FORD F-250 Superduty 6.7L Powerstroke Diesel Heavy Towing **Heavy Mechanic Review** | I Was WRONG..

[@rj3075]

Anyone that can admit when they have made a mistake has my respect. 10/10

[@GettysGarage]

well I appreciate it sir! Isn't the first and probably won't be the last but figured I should try and address it.

[@aaronfrench8322]

And not make a fake ass KZbin Apology video 😂

[@khakiswag]

A humble and honest man admits his mistakes. Just subscribed.

[@GettysGarage]

Thank you sir!

[@fredmcconnelliii]

Subscribed as well. Solid content.

[@NordicNevs]

Same

[@fenderstrat720]

Same

[@keithhall4009]

Same

[@MrFjfry]

A man admits his mistakes, takes ownership and learns from those mistakes. A man's word is everything. You have redeemed yourself. Well done!

[@sarrum7696]

It's an important lesson for all. There's a lot of new pickup truck owners out there. So many videos on KZbin never bother covering all the things involved with knowing how to properly tow a load. - As was shown here, load placement is an important thing to consider when loading a trailer.

[@KeithStarr]

Great video! It’s amazing how much better the towing experience can be when a trailer is loaded ideally, hard to explain but when it’s right you can really feel it.

[@GettysGarage]

100% Keith. I was amazed how rock steady the truck and trailer were. It was a relaxing cruise down the highway without any concern at all. Huge difference

[@darrelltuma4553]

That was great man! I’m a Ford guy and was shocked at your last video. This made up for it and I appreciate the honesty!

[@GettysGarage]

Thanks Darrell, and yes exactly I wanted to give this truck a fair test and review because last week was clearly my own fault

[@GingerO762]

Huge respect for redoing this and being transparent.

[@GettysGarage]

Appreciate it man!

[@bret9741]

I’m old. I grew up driving massively overloaded pickups and trailers… often both so overloaded that springs were bottomed out and tires would blow after a short drive on rocky roads (the rocks would break the cords) and or the retread would separate. We carted two spares for our trailer and two spares for our pickups. A 1960’s 1-ton couldn’t even remotely be as safe or as capable as a 1/2 ton today. I guess the difference from the 1960’s-1980’s is that we weren’t a litigious society. People respected the hard working ranchers, farmers etc and they valued low cost food and high quality products. This meant all the family farms and ranches utilized what ever equipment they could afford to “get the job done”. I recently pulled a 12,000 lbs trailer with an F-150 with max trailer and 3.5 eco. The trailer was loaded perfectly and the truck absolutely handled the load. I use to have a 79 F-350 (400 ci, 4 speed manual, 4:10 gears in length in a crew cab 2x4). The F-150 was a far far safer and better truck than the 1-ton from 1979. Today’s HD pickups are just amazing. It doesn’t matter the brand, it doesn’t matter the fuel (diesel or gas) all of these modern HD trucks are easily as powerful as Semi-trucks of the 1979’s and 1980’s.

[@wolffztalksknives7814]

Lots of respect for going back to revisit something to retry the tow review

[@GettysGarage]

Figured it was for the best to do it properly!

[@sleepyta]

Good job on the retest. You gained a subscriber. Looking forward to the standardized towing tests

[@GettysGarage]

Appreciate the support! I'm excited to get my hands on other trucks and engines to see the differences!

[@Captain-Awesome]

KZbin certainly needs more honest reviewers! In fact, the world needs more honest people, God Bless you and your channel.

[@LinuxNation.]

Total respect from a man who can admit to his own mistakes. Subscribed.

[@dalelangehennig161]

MAN that power stroke is a beast! I miss mine in my 19 F350 dually. Went 2500 Ram to fit in the garage, better empty ride, plenty of power and suspension to pull my boat like a dream. But with my Powerstroke dually it sure felt good to know I could pull a couple of houses if I needed to. LOL!!!

[@rjtwocircles]

Good call on standardizing your tests. I look forward to seeing more tests.

