Ford FAN stuck on - 6.7 Powerstroke diesel truck

[@kennethgibson1702]

My truck has been doing this for the last 2 years. It started it randomly every once in a while, and now its always engaged. Thanks for the help.

[@davidvrh]

ARod - THANK YOU! My 2016 F450 started with this issue last week and I had no idea what was causing it. Came to your channel for answers and I found them. Installed the new fan clutch today and all is back to normal. Appreciate you!!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Now, that's why we do what we do!! 🫡

[@jessehenderson8759]

What temp should the fan kick on on 2015 and is there any way to test them?

[@mikesrubbishandrecycling9259]

I heard a funny noise and the A/C started to act weird about a week ago. Drove to Vegas yesterday towing my 44' FW and the over temp light came on. I notice the fan was spinning with the wind blowing in the grill. I started the truck up and could hold the fan. Truck cooled down and drove the last 60 miles at 60 mph with no temp issues. Did notice that if the oil temp got to 230 the water temp started to rise. Of course it only did it with a load on it. Could not fine a dealer that had a clutch so had to do AutoZone. Got it home without the trailer and going to change it after breakfast. I have a 2015 F250 PS with 195K miles. Watching your videos are great. Appreciate you posting all the info.

[@ddshortt]

Air hammer nut trick worked perfectly. Many Thanks! 👍

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Wouldn't do it any other way

[@vanderpoolfarmsl.l.c.9983]

Excellent methodology, and procedure. And for me; I am impressed with the air chisel method. Great job and thank you!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Very nice

[@GeorgeRoyGolf]

Dude I’ve been trying to figure this out for months, and finally stumbled across your video today. Sad thing is, the noise started when I replaced the fan clutch. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Was a ford clutch

[@GeorgeRoyGolf]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod yes, an OEM motorcraft clutch. Mine is a 2008 f250, but it's exactly this issue.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Watch my 6.4 fan clutch vid

[@treyinok]

Nice work! The only time my fan has run at that kind of speed was when I was doing a forced regen in the driveway. Sounds like the thing is preparing to take flight...

[@nativeoutdoors1780]

Did that at work on our 6.7 was awesome to hear first thing in the morning but I was more amazed at how well Ford has designed the engine to remain cool during the process. To go from Navistar 6.4 spitting flames and cooking cylinders 7 and 8 to having my oil temp sit at 180 during a stationary Regen, really amazing

[@rickszabo4312]

Great diag. Great job, Our 550's all have underhood v-mac compressors .Sucks to be us.Got to remove upper shroud. We found on the earlier 6.7's the fan's themselves develope cracks in them around the mounting stud area, but they don't break apart but we will replace them. Doing the main water pump on a 16 power stroke right now, kinda hating my life at the moment ,the lower 2 LH bolts are nasty behind the plastic battery cable tray and the P/S hose.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

I have a trick for that pal

[@rickszabo4312]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Thanks ,went back to your Feb 2019 vid, Thank god I'm not flat rate cause I would of lost My shirt and pants on this job.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Thanks for goin that far back. We appreciate chu

[@KyleLewis-f6w]

Love the testing procedure you used.👍

[@Wakeupandsniffthecoffee]

After five fan clutches, with only one that worked right, but got damaged in an accident, I just pulled the fan clutch off my Dodge Dakota yesterday. The electric fan comes at 180 degrees and shuts back off about 160 and keeps the engine cool. Of course it's winter, maybe summer will be a different issue. I don't tow heavy loads and rarely climb mountains. I swapped two under warranty and they seem to be just too tight. Years ago on the island of Lanai in Hawaii, I serviced the plantations radios and drive a few GMC vehicles and thought that GMC's were just that loud. In the last two years I realized how much the fan clutch is the problem.

[@michaelanderson6937]

Thanks for the video, very helpfull. I could not get the old fan clutch out once removed from the water pump, without taking the 2 nuts off the shroud and moving it forward a bit. Its a 21 6.7 dually, maybe a slightly larger part?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

No still the exact same

[@nickb5084]

great video saved me loads of time keep em comiong thnk u

[@dr650dualsport]

You just don’t give up man!

[@himni1]

Didn’t look like too much of a pain to do as long as your hands and fingers can fit. Going to have to look up how those clutches work since my brain hurts thinking about how they work and go at a speed different from engine rpm. 😂 Keep pumping the good content out.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Haha just like a mini torque convertor

[@himni1]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod was it going faster than engine rpm though?

