Fixing Gen 6's Worst Pokemon

Pokemon X and Y, the games that completely changed the way we see Pokemon, both figuratively and literally. For the first time, we got to see a traditional Pokemon game in 3D, making the world feel more vibrant and realistic than ever. But not only that, the addition of Mega Evolutions and fairy Pokemon spiced up the scene to levels never seen before. But despite the great features added in Generation 6, to this day, it’s generally viewed as one of the worst generations in the entire series. Today, I’m going to take a look at the most underwhelming Gen 6 Pokemon and try to fix them for a playthrough. Why are they so bad? And can they be fixed? Well, let’s find out…
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[@Randroth]

Wait, Aurorus cannot learn Power Gem?! TO THIS DAY?!! That is just cruel.

[@PokemonWoop]

Game Freak moment

[@user-AADZ]

Avgn quote "What were they thinking?"

[@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8]

Pokemon with blue gems or ice crystals along its sides: Cannot learn power gem Pokemon with no gems and is made of Gold: Can learn power grem

[@yokaipinata1416]

Imagine introducing a strong special Rock-type move... and then not actually giving it to the specially oriented Rock-types. (They took forever to give it to Lunatone, too. Gen 7 I think it was?)

[@F14thunderhawk]

aurorus' only job is to use Aurora Veil and then Uturn into offensive icetypes. Same as Alolan Ninetales except even less likely to throw STAB Blizzards

[@DCONightingale]

If Gen 6 was finished, it would have been great. You will never convince me that X & Y were released in their complete forms.

[@weisstofall2615]

No pokemon game has been finished since X & Y

[@biluv]

X & Y have a crazy amount of cut content and scrapped ideas regarding story, designs and gameplay.

[@2kool4u2k9]

@@weisstofall2615 for what its worth, arceus is finished

[@DCBiscuit]

@@2kool4u2k9 We’re batting 1:50, boys!!!

[@ExoticCreep]

@@weisstofall2615 sword and shield with dlc is really good

[@CoolPorygon]

My fantasy isn't necessarily fixing Avalugg, but giving it a gimmick that might make it worse, but make it interesting - make it like a reverse Slaking. Buff the fuck out of it, bigger stats at everything, give it stupid useful offensive - but over time it starts debuffing itself, and hard. I'm talking stat decreases, randomly getting burned, it having a variation of loafing/slacking off. Because glaciers are melting. It's like a stupid commentary on global climate change or some shit.

[@GameMasterWLC]

Ice/Fire type that melts itself

[@robertlupa8273]

@@GameMasterWLC "My whole existence is suffering."

[@pixelrakurai]

4:44 it is worth noting Dedenne does get Parabolic Charge since its introduction, but at the same time this was before the move got buffed to 65 in Gen 7.

[@bewarebewear1507]

Dedenne did get parabolic charge, draining kiss, and dazzling gleam, but these things didnt really help it sadly. Aurorus was usable on lower tiers being able to use refrigerate hyper voices with thunderbolt/charge beam, or even use snow warning blizzards, it also had earth power which is a better move than power gem, aurorus wasnt meant to be a wall or physical attacker ._.

[@nazeersadek6705]

All pikaclones need evolutions

[@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8]

@@bewarebewear1507 at this point aurorus would have a much more successful career if it copied mammoswine’s homework and became an ice/ground type

[@GeneralSecura]

Uh, you want to give Avalugg Body Press in Gen 6 when Body Press wasn't introduced until Gen 8?