[@G53X0Y0Z0]

The truck on the trailer adds a lot more air resistance, and that can also significantly affect how a trailer tows and the power it takes. I have a 28' enclosed trailer, and it gets about the same mileage with or without a large car in it. The subject might be a good one for you to do a series of controlled tests on.

[@Hjfvvdst]

It appears the trailer is un level, nose down. In a bump situation the trailer tongue will load the hitch with a lot of force. Possibly lifting the front of the truck. That could lead to handling issues, steering. Leveling the trailer with an adjustable hitch would reduce this a lot.

[@armedprophet3321]

I stumbled across your video and I just now subscribed because honesty and integrity is a rare trait nowadays.

[@GettysGarage]

Appreciate it! Just trying to do honest truck reviews!

[@johnvehling6304]

Wonderful content!! I deeply appreciate your candor and humility! No one knows it all, and this is how we all learn!!! Thank You Sir!!

[@spenserbrittain9789]

Ford uses the CP4 because it’s been the only fuel pump that will fit in the available space. Also, Ford has far fewer pump failures than either Ram or GM did with their implementations. There are good aftermarket kits to prevent it from taking out the whole fuel system if it does go, but a decent fuel additive and a little attention to the water separator, and the risk is minimal.

[@GettysGarage]

Just seems odd they still run it. Even if they say it has less failures I just can't get my head around to trusting that pump.

[@stevevaughn8746]

“far fewer pump failures “ is not good enough. No pump failures is the best outcome.

[@spenserbrittain9789]

Why aren’t people listening? Up until about a month ago, there was no option. The 6.7 was designed around the smaller CP4. There hasn’t been another pump available that could take its place on the 6.7 platform. If it’s really so bad, why after Ford had been using it, did both Ram and Chevy switch to the CP4 from the CP3? Because it was junk? No, because it was being used successfully by a major competitor. The fact that both those companies had major failures with it really only speaks to the inadequacies of their fueling systems compared to what Ford did with the Powerstroke. And by the way, zero failures of any part on an engine isn’t a bar that can be reached, so that’s just patently stupid.

[@ForgivenNotForgotten]

You do a great job demonstrating these truck's real world capabilities and simplifying everything. Has been helpful in my truck search for sure. Appreciate you brother keep up the good work 👊

[@mattg8116]

The Hot V and steel pistons alone make it my favorite of the line-up. Second favorite is the D-max, just a good all around engine. The Cummins is fine, but they ceded the power wars 10 years ago. As we all know torque can be geared but you can't really hide the fact that its way down on power from the Powerstroke and Duramax. Weird thing is the Cummins is totally solid for more power, idk why they won't push it harder in stock form.

[@redtitan29]

That would require them to update the transmissions which Ram has been hellbent on not doing.

[@GettysGarage]

Ya the Hot V is a really nice touch from ford, honestly the Powerstroke is really impressive and the Duramax is not far behind it. Honestly all 3 engines are very solid picks these days.

[@mmholling87]

I agree that the V8s are great. Ram could get more from the cummins, but they don't have a transmission that can handle the power. The Aisin is reliable but shifts and feels like the 30 year old design it is plus the HO cummins gives up fuel economy with its much lower compression ratio.

[@ms.annthrope415]

Every engine is a compromise of power, dependability, and reliability. There isn't much power it can make before compromising dependability and reliability. Juice it up too much and it won't last as long. Then you have to upgrade transmissions, driveline, axles, frames, etc.

[@MendicantBias1]

68RFE

[@dantimber]

No biggie. Glad you figured it out. Shows integrity!

[@GettysGarage]

Thanks you sir

[@aaronfrench8322]

Dude, your videos are really impressive! Love the content and layout, keep up the good work!

[@zackdarden6118]

Diesel mechanic here. I own a Chev 2500hd gasser, I love it. I don’t tow very often, but when I do it’s less than 10k. A gas truck was more economical to me than a diesel. Price, fuel, maintenance, etc… what’s your thoughts on this topic since you own a gas 3/4 Ton?