[@chekelley6861]

@@himni1 the pulley on the fan clutch is smaller than the crankshaft harmonic balancer pulley, so it’s overdriven.

[@lancematias3592]

Hey great video. I just installed a new fan clutch and water pump, and my fan is now running constantly. I also had a new hvac compessor installed (FYI). any ideas why my new fan is now constantly running? Please help

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Did u take it for a drive

[@josephvella3688]

I had this problem! Was on a trip from NY to Florida. Brought it in to a FL dealership. And they said that's how it was supposed to run. Doing 75 on the highway with it running at 2500 rpm, actual and desired pids were 2 different worlds. Went to my home dealership in NY and they took care of it properly.

[@vince5506]

Must have been one of those Michigan pot holes that broke the clutch 🤣 Great vid!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yeppp

[@wingspantt]

THANK YOU. I have a totally different car but the same issue.

[@rigsnrvs]

I have 800 miles on my ‘22 F350. The fan has been on for the past 150 miles. Took it to the dealer and they said is working as designed. Now I have an appointment at another dealership.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

They are looooooney. Ford wants that clutch, STAT

[@stevenfuchs2548]

Another great video ARod, Thanks. Must not have been to bad as there were no nasty words spouted😁

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

No sparks spat

[@michaelclark158]

Did you use a dull chisel bit with the air hammer? I have a wrench set that goes with the aie hammer and I can't get mine to budge.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yepp only way I do it

[@David-oj7kt]

O you turned it counter clockwise to remove from the front of the vehicle??? Correct Towards the air box to remove ?!!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Lefty loosey right tighty

[@ajsemtb]

I subbed for this video!! Great job!!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

🙏🙏🙏

[@darinvanderpol3351]

Had this problem on my '20. Started at 2500 miles, finally fixed at 11,000 miles. Two tries from the dealer. First one they took the whole dash out and changed a sensor on the A/C. Didn't do it. Step two was change the fan clutch needed that fixed it. Was so annoying and loud I was ready to get rid of the truck. No joke.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Omggg

[@Kam0917]

Arod, would this procedure work for a 2018 super duty with a 6.2? Is there a better procedure for that configuration? Thank you sir.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yes very similar

[@tonypaz3985]

You make it look easy 😅

[@riverwade]

I picked up my new 2022 f250 Powerstroke a few months ago and I think I've had this issue from day 1 but it wasn't as exacerbated until this past weekend when I picked up my new camper and struggled to get it home. I hope driving like this for a couple hundred miles didn't do any permanent damage. Less than 2000 miles on it and dealer confirmed it was this stuck fan and will get a new one installed tomorrow. I'm hoping I will notice how awesome a truck it really is because from the day I got it, I was never impressed and I chalked it up to me owning my first diesel. Also, seeing a bunch of 2022 trucks with this, maybe they had a bad batch of parts?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

I think so

[@hollywoodmarine8828]

Had the same problem on my 2022 F250, with only 3000 miles. Apparently there is a TSB about an evaporator switch. The dealer did that first, but the problem remained. They realized the problem was the fan clutch, and replaced it. Everything is good now, well…now my clearance lights are leaking 😬. I hope my F250 isn’t a lemon. It only has 4300 miles. Love the truck, hate the problems.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

I know for a fact that Ford engineering wants a fan clutch like NOW!!!!!!!!

[@jerryknorr679]

Very good video ARod thanks for sharing ARod

[@Kam0917]

Arod, thanks for your rapid response. I've been chasing down a plethora of noises emanating from my "new to me" truck with less then 40k miles. Ruled out intake manifold. I'm convinced it might be drive accessories. Any wisdom you can pass on? Thank you sir.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

How do i know what these noises are from here.....

[@Kam0917]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod No problem sir. I appreciate your time and for you sharing your knowledge.

[@mjc250]

I pull the fan shroud, I've got sausage fingers and big arms. Not a chance I can do that your way 🤣

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Hey i can feel ya on that

[@woodwardoutdoors7742]

What would be the next step in the diagnostic process? Would a thermostat sticking cause the fan to stay engaged? I’ve replaced my clutch last week and the problem still exists. Any ideas on what else would cause this to happen?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

You'd have to go through the pinpoint. Tests for fan operation

[@woodwardoutdoors7742]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARodoooohh so your saying just throw a rag in the tank and see what happens?? Got it 😂😂. If you were in Florida I would let you tear into it and figure it out.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

@woodwardoutdoors7742 email me, we will be back in 2 weeks

[@mjbskidoo]

Gotta love our roads …lol. Another great video bud!!!

