Fixing a Trimmer, Edger or Blower That Starts But Bogs Down & Dies - Echo

[@dfu1685]

Where in the Corn was this video when I spent half a day looking for anything about this exact edger? This was EXACTLY WHAT I NEEDED TO SEE!!!! Thank you so much. Your efforts are blessings that help so many frustrated people. God bless you fourfold for your work. 5⭐️

[@helpinguonline]

Glad I could help!… And God bless you!

[@dfu1685]

The name of your channel is exactly what you do. You are a great Man!

[@workeatplay2386]

I was petty amazed when he put file in and it didn’t drip everywhere!

[@81artmonk]

I'm confused....the filter wasn't dirty...the carb wasn't dirty and the lines looked good so what exactly did you do to fix the unit?

[@CH-mp8eu]

I honestly thought it was going to end with a bad cap vent.

[@julian4288]

He put a new gas filter

[@mjay4700]

Similar trimmer with the same issue here - Idles fine but when you hit the gas it just bogs down and quits. Spark arrestor screen and exhuast was pretty clean but I cleaned those anyway. Entirely disassembled and cleaned carb, which was very clean already. Replaced fuel filter which was also pretty clean. Used all new TruFuel 50:1... Still I'm getting the bog-down issue. With each video I watch and with more research I find additional helpful tips but maybe I need to go back over the carb again and make sure that roller is there and go over the jets again.

[@helpinguonline]

Make sure the metering diaphragm is very rubbery and flexible and not stiff at all. Also you can try to adjust the carburetor

[@mjay4700]

@@helpinguonline Thanks for your reply. The diaphragm is pretty flexible and doesn't seem stiff. 1 year old machine so everything is pretty new on it. Yes I think either carb adjustment or new carb is needed. These aluminum carbs get corroded and eaten away by the additives in modern gasoline, especially standard 87 octane.

[@hcic9860]

Very precise video and extremely helpful. Thanks my friend 👍🏼

[@helpinguonline]

Glad I could help

[@Vipex_134]

The most helpful channel ever! I put grease on my stihls now and I will now know how to fix stuff! Thanks man.

[@helpinguonline]

thanks

[@canadianbrewer]

I installed a new carb, fuel lines, spark plug, spark arrester and my FS38 still will not run. Unfortunately I have to take it in to a shop. I still can't figure out why it won't run. Runs for 30 seconds and then dies. After that, will not start at all. I can't adjust the hi and low on the carb because it doesn't run at all.

[@helpinguonline]

At a guess your coil might be going bad

[@jayc3110]

That was an excellent video. Thank you very much and best wishes

[@helpinguonline]

Thank you too

[@willwork2fish261]

Two quick questions. 1. Where did you get your work station table outside? 2. What’s the best way to get gas smell off? (Started my own little business and working on these all day your hands start to smell)

[@helpinguonline]

The table was given to me... It is actually a foldable sawhorse. Not sure if they are manufactured anymore? I have never thought about fuel and grease smell on my hands and no one has ever said anything in all my years. I usually use a hand cleaner if they are real bad...sometimes Purple Power but it is a little harsh. otherwise I use Dawn if the grease isn't too bad.

[@dfu1685]

Hand Goo

[@hementkoemarnaipal4988]

Very helpful technical sir ,thanks a lot .👍👍👍

[@helpinguonline]

glad I could help

[@westcoast6162]

Same thing on echo blowers, clean exhaust ports they get fully on carbon deposits and it will lose power and won't fully accelerate

[@whisperingsoul44]

Hi BTW, loving your vids🎉 I have a blower that starts up with now issue, but doesn't wanna start after using it, until it's cool.... I, too, think it may be a bad coil?

[@helpinguonline]

Could be… When it is hot and won’t start check and see if you have spark. That is a common symptom When coils start going bad but it is good to check and make sure before buying a new coil. Thanks for your visit.

[@iwannachopbladeslawncare]

What is the brand of that blue 2/2?

[@6Slick6Rick6]

What was that spray that you were spraying the carburetor with?

[@helpinguonline]

Carburetor Cleaner. Make sure to be careful not to spray rubber gaskets, grommets and diaphragms as it may distort them.

[@bustertaco]

No link on my TV... Its not there!

