FL5 Honda Civic Type R gets more power! COBB Accessport & OTS 93 Tune Review

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TheTopher

TheTopher

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@tyhyhh
@tyhyhh Ай бұрын
cobb coming into the honda world really makes me consider a honda i know you can get ktuner or hondata but i like cobb was a subaru guy for years
@ericiidx
@ericiidx Ай бұрын
I'm not sure how much has changed over the past decade, but Hondata is (was?) definitely the way to go for Hondas. I was an early adopter of Cobb's venture into Honda tuning with my 07 Si and... I moved over to Hondata pretty quickly! Not to talk poorly of Cobb -- nowadays I'm a Subaru guy with an AccessPort -- it just wasn't a good experience. Of course, this only applies to the OTS tunes, which were much more experimental at the time. The product itself was fine.
@FC3_RIPPER
@FC3_RIPPER Ай бұрын
⁠@@ericiidxCool insight reading this as a younger honda guy getting into it. Thanks.
Ай бұрын
Cobb just lost their lawsuit, I wouldn't touch their products with your can gopher
Ай бұрын
Hondata...man Cobb is garbage.
@djaric
@djaric Ай бұрын
Ktuner is not supporting the FL5. :(
@boots_n_coots
@boots_n_coots Ай бұрын
Yay, CARB compliant. I’m in! Now if I could just get Topher to UPS me a couple of gallons of that 93 stuff I’ll be all set. 😊
@snowboarder72990
@snowboarder72990 Ай бұрын
You can add 1.5 gallons of e85 to a full tank of 91 to run a 93 tune
@boots_n_coots
@boots_n_coots Ай бұрын
@@snowboarder72990Hey thanks I didn’t know that.
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Ай бұрын
I asked Cobb about this, and they don't recommend adding E85 to increase octane. If you only have access to 91, run the 91 tune.
@boots_n_coots
@boots_n_coots Ай бұрын
Noted TY
@ScottSchubel
@ScottSchubel Ай бұрын
Nice to see Cobb support the FL5. Really like its mac compatibility. Had a Cobb OTS 93 tune on my ecoboost mustang for 20k miles and it was a great map.
@Jesse-x4o
@Jesse-x4o Ай бұрын
Dude Cobb are babies in the Honda game. I'd only consider it if it didn't require an ECU unlock. Hondata for the win in that case.
@aexiy
@aexiy Ай бұрын
@@Jesse-x4o cobb has been around wayyy before hondata lol
@Jesse-x4o
@Jesse-x4o Ай бұрын
@@aexiyNot in the Honda community I've had cars tuned for over 20 years. It was subbie and Ford that used Cobb. Never a Honda.
@dwarfkilla91
@dwarfkilla91 Ай бұрын
get a JST tune, they just email it, you load it onto the access port and its the same after that. Brian is the best. great dude
@RyanRoadReaper
@RyanRoadReaper Ай бұрын
The Forscan shout out brought back memories of a younger me angrily scanning for new codes every time a light came on in my old Lincoln LS 😅
@sk1lls397
@sk1lls397 Ай бұрын
Nice! Just got an EQT stage 1 for my 2019 GTI 6mt. First car ive decided to tune after 4 other cars. Very excited.
@noahk9217
@noahk9217 Ай бұрын
You won't regret it...until you burn your clutch out 😂
@znghant
@znghant Ай бұрын
Wtf I swear it’s just Tune Your Honda week. I just flashed Phearable OTS on my FC3 and my buddy just flashed Phearable OTS on his FK8 hahaha I love seeing a bunch of people having fun with these cars all at once. It makes me so happy.
@YTKaedeIchigo
@YTKaedeIchigo Ай бұрын
Welcome to COBB! Been a user for the past 4 years and it's been an amazing product.
@Ivann_Lozanno
@Ivann_Lozanno Ай бұрын
For a 4 cilinder, it's pretty damn good. I love that car and the mods you've been doing to it 👌🏼
@DoSum4Me
@DoSum4Me Ай бұрын
We’ve had a number of Focus ST’s and Focus RS’s traded in at my work that had Cobb tunes, so it’s nice to see them come into the Honda world! The type R is probably one of my favourite cars to rip around.