[@orderedrandom3793]

Was looking for this

[@GhostbusterPalu]

Yes 🗿

[@canaldecasta]

Reminds me when you could use Arceus"s signature move with metronome before Arceus released

[@williamgimenez2911]

​@@canaldecasta Not is the same , it's two gen of diference

[@averagechannelname9969]

The fact so many of my beloved Pokemon are on this list lmao. Goodra is my all time favorite and the Ice type is my favorite so like 😭😭😭

[@PokemonWoop]

Honestly, I like a lot of the Pokemon in this series, it's just that they're all sort of underwhelming

[@ralphthefrog3086]

Power creep is so bad now goodra is the first pseudo legendary to be in PU

[@emajorjr95]

I think Ice/water fits avalug since ice burgs float in the water (works with the same logic for dewgong and walrein) and definitely helps ice type defensively the best

[@Ilikesceptile11]

Bergmite isn't even found in water

[@dragonjolteon146]

​@@Ilikesceptile11You can find Bergmite and Avalugg swimming in Caseroya Lake in Scarlet and Violet. Granted, you're right that they can't be found in the water in Gen 6.

[@Enigmatic_Soldier]

i would rather give it ice/rock makes it defensive type even worse but as an upside down iceberg, the core is also a rock covered with ice

[@user-AADZ]

​@@Enigmatic_Soldieryep that's worse and makes no sense in my opinion

[@DaSheepKiller]

@@Ilikesceptile11not in gen 6, but in gen 9 it is.

[@bananaspice1967]

Thank you for making my coffee table better, he used to melt when I put my warm cups on him. Now he just gets a little soggy. Body Press wouldn't work in gen 6 tho lol, since it's a gen 8 move

[@PokemonWoop]

Yeah definitely a clown moment on my part. No idea why I thought Body Press was a gen 5 move

[@HelheimMudkip]

​​@@PokemonWoopGen 6 did add some other notable moves like flying press and power up punch, maybe you were thinking about the former

[@johnnyjohnson4265]

For some personal changes. •Goodra line has poison heal ability, like how Gliscor got it for fitting the poison type. Would allow Dragagle to remain dragon/poison while also giving it some light on Goodra. Either Dragon/Water or Dragon/Bug •Pyroar have the male and female forms swap attacking stats. For new moves EQ, Sucker Punch, Swords Dance, Nasty Plot, Dazzling gleam, and energy ball even as a reach •Gourgeist should've been the special counterpart to treveant with its attacking stats switch and already having access to some fire moves. Along with that nasty plot and moonblast

[@nicobruno9062]

Someone explain why goodra cant be bug/dragon, because snails are not bugs. So be dragon/water fit better, and it more useful than pure dragon

[@Perdometalum]

Spiders aren't bugs either, but no one complains about ariados being a bug type​@@nicobruno9062

[@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8]

@@nicobruno9062 yeah Goodra evolves from Sligoo in the rain, of which only one route in Kalos does so, and it doesn't even rain all the time there. May as well give it the stellar Dragon/Water type for all its troubles.

[@FreyRosfield]

Also give Competitive to Pyroar substituting Rivalry because that ability sucks

[@robertlupa8273]

I really like the Pyroar idea. Would make Moxie finally viable on it in some way.

[@ScarletRebel96]

A wooper a day keeps the bad thoughts away

[@Ilikesceptile11]

Especially after scrolling on r/youngpeopleyoutube

[@debraolearyart]

I have a pitch for Goodra. Give her a signature ability, let's call it "Porous," where she absorbs all hazards on her side upon entry.

[@PokemonWoop]

That would be great!

[@JoseTheAlolachu]

it’s like it’s poison type for toxic spikes but even better

[@timlieu7623]

Dear god, that'll overturn gen 9s ou meta. The entire metagame bent around Gholdengho being such a good mon at preventing hazards going away. Perfect HC on a decently statted mon will warp the meta just as much.

[@shinyarchen_39]

It’s a crime Goodra still doesn’t get Recover. That alone would be game-changing for it, and every other gastropod Pokemon can learn it. The poor thing just feels unfinished. It could’ve been so much better with even a little more thought.

[@PokemonWoop]

Yeah I have no clue how it's never been able to get it

[@Jamaluddin68068]

Im sorry goodra having magic guard makes zero sense at all, my guy pulled that explanation out of thin air and avalugg having body press despite it not existing in gen 6

[@velconx15]

Suprised to see Goodra but you brought up some interesting changes to my little guy.