[@jonathanscripter7125]

I just installed a ranchhand bumper and grill guard on my 2021 f450 over the weekend and now I’m having this problem do you think the ranchhand grill guard could be restricting airflow? I noticed too that my transmission temp is about 10 degrees hotter than normal running around 215 to 225

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Ehhhh, probably needs a clutch

[@McCoy_Judd]

Well, this method worked like a glove on my removal today. Had the faulty one out in about 1.5 hours. Air hammer is the bread and butter. Now time to pick up the new one in the morning. Sucks, mine only made it to 24k on my 21 f450. Didn't want to mess with the nightmare of a process for a warranty. Sooooooo, 650 plus tax for the clutch and 30 bucks for a faulty bed marker light. Darn truck is too new for this bs.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Have done multiple of your style

[@McCoy_Judd]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod she was sounding like a 747 on take off....lol. Thanks for what you do brother

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

@McCoy_Judd 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@douglasevans8301]

Awesone Job, thanks for the tips!

[@dldirtworksllc]

Thank you🙏🙏🙏

[@edwardkirkland686]

I’ve always been told the clutch was left hand thread? Is it not? Thanks.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

If it was an awful 6.4

[@edwardkirkland686]

Thanks ARod have a good weekend buddy!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

U2

[@Wakeupandsniffthecoffee]

One of those "use the force Luke" type jobs to get the fan blade back on.

[@neilbrew8985]

Great video! Electric fan clutches are a bad Ford idea.

[@nativeoutdoors1780]

Idk I think it's a smart move, computer controls when it kicks on and off, meaning that Ford can turn it on to cool the engine before a Regen and then keep it running the whole time to keep the engine at optimum temp. Besides what's the better alternative?

[@jimmyaber5920]

They are used on all the big 3 diesels and on HD gas burner pickups. Ford and Ram started in 2003 with Gm doing it later, 2007 I believe.

[@Doc.Holiday]

ARod…I just had my belt replaced as a PM at Ford in Cody Wyoming. A few days ago. Now I’m getting this symptom with fan racing in central Montana with no engine lights and operating temps good. Is there anything simple that the tech in Cody may have not plugged in or done causing this? Or, should I just have it replaced? BTW, 11, F250, 6.7 with 219,000m. and original Fan Clutch.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Tyme fer a clutchy DOC

[@emellina1]

sweet repair!!! 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

[@TJ-qz6hr]

Freaked me out when I first seen the ribbed part of the belt facing out on the alternator pulley. Never seen that before?

[@danwelder]

Thank you, thank you, thank you! I purchased a used 2018, F350, and noticed this “howling” sound when cruising over 65mph on the highway, but not all the time. Recorded the sound (pretty loud and annoying) and my local Ford dealer couldn’t find the problem and told me it was normal! I’m able to do some work on my car and am thinking of tackling this job myself, but I noticed there are different ratings (standard, heavy duty, severe duty, and truck). I can find no explanation for the differences in each, so I can’t determine which one to use. Can you help? Thanks! - Dan

[@steveh7108]

Will the fan clutch speed sensor affect the air conditioner ? My dealer is telling me that the air conditioner is not working because of the fan clutch speed sensor is bad. They also say a new fan is $900😱🤯

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

....I meannnnn sorta right

[@steveh7108]

Is it possible to just bypass one particular wire so the AC works ? I appreciated your last reply and hope you give another one to this question as well. Plus I'm wondering if anyone has ever just sprayed it down with WD-40 to improve the contact. In the old days that would work for some electrical problems.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

No, that speed sensor is all integrated in the fan clutch.

[@andrewwalker3055]

My 2019 is doing the same thing. I just replaced my fan clutch and it’s still doing it. Any ideas why that would be?