[@GettysGarage]

Im in the same boat as you. If you aren't towing north of like 10k consistently a gas 3/4 will do the job wonderful. The price of a diesel engine now makes it almost a luxury item unless you truly need it to tow some heavy weight

[@wildbill23c]

I got the gas 3/4 ton as well, much older truck, but I don't tow much, and rarely have the need to tow more than 10k unless I borrow a dump trailer to haul some sand or gravel...everything else is in the 7-8k range with a car trailer and my tractor and implements loaded on it. Don't care for the diesel mess, don't care for all the nonsense additional diesel fuel costs, maintenance, and repairs that go along with mentioning the word diesel.

[@mordeth1964]

I own an Australian spec 2010 Ranger 3.0td with direct injection and 5 speed manual. It's an absolutely fantastic bullet proof ute of which I've had zero issues, only scheduled and preventative maintenance. Having said that, if you you could buy one of those beasties in Oz, and they were affordable, I'd buy one in a heart beat. Keep the awesome videos coming👌👌

[@robups87]

I drove hiluxes and rangers in Ireland been in America a few years own an f150 petrol some yoke man but I test drove a new one of these today thinking of buying one they’re serious machines man

[@discusdude35]

Great video, I'm glad you revised your first video to give the rig a fair shake.

[@GettysGarage]

Exactly I just felt like this f250 deserved another proper run

[@Nick-im3sm]

Good to admit mistakes, however I did see another one in this towing test. You really shouldn't leave a gap between your blocks on that trailer. What can happen, is the blocks can shift towards each other even though the straps feel tight upon initial checks. A few big bumps can easily allow enough shift to basically allow the blocks to be loose on the trailer. Long story short, the blocks should be touching side on at least at the base.

[@jnk26]

Any trailer over 10k Gross weight should have 15%. Just because you NEED the weight on the rear axle to "lead" the trailer this is exactly why a GN/5th wheel tows night and day better than a bumper pull counterpart(and the pivot point over the axle) those blocks should be together or have something keeping the space between the two blocks. That motor isn't even working on that hill. You have to understand that standard output motor is pushing more than 1000lbft from 1400-2400rpm. Undersquare all the way

[@hitempguy]

Taylor Ray, a popular drift youtuber in the USA, bought a new f350 powerstroke for reliability. First major trip he did, cp4 exploded. He sold it immediately I believe there are cp3 swap kits available, but sucks to do all that work plus deleting all the emissions equipment is a pain

[@hermancm]

When I get my next truck it will be a 2022 or 2023 F-350 with a 6.7 PS and I’ll look into installing a S&S CP4 disaster prevention kit.

[@wowcantbelieveit2780]

Salute to you for listening and accepting feedback.

[@GettysGarage]

the people spoke and I figured it was only right to redo it.

[@SmokingGouda]

Love the retest and the striving for consistency sir!! Maybe add tfl style fuel economy test? Also, numbers on how long it takes to accelerate from 60-110 each way?(flash imperial converted numbers on screen) Maybe add charts and numbers to help with comparisons too?(kinda like the Torque test channel and Project Farm?) have there been different versions of the cp4? Known failure rates of it? Possible to swap it out with different pump? Keep it up bro! Love the continued growth!!

[@GettysGarage]

That's kind of what I'm hoping to do, might take a little more data before I can make some for of proper scoring/comparison system but that is the goal forsure. full picture I would like to do a video on purely engine review, pros and cons and then strap the trailer behind it and make another video towing with the engine. So we could go over all the "on paper" details and the actually put the engine to work and see how it compares.

[@CS-rb9jk]

How would you rate the duramax vs powerstroke if you had used the same trailer weights? The duramax had a GCW 27160lbs vs powerstroke 21220lbs, thats about 5000lb difference. I like to use consistent comparisons when evaluating performances.

[@mercedesfarmer2574]

I had 12 tons in the bed of my truck 12 ton on my trailer My 2017 power stroke had no problem off-road of course

[@brianconner4854]

24k in the bed of your truck? Hmm. And 24k lbs in your trailer…..

[@dalehunt1383]

Nice save. Good to acknowledge a mistake. You'll never do it again. Lesson learned. 😉 A slight dip at the hitch is good. Good info in your videos.