[@wretchedpkmn]

Babe wake up, new woop video just dropped

[@PokemonWoop]

Big woop

[@yokaipinata1416]

The only reason I can think of why they didn't put more effort into Aurorus is that maybe they thought that "Look, an early game Ice-type!" was enough of a motive to give the player to consider Amaura. Of course, the bigger question there is, barring a few exceptions (Amaura here, Vanillite in BW midgame and I think Smoochum in USM), why do they insist on making Ice-types unavailable until the late game? Why can't we simply have early game Ice Pokémon the way we have early game Pokémon of other types? I can get Dragon, which was originally conceived as this mystified super rare type (albeit even early dragons have become a thing in later Gens), but not Ice, which is kinda "just another element".

[@Mirawaru]

Ice was also conceptualized as a boss type, and the offensive counterpart to dragon being the boss "defensive counterpart" When you think of its gen 1 type interactions ut makes even more sense, since the only two types that resist were actually just water (the intended main defensive type, and itself) while instead hitting for super effective other common types like grass and flying.

[@animevillainscourge8074]

thank you for doing the goomy line justice... theyre some of my favorite psuedo legendaries but theyre an absolute NIGHTMARE to use in game

[@PokemonWoop]

Yeah, sucks that Goodra doesn't stand out very much. I love its design

[@animevillainscourge8074]

@@PokemonWoop agreed! i love its design as well. sadly it seems 'mediocre pokemon with an awesome design' is a bit of a running theme in gen 6...

[@irritatorgoner1087]

Peak has returned🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣 I think of a way to fix avalugg, which is turning him into a ice/ground pokemon. I also create a little backstory for this: when avalugg got separated for his original habitat (the arctic), he quickly started to find for a cold place to stay, which turned out to maily be cold mountains, there he would start to consume some of the mountain minerals, explaining his hisuian form, and them along the years becoming a ice/ground walking mountain, sliding from the top to the bottom, sort like a avalanche. What you think?

[@karanXd]

For a route 1 pokemon Diggersby is pretty fking good actually

[@PokemonWoop]

I will say, part ground does help it stand out

[@robertlupa8273]

...if it has Huge Power.

[@PhilipMurphy8]

A Woop video, this is a good day

[@PokemonWoop]

Wooper is life...

[@xhomiegreninjax137]

I think one of my favorite X and Y memories was randomly deciding to do Wifi battles with my ingame team and in one match my Goodra managed to beat a Xerneas cause I taught it Sludge Bomb

[@Rainfire-forgets-to-animate]

My idea for arourus is for it to be an ice/fairy type instead of ice/rock. Tyrunt could be pure rock, and amaura pure ice, then they both gain secondary types that counter each other upon evolving. Tyrantrum's rock counters arourus's ice, and arourus's new fairy type counters tyrantrum's new dragon

[@tedariustaylor8473]

Goodra should've been Dragon/fairy in my opinion. Would've been the perfect representation for the new type

[@ufailowell]

goodra and avalugg actually pair pretty well together especially in a rain team. nullify avalugg’s fire weakness and give goodra the option to rest to full health

[@pierrehenridube3150]

5:22 Mimikyu “am I a joke to you”

[@CookieGal-]

it's not a pika clone

[@stretchpunchbeef8982]

A dragon based on algae Dragalj

[@mazharsiddiqi7288]

Great improvements Aurorus is interesting because with Snow Warning hidden ability, new Ice type Snow Phys Def boost and Aurora Veil it can get tankier and then spam 100% accurate Blizzard Can also stand in Sand for SpeDef boost if opponent switches weather

[@Noggin-msm-u6p]

I wonder how woop can write without hands

[@tserrofz9]

for Avalug id lean more into its gimmick. Id give it a defense version of Pure Power so if its not super effective its not gonna care. a counter part to blissy. Im a bit out of the meta but isnt there an ice type rapid spin too? Aurora Screens, body press, snow day and icicle spear or if i havent gaslit myself the ice rapid spin.