[@nickb5084]

Great video Thnks a lot

[@michaelchan8915]

YUP! I had to do this very job on my 2016 about four years ago

[@bergracing5b547]

I'm guessing my clutch fan is bad also as it stays on until about 45 MPH, 2011 f350 6.7

[@crashmyparty]

My truck has this same problem. Has Ford made an updated fan clutch so I don’t have this same issue again?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Looks the same to me.....i know...😔😔

[@crashmyparty]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod So is it worth taking it to the dealer and getting a new fan clutch or am I gonna run into the same problem again?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

I wld yes & HAVE THEM CHECK UR A/C PRESSURE!!!

[@crashmyparty]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod what does A/C pressure have to do with the fan clutch?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Good question.....when its hot out & the pressures are high What do you think the PCM is gonna do to the fan 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@KoleDevR]

For replacing cam position sensor would you only remove fan to access the connector and bolt to remove sensor?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yes, why are you replacing that

[@KoleDevR]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod had a p0016 code. And truck running fine so believe it’s sensor was told those sometimes go out.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Absolutely not. P0016 on these trucks is not good. I can assure you from here that, the CMP sensor is NOT your problem

[@KoleDevR]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod was just going to start there and if it’s not the issue I’ll take the next step from there and get new short block.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Dont waste ur time. I will tell u is NOT the sensor. They do not fail. Ive worked on them since they came out, only one i replaced was one on a rebuild that i busted by mistake

[@roybeltran3767]

Would mine be going out? it only does it in the mornings but goes away and very rarely on the highway driving it? Should I be concerned

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

I wld be if it was ALL the time, i feel your description is normal operation

[@EBSCC]

Dealer told me that I was "hearing things" and that it would work itself out. Didn't mention that you could scope the fan rpm or anything else. 2021 did this from NEW and it's like I'm driving an air boat around. New clutch, here I come. Do it myself so that those jackals don't get my service truck out of service for a week.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Bro, that is just awful. Come see me & ill get that thing situated for ya. 21 & theyre tellin you that it will work itself out.....wtf is the matter with these bozos

[@Wakeupandsniffthecoffee]

5:31 I thought it was tough to get to my fan clutch on my Dodge Dakota, but it's a walk in the park compared to this.

[@jessehenderson8759]

On 2015 f350 what temp should it kick on? Had mine up to 219-221 towing I haven’t heard it.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Id say it should have been coming on. WITH THE ENGINE OFF can you grab the fan and move it freely or does it have some resistance....?

[@jessehenderson8759]

Thanks for the respond, it definitely has some resistance.

[@Jack-xd9og]

I'm having the same problem on my 2022 F250 6.7 that only has about 5600 miles on it. Do you have any recommendations on how I make sure the dealer takes care of the issue in terms of making sure they run the correct diagnostics like you did? I don't want to being it down and have them give me the runaround.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Ford WANTS that clutch they shld knw that

[@jamjon85]

Holy shit that air filter might have been the problem 😂

[@a2022z2]

Have had that happened several time on my 6.7. Most of the time when driving on high altitude. +7000 feet. No high oil temps , no codes……

[@johntyson]

Hey, man. I’m getting the “pissed off ghost” fan noise at high rpm when the engine is still cold (154 oil temp) but it is 102 degrees outside. Is it just running the fan preemptively because the outside temp is high?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Naww u prolly gotta change that boi out

[@johntyson]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Thanks for getting back to me. You’re the man, man!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

No problem, man! 🤣😉

[@matthewfort3740]

My 2012 does it one in a while on first start up. But once I get out of the driveway and put on the pedal. It goes back to normal after a few seconds.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Norms

[@TheYeyo28]

Have you ever had to replace a power steering pump?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Juss a few. Not many...

[@jonathanmacklin7151]

I have a p0529:00 2f fan speed sensor circuit intermittent fault . Before and after replacing the fan

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Did u go thru the pin point tests?

[@jonathanmacklin7151]

I have not done so. Through scan tool I know I have power but when I command the fan it's not showing communication.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

@jonathanmacklin7151 pin point test time

[@jonathanmacklin7151]

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod will do . Can't wait and hopefully this isn't above my pay grade . Hate electrical work

[@jonathanmacklin7151]

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I found the issue whoever replaced the water pump smashed the fan harness in-between the block. I had to rewire 2 inches of wire harness

[@jimmymccoy967]

Unfortunately my F350 Dually has the same issue I’m dreading doing the change out…

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Easy homie

[@jakethesk8roberts763]

My ac compressor just took a crap and it stayed engaged w burning up my belts and mad a nock sound I have a 2013 f250 6.7

[@3374jj]

Viscous fluid check ball stuck in the fan clutch,huh?