[@GettysGarage]

Thank you Dale, figured I should address my obvious mistake and do it over again properly. The front of trailer is not dipped too bad but I would like to raise it maybe an inch or so. I fear with the 3500's with 20,000lbs the front trailer axle will take a lot more of the weight because of the front dip.

[@dalehunt1383]

@The Getty Adventures I installed Ride-rite air on the rear of my '22 F350 LB to keep it at ride height.

[@Mattman2500]

Honestly, your videos are good to go. Especially since you're an actual mechanic. Also i pull 14k with my 2022 Ram 6.4L. Its deos it so easy. I pull a 15k gooseneck dump trailer all the time. It likes rpm but pulls great. I live in the northeast U.S . So its not flat at all. Looking forward to the gassers.

[@GettysGarage]

Thanks Mike, ya those 6.4 hemis certainly like the RPM's but man can they pull especially with the 4.10 gears!

[@Mattman2500]

@The Getty Adventures Yep mine has 4:10s. The heaviest I have towed was just over 18,000 lbs. Trailer weight plus weight based off Google. For the machine and attachments. I was definitely overloaded. Only pulled it like 10 miles "farm to farm." I definitely felt it back there, lol. Like I said, 14k for the hemi will be a walk in the park.

[@chadmiller6487]

Same. 15k with my 23 GMC 3500 6.6 gaser with no problem. Pulling horses from MD to FL.

[@Captain-Awesome]

I would really like to see that same hill with the HO Power Stroke.

[@braunzie2]

I understand that the 6.7 has a slow oil pressure when starting up and some have experienced spun bearings.

[@daveb1870]

Most of the cp4 fuel pumps failure is due to poor diesel fuels and they were engineered for eurpoean diesel fuel standards which are lower for the test they perform for the friction tests. A simple fuel additive from hotshots or amsoil will bring it back into the field of european standards and it wont fail "as much". Water in the fuel is killer, filling up and stations where they dont sell a whole lot of diesels should be avoided. Big fueling stations like buckees, walmart, or any big truck station should have less water issues.

[@seresamgala8125]

Great video, I enjoyed it. It was both entertaining and informative. It's very easy to make a mistake, and with thousands of eyeballs trained on you, it'll be quickly identified. Nobody is above it, impervious or perfect; corrections are the proper and just way of handling things. I shall, with great anticipation, look forward to watch your series develop and see you refine and perfect your tests. Thanks for the share!

[@GettysGarage]

Appreciate it sir! my intentions were always good but clearly last week was my own fault and I figured I needed to just clear the air and redo the test!

[@derrickodyes1934]

First dont need crazy power to tow need just enough. With these hi power trucks driven by inexperience drivers towing accidents result. If you didnt think those blocks on rear of your trailer despite tounge wieght wouldnt cause sway your inexperienced at towing too. Moving those blocks even slightly forward over rear trailer axle will reduce sway and min increase in tounge weight. Increasing height on front of trailer can help too.

[@edan7813]

It would be amazing to see the 6.7 Cummins 2023 or 2024 and 6.6 Duramax 10 Spd 2023 or 2024 against this truck with the same load

[@SmokingGouda]

Oh! Also, maybe test the new 6.8 ford gasser? I haven't seen much about it and I'm curious too how it'll compare to the 7.3...(not to mention the 6.6 chevy!)

[@GettysGarage]

I think I'm getting a 7.3L this week but we'll see, hopefully a gasser either way!

[@briancavanaugh7604]

17:10 Gotta love those tesla charging stations, all but one NOT being used. LOL. We just drove about 3000 miles round trip from the North in the USA to the South and back. I think we saw charging stations at 2 gas stations in total. They have their place for certain use cases but I think I will STRONG PASS personally.

[@jordangiesbrecht05]

awesome video! i love that ur doing these towing vids now and all ur other engine reviews. keep up the good work!

[@GettysGarage]

Thanks Jordan! Appreciate it

[@RolandFord-c1q]

never load those big blocks with a big gap between them without support to keep them from moving to the center or shifting to one side . In hard turn the blocks may shift to one side or the other and the traps will loosen and you may lose your load and even flip the trailer over.

