Ford Mustang Mach 1 v GT track test and performance review

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@GuitarFreak881
@GuitarFreak881 3 жыл бұрын
"Could use a little more top-end" Only revs the GT to 6k rpm when it redlines at 7,500...
@daily6633
@daily6633 8 ай бұрын
It’s pretty flat up top.
@Hapkido82AUS
@Hapkido82AUS 7 ай бұрын
Revs to 7500 Runs out of puff at 6000...
@pal_977
@pal_977 3 жыл бұрын
The reason why the top end was lazy is because you had 1000rpm left lol
@maclaganbro
@maclaganbro 3 жыл бұрын
Probably the best track-oriented review on the Mach 1 done so far, especially given that most viewers are intensely keen to understand the GT/Mach 1 differences. Like your MX-5 GT RS review, highly informative for the prospective purchaser. Thanks mate, I had as much fun watching it as you did making it!
@2004lesk01
@2004lesk01 3 жыл бұрын
yep just went around in one, my mate has one, we went for 30 laps and we just drove home after it!! what a car!
@swanblake
@swanblake 3 жыл бұрын
This was fantastic! Two manual, NA V8s go head to head just doesn't get better than this. I wish Ford offered the better built/shifting Tremec on the GT.
@Toymonkeyjr
@Toymonkeyjr 3 жыл бұрын
Then they would lose a big segment of their gt350/gt500/shelby buyers, and eventually the market would phase out those vehicles because they wouldn't make much profit
@ricardopalma3714
@ricardopalma3714 2 жыл бұрын
Tremec GT coming in 7 days :)
@nurzrachit7133
@nurzrachit7133 Жыл бұрын
Thats why I paid less for an SS 1LE and got more for me money
@SteveC-Aus
@SteveC-Aus 3 жыл бұрын
Could watch Atko driving on track all day, this is quickly becoming the best car channel. Love the camera work/no stupid music over engine noise etc.
@brucetumblinjr7980
@brucetumblinjr7980 3 жыл бұрын
the 6-speed TREMEC alone is worth me getting the Mach 1 Premium (with the Elite & Handling package of course)
@al151
@al151 2 жыл бұрын
Too late to the party. Chevy has been putting TREMEC into even a 4 cylinder camaro. I owned a mustang and never will. Ford should have dropped the mt82 long time ago. They are cheap as hell.
@chrissanchez9218
@chrissanchez9218 2 жыл бұрын
@@al151 hate that otherwise would’ve gotten the 6 speed but got the 10 speed was about to get an lt1 camaro in a 6 speed but didn’t like the visibility
@2003evodave
@2003evodave 2 жыл бұрын
@@al151 LOL,,,not the same trans by far.
@warboyrb
@warboyrb Жыл бұрын
You can now order Dark Horse. That comes with Tremec.
@timcollins380
@timcollins380 3 жыл бұрын
I have a GT FN Manual. My last 2 cars have been F80 M3s, one normal, one competition. Domestic circumstances forced a change to something less than 1/2 the price. As a semi daily and weekend car, the FN GT has impressed me hugely. Its fun to drive, sounds great and the build quality is better than I thought it would be. I think its hard to beat bang for your buck. Let's face it, time to be able to buy a new 5.0 V8 Muscle car is running out. I have a new manual GT on order.
@eamondoherty
@eamondoherty 3 жыл бұрын
I think I’d save the $20k, that’s a supercharger and decent set of coilovers or diff upgrade.
@CarExpertAus
@CarExpertAus 3 жыл бұрын
But could void the warranty 😳
@dominikmervart
@dominikmervart 3 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget the addiotinal oil cooler, transmission cooler, differential cooler and air to brakes duct, that will help with endurance. GT goes into limp mode after 2-3 laps. More reliable transmission has a cost of its own. Supercharger won't help you much in technical curcuits with short straights either. Weird price difference you got there, the difference between GT PP1 with Magneride and active exhaust is 3.5k USD (5k AUD) in the USA. And here in Europe I payed 14k USD (19k AUD) more for the Mach 1 over GT PP1 (without a hesitation I might add) :)
@aimanfitri0iv
@aimanfitri0iv 3 жыл бұрын
@@dominikmervart there was another one called performance pack level 2 but only in north america not to be sold outside north america but you can import the parts
@gholla630
@gholla630 3 жыл бұрын
And also worse resale value and pedigree than the Mach
@aimanfitri0iv
@aimanfitri0iv 3 жыл бұрын
@@gholla630 because performance pack level 2 is considered very rare because it makes very low number in production
@douger1517
@douger1517 3 жыл бұрын
Really love these track reviews that’s what got me to subscribe. Keep them up especially the comparisons that go on at the pub that can be settled on the track. Excellent driver reviews a real asset to the channel …. more please.
