Flat Earthers in damage control over QF14. As usual they botched it.

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[@Wolfie6020]

Posted on behalf of Walter Bislin - I will be covering his blog in a future video. walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=GPS+Flight+Data+and+the+Shape+of+the+Earth I have downloaded the GPS flight data from the flight and imported it into my "GPS Flight Data Visualisation App" on the blog page "GPS Flight Data and the Shape of the Earth". This App allows me to measure and calculate many values directly from the data, like position in lat/long or X,Y,Z ECEF coordinates, altitude, distance, speed and vertical speed between any 2 data points for flat earth and globe and more in metric and aviation units. It also calculates the drop of the nose between 2 selected points. Here are the data from the flight runway to runway directly calculated from the GPS data for globe and flat earth model: Flight time: 17:26 hours Total dip angle measured: 134.9° = 1° / 60 nmi = 1° / 111.2 km Distance flown point to point on the globe model: 8,120 nmi = 15,039 km Sum of great circle distances between points: 8,107 nmi = 15,015 km Distance flown point to point on the flat earth model: 31,387 nmi = 58,128 km (3.87 times too far) Mean ground speed on the globe model: 465.5 kt = 862 km/h Mean ground speed on the flat earth model: 1,799.4 kt = 3,332 km/h = Mach 3.1 at 40,000 ft altitude Maximal ground speed on the globe model: 497 kt = 920 km/h Ground speed at -74.8 lat on the globe model: 460 kt = 852 km/h Ground speed at -74.8 lat on the flat earth model: 2,361 kt = 4,373 km/h = Mach 4.1 (5.13 times too fast)

[@david_akerman]

Well that about wraps it up for the flatties.

[@osci08]

Once again Walter Bislin weaves his his magic, well done Walter.

[@FrenchCrow]

Genius, again! What could be wrong with a 787 flying at Mach 4? 😁

[@NinjaMonkeyPrime]

Walter F'n Bislin! What a guy!

[@Sherwoody]

@QED the Boeing would melt before flying apart.

[@cabletelcontar5440]

The sun doesn't move at 15 degrees per hour. The sun moves at 15 degrees per hour Thanks Bob. The full unit is "degrees per hour thanks Bob". The "thanks Bob" is vital.

[@whereswa11y]

Love it and duly noted

[@mrxmry3264]

Yeah, that's why I fired off a comment as soon as I hit that spot in the video :-)

[@code_monkey_steve]

Is that metric or imperial thanks Bob?

[@dingledave306]

Thanks Bob

[@powerdude_dk]

@Carl Klinkenborg rofl 😂

[@FrenchCrow]

_"Once again the globe does not need to make excuses"_ That's a recurrent point indeed. We don't need magical thought like theirs.

[@FrenchCrow]

@@johnnysmith506 About what?

[@FrenchCrow]

@@johnnysmith506 So you say... Why can I see, most of the time, objects hidden exactly as predicted by the Globe's geometry? Why do lighthouses have a known range? And why even bother building them so high? How stupid, what a waste of work and materials...

[@FrenchCrow]

@@johnnysmith506 You mean flerfspective? I can teach you about perspective and the rest. Nothing magical.

[@FrenchCrow]

@@johnnysmith506 I guess your "perspective" can make your local sun set?

[@therealzilch]

@@FrenchCrow Hey, it's just like we see railroad tracks in the distance. They don't just approach, they cross. Don't they?

[@fhmconsulting4982]

You have actually touched on something I have noticed about all the Zombie cults...they are all so angry and aggressive. That outlook on life tends to form its own feedback loop so maybe they need to switch off the screens and re-focus on things that are more important than shuffling along with their fellow tribe members

[@Wolfie6020]

I have noticed it a lot more recently too. None of them can honestly claim they are happier because of Flat Earth. They are angry, hostile and have no loyalty even among themselves.

[@fhmconsulting4982]

@@Wolfie6020 It has certainly changed someone close to me and they seem to not care about their marriage, business and health, just about proving they are right. The Japanese have a social anxiety problem called 'locked in syndrome' and I can see that with all the different conspiracy flavours. When they have a morbid fight over people who die as some sort of 'proof' you know they are completely "locked-in" to a really sad existence

[@hopmajibhohepeajibho7595]

If Earth is actually flat and there is a world wide conspiracy, than this is much more important than marriage, business or health

[@Tsudico]

@@hopmajibhohepeajibho7595 The problem is that there cannot be a worldwide conspiracy. The more people involved in a conspiracy means the more chance that the conspiracy will be exposed.

[@Sherwoody]

@@Tsudico you would think that in the last couple of thousand years someone would have spilled the beans.

[@John.0z]

Another comprehensive debunk. Always a joy to see your flight analyses Wolfie.

[@Wolfie6020]

Thanks John.

[@mrxmry3264]

@@Wolfie6020 it is obvious that you, unlike flattards, know what you're talking about.

[@robertquerlz8314]

You a fool to believe this shit

[@mrxmry3264]

@@robertquerlz8314 yes, believing in the flat earth bullshit is UTTERLY foolish. in fact, it is so foolish that the word foolish doesn't even scratch the surface.