[@cheeseburgerlazers]

if the ice type wasnt straight up booty as a whole so many bad pokemon would be fixed

[@OPGardevoir]

Avalug can't learn body press in gen 6 because it didn't exist

[@ed-fr3mx]

adding the secondary water type to goodra wouldn't be too crazy of an idea! especially when goomy is able to use bubble in pokemon unite & goodra's ultimate is called "right as rain", would have definitely been something cool to see!

[@jaretco6423]

The reason why Gen. 6 is considered the worst is not from the fact that there fewer new Pokemons and there all forgettable. But because it's the most incomplete & easiest game of the entire franchise.

[@osc9097]

I think its the worst because of the pokedex lmao

[@jaretco6423]

@@osc9097 Seriously? I though Gen. 6 Pokedex were great. Some of the best in the series. Gen. 3 & 4 had far worst dex.

[@gabrielcalderon6715]

​@@jaretco6423 specially diamond and pearl just 2 fire types

[@PokemonWoop]

True. I'm hoping that Z-A gives us a lot more Kalos depth

[@jaretco6423]

@@gabrielcalderon6715 Platinum isn't any better either. Only 5 lines of Fire type Pokemon isn't enough. And no. Heatran doesn't count cause it's an Legendary and is only available at postgame. Neither is Rotom cause it didn't get the Fire type till Gen. 5.

[@ThatOneRedDitto]

Trevenant is one of my favorite Ghost types (which is saying a lot since ghost is my favorite type). I love it's design, shiny and so much more. Game Freak just sadly screwed it over in the move department :( Oh and a weird fact I know about Trevenant is that it's only 4'11. Which is weird, you'd think a tree Pokemon would be a lot taller than that.

[@ijstinson8787]

6:57 I don’t hate any of meowstics abilities, but I would prefer if their hidden abilities were swapped with Infiltrator. You’re never going to get a HA Espurr during a normal playthrough, so you technically can’t experience the full gimmick of this species until post game. Besides, Infiltrator is already a decent ability to lock behind the HA wall.

[@yokaipinata1416]

Also, if the whole point of Meowstic was going to be to give them different roles, I don't understand why they gave both of them the exact same stats.

[@ijstinson8787]

@@yokaipinata1416 Definitely! Can’t say much for female, but male meowstic NEEDS to run screens in order to have the defensive profile it’s movepool requires. Also kinda strange it doesn’t have a reliable recovering option.

[@felman87]

Every time I see you upload a video, I find myself saying "WOOP!"

[@dvillines26]

regarding stats, several of these Pokemon need minmaxing. Anything that doesn't need or use one of its attacking stats much can have points taken from there and moved to other stats.

[@bugaboo_daisy9000]

I would die for Goodra

[@PokemonWoop]

Goomy best 1st form psuedo

[@Victini0510]

We can arrange that

[@Mario87456]

Goodra is not a terrible Pokémon stat wise. Because there is NO bad pseudo legendary Pokémon or any bad fully evolved Dragon type Pokémon.

[@echo5172]

If Woop and Droomish ever colabed i think i would lose my mind

[@JustaGr8GuyHere]

Been waiting for this! Btw, if I could completely rework Aurorus… make it Ice/Fairy. “Oh, but it’s a fossil”; yeah, and..?

[@PumpkinLeaf_]

Trevenant getting Glare wouldn't make much sense, since the move's Japanese name is "Snake Glare" (hence why only reptilian Pokémon can learn it).

[@animesjogoseseriesclassica8282]

They gave the Goodra line Bide. I am convinced that anyone that does that to a Pokemon wants him to suffer on some level. 😂😂😂

[@BlaqueT]

At least a saving grace for Trev is that it's pretty good in Pokemon Unite. Love my haunted tree. Thanks for the new video, woop!

[@ginwilliam7763]

Man, I wish you uploaded more consistently. Your voice with contemplative, almost creepy music is so soothing lol.

