Ford Mustang Mach-E vs. Tesla Model Y - Buying Comparison

[@AaronMcFarland]

My buddy who owns a Model 3 and he test drove a Ford Lightning and the vehicle drove well but he felt the software was clunky and not even close to a Tesla experience. So if you come from a Tesla, everything seems like a downgrade, at least from my buddy's experience.

[@allenbaylus3378]

if you judge a car only on the GUI then Tesla will beat all traditional car makers. The charging curve and comfort of driving is critical. I think that Tesla has their competition beat right now on these but the lack of Car Play/Android Auto is a big minus to most

[@keystoevolve]

I can attest to this. the mach e does not even have the handling that the Teslas have..

[@honesty_-no9he]

LIGHTNING has superb handling and it is a far larger vehicle and Blue Cruise is excellent.

[@jacobdurant9127]

Software is literally the only thing Tesla beats the Mach-E on, so “everything” is quite a stretch considering the Mach-E looks better and is built better.

[@AaronMcFarland]

@@jacobdurant9127 hmmm, are you saying my friend is wrong with his opinion? Were you with him on his test drive, and why do you say the Ford looks better and is built better? Looks are completely subjective, and I have not bought a new car that didn't have initial issues. Everything you said is completely opinion, and the biggest reason Tesla sells every Tesla they sell is pretty much software. Kind of like an iPhone, it isn't the hardware that brings you there, it is the software.

[@Tonar18]

I have a MME and my brother has a Y. Both great cars. If your going to be road tripping quite a bit it’s a no contest choice for the Y. If exterior and interior styling is your thing MME is your choice. If $$$ is a factor, again the Y wins. When I bought my MME it was $15k cheaper than a Y, but today that has flipped. I really like my MME and don’t regret buying it, but if I were in the market today the better tech at a lower price would get my vote and I’d buy the Y. But I wouldn’t run away from the MME if you like it and got a good deal. Ford has lowered the pricing to get it closer. Great review guys! Can’t really argue any points discussed.

[@BC27-n3e]

Just leased a '23 MME Prem Std, $0 down/$550mo with $1200 drive off or about $20k for 36mo at 7500mi/yr

[@ladonnalewis4296]

I enjoyed this one. Alyssa is a great presenter, I wish she would do more.

[@thomasruwart1722]

The Model Y Performance is only $4000 more than the Model Y Long Range

[@thomasruwart1722]

The difference in range between the MYLR and the MYP is about 30 miles or 10% (330 miles vs 303 milesl

[@JohnPMiller]

She really should start her own channel.

[@chrisak49]

@@thomasruwart1722 Real world in my household the performance is getting 275-280mi and long range is getting 290-300mi. This is highway 70mph driving.

[@thomasruwart1722]

@@chrisak49 Ditto. I see about the same. Incidentally, if you get the Tessie app, it will download all the driving and charging data into a spreadsheet [from the time you install the app]. I installed it the day we got the MYP and it is very interesting data.

[@dougb3647]

Alyssa in front of the camera is well presented, no under the breath filler words, like, um, and, er. No overused jargon. Let me say this was. . . Epic!

[@Donnie-fe7dc]

Alyssa on the hood of each car would be epic!

[@dowhill1956]

Kyle is that way too.

[@dowhill1956]

@@Donnie-fe7dc Sorry I was replying to Dougb not your comment.

[@DavidAMcC]

A good comparison. I looked at both but when I checked the insurance cost for both cars the Tesla premium was almost twice that of the Mach-E. It’s a cost that needs to be considered.

[@curthylton6279]

Great point! Thanks for your comment.

[@thomaswburkhart]

added this comment before seeing this - exactly what i found. model y’s have insane insurance cost, heavy deterrent from the brand when the ford has a normal insurance rate

[@officialyasir]

Everyone seems to forget the extra little storage in the Model Y, not the big one but the small one right behind back seats. The floor cover lifts up there too.

[@rog351]

This is a very good HONEST sounding review of the vehicles. That is what is appreciated that you address the strong points and also point out the disadvantages of each car. So great to know what auto you would select as well. Thanks so much.

[@anthonyc8499]

Great video comparison! Couple of points on the Mach-E's charging. It's 115kW max for the Standard Range and 150kW max on the Extended Range. Secondly, Ford does a quirky thing where the charging profile is time-based and the state of charge isn't a big deal. This means it charges the same starting from 10% as it does from 40% so there's no benefit in charging speed to going deep into the pack like on a Tesla.