[@wildbill23c]

When loading a trailer, most people just throw stuff on it and call it a day...and never give an ounce of thought to how much weight is on the tongue...10% is only a very bare minimum suggestion if the trailer is perfectly loaded...a 15-20% tongue weight would be more accurate in many cases. The type of trailer plays a roll in the tongue weight too. Travel trailers are a huge mess because they have so many different configurations...where your holding tanks are, what is in the trailer on the tongue side of the trailer VS having the holding tanks in the back of the trailer...if the tanks are empty, not a huge deal, but travel trailers and 5th wheel trailers that are pretty long usually have some pretty large capacity tanks, that weight adds up when you have the fresh water tank full, and the other 2 tanks 1/2 full or more, if those tanks are behind the axles of the trailer, it can make or break your towing experience...tow the thing home from the dealer and it tows great...fill up the fresh water tank and not too bad, then you head back home from camp with all the tanks full and you might find a terrible experience due to the weight balance being suddenly far different than previously experienced. Something to mention too, when you load a vehicle on a trailer, you have the suspension of that vehicle on that trailer to contend with, you really want to tie that vehicle down and compress that suspension as much as you can to help limit the bounce/rebound from the suspension of that vehicle on the trailer which is compounded by the trailer suspension...that will also give you terrible towing experiences.

[@allencoleman2319]

OK, let me emphasize some of the things you pointed out. As an owner of a 2020 F250 with, essentially, the same engine and transmission and a 3.31 rear. The exhaust brake is not very good. You were too nice. Lol. As long as the grade isn’t very steep, it does fine. But, a 5, 6 or 7% grade and that engine will hit 3K to 3.5K rpm and you’re still increasing speed. It feels and sounds like the poor engine is going to blow. It’s better than nothing, but not much better. Currently we are towing a medium size RV across the US (about 10K pounds). This past week we went through Shenandoah National Park and the Blueridge Parkway. That stretch of road (a few hundred miles) really worked that engine - and the darn exhaust brake was so frustrating. 35/40 mph down steep grades around turn after turn and that exhaust brake keeps the tranny in 2nd and 3rd gear with the engine screaming at over 3K rpm. You come to a level section and it doesn’t want to let go….still screaming away (tow mode sets the exhaust brake to “on”). So you take it out of tow mode, let the tranny shift to 5th or 6th, then back into tow mode. A real pain. But the power is good. Never any issues with power. I can tow up many hills at 70mph and the thing stays in 10th gear. You can watch the boost increase to almost 30 psi, but it just keeps going. If you use the same trailer/load on the same roads with a Cummins, I would love to hear what you think about the Cummins exhaust brake vs the sorry powerstroke exhaust brake. The CP4 pump. That’s a concern of mine as well. Due to the failure rate in Duramax and Cummins engines I am nervous. I add fuel additives with lubricants in every tank (Archoil AR 6500). If it works, the money spent on additives may help save $10K in a new fuel system down the road. Crossing fingers.

[@mbschrader]

Great info! I have the same configuration as you and am looking at a 12,000 pound travel trailer. Curious to know what your trans temps were while pulling? My truck seems to run hot(195+) and I'm not towing anything yet.

[@allencoleman2319]

@@mbschrader normal tranny temp unloaded is 195-199. Normal tranny temp while towing is 205-210. Engine oil temp while towing is around 210. If I am pulling up a steep incline for more than a few seconds the engine oil temp has gotten as high as 242 - the aux fan will start when things get real hot. Seems these trannys are meant to run a little warm. I have almost 20,000 towing miles and no issues at all.

[@trackpackgt877]

Are you going to do a tow with a coyote I seen you had a couple videos on the 5.0 F150 but not a Towing video with the 5.0 anyway just found your channel I enjoy it

[@bigbubba357m]

From what I’ve read Ford in 2020 also changed up something’s on the CP4 to help with the reliability of it. Not sure if it’s true and correct me if I’m wrong.

