Fixing Transformers One: Spoilers Ahoy

[@phantom_games6500]

The reason elita is fired but not d-16 or Orion is because they are under her command, meaning anytime the messed up it comes back to elita.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

But she was already fired, meaning they were now the people to punish, especially since you see her give her bars to Orion, meaning he was the next person in rank.

[@yeeessimusprime3422]

@@PerspectiveEndand what does that have to do with them needing to be fired?

[@dr.deadpool5959]

@@PerspectiveEndbruhh you a transformers fan why are you so pissy washy about every detail in the movie. Yall finally got a good transformers movie and yall still finding things to complain about. You had to go frame by frame to prove a point.

[@OogaBooga24723]

@@dr.deadpool5959toxic positivity

[@Siderune]

@@PerspectiveEnd wdym she was fired first why would there be 2 firings?

[@yaboig187]

I feel like D-16's crashout was valid cause imagine basically being forcibly crippled from birth and that your every struggle and discrimination in your life and being seen as a lower life form and working one the most hardest and dangerous jobs cause your existence is seen as worthless all because of one bot that you yourself and your entire species have been glazing for like your entire life i see him having all this anger and rage building up for so unfathomably long and having to hold it in and when you learn your entire life is a lie all that rage finally comes bursting out making you irrational and not think straight and the only thing you want to do is rip the bot responsible limb from limb and your best friend who constantly gets the both of yall in trouble and doesn't listen to you who from your perspective is a obstacle in your way constantly and when you get the chance to get rid of that obstacle you take the chance D-16 caught Orion but Megatron let him go

[@DaBlankMan]

Yeah, that’s the perfect explanation of the intended arc. However, I feel they didn’t have enough time to flesh his arc out. It kinda felt forced, y’know?

[@zyphr07reviews83]

Completely agree, plus he was just betrayed by his idle who he just found out murdered (and got to watch btw) his other idle. That may make anyone snap. I would say that I would’ve preferred Megatron having been slightly insane

[@nordicfrost]

The T-Cog of Megatronus he pulled from Sentinel further corrupted him and finalized his character arc.

[@OogaBooga24723]

@@nordicfrostweren’t the primes good guys though?

[@RyanLemke-Doyle]

Please split into sentences man, i had so much trouble understanding 😭😭🙏 Anyways yeah i absolutely agree, and i think he's valid to believe as he did

[@Actar_Raikit]

10:23 Optimus turned his axe upwards at the last minute to avoid cleaving through Megatron's head... it even left a sloping cut on the canon. I thought it was a really good detail put in by the animators.

[@Frozen_Death_Knight]

Exactly. Optimus had the opportunity to end Megatron multiple times during that fight and even said beforehand that he wanted a peaceful resolution. Optimus unlike Megatron still remained as himself at the end and pretty understandably was reluctant to cleave the head of his former best friend. Not to mention that it goes back to Orion's willingness to spare Sentinel by carrying out justice accordingly instead of pure vengeance. In fact, it would be very hypocritical of Optimus to execute Megatron right then and there after the lengths he went to spare Sentinel from a brutal execution by Megatron, especially when Megatron's anger was pretty justified considering Sentinel's crimes. Optimus wanted Sentinel to pay, but not by executing him on the spot and let him be fairly judged before passing judgement. Naturally he would do the same for Megatron, which is why he deliberately cleaved only the cannon and finally banished him.

[@M_HeckuvaDoor_king]

Pretty sure Elita and Bee thought Megs was gonna kill everyone because he yelled "BURN IT DOWN, ALL OF IT"

[@Achieme]

Plus when they tried to tell him it's over he said it's over when i say it's over

[@RichardHunslet1963]

Yeah, Megatron and the High Guard blowing up statues so suddenly could've gotten people killed from falling debris

[@fegreninja7197]

You can see citizens running away in fear of the falling debris, so I just assumed Elita’s comment on how D was going to kill everyone was more from the collateral damage paired with his rage blinding him

[@vaggos2003]

We live in a timeline where Fixing TFOne came before Fixing Kingdom which will probably come before GTA6.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I need to hurry up and record Fixing Kingdom.

[@vaggos2003]

@@PerspectiveEnd This will be good.

[@matthewodonnellgavaghan]

I want Fixing Kingdom too. But screw GTA6, wheres the winds of winter at?

[@vaggos2003]

@@matthewodonnellgavaghan That too!

[@m0stlyGh0sty]

Personally, the reason I've not had a problem with D-16's shift into Megatron, is because you have to keep in mind that he's had his entire reality, his entire existence and labor invalidated and proven false. We're shown most of the movie that he's always the one who wants to follow the rules and stick to protocol, but occasionally gets into trouble with Orion. (Now I do kinda agree maybe he shouldn't have been so pleased with everything he does, to reinforce this, but I rest my case) At the point where he's holding him over the pit, he knows his friend well enough to know that he won't stop trying to stop him, even with a giant hole through his body. He doesn't believe that Cybertron's corruption will simply end with Sentinel being dethroned (which is a very rational thing to think) and he's ready to give up everything to end it. It's not meant to be a rational decision, or one we agree with, he's obviously lost it by this point, and it leads to one of my favorite moments where Optimus says "and you betrayed me." and Megatron refers to him as just "Prime" because his friend is nothing more than another false leader to him now. Another obstacle. I love that they recontextualized Megatron always calling Optimus just Prime with that one scene. I loved this movie, and can't wait to see it again when it releases on 4k/digital. Personally a 9/10.

[@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933]

One thing I will say about the 13 Primes here (Despite they couldn't even play a game of Among Us to save their own skins) is that the art department really cooked with the designs for them in this movie. I mean Quintus Prime has six arms, Amalgamous Prime has a face that looks like the grill of a Bentley, Nexus Prime looks like he walked straight out of Macross/Robotech, Megatronus Prime looks like Tarn, Prima looks like Ultra Magnus, Liege Maximo looks like if Loki a good guy, Solus Prime looks like Nautica from the IDW comics but a bit more buff, Alchemist Prime actually looks like a scientist, Vector Prime is just a near one-to-one of his original self but in new colors, Alpha Trion hvaing a triangular shaped head was odd for me at first but now I think it makes him stand out more, Onyx Prime not being a centaur for once is interesting, Micronus Prime looks like a Dwarf from Lord of the rings/The Hobbit, and Zeta Prime actually looks like a proud and noble king with a smile that says "I care for my subjects as if they were my own family".

[@L0rdskywarp]

Yes, this film could have used improvement, but I cannot pretend that I did not enjoy every second of it. I cannot give this film less than a 12.7/10

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Why the .7?

[@L0rdskywarp]

@@PerspectiveEnd need to be precise

[@trini967]

I think that D-16 is shown to be “accepting” of his lot in life only through not really having the ability to change it. He has learned helplessness because of how the cogless bots are treated. Reflecting on that “i got it” scene I think is showing d-16 become more comfortable with pushing back against others. He was a bit of a people pleaser and with people pleasing comes repressed resentment. I still need to go back and watch it a second time. However I think that d-16 serves as a more complex character in how power and circumstances don’t really change or corrupt, but give you the ability to impose your will in a way different from before.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

That's an interesting read of that interaction, however I'd say that it was played so offputtingly intentionally they were showing that he was crazy, rather than he was pushing back.