[@davidluchenbill3671]

Good review. Don't forget almost everything on the Tesla screen can be controlled by voice commands so you don't really need to hunt on the screen to find things.. I use that feature all the time it is so much easier then fussing with a dial or button. In my opinion, and I'm in my 70's.

[@thomasruwart1722]

On the Model Y, be very careful when putting the rear seats down because if the forward seat is too far back then the headrest on the back seat will hit the back of the forward seat just like it did in this video. The back of the driver's seat in my car had to be replaced because the mounting clips broke after being hit several times by the rear seat.

[@vg4902]

What annoys me about Tesla is the constant removal of safety and convenience features to cut costs from the 3/Y. They took away the Radar, Ultrasonic Sensors, and Rain Sensor, all replaced with the camera system that is unreliable.... It can't even read proper parking distance anymore, and cruise control is a mess with Phantom Braking and the need for the wipers to turn on when it's perfectly nice outside. Now soon the Temperature Sensor and Stalks will be going away as well. I get you have to cut costs, but don't take away features that work well. Really for me, the only thing that Tesla has over the competition now is JUST the supercharger network.

[@MachE_VLOG]

Great job and great video Alyssa and Max! You guys are fun to watch! As Mach-E nerds, we have a couple little corrections, like the Mach-E GT PE does 0-60 in 3.5 not 3.8 seconds; the Mach-E actually peaks at 165 kW and the charging curve has been updated so it is quicker to 80% AND after to 100%. We're obviously really familiar with our Mach-E and have some preferences for it over most others: we like the ride quality more, charging has been improved with updates, the integration with CarPlay and Android Auto is essential for us, and better looks. Hard to go wrong with either though!

[@berthogendoorn2133]

I have received a 2023 Model Y AWD Long Range and not one issue with panel gaps, trim issues noda, wow I was more impressed with the Y than my 2023 Ioniq 5 which the DC fast charger did not work for over 7 months! On my delivery date they had the Tesla in Dog Mode so we could see the car in comfort in advance of our scheduled delivery (it was 85Deg.F. sunny day), the car was super clean, the 2023 Ionic 5 had smudgy film on the glass and not as clean as my Tesla, koodo's to Tesla Vancouver for such an excellent delivery experience and Koodo to Fremont for such a great fit and finish car! So the days of poor build quality on Tesla Model Y are in the past!

[@guccisasha]

I just test drove a Mach E GT at the dealer yesterday, and I liked it, but I prefer my MYLR. Love the simplistic design, the software, and how easy it is to drive. I do not want to go back to so many buttons in the car. Nice video guys, Ty 👍.

[@nocombed]

I have just taken a long trip in my Mach-E. Had no issues with charging at EA with 30+ charging stops. Speed of charge was not an issue because of bathroom or eating breaks. We love this car and would buy it again. The one negative comment is that the Ford navigation system is not nearly as good as Apple Maps in giving directions as you’re driving. Ford will sometimes tell you to turn after you passed that turn. It does not help you anticipate the next turn ( eg, it doesn’t say turn right off the freeway then get in the left lane to turn left) and the map screen is essentially blank - a white background with a blue line. It gives you no idea of where you are relative to any place on the road. It doesn’t even name the location of your next charge stop; you have to click three times to find that.

[@tpk35]

Great comparison review. Since we already have a Model Y, my wife and I are looking to add a second EV to our stable but we would like to get something different instead of having two of the same vehicle. The only thing is Max mentions that one of the advantages to the Mach-E besides the looks and color choices is that it offers a GT performance option. In case he doesn't know the Model Y is also offered in the performance model that is a close match for the Mach-E GT performance-wise. I believe it has upgraded suspension, larger wheels and tires and significantly quicker acceleration similar to The Mach-E GT. My wife does like the looks of the Ford and the fact that they will be able to charge on the supercharger network is probably going to swing us in that direction. Thanks again for the review.

[@myya8370]

Also, Mach E high-voltage battery replacement is about 40-50k. Tesla is usually around 10-15 k. Something not a lot of people talk about. Matters if you're planning to keep the car a while, or drive it 50k miles per year. But I guess most people don't drive that much, so it won't usually matter. I guess I just got my answer on why most people don't mention this 😅

[@PhilFilum]

Alyssa continues to improve her presentations. While I would probably go with a Tesla rather than a Ford, the behind the steering wheel display is a big issue for me because I have limited vision in my right eye.

