight. Nice

[@keybrent64]

Thanks Ivan!!

[@lynxfpv]

Awesome 👍 just awesome. Looking forward to this update. Nice singing at the end lol hahaha

[@gregstewart4692]

Thank you Joshua for keeping me and others up to speed. I was unaware and now I am aware.👌👌

[@jbaerFPV]

As a noob that don't understand tuning (yet?), 4.3 and it's presets is a gift from heaven! My XL5 build flies so much smoother and has barely any propwash anymore 😁

[@Vaughnboilore]

This configurator is the best ever!!🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻

[@PrinceVaskur]

Hah! That's so nice: simple button clicks to get the goodness. Now, I have an 8" tricopter on the shelf which did fly a few months ago, but was very pitchy on all inputs. Couldn't get it tuned and lost interest. I hope someone will put a good tune for an 8" tri in BF 4.3. Cool schtuff!

[@KOrnhOliO1]

Haahaa ... I'll bet theirs loads of 8" Tri's out there! ;)

[@PrinceVaskur]

Maybe, just need their tunes in BF4.3 ✌️

[@Sugar_K]

lols as one of the preset gate keepers not so far...

[@gonebdg]

Cooooool ... I've been off from fpv for almost 6 months and when I'm back there are a lot of interesting and good stuff 🔥

[@GTARC_au]

I'm with mad! Love the motor direction feature. One of my pet hates with my builds! Cheers as always JB. 👍

[@KOrnhOliO1]

Wow! So many upgrades and ease of use convenience features! All in ONE upgrade - they should have called it Betaflight 5 ! I can't wait to try it!

[@mjodr]

With the amount of changes I see in it, I too was wondering why it didn't get a major version number bump. It's pretty different.

[@Sugar_K]

@@mjodr cause we have much bigger improvements planned for 5.0

[@MCsCreations]

It's truly looking fantastic, Joshua! 😃 Finally some of those stuff was done! It's going to be really useful! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@Mikebfpv]

Hot damn! Been waiting for those wizards!!

[@FlyZoneFpv]

Now we're talking. Finally! Yes baby exciting Joshua. I love it😜🤘🤘👏👏👏 I've been waiting for someone like this. thanks betaflight

[@MrJarrod]

Chef's KISS to the BF Dev's , awesome effort with the latest update 4.3.

[@canmanfpv384]

@Joshua Bardwell Are you planning on remaking your famous betaflight complete setup tutorial now that 4.3 is out??

[@Stevieboyfpv]

Superb! Thanks for all your vids dude! What would fpv be without Bardwell!?! Fountain of knowledge and a giant safety net! Over used but you are a legend

[@franciswong26]

Hi JB! Apart from your great video content, I can see your light source is improved in which I'm not distracted by the reflection from your glasses anymore :)

[@aeropenna66]

installed today I try it tomorrow morning I hope everything goes well!!

[@sayyay6230]

WOW!!!!! So many cool new features. Thanks for breaking it down for us JB

[@trajanfpv]

You had me at motor direction and mapping Wizard!

[@ryanpetty392]

IM SO HAPPY ABOUT THE MOTORS TAB OPTIONS AND THE SLIDERS!!!!!!! Question will this work with the HOLY BRO STACK that has the gyro cable on the FC AND THE FOXEER F7 6s FC ?

[@mcronfpv8736]

No sorry these FC will have to be rolled back to beta flight 3.5.7

[@chrish1645]

Wow that looks like a very nice release.

[@whollymindless]

Looking forward to it.

[@BROK3N1MAGE]

Dude! Motors!! Goodbye blheli 👍. Also thanks for the infor Bardwell. Imma definitely use that tool to migrate my fc to 4.3.

[@JohnCuppi]

Thanks, the CLI migration tool is something I *really* needed right now.

[@mjodr]

What, you don't like reading dumps and taking screenshots and doing it all manually like I did? hahaha

[@h2o-fpv623]

this is so great thanks to the people who work on it and tank u JB

[@Mr.Tiger.2013]

The backup feature is a PITA. I backup both cfg and cli output and use Beyond Compare to check between change or upgrade. I just don't trust the configurator.

[@tobytorials]

Hey Joshua, great video! Great updates! I was wondering could you make a video how to tune a quad with the new sliders? Would be awesome and think a lot of people would benefit from that! Thanks a lot. Have a good day! ✌🏽

[@mattlago]

Huge! Motor swap in BF! Is that rap you did at the end available on iTunes?

[@PalmliX]

I can't believe the motor re-ordering/rotation direction is just making it in now! Better late than never! That's always been a massive pain in BF for me and one of the reasons I stuck with FlightOne longer than I normally would have.

[@wrstew1272]

ANYTHING that makes setting up a quad is great! Some of us old f#ks haven’t grown up with a computer in our paws 3-6 hours a day will love this one. The more simple, the better. Kind of like KISS?