[@ACookie3994]

I dont think the iacon 5000 should be cut. It serves a critical role as what orion and d16 mean for the miners. They both start as a symbol of hope for the miners showing that even miners are worthy of being treated equally, and characterize optimus as someone who longs for equality and megatron slowing beginning to understand what optimus wants after meeting sentinal after the race, where he begins to understand that they have become a beacon of hope for the miners. It also serves as a point of how they started with the same goals, and their different ideals reaching a vastly different conclusion, making their breakup even more tragic.But i do agree the parts after that and elita being weird 8:35 he’s probably worthy because even to a horrible evil sadistic asshole, he still treats him as someone with the capacity to change, and believes that peace should be the foundation of a new just society

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I think if that's what they were going for with that, then they needed to have the adoration they earned for participating get shown at some point before they came back to Iacon at the end. To be fair in my Ideal version of the movie I didn't cut it, I just made it make more sense in it's place in the narative. I don't know that he was seeing the Good in Sentinel, just that he thought it would be bad to end a Revolution with a Public execution.

[@Jestyalt]

I don’t think it was that Orion saw good in him, it was more so that D16 was going too far and Orion was trying to stop him, by that point Sentinel had already lost, people knew the truth and he was already damaged and weaked, Orion was saving him because there is no point in killing him, it would be pointless bloodshed which why he tried stopping D ultimate ending his life

[@Achieme]

​@@PerspectiveEndthey kinda did though, when Sentinel showed up he commend them for not only nearly doing the impossible but inspiring the other bots to work harder even calling them legends once he left

[@nemesisproductions5987]

I just LOVE how much of an asshole Sentinal is, it’s just so funny how evil he is

[@prithvishyamalan824]

They NEEDED to show why Megatronus prime meant so much to D-16 other than the fact that he was the most powerful prime and go into more depth into his change of heart

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Yeah his reasons for being into Megatronus feel really shallow.

[@ParadoxFree]

I feel like you're really underselling just how much D-16 idolized both Sentinel and Megatronus. He totally believed in the system even more than Orion and after that was shattered it sent him spiraling in the opposite direction.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I think they undersold that. And did D16 Idealize Sentinel more than he cared about Orion?

[@ParadoxFree]

@@PerspectiveEndI meant like D16 believed it more that Orion believed it.

[@lightningstrxu]

I do think they could've shifted the shift to a second movie. Honestly they should've tweaked it to instead of Orion being against Sentinel being killed at all to just saying he will stand trial before all of cybertron and they will decide his fate. Basically State execution vs just shooting him in the streets. Like optimus isn't against killing usually, just not liking cold blooded murder and wanted to make more of an example to the people. My biggest issue was at the end i just sat there like...."what about the quintessons?" Like there’s an entire army just waiting for you and just doesn't matter i guess

[@I_like_Plants130]

Yeah, I was confused about Optimus too. I thought it was weird how he was okay with his friends merking sentinel’s underlings, but hated the idea of giving sentinel what he deserved. I agree with your statement. If they went that route it would be similar to the trial of Megatron in the comics, and I like that. Yeah, I was wondering about the quintessons too, maybe they are/were saving it for a sequel??

[@starstruck8862]

To be fair, I'd argue that they would have ideally had D's and Orion's break-up in a second movie, with the fallout and war being in the third, but I imagine they couldn't guarantee a trilogy so they put what they could in the first movie, but I agree with your sentiment.

[@fegreninja7197]

He was okay with killing in the heat of battle, not murdering a downed enemy

[@APeacefulPineaple]

I think of megatron dropping Orion like this d-16 did anything Orion wanted no matter how dangerous so when d-16 wants to get his revenge on sentinel Orion stops him from doing something he wants despite doing anything for Orion

[@FoxsDumbSeriesMaker]

I completely agree with you about the “not defending Sentinel” part. Save the shocking sacrifice for Optimus when he would protect a different villain: One that has done bad things, but may have had good intentions in the long run. Due to his increasingly aggressive behaviour, Megatron simply wouldn’t agree with that approach and would end up shooting Optimus by accident. A really good movie, but some tweaks would make it damn near perfect!

[@fegreninja7197]

I don’t think Orion was defending Sentinel though. He’d be less hesitant if Sentinel stood trial and faced justice from the people, it’s just taking matters in your own hands and making that decision yourself sets a bad precedent. At the end of the day Orion was trying to defend D-16 from losing himself to someone that wasn’t worth it

[@zefmaka8603]

2:27 I got that you were referring to Elita after watching the movie, and I got that when you were talking about making Elita unlikable was thinking Orion and D16k should've left Jazz to die. Sorry for bad grammar.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Don't worry about the Grammar, and some other people didn't get it, so I thought I should address it.

[@zefmaka8603]

​@@PerspectiveEndImagine if instead of Sentinel getting ripped in half, four Decepticons held him down and Megatron ripped out "his" t-cog while he was alive then Megatron grew tentacles out of his mouth and started ripping apart Sentinel and eating him.

[@demoniccharcoal]

@@zefmaka8603w..what?

[@zefmaka8603]

​@@demoniccharcoalSorry, I forgot that Sentinel was kept alive and is used as jewelry for high ranking members of the Decepticons as an induction ceremony.

[@steveplaceholder6522]

5:10 think it achieves the brothership of orion and D, and also to get this image in our head that sentinel is a good prime due to him being so friendly after the race so that the reveal hits even harder

[@PerspectiveEnd]

They could put that anywhere else without a 10 minute action scene.

[@reaps2197]

A perspective 7/10 is an IGN 9/10

[@Cent_Reviews]

Ironic considering IGN gave this movie a 5

[@KoalaTheBestt]

​@@Cent_ReviewsI think IGN is a bit of a stupid.

[@Cent_Reviews]

@@KoalaTheBestt yeah

[@Cyberutopia-Enjoyer]

I love the 13 prime designs.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Some of them are better than the normal ones, some of them I don't really see as much of an upgrade though.

[@Cyberutopia-Enjoyer]

@@PerspectiveEnd Amalgamous prime, alchemist prime, nexus prime, and liege maximo are my favourites.

[@Cyberutopia-Enjoyer]

Something about the evilest of the primes having a holy colour scheme makes a lot of sense.

[@froggyl7472]

The Iacon 5000 was very much shoved in to keep kid’s attention while the movie wordbuilds and establishes D-16 and Orion’s relationship better:

[@munchies8244]

Something I kinda wish is that instead of Optimus coming up to beat megatron and lead cybertron I wish that megatron killed sentinel and then became the leader of cybertron , and he leads the charge against the quintasons, and the post credit scene shows how a lot of bots are unsatisfied with the way that megatron is leading cybertron, and that is when you have Optimus emerge to form the autobot cause

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I think with the way they had Megatron drop Orion it wasn't possible to have that end. If maybe Orion died, and then Megatron in a rage at Sentinel Dropped him to get Revenge that could have worked. But there's no way the guy who threw away the new Matrix Chose Prime could have ruled, as the Matrix is what gave everyone life.