[@Donnie-fe7dc]

The tighter her shorts are the better the presentation!

[@seanandre5212]

The Mach-E has three driving modes. Which one did you use? These modes include Whisper, which offers a slow and smooth ride, Normal, and Sport. It's possible that you were using the Whisper mode. The handling of the steering wheel also varies between these modes. Furthermore, you can increase cargo space in the Mach-E by lowering the trunk floor.

[@KaiPonte]

Thank you for the in-depth review. I chose a Mach-e last year (almost 20,000 miles ago) and am happy. I absolutely HATED the ride quality of the Model Y. I may yet get one for my beautiful young bride as a replacement for her 2017 VW Golf when she needs it as I've heard the ride quality has improved.

[@LenSklogW]

I bought a Mach E over a Tesla for familiarity and the cursed dealer network being on the fringes of the continent. I resisted an EV but when I discovered the Mach E Premium AWD was equivalent to a Y, I was in full shopping mode. 40 years of dealer heartburn but also not naive to supplier BS, I got what I wanted. Now waiting for my NACS to CCS1 adapter 😊

[@jamesdaniel947]

The much more relevant comparison with the Y, is the Mustang Mach e GT Performance, which after being it in it, the Y is like sitting in a white room with no furniture in it. The Tesla doesn’t even offer anything like the Magnaride suspension. As far as the charging goes, the Ford’s designers weighted to extend the life of the battery, which is a major expenditure, and I certainly consider it far more important than a few extra minutes at a charging station!

[@Mathingon]

Would love to see Kyle and Alyssa road trip a new Mach-e premium AWD to get an idea of how it performs after all the new software enhancements

[@treborheminway3814]

What a great testing duo. Great back and forth, with unique input and detail. Both very knowledgeable and well spoken. I've seen many reviews of these cars and this one was one of the best. You can tell they really know EVs and admit when they could be wrong when unsure.

[@scott331]

Alyssa is highly intelligent! She mentioned that she went to Norway 🇳🇴, I’m assuming she has Norwegian heritage, which the ladies are naturally feminine and nice attitudes

[@EclecticElectric.bsky.social]

Great video! Thanks for not making it an obnoxiously long review. This was thorough, honest, and yet totally digestible. More from you guys please!

[@Dactylonian]

I drove the MachE Route 1 and really liked it. I walked away and will never (maybe never?) go back to Ford, because of the sales manager and sales person. The sales person knew next to nothing about the vehicle. The sales manager blocked us on the way out the showroom door and asked “What can I do to have you drive home in this tonight?” Really? So slimy. We wound up buying an i4 eDrive40.

[@caraziegel7652]

i really want a kona ev but the guy at the hyundai dealership was annoying the crap out of me the whole time and would NOT stop emailing me

[@iMaxPatten]

@@caraziegel7652 My girlfriend had a similarly poor experience at a Hyundai dealer with a Kona EV

[@econerd]

You’re at the wrong dealer. Mine was a skater dude that did a lot of high 5s

[@nocombed]

My experience with my Ford dealer and sales rep was exceptional.

[@BruceDowns]

I would like to see a repair cost and maintenance cost comparison.

[@Bzzap83]

Really nice (and fun) real world intro & comparison of these cars for new EV buyers. Like the comparison between the mapping approaches! Good to underscore that for many users of these cars if you drive mostly locally and can charge at home the high speed chargers will only be an occasional issue.

[@TheCostofAutism]

The model Y starts at $48,000 but you do get a $7,500 tax credit, the MachE starts at 43000 but only gets a 3250 tax credit... So technically the price difference is less than $1,000... Problem is that the dealer usually adds anywhere from 2 to 3% in fees so you will almost always pay more with the MachE

[@nocombed]

We paid zero mark-up a year ago when they were in short supply.

[@TheCostofAutism]

@@nocombed I have not ever seen a dealer that does not also add about $1,000 in dealer fees. So even when they tell you that you are paying Sticker, you're not. If I buy a Tesla on the website all I am paying is for the car, taxes, tag, and maybe a delivery fee. ... At a dealer you're going to pay all of that PLUS a "Dealer Fee" possibly a Service fee and usually a hidden financing fee. Additionally the try to overcharge you for things like floor mats, extra coatings, GAP insurance and all kinds of other things. Bottom line is if you walk into a dealer and by a car that is exactly the same price as a Tesla, 99% of the time, with everything being equal you will end up with a higher payment.