[@clothieredward5248]

The big issue with Avalugg is 1000% its typing. It's a defensive Pokemon shackled to the worst defensive type in the game. Avalugg would be so much better if the Ice type actually gained some resistances.

[@baxterbruce9827]

Defensive typings in contention for being as bad as pure ice Bug/Flying That's about it Someone needs to tell Game Freak they will never make a slow bulky ice type work unless it's bulk is on Eternamax level or they just change the type chart

[@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8]

@@baxterbruce9827 No no. There's also Rock/Ground. Just like ice it was ok in first gen and progressively fell off a cliff in later gens.

[@josephbulkin9222]

You know, there is a simple solution to this, I find. Novel strategy. Dont pit Avalugg against pokemon who deal supereffective damage to it.

[@baxterbruce9827]

@@josephbulkin9222 putting aside that it's weaknesses are mostly VERY COMMON coverage types or some of the best in the game, it's also a lot thinner on the special side and lacks resistances to REALLY capitalize on that statline

[@FatherOfDeinos]

To fix Goodra I think they need to delete it entirely and use the Hisuian variant as the only one that ever existed. Also I’d love to see regenerator on it.

[@josepharmstrong1788]

If Aurorus was in Scarlet and Violet, I guarantee it would have actually been BETTER with only adding Power Gem. It already learns Earth Power, which pairs fantastic with Ice and Rock offensively. However, it’s the change from Hail to Snow is what benefits Aurorus the most DEFENSIVELY. With a 50% increase to that 72 defense, it becomes a defensive tank that can even survive a 4* weakness strike. That sure seems fine and dandy, but it needs to set up the snow first. Oh wait, it has Snow Warning for an ability. OK, but even with that ability, it’s still going to get pain. Oh wait, it also learns Aurora Veil. Heck, Aurorus has been able to SLAUGHTER lower tiers WITHOUT the change to Ice’s relationship to Snow. Imagine how much MORE damage it could do WITH the Snow buff. Oh, and it also naturally learns Freeze-Dry, an Ice move that dramatically increases any Ice type’s viability.

[@PokemonWoop]

Agreed. No clue why it still can't learn Power Gem

[@cellP8]

it makes 100% sense for Steelix and Aurorus to learn diamond storm, im sick of signatures moves not being distributed.

[@aprils1888]

One day people will realize that gen 6 is actually THE BEST!!!

[@bigchungus7870]

Refrigerate is a cool ability for avalugg that fits it thematically. Gives it consistent stab with body slam.

[@mikaelcrucible]

trevenant was weirdly OU around the start of gen 6 in smogon singles. it quickly fell off since it was new toy syndrome of course but yeah

[@KraylebStudios]

Delphox really should have been Fire/Fairy while Florges should have been Fairy/Grass to be honest... the pokedex is almost as unfinished as Johto

[@DCONightingale]

Would you believe me if I said I actually did use Trevenant on my first gen 6 play through?

[@savsga]

7:29 I used it! ... Kinda. I was using a Gogoat as my grass type for much of my first Kalos playthrough, but replaced it with Trevenant when I found one before the eighth gym.

[@dippyfresh1635]

They need to give ice more resistances if they want to fix the type

[@PokemonWoop]

Agreed. It's long overdue for some fixes

[@exeggutivejudge3747]

Didn't Ice get buffed by getting a Defense raise in the Snow in Gen 9?

[@sjgames9104]

8:47 I can control my blood cells to make my rod stiff so that means I can use attack order

[@chrisjohnsen8448]

Yet another video where I've personally used every Pokemon on the list and had zero issue in a playthrough. :P This series doesn't seem to focus much on the truly unusable ones.

[@darkdragon7210]

Um, 1st viable Pika Clone; Bro Pachirsu became the World Champ!!!