[@Sherwoody]

@@robertquerlz8314 sounds like you didn’t watch the video or are incapable of understanding clear concise information. The FE explanation of hypersonic commercial aircraft gaining speed from a headwind makes more sense to you.

[@drosophilamelanogaster4262]

Fantastic video Wolfie! Being a dad to two daughters this made me smile. “A father holds his daughter’s hand for a short while, but he holds her heart forever.”

[@FrenchCrow]

100% agree (dad of 2 daughters too here)

[@AkatarawaJapan]

@@FrenchCrow 200% agree (dad of one daughter who is in Australia and loving it)

[@drosophilamelanogaster3957]

You thief!

[@therealzilch]

One daughter and one son here. Agreed.

[@DeltaH-9]

I used the QANTAS flight as globe proof, and flerfs are trying to tell me that jet steams are responsible for the flight hahahaha. Absolutely ridiculous.

[@ReValveiT_01]

Because that's what their papa flerfs have told them, and they blindly believe whatever their papa flerfs tell them to believe.

[@grahvis]

They tend to forget the aircraft have return flights which while they might take longer, it isn't enough to show the FE argument.

[@Kestrel626]

I made a prediction to a flerf before the flight took off that it would be going faster than the sun as it flew over Antarctica, I was called an idiot. I didn't put any effort into my prediction I just noticed it was going further south than Greater Sapiens flight.

[@david_akerman]

@@grahvis They have personal jet streams, didn't you know that?

[@ToxicTeemoOCE]

NASA control the jet streams, can speed them up, can even turn them around.

[@Alysm-Aviation]

Wolfie, I know that you are bored of flatties, but please keep making videos, especially about aviation and astronomy.

[@Wolfie6020]

Thanks I plan to.

[@Sherwoody]

The only good thing about flatties is that I learn more.

[@Alysm-Aviation]

@@Sherwoody I mean, I should thank flatties for me now being a pilot. Without them, I would probably never have come across wolfie.

[@michaeldunlavey6015]

@@Sherwoody I have to agree. It's boring when there's nothing to debunk.

[@rysacroft]

I was born in London. I've been to the Greenwich Observatory and stood astride the Greenwich meridian. I know that its just a foolish exercise but to stand in both hemispheres is a great experience. Something that flerfs cannot ever experience.

[@ReValveiT_01]

Just how much more convoluted can someone get before realising that the simplest answer is the correct answer? It all works perfectly on the globe with zero need for mental gymnastics. Done.

[@Wolfie6020]

Exactly. No magical planes necessary.

[@stanislavblinov8454]

Well, you do need some mental gymnastics. Like e.g. realizing your clock ain't right. Or your shoelaces are undone. But that's... neither here nor there. Hopefully.

[@Spyd77]

The problem is that this kind of people need to feel special by having a "truth" that it's being hid from the "sheep". I guess that's why Wolfie tried to make him feel happiness with sane things like family, because they get way too attached to their "being special" feeling, and refuse to acknowledge that their truth is just a bunch of lies.

[@powerdude_dk]

@@Spyd77 Yeah, and being special also talks a bit to the ego because they truly think they're onto something huge and they're the woke ones. It also reminds me of how utterly hollowed their education system is and the general trust in the government. Nice job USA.... But that still doesn't explain this stupidity.

[@paidnasashill2150]

It's fun to see how they try to explain this flight!

[@Sidestreetdog]

They will just denied it, like they always do

[@dogwalker666]

Banjo guy claims the jetstream allows the aircraft to fly at Mach3.

[@Sherwoody]

@@dogwalker666 maybe he thinks it’s like a schooner that you can gain speed by pointing into the wind…..crap! I can’t even buy that and I just made it up.

[@Landoparada360]

Keep in mind that if you are fully experimentally vaccinated then you can be on that airPlane confirming what beautiful flat EARTHERS already know, that during the whole trip the pilot has to compensate to the right constantly as it's flying around our beautiful NON ROTATING FLAT EARTH. ( The magnetic center mass of the whole universe) Stop believing the globe lies we have flatten the curve , embrace your natural immunity and take the double covidiot diaper off your beautiful face 😷

[@Starhawke_Gaming]

@@Landoparada360 - way to ignore absolutely everything being discussed, as well as the entire topic of the video, and just spew your crappy flearf copy/pasta that has ZERO EVIDENCE to back up your claims. The flat earth cult is DYING. Find something new to do with your life before your obsession destroys you.

[@adventureswithdogs2251]

Being hearing-impaired, I have to wait for the captions to come up. But in the meantime, I note that you have a shot of timeanddate. I've seen videos from FEers using that site to try to prove their claims. Hilarious! It's one of the best tools available for showing FE to be impossible!

[@Wolfie6020]

Unfortunately the captions take a while. Flat Earthers often rely on globe based tool. It is hilarious.

[@grahvis]

Flerfers use the AE map in their aircraft route arguments. Google Earth to get distances for other purposes, or claim there is no flat earth map when their arguments are debunked by actual distances.

[@Mandelbrot_Set]

Yes, the world daylight map is my favorite. The flat earthers cannot explain how it shows the southern end of the Earth in daylight for 24 hours a day.