[@markpearson5676]

My biggest problem is the high guard becoming the deceptions as they where loyal to the primes yet they turn on Optimus prime. I think it would have been better if they where survivors of ruined cities of vos and kaon meaning there used to survive on the surface and have probably experienced combat with the quintisons and iacon

[@PerspectiveEnd]

There should have been more of a Split with the High Guard, and why Optimus just banished them all for the actions of Megatron is a little unfair.

[@markpearson5676]

@@PerspectiveEnd same with the citizens of iacon. In the leaderboard for the race we see many deceptions including the stunticons. If it does get a sequel I'd imagine they'll tackle the quintison war and address this

[@Frozen_Death_Knight]

​@@PerspectiveEnd Well, all the High Guard were cheering Megatron on during his victory speeches against both Starscream and Sentinel as well as swore allegiance to Megatron. I can agree that their motivations could have been fleshed out a bit more, but they very clearly were there to wreck Iacon and destroy every piece left of the regime. The chief commanders Starscream, Soundwave, and Shockwave all tried to kill Optimus Prime when he was fighting Megatron one on one, so the High Guard were definitely duplicit in carrying out Megatron's will of destroying the city and its citizens. Not to mention that the High Guard from their first introductory scene explicitly had a desire to crush Sentinel's rule completely and they had become unhinged after fighting guerilla wars against Sentinel's regime ever since the Primes were killed. They only survived that long because of their combat experience as elite soldiers, but were ineffective at actually toppling the regime until D-16/Megatron brought the necessary leadership ingredients to give them purpose again. Their guerilla backstory reminded me of a real life story of a WW2 Japanese soldier who had become isolated on an island and waged war for decades until he finally got the orders to stand down by military superiors after not believing what he had been told about the war being over. Similar to that, the High Guard were mentally unstable after years of fighting a fruitless war and Megatron basically became the symbol of strength that a bunch of unhinged war veterans could rally around to make their cause have some actual meaning. At least that's what I got out it when watching the movie.

[@thomasjohnson1885]

Starscream talks about being disillusioned by the primes and believing strength over others through force the exact opposite of what Optimus wants

[@markpearson5676]

@@thomasjohnson1885 true but that just feels like a cap out to put Megatron as the leader with out any experience. Plus the idea that starscream is in charge of a group that respects the strongest.... I mean I don't doubt starscream is a cunning fighter but to beat soundwave and shockwave..... I doubt it.

[@elita-2]

iacon 5000 was to set up sentinel meeting orion and D so he knows who they are and so its even more personal for D imo

[@PerspectiveEnd]

But it's barely more personal, and they could have done that at some other point. Maybe they see him and run up going "We know where the primes died." And he doesn't really pay attention but like give's them permission to go look for them, themselves.

[@Achieme]

I like how D-16 is screaming how badly and vidvid he wants to kill sentinel and alpha trion sitting there even shifting his eyes towards him yet still gave him a T cog and was like "I SEE POTENTIAL IN YOU" I also agree D-16 turning to Megatron was rushed and sudden especially after he killed orion. I don't think the race was pointless it was for Orion to show D-16 that miner bots are be capable of anything besides them being cogless he even asked D-16 "didnt you feel something that rush of doing the impossible". D-16 was surprised that sentinel and commend them as well as saying he will promote them inspiring the miners to work harder until Darkwing came in like an internet celebrity after hittining 1 million subs screaming Minors The reason Bee and Elita assumed he was gonna kill everyone was because he Lion kinged Orion and said "burn everything down", when elita told him thats enough he said it's over when i say it's over so ya he was pretty much going overboard and if they were to stop him Megatron would've pulled the "if your not with me then your against me"

[@etonymous1632]

You know what? I kinda agree with what you said on how “Megatron shouldn’t have become Megatron by the end”. I think it is a necessary thing that happens, but the movie is way too short and his decision to start destroying everything felt kinda out of nowhere and forced without much explanation. It’s still a great movie but I’m still longing for more, and considering how this movie performed, sadly I’m not too sure if we’ll get more.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Exactly, we needed a bit more foundation before he could truly become megatron.

[@thomasjohnson1885]

@@PerspectiveEndEh, it made sense, a little abrupt but that’s due to runtime but everything makes sense. Why would he want to live in a city that reminds him of a system that failed him since the beginning so yeah burn it all down

[@reserven5795]

They had to speedrun to an Optimus/Megs fight. It would have been more satisfying if Megatron was ideologically possessed instead of blind raging, too. The fight was cool, but i still would have preferred the abilities being established beforehand instead of Prime figuring things out as he went

[@coffeetext]

D-16's path to Megatron might feel rushed, sure, though I do think the way it turned out still works. His worldview of compliance and idolization of Sentinel (second only to Megatronus) gets uprooted and dumpstered because of Orion's antics. The "I got it" bit reflects the shift between him and Pax with their roles being reversed, since D's now the one taking initiative and acting out what Pax may think is a reckless and dangerous plan. While D-16 was much more reluctant than cogged Pax, he still falls into that position relative to D, who then fairly thinks it unfair by the end that Pax keeps getting in the way of his newfound control and living the way he wishes (even if both of their hypocrisies/ironies is lost on them).

[@ignitedmotion5807]

While, yes it does feel like megatron just being chill with orion after constantly being dragged into trouble from him. I can’t say it detracted too much from Ds reasoning to be so aggressive. Not only was his whole reality shattered despite trying to stick to the rules. But Orion is kind of also guilty of this. I mean he goes as far as to trick D-16 into a race he knew he wasn’t comfortable in. Of course he’d start asserting himself more aggressive. Again it is odd that he’s just randomly cool with this stuff before the realization but it didn’t detract from the whole for me. Heck, he was actually really relatable at times. I will again say that the transformation kill NEEDS to be done more. I need that in my life

[@PerspectiveEnd]

The Transformation kill was so SICK. And I would point out Optimus Literally just lead an army to save D16, so it just feels like the whole thing came out of nowhere.

[@costantinemf4207]

Imo despite the problems presented here, i think that if it had just been extended like 20 minutes more the movie would have done a decent job with fixing these issues. That's why i gave it a 9/10 for me.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I mean I'd argue that if it needed an extra 20 minutes to fix some things, then it can't have been a 9 out of 10, but I do agree it's a good movie.

[@costantinemf4207]

@@PerspectiveEnd for me im also quite biased coz i was extremely hyped for this movie and i was fully satisfied with it leaving the theatre 😅

[@vaggos2003]

​@@PerspectiveEndI don't think that "needing 20 minutes more" stops a movie from being a 9/10. I mean, The Godfather, one of "cinema's finest" (supposedly) is a 9/10 because of 20-ish minutes ultimately feeling pointless and a few other small issues.

[@isuckatusernames4297]

I found the scene where Orion got tossed into the pit really funny cause we saw everyone who could fly acting like they couldn't save him.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Lets be real those guys were all down for friend murder.