[@simplyfreeranged9138]

Nice work redoing the test👍

[@GettysGarage]

Thank you sir!

[@jakewilson24]

I have a 2019 PSD that I use for work, and for me at least the exhaust brake feels non existent unless you put it on full, tow/haul mode, and downshift so the engine revs up. Maybe my judgement is spoiled from the Cummins I had before

[@GettysGarage]

Yes the Cummins is by far the most noticeable lol but on tow haul mode the exhaust brake did seem pretty solid on this PSD

[@jakewilson24]

@@GettysGarage maybe that jump from 2019-2020 where they redesigned the engine gives it a little more stopping power? Definitely interested in the new super duty’s after this retest!

[@kylebutler7142]

Do you set up the tow/haul mode with trailer length etc.? Might enable trailer anti-sway if you tow with all the correct modes. (that's what TFL do...)

[@GettysGarage]

I did not. I put the truck in tow haul and let it do its thing. Maybe in the future I'll set all that up and see if it makes a difference

[@scramjet4610]

Is that being a 4 x 4 and not an F x 4 ever an issue in these towing applications, since the F x 4 has electronic-locking rear differential, hill descent control, the off-road shock absorbers, the skid plates, etc. since, for example, towing a Toy Hauler on a rough road or trail might kick up rocks, etc., and the locking rear differential in the F x 4 might be useful for towing through, say, mud or wet sand?

[@ArthriticAngler]

Great series. Looking at Duramax vs Powerstroke right now. Thoughts

[@scottwhitesell5476]

I see how well this 14k load tows on just the hitch ball and wonder why my 10k travel trailer bucks like crazy with a weight distribution hitch. Any ideas? Should I dump the fancy hitch and just use a ball hitch? I have basically the same truck as you (2023, 6.7 diesel, 8' bed, supercab instead of crew cab).

[@brentmcmahon8188]

The Hot Shot guys have very little problem with the DEF that’s because they work them all the time and that’s Dodge and Ford .

[@brentmcmahon8188]

DPF

[@mikehunt-ew3pm]

thing is the 250 and 350 has the same engine, so hard to compare the performance up hill when ford is towing less

[@northlander4370]

my camper has to use a weight distrubuting/anti sway hitch ...does your cargo trailer not need one ?

[@scottwhitesell5476]

I'm with you. Part of me thinks the wd hitches are a racket.

[@northlander4370]

@@scottwhitesell5476 my camper sits level with the wd hitch....not so much without it .

[@rangervapes571]

Great review, check out the new DCR High Pressure fuel pump.

[@scottandrews4822]

You said that that the fuel filter should be changed every oil change on any diesel motor. I have a 2022 Ram Longhorn with the Ecodiesel engine. I have the fuel filter changed EVERY OTHER oil change. Would you recommend that I change it every oil chabge on this light duty diesel too?

[@MichaelHines-sl3tx]

Another Ford dealer diesel mechanic said every other oil change

[@johnrosebushjr8249]

What’s your opinion on any necessary breakin on these new super duty diesels?

[@armedprophet3321]

I wonder how much better the new high output 6.7 tows, or does it really make a difference.

[@GettysGarage]

Probably makes a difference. I would imagine it's just got more pull to it.

[@wildbill23c]

It just goes faster at a faster rate....shorter engine life span as a result.

[@armedprophet3321]

@@wildbill23c I don’t think it will result in a shorter lifespan of the engine because the compression rate was actually lowered.

[@chucknSC]

Glad to see the difference in load, but- I’m more likely to haul a pickup on a long trailer than a set of concrete weights sitting in the center of a long trailer. I don’t see how putting a load directly over the wheels is anything like a real load that’s distributed on length. Good to know Ford has gone to steel pistons and electronic VGT , both like on a Duramax. Good to see those bumper steps and bed steps too, just like GM started years ago. So when is Ford going to ditch those awful CP4 pumps?

[@GettysGarage]

Ya I guess I get what you are saying. There is a high amount of weight concentration over the axles. But I still think it gives some perspective on how the truck pulls. Honestly I think ford like the CP4 pump because it fits very well on the engine. From what I've read other fuel pumps won't fit and ford would have to do some major modifications.