[@richardcarnes2834]

I remember a Globebusters video that tried to use timeanddate to disprove the globe. But they misinterpreted the boundary on the world daylight map between astronomical twilight and complete darkness to be the terminator between day and civil twilight. Completely clueless.

[@josleys]

@@Wolfie6020 I have been told by flat earthers that timeanddate is not accurate that far south!

[@DAllan-lz3lg]

I chuckle every time I hear “thanks Bob”. Usually it’s Scimandan but you caught me just as I was slurping a cup of tea 😂

[@kmc7355]

I still dont understand how any of those guys can appear in public after that documentary. I guess having no sense of shame or dignity must help.

[@Sherwoody]

@@kmc7355 the interviews with Ranty are a bit telling. FE’s in general won’t watch debunk videos, they’ll pop in and leave a couple of comments and won’t address the content of the video. Thanks Bob tried to explain the 15° problem as heavenly energies and encased the gyro in bismuth. I never heard what happened after that other than the gyro was broken.

[@kmc7355]

@@Sherwoody The gyro part was particularly funny to me. I work as an ROV pilot/tech and we use top of the range fibre-optic CDL units for navigation (more accurate than Bobs). We run them in a stainless steel sealed pressure vessel to ensure they can dive to 4000m depth if needed without imploding. I have never had one fail on me or be affected by 'heavenly energies' 😂

[@MeppyMan]

Same.

[@therealzilch]

@@kmc7355 Are you sure that NASA didn't compromise them? :)

[@clemstevenson]

Pretending that observable facts are false, simply because you don't like them, is an utterly pointless exercise.

[@judybassett9390]

Thanks for this video Wolfie and for not making us listen to Banjo's voice. Love seeing you with your family.

[@Wolfie6020]

Thanks Judy. All the best to you.

[@TriggeredLimey]

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why there are no flat earth pilots! At least, not proper pilots anyway! Great video, Wolfie! Also, your daughter's "becoming aggressive" face is one of the cutest things ever! 🤣

[@glenecollins]

Long distance or intercontinental “proper” is a bit rough on the pilots of light aircraft which do require their own skills.

[@ominous-omnipresent-they]

What about Bob Knodel, hmm? Oh, wait. Never mind.

[@TriggeredLimey]

@@ominous-omnipresent-they 🤣🤣🤣

[@TriggeredLimey]

@@glenecollins Fair point. 😁

[@frankdebrouwer-leiden]

The way you smash the FE-arguments to bits looks so easy. In reality it requires some knowledge about how the world works, and more importantly: the ability to find the information you need. You are doing a great job. The only thing flerfers can do to counter it is just denial and personal insults. They're a sorry lot.

[@Wolfie6020]

Thanks Frank. When I watched Banjo's videos I was quite disappointed and my first though was "Is that all you've got?"

[@frankdebrouwer-leiden]

@@Wolfie6020 well, those are generally my thoughts too, when watching any flerfers' video. This whole movement is dying, if not dead already. Nathan Hoaxley scores an average of 500 views, and my sorry fellow countryman Arwijn scores 300 views at best. Anthony the Liar Riley has stopped making videos altogether and aimes at children now at TicToc. So it will be not long now when you can devote all of your spare time to your lovely family. Greetings from the other side of the world, that is the Netherlands.

[@mrxmry3264]

@@Wolfie6020 pathetic, aren't they?

[@barryon8706]

"That is not entirely true." That is as most polite a way to call someone out on their bovine excrement as I've heard in a while.

[@misterocain]

I pointed out to Banjo about his jet stream going against the direction of flight. My comment never made it. Says it all about Flerfs.

[@Wolfie6020]

The truth fears no scrutiny but Flerfs are terrified of it.

[@dogwalker666]

I think my comments were shadow blocked to, I asked him how a the aircraft didn't melt when travelling at Mach 3.

[@david_akerman]

@@dogwalker666 I'm waiting for them to state that each aircraft has its own personal jet stream, thus explaining why they can fly the reverse route in a similar time.

[@mrxmry3264]

@@Wolfie6020 the question is, why are flerfs so afraid of the truth? What is so terrifying about the spherical earth that they feel compelled to reject and deny the truth at any cost? so far no-one has been able to answer that.

[@mrxmry3264]

@@dogwalker666 at mach 3 you have to deal with some SERIOUS heat. I dunno if it is hot enough to melt aluminium, but it sure is hot enough to seriously weaken the aluminium parts to the point of disintegration. The SR71 dealt with that heat in 2 ways: - the surface was black (hence the name blackbird) to radiate heat away - the structure was made from a metal (titanium? Some titanium alloy?) that was heat-resistant enough to deal with the mechanical stress even at those temperatures.

[@The_Elmigs]

It's amazing that emma already knows more about our solar system than your average flerf. Can't wait for her first solo FE debunk video 😁👍

[@marvinmartinsYT]

It’s been nothing but damage control since tourists entered space.

[@Sherwoody]

When my grandfather was a boy, there were no airplanes. He was a young man when they appeared and flying was a novelty. A weeks pay would get you a short flight at the county fair. We are at that stage now with space tourism. It will become more common and not just a novelty.

