The Ford Escape Hybrid Start/Stall Condition Nobody Could Fix....Until NOW!

Come along as we diagnose this Start Stall Condition on a 2009 Ford Escape Hybrid!
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[@FordTechMakuloco]

I know this video is a bit drawn out but bear with me it was in the single digits outside there is still allot of great information here!! I am just glad it is fixed for this customer.

[@sunbow45]

Thank you very much for the video. I drive 2008 FEH AWD w/ 216,000 miles on it. Any video about FEH would be greatly appreciated.

[@louloedepalma4302]

This model needs it own folder, due to the amount of new headaches the hybrids have introduced that were unheard of before. Still waiting on a ABS fix with out having to spend thousands.

[@Effay513]

FordTechMakuloco I prefer longer repair videos with great information.

[@FordTechMakuloco]

+Louloe De'Palma yeah I have quoted jobs for those HCU's before the customer is never happy.

[@louloedepalma4302]

Want to find an old/broken HCU off of another vehicle, and break it down to see what its actually made up of. Can't find a blowout diagram for it either. Hard to believe something so small, has such a high price tag. Even more so, when the shit was designed with tech that is more than ten years old now. Be a great biz to set up, refurbing old ones, or building outright new and improved ones. For all anyone knows, its a 30 cents stuck seal inside the case, or a 10 cent fuse that succumbed to heat. Or they could at least create a work around, where the engine alone charges the battery, and you can disengage the front wheel regen, to allow the ABS to function off the engines charge alone. Less efficient, much more safe. Nothing like driving a box, and having the wheels lock up on a curved freeway exit ramp during thunderstorm in traffic. Good way to see if the heart's still beating.

[@stus1171]

Ford should pay you to be a social media ambassador/engineer. The knowledge you gave of problem solving these vehicles is incredible.

[@FordTechMakuloco]

Thank you so much!

[@djr3485]

Fixed like a boss! Really enjoyed this video as it shows the difference between amateur techs and a real pro. A reminder to us all to check the simple stuff first and not go tearing everything apart swapping out parts. Thanks Brian for sharing your wealth of knowledge.

[@hectormendoza2221]

YOU EXPLAIN EVERYTHING BETTER THAN ANY MANUFACTURER VIDEOS OR INSTRUCTORS. THANKS YOU KEEP ME GOING AS A TECH.

[@FordTechMakuloco]

Wow thanks it's interesting work isn't it?

[@kylebryan1]

Nice! I wish every dealer had techs as good as you!

[@daviddowell801]

Great video! As an Escape hybrid owner and an engineering student I thought this was the most informative DIY troubleshoot I've seen. I learned a lot! Thanks.

[@baxrok2.]

Outstanding fix Brian. Six other shops couldn't fix it but you could, congrats! This video was packed with some great lessons. Mobile diagnostics are often interesting and informative. Length doesn't matter. Keep them coming if you can. Thanks for sharing this!

[@FordTechMakuloco]

Thank you!

[@ozzstars_cars]

Nice fix man. I know very little about hybrids so this was a good stepping stone to learn more about it.

[@paigem]

this is a great video, i have an 07 Escape Hybrid, but very few people want to or know how to deal with them

[@denniswilkinson1118]

Well done Brian, I'm sure that customer is very happy. Just a shame he had all that unnecessary expense. Great video and info.

[@FordTechMakuloco]

He hugged me he was so happy!

[@JRobert111111]

You never cease to amaze me with your diagnostic skills; looking beyond the obvious, by breaking down each function into its basics. That and working in the freezing weather make you a very honest and top-notch service tech. in my book. Also, I've also seen your Houdini skills in person with getting to difficult to reach parts. So glad things are going successfully for you; but I know it is not without a lot of hard work.

[@adamp9377]

This was the exact sernario we had at my Ford training center during Escape hybrid new model training. It demonstrated the very high cranking speeds of hybrids!

[@jeffhesse8415]

Nice job! Thanks for teaching us some valuable lessons.Six shops need to learn how to tell their customer when they are not capable of working on their vehicles.

[@vulkastaab1153]

Oooo Thank you, Thank you, Thank you. I've been going through your videos for an issue I've been having. Turns out throttle body just needed cleaning. I like how you explain things. Thanks for making the electronics much less scary. Subscribed.