@rickybobby8224
@rickybobby8224 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. A track review that actually talks about what we want to know for the track.
@A.ChristopherJohnson
@A.ChristopherJohnson 3 жыл бұрын
Magnaride is EVERYTHING DUDE !!
@2004lesk01
@2004lesk01 3 жыл бұрын
There is a lot of people commented from the US. FYI this is an Australian video. We dont have the pleasure/ nor the luxury of parts for these cars. Everything is imported. The 20k upgraded MACH1 is in Australian Dollars (14K US) There is 3 variants in this country GT Bullet and a handful of MACH only 700 will be brought to this country. They have landed and no more are coming. FYI, for us to import the added parts for a standard GT, it would probably cost well over double and then we will need have the parts installed. we need to consider the following. Lead-time, Delivery charge import tax/Duty and then the horrible exchange rate. Then we need to pay someone to install them! This is not the US and the rules/regulations are completely different here. So yes this is an exceptional car for what we get here & its approved by the local roads authority/state government to be allowed on our roads.
@NukeMyHouse
@NukeMyHouse 3 жыл бұрын
You had an extra 1000+ rpm left in the standard GT in the hotlap, and you were revving it out all the way in the Mach 1. Why though? The Coyote is very peaky, let her scream!
@nickp6472
@nickp6472 3 жыл бұрын
Agree. Also, I noticed he shifted early in the Mach 1 and then immediately downshifted a few times when he could have ran the lower gear out a bit more and skipped the extra up/downshift.
@digiam42
@digiam42 3 жыл бұрын
Torque wins on road courses. Peaky Horsepower is not going to produce good times
@RCXDerp
@RCXDerp 2 жыл бұрын
@@digiam42 There is more torque if you change up at a higher rpm
@houstontxstreets7139
@houstontxstreets7139 2 жыл бұрын
motor is not broken in yet stupit look and the km 🤦🏻‍♂️ 6k is red line for none broke in motor
@NukeMyHouse
@NukeMyHouse 2 жыл бұрын
@@houstontxstreets7139 2000km is more than enough . That's well broken in.
@gregorylouiscoleman
@gregorylouiscoleman 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't letting the GT rev all the way. The shift indicator was set to 6k, maybe a recommendation from the owner? But def caused the GT to be a little slower with premature shifts. Great review tho, fantastic to see these head to head. I have a 2021 GT performance pack with magneride, always curious to see if the Mach1 would be worth it.
@DizzyMan24
@DizzyMan24 3 жыл бұрын
The Tremec upgrade is worth the upgrade on its own. EDIT: These cars make peak power over 7000 rpm... rev them out.
@voodoodiecast
@voodoodiecast 2 жыл бұрын
He’s shortshifting so it won’t hurt those Audis laptimes🤣
@truckandroll989
@truckandroll989 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2021 Mach 1 here in the US and just completed my first track day. Actually my review is uploading to my KZbin channel as we speak! I also do not have the handling package (a $3500USD upgrade) but it would have been cool in this video to see the difference between the Mustang GT and Mach 1 with the handling package. I can say from first hand experience this car is a ton of fun on the track. I was surprised by how well the traction management system kept everything in line even in Track Mode.
@chisquare5701
@chisquare5701 2 жыл бұрын
His shift points are super (~1000 rpm) early in the GT. I guess that's why he did say he wishes the rpm range was brighter.
@07slowbalt
@07slowbalt 3 жыл бұрын
For 20k i dont see the benefit when you could put a decent set of coils on for under 3k, a supercharger for under 8k, and choose the 10r80. All of which would cost you less, still retain your warranty, and smoke that mach 1.
@coyotecornhole4263
@coyotecornhole4263 3 жыл бұрын
My stock 2020 10 speed gt would smoke that mach 1
@thedon9670
@thedon9670 Жыл бұрын
At least $16k for a supercharger mate. Closer to $20k
@07slowbalt
@07slowbalt Жыл бұрын
@@thedon9670 kits have gone up in price a bit but you can buy a nice whipple 3.0 KIT for just $9500 and theres cheaper options. If your an ASE certified mechanic you can do it yourself. If you have a dealer do it then yes you have to add on labor charges. It'll run you about 6-8k in labor
@MrAaronbatey
@MrAaronbatey 3 жыл бұрын
Man your shift points need some serious work in both cars.