@aztrose1023
@aztrose1023 Ай бұрын
I've been looking to get a V3 accessport for my 2023 Subaru WRX, people say it drives like a totally different car after an E-tune. I've only heard good things about tuned VBs but I just can't justify dropping nearly a grand on a accessport and an E-tune in college. One day it will happen, it's really cool to see COBB in the Honda space now.
@JoeyJeeeebs
@JoeyJeeeebs Ай бұрын
Just finished my Etune on my 22 vb with Dman. Completely fell back in love with it. Do ittttt
@Dylan-p2u
@Dylan-p2u Ай бұрын
Cobb makes Access Port for Honda! Finally!
@ruthlessracing973
@ruthlessracing973 Ай бұрын
Hondata with phearable stage 2 tune is the way to go 5 modes and in the low power modes you can drive fast and corner in the rain like its dry ground the traction tuning is that good 381hp and 383tq with just a k&n filter no mods
@Notorious1000RR
@Notorious1000RR Ай бұрын
yes thats the best or there stage 3 one if u add e85
@yenny527
@yenny527 Ай бұрын
18:38 acceleration with launch control
@qiwentan5318
@qiwentan5318 Ай бұрын
I don't know if you will ever consider putting on some coilover on this, but there is a Japanese company call RS-R that makes coilover for FL5 and FK8 that are compatible with factory suspension control. Which could be an interesting option.
@TheCaffeinatedGearhead
@TheCaffeinatedGearhead Ай бұрын
This is awesome. Can't wait to see this on track
@TrevorSublett
@TrevorSublett Ай бұрын
Not cobb - but got a similar OTS tune for my MK7.5 GTI earlier this year and it really just woke up the car. Really does make all the difference on enjoyable
@Rspsupraturbo
@Rspsupraturbo Ай бұрын
My dream....someday when i graduate, a current FL5 in boost blue!
@hsiautoclub
@hsiautoclub Ай бұрын
Type R❤
@19hundoc47
@19hundoc47 Ай бұрын
Thanks for putting out this video, I’ve been wondering about this for my R
@AppyLikki
@AppyLikki Ай бұрын
I bought an accessport for my 2018 f150 raptor left everything stock with stage 1 tune and it has the transmission tune also which I highly recommend made it almost have a dual clutch transmission feel very smooth shifting compared to stock. My buddy bought one ages ago in high school for his 06 wrx wagon and we were blown away by the witchcraft magic computer
@Jay-sb2xs
@Jay-sb2xs Ай бұрын
Can’t wait for the carbon intake!😊
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Ай бұрын
Same, that's going to sound awesome
@abdullaharif6455
@abdullaharif6455 Ай бұрын
​@@TheTopherWhoa, you ordered that too? Will be interesting to hear what it sounds like?
@honda_miata
@honda_miata Ай бұрын
Never considered Cobb AP, but it is good to see other avenues!
@GianniStrano
@GianniStrano Ай бұрын
Man I miss my FL5 so much. Just totaled was sitting in traffic doing nothing. Went from a SS 1LE to that and it was one of my favorite cars ever. Hopefully one day I'll get another. Settled for a crv sport hybrid for now
@nicholasrandazzo7279
@nicholasrandazzo7279 Ай бұрын
How do you like the CRV? I have a 22 civic sport and I’m debating between that hybrid sport L CRV or the type R. Also i live in Buffalo. The CRV is the sensible choice. But i want a manual again
@GianniStrano
@GianniStrano Ай бұрын
@ unless you plan on winterizing your type r get a CRV I have the L trim as well it's great. Build quality is unreal and MPG and the overall ride is great.
@batitsogtsaikhan469
@batitsogtsaikhan469 Ай бұрын
How did your civic get totaled sitting in traffic? Somebody rear end you?
@andreshirinian6558
@andreshirinian6558 Ай бұрын
You like the type r more than the 1LE? I keep debating which one I think is a better car (I don’t have seat time in either)
@GianniStrano
@GianniStrano Ай бұрын
@@andreshirinian6558 two completely different cars. I live in the north east and fwd is more feasible than a rwd for daily use. Build quality Honda is hands down miles better. But power and handling you can't compare. And engine 3 times the size and a manga ride suspension. I called it the poor mans GT3 car did it all but it's a shame I never drove it. Put more miles on in 3 months than I did in2 years.