[@smartelectriccar]

Clear opinions and facts. Good review!

[@ScottFriedman-f9o]

Hi. Great video. I originally had ordered an extended range Mach e Premium. But when Tesla kept dropping their prices, I cancelled it and ordered a Model Y (base from Austin). The Mach e is just not worth the extra 12-13K over the Model Y. I just couldn’t justify spending the extra money. So happy I made the switch. Love my model Y.

[@jakemeltzer9390]

Love having Alyssa give 'regular' driver reviews a great partner for the nerdier details' Max gives..

[@stevedowler2366]

About CarPlay or Android Auto, it seems most users of those are either selecting music or using a mapping system they like better than Tesla's. I like the Tesla navigation system for the bigger screen, charger locations and voice command. I can navigate using voice to the nearest Ikea or Aqui restaurant or to a National Park and other places. I don't have to know the exact address. My partner doesn't like it (but then she doesn't even want to drive the car) so she uses Google maps and double checks my route. And in busy traffic, her choice is often better being based on experience with the SF Bay Area alternate routes. I usually just let the car take me however it wants and then override it when I see an alternate that might avoid a slow-down on the freeway. Sometimes the Nav system tries to take me back onto its original route after I deviate instead of realizing I'm going to go my way. That gets frustrating and I have to hit END TRIP and then re-enter the destination. I'm definitely the minimalist and really like having no knobs and buttons. The only function I use while driving is climate control which I would like to see some improvements but still no buttons.

[@JAYFRESCO410]

I like the mach e alot. Have driven a Model 3 a few times (never drove a Model Y) and test drove a mach e extended range premium last week. The problem with the mach e is the price (more expensive than model y) and it only gets half the tax credit

[@alanbuck9237]

Nice review. You make a good point about Tesla wheels. They seriously need to redesign them, so they are not so easily scratched on curbs! They also need to work on ride quality and noise levels. I currently have an ioniq5 and I feel it’s considerably superior to Tesla in these areas. I just wish I could use the Tesla charging network!

[@viplav76]

Also a point is, the current crop of customers, have many who are kind of 'petrol heads'.. no offence intended. Basically users who think like an ICE car, but are looking at going electric. This is perception aspect. In my opinion, Tesla is obviously more future ready, and its a matter of time, that people won't see the need to compare, much like nobody compares an iPhone to say a Nokia Or a BlackBerry, any more.. Till then this is extremely useful content. Congrats to both Mark & Alyssa for all their wonderful efforts. Cheers guy. Let the best come the way of this fabulous Out Of Spec Team 👍🏼

[@g35crazy]

No CarPlay is a dealbreaker for me. I’d pick the ford

[@craigmcdermott2921]

Alyssa makes great points. Appreciate her perspective.

[@Harrythehun]

MY, you forgot the small storage under the lid between backrest and trunk lid. I put my charging cables and other smaller car stuff there.

[@davidlugner1045]

they forgot a lot, example Tesla Model Y the steering wheel can be adjusted a LOT the Mach-E not sure. Also Tesla has AutoPilot, Enhanced Auto-Pilot, FSD, and FSD Beta. Mach-E only has AutoPilot big time limitations. I would of rushed to a Mach-E if the car was equally matched as I am a long time Mustang owner. However Tesla is leaps ahead.

[@jntx9575]

We bought our Mach-E on line. We did get a call from the delivery dealer to get some information they needed. The only time we needed to go to the dealer was to pick up the car.

[@chicomtl]

Great work guys. Both of you shared good practical points. vocal commands on the Tesla work great for me. Great presentation overall. Keep it up

[@jimmurphy5355]

I get just about the rated 330 miles on my long range dual motor Model Y - at 65 MPH, level ground, temps at 65F or above. About 310 miles at 70 MPH.

[@marlonchristmas]

I appreciated this honest review. I've decided for the time being not to buy either. I test drove the Y and it had a horrible ride, poor suspension. The Mustang is a very tempting alternative but I can hold off for a few years as things develop.

[@MrRaitzi]

Low end EV seem to be best from Kia an Hyundai. Better suspension and much lower road noise compared to Tesla. Tesla is like 4 wheels, battery motor and IPad. All the rest is secondary.