[@Cam-dh3iy]

My Echo String Trimmer takes forever to start. It’s got good spark, I’ve replaced all of the fuel lines etc. You can tell it wants to go as it will kick and then some smoke comes out from the exhaust but it never fully starts. Then when it does it’s like it hates it and is bogged. Then I leave it over night and it seems fuel got to my air filter. Not sure what to do at the momentz

[@helpinguonline]

Could be a number of things… Start simple and work your way through it. Hard to tell from here what it might be but Since you have spark and I assume good compression… I would make sure that you have good fuel without water in it, the carburetor is properly adjusted

[@helpinguonline]

Clean fuel filter, and that the carburetor is not gummed up by debris or old fuel. Sounds like a fuel problem but hard to tell from here.

[@Cam-dh3iy]

@@helpinguonline Okay I will double or check. I just refueled, it decided to go. Then it said F it went it tried to start it again. Do you think it has anything to do with the needle valve? I never fully disassembled the carb and got to the valve. Should I check that then adjust carb?

[@Cam-dh3iy]

@@helpinguonline Strange, I use the same fuel (TruFuel) in my echo leaf blower and that has no problems. I will definitely double check the carb and let you know. I appreciate you responding!!

[@killthecult8199]

I've got an echo hca2620 hedge trimmer. I have replaced the carburetor and fuel filter and it still bogs up. Can you please advise Many thanks

[@helpinguonline]

did you try adjusting the carb? Also, aftermarket carbs can be problematic. Are your fuel lines in good shape... not cracked.

[@killthecult8199]

@@helpinguonline I don't see adjusting screw on my carburetor. Full lines in good shape

[@micclay]

I put a new carburetor on, new plug, new fuel and air filters, new fuel and vent lines. I even removed the spark arrestor screen, which wasn't dirty. Still no power. The coill is the only thing I know to do. Is there anything else you can think of?

[@helpinguonline]

Did you try adjusting the carburetor? Even the new ones have to be adjusted a bit

[@micclay]

@@helpinguonline no i didn't. The only thing i know to adjust is the idle adjustment.

[@helpinguonline]

Here ia a video that may help you. You may need a special tool to adjust your new carburetor (often they send it with the new carb)...or you can order online. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqfCgWSQr5yXiJI

[@raymondmoreno7442]

Thank you for a great video helpful

[@helpinguonline]

Glad it was helpful!

[@steveu235]

You should try to start it after putting the new filter to see if that was the problem otherwise you just waste time and maybe screw something up needlessly

[@dfu1685]

I agree, but we don’t have to move the trimmer, the camera and the tripod back outside like he does.

[@DarkTranqz]

Why the heck do they make the adjustment screws for the carb inaccessible?

[@helpinguonline]

Limiter caps and hidden carburetor adjustment screws are for government emissions control

[@ronp8865]

On old Echos they were right on top, could turn it with your fingers.

[@BigOleChief]

Awesome work!

[@helpinguonline]

thanks

[@fostermac7170]

My Echo starts up and works for about 10 minutes, then dies. I smell a lot of fuel odor, and it appears that fuel has "waterlogged" the AIR Filter. If I let it sit overnite and the fuel has dripped out of the air filter, I'm able to start it again. How do I stop the fuel from waterlogging the air fllter?

[@helpinguonline]

Sounds like your needle valve in the carburetor is sticking. I would recommend taking the carburetor apart and rebuilding it or at least cleaning it and make sure the diaphragm is not stiff but is still pliable and flexible.

[@fostermac7170]

@@helpinguonline Thanks for responding. It does appear to be a problem with the carburetor. When the air filter is not clogged, it runs fine. I'll try your advice.

[@helpinguonline]

You can do it!

[@williamclements273]

You could probably just back off the H carburetor adjustment screw to provide more gas for full throttle running, and save yourself the enjoyment of cleaning the carb.

[@jansrensen4933]

Easyfix but dont work normally

[@javypowell7908]

Thanks

[@elcholo-w9x]

is this a 40 to 1 or 50 to 1

[@helpinguonline]

I think that machine called for a 50 to 1 mix but I run 40 to one in all of my two cycle equipment for better lubrication

[@andybecker2693]

Good information but there’s a few items that I would check first before you do anything to the carb. First and foremost, make sure that the piston isn’t scored before you waste any time on a burned up engine. Second, Make sure that the exhaust is free and spark arrestor is clean. Third, make sure that the tank vent is working properly along with checking the air and fuel filters like you did. I would also make sure if you clean the carb to change both diaphragms.

[@UTube_userRM]

So, how can we check that "the piston isn't scoured"? When you check, how can you confirm that it cannot be repaired ie is some scouring acceptable? Thank you.