[@sheapyfpv8224]

I don't think Joshua was this happy on his wedding day 🤣 can't wait to check out 4.3 baby 👊

[@joeschmo5171]

Thank you for another great video, Joshua!

[@martinwager8815]

I have been doing the backup button AND saving diff all... so confusing, thanks for the explanation!

[@raphael7003]

Thank you Joshua!!! From Brazil!!!

[@The_Privateer]

Is return to home more than just (what seems like) an afterthought now? Oh... never mind. I mean really - if you get into a situation where you **need** RTH - you want it to work accurately and reliably. The only thing that keeps me away from betaflight is the RTH - or lack thereof - of even minimal sophistication in getting a quad back to you reliably.

[@hannesju3315]

Sure RTH isn´t nearly as good as in iNav but it will do the job. I´ve used it serveral times in the past and it brought my quad back, at least enough to take over control again.

[@ShermanKenB]

It's always worked for me. Along with displaying gps on my osd and saving on my radio I find this to be a good rescue system.

[@IvanEfimovLimon]

Rescue (RTH) mode works in BF ok for me. Yes it does not accurately land the drone for me. But it will get the drone back when you need it.

[@SkyCandyVisuals]

Ok Josh have you been flying it? I felt like ya left us hanging at the end. You could of flew it real quick and gave us your feedback on how better or worse it felt. Either way so glad for the features and others that are here now. Thanks for the video !

[@DrillSrgtEuge]

Any word if the OSD elements have been fixed, working with the DJI AirUnit? Specifically the warning element? You did a video where the craftname element is used. I couldn't get that process running on my quad. Hehehehe

[@Smoothinto2nd]

Words for the algorithm ;) great info as always

[@djilly75]

4.3 is awesome! I'm super excited 😄

[@stickboyfpv4742]

07:11 hey Josh! So I had burnt up my #3 motor signal pad on my fc.. so I had re mapped motor 3 to ppm 1, "in BF 10.7", soldered the signal wire to ppm on the board. Now I have flashed 10.8, and when I type "ppm 1 none".... My esc's no longer power cycle when I plug a lipo in?! Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!

[@dnafpv]

I love the throttle cap rather than have to use the cli too

[@paul-jd9ic]

man today i really learned something

[@mantyfpv7409]

I can't express how happy i am about the motor direction thing....no more having to open up the quad and swap wires like I normally do 😂

[@parker1ray]

My new Crux 35 came pre-flashed with 4.3 which required me to install 10.8.0 configurator in order to bind a ELRS receiver on an AIO board with no WIFI. Was supposed to be PIP! LOL

[@timothyhighstone9300]

Great video. You have made me really want to get into this now for sure👍👍

[@vedasticks]

could have used that motr remaping tool when i put my flight controller for my tinyhawk freestyle in backwords lol

[@jackjohnson5024]

Wow, that was worth the wait, some impressive stuff! The presets seem really cool! Too bad I just set up my new quad on betaflight 3.5.7 :(

[@Sugar_K]

welcome to 2017

[@tt-vc8fd]

Sweet! Will it teach me how not to crash in acro? I'm stuck in angle mode as I just can not get the hang of acro mode without trying to move the earth off its axis when I smash an expensive quad into it.

[@bmconnexion8985]

Help with explaining the Zorro radios Which one should I buy coz there is four options so can you please do a video and break that down for us

[@tesch1985]

I just found exponential for horizon/angle modes. Lots of great features.

[@mjodr]

Serious? I missed that. Is it in expert mode or hidden in CLI?

[@tesch1985]

@@mjodr It's in the CLI. There's roll and pitch level expo. I just typed expo and picked them out.

[@RCBK58]

I used the backup and reset it wiped out my brand new Erls FireFly Flywoo 1S and never got to fly it. I wish I seen this video a lot sooner.

[@HalfChrome]

Thanks for the info.

[@jrwelch7985]

Yay! Bardwell!

[@ShermanKenB]

Dang! I'd download and upgrade my quads right away if it was a little warmer than 4F outside. Kinda want to test fly to verify and my basement is just a too little small!

[@attainableapex]

omfg, i'm updating just for the motor direction. there already right, but fucking a its beautiful

[@SCFPV]

The best upgrade, is the one you don't really need. Do it for the hell of it! 🤣

[@Khalinakhe]

That ending was perfect. What did you record it on? Feels new.

[@fpvpanda4345]

Haven’t you and uavtech been saying it’s “almost out” since last summer? Lol just poking fun can’t wait for it to get released, thnx for the consistent content bro

[@johnnie10d]

Hi, I have three Baby Hawk II HD's one I purchased eight months ago and the other two at Christmas time. I am just now getting started with these quads. I am not getting a connection from any of the three on Betaflight (latest version). I am not having trouble connecting any of my DJI Air Units or Vista's. Please help, thanks! Not the cord :)

[@Nick-PaiN]

This is next lvl shit! I'm super excited about these new features. I was about to go to emu flight to try something new

[@MrRunsWthSizors]

Not very often i say this about an update, but wooooooooooooooow! Well done devs!