[@m.hpf.1294]

Avalugg in Pokemon Snap is in water, its made of ice and thats.. water.. I would make it Ice/Water and give it moves like Aqua Jet, Hydropump, Aqua Ring, Flip Turn, Rain Dance and Water Spout

[@ADi-qc8wx]

For Furfrou I would increase it's stats just a little and I would give it an ability that increases defenses until receiving a fire or slashing move, when it would loose this boost and get one in speed instead (this is to reflect its haircut gimmick)

[@evanherynk5863]

I love Trevenant! I had a pretty nasty bulky set that did work during online battles back in the day. Harvest is an awesome ability.

[@o_o1241]

Ice type reallyyyy needs an overhaul. I feel like it should be super effective against water (since many ice moves could seemingly freeze water) and definitely have more resistances against flying or poison even, just something to give it some sort of defensive profile

[@matthewarmento4363]

I would add Slurpuff and Aromatisse to this list because they have such interesting designs, but unfortunately the work you have to put in to get either one isn't conplimented by good Stats or interesting battle capabilities

[@waltterikoponen8426]

I have some of my own ideas for dedenne and meowstic even if it's a bit late... (Also, i'm doing this as in gen 9 etc.) And I do not care about balancing, I want my favourite kalos pokemon to be good :) Dedenne: - moonblast (do i need to write more?) - alluring voice (minun and plusle got this move but fairy type pika clone didnt??!) - instead of pickup, dedenne would have battery - plus as a hidden ability would be changed to technician so dedenne can use more moves and such (draining kiss etc.) Or adaptability to make stab better Meowstic: - i would keep the stats as same - both learn dazzling gleam (should have been since the begining but no...) And draining kiss (because I want so), snarl (works better for female as in personality but male could use it too for support etc.) - female should learn moonblast, aura sphere, burning jealousy - male would learn instruct (from mirror herb in gen 9) for fun :D, life dew, cosmic power, acupressure

[@jancelabobo8238]

5:19 who else was scared that their monitor/phone is broken suddenly?

[@secondbeamship]

If only the ice type resisted water and ground. I’d make bug resist fairy. (I’d even go so far as to make normal strong against fairy.) Some Pokémon are just made to be bad and only loved. Auroras could also get some psychic moves. Also, I could see Avalugg having some more points in special defense as well.

[@BrandNewDeath]

Thanks for the Trevenant buff! I have a tattoo of Phantump and my boy deserved better.

[@pandamonium9362]

ROM hacks fix it all for me, I can never play a console Pokémon ever again. Something about making regular Pokémon more usable and available without all the gimmicks just make ROM hacks a no brainer.

[@VaddyLemon]

Counterpoint to you trying to 'fix' Aurorus so someone would pick it. Tyrantrum is a dragon type T-Rex. Why would you pick anything else? That is all.

[@TheMaz878]

So 1: Trevenant was in fact the last pokemon I added to my gen 6 team (named him Hallow) And 2: I would absolutely love if it got all the moves you gave it here

[@2kool4u2k9]

'first viable pika clone since pikachu' HOW DARE YOU DISRESPECT PACHIRISU LIKE THAT Also Aurorus is so bad, you could just give it a unique move like flying press. Slushball: 80BP, 90% acc Ice Type move. "This move is also treated as a rock type move, successful hit has a 50% chance to raise the users def by 1 stage" Basically gives it more of a niche of 'use this mon to wreck flying types'

[@PokemonWoop]

They need to make more dual typed moves. Such an underused idea

[@luis_zuniga]

I'd give Pyroar Intimidate and let it learn Yawn, Slack off, Energy ball, Psychic Noise and Boomburst

[@FreyRosfield]

One thing I'd suggest changing in Goodra, is since Hisuian Goodra is also defensive but way better than Kalosian Goodra, I'd switch some of it's special defense for more offensive power, maybe taking 50 points out of it's Special Defense, putting 30 in it's speed, so that it reaches 110, then 10 more on each of it's attack stats, so that they reach 110 and 120 This way we have a mildly speedy mixed attacker than can have a niche in between it's peers, since most of the Pseudo-Legendaries are physical attackers and having a strong mixed attacker that has a niche that's different from it's regional form also gives new life to it

[@snivypwnz]

Babe look! Woop dropped a new fixing bad but also my favorite looking pokemon!