@JeepCherokeeful
@JeepCherokeeful 3 жыл бұрын
He does seem to be shifting a little early
@ghaleon128
@ghaleon128 3 жыл бұрын
He has it set to 6k in the GT for his shift alerts. I'm not entirely sure why... Especially when he says it's "lazy" in the top end. Well yeah, when you're shifting 1400 RPMS below the redline, it's gonna feel lazy. :P
@coyotecornhole4263
@coyotecornhole4263 3 жыл бұрын
@@ghaleon128 i said the same thing. I have a 2020 10 speed gt and would smoke both cars. They redline at 7300 but hes got it set 1k lower for the gt lol. Shows how biased they are.
@RY5LV8
@RY5LV8 3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see the GT with MagneRide vs the Mach 1 as a comparison
@TushPoint0
@TushPoint0 3 жыл бұрын
Why, it would still lose. And the HP Mach would go even faster.
@RY5LV8
@RY5LV8 3 жыл бұрын
@@TushPoint0 What do you mean why? Obviously to see how much of a difference the MagneRide makes. And yes I know it would still lose but it would just be interesting to see how much it closes the gap.
@thullraven1
@thullraven1 3 жыл бұрын
@@TushPoint0 Not always true. They would be so much closer that it would depend on the drivers. The thing is that by the time you spend all that extra money adding stuff to the GT, you would be better off just getting the Mach 1.
@grahamw6443
@grahamw6443 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2020 Gt with Magnaride, handles amazingly. You can’t compare the GT and Mach 1 around the track with completely different suspensions between the two cars.
@98ws6m6cvert
@98ws6m6cvert 3 жыл бұрын
@@thullraven1 I have a PP! With Magneride and I think the one major area the Mach 1 tops the pp1 is cooling. The pp1 is lacking cooling for the transmission severely. The A10 heats up really quickly. Besides that this guy is short shifting lol.
@BaruKz
@BaruKz 3 жыл бұрын
Now imagine the MACH1 with the track package, will be right on top of the Mercedes.
@jasonlommen4769
@jasonlommen4769 3 жыл бұрын
Cool channel, new sub. Love the overhead view and dashboard on lap times. Great job. Plus I’m a huge mustang fan! I have a 12’ GT, think I’ll stick with it a while and save my $$!
@scottnewellguitar
@scottnewellguitar 3 жыл бұрын
Really curious about the details on the GT - was this a Performance Package GT? (with the strut tower brace, 6-pistons, 275/255 tires, K-Brace, etc?)
@VagrantZero84
@VagrantZero84 3 жыл бұрын
Based off the tires probably was a PP GT. I’ve got one as well and those are the exact wheels and tires it came with.
@jimjohnson8774
@jimjohnson8774 2 жыл бұрын
It didn't have the gauge pack in the center. Did have the michelin tires. Idk.
@JacobHall1601
@JacobHall1601 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid guys but Im curious Why the short shifting at just over 6,000 in the GT ??
@aimanfitri0iv
@aimanfitri0iv 3 жыл бұрын
this is a short track so that's why a shifting is very short
@RyRyMTD
@RyRyMTD 3 жыл бұрын
He mentioned that the GT felt as though it was falling on its face a little higher up in the rev range. I’m guessing it was happier short shifting and using more torque than revs.
@chrisatkinson7431
@chrisatkinson7431 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that, and interesting point. I was just shifting where it felt natural, surprised it was that low, but I don't think it was an advantage to rev it out much more.
@malsmith2012
@malsmith2012 3 жыл бұрын
I was going to ask the same question.. Sometimes I get a little suspicious in that they, Ford, wouldn't want the standard car showing up the supposedly track focused car that costs 20k more! Seems to leave a lot of rpm left on the table..
@thedon9670
@thedon9670 2 жыл бұрын
@@malsmith2012 there's probably some of that in it too.
@fidelis3123
@fidelis3123 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the excellent review. For the money, I’ll go with the GT. If money was no issue, the MAch1 for sure.
@fidelis3123
@fidelis3123 2 жыл бұрын
Update: I finally purchased my Mustang GT California Special with the active exhaust and I’m loving it.😊
@Amarpreet-Singh-Dhindsa
@Amarpreet-Singh-Dhindsa 2 жыл бұрын
@@fidelis3123 congrats🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
@2004lesk01
@2004lesk01 3 жыл бұрын
money well spent!! if you can get one!! great review and the MACH1 is worth every penny! i think its worth adding how rare it is to find one? having a limited car 1 of 700 is pretty cool.