[@helpinguonline]

You can check for scoring on the piston by removing the muffler. Once that is removed you can see the piston to check for vertical lines scored in the piston.

[@carlodonnell146]

yes the tank vent how can I tell on the troybilt tank cover if the vent is open I don't see any marks indicating so and the cover does have a turning piece.

[@carlodonnell146]

I think a compression test would answer that question. The piston on mine is a little scored but the compression is 120 psi . If the exhaust or the carburettor intake is removed the piston is visible if you pull the starter slowly @@UTube_userRMI would say that the rings and the cyl wall are more important than the piston though; of course I am not a total expert yet!!

[@Jeunessejaniece]

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[@matthewaaron664]

So what if your unit will start and run for a couple of minutes but then just die?

[@MrSudoma]

Mostly sparkplug/cable/bobine problem

[@GaryRobinson1991]

I tried to adjust my carb, it was blowing white smoke when I was adjusting the high side I guess I got it too hot 🤦🏼‍♂️.

[@whynow4306]

I am just trying to fix mine, Got it to start now, But white smoke coming off. Will try to put new fuel (its old one there now.... and then the screw I guess)

[@dougdavid9321]

Echo egder runs and starts great, butni can't leave fuel in it. It siphons out whennit sits. I've tried standing it up, leave it flat, it doesn't matter, it still empties the fuel tank. So now i drain the fuel after ever use. Quite annoying.

[@helpinguonline]

Hast to be a leak somewhere… If the fuel is coming out of the muffler then your needle valve in the carburetor might be stuck open due to a stiff diaphragm. Otherwise I assume you have a leaky fuel line or a crack in the gas tank or loose fitting fuel lines coming through the tank or something?.

[@dougdavid9321]

@@helpinguonline it leaks out thru the muffler. Before it empties and I try to start it, it's flooded. I guess it's time to pull the carb and see what's up.

[@helpinguonline]

Most likely the needle valve is stuck open and there is a good chance that the diaphragm that operates the needle valve is stiff and no longer flexible. If that is the cause you will have to get a rebuild kit for your carb or buy an aftermarket carb to replace yours (aftermarket carbs are hit and miss in terms of quality). Lastly, your carb may have debris in it causing the needle to stick open. Cleaning the carb would remedy that.. Wishing you the best with your project. Here are a couple videos that may help you: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h327dmmXop2ZgdU kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6XKmJyQm8SrY5Y

[@dougdavid9321]

@@helpinguonline thank you so much for the advice.

[@bustertaco]

8:55 no "link in top right corner"

[@helpinguonline]

I checked and the link is there... Not sure why you can't get it on your end?

[@helpinguonline]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fn-zY3aGptWVoLM

[@bustertaco]

No link you can point anywhere on the screen

[@mattwheatley593]

I see it

[@westcoast6162]

I always remove the exhaust screen it gets full of carbon and oil and weed eater loses power, it won't fully accelerate and it will die on u

[@bustertaco]

No link

[@helpinguonline]

I double checked and the link is there.

[@helpinguonline]

When you click on the link it should take you to a page that shows the 3 linked videos I put in this video. Click on the middle link (video) and you should be able to watch it. If not here is the link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fn-zY3aGptWVoLM

[@therrienmichael08]

That is the prob with my Husqvarna 525L

[@jtharp9265]

Thank u

[@eliasalmendarezsr.1918]

Bugging down the exhaust screen is clog.

[@leroyrosario6898]

But I installed a new carburetor

[@louiswooley966]

Carb are cheap

[@spencerclarke2289]

Yall know how to make videos that seems like a easy fix but in real time that's not the case !!!!-

[@robertbowman3406]

In the interest in safety always wear hearing & eye protection when using these kind of tools.

[@rightbro]

Uh yeah, no link

[@helpinguonline]

I checked and I did put the link in... not sure why you aren't getting it?...

[@helpinguonline]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fn-zY3aGptWVoLM

[@3_too_won]

Tip 1gallon of fuel over the weed wacker light the fuel and problem solved. 🤣🤣🤣

[@louiswooley966]

Take a pic

[@kiffinbrown9299]

so no try after fuel filter clean.....so who knows why it started👎👎👎

[@steventwiddy3402]

I usually find that if I pull it about 10 times and it doesn’t start I throw a through cussing on it and usually it starts after that and if not it becomes a boomerang 🪃

[@boonskyler]

Thanks

[@helpinguonline]

No problem