[@isuckatusernames4297]

@PerspectiveEnd I mean, they probs thought it was done intentionally by their boss, so yeah, probs a bad idea to rescue that guy. still really funny to think about what would happen in an alt universe where a seeker or two decided to save Orion.

[@GriffindorDrago]

Let’s hope they make an extended version!

[@PerspectiveEnd]

That would be great.

[@EmRizzlemrfunnyman]

I love how you edit your logo into every thumbnail

[@Danimatronicspeed]

even thoughI think this movie is a 10/10, I do see your points and criticism. I always saw orion and d16 being demoted as just sentinel lying to them and that he sent darkwing to sent them to waste management

[@JDRider02]

honestly wondering about how much of this movies pacing was done on a meta level, because I think the movie is good in terms of hitting the "key points" of story progression, but they also like could've used more scenes to build stuff up in between BUT I wonder if they made it so short because of much people complained that Bayverse movies were turning into absolutely long time wasters (i remember seeing online sighs of relief over Bumblebee, Rise of the Beasts and One having shorter watchtime than Last Knight)

[@Cartsthebeloved]

YEESSSS THANK YOU FOR THE SHOUTOUT!!!!!! Also i loved TF 1 so much but i feel like an extra 15 min of just D-16s character arc would help this movie alot

[@PerspectiveEnd]

You are more than welcome, and yeah it wouldn't take a lot of time to smooth that out a bit.

[@gleamingcolt]

While I did not watch the full video, mainly because I still have not seen the movie, but I did want to mention the fact that my area is finally showing TF one after….. so long.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I think you will enjoy it, so hurry up and watch it.

[@gleamingcolt]

@@PerspectiveEnd I’m going to try and see it this week.

[@Chase_Productions_was_taken]

Elita: “don’t fire me!” Pax: “it was our fault” Elita: “stfu” *shoves him away* me: “what?” Yeah that part doesn’t make sense Also darkwing grunting “miners” at them is so fucking funny, especially the way this came out

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I almost wonder if Hasbro knew what they were doing with the Miners bit.

[@khoadao3071]

I think the problem with Megatron is that there are not many negative factors that affect him and him specifically more than anyone else. I mean outside of Sentinel there’s nothing else for him to be mad about. It would have made more sense if Sentinel was his biggest idol and not Megatronus therefore the betrayal feels more personal. He keeps emphasizing that he worshipped Megatronus more than anyone else and that image was never broken in anyway the entire movie so Sentinel’s betrayal doesn’t seem like it has much impact to him more than what it does to anyone. Also the fact that he shattered the bond with Orion so suddenly, they made it feel like their brotherhood is you die I die relationship but as soon as he got a cog in his chest he developed this weird grudge against Orion despite him not doing anything but benefiting him, from liberating him from his miserable life to giving him a new power and identity. Also outside of Darkwing there was none of the discriminating higher class that abused him personally making him feel inferior and powerless, thus made his ambition only stop at killing Sentinel, for the rest of them are also victims under his brainwashing. I feel like Orion should be the one who turn into the dark side. His boss’s an angry b*tch who loves to shove fists in his mouth, often be looked down upon by everyone, embarked on a journey hoping to find freedom only to find there was none in the first place and his sworn brother the one he values more than most betrayed him. He has more personal impacts and reasons to be a villain than Megatron.

[@matthewlist221]

Throughout the first half of the movie, it's always Orion who is pushing against the boundaries of society and D16 who is pulling him because he thinks the status quo is good and worthy of being respected. As the movie goes on, he becomes angrier and angrier at society since it turns out it's a lie - but he's also angry at himself for defending the status quo. I think it's that self-anger that helps fuel his change.

[@khoadao3071]

@@matthewlist221 the problem is what he experienced isn’t exclusive to him. Everyone from Orion, Elita and Bee all suffer what he has suffered. Hell I argue Bee had an even more tragic fate than he did. The only one to blame for his injustice is Sentinel and not the society. After he killed Sentinel his goal is done. Whatever he does after makes no sense. He wanted further revolution, but against what ? The higher class who had cogs ? Then it doesn’t make sense cause outside of Darkwing you’ve never seen him be abused by anyone else, most of the “higher bots” don’t treat them unfairly. His ideology only works when Sentinel was still alive, if his next goal is ruling Cybertron, restricting freedom and invading other planets for their energies like every other Megatron, he’s essentially turned himself into Sentinel no.2. If his hatred is towards the society , then none of his actions make sense, they already toppled the system the moment everyone learned Sentinel’s true colors, the plan that he was against. Optimus recovers everyone’s cogs at the end, so there’s no longer any discrimination among Cybertronians, and let I remind you all the cog-less bots are all future Autobots and the all the Decepticons except Megatron were all the “superior bots”. You saw them transform before Optimus even used the matrix to retrieve their cogs. So he wanted equality but took in all his supposed oppressors as his minions to later fight his oppressed brothers that he swore to protect ? Very noble.

[@HamManReviews]

Peeps online seemed so determined to say it was a failure, I really didn't get the point of that. I'm glad I have the time to finally catch up on some of yo content. The one thing I would change is having Megs full turn in the one film

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Yeah for sure, I'd have him turn bad in the second movie my self. And yeah there were weird people dancing on the Grave of this movie being like "Haha Now we have to go back to Bay." Bay fans are the new Geewunners I swear.

[@ShadowPrime69]

But what about that part where you said in the spoiler-free video where you said “I’ve never seen someone use an alt mode like that before” about Orion?

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I should have pointed that out, though I didn't think it was super necessary. I was talking about when Optimus used his Transformation to truck mode, to rip that dude in half.

[@ShadowPrime69]

@@PerspectiveEnd oh yeah that was cool

[@HardHeadtfreviews2008]

Bumblebee had negative growth, because now he wants to be in the government

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Which technically wasn't he already in the government when he was watching Trash burn.

[@mymaskofshame]

My daughter and I think they should have started Elita-1 as Ariel and upon further talks think she should have been close friends with Orion but still someone who is very duty bound to her job which causes a strain on their relationship. Then at the end when Orion becomes Prime he makes her a high military commander and thats when she tells him to call her Elita-1 from no on to remove associations between them to look better for the command structure. Or just something along those lines.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I would have appreciated her name starting as Ariel too. I didn't think it was a thing I could criticize the movie for, but I did think it would have been better for that to be addressed. I don't know why Megatron and Optimus got their earlier names(Well I guess they made up Megatrons there), but Elita didn't

[@mymaskofshame]

@PerspectiveEnd i do agree it should have been drawn out, maybe they should have made part 1 and 2 right off the bat and called this one the same name and the second 2.0 to go with the whole computer thing. Possibly save on costs making lets say a 3.5hr movie then cut it in half to make it 2.

[@MasterPlo]

I FINALLY saw the movie because of Hasbro forgetting that the EU exists. I absolutely loved the movie, I was overjoyed throughout the movie because I realised I was finally seeing my childhood characters get done right on the big screen. I loved Optimus and Megatron's arcs, whilst they were a bit rushed at times, Megatron in particular getting way too much development after finding out about Sentinel and Optimus became a bit too heroic all of a sudden, but I still absolutely love the film. The movie looked so much better than I thought it would, Cybertron was genuinely beautiful, I really like the organic design because it makes the other cybertron designs look like a desolate wasteland destroyed by war as it is described by the bots.