[@amaury1664]

Let's make a petition for Nintendo to rework the ice type! Some pokemon changed type (Magneton, Marill...), it wouldn't be stupid for the ice type to change its resistances/weaknesses after years

[@PokemonWoop]

Ice is long overdue for more resistances

[@yokaipinata1416]

More to the point, type interactions have already been changed before. In Gen 2, Poison and Bug went from being weak to each other to the former doing neutral damage to, and resisting, the latter. While in Gen 6, Steel went from resisting Ghost and Dark to taking neutral damage from them. So changing Ice right now wouldn't feel out of place. It has precedent.

[@malick9549]

​@@yokaipinata1416also lmao for some reason in gen 1 fire didn't resist ice so they actually "nerfed" it in gen 2.

[@yokaipinata1416]

@malick9549 Right, I forgot that one. Well there it is! Ice was changed before, so it can be changed again! ❤️ (Another one I forgot is making Ghost actually beat Psychic but that was a programming oversight so I don't really "count" it)

[@Wheaty03]

poison definitely fits goodra better than water. yeah it likes the rain but it literally produces slime. slime seems more of a poison thing rather than a water thing. i was gonna say this wouldn't overshadow dragalge because dragalge is more attack oriented while goodra is a tank but dragalge's best stat is also special defense which is really dumb imo. dragalge looks far more like an offensive mon rather than a defensive one

[@lifeaccordingtoeli]

Ice fairy typing for aurorus would be really cool

[@alexdonathen5671]

Ice should resist, grass, flying, ground.

[@BigPoppa931]

Ice should be neutral to rock and resist water. Boom, type fixed.

[@machinat3636]

Make it super effective against bug too. Since bugs die off in the winter

[@nazeersadek6705]

@@machinat3636bug is literally the worst type in the game and you want to make it worse?

[@rjante2236]

Ice should resist Electric and Fairy.

[@nazeersadek6705]

@@rjante2236 electric and water would be better and then you can make bug resist fairy

[@Fullbuster32]

Avalugg would benefit a lot from getting recover at the very least, I would definitely give it that. Honestly I also think you could give it its own signature ability that works like leftovers also since it would go with the dex entry you mentioned, idk what the name would be but both these would DRASTICALLY help it out. Its a defensive pokemon of the worst defensive type without recovery. If it could run heavy duty boots and still have leftovers recovery + recover as a move it would be SO much better

[@ComboFood]

I hate that half of my top 4 Pokémon from this region are on this list, Goodra and Aurourus (the other two are Tyrantrum and Delphox) I get why those two are here it’s just sad

[@waterierStone]

I feel like since the speed stat is kinda nonsense you could easily give aurorus and avalugg higher speed. Meganium has 80 speed and Metagross has 70 speed, so there's no reason that the two slow ice types couldn't be faster. I think they just decide on the stats of the 4 attacking and defensive stats first, then they give out the rest to hp and speed.

[@PokemonWoop]

Hm, yeah I could see Aurorus getting maybe 70-80 speed, but no way Avalugg is moving any faster lol

[@ULTRAV01D]

10:16 Body press didn't come out until gen 8

[@thatoneguy9057]

Speak for yourself, I could never forget the beauty and tragedy that is Gen 6

[@PrinceTalonSabre]

The fact Dedenne didnt get Dazzling Gleam at least via TM had me questioning where all logic in pokemon games went. Gen 5 had a few oversights, like Beheeyem getting Steel Wing, but ever since we hit gen 6, it feels like this kinda sht's in every game, with no fks or fixes given. WHY DOES GREAT TUSK GET PSYSHOCK??

