NC Turbo Kit UPDATES! - 4K - FM Summer Camp 2024

[@anthonye3680]

I trust anything that FM comes out with i have had 2 turbo Miata a 91 and a 96 both with thier kit, both abused and driven hard as you could possibly do and not once did i have any issues with their products, if i had a NC i would buy this kit without question.. if i find a good deal on an NC this would be my go to kit . Only thing i would want to change is to make a race pipe option to remove cat and allow open tuning so we could upgrade or add more power.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Thanks for the kind words! We cannot legally sell a race pipe, so that won't happen. If you want a different tune, you can source one from your vendor of choice but we doubt it will be an improvement and it will invalidate the emissions legality.

[@arcfire1589]

This is such an awesome seminar, thanks FM team!

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Our pleasure!

[@stujazz49]

Did you happen to test if there is any difference in air flow to the intercooler based on the NC1, NC2, or NC3 bumper cover?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

The front bumper difference don't seem to affect the flow through the IC.

[@fatboi_kitchen1447]

Does the LSD need to be upgraded? Or is the stock one with the NC perfectly fine.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

For street and dual purpose cars, we don't think so but if you know you're an abusive driver, you might add it to the budget.

[@b-west]

Awesome, I'll order one as soon as I can

[@J_Deol]

Great video! Just a question - what interface are you guys using to build the tune/plan on flashing customer cars with?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

We'll be using Ahhtuning software😁 but haven't settled on the interface yet. I'm sure we'll release more details when we get closer to the launch.

[@button-jeff]

Awesome seminar. Awesome kit! Will this kit work with a aftermarket (catted) header from another Miata supplier that rhymes with Roodwin Gracing?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

The turbo manifold, turbo and downpipe replace the header on a turbo car.

[@JETZcorp]

I bought my Roodwin header in anticipation of a Kraftwerks supercharger kit. Headers make a big difference for those, but go in the bin if you do a turbo.

[@ipsc1366]

How is fuel economy impacted?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Well, fuel usage is directly related to power production. So if you've got your foot in it, it's going to use more fuel. The first couple of tanks in particular tend to be a little rough. Once you've settled down, though, cruise economy with our turbo kits tends to be pretty much unchanged.

[@DarthDGAF]

I have a 2010 NC, 55,000 miles - compression test results were between 180-185 psi - would the turbo kit be safe to add to a motor with these results?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

@DarthDGAF Those are very good compression numbers, so we wouldn't be concerned about adding a turbocharger to that engine.

[@Tummymunster]

What size wheel tire combo are on the development cars? Any recommendations on wheel/tire sizes needed to put all the power down?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Our shop NC sits on 17x8 Kogeki wheels with a 235/40/17 tire. Anything above 225 wide with a low treadwear rating should handle the power just fine.

[@Tummymunster]

@@FlyinMiataVideo Do the fenders need to be rolled for that setup? Just to clarify, when you say above 225, you mean 225 wouldn't be enough width and that 235 is essentially the minimum width to get?

[@michaelshane1257]

Is it safe to add the kit to an 08 nc1? You know....non forged internals.

[@philipgoughary]

I have this question as well.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Yeah, as long as you follow our instructions, the kit will be reliable on any year of NC as long as it's in good working condition.

[@michaelshane1257]

​@@FlyinMiataVideosweet! will be looking forward to getting this setup eventually

[@LegalizeTheft]

Will this be compatible with the 2.5L swap?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

@clopperban We haven't tested it yet, but as long as the 2.5 head is in the same place as the 2.0 head - i.e., you use drop mounts - it should physically fit fine. We're working on other aspects of our turbo kit with the 2.5, but we don't have anything solid on that yet.

[@mzerinskas]

Have you guys tested on a NC1? Are the longevity claims with FI with that engine versus the forged internals of NC2/3 overblown in your opinion, or should I search out a NC2/3?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

The NC2 and NC3 Miatas with a manual transmission came with forged internals from the factory, so the engines are theoretically stronger and may handle slightly higher levels of boost better than the previous years. That said, we're still confident the NC1 models will happily and reliably handle our turbo kit, although at a slightly lower potential boost level than the later cars for safety. We actually just finished another prototype install on an NC1 and it's making some pretty healthy power figures. That, and, we used plenty of our supercharger kits on the NC1 cars and we never saw much of a reliability difference between those engines and the later cars, and superchargers are theoretically harder on your engine in some ways. Long story short: Yes, NC1 turbos should be fine.

[@RiptideSwift]

What is the color code on that car?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Winning Blue, exclusive to the 2006 models.

[@thrash3002]

Is there any plan to test fitment on right have drive cars?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

We'd love to at some point, but it's unlikely before the full release.