[@astro_9707]

unrelated but I love how you work in your logo into every thumbnail you make! its always really funny to see how you add it into the topics

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Thank you so much, I really try with that. It's a remarkably versatile shape.

[@bradensmith8682]

Darkwing was the secret hero we all needed. The Iacon 5000 was the Canto Bight Casino scene of Transformers.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I would not say it was that bad.

[@bradensmith8682]

@@PerspectiveEnd Hmm, maybe the Sonic 2 Cabin Dance-Off of Transformers. But even that may be too bad. Maybe a better use of this comparison might be the overuse of Badassatrons and "that just happened" moments.

[@Prime-Productions]

Personally Sentinel Prime was my favorite character

[@bradensmith8682]

He was the most convincing. John Hamm killed it. He lied so much that he might have even believed himself.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I thought he was a solid villain. If you noticed I never really criticized him in my reviews.

[@Prime-Productions]

@@PerspectiveEnd yea I did notice that which is why I was curious about what you thought of him really as a villain

[@YesAdventures]

Reminds me of Homelander ngl

[@bradensmith8682]

@@YesAdventures they no doubt lifted some of his personality when planning Sentinel. The Boys is incredibly popular.

[@Rustudio.]

Can i gush about how they use transformation in this movie, well mostly how op do it? It's fine? Okay! My GOD some of the way they use transformation is so fun! Optimus dodging Megatron's punch to His face with how His head transform into his body, Orion transforming while hugging a vehicon/death trackers wathever their name are, causing the vehicon to be ripped in pieces, D16 transforming His leg to kick starscream, why did he transform his leg when he could just do it with his normal leg? I don't know nor i care! I'm geeking out about it!

[@harpybeagle4931]

While I don’t necessarily agree that Megatron turned bad too quick, i feel given how amiable he is with Orion, from a storytelling perspective Id have spent more time with them being more neutral with each other Funnily enough, I think its pretty realistic for a diehard fan to be a crashout extremist in like two days tops lmao

[@PerspectiveEnd]

True, but an extremist so bad the people in their lives who are on their sides, they stop loving, and become willing to kill, over a disagreement over how to dispose of the enemy they both agree that they have. Especially after they just lead an army to save you.

[@harpybeagle4931]

@@PerspectiveEnd bonus points if they have close friends and relatives that leave their extremist circles and get shunned as “traitors” lol Yea p much what I’d expect from extremists irl

[@AirCommandStudios]

Lol, I've seen the movie a second time too. Also yeah, the movie should have been longer.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I'd even be willing to see it a third time.

[@harrisonwhaley7872]

I mean the point of the I got it line was to show he wasn’t calming down like the others were. They were shocked and horrified but they picked up the pieces to get justice unlike him lmao

[@jeremiahsacks2868]

The iacon 5000 was there to promote the roblox promotion with driveworld because thats somehow still going.

[@harrisonwhaley7872]

She wasn’t trying to get someone fired for not closing a door lol. She noticed that someone snuck in the emergency exit bc it was cracked open. She just noticed a stowaway was all lol

[@nfortyeight]

My only problem is the fact that they expect us to believe that Starscream would help Megatron in a losing battle

[@Ironmagnus-86]

Unfortunatly i cant watch this video because Paramount hates the uk so ill have to wait until October 11th Edit I saw it absolute masterpiece

[@MC_73]

Your new post has become your most viewed content ever

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Oh for sure. I am now WAY more famous for Megatron's Elbow than anything that actually matters.

[@MC_73]

@@PerspectiveEndcurrently 1 MILLION views.

[@maxficarra8024]

When Megatron was like "I got it" it meant he wanted to be in charge. Because he was essentially a follower to Orion (always get them into trouble) and Sentinel Prime (he looked up to him only to find out he is a lier and traitor) so he now wants to take control.

[@heavyiron3.016]

How do you feel about Commander Silverbolt and Titan Star Convoy?

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Not a fan of Star Convoy, also how dare they push back Bruticus.

[@RodimusPrimal]

I get the criticisms on the film, but I think it works for the narrative they needed to tell in a single movie. It definitely feels like something a TV series styled build up would have worked better for. In the end, like you, I still really enjoyed the film and want more. I hope Elita and Bee get better character arcs in the sequel.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I mean to an extent it would have been better if they just started the falling out like a third of the way into the movie rather than like 2/3rds. But as obviously the next movie is going to be about Fighting the Quintessons and the movie after that will be about fighting each other, I think there would be time in the second movie to have the character arcs compete there.

[@jamesvoiles364]

I love these being ready almost as soon as I get home !

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Get home from where?

[@jamesvoiles364]

@@PerspectiveEnd I work overnight at a certain beaver themed Texas tourist trap :)

[@wheeljazzSM]

Thanks for the shout out :)

[@nintendoconvert4045]

I don’t mean to deflate the whole video, but the movie needed just one thing: 30 more minutes for D-16 to develop into Megatron. We all understand that the additional length would be a problem for kids, so it gets a pass. Any other constructive criticism would be rather minor for what is the best Transformers movie ever, IMO. And yes, I grew up with G1 and the 86 movie. That movie is now dethroned. 👏

[@Megatronus-productions]

Yay. spoilers! This movie is THE best transformers movie in my opinion though.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

How did you feel about the spoilers review then?

[@Megatronus-productions]

@@PerspectiveEnd amazing

[@Stormfin]

Perspective, I have a question since the movie's fresh in your mind. When Megatron was in the throne room with the Seekers, Sentinel said something about regretting missing him and Pax in his personal quarters. Was that implying they were going to be killed for rocking the boat and Darkwing saved them?

[@Stormfin]

I rewatched the movie today, I had it wrong. A coworker told Orion that Sentinel claimed he and D-16 were dead from the injuries they got in the race. I'm almost certain Sentinel wanted them to Disappear with that invitation.

[@megamanpwn3dmario]

100% agree on your assessment, as your suggestions are pretty good too. only thing i think you might be overlooking is how the miners are rallied because of the iacon 5000. its a minor plot beat, but having the masses rally behind orion and d-16 helps to set up an eventual allegiance split, and them being known public figures aids that. not in this movie, but maybe in a sequel (That i hope happens despite the box office numbers)

[@PerspectiveEnd]

While it's fair to look at it as at least part of the reason why that happened, I mean Pax did show up with proof that they should have been cogged, and it didn't have to be that he got them all on board that way. There are other methods you could have them sign up.