[@artman102]

Great repair job. Keep in mind that these Escape Hybrids have known issues with both the throttle body and the wheel ABS rigs, which crack and send bad signals. There are after market parts for both. And as you mentioned in a previous video, a few recalls.

[@jkallday1]

Thanks for the vid FTM. 2008 FEH started for a few then stopped. I was sure it was the fuel pump cuz I didn't hear it but it turns out the fuel pump was super quiet and it worked fine. So I hooked up ForScan and it was showing p0726. Messing around with it and cranking for so long caused the hybrid battery to go dead so I pressed the charge button a few times like you suggested in a previous video, thanks, and then it started fine. P0726 corresponds to a not matching RPMs between the TCM and the PCM indicative of possibly a crankshaft position sensor so I replaced that anyway. Working okay so far. Also seems to be using a lot of oil possibly PCV valve or hose leak not sure but I have heard that that PCV hose leak can cause this thing to shut down also.

[@omerbayrak1808]

This guy is talking to cars man. I am planning to buy Ford vehicles because him. For me his video channel is the most useful channel on KZbin.

[@sk13m11]

And now I got to go back and re test everything on mine. Thank you for this video

[@hawaiianf1504]

Bruddah - You got Mad Skillz!! Don't change anything on how you make these totally awesome videos!!

[@FordTechMakuloco]

Thanks!

[@haywardsautomotive6156]

Nice diagnosis & repair!

[@sandyande]

thanks Brian great video, one tip I picked up to tell if engine is actually running on a hybrid is to feel if exhaust manifold is getting warm! cheers sandy

[@FordTechMakuloco]

Another good tell these are so buried in shields though.

[@adalbertocordero9643]

Experience solves a lot of problems and patience.. Good for you on catching that one..

[@AandJsDad]

Thanx Very Much! My 06 Mariner(Escape) hybrid was doing same thing (start, "run" for 10 seconds and shut down). Had no idea it could "run" without combustion in cylinders! Watched video and sure enough, pressure was coming out exhaust, but no heat or fumes. Looked at fuel pump harness and it had a break in one wire (pita puppy chewed it)! Spliced it and problem solved! Saved a bunch of time & money - Nice Work, Thanx Again!

[@tracylewisperformance2270]

As always, great info Brian! These have to be long enough to train us all....your videos are invaluable. Hey, when your in need of a break let us know and set up a week here in FL. Shop is open to you any time!!

[@nicke2307]

this is an awesome video! hybrids and electric vehicle are a growing market. you gotta be on your A game to be successful in automotive and learn the newer technology.

[@nicke2307]

the other day i was going to test the fuel pressure on my 14 F150 and i ran it and let it stall with the fuel pump on and figured i was good and all the pressure was gone... boy was I wrong and got a spray of gas in my face lmao.

[@billrimmer5596]

Excellent as usual. Great info. Love your window motor to load the circuit.

[@FordTechMakuloco]

I prefer it because it pulls some amps so I know for sure if the circuit can run something like a fuel pump.

[@wakingstream]

Great video, helped me diagnose and fix a nonrunning hybrid mercury mariner. It had the same symptoms as this one. Is there a good place to read up on these hybrids systems?

[@sb3424]

I'm buying a 2010 Ford escape hybrid tomorrow. your videos will be useful in case something on it breaks. thank you.

[@SGDeGalvez]

It must feel good to be an expert at this craft.

[@FordTechMakuloco]

I am just glad I had a solid answer for the customer going in I thought this would be an oddball challenge but it was so simple in the end.

[@mikecoughlin3222]

You are the man! Your trick of pushing the button worked.

[@ratbert86]

The window motor load test is brilliant - thanks!

[@FordTechMakuloco]

It hasn't failed me yet and it provides real world results.

[@paulmaass1659]

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[@paulmaass1659]

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[@timjohnson1199]

Very interesting. I have a Maverick hybrid on order and a little apprehensive over potential issues with the system.

[@RobertKohut]

Wow, great video! I can't believe the other shops could not determine the gas engine was not running!! Why are they servicing a hybrid vehicle? Although I was surprised to learn of the "apparent engine run" a service shop should understand that!! Great stuff, thanks!!