@hgodkx
@hgodkx Ай бұрын
just makes me want a type r even more i got a 11th gen sport hatchback and i wanna already turn it in for a type r
@SATO_FD2R
@SATO_FD2R Ай бұрын
COBB HAS INVADED HONDA. Hondata has to step in quick! All jokes, glad the aftermarket is thriving!
@romeropostali520
@romeropostali520 Ай бұрын
I think Hondata is basically dead. The older guy there is likely at the end of his career. I’d imagine it will either dissolve or be sold. Various flash pro application have been out of stock for years even newer platforms. Not sure if he was hit with EPA action but it’s basically crickets at Hondata unfortunately.
@tony4431
@tony4431 Ай бұрын
@@romeropostali520 Hondata is far from dead, they've been touring the whole US doing jailbreaks and allowing people to buy flashpros on the spot for FL5 and FK8. The Flashpro had a chip storage issue and they swapped to FlashPro Minis. I picked mine up this year in person with the jailbreak tour. They've been actively doing upgrades regularly still with DE5's burple and pop they added to FL5 and just recently updated for the FK8 for those people who want it. A lot of custom tuners still working on the platform. Also the turn out has been crazy at every tour spot. Had around 20-25 FL5/Fk8s for the tour where I am.
@fl5_driver
@fl5_driver Ай бұрын
@@romeropostali520 I've not had the same experience. Just reached out to support had a response in 2 minutes. Very responsive for the FL5 products.
@ChrisIam-007
@ChrisIam-007 Ай бұрын
I have the ‘24 DE5 & would like an accessport if it provided me with an oil temperature estimate like what the CTR has from the factory. Not having a factory oil temperature estimate is the only thing I don’t like about my ITS. Power wise I don’t feel like the car needs any more, and I also don’t like the idea of needing to get my ECU “jail broken” so I can utilize the accesport. On previous cars I’ve owned the accessport was always “plug n play” right out of the box. Cobb is solid company and congratulations on what you have turned your CTR in to. I really enjoy your content and reviews.
@azmainabrar697
@azmainabrar697 Ай бұрын
i would consider the phearable stage 2 tune as well
@pantag2
@pantag2 Ай бұрын
Questions: 1. Does Cobb changes the turbo PSI levels at all? 2. Remind me...don't you have the PRL mid-resonator pipe delete? 3. What brand and viscosity oil do you use?
@SScratchingSScratcherSS
@SScratchingSScratcherSS Ай бұрын
I am hondata for life, my FL5 loves hondata!
@jec0163
@jec0163 Ай бұрын
COBB needs to make an app that projects the log screen with all the dial info on the cars infotainment display thru CarPlay
@thumperjr100
@thumperjr100 Ай бұрын
Agree
@TerryManitoba
@TerryManitoba Ай бұрын
I did an EcuTek tune on my GR Corolla. Everything you said about the Cobb tune was similar to my experience with the ET tune. (more power - lower down & 4k +, & a much more streetable car) From my limited exposure - it almost seem that doing any kind of "reputable" tune should be a slam dunk for this type of car - for more power or to simply optimize your car's drivability.
@oliviacolunga1548
@oliviacolunga1548 Ай бұрын
Hi, I’m kinda new to all this. I have an FL5 with several upgrades and was thinking about tuning with Hondata however, sending out the ECU and being without a vehicle for a few days just makes me a little nervous. You mentioned in this video that you’re testing out the Cobb System and you said that you sent your ECU to Austin Texas for unlocking. Well I live in Austin Texas and I wonder if I could have the address of where you sent the ECU to so that I can go in person and speak to somebody about possibly owning one of these Cobb tuning devices. And thank you so much ahead of time!! 😊 18:01
@punkbutler88
@punkbutler88 Ай бұрын
i now found my next car. Reminds me of my 88 Thunderbird Turbocoupe...just modernized.
@mappyfrappy
@mappyfrappy Ай бұрын
Eh, I bet Hondata has some comments about this. Loved the Accessport in my Subie when I had it, just reserving judgement. I'd like to see an apples to apples comparison as I'm stock currently.