[@Kanguin2]

I just got a chance to see this movie with my partner this evening, and I think I agree with a few points you made. I would have loved MORE of the movie, which itself is not a damning statement, so that we only got an hour and 45 minutes wasn't enough for me, and left parts of it feeling breakneck. And yeah they really just character assassinated Elita-1. Speaking of her, if everyone else was using proto-names, surely she could also have been called Ariel/Erial at first? Then again that would have required actually giving her a character arc for that to make sense, so... yeah. I know there's the whole Disney argument too, but I feel that's a little weak. At least they didn't make her a bike and let her have more than 2 wheels as I was initially fearing. My main gripe with the movie that keeps it from anything higher than a 7-8 out of 10 is that the story focuses heavily on Orion and D-16's friendship... to the detriment of all other character growth. In fact, I think Megatron's character arc was handled phenomenally because of that, I just wish the same care and attention was given to other characters in the film, or that literally anyone outside the main 4 and Sentinal had any personality or connection to Orion at all. However, I personally disagree with your conclusion that D-16/Megatron's character arc was bad because it advanced in snappy stages; I don't disagree that it was very stochastic in progression, but rather that changing like that was unnatural. When someone has a very rigid sense of morality like D-16 did, when faced with information or circumstances that challenge their views, they don't bend and flex with the new information, they break. Having rigid morals is like being made of brittle metal, and every time someone with a rigid worldview comes under insurmountable stress, it won't slowly warp them, they're naturally going to break again and again until who they once were is in pieces, and in my opinion it's very natural that this can happen so fast. Anyway, good review, glad I finally got a chance to listen to it!

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Yeah I don't know why they didn't call her Ariel, that part was strange, also the movie is only truly an hour 30. Yeah like no one was allowed to have an arc save for D16. They are all the same people by the end that they were at the start.

[@philhank]

The whole D16 Starscream fight sucked. I don't mind the fight is so one sided. The fight started weird, but i don't remember the details. D16 should NOT have been screaming when his fusion cannon materialized. I feel it would have been better if Starscream did what he normally does, piss Megatron off. Have D16 get furious at this guy for talking the big talk but being such a coward once the fight doesn't go his way. The fusion cannon should show up with a death glare and a reeled back finishing punch.

[@theStridingRebel]

That's what happened though. D16 was about to punch starscream right in the face but the fusion Cannon came out.

[@MC_73]

I have a theory that the Vehicons in the movie are clones of eachother and were made by Sentinel, using the cogs of the miners.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

That could make sense, though it's never said.

[@ElGuachitoReviews]

Ive currently seen it 3 times and am going a fourth time tomorrow, thats mostly because i wanted to take my friends to watch it but no one is free on the same day. I still really like it everytime and i keep finding new details

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I totally get why, it's not like the 86 movie is perfect, and I still watch it all the time.

[@EnerKaizer]

No, it made sense why Optimus tried to stop D-16 from executing Sentinel in the movie. He even says why. Cybertrons society needs a restart after what Sentinel did, but doing so by starting with publicly and, especially, brutally killing Sentinel is not the way to do it. They would basically turn Cybertrons people into vengeful barbarians who want to punish whoever they deem deserves it, regardless of it that is true or not. Orion got choosen in this movie to become a new Prime because he wasn't just thinking about deposing a dictator, but also about how to rebuild their society the right way so they do not just live by "might makes right" - which is the ideology D-16 adapted from the Honour-guard and helped him to reshape himself into Megatron. Plus, orion never said that Sentinel should just get let go, he was obviously agreeing on the fact that Sentinel would need to face punishment for his betrayel of his own people, but he insisted on the punishment being dictated by logic and not just blind rage.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Hey says it but that doesn't mean it makes sense. Orion up to that point has never been a person who stands on a Particularly moral high ground, so it comes out of no where that he suddenly believes that. It would have made more sense if he was trying to stop him from doing that because he was like "Dude you are clearly loosing it and I'm worried about you. If you go through with this you wont like what it makes you."

[@ethanpena2030]

Bro the dude basically proved you wrong and explain literally everything that actually happen and your still just pulling the bullshit of basically "Well it sucks and I am right" :/

[@YesAdventures]

The scene where megatron kills Sentinel Prime was so fucking fire bro

[@yusss4647]

It could've been like 2-2.5 hours long in my opinion, I enjoyed it a lot though so yeah👍

[@RajeevPrashad]

honestly, there are times that megatron arc seemed forced to me, but the sentinel prime betrayal made sense for him to turn that way. i wished the end fight was more of a cybertron war between autobots and decepticons like the wear for cybertron game- transformers prime era( RID 2015 IS NOT CANNON TO THAT AND I REFUSE TO BELIVE SO), but i still appreciate we got a awesome megatron vs optimus fights that maybe could of lasted longer, but i thought this movie was good edit: at 2:40 this sequence was funny the fact she was soloing all 3 of them and the fact that in b1, she is optimus’s girl friend.

[@ErtleTheTurtle]

10:04 yeah not to mention that starscream at the beginning of that fight hides and cowers away from the attackers, then we don't even see him again until he's at the tower in iacon, like, I feel like there's a massive deleted scene there cause we're missing way to much context

[@PerspectiveEnd]

For sure, that feels like something absolutely went missing there.

[@ghostlybeannie]

The problem I have with the idea that the characters (or at least D-16) were “rushed” is that the movie was marketing (for what little there was) that it would be the story of how Orion Packs and D-16 *became* Optimus Prime and Megatron. Even if they had to cram it into a less than 2 hour movie, Orion and D-16 had to become Optimus and Megatron. If Orion and D-16 were just indifferent to each other by the end of the movie, it would be such an unsatisfactory ending. It would also imply that Sentinel would not get what he deserved by the end which would make me hate this movie. And If I were a random viewer of this movie with little to no knowledge of the Transformers, I’d rather be shocked at the betrayal instead of seeing it coming. And even as a big Transformers fan I was *still* shocked at the betrayal because it was executed that well! All of this to say that even if the character development was flawed and rushed, it had to all happen by the end of the movie since that was its goal. And I’d rather have it be the way it did happen instead of ending with a feeling of unrest.

[@leafPB]

I jokingly said to my cousins when we first watched this movie that d-16's fusion cannon got nerfed after he got megatronuses t cog and looking back at it makes me question if Cybertronians can change how powerful their in built weapons can be

[@PerspectiveEnd]

It really did, it went from One shotting Orion, to not even scratching Optimus.

[@aya-7001]

​@@PerspectiveEndI mean, you can just chalk that up to Optimus getting that much stronger with the matrix. Though I do actually agree with you, I believe the movie's action could have benefited a ton if it has some of the live action "realistic" battle damage. Of course nothing to that extent but some parts getting damaged here and there would be nice.

[@chriscaseyg9362]

Going into the movie, I was worried they'd rush more than they did, honestly. This definitely feels more like a remake than a prequel for not trying to cram the second Quintesson War, the start of the Great War and Death of Sentinel all in one flick. Definitely agree on the unnecessary contrivances for Elita's starting beef.