@rammstevie
@rammstevie 3 жыл бұрын
Those tyres were purpose built by Mich for the FM/FN Mustang, good review thanks
@Khesrawsx
@Khesrawsx 3 жыл бұрын
As a Mustang enthusiast and driver for the past one decade, I would say that it isn’t worth to spend $20K on a Mach for such a small difference in speed. We could use the extra money on a supercharger and get almost double the horsepower. If the difference were like $2 or 3K I would gladly pay to get the Mach 1.
@2004lesk01
@2004lesk01 3 жыл бұрын
I hear this all the time, sorry man but you need to know what is cost and to compare.. suspension upgrades plus supecharger, recaro seat upgraded you will need to add about 40k and still its saids on the compliance GT Ford also not keen to warrant Super charger.. this is a limited edition to 700 only with MACH1 on compliance. trust me i have a mustang and i have done the exercise
@Khesrawsx
@Khesrawsx 3 жыл бұрын
​@@2004lesk01 You can go even higher than that, but do you really think that the extras on Mach 1 really are of the same quality that you would get with a 40K after market parts?? And fyi if you didn't know you can actually get the recaros with GT as well. If you are handy you can actually just buy the parts and install them yourself. I actually prefer doing most of the work myself.
@2004lesk01
@2004lesk01 3 жыл бұрын
@@Khesrawsx Yes i am aware of the seats its not the point, do you actually know whats in the MACH 1? Number 2 putting non genuine parts on is not approved in most countries. Also in Australia there is only 700 units. there is 25k+ of the GT the point here is, you will make your 20k back within 5years, anyone who knows cars can work that out. I could spend 100k on a mustang doesn’t mean its worth that! it’s still a GT. I have a 69 MACH 1, do you think it would be worth more than a Standard GT at the time? it’s really a no brainer.
@Khesrawsx
@Khesrawsx 3 жыл бұрын
@@2004lesk01 When did I recommend installing non genuine parts? I said after market and there is a big difference between the two. And yes if you do a quick search on Ford's website you will see that they state that they have added a revised intake manifold which is like $400-500, oil filter adapter $50-60, engine oil cooler $200-600, Stiffer sway bars, springs and bushings. If I calculate the whole thing it won't even cost more than $5K even with the exterior changes that they are saying causes more downforce and what not. I can buy every single one of these things from reputable companies and still save money. And what are you talking about making the money back in 5 years? And fyi I am not talking to you about the resale value of your car. I am here talking whether we are getting more bang for the buck if we get a 2021 Mach 1 compared to a 2021 and I don't think we are. Instead of we spend/invest the $20K on aftermarket parts and get them installed we will get the performance of Mach 1 or even better from a GT for a lot less.
@2004lesk01
@2004lesk01 3 жыл бұрын
​@@Khesrawsx
@julietaylor2685
@julietaylor2685 3 жыл бұрын
Feedback: Any chance of doing a lap in the Mustang GT 10 Spd auto? It’s the more common Mustang and Ford reckons is quicker around a track than manual. Be interesting to find out. Great video and thanks.
@glensubtorq
@glensubtorq 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting comparison, both cars would be desirable for me. Good to hear they surprised you with their performance considering they are big cars and cover a broad range of driving styles. Another great review 👍😎
@aimanfitri0iv
@aimanfitri0iv 3 жыл бұрын
because the mach 1 is quicker at 1.5 seconds faster than gt
@CarExpertAus
@CarExpertAus 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate!
@chrisatkinson7431
@chrisatkinson7431 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Glen!
@davothegreat9990
@davothegreat9990 3 жыл бұрын
@@aimanfitri0iv bet I could spend $20,000 on a gt and flog the mach 1 though. Now what..
@aimanfitri0iv
@aimanfitri0iv 3 жыл бұрын
@@davothegreat9990 i recommend the mach 1 because very good job in the track performance compared to the gt
@hpkntnw
@hpkntnw 2 жыл бұрын
2:00 did you really just call the top end on a coyote lazy? Then what in the world is a Chevy V8? Because a coyote gets frantic over 5,000 rpm.
@eddyfischer7712
@eddyfischer7712 3 жыл бұрын
As a GT owner - I would like to know how 'standard' was the GT . Was the diff ratio 3.15 or 3.55? Did it have Brembo brakes, 18' or 19' tyres with 255 and 275 Michelin tyres etc? Very impressed with the GT performance, unless you are into thrashing your car on a track I would stick with a GT with a performance pack one for the sake of 1 second difference!!