@Jay-sb2xs
@Jay-sb2xs Ай бұрын
Favorite Civic!
@justace123
@justace123 Ай бұрын
Are you worried about voiding your powertrain warranty at all?
@ap0c4lyps37
@ap0c4lyps37 Ай бұрын
I mean dude has a KZbin channel with $780k subscribers. I don't think he worries at all.
@retrograde11
@retrograde11 Ай бұрын
He clearly is not. If engine goes boom it's going to be a business tax write-off.😂
@mgstrip
@mgstrip Ай бұрын
he could prob get a 2025 type r for free
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Ай бұрын
Not too worried about it, tune is pretty conservative and the K20C1 is very solid.
@Nattypiso
@Nattypiso Ай бұрын
⁠@@TheTopher I agree with how solid our K20C1 is. Especially with the recent test of the HRC-K20C (Spec D) at the Suzuka Circuit, which is based on our engine. There is 4 variations that was developed to cater different racing categories. Spec A with 300 horsepower class, all the way up to Spec D targeting 600 horsepower class. Our engines is definitely built to withstand harsher racing conditions.
@PacoRobbins
@PacoRobbins Ай бұрын
It is wild to me that Cobb hasn't updated the AP in over 11 years now. I guess if it ain't broke don't fix it and keep charging $600+ for it.
@lotmeet9382
@lotmeet9382 Ай бұрын
Maybe I can't hear it in the video- but did you figure out a way to turn off that annoying "shift alarm" beeping noise when you get to redline??
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Ай бұрын
Oh ya, it's in the settings menu - surprised so many people leave it on.
@lotmeet9382
@lotmeet9382 Ай бұрын
@TheTopher I have to go find this! I was literally debating selling the car with how annoying it is!
@axledog7297
@axledog7297 Ай бұрын
I disabled it day one. I CANNOT stand it.
@CJax749
@CJax749 Ай бұрын
@@lotmeet9382 You have to be joking😂 not even that loud. How have you not found it it’s literally one of the first things in settings😮
@lotmeet9382
@lotmeet9382 Ай бұрын
@CJax749 I didn't say it was loud - it's annoying. I don't drive the car that often (900 miles in the year since I've purchased it) so I haven't spent a ton of time going thru the menus. This weekend I found it, all is good now!
@jacobkeane-candib1105
@jacobkeane-candib1105 Ай бұрын
Do you have any plans or desire to drive a tuned VB WRX? I feel like the transformation from stock to tuned is similar to your FL5. My ‘23 limited has a PRE racing OTS 92 octane tune, otherwise stock except for ETS intake; it’s great fun. You’re more than welcome to have it for a review but I do live in Seattle. 😊 Love your channel, been following for many years, thanks!!
@dougmaverick3287
@dougmaverick3287 Ай бұрын
My friend if you had the choice which would you prefer, your Honda Civic Type R or a manual Porsche 718 Cayman GTS 4.0?
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Ай бұрын
For sheer thrills I’d go with the Cayman 👍
@DP-jaja
@DP-jaja Ай бұрын
Topher’s name is Chris!!!
@DavidSchleifstein
@DavidSchleifstein Ай бұрын
Enjoying the sound of the car. Trying to recall - have you just removed one of the resonators from the stock exhaust?
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Ай бұрын
I did, the smallest front resonator, matching the Integra Type S
@chrisvigo4880
@chrisvigo4880 Ай бұрын
Thanks ✊🏻
@Jay-sb2xs
@Jay-sb2xs Ай бұрын
Cobb tuner is better than using a laptop! I seen STI owners having one!
@ag6371
@ag6371 Ай бұрын
Do a laptop tune next
@gr6395
@gr6395 Ай бұрын
Let’s go!
@Sonic_1000
@Sonic_1000 Ай бұрын
Downpipe is the biggest bolt on you can do.
@leftright2
@leftright2 Ай бұрын
is the intake for the FL5 like not restrictive. i was surprised how free flowing and high flowing the intake for the GR Supra was i wonder if Honda did the same with this car .
@AA-jk1es
@AA-jk1es Ай бұрын
I am from MI too!