[@willisbland6377]

I very much enjoy your videos my friend. But in the name of fairness I believe the Duramax deserves a redo with the lower weight to get a real even comparison with the Power Stroke. Thanks again for the content & Im looking forward to more 👍

[@GettysGarage]

100% sir. The duramax was also a 3500 so that is why I had so much more weight on it. But we'll do a 2500 duramax with the same weight!

[@codylast6697]

I'm looking into a F250 6.7L Powerstroke 3.31 ratio crew cab with the 6.75' box 4x4. What is the tow capacity on this truck? I've been doing research, and Im finding 15,800lbs conventional towing. Is that accurate?

[@bradshumate783]

I have a 21 ram 2500 now and we tow a toy hauler that’s around 9k lbs and can get up to 11 loaded. However the bumper pull tongue weight on it is 1600 plus most of the time no matter how well I load it. It’s a nuts tongue weight for the size, all campers are these days. My 21 2500 I am fine with the power. We have tried everything however and our highways like 70 easy and west between Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois are absolutely awful and the 2500 ram beats us up. With or without WD and with bags the rear end ride especially is violent. I am curious with your experience between the new f250 and 350, and the ram 2500 and 3500 HO, which did you feel rode the best on bumps and bad bridge transitions loaded with 14k? I don’t so much mind how they do unloaded. I have a full thuren setup under the truck and unloaded as you mentioned being coils it rides amazing. I am wondering if there is a better ride loaded down or is this as good as it gets. Thanks sir. Found a subscriber in me

[@johnshuler1396]

What year truck are you driving? If you mentioned it, I missed it.

[@camacdav000]

I hope you review the HO soon

[@GettysGarage]

I can't even imagine how much power that thing probably has

[@mikes1292]

Should do 0 to 60 with them blocks 😲

[@GettysGarage]

Honestly highly considering it, just not sure where I would be able to do it. But I'm sure I can work something out.

[@keaganlockwood9294]

*driveshaft has left the chat*

[@mikes1292]

@@GettysGarage probably should do a rolling hit from like 20km to not break anything

[@pjseiber2774]

Great video

[@jimmyfaherty8588]

That front tire on the trailer looked low?

[@colinoneill7659]

What fuel mileage did you get pulling 14k?

[@jimdel9647]

What’s the rear end gear ratio

[@tedll75]

Great Video!!!!

[@GettysGarage]

Thank you sir!

[@98silver98]

you mention your competitor who does and has been doing this same thing for a while now. what are you going to bring to the table that they don't. The ike gauntlet has been set for a long time and they have done some many vehicles over years. They have a ton of data from the years. just honest question because you mentioned lack of views. good luck man

[@GettysGarage]

TFL does a fantastic job, where I think they lack is their mechanical knowledge, I'm a licensed diesel mechanic so I understand these trucks from a much more in depth perspective. the towing tests are just another fun element to the full engines reviews.

[@MichaelCsikos]

With 1400 lbs on the towball does the rear suspension barely squat at all?

[@GettysGarage]

She dropped just over an inch

[@1hasbeen531]

Don't forget the fools at Ram/Cummins joined the CP4 disaster club in '19 and '20.

[@ck3561]

I’ve always been curious about getting information from someone who has had a cp4 actually crap out. I have a fleet (small fleet 6 trucks) we have never had a pump go out but unfortunately idle time is a killer on the DPF system. I have two job inspectors who also drops equipment at jobsites and they don’t have DPF issues (no idle time) my other guys sometimes sit and run A/C on breaks and lunch.

[@GettysGarage]

Haha I know it shocked me Ram went to that pump. Thankfully they made a swift U-turn

[@dantimber]

Thanks!

[@DH-hp7nv]

To add a viewer perspective….. I get trying to expand the material on the channel with towing / driving tests, however there are plenty of other channels that already and have been doing towing tests, fuel eco runs, etc… Please don’t lose focus on your ability to take the technical dives into all these engines. I really found interest in listening to you explain the internals and how well they do or do not work, making a good or poor engine. There are not many other channels that go into this type of info, only how the infotainment works, which some of us just don’t care about.