[@Sultanoftheblind]

Hey man, my fan keeps going on and off on a cold start is that normal

[@01Z28smith]

I have this issue but only when ac is on any ideas????

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Theres a tsb for that

[@01Z28smith]

P0495 & P0529 but like mentioned only when ac is on and ac cools perfect. I will look up the tsb just found a site to show me these thank you!

[@drewnicest4319]

Drove a few miles after losing the belt to a bad tensioner. New tensioner, idler pulleys, and belt. Everything works great but having a fan clutch issue with AC on. Couldn't find that tsb unless it was just a PCM update. Russell, what wound up being the issue with yours? Going to try a PCM reset tomorrow.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Time for a clutch guy...

[@drewnicest4319]

Really? 😭 It worked perfect before the tensioner broke...

[@jonathanmacklin7151]

Replaced fan clutch assembly . Fan still running 100%

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Did you try commanding with the scan tool??

[@jonathanmacklin7151]

I have not. If that doesn't work where do I go from there

[@jessecrocker8025]

What will happen if you don’t fix this?

[@NikiGraham-nx9wj]

We have replaced the fan clutch due to it sticking on, also the sensor, and replaced freon. Still stays engaged. Any other ideas????

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Probably junk clutch

[@jacklks269]

do you think it would be ok to convert to an electric fan?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

No

[@nativeoutdoors1780]

Electric fans don't produce enough cooling wind to even remotely compare to a clutch set up

[@1stopfactory]

So what if you don’t hear the fans at all my truck fan doesn’t makes any noise but it’s temp start going up once sitting in traffic

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Then maybe your trucks fan is not working

[@kaydaalex]

What if you replaced it on a 19 f550 and it’s still doing it

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Was it a ford clutch

[@kaydaalex]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod yes oem from the dealer

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Can u use a scan tool to active command

[@Wakeupandsniffthecoffee]

Mine came out with the fan, thank goodness.

[@josephcirelli9642]

That’s is one loud fan!

[@matthewgarza4363]

Mine is making that same sound on my 22 with only 4500 miles

[@DetroitDeadPool…™]

On my 2018.the fan stays on when I run the A/C even when not on heavy load or super hot out...

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Detroit, huh....

[@DetroitDeadPool…™]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod yes soon as I turn on my AC my fan clutch engages and stays on the whole time no matter what the ambient temperature is or load for that matter completely empty or pulling something figure it's the fan clutch that's messed up no codes

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Fan clutch time

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

R u in detroit

[@raecross8872]

Yup finally figured it out...sounds like a 460 gas engine being over revved

[@GeorgeLiquor]

I got my F650 3 months ago, and the fan hasn't shut off. At all.

[@stillgrowinglandscapellc]

I have a 2019 f450 6.7 powerstroke my AC started getting hot so I mess with the actuator blend door motor and ever since then if I turn my AC on my clutch fan does that anyone have any advice

[@tuib]

Impressive.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

👍

[@imranabbasi7871]

👍

[@3374jj]

Great vid bro. How to do a task, without pulling half the engine e apart

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Riight

[@timmyclancy]

Had a low power reading on my dash this winter took to dealer was told fan clutch was the issue did notice it was always on as well sucky this wasn’t under warranty for your customer mine was this is why I have a 125000 mile warranty from ford

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Shlda been

[@thezemog123]

my pulley spins when i try to get it loose

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

You're not supposed to take the belt off yet. Take the fan off, then the belt

[@thezemog123]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod i got it off had to buy a pulley holder thanks ur video helped alot just got a code now for air cooler below threshold hope it just my sensor for the air manifold

[@tylerhowerton8518]

Can anybody help me my issue is that the high speed fan is on pretty much all the time I replaced the clutch already and still same exact issue 😅💪🏻

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

We need to diag it

[@holmesd5003]

this seems to be a common issue

[@johnkeith35]

The belt is on wrong

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

.....i dont think so tim

Make the video longer, I fell asleep ten times watching it and still didn’t get thru the entire thing

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

.....tooooo bad you fell asleep when nothing goes right....I guess you didn't go left...........

[@pbr549]

You may want to help just ford me. Just saying.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

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