[@ClarkDroneFilms]

OSD presets ♥️

[@richardruckert7954]

Hi Joshua...thank you for this. Being a beginner, please help me understand how BF 4.3 will fly better than 4.2. I'm assuming 4.3 has a fits all default PID tune as 4.2 did. If 4.3 flies better than 4.2 at the default, what is the improvement? I ask because I'm not likely to tune the quad, and will live with the defaults. I've looked into the how to of tuning but find it as tricky and individualistic as color grading video. I understand there was a time when pilots had to tune. That's not the case anymore unless one wants to fine tune to their skills and flying style. Skill wise, I am nowhere near there. So, default tune it is. Will the improved BF be of value to beginners like myself? If so, how so? Seems like I'll have to load 4.3 just to keep up, but for a beginner motor mapping doesn't come up that often. Please reply

[@markcooper6057]

If you have a working version of BF you do not *have* to update. I've been using 3.5.7 on my 2 Mobula 6 quads for 12 months, as I don't (yet) know how to tune PIDs. But the BF 4.3RC1 defaults "just work", as I found when I updated one of them. There is now (2022-01-10) a new "whoop" preset available, which makes life even easier for comparative noobs like me.

[@aHotHAMsandwich]

MOTOR DIRECTION AND REORDER!!!! YAAASSSSSSSS

[@kobie4238]

This is huge💪🏾

[@KairosVn]

have burnt 2 quads already after flashing 4.3.... motors got super hot with stock filters and pids. At begining i thought the reason was i haven't put the props on but when i fly my cloud 3,5inch got crashed after 1.5 minute of flight. Same with 5inch kakute fc quad.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

There was a break in the development where if you had an older configurator and you updated the FC without also updating the configurator, this happened. That's a risk of nightly builds? The fix is to download the latest configurator and flash the latest firmware.

[@KairosVn]

@@JoshuaBardwell yep I downloaded latest bf 10.8 configurator. I have 4 quads on 2 quad it is working on the rest 2 got super hot motors

[@nonamefpv4863]

That song at the end tho 🤣🔥

[@jasoncourville9568]

That's for the update👍. Any idea when the official release will drop? I'm finishing up my first toothpick build and would like to try the presets.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

It's in release candidate now. Historically, it will be between 2-6 weeks until final release. It just depends on how many issues they find.

[@jasoncourville9568]

@@JoshuaBardwell Thanks 👍

[@lllCAP]

i totally missed that auto detect! Could have saved me a trip back to the bench lol

[@RKTBOX]

I've been having pretty severe wobbles at mid to mid high throttle moving in one direction on 4.3. Not present in BF 4.2. I've got very slightly oscillation on my throttle receiver input so thought perhaps the new interpretation of FF could be getting in the way, but have tried a broad array of uplink frequencies and smoothing settings, as well as deadzones to no avail, in fact, no impact. I'm a pretty competent tuner and have not been able to even partially mitigate this part throttle oscillation, the quad just will not track dead straight. The kicker, both of my friends quads (on stock settings or not) also has the same part throttle oscillation (only when moving directly forward also). The only things tying our builds together in terms of similarity is that we use Ghost, and that we use BF4.3. Everything else in our setups is completely different, but the behavior has only occurred for _both_ of us on 4.3, regardless of what pids, filter settings etc have been implemented. We're using 4.3's native 'GHST' receiver input type. Has anyone else ran into this issue?

[@mjodr]

What is your CPU utilization like and have you messed with TPA/Breakpoint?

[@RKTBOX]

​@@mjodr Hey Matt. CPU utlisation appears to be within spec but I'll take another look at it. I've tried stock TPA/Breakpoint, all the day down to 1350/0.5, all the way up to 1750/0.85 (values I've had success with on after testing difficult quads in the past). What're you thinking, is there something else specific I should look at?

[@mjodr]

@@RKTBOX When you say CPU is in spec, what is it? 60% was maxed out on my F411. I thought maybe, you know, 90-100% would be maxed, but my F411 doesn't behave until down in the 30% utilization.

[@RKTBOX]

@@mjodr F7 at 70-80% typically. If it is CPU related, then I wonder why it's only an issue on 4.3 and not 4.2, I expected 4.3 to be more efficient if anything :(

[@mjodr]

@@RKTBOX The scheduler is completely different, and while I like how it works overall I think the firmware is a bit heavier load on the CPU than 4.2. I think it is more efficient in some areas, but takes more processing time in others. Or I am completely wrong and it's more like the async tasks versus non-async are different, thus causing different issues than 4.2 (hard to explain). In any case, it's still RC1, there is almost certainly a handful of bugs to squash and iron out as it approaches final, then the first round of minor version number patches, etc. I've been talking to the devs and poking into the codebase the last week, everything is still being actively worked on.