[@hawaiianf1504]

Awesome TS skillz! Great Job Brian!!

[@eddie0175b]

Excellent video, like always. How can't I purchase a scan tool like you got. It's very informative.

[@FordTechMakuloco]

I use the Ford IDS it is quite expensive even for a shop.

[@Effay513]

Awesome repair job. This is why I subscribed!! Thanks for the info!

[@FordTechMakuloco]

Nice glad to have you here!

[@keithdefazio9613]

Once again very nice video sir. Thanks for sharing. Stay warm

[@FordTechMakuloco]

Thanks!

[@joesc641]

The fuel pump is so easy to get too on Ford Escape Hybrid's. One peek and seeing it was drilled out to repair the positive connector should have been a red flag. They went through the time to change the Hi volt battery and all the testing and replacing on all the hybrid parts and just overlooked a Fuel pump that had corrosion and "temp" repair. I could understand if they had to drop the fuel tank to inspect this but all they had to do is lift up the rear seat. I have gone through a few repairs that I have only seen once on some models in my 35+ years, so I know this happens. Not making excuses for the other tech's but stuff like this gets all of us at least once in our career.

[@paulcalif]

What scan software are you using? Does it connect through the OBD II connector. GREAT tool. Excellent trouble shooting skills, and video!! Thanks...

[@FordTechMakuloco]

The Ford IDS software expensive stuff but worth every penny.

[@dons8365]

I do this type of repairs daily in the city I live in. It never fails that the type repair they did in the past will always come back to haunt you. Why would anyone run a unsealed thru wire into the pump assembly and then create a possible spark condition by twisting wires together? If you are to run a follow up video on the way it should be repaired , show everyone how to solder and heat shrink the connections. NO BUTT CONNECTORS. And also only use a factory Ford pump.

[@robertcorbett460]

Your videos are amazing. Expert knowledge and easy to follow!

[@waqasazmat81]

Hi where is the chart for FPM? Would you mind posting a link for it? Thanks for showing/teaching a lot of good information.

[@joecar6805]

Brian, Love your electrical, sensors, and drivability videos. Especially Ford Quick tips #67 - best I've seen. I am also a Scannerdanner follower for the past 4 years. Recently he has been trying to do a by pass test (with a test light) on a Ford vrs crankshaft sensor. I have also been trying to do the test on my Ford ranger 4.0l to see if it can be done. No luck. Is it possible to get a spark from the ignition coil or fire one of the injectors? Your comments would be truly appreciated---- thank you

[@kenbyrdy8262]

Watching your videos I have ford 2006 hybrid but I live in California LA area any chance you know of a guy like you out here. Thks for your top notch info

[@jmri25]

real pro repair. you are great

[@axelbart7470]

thank you Brian, wealth of information, geesh how the heck do you stay warm at 10 degrees

[@FordTechMakuloco]

Thanks I hide inside the vehicle and work using the greenhouse effect!

[@guayaco-dm3vu]

Good one Brian. Learned some things myself..

[@FordTechMakuloco]

It's all very interesting to me maybe I should have been an engineer instead.

[@PKalsiArt]

Great video. Given that 6 garages could not find the fault says that the motor industry need guys like you who offer a 'get it right first time customer service' rather than making a customer spend hundreds or even thousands of dollars on unnecessary repairs.

[@01mineralgt]

Excellent video Brian. I have a question. How does the FPDM know what the duty cycle of the pump needs to be if there is no fuel rail pressure sensor? Is it referencing the MAF and O2 data?

[@FordTechMakuloco]

This vehicle has a dual speed mechanical returnless system so in essence it only has two speeds low and high so at idle to mid throttle the pcm may only request low speed operation where as 3/4 throttle or higher it would request high speed operation. This is all computed by the pcm based on the calculated load the engine is under which in most case is tp sensor, maf sensor and rpm.

[@micaileana721]

Great video, thanks for your help. Happy New Year.

[@6sixty1gixxer80]

No idea how much I wish you were in California right now..07 needs works

[@letdmichael]

Your video is great tool. My 2008 Ford escape hybrid has start problem. I have to cycle the key several times before it starts. Every time the key turned, I hear clicked sound from the backseat. Now, it takes much longer time to cycle the key to start. Please give me your opinion what is wrong with my hybrid. Thanks for your help.