[@ArmadaFan2003]

I agree with your criticism of Elita One, it’s really shame that these writers thought it was a great idea to make her so combative and physical with her expression of frustration. I do want to add more criticism about the 1/3 of the movie, I find odd how, Orion Pax is the one who breaks into the Iacon Database two times within the beginning of the movie. First time was a mention he said he did so off screen and the second time is what we actually saw in the movie. TFOne should have established why Orion knew where the Archive’s was how he knew about the City streets so effectively. TFOne also forgot to establish why Orion wanted to find the matrix of leadership as well, when they were at the scavenger room with Bee, Orion convinced D16 they should find the Matrix and return the matrix to Seteinal. I agree with you on the racing part of the story, they essentially under cutted the entire event by having Dark Wing being a jerk. They honestly should have had the Race be a precursor event to the fracture of Orion and D16’s friendship. Ironically, the event where Dark Wing drops Orion and D16 into that Sub level with Bee, could have been made better if Sentinel punished Dark Wing for his disobedience, and he attempted to find Orion and D16. Another problem I had with the film, is how they missed a golden opportunity to introduce how Transformers regenerate broken or damaged limbs with Jazz loosing his leg, that scene would have been perfect if they took an opportunity to build up Orion and Elita’s character by having a discussion while Jazz was being repaired. TFOne had so much packed into the 1/3 that damages the opportunity for character exploration and setting up arcs in the later half of the film. Not to mention this film is way too short to tell all this story, should have been 3:30 minutes in total. As for the 2/3 of TFOne, before going onto the journey of reaching the surface, There should have been a mention by Orion or Elita One, that they heard rumors about the surface having chaotic earthquakes and weather. Instead of what we got because the random earthquake comes out of nowhere with no set up or pay off. I also have a problem with the combat prowess of the four main characters, the movie tells us that they are miners. B127 is a scavenger bot, but that doesn’t mean that he should know how to fight, but for some strange reason they become proficient in combat after they get their hands on the TFCog. It’s a strange coincidence when Alpha Trion hasn’t imparted them with knowledge on how to be combat efficient.

[@rihaanbagrial9625]

Megatronus prime looks like a fusion of Tarn and the titan Nemesis

[@lucarionuva9543]

Thank you for Calling out the flaws of the move i feel like ive been gaslit by the Internet that the movie is perfect Now if u can find some one to articulate what was good about it

[@AggroCrow616]

I feel like the only reason Megatron and Optimus had those names by the end is that Hasbro didnt have faith that a movie that didnt have those two names attached could succeed. Same reason every Bay film has Megatron in it, despite most of them having another different primary antagonist. I fully agree that that transition should have happened in a sequel, though i think I personally rate the movie a little higher. I'm likely biased though

[@tiniestgrain9562]

After watching the movie a third time and thinking on what you said about Elita, I’m starting to think that it would have made more sense for Elita to go the evil route after learning of Sentinel’s betrayal. She already had a lot of “Megatron-like” qualities in the beginning (i.e., selfish, disregarding the lives of others, willing to put others down if it means she comes out on top). She’s definitely a product of the society she lives in, as climbing the social ladder doesn’t exactly promote camaraderie and compassion. Like, if anyone would go crazy with anger after learning their whole life was a lie, it would be her (especially with everything she probably sacrificed to get to that point). But I get that the rift between D-16 and Orion was supposed to be, despite their similarities, how differently they reacted to the betrayal. Orion wanted to help others, while D just wanted revenge. I also agree with your take on the action. I remember feeling disappointment multiple times during the movie and not being able to really articulate why, but you made me realize the action scenes were the reason. I would have loved to see more of Airachnid vs. Alpha Trion, Megatron vs. Starscream, Airachnid vs. Elita, and maybe actually see Megatron, Bumblebee, and Starscream get captured by Airachnid and the other soldiers. Anyway, great review!

[@johnofark]

The only review I’ve seen that actually addresses all my flaws. Bravo Mr Perspective

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Thank you very much. There was more I probably should have talked about... But I forgot because I'm stupid.

[@SirRoxy]

I still find d-16 and his motivations to be more compelling than anakin in revenge of the sith, bro really went from having a freindly conversatiom with oniwan to getting chopped up by him in like half an hour

[@SirRoxy]

I just realised there are alot of similarites between these movies like with the choped up bit from above prime litterally does that too, megatrons eyes even bloody change color its rediculous

[@SirRoxy]

I feel like a complete idiot because the second i unpause the video after making that comment he makes a star wars parralell

[@gannontilly2929]

For the animation thing there is also the beging when Orin is crawling in the vents.

[@MC_73]

11:52 sorry if it looks flat/bad. I have no idea how to draw in perspective and it’s a struggle drawing on a phone

[@PerspectiveEnd]

It doesn't look flat and bad at all.

[@speedflashanimations221]

What do ha think of Megatron begin the reason why Starscream has his screechy voice?

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I think it's a little silly. Like he couldn't get that fixed? Also the digital distortion doesn't seem like his thing. That's more of a Soundwave one.

[@speedflashanimations221]

@@PerspectiveEnd depending on weather a sequel dose come out and starscream still has his screechy voice I could see that megatron wants to keep that as a reminder on what could happen if they try to overthrow him Considering how before he got his screechy voice he seemd to be respected by the hight guard but after megatron beat his crap and got his new voice not even sentinel took him seriously and made fun of his new voice, heck I think even starscream notices how his new voice doesn’t make anyone fear him or respect the commander of the high guard I think his distorted voice along side basically begin humiliated and losing command of the high guard/decepticons really just sets up his hatred for megatron and why he constantly try’s to take back control perfectly

[@moosiefate]

I enjoyed the film but agree with your points. The exiling the High Guard was random as well. It never really established them as following D-16, the switched leaders so many times during that film.

[@lightofwisdom17]

Look back to the movie, I feel the death of the Primes feels disappointed. You're telling me 13 demi-gods lose a game of Among Us? Alpha Trion said despite getting caught off guard they still have the upper hand until Sentinel who is not powerful at all came in and they lost? Also do those guys even have power at all? They have Vector Prime, he could just went back and tell everyone in the past that Sentinel is the traitor.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Yeah Sentinel joining really shouldn't have mattered much. And you are telling me Sentinel was the Betrayer and not Liege Maximo?

[@pat1r1ck]

​@@PerspectiveEndreally tells you that liege still had more honor

[@speeddemon5339]

@@pat1r1ckor the writers are morons.

[@speeddemon5339]

@@PerspectiveEnd Sentinel being the betrayer could work, but it doesn’t really make sense in the movie. I mean, he clearly hates getting bossed around by the quintessons, and while he does live a life of “luxury,” he could have lived a life of luxury as sentinel without having to worry about making sure he delivers the proper amount of energon on time. Speaking of the quintessons, why the fuck do they need sentinel alive at all? They are robots, they could literally replace sentinel with a drone that looks and acts exactly like him and practically no one close to sentinel would complain, and if they did, then they could have just replaced those closest to sentinel and never let their drone get close to anyone else except for controlled public appearances. I’m not saying I don’t like the idea of an evil sentinel, I just think it was a bit contrived in this instance, when the supposedly intelligent quintessons are dumber than the average human.