[@GettysGarage]

Appreciate the comment! I don't plan on stopping the technical dives into these engine at all! I just think having a nice towing set up would be a nice compliment to the reviews. I can talk all about the engine and then actually load it up and see how it performs instead of just driving an empty truck.

[@MendicantBias1]

Why don’t we see weight distribution hitches on heavy duty trucks?

[@gdavis8588]

I wonder why too. My 2014 F250 with 4:30 gears and 6.2 is only rated for 12.5K in the receiver hitch with a WDH, 6K without. Diesels are a little higher, 14K with WDH.

[@TheMacronical]

Respect for admitting your mistake, hey we are all only human after all. Gained alot of respect for that here in the comments I see, great to see it as well As for the truck, well it's a Ford lol

[@GettysGarage]

Thank you sir. And well yes it is a Ford lol but that powerstroke has some power behind it!

[@mikewarren1401]

Ford looks like it squats more than chevy. Chevy also towed 20,000

[@realcdcruze3558]

Does the trailer not accept torsion bars?

[@GettysGarage]

No I looked at getting a weight distributing hitch but I'd have to modify it to fit this trailer.

[@linhjayfetterman]

thanks

[@Tommypollock]

20,000 towing pounds for 3500 dually, what about SRW 3500’s.

[@GettysGarage]

I mean a SRW 3500 will tow 20,000lbs all day but interesting point. maybe I'll have a separate weight for dually's and SRW 3500's!

[@Tommypollock]

My Ram Limited Mega Cab standard output 3500 SRW is rated right at 20K. I’m positive it can tow it well. The HO 3500 SRW has much more towing capacity probably because the Aisin transmission. A fully loaded out Diesel truck has less capacity than a base model.

[@acacia987]

is the gasser going to be the 7.3?

[@GettysGarage]

I'm not sure just yet! But potentially

[@kerryjacobs472]

I just started a new savings acct incase my fuel pump detonates. : )

[@jackylsmith8138]

Get rid of the bumper pull trailer step up to a gooseneck, you’ll never look back.

[@tattooedmillionair]

If you also have experience with a 5th wheel, which is better: 5th wheel or goose-neck (and please try to explain why)

[@machaf]

wow 14k..is that a v8 gasser?

[@GettysGarage]

Nope 6.7 powerstroke diesel

[@franzguenther7615]

I see you still have not loaded your trailer properly. Those blocks are way too far apart. They're going to bounce loosen and could fall off your trailer in a emergency situation

[@GettysGarage]

I'll put em closer

[@DavidGutierrez-yk6hw]

You lost me when you started using 1500,2500,3500. I’m sure it’s still ok to call the trucks half ton, 3/4 ton and 1 ton.

[@tomedgar4375]

I don’t use TFL for a serious comparison, they are entertainment

[@fozzybear9114]

Doesnt ram have cp4? Why wasnt this mentioned? Im a ram guy but am looking at pstroke this time. Ram is a complete dog unloaded to 60mph. Wont do that again

[@GettysGarage]

The 2019 and 2020 cummins had the CP4 fuel pumps on them but ram switched back in 2021 I believe to the pretty bullet proof cp3 fuel pump.

[@bellat8448]

To me any heavy bumper pull with a single wheel truck is miserable

[@GettysGarage]

Agreed it's not ideal but for now it will still be a solid comparison between brands

[@richardbrown4816]

👍

[@Dggb2345]

Virtual Molsens to yah

[@gabrielmovers8689]

The frontend so ugly they not selling any of this trucks in Houston texas

[@roadglide1142]

Frankly your not testing the HO Engine so not interested!!! We all know how this engine tows. Test new improved engine next time please !

[@GettysGarage]

I'll get my hands on one eventually do not fear!

[@shockster300zx]

Wow guy was dogging Ford and can't even load a trailer proper, maybe just work on trucks and stop hauling them.