[@markrobinson1291]

I I've been impatiently waiting for this release, and if the kit is bolt in for my RHD NC1 with a Mazda MZR I live in Australia where there is a pretty solid MX5 community So far, this looks the best designed and looking kit available I've been holding out for this, fingers crossed for all the owners of RHD cars around the world

[@boblast5582]

why the super heavy bar and plate intercooler instead of a tube n fin?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

While each style of intercooler core has its pros and cons, we choose the bar/plate for a few different reasons: generally more resilient to flying debris and better heat transfer, thanks to a larger core. Since bar/plate intercoolers don't require a header plate, the core - which is what actually transfers the vast majority of the heat - can be wider, for better heat transfer and better airflow through the core. Of course, this isn't a generic intercooler, it's custom-built for us by CSF. The core has been tested in a wind tunnel, it's spec'ed specifically for this engine, and the intercooler as a whole is custom for our purposes. So yeah, it is a little heavier than a tube/fin intercooler, but the tradeoffs are worth it. :)

[@colinbowman8816]

No need to adjust piston ring gap for any NC 2.0 with this kit?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Nope. You won't have to do any internal engine mods on the stock components. Now, if you're running some high domes with extremely tight ring gaps, give us a call.

[@marcodebortoli]

Genuine question, what are the main differences between this kit and the BBR one?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

This kit offers full emissions legality, a cast turbine outlet for durability, ideal coolant flow and does not require back and forth for reflashing the ECU due to the OE-quality calibration. And, of course, US-based sales, inventory and support. There are a lot of things that look similar at first glance because of course we're working on the same platform. We'll dive into some of the fine details of the FM kit in future videos.

[@marcodebortoli]

@@FlyinMiataVideo also, will it work with a RHD car? And if so, will you ever ship overseas? 😅

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

@@marcodebortoli We will definitely ship overseas - we'll ship almost all of our products internationally. However, we don't have a solid answer for the RHD question yet - Brandon talks about it for a bit during the seminar. That may end up being another difference between the kits, as of course the BBR kit was engineered to work with RHD cars right from the start.

[@marcodebortoli]

@@FlyinMiataVideo yes my bad, I was commenting whilst watching the video so I didn’t get there yet I think. The legality of the kit is a quite compelling argument of course hence the interest. Thank you for your time and consideration and for continuing to support the community.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

@marcodebortoli You are welcome and thank you for your interest!

[@chrisjoplin3033]

I bought a 2011 that already had the header replaced with a MagnaFlow CARB LEGAL HEADER. Would it be possible to use the Cat in it? And, can we send our header to you for welding?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Our exhaust adaptor fits the factory cat so, it might not fit all cats. For the turbo kit options, we'll have, weld it yourself or we'll happily sell you a complete setup, ready to bolt in.

[@thrash3002]

Would it be possible to buy the kit without the turbo and run something like a g25-550 instead? Will the tune handle something like this? Is this something you might test and offer as an option in the future?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

It's unlikely we'll offer any sort of DIY kit. CARB legality is very important to us, and any changes outside of the CARB-EO we're approved for violate the EO.

[@thrash3002]

@@FlyinMiataVideo what about for overseas customers? Could overseas customers buy the kit sans the turbo itself?

[@spencerstein8525]

I am thinking this will make an excellent project next year. How does the extra 100hp or so work with the NCs short gearing? Any logic in changing the rear axle ratio to lower rpms a little and make the nc turbo more relaxed, especially on the highway?

[@Kiddingmez32]

I would like lower gear ratio too but I think it would require a new calibration. Even without the turbo I’d like a lower gear ratio but especially with a turbo. I wonder how FM feels about the gearing.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

There should be no need to reflash the ECU just because of a final drive change. We have no complaints with the gearing at the moment, but of course people have been tweaking the NC final drive for nearly 20 years and we fully expect them to continue.

[@destro5063]

If someone wanted to, could they just weld a 2.5 inch pipe onto the downpipe to connect to the midpipe?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

The downpipe has a 4" V-band fitting on the end, no need to weld anything to it.

[@boblast5582]

the whole point of this kit is emission compliance, thats THEE reason for it. there are multiple other options on the market if you don't want a cat and don't care about emissions

[@benjaminfavela9541]

Oh man im about to finish grad school and getting ready to start updating a lot of things on my 11 nc, this kit is coming at a great time for me ! Not my wallet though 😅

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

We plan to have them for a long time.

[@thealternativefactor6694]

What about the expected WHHHHHHHHPPPPPPPPP??

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

@thealternativefactor6694 Horsepower numbers will be released once we've finished our testing!

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

@thealternativefactor6694 We've now released a dyno chart for the kit which can be seen on the product listing on our webstore!