[@marvinmartinsYT]

@@Sherwoody If I had a fair bit more time to be on this planet, I’d try to go. But getting on in age. Hopefully my grandkids might be able to.

[@Sherwoody]

@@marvinmartinsYT I told my wife that if we ever win the lottery, it’s on my lotto bucket list. I figure that if Shatner can do it, so can I. I would however not wear a red shirt, no sense tempting fate. 😉 Edit: I’m not that young either and Shatner has 20 years on me.

[@marvinmartinsYT]

@@Sherwoody Ah. Didn’t think of that. But I did wonder if I could get my ashes thrown out of a craft while up there. Which might actually be possible.

[@hadz8671]

As ever, half the fun of a Wolfie video is seeing his charming wife and daughter.

[@jakeloranger1419]

Once again, a great video clearly explaining real world phenomena. Good looking family, as well, mate. So true about putting our energies towards what gives us the most satisfaction or happiness instead of what brings us worry or grief. Cheers.

[@saviogonsalvez202]

Hi Wolfie, love your vid content. I was especially glad you addressed the psych sitting behind the agro. If I might suggest a slight variation on definitions, I perceive “happiness” and the pursuit of it, as fleeting and very subjective state (affected by so many factors), based on feelings ‘at that moment’. So two people might be on a flight, and one is happy, while the other terrified. “Joy” is a much more deeply grounded feeling which seems to be more associated with relationships and state of mind. Hence I can experience great joy, even in the darkest of circumstances. I believe that when we focus on the things that bring us joy, happiness occurs far more frequently, and, the darker situations still occur, but are less likely to drag us down. I wish you and yours a wonderful life, filled with much love and joy and peace. Please do keep up the excellent content!

[@KeithMilner]

3:30 "I realize that many Flat Earthers disagree with him, and I respect that". Personally, I don't respect it at all. At least Banjo is willing to put his faith in a map. At least he has the courage of his convictions, even if he is blind to its considerable flaws. Most of the time the flerfs that disagree with the AE map aren't doing so because they have an alternative proposition. They are doing so because they know that, not only does the AE map have major flaws, but so do ALL other flat earth maps. Their lack of willingness to propose a map is because they know that, the moment they propose one, they will have to explain all of the problems with it, and then be exposed as either a liar or a fool. It's basically an arguing tactic, to avoid having to stand behind their claims by making those claims hard to pin down. In my experience, and in my opinion, anyone who refuses to propose a map doesn't really believe the earth is flat.

[@bobblum5973]

I took Wolfie's comment to mean that he respected Banjo for trying to use a map, _in spite of the fact_ that many Flat Earthers disagree with him, which would mean Wolfie agrees with you.

Oh, how cute! I used to do that with my daughter too! She is 13 now and knows the planets very well. " Do you have anything to say to your daddy? No!" Oh yes! Lovely family! All the best wishes. :)

[@Naptosis]

I find teenagers can see right through this flat earth nonsense. They are unburdened by our adult sensitivity towards not hurting others feelings.

[@thudthud5423]

In order to make the Earth flat, you have to invent a lot of physics (and ignore a lot of physics), ignore a lot of observations or wave them off as "illusions", ignore math, ignore scale, ignore navigational data, etc., make a multitude of excuses and lie a lot. I can only imagine the stress that involves.

[@lightfoot9485]

100 Thumbs up Sir!Thanks for all you show us and enjoy your beautiful family.

[@hillside21]

Knowledge _and_ compassion are all too rare on KZbin. Thanks!

[@KentheDeer]

Wolfie, I love how you always succinctly and plainly explain the evidence you present. Fantastic lunch done, as always!👌🏻

[@Wolfie6020]

Thanks Ken.

[@sissyfus6181]

Over at ResearchFlatMoon, Bob is starting a series examining the psychology behind flatism. Interesting that you allude to it in this video. The flerfers seem like an unhappy unsuccessful bunch who have grabbed onto something to fill a hole in their existence. As you point out, it doesn't seem to be working for them. Looking forward to Bob's series and as always, look forward to anything you produce.

[@MrOttopants]

Flat earth is the lowest possible conspiracy theory group. I mean, maybe, the lizard people conspiracy people could compete, but that's an argument for another day. If you go down a list of conspiracies, they tend to believe in nearly ever other conspiracy out there. They aren't even low hanging fruit. They're rotten apples on the ground for a week at least. They are so easily convinced of absurdities that even the dumbest grifters on the planet can make them believe things.

[@alaingadbois2276]

MrOttopants The lowest I think is Tartaria, mud floods in the 19th century. Seems to deny everything relating to history and the knowledge of man!

[@Tsudico]

Once a person starts rejecting scientific evidence to support one conspiracy theory it is much easier to reject all scientific evidence and accept more conspiracies.

[@tonywilliams1493]

Flat Earrh is the coping mechanism that poorly educated narcissists cling to like a comfort blanket. Psychologically, it's not the globe they're really denying, it's their own imitations.

[@Kestrel626]

So far the objections I have heard are... The flight has a 100% rating for being on time & that's impossible. Can't find the return flight or even the original flight on Flight Radar so it must be fake. You can't fly that close to Antarctica it's not allowed. It must be fake because Wolfie knew about it in advance.