@TheSketch27
@TheSketch27 3 жыл бұрын
I didnt see the performance wing, or oil/vaccum gauges so I dont think that GT had the performance package. Woiuld also explain the gearing and the LSD concerns.
@thehastywombat
@thehastywombat 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheSketch27 its an Australian market car, so comes with the PP2 but with some differences to the US market cars, such as no gauges and only the 3.55 diff.
@f4r20
@f4r20 3 жыл бұрын
@@thehastywombat looks nothing like a pp2
@thehastywombat
@thehastywombat 3 жыл бұрын
@@f4r20 as I said it is an Australian delivered PP2. Which is probably more of a PP1.5, as we did miss out on a bunch of stuff. The later models probably more noticeable. I have a 2016 delivered GT and they were definitely marketed as PP2. Unfortunately by the time they actually arrived here they were missing a few things. The most noticeable being the torsen diff (we got the 3.55 standard rear instead) and no extra gauges.
@daebruh2034
@daebruh2034 3 жыл бұрын
@@thehastywombat it doesn’t even have the wing… I doubt it’s a PP
@AutoNorth
@AutoNorth 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2020 Mustang GT and the comment about the lack of top end power makes no sense. Peak HP comes at 7,000rpm and the power builds progressively to the peak. I see the reviewer is repeatedly shifting at 6k. Can’t complain about lack of top end….when you don’t rev to the top end.
@davidt3196
@davidt3196 3 жыл бұрын
I've been loving these comparison videos especially since Chris can actually drive and still give such great info during the test. I would really love to see how the ZL1 Camaro stacks up against some of the euros of even the R Spec Mustang. Thanks again for the great content.
@chrisatkinson7431
@chrisatkinson7431 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks David! Good idea as well....
@davidt3196
@davidt3196 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisatkinson7431 Thanks Chris. If you're ever filming in Melbourne and need a ZL1 to test I'd be happy to bring mine down or maybe you can convince Paul to let me bring it out to run his Supra, it's completely stock for now.
@anasevi9456
@anasevi9456 3 жыл бұрын
great video, thanks mate and honestly, going with the GT. comfort [with a bit of hard corner capability] and overtaking is what wins day to day.
@CarExpertAus
@CarExpertAus 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@chrisatkinson7431
@chrisatkinson7431 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that... And good decision, especially if you're not going to track it!
@JRosey777
@JRosey777 3 жыл бұрын
Great test👍 my son bought a GT, with mageride/Recaro. We’re not happy with the diff so we’re going with Trutrac soon. I guess this is a sore point for Mach1 buyers as it’s the diff it should of come with standard- bugger the Aussie fuel test that meant it got the GT LSD diff! Thanks
@CarExpertAus
@CarExpertAus 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@chrisatkinson7431
@chrisatkinson7431 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that, interesting point as well! A proper LSD, will really add to the car.
@davidtennien39
@davidtennien39 3 жыл бұрын
The US GT Performance Package gets the same diffy as the Mach.
@Pursuit_Of_Speed
@Pursuit_Of_Speed 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how it would fair against the gt350/R? In the fighter jet grey, 6 speed, and Mach 1 handling package is the spec I would get. Great review!
@aimanfitri0iv
@aimanfitri0iv 3 жыл бұрын
both are my favorite car for me i do love the mach 1 especially the colour jet fighter grey and orange for gt is my third favourite especially in ruby red and orange fury my second favorite car is the mach 1 my most favourite in this car going to last year's r-spec that one r-spec the most my favourite car
@martytheparty1976
@martytheparty1976 Жыл бұрын
brilliant review and driving
@DeadBen.
@DeadBen. 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. A true shame Australia doesn’t get the better LSD.
@2004lesk01
@2004lesk01 3 жыл бұрын
its no biggy you can buy the handling package from Mustang Motorsport.. and of course the upgraded diff!
@cenzofrisina6517
@cenzofrisina6517 Жыл бұрын
Nice vid! awesome driving! I would love to see some jdm stuff flying sound the track. Mitsubishi evolution 10 gsr or final edition in particular. Anyhow, thanks again, mate . thoroughly enjoyed it. will defiantly keep watching
@SteveC-Aus
@SteveC-Aus 3 жыл бұрын
@Carexpert can we please see Atko testing the current WRX on track, want to hear his thoughts vs the sti and see how close they are on track.
@chrisatkinson7431
@chrisatkinson7431 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Steve, good idea! It would be interesting to see standard WRX vs STI.