@Notorious1000RR
@Notorious1000RR Ай бұрын
and u never used a accesport before? lol i was suprised when i heard u talk about it i thought ud have used one
@VolvoSaabFanatic245
@VolvoSaabFanatic245 Ай бұрын
LOL. Chris is talking about PCs on a King of the pEedal Dance figure. Lol
@thystaff742
@thystaff742 24 күн бұрын
Would you recommend getting the integra s over the type r?
@Specialbrown99
@Specialbrown99 Ай бұрын
You mentioned stock tune could run anything over 87?? Is 87 safe to run i thought the minimum was 91
@raph485
@raph485 Ай бұрын
For $700 you would think they could make the device a little more premium.
@joby602
@joby602 Ай бұрын
wot
@d00fin
@d00fin Ай бұрын
At least Cobb has a screen
@prm5798
@prm5798 Ай бұрын
Is Cobb going to offer this for the Acura RDX with the K20 turbo?
@rpstz7346
@rpstz7346 Ай бұрын
can any share some info, if you use this port will it void your warranty; im not talking about flashing it back to stock, could one get their vehicle serviced without hearing that you cant because you used such a device?
@RamzaBeo
@RamzaBeo Ай бұрын
I didn’t know cobb works with Honda lol
@NCLme
@NCLme Ай бұрын
Hey, do you think Honda should come out with the next typeR with at least 380hp 400ft 1bs 🤔😊
@adk7962
@adk7962 22 күн бұрын
Very nice. I don’t know much about tuning, but I believe this is the first time COBB are doing Honda’s. And is that a BB Pro? Also very nice. Thanks for taking us on the drive!
@Austin_392
@Austin_392 Ай бұрын
Would the cobb accesport work with bolt ons ? Or do I have to get custom tune somewhere else?
@SstudiousS
@SstudiousS Ай бұрын
Does Cobb have it where you can remove rev hang and give the Type R the Type S burbles like the Hondata?
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Ай бұрын
No burble tune, that would have to be custom.
@SstudiousS
@SstudiousS Ай бұрын
Thx
@808.-
@808.- Ай бұрын
I’m sure you didn’t mention this but, I didn’t hear any fake engine noise. Was that an option you disabled?
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Ай бұрын
Yeah, I unplugged the active sound module in the dash.
@itspronouncedjello
@itspronouncedjello Ай бұрын
For 45k, would you recommend I get a 997.1 or an FL5? I’m in Los Angeles and the car will be a one car do it all wonder: trackdays, daily, GVBC
@jdm_qtr
@jdm_qtr Ай бұрын
Try sppon mirror its wide zone
@enai-lo
@enai-lo Ай бұрын
Hi dude
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Ай бұрын
hey hey!
@goatsplitter
@goatsplitter Ай бұрын
Oof. Cobb'd it. reliability level reduced from Honda to Chrysler in one simple step. Keep in mind that scanning can show ECU reflashes so putting it back to stock doesn't mean the dealer won't know. Not that you care Mr. TheTopher because I'm sure yours is paid bought with cash but to the Lease Kings out there...
@Notorious1000RR
@Notorious1000RR Ай бұрын
cobb would be last place id go for a honda tune .. way better ones out there. the phearable stage 2 map is best for type r .. even the stage 1 93 tune is good .. add some e u can run e30 on sthe stock r.....if u think the cobb tune added excitement do the phearable tune ull be like holy shit
@ryanquinn4934
@ryanquinn4934 Ай бұрын
What times are you running around Grattan/ gingerman?
@Mr1niceguy4u
@Mr1niceguy4u Ай бұрын
Can you just buy Cobb accesport online without sending them your Ecu?
@cars.withdave
@cars.withdave Ай бұрын
I have a 2024 Subaru WRX. Would it be dumb to get a COBB accessport for any type of power? I have nearly 1500 miles on it but i don want to sacrifice reliability for a little more power. Let me know what yall think.
@deej628
@deej628 Ай бұрын
Fa24s are stout motors. Go for it.
@NDEEZMiata
@NDEEZMiata Ай бұрын
If you can’t afford to rebuild/replace the engine don’t do it. Subaru engines are known to kaboom even stock and tuned cars in general are always a risk. Regardless of how “stout” the engine may be…if you’re still under warranty I personally wouldn’t unless you’re okay with the risk and can afford repairs if it goes south
@Laxy90
@Laxy90 Ай бұрын
When is Topher gonna drive a truck?