[@mikeroll8515]

Yep, my wife and I are waiting for 2025 and Mach-E's with native NACS.

[@Samosayummyyay]

Model 3 all the way ;)

[@williamscoggin1509]

I for one, wish you would have covered a little more on over-the-air updates and over-the-air fixes, as far as Ford compared to Tesla. Also what does the Ford screen show as far as the number of chargers available and number of working chargers or speed of charging in route planning. Such as the Tesla app even taking into considering time of day and how busy a charging station is for that certain area so that you might want to charge before that charger or after. Instead of getting there and it either being full of cars or half the chargers not functioning. Other than that , a pretty well-thought-out review video. 👍🏻

[@iMaxPatten]

Ford has been progressively better about OTA updates after a very slow start from everything I've followed - but I'm not an owner of the vehicle so can't say for sure. Charger business/congestion is going to require better data and installations from 3rd party CPOs - I don't think anyone but Tesla can really go to that level of detail in the nav yet.

[@bbqturtle]

A few things you don't mention is that dealers are marking up the Mach-E 5-10k on the lot. AND, Mach-E only get's half the federal tax rebate.

[@evlover04]

I bought the mach-e gt last year and love it. It has Alexa if I want to ask questions or demands.

[@kpsher367]

I drive Tesla Model Y but I've been thinking of buying another EV and M Mach-E did cross my mind so prefect timing for this video to show up on m y feed. Its like " they're not only watching you now but they also know what you thinking about".

[@jareddalessandro9813]

Idk if I'd say "tried and true Mach E" given its a first gen attempt at an EV, my friends got theirs bought back via Lemon Law afterall. At this point I don't know if the old manufactures have a for-sure build quality advantage yet.

[@chrisak49]

My god Alyssa is a great presenter. We just never knew it before because Kyle always cuts her off lmao

[@spydey2k]

You made me spit my drink

[@brg2290]

Given the heat when this was filmed, is there an effective low cost strategy to mitigate heat gain in the cabin through those large glass roof panels?

[@iMaxPatten]

There are shade accessories for both you can buy aftermarket

[@brg2290]

Recommendations? Or perhaps a topic for upcoming Out of Spec review?

[@Tokamak3.1415]

IR tint. It's expensive for a good brand but partially pays for itself in reduced electricity costs and definitely pays for itself in reduced time waiting for charge on roadtrips.

[@theshamrocker]

What are your sunglasses?

[@josephrowey6059]

I don’t think they mentioned the mileage to expect from each. That is what’s keeping me from buying one. Nice presentation. Thanks Joe

[@stephensellers9033]

I think people like what they know. If you normally drive a Tesla, then the weird quirks in a Tesla don’t bother you.

[@thomasruwart1722]

From a safety perspective, the MachE failed the Moose Test - the rear end of the MachE tends to break loose at relatively low speeds

[@iMaxPatten]

I haven't heard of this but I can believe it given its very-skinny tires!

[@thomasruwart1722]

@@iMaxPatten : do a YT search for "MachE Moose Test" - it is a real thing!

[@thomasruwart1722]

@@iMaxPatten "...its very skinny tires..." You mean the Moose had very skinny tires? I doubt it was the Moose because they all drive pickup trucks: Ram pickup trucks to be precise... that's my 2 scents 💩💩😁

[@davidlugner1045]

I learned today "Moose Test" thank you

[@JasonB72481]

When it comes to "Get in and Go", there's no competition. The Model Y, once your phone is paired to it, you literally just hop in and go. There is no start button to worry about. And when you are done your trip, you just get out and leave the car. It will auto lock. The Mach E still behaves like a traditional ICE car. It even has a start/stop button. It is definitely not the literally get in and go experience like the Tesla's.

[@Longsnowsm]

I like the look of the Mach-e over the Y. But Ford needs to refresh this car to address things that have significantly changed since the debut of that car. Ford needs to learn to roll out changes and not just let it get behind. Ford isn't as efficient at the Y. On visual appeal I prefer the Mach-e. But technically the Y is still ahead. I just don't dig the look of the Y and find the Tesla's pretty boring. They win on charging and integrated nav. In a few years with chargers everywhere hopefully none of that will really matter. Ford needs to start rolling out it's second gen EV's. They hopefully have learned a thing or two about packaging, efficiency, and keeping the vehicles current.