[@jeremycollier466]

Very informative descriptive clear videos thank you for your help your channel is on my list

[@campermike8879]

I picked up right away the RPM was too low but it sounded like the engine was running so that threw me off. Then when you said it wasn't running fuel pump came right to my mind.

[@FordTechMakuloco]

To be fair the other day when I diagnosed it the weather was much much warmer and it cranked at around 1k rpm so that is where it really threw them off but I could still tell it was not running just by the tailpipe smell and sound.

[@campermike8879]

I can understand that. I've had my fair share of things that have thrown me for a loop over the years. Electrical problems are the worst.

[@ServingAmanda]

I own a 2010 Ford Fusion hybrid! A week ago I was driving on the highway and the car shut off going 90mph with a red triangle saying stop safely now and a solid check engine light . I pull over, turn the car off, turn it back on & everything is gone & it says ready to drive. So now I’m driving under 40mph cause I’m scared but it dose it again & again every 5-10 minutes. Then the past two days I have been driving around without a problem until today I was getting on the highway & the same thing happened again. I tried to put it in neutral & restart the car without pulling over but the steering wheel locked so I had no choice but to pull over. I don’t know why it’s doing this and I’m getting so many different answers online. Just thought I would see what people have to say about this! Thank you!

[@mystreteacher]

Thanks for the great video. Our 2010 Hybrid Escape has been in bodyshop for 6 weeks due to fender bender. We went to pick it up last night (3/4/2019) and it won't start. In the event they start telling me I need a new battery are there any other non-hybrid systems not mentioned in the video I should have them check out first?

[@MegaThunder70]

Well they got 319,000 miles out of the original fuel pump that’s pretty good

[@KLondike5]

I hope I get another 170K out of my Hybrid. These videos really are great training in how to diagnose these vehicles yourself.

[@maxxtech8532]

awesome job

[@JOHNPHUFNAGEL]

Great fix Brian!! Where would be a good place to find out what the Pid abbreviations stand for?

[@FordTechMakuloco]

The bottom of my scan tool tells me that info and so does the Ford PC/ED manual.

[@johnyoung4467]

i would be pissed! all that stuff around for whats a pretty simple problem. Goes to show the differance between a good mechanic.....and the rest. good work mate

[@FordTechMakuloco]

Yeah that is allot of money that no one has to throw around no matter how rich you are.

[@tonymaciel1887]

Good video thank you, which scan tool were you using?

[@battery_solar_ev]

Ive been trying to gather some info for a while now my hybrid battery is dieing and im going to do a lifepo4 swap on the cells what is the max voltage for the battery? I seen in your video it went up to 379 volts while charging. I was glad to see that. Is that the highest voltage it charges to or is 380 going to be max?

[@bradleymetler4918]

Hi @FordTechMakuloco. I have a 2009 FEH. Just turned 100K on all original equipment New Years Day 2022. I had a P030 DTC and replaced all ignition coils and plugs, cleared DTCs. Runs great now. However, there is significant blow by on the oil filler tube and dipstick. No knocking, smooth idle - drives normal. And no codes. It may have been like this all along but I just happened to check after startup after replacing coils and plugs. Before I do a compression and leak down test, I want to look down the cylinders with pistons at bottom. But for the tests, what is the proper procedure for getting the vehicle in a crank diagnostics mode since the HV Battery sends current toe h generator motor to turn the ICE? A video on this would be awesome ! Thanks! By the way, - what is the story behind. "Makuloco" ?

[@ahill007ny]

Nice work!!!! I learned a lot

[@rheannenowens3405]

I am loving these videos. I need to ask questions and my area has 2 hybrid people both say they can't help me because they have never seen or heard of this. My wrench is on the check engine is on. It's not starting really. But has fuel and sparks. Once it actually does start and get to 1500 rpms it starts like popping from the box behind the throttle body. Can u help me?

[@jimbuford4147]

Enjoy your vids. Wish you would do more than just Fords. By the way, was the customer able to recoup his money from the other shops or do you know?

[@FordTechMakuloco]

He is going around fighting them now. I have a few videos on