@adambarrera6641
@adambarrera6641 Ай бұрын
does this void your warranty?
@SierraAlphaLoL
@SierraAlphaLoL Ай бұрын
How do you find fuel economy when it’s tuned vs stock?
@UnhingedMemescomp
@UnhingedMemescomp Ай бұрын
Does anyone know how this compares to ktuner or hondata? Ive seen cobb before but not really familiar with their products
@777nsl
@777nsl Ай бұрын
Have you tried the factory size Falken all season tires ?
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Ай бұрын
Just 265/35r18 sizing
@ikotsus2448
@ikotsus2448 Ай бұрын
Flat foot shifts. The rental car driving staple.
@Indifference2000
@Indifference2000 Ай бұрын
How's torque steer?
@doskiller9693
@doskiller9693 Ай бұрын
Is that 337 hp at the wheel or at the crank ? Thanks in advance ............ ;-)
@ChrisIam-007
@ChrisIam-007 Ай бұрын
It’s at the wheels
@doskiller9693
@doskiller9693 Ай бұрын
@@ChrisIam-007 - thank you sir .............. ;-)
@dwarnke72
@dwarnke72 Ай бұрын
I’ve yet to see a stick shift FWD car with good launch control. All you did was spin and wheel hop. Why do they even offer it?
@nate_23
@nate_23 Ай бұрын
Hopefully the OTS tunes for Honda aren’t nearly as bad as the ones for Wrx.
@AndrewPruteanu
@AndrewPruteanu Ай бұрын
Sucks cobb got fined like crazy from the EPA. They keep getting into everything and trying to ruin it
@Martin-xh1hd
@Martin-xh1hd Ай бұрын
hey topher
@FruitSaladHD
@FruitSaladHD Ай бұрын
does this void the warranty?
@axledog7297
@axledog7297 Ай бұрын
Of course.
@brokeq50boi80
@brokeq50boi80 Ай бұрын
I mean they would have to prove that the tuning you did caused the issue you are having with your car. So it can. But some dealers also don’t care especially if you have your car tuned and are using parts from a aftermarket company that has a partnership with the brand like how AMS and Infiniti/Nissan have a partnership. At least that’s what some peoples experience has been
@saskilla1945
@saskilla1945 Ай бұрын
7:39
@official_commanderhale965
@official_commanderhale965 Ай бұрын
My state just had to be weird and have 92 instead of 93
@ShaiyanHossain
@ShaiyanHossain Ай бұрын
what state?
@r3games1985
@r3games1985 Ай бұрын
Wow for the price you don't even get an auto dimming rearview mirror.
@ShakeemAndCars
@ShakeemAndCars Ай бұрын
They saved that for the Type S
@kpatt2006
@kpatt2006 Ай бұрын
$700+ for around 35 horsepower?
@WilliamLevesqueineX
@WilliamLevesqueineX Ай бұрын
Power NEVER comes cheap, thats as affordable as it gets honestly.
@williamdraken6018
@williamdraken6018 Ай бұрын
Its not just the HP. The drivability of it overall is greatly improved. It seems high at first but its totally worth it once you experience it.
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Ай бұрын
Looks like they have a sale right now for $650
@jstMir
@jstMir Ай бұрын
$700 to unlock your ECU and give you a tuning software. You don't have to use Cobb's built in maps, you can go custom
@CowboyStag
@CowboyStag Ай бұрын
This doesn’t seem like a good idea for longevity
@ravenstylea2
@ravenstylea2 Ай бұрын
It's well known in the VW and Subbie community that COBB OTS tunes are fair to poor at best.
@alexbraun7162
@alexbraun7162 Ай бұрын
I recommend not running ANY cobb tune. They are known to cause all sorts of engine damage. Go with a more reputable tuner specific to honda.
@lucasokeefe7935
@lucasokeefe7935 Ай бұрын
Source
@GiovanniRossi244
@GiovanniRossi244 Ай бұрын
2,102th viewer
@codedwarrior226
@codedwarrior226 Күн бұрын
Do they have a tune for the 2018 si yet?
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