[@maxblazer593]

I think also the should put the screen horizontal..

[@SuperBotcreator]

Gear stalks are super common I thought? I'd rather storage/open space over a gear selector as a center console.

[@spickett10]

Would love to see an updated buying guide for Ioniq 5 SEL vs Model Y 👍🏻

[@billnipp2309]

You said the model Y was a rental. Does Hertz rent Y's now too? ty

[@viplav76]

Thank you for the lovely presentation. Couldn’t be a better practical explanation.. especially the role of the camera for dog owners, and other practical use points. Love this channel. Especially for the new users, this early in electric vehicles

[@MountainManGuy]

The Mach E is a great car, but personally I went with the Y. Tesla's software is just so good, and the smoothness of the Ryzen based system is unmatched. Either way, you can't go wrong with either car

[@Bygkydcmc]

At this point I can't see buying an EV without the NACS port

[@shou635]

As far as range calculation, Tesla doesn’t do “it’s own thing”. EPA allows for two different methods for coming up with range. Engineering explained tells the difference. Ford could calculate the range the same way.

[@manuelolivera5771]

How about adjusting the mirrors, using the wipers you two seem pretty biased from the beginning

[@dotsmada2855]

Opening Tesla door: with left hand, push with thumb grab with other fingers of left hand. No need to use both hands. Kind of like the mach e where you push button and pull the lip.

[@FsnGoldandSilver]

How often is Ford doing over the air updates? According to Jim Farley, they have 93 different companies writing software for the Mach E unlike Tesla that controls all their software.

[@randyXLT]

My Mach e will charge maximum 150 kwh. I think you might be talking about only the "select" mach e with standard battery. My Mach e is with an extended battery and can charge much higher. Just FYI.

[@jebaker2]

Such a grest comparison... really well done! 👍🏻 I've owned my Model Y LR for 3 years and am very interested in trying another EV in a couple years but am very fearful of losing the Tesla niceties.

[@TheCostofAutism]

7:12 the cost of Tesla Chargers here in Florida is almost always less than Electrify America.... The only ones that are sometimes less expensive are the slower chargers from ChargePoint

[@FsnGoldandSilver]

Wrong Hertz now provides a QR Code to allow you to include a rented Tesla on your app. Which was great!

[@IrenESorius]

You are a true star Alyssa,, 👍‍‍🌟👍‍‍

[@beautyofgrace3915]

Great presentations guys! Keep up the good work

[@rusticroads]

I found the ride quality in the 2022 Model Y I test drove last summer to be quite inferior to the Mach-E. The seating was also less comfortable. I would compare it to a Ford Focus, except that I have driven a Ford Focus for hours, and I'm not sure I'd want to drive that Model Y for that long. I need to try another one. since it sounds as though the suspension has been changed recently. I'll also watch for the tire size, as that sounds like it makes a big difference in ride quality. A stiff ride is great when canyon carving, but not so great when commuting and road tripping. I'm not sure what was going on with the seating, so maybe it was just a bad car or something... More time is definitely needed on the next test drive.

[@iissac22]

Yeah lets start a trend of using your competitors charging stations. Most can keep up everywhere but none have their own charging stations.

[@tomasher1911]

Nice review. I looked at the Tesla and it just seemed a bit cheap even though it has more features. Ended up buying a BMW I4. Maybe put that on the list to review? I know a lot of people are switching from Tesla to the BMW. Would be interesting to hear your opinions.

[@C_J_81]

You have a detail wrong the standard range Mach e is 115 kwh and the extended range is 150 kwh.

[@DDDDD760]

Are you going skiing with Doc Brown ?

[@MrSkittlez313]

My brother bought a Mach E. He only went with the point she made. It’s easier to transition from a gas to electric vehicle. And applecar play.

[@tazeat]

Research your range figures ahead of time xD, but truth, EPA games aside, ranges are close enough to being the same... Its the charge curves that really differentiate the two.

[@ncmeinc]

I have been charging my model y and it will charge up to 250kw and when I see a mustang E at the charging stations they charge at 93kw so the tesla wins. I have a charging adapter for home from the Kia ev6 that I had it works fine and a ccs adapter to go on the high power like electrify america most of the other chargers only do 50 to 150k

[@mintumithu5075]

Very nice information guys 🎉

[@barryw9473]

Does CarPlay EV routing trigger battery conditioning?