@SteveC-Aus
@SteveC-Aus 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisatkinson7431 we believe in you to make it happen mate! Even a WRX vs Golf GTI on track would be cool to see!
@duffyt26
@duffyt26 3 жыл бұрын
So why did you set the shiftlight at 1000RPM too low on the GT? Bad fuel for the day making the engine not fire properly at peak power RPM? Same engine as Mach 1, literally. Differs in intake which is indifferable in terms of peak power point (Yes it might grant 5-10 hp but the peak is at the same RPM, 7200.) Hard to compare two cars with the same engine when you've crippled one of the engines by shortshifting every gear, every time. :/
@wasdwasdwwasd
@wasdwasdwwasd 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, the comments at the end remind me of what Tiff said about the standard M3 vs the CSL. The Mach 1 seems to get very close to Euro performance for less money plus that lovely V8.
@aimanfitri0iv
@aimanfitri0iv 3 жыл бұрын
and also quicker at 1.5 seconds faster than gt
@wasdwasdwwasd
@wasdwasdwwasd 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@CarExpertAus
@CarExpertAus 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@chrisatkinson7431
@chrisatkinson7431 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Randy! They both offer great value for the level of performance.
@aimanfitri0iv
@aimanfitri0iv 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisatkinson7431 and time lap in the track the mach 1 is 1.5 seconds quicker than gt but not as quick as r-spec version
@meetdeaths
@meetdeaths 3 жыл бұрын
Should compare performance and handling of the Mach 1 with Australia's own RSPEC. That would be worth watching
@DADZGARAGE
@DADZGARAGE 3 жыл бұрын
Great review, thanks 😊
@chrisatkinson7431
@chrisatkinson7431 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@marlafoxratzer9792
@marlafoxratzer9792 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the review very much. And I really love my 2017 GT California Special convertible. Plenty of horsepower and handling for me.
@hespie1
@hespie1 3 жыл бұрын
Great review Chris, cheers.
@mezbiderli
@mezbiderli 10 ай бұрын
Best comparison ever on these 2 cars. I had the Mach 1, totaled it got a GT, still missing the Mach 1 :D
@johnliarris3972
@johnliarris3972 2 жыл бұрын
The GT should have been optioned with Magneride suspension the lap times would have been alot closer.
@natethegreatog
@natethegreatog 3 жыл бұрын
Was awesome to see the ponies from another angle, or right hand drive is what I mean!
@mattbuckley392
@mattbuckley392 2 жыл бұрын
Super stoked watching this. I am looking to get into a GT .... all black .... and this was just intoxicating. The Mach 1 looks epic but the GT certainly holds it's own and let's be honest the Mustang just looks incredible.
@gojo5265
@gojo5265 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Paul, could you do a review on the delayed Audi A3 with some comparison on hatch vs sedan please
@remiandrepedersen868
@remiandrepedersen868 3 жыл бұрын
It is probably possible to get more power on the engine of Mach 1 as well, so then it will manage 1 second faster around this track for half the price of that Mercis. But of course a bit of the extra price is due to the fact that there is a slightly more luxurious interior in the Mercis, But I do not think it's worth paying double the price for that reason.
@mrnicktoyou
@mrnicktoyou 3 жыл бұрын
Why didn’t you rev the GT above 6000rpm? Does it run out of breath above that?
@Gltokensp06
@Gltokensp06 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure. The coyote motor is known for feeling like a turbo because it makes most of it's power up high. The us spec GTs rev to 7200 rpm.
@toreyeads5646
@toreyeads5646 3 жыл бұрын
I saw that to. He had the rev counter on the get set at 6k and the Mach 1 at 7.1k. He was short shifting the hell out of the GT. Really believe that a GT PP1 revved out to redline would have matched the Mach1 in this track test.
@KB-bh9hp
@KB-bh9hp 3 жыл бұрын
The s650 is going to be excellent when you consider that they're improving on this platform. Can't wait.
@al151
@al151 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a problem. S550 was not a good platform to begin with. They need to switch platforms not improve. The handling is still lacking bad and off the line acceleration.
@KB-bh9hp
@KB-bh9hp 2 жыл бұрын
@@al151 Bro, the s550 platform is excellent, what are you talking about? It's a little heavy, but it's solid. I mean, the gt350r is setting faster lap times around Laguna Seca than a 458 Italia. Seems like the platform is pretty good to me.