[@whereswa11y]

This was the return flight . It left Brisbane 2 days earlier.

[@fabimre]

Thanks Wolfie, you demonstrated again what Ranty has admitted recently: "You've got to lie to Flerf". Banjo is no exception!

[@Naptosis]

Thank you for making this video. I didn't know about this situation and flight (I live in the UK). This vid was really educational (especially the visualisation of the continents).

[@bigJovialJon]

One thing, if your daughter is learning DWARF planets, there are a lot more than Pluto.

[@robertquerlz8314]

Dwarf planets are for Dwarfs which is a reference to dork.

[@samholden5758]

But they aren't named after cartoon dogs.

[@0LoneTech]

@@samholden5758 Neither is Pluto. Like Mercury, Venus, Mars, Saturn, Jupiter and Neptune, it's a roman (and greek) deity. Uranus is taken from the Greek name. The Disney company has insane influence over media of the last few decades, but none over astronomy from hundreds of years ago.

[@tonywilliams1493]

One down vote already? Does Gary Wybenga ever sleep?

[@StringerNews1]

Methamphetamine is a hell of a drug.

[@MissionControl-dk]

19 minutes of pleasure. Thanks, wingman. ❤️

[@Wolfie6020]

Thanks, I enjoyed making this one today.

[@mikep9604]

@@Wolfie6020 At this point, Banjo and his followers are beyond help. And Banjo has uploaded a new video again...

[@Wolfie6020]

@@mikep9604 This is how we know they are deliberate frauds. I have explained Cabotage laws to both of them in the past. Qantas, Air New Zealand, South African Airlines and Lan Chile all flew the non stop southern routes. The airlines from the Northen Hemisphere have to pass through a hub or one that has granted cabotage rights. Not rocket science but Flatties pretend not to know about this.

[@mikep9604]

@@Wolfie6020 Yes, and now also DITRH is trying to convince Banjo's followers with the same false information. And of course, Banjo's followers are easy targets.

[@robertquerlz8314]

Pleasure of brainwashing

[@mister8765]

‘Thanks Bob’ never fails to cause me to chuckle!

[@pedrobluis]

Emma will be disappointed when, at school, they tell her that we no longer consider Pluto as planet. Nice family and very nice debunking videos, as always. Tks

[@bobblum5973]

Hey, at least Pluto got to be the first dwarf planet designated as such. So it's still a type of planet, just more specifically categorized.

[@Sherwoody]

@@bobblum5973 by then she will have submitted a peer reviewed paper proving Pluto was knocked out of its original orbit and will be reinstated as a planet.

[@rysacroft]

Thanks Bob will never get tired! He's' done a service to the world,

[@gregorygagnon82]

Bob must be extremely rich by now. Thanks Bob.

[@garthhayter9217]

Calm, positive and humble a great way to be and to show others the way through the logical examination of the observed data. Thanks

[@Mandelbrot_Set]

Banjo is handicapped by the fact that we know the route that QF14 flew. He cannot just invent his own straw man flight paths to argue against as he did with every single flight in his silly little book.

[@therealzilch]

Flat Earthers damage control was over, if looked at critically, by about 240 BC. Everything after that was fluff.

[@dwarfagp]

Its amazing, they spend SO MUCH time trying to find anti-solutions to events, and completely miss the facts !!

[@EeekiE]

Hit the nail on the head with the ending. These people are sad and angry, and the cult they’ve found has become their identity and an outlet. And if they’re without any decency; an income. That’s why they never really test any claims, and why nothing really shakes them, and why they don’t have the balls or honesty to really challenge anything. It’s not even really about simple arithmetic or geometry, or observations and measurement. The entire thing is about these people being angry, paranoid and negative and finding a conspiratorial community outlet to feed into all of that. It’s why there’s so much overlap between flat-earthism and other nonsense. The difference between people making the videos on either side could not be more clear. Only one side is ranting and angry and thinking bad of everyone and everything. Only one side actually has any humour and lightheartedness to it. It’s a stupid depressing cult, and the ending to this video hits that home hard.

[@grahvis]

I wouldn't feel sorry for Banjo, he has been shown where he goes wrong probably for at least the passed two years, he just removes the comments and ignores what he has been told. Given how much he has invested with his book etc, flat earth and his particular arguments seem to be a large part of his life. He is no less dishonest than any other flat earther.

[@robertquerlz8314]

Like yourself

[@grahvis]

@@robertquerlz8314 . That's all you've got is it?

[@mojomusica]

@@robertquerlz8314 Are you naturally this stupid, or do you have to put a bit of effort into it? I am always impressed when someone can't type their name properly, you can be sure they are an intellectual giant. (NOT!)

[@OAlem]

Poor guy. His day job is an English teacher and he can't do that right either.

[@jamescollins8397]

If I didn't enjoy my life & family as much as you seem to, I'd be bloody jealous. I also enjoy your calm, measured approach to the 'flat Earth' nonsense & those that have fallen victim to it. Cheers from Tassie.

[@osci08]

Can't wait to see them attempt to wrap their heads around QF6079, Brisbane to St Lucia in the Carribean direct and non-stop. At just over 10,000 miles, this was another massive flight across the pacific which flew the Australian cricket team for their West Indies tour. Another easy win for the globe.