[@themoagoddess1820]

@@speeddemon5339 that life of luxury was a consolation prize, he was going after the matrix of leadership

[@xenith8286]

I think Elita was written a bit too far into the absolute toxicity angle. I like the idea of a character starting out as somewhat of a bad person, leading to a positive character arc in which she gets better, which I think kind of happened since she acknowledged her own toxicity and something she lacks in an interaction with Orion. Maybe if the Jazz Cave scene was recontextualized to something of a "needs if the many outweigh the needs of the few" schtick and displaying it as logical but morally wrong would have aided her character I think Megatron's snap made a bit of sense after learning about Sentinel for a few reasons. For one, out of the four, he easily had the most admiration for him, with Pax being more rebellious, Elita screwed by the government, and Bumblebee probably not giving him much thought. Not only did Megs have tat immense admiration, he also saw his idol kill his other: Megatronus. It's really traumatizing to him and sets him down a path of revenge. No one can convince me that Orion/Optimus saving Sentinel was bad. That is pure Optimus characterization. When he's not the post-2007 movie Prime or increasingly morally dubious at times IDW Optimus Prime, any Optimus should do as nuch as they can to stop needless death. Did Sentinel deserve it? OBVIOUSLY! Is it what cements D-16 into Megatron by showing how far he is willing to go? Yes! Should any version of Optimus try and stop death at any point unless absolutely necessary? Yes! We see this in the hesitation Prime notoriously has for killing Megatron. Optimus sacrificed himself in hopes he could stop D-16 from going down a dark path. He wanted to save his friend from himself. For rhe amount of love he had for his friend and how all he wanted to do waa change the world for the better, I think he deserves the Matrix of Leadership

[@samsthebeztatstuff8885]

I think your overthinking a lot of Stuff but your version still probably improves the film

[@PlaystationFreak719]

When I went into Transformers One I was not expecting Orion Pax and D - 16 to become Megatron and Optimus Prime I thought that by the end of the movie once they got there core everyone would come together to beat and expose sentinel with the super awesome power of team work and do a little dance at the end and then they would tease their future in a post post credit scene I don't know that's just what I thought

[@thedrifter5531]

d-16 turning on orion was because he had just shot his best friend and possibly killed him the rage of betrayal from sentinel and then his best friend trying to stop him only to cause orion to get critically injured caused him to snap it broke d-16 to the point he just felt rage nothing but pure rage, its why he starts aimlessly destroying everything (which would kill people because debris kills people which is why elita and bee tried to stop him) and prime's sacrifice is both prime and megatron wanted to dethrone sentinel but megatron wanted to kill him prime wanted him to stand trail prime wanted the start of their new society to be started with justice megatron wanted it to start with bloodshed, and prime was willing to die for his belief

[@PerspectiveEnd]

See I could agree with that, were it not for the I'm Done Saving You, bit. If maybe Orion died before Megatron let him go, and he wanted to kill sentinel and destroy everything because he actually blamed Sentinel for "What you made me do" then it could have made sense.

[@thedrifter5531]

@@PerspectiveEnd throughout the movie d-16 is usually saving orion especially from darkwing, throughout the movie orion gets d-16 into trouble, thats where the "i'm done saving you" comes from because d-16 always protects orion, this time it was d-16 who hurt orion and it just makes him snap

[@zuurynkhalonun1621]

I'm very curious about what the sequels to this movie will be about (if they happen at all). The promised (in theory) trilogy should lead either to a large-scale energy crisis that forces both factions to leave the planet, or to the Decepticons taking control of the planet, forcing the Autobots to leave, thus connecting the story to the current timeline of the films. However, both options seem unlikely. The film clearly indicates that the Matrix of Leadership is directly linked to the planet's energy resources, and if nothing happens to it, then there shouldn't be a crisis (in theory). Moreover, the war between the Quintessons and Primes hasn't significantly affected (as far as we know) the planet's energy resources, so why would the conflict between Autobots and Decepticons have an impact? It's also quite hard to imagine how the Decepticons could seize power on Cybertron-they certainly have a significant shortage of personnel, and the key conflict will likely be more related to the Quintessons. There is, of course, a scenario similar to Season 3 of Generation 1 - Animated: the Autobots peacefully govern the planet while the Decepticons are banished to deep space. In short, I'm very interested in where the creators will take the story in the sequels (if they do happen).

[@GamingFan64-hc5op]

I understand your point, but you can’t deny that this movie was the one that we needed then those crap that Michael Bay was given us.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I mean I think Bumblebee was also kind of that. But I can't deny that RotB was kind of just half going back to the bad old times

[@mmmmythical]

Agreed, I liked this interpretation of Megatron although I was very unsatisfied with him deciding to let Orion fall into the abyss to become Prime. It felt very jarring. I think this better articulated my feelings of his arc overall and I kind of wish the first half of the film foreshadowed the darkness in D-16 sooner and made his reaction to Sentinel’s true colors a bit more understandable. When I walked out of the theater it definitely felt like a 7/10 to me so it is cathartic to see I’m not the only one in that position

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Indeed, they needed to work a lot harder to smooth that bit out, because for the most part he seems like a chill dude, and then out of no where he became willing to betray his best friend who just lead an army to save his life.

[@LadySeraphii]

Well, you were right. He only had the faceplate on for like two minutes. Everything you said about Elita-1 makes me believe that whenever I finally get to watch the full movie, I am going to really hate all the scenes she's in. Probably because I really do not like her voice actress. Oh, and a big Decepticon looking Transformer actually being a chill dude who's just following protocol seems like a really funny character read. Why do people keep seemingly forgetting that these characters are like 20 foot tall metal aliens? Where is the weight in their movements? Elita-1's punches should have been damaging that rock horrifically, because it looked like a normal rock and not metal. Also, while the energy throwing ax does look a tad bit stupid, it's also never been stated to be solid. Just like a lightsaber, no weight to the blade, just the hilt/arm. Superheated plasma/energon just cutting through things like paper.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

We knew I would be. It's always the way. Why did you watch this if you've not seen the movie yet. She gets better, but she's sooooo Selfish at the start. I mean it's probably because she was punching so weakly. And yes it does look INCREADIBLY stupid. Like a bad Megaman attack.

[@LadySeraphii]

@@PerspectiveEnd To be honest, I don't have the time to go an see it. So, I just scanned over a few clips from the movie that were recommended to me and got the gist of the final scenes. And, I have never been one to be bothered by spoilers. I can spoil the entire plot of a game/show and I would still watch/play it in the same manner as if I was going in blind.

[@Crimson_Crow88]

Now I'm still debating how I personally feel about D-16's arc but the way I read the arc was as "I want to do a really bad thing, my friend doesn't want me to but everyone else is pushing me down this road and my friend is starting to hold me back." The movie is definitely not perfect but I can enjoy it for the spectacle we got (I mean cmon Sentinel says "nuh uh")

[@00GundamreviewsV2]

Of course it's this guy that needs to make a video about " fixing" this movie lmao. Film was 10/10.

[@Diaboragon]

It's about 1 point behind the '07 movie.

[@L1ama.Tr0n]

Honestly i really did enjoy the movie but also agreed with a few points (keyword a few!), i still think this is one of the greater transformers content weve gotten in awhile ^^ i hope this movie is the start of even better content in the future too

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Oh for sure this is way better than a lot of the stuff we get.

[@Jesus-n8e]

What did you think of sentinel prime in the movie