@ericstrohl6988
@ericstrohl6988 3 жыл бұрын
20k more to run 1.51 faster I'm good 20k I can do full suspension and diff upgrades and put better tires on. But over all great review
@JustMikeBro
@JustMikeBro 3 жыл бұрын
I’d buy the gt for daily driving and going to the track on the weekends
@lordcaptain73
@lordcaptain73 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know how little Chris is, but I think normal sized people like Scott Collie and myself would find the Recaro’s the right size 😂. Awesome video as always
@50_sally
@50_sally 3 жыл бұрын
Ur one hell of a driver mate great job 👏🏽
@nycmaverick
@nycmaverick 3 жыл бұрын
For $20k I would upgrade the shocks and put a supercharger and internals on the GT and hope it doesn't tear that Coyote in half.
@rcrbrewster7840
@rcrbrewster7840 11 ай бұрын
Did the GT have the BREMBO's or just the regular brakes? Thanks
@joemomma707
@joemomma707 3 жыл бұрын
Subbed and liked!!! Watching this shit on my iPhone 13 pro max 1TB while my main driving me to get in n out in the Raptor baby. Life is good. Thank you for having 4k available. Looks sick on this 13.
@88pc2701
@88pc2701 Жыл бұрын
you had more petrol in the GT where there was about 200 ks different which could account for more weight, which might make a significant difference in the 1 second time.
@Chuck88vert
@Chuck88vert 3 жыл бұрын
Great video
@stephenwarren55
@stephenwarren55 2 жыл бұрын
It's too bad that you people over there, don't get the special Mach 1 handling package with the bigger wheels and tires and other goodies. I hear that they help a lot on lap times. I enjoyed the video and your part in it.
@eyecontrol4900
@eyecontrol4900 Жыл бұрын
yea it sucks, there was only 700 Mach1's available to the Aus car market. These things are like collectors items now
@huddy32
@huddy32 3 жыл бұрын
Seem like this guy has been in the drivers seat before.. this is so much better than the little spoiled 17 year old’s opinion. A true racing review.
@richardplumley2021
@richardplumley2021 2 жыл бұрын
Shifted the GT too early!! Had it set at 6K yet on the Mach 1 you had the shift light set at 7200.
@eyecontrol4900
@eyecontrol4900 Жыл бұрын
GT suffers gear lockout high up the rev range, due to the fragile mt82 transmission which is as strong as wet paper. The tremec is far superior.
@mattjones1378
@mattjones1378 3 жыл бұрын
With Steeda suspension upgrades on my 2019 pp1 GT, i should be tied with a stock Mach 1
@AvtoMusic997
@AvtoMusic997 Жыл бұрын
wow supercar 😍😍😍my favorite car good luck with your work
@dougcoleburn1579
@dougcoleburn1579 2 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up to Ford for still pushing performance in the Pony car market!
@kitvexed8229
@kitvexed8229 2 жыл бұрын
almost 2 sec FASTER on an extremely SHORT track?! that's HUGE. truely the last good mustang. im def getting one..
@mrsteve7175
@mrsteve7175 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison. It would be interesting to try it with Magneride on a GT though just to see how that would close the gap, Either way on the road it would be near impossible to separate them anyway, so unless you intend to go on a track it's not worth paying the extra unless you really want the more garish looks of the Mach 1. Just get a GT and add Magneride.
@pigeonpoo1823
@pigeonpoo1823 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and twin test idea. I'd like to see something like a 'half price heroes' and have, for example, Mustang v gr86 (when it arrives). Or Tesla model 3 v Nissan Leaf - for massive lols
@chrisatkinson7431
@chrisatkinson7431 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that and also for the ideas...
@bradalexander6252
@bradalexander6252 3 жыл бұрын
Good Video
@rayni7104
@rayni7104 2 жыл бұрын
I want to change the suspensions for my 5.0 but dont know what to choose. It feels like it have a heavy tail and the rear suspension is too soft
@jackgibb16
@jackgibb16 Жыл бұрын
can i just point out Chris that you had the shift point set to 6k in the GT but 7k in the Mach 1.. this might explain the difference in the top end rpm you was explaining. also on your onboard lap you didnt ever once rev the GT past 6,4k rpm it doesnt make peak power until 7k
@mixalis6168
@mixalis6168 3 жыл бұрын
Mach 1 please !!
@maverickdorgan2843
@maverickdorgan2843 Жыл бұрын
I just bought a mach 1 with the handling package!
@MogulFarmer
@MogulFarmer 3 жыл бұрын
The Mach 1 is an amazing value
@Malc664
@Malc664 3 жыл бұрын
And some of that 20k goes to the looks as well, which is better. Is there an on road review because most people would drive it on road?