[@anthonyc8499]

it does not. Only the native nav in the Mach-E turns on preconditioning.

[@barryw9473]

What is status of Mach E high voltage junction box problems?

[@AdamJakowenko]

Most Mach-E's built before May 2022 will have them fail, but Ford will not replace them proactively...they're waiting for them to die one by one and replacing under warranty. It's a huge pain for customers and the biggest black eye on the Mach-E IMO. Sadly even some Mach-E's built after mid 2022 are also having the HVJB fail, but the frequency is anecdotal at this point...I'm in the forums and the most common post is people posting their high voltage battery warnings and asking what to do, with many of us experienced owners telling them their HVJB has failed and they'll need to bring it in to be replaced, which takes anywhere from a few days to a few weeks depending on the dealer and parts availability.

[@barryw9473]

@@AdamJakowenko thanks. Agree Ford should replace HVJB proactively.

[@davidlugner1045]

@@AdamJakowenko so Found On Road Dead?

[@johnstubbs3573]

does the Ford do over the air updates?

[@johnholmes8487]

Yes, just bought my California Route 1 and it's already completed one. It told me ahead of time when it would happen and did it during the night. Pretty seamless.

[@dennisknehans3206]

I traded off my model Y 2023 For a mustang Mach EGT I regret it every day. The Mach-E beat me to death. Such a harsh ride. Nowhere near the technology. But I got it for its looks My model Y was a lot more practical for my lifestyle. Plus the model Y is a lot more affordable. My payment went up $60 a month.

[@ifzarik]

nice review!

[@ricke95126]

MME extended range has a peak charging speed of 150kw you are comparing a short range which also impact ride quality as the pack weight impacts ride quality also I test drive the etron and it's lumbers around in city driving but is nice inside BUT MME has better infotainment Also Tesla charging drops off at the top of the charge, alot of bad info here, Ford just added pre conditioning via OTA.. does OFS have a Tesla promo code??? Got to fund the ranch lol

[@ricric9521]

The Top Mach-E is $6k more than the Model Y performance right now. That's insane given that everyone was talking about how expensive the Tesla were. That's crazy. And the Mach E Gt is slower.

[@EVMANVSGAS]

Model E costs more for close to the same features and perfromance and only get's 1/2 the tax credit. And the touchscreen has a knob. I know you can't believe that someone would put a knob on a touchscreen but they did. Oh yeah, it also makes fake engine noises when you press the accelerator.

[@evgrandpa365]

There is a reason why Tesla Model Y is the best selling car in America at around 85--90 thousand a month and the Mach e is around 2 thousand a month.

[@CryptoJoeTrading]

Great information

[@raymondtrippy3610]

Tesla would be my choice and the MY is excellent though I think the M3 is better looking and hoping the refresh is a home run. At the moment the Mustang is the winner in the looks department interior and especially exterior but just my opinion.

[@loribarron2891]

Can you fit a Great Dane in a Tesla? I bought my dogs a 4Runner as it was easier for my Dane. My Jack Russels would enjoy the Tesla but wasnt sure about headroom for the very tall doggos. I would like to get a Tesla at some point.

[@viplav76]

They do compare.. in some things. Here’s some data (chart of comparison variables at 0:51) if it adds value to the viewers - A Side By Side Comparison: Tesla Model Y & Ford Mustang Mach E (with Current PRICE Updates) kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXLWYZavpcaLhcU

[@mikeroll8515]

Agree to disagree with you folks regarding "getting used" to not having a center console screen...or not having accurate, real time curb distance info...or not having rear cross traffic warnings...or not having blind spot warnings in the rear view mirror...or not having "birds-eye view" to assist with parking. All these features are offered with any other vehicle in this price range, whether ICE or EV (including the Ford Mach E). Teslas offer bad situational awareness relative to everyone else because Elon Musk insists on it, even against the advice of his own engineers. That's why so many of the good ones leave Tesla (e.g. Peter Rawlinson who runs Lucid).

[@MrMustangrick]

Mach E ordered. Not a Tesla fan.

[@mjsabie8517]

No Apple car play is a deal breaker for me with Tesla

[@ja163361]

Great review.. Because of charging I would pick Tesla

[@dwightpalmer9730]

A lot of us don't have a car play app. Nor are we looking to use one.