[@nightspawnson-of-luna4936]

I don't think Beheeyem getting Steel Wing was a mistake... It's TM 51 after all

[@PokemonWoop]

Yeah, no clue how they thought Play Rough was a more fitting fairy move than Dazzling Gleam on a cute electric rodent

[@Nutleaf420]

Magic guard is such an unfitting ability for goodra lol wtf

[@PkmnTrainerEmerald]

Hopefully with ZA coming they give some buffs! They did so in legends Arceus as Cherrim in sunny form now has buffed stats. The movepool is honestly what some if these pokemon need to be good look at how Zamazenta was not the best in gen 8 but in gen 9 now with it having body press that changed 😊

[@Jasonwolf1495]

Im a believer in every pokemon getting more unique stuff. I really wish more pokemon had unique moves or abilities to help make them good.

[@Duck_Praise]

Sap sipper is not unfitting thematically because it is a slug

[@johnmadden2434]

Body press is warranted on most of these picks, but it didn’t exist in Gen 6

[@Yoda_Gaming1738]

when I look at the gen 6 fossil pokemon I cant help but feel like they should be mythicals. Easily the best designs of any fossil pokemon ever, and until gen 8, they were always super unique, like seriously a dragon type tyrannosaurus and a glacial sauropod, it just screams "I had more thought put into my design then my practicality" both pokemon are pretty bad by gen 9 standards, which is why if there were mythical, nobody would bat an eye giving them base 650 base stat totals

[@PieEyeToon]

Avalugg and Aurorus are otherwise solid mons that are mostly held back by their typing. Avalugg would be a much more effective physical tank if Ice wasn't such a fundamentally flawed type. Just a couple extra resistances would already be a big help. Regular Avalugg could also maybe get Regenerator or Filter and Hisuian 'Lugg could get Solid Rock. Both could maybe use a small Sp.Def buff. As for Aurorus, Rock/Ice is such an atrocious defensive typing that unless you buff both types to unrecognizability it's gonna be doomed no matter what. I would just straight up change its typing, probably to pure Ice or Ice/Dragon. I know the Rock type is a fossil Pokemon tradition but I've never really cared for it personally. Specifically when it seems arbitrarily tacked on like on Archeops and Aurorus. And Rock type or no, I'd also give it Power Gem, for obvious reasons.

[@Spiderpig2398]

10:18 / 12:50 Body Press can't be in their Gen 6 movelists because that's, uh, a gen 8 move. Also, speaking as someone who used Avalugg in their first playthrough of XY, it... was pretty mediocre, yeah! Still, did what it could incredibly well. Sometimes all you need is a thing that eats physical hits for lunch and it's able to do that well enough ingame. Even if it wishes it had more going for it.

[@nightspawnson-of-luna4936]

Ironically enough even though some of these pokemon aren't very good... They've got some of my favorite designs... Aurous and Amaura are probably some of my favorite fossil pokemon designs...Which Is probably why I end up picking them every time... (Although I don't like the weird time based evo method they went with for those fossils...) and I love Espurr... It's basically the Carrie White of Pokemon... And Goodra is pretty cool too... It's kind of Like Dragonite in that it's an awesome pseudo Dragon type that looks really derpy...

[@RealCaptainAwesome]

Love or hate Galar, I appreciate that they took the rock off of fossils

[@JoseTheAlolachu]

The way I run Dedenne is cheek pouch sitrus berry, substitute, and recycle. It’s not the best thing in the world, but it’s a fun build

[@hysloth3137]

I feel like a lot of pokemon's issues are that they have terrible level up sets. I shouldnt have to get tms for a fun in game team (especially when you only had 1 tm so if you wanted to play competitive you hope you didnt waste a good tm)

[@benediktwindisch2778]

these games were very beautiful for a handheld and the megas were awesome (I also loved the idea to get the megas in the Gen 3 remakes. They brought me back to Pokemon after I skipped gen5 and started with Crystal back in 2001). Even storywise it's one of the better gens in my opinion. It's such a shame that these games are so easy and why do only the champ and evil team boss have megas?

[@PokemonWoop]

I agree. I was blown away by X when I bought it upon release. Sadly, I quickly realized they're unbelievably easy