@jnagime
@jnagime 3 жыл бұрын
*Here in the Us the Mach1 start at $58k us and a nice GT is $47k now with COVID bs the Mach1 is $72k that’s a lots money for a Mustang,no go*
@Japplesnap
@Japplesnap 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone can buy a Mach 1 for 2% under invoice, which is far below sticker price.
@hpkntnw
@hpkntnw 2 жыл бұрын
4:04 Australia didn’t get the upgraded Torsen differential!! 😂
@lanewarriorillridez3739
@lanewarriorillridez3739 Жыл бұрын
Ok everyone all you have to do is go out and find a 2018-2020 Mustang GT with the Performance Package 1 or 2 and they still had the 460 HP 5.0 V8 and 420lb-ft of torque before Ford detuned the GT engine around 2021 to market the Mach 1 as the better car for $20,000 more.
@hendersonjohnson3750
@hendersonjohnson3750 2 жыл бұрын
Your GT did not have the performance pack 1 or 2 and no magna plane suspension. Also I’d like the track test with the automatic.
@MsMischievous2022
@MsMischievous2022 2 жыл бұрын
Your also missing the handling package on the Mach 1 and your also driving the European version granted it’s the same version on both cars. I really enjoyed the video !
@CanadianMax
@CanadianMax 3 жыл бұрын
You really did the car a disservice by short-shifting. Unless there is a fundamental difference in the map the AUS spec car is running compared to the US Spec car, you should be winding it all the way to the redline. I've owned an '18 and '20 (US Spec) and can 100% confirm, these cars want to rev.
@scuba6797
@scuba6797 Жыл бұрын
Id love to see a test with the performance package and one without.
@annuann1
@annuann1 2 жыл бұрын
where you get the price from. thanks
@MCoupeMike
@MCoupeMike 3 жыл бұрын
WTF? Why are you shifting so early on the GT? You have the shift lights configured 1000 RPM lower than you did in the Mach 1?
@eyecontrol4900
@eyecontrol4900 2 жыл бұрын
the gt has the Mt82, which has had known lockout problems, when shifting too high on the revs.
@jarrodfrankum
@jarrodfrankum 2 жыл бұрын
I want to see this test done with a handling pack mach 1. I dont believe the handling pack is an option for export cars. Such a big difference
@KINGKJ2REAL
@KINGKJ2REAL 3 жыл бұрын
Its the same exact engjne .. Just different intake manifolds and cold air intake
@caseymurray7722
@caseymurray7722 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly there's only a $7000 difference between the two. A mustang gt with the performance pack, active exhaust and magneride (which all come standard on the mach 1) is $48000 where the mach 1 is $55000. The track times proves its better but is the shifter, badging, and other small upgrades worth the 7k?
@jamesthomas4919
@jamesthomas4919 2 жыл бұрын
Soon as you said the GT did not have Magna ride, you botched the test for me. Most of that track difference was just the magna drive. No way you can feel any engine gains and same to Trans. Mach 1 is a cash grab...thanks you tried to sale it..
@terrynquy
@terrynquy 3 жыл бұрын
U should do Mustang Mach 1 vs Mustang R Spec cuz i wanna see which one is better
@JerryCecco
@JerryCecco 3 жыл бұрын
WOW NEW Mustang laptimes....normally Ford says laptimes cant be published
@ajah3247
@ajah3247 3 жыл бұрын
Why didn’t you take a mustang GT premium performance with magnetic suspension. I have it’s awesome and pretty nice to x pipe it and tune
@sandrovarrocci360
@sandrovarrocci360 3 жыл бұрын
you were short shifting the whole time , why ?
@thullraven1
@thullraven1 3 жыл бұрын
If you are having track days and can afford it, get the Mach 1. If you mostly use your ride as a daily driver, save your money and get the GT. The price difference is too much to justify on just a daily driver. I have a slightly modded GT as my daily driver. For my track days, I use a Ferrari 488.
@Japplesnap
@Japplesnap 3 жыл бұрын
Get has automatic rev matching? Since when?
@robertct06
@robertct06 Жыл бұрын
If you have rev matching on don’t rev match yourself. I noticed every time I did that I would miss gears. Something about you rev matching throws off something in the electronics and transmission synchronization
@thedon9670
@thedon9670 Жыл бұрын
thanks for telling the world you are a crap driver lol
@robertct06
@robertct06 Жыл бұрын
@@thedon9670 no. I meant turn off rev matching. I should’ve just said that lol. When you have rev match on and you try to rev match yourself it doesn’t like that
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