[@gowdsake7103]

Denial is their staple backup

[@osci08]

@@gowdsake7103 They have no idea do they they.

[@gowdsake7103]

@@osci08 They know reality doesnt fit so they get more and more desperate to deny reality

[@osci08]

@@gowdsake7103 Agreed GS, Someone posted this "It all works perfectly on the globe with zero need for mental gymnastic" It so true and sums your points exactly as well.

[@HOOOLD_ON]

Someone should challenge Nathan Oakley to show a 'happy family' video. He will probably blow a fuse just by being challenged to do so.

[@kmc7355]

He will shout 'ahh the happy family fallacy' through gritted teeth. 😂

[@psychedelicprawncrumpets9479]

Nathan Oakley.. Where globeheads go to die 😋

[@gerardbryant4840]

Yay! Pluto is still a planet! Emma says so. Yet another methodical dissection of all the flerfs ignorance.

[@0LoneTech]

At least no less than the sun and moon...

[@WilliaMXXNavilluS]

Great advice for your flat friend. I miss when my kids were young. Your daughter is adorable. Thanks for all the work you do keeping the flat earth insanity in check. We need more pilots doing this

[@WilliaMXXNavilluS]

Omg the way she winks at the end.. so damn cute bro

[@Wolfie6020]

@@WilliaMXXNavilluS Thanks William. Yes that wink was a real surprise.

[@WilliaMXXNavilluS]

@@Wolfie6020 your heart must melt. That made me think back to when my daughter was her age. Time flies. And so do you lol

[@kmc7355]

I went to look at the guys original video, the comments his followers have written are very sad indeed. To them, he is a 'hero' and anyone on the side of reality is a devil worshipper 😂

[@dogwalker666]

Agreed.

[@mrxmry3264]

Devil worshipper, huh? I'd say that is projection, plain and simple.

[@kmc7355]

@@mrxmry3264 Its a typical response from religi-flerfs who have misunderstood their bible. Quite a common thing.

[@IvanSensei88]

What are they damage controlling exactly? What "Damage"? Their ship has sailed long ago.. not only sailed, but got nuked 50 times, and each piece that may have survived has been pounded into dust by 9000 minigun rounds. There's no damage LEFT to control anymore.

[@BGTats144]

LMAO thanks Bob will never get old..

[@ThomasDanielsen1000]

Wait: didn't flat earthers tell us for years now that there were no southern hemisphere flights?

[@TheWombat2012]

Yes they did. I think it was in “Behind The Curve”. Wherever I first saw them claim that, I watched it and was honestly confused and had to rewind and check when they said there were “no direct flights from Southern Hemisphere destinations to north”. A short while before I saw that video, we had returned to Australia from a US holiday, and going and coming, we flew a direct flight from Sydney to San Francisco and back again. 😂

[@richardhill2643]

SAA have been doing flights JoBerg to Perth and return for years, taking a great circle route over the south Indian Ocean almost to the Antarctic circle. The regular flights ( pre Covid) Melbourne-Santiago and return almost cut across parts of Antarctica, which is directly opposite to the flat-earthers “model”, which would have the same flight traversing the North Pole or following an impossibly long route arcing through the South Pacific… but then invent supersonic jetstreams that allow a B747 to travel 40,000 miles in 13 hours, jetstreams that mysteriously “reverse” to allow a return flight in the same time,but then deny that there are any E-W flights in the Southern Hemisphlat…Of course NASA is hiding the “Truth”, but don’t mention the other 30+ space agencies of different countries around the earth, because they are all working for NASA as part of the cover-up!😂🤣😂🤣😅😅

[@finesse49]

Using facts and logic against flerfies is a bit unfair, don't you think?😄 Emma is adorable.

[@Soundbrigade]

It’s definitely unfair as their delusions would weigh much heavier than facts .....🙄

[@FakieStreams]

I love when someone says "psyop" makes it really easy to just go "lol fuck off mate". Conspiracists are just out here having a whale of a time saying anything that crosses their mind.

[@Wolfie6020]

I know what you mean. When he started going down that road I knew he had nothing else.

[@MisterItchy]

I simply cannot comprehend all the special pleading and ad hoc explanation needed to explain why they think the earth is flat. A simple set of a few globes whirling around each other explains every single thing that we observe.

[@grahvis]

There is a supposed 'science' book aimed at Christian home schoolers which claims the purpose of the Moon is to go dim and turn red to warn us of the end times. When nonsense like that exists, it is hardly surprising we have flat earthers.

[@darnhard]

this FE stupidity is coming to a close , they are self imploding into a flat mess of anger and name calling

[@treadingtheboards2875]

Another great video and easily understood with those of an modicum of intelligence. Greater Sapien's video was the first thing I thought of when the flatties were trying to debunk the flight.

[@MightyMattTM]

Amazing. Truly astounding to me how something so obviously concrete in evidence and science can still be brushed aside so confidently.. I've been deep in the flat earth rabbit hole for some time and I always hold out hope that they're finally going to get it one day. When the evidence for the globe is so overwhelming that they have no more arguments. I guess even this isn't enough, as solid as it is.

[@ThoughtandMemory]

Oh dear. The poor things will have to edit their cranial cavities. With a 25mm spade bit. To remove this truth. Excellent!

[@More-Space-In-Ear]

Beautiful families, there shouldn’t be any excuse not to be happy 🥰

[@arctic_haze]

If we tried to explain those things to children we would achieve probably only a partial success (though Emma just showed that children can learn fast!). In the case of the flatties, pedagogic failure is a certain.

[@WoodworkerDon]

Emma is getting bigger and so much more talkative than when we first saw her. Good on ya mate, and your lovely family.

[@Wolfie6020]

Thanks Don, she will talk all night if you let her. She likes staying up with Daddy.

[@WoodworkerDon]

@@Wolfie6020 I have 1 boy and 1 girl. My son was the talkative one. They are 29 and 31 now.

[@Wolfie6020]

@@WoodworkerDon I can't even imagine her as a teenager now. She wants to stay small and we wish she could.

[@WoodworkerDon]

@@Wolfie6020 enjoy every minute of it. Won't be long before "Daddy, may I please borrow the car." Or who knows with Emma, maybe she'll be asking to borrow the plane. 😅

[@kskdtr]

5:28 - "he (banjo) is not being enterly honest".... a flat earther... not enterly honest.... why am I not shocked?

[@dnomyarnostaw]

Pressure gradients, West to East Jet Streams, impractical flight times for fuel carried ??? Facts, Facts, Facts - is that ALL you've got Wolfie ??? :-) :-)

[@Cornwall1888]

Banjo made a video claiming Australia is actually 8000km wide, passenger planes cross it in around 4 hours, who knew they can reach speeds of 2000kph? 🤷‍♂️😂😂

[@Wolfie6020]

He has no idea and does not listen to logic and evidence.

[@osci08]

Andrew Wade must have told banjo lol

[@DelBoy1967]

If its the video I recall that distance is possible. A youtuber called Seen Through Glass "Our 5000 mile journey across Australia" His aim was to travel across 36 countries in 12 months, trying to discover what car culture was like around the world What Banjo failed to mention is this trip started in Brisbane with driving around Brisbane and a 150km round trip to Australia Zoo before they even departed south. Following the coast down to Sydney with sight seeing diversions along the way. Through Melbourne following the coast to Adelaide then across the Eyre Hwy. The video didn't show which direction he went from Norseman as it cut to Perth. as this guy likes driving I would assume he went south to Esperance and followed the coast through Albany/Augusta up to Perth. You add that distance with sight seeing and car event meetups 8000km would be no problem. What's funny is the KZbinr also has a video "LA to Miami 12 miles" I guess Eddy didn't want to use that as it wouldn't look right on the AE map.

[@davidgarfoot3436]

i asked him why he deleted it i never got a reply

[@markdoldon8852]

If Australia is 8000 km wide (flerflogical given its 'southern' location, just as Antartica is a ring completely around the world), how freaking long is NZ? To fit a similar map it must be stretched out to 1000s of km as well. And yet you can drive it...odd, that.

[@DelBoy1967]

Great video mate and just before bedtime. I did notice the day night overlay didn't match the Darwin landing at sunset but never bothered to find out, I know now. Emma's growing up fast, enjoy the times. Cheers 👍

[@whereswa11y]

Been waiting for this one.

[@Wolfie6020]

I was waiting on Banjo to finish his series.

[@Darryl.M]

Hello Wally

[@marvinmartinsYT]

They still won’t get it though.

[@whereswa11y]

@@Darryl.M new one out now

[@shaneeslick]

G'day Wolfie, 🤔Damn Southern Hemisphere! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🌏 It is amazing How many people tell me I am 'Blinded by the Lies Of Government & Media' because I was happy to get Vaxed (Not only did I get all the recommended ones as a Kid I have been Flu-Vaxed every year since the late 80's), yet those same people swallow everything they see in the Media or on Social Media about Conditions in Australia 🤔, Emma is Adorable even when she 'Becomes Aggresive'🤣, Much love to your family & Stay safe in your travels during these Carzy Times🥰

[@Wolfie6020]

Thanks Shane, Yes the Southern Hemisphere causes them lots of heartache.

[@sthurston2]

Banjo Is not really consistent with holding the flat Earth belief. Flat means the sites like flightradar are lying all the time yet Banjo accepts their data as factual. I wonder if he is getting pushback from true Flat Earth believers for his silly position. Glober blowback he could ignore but flattie derision would hurt. It is like Banjo works for that sweet positive feedback, it isn't working for QA14, and he can't see what is different.

[@jamesmskipper]

And videos, too. We learned using the acronym M, VEM, J, SUN, Pluto.

[@thesunexpress]

Life would be so much easier for the flerfs, had they just chosen the Goode Homolosine Projection as their go-to Flattardia map.

[@Sherwoody]

It would have too many ups and downs for them, and more edges to fall off.

[@magical_catgirl]

Flat Earthers having a melt down over the QF flight? Just as I expected the second I saw Qantas first mention it would happen.

[@alaingadbois2276]

Of course the map will cause confusion: Australia appears three times and yet we know it is fake!😉

[@bulwinkle]

Going West is just as phlat erf shattering when you realise that you could fly on Concorde from Heathrow to JFK and land in JFK earlier local time than your take off time.

[@StefanReich]

Can we please please please finally see pictures taken at the border of flat earth? Only this will convince me :)

[@andydowse1234]

A couple of years ago my young daughter told me the mnemonic she learned for the planets: My Very Easy Method Just Speeds Up Naming Planets. She wants to be the first woman on Mars.

[@Wolfie6020]

I like that one Andy, I had not heard it before. Thanks. I wish her all the best on her goal.

[@wolfganglaun2319]

@@Wolfie6020 For German kids it used to be (the more natural) "Mein Vater erklärt mir jeden Sonntag unsere neun Planeten." It had to be shortened to "...unseren Nachthimmel." (Word by word translation: My father explains me every Sunday our nine planets/night-sky.)

[@gowdsake7103]

Once again your knowledge and easy tone wins out

[@maddcunukers2101]

I love having a conversation with flat people.. It like i am in a comedy club

[@ReValveiT_01]

How does the Jetstream even work in the sealed snow-globe?

[@Soundbrigade]

There’s a giant fan just underneath the dome. How difficult was that, uh??🤡

[@DarkAngel71180]

You included Pluto in the planets ❤️

[@marvinmartinsYT]

The actual size of Greenland compared to Australia had me amazed. Looking at maps you’d swear Greenland is way bigger than Australia. It’s actually smaller. I’ve used the site and moved New Zealand over the map. Was a little shocked at how large it got over some European countries.

[@Wolfie6020]

I know what you mean. It is Great flying around Europe for us. We cross countries faster than crossing states within Australia. I like hearing the different accents as you go from the UK, over France, Italy and Greece all within a short (to us) space of time.

[@Sherwoody]

On the flathead map, Australia is almost as big as Russia.

[@marvinmartinsYT]

@@Wolfie6020 That would be great. Reminds me of a movie scene from “kingdom of heaven”. Go east until they speak Greek. Then go further where they speak something else.

[@StringerNews1]

Emma didn't even giggle when saying "Uranus"! Give her time... 😉

[@michael9678727]

Love the family video at the end!

[@MemoGGG16]

"Thanks, Bob" Thanks, Dan... Thanks, Wolfie!

[@Extravaganza50667]

Has Banjo 3 channels on KZbin but just upload the same BS ?? All 3 channels also blocking from comments …. He obviously so afraid of the truth and choose to keep lying to himself …

[@bryanmcguire1958]

Well done Wolfie. Demolishing flat earth with simple logic. 👍😀

[@whereswa11y]

Love the last clip, Emma getting excited but wasn't she supposed to be quiet so she didn't wake mamma?

[@Wolfie6020]

We were FaceTiming and Mum was filming. The wink is hilarious. She is such a cheeky kid, in a sweet way.

[@FrenchCrow]

@@Wolfie6020 I missed the wink and had to watch again the last seconds, thanks for that! She's such a funny little one. I had already noticed her very expressive gestures and faces before.

[@Wolfie6020]

@@FrenchCrow She is so cheeky now. She has picked up on the in jokes between my wife and I and plays along too. Always fun and sweet.

[@robertquerlz8314]

U obsessed with Emma!

[@whereswa11y]

@@robertquerlz8314 yes I do see a lot of her clips.

[@Fletch360PS]

"Thanks Bob" :) Brilliant

[@probablynotmyname8521]

Simple geometry... the FE kryptonite...

[@jamesmskipper]

Your family photos are lovely. :) More accurately, good photos of a lovely family.

[@acefox1]

Great video Wolfie!! That section on his tail-wind claim and watching it fall apart under the lightest of scrutiny was beautiful. I had fun pointing out to Banjo that even if QF14 had flown the flat-Earth direct path near the north pole, it would have been an 18,000 mile, 35+ hour flight. A 787-9 would have to carry nearly double its 296,000 lb load capacity just in fuel alone to make that flight & would be 50% over max takeoff weight. And that’s not including any passengers, crew, baggage, etc. Going south and skirting Australia on the AE map would practically double the distance and flight time compared to the north AE route. It’s not even close to physically possible for a 787-9 to fly either route.

[@Forest_Fifer]

Ah, but NASA has supplied Qantas with top secret in flight refuelling tech that has a camouflaged recepticle. They rendezvous with a kc135 piloted by specially trained ninja penguins.

[@acefox1]

@@Forest_Fifer Oh you never see those seekret ninja penguins coming! Oldest trick in the book!

[@michaeleber4752]

I saw one video on KZbin where some dude was stating that our globe is incorrectly showing sizes and shapes of the countries. Why? His girlfriend was using ESRI and he played with the different map projections and the one projection changes shapes and sizes. Thus proving again that when people know nothing they view themselves as the expert while proving they know nothing. Like all the flat earthers.

[@FrenchCrow]

That good old Banjo 🤡

[@prof.cecilycogsworth3204]

Fabulous work, Wolfie. Thanks very much.

[@osci08]

How many times can banjo and flat earthers can get it soooooooooooo wrong, lMFAO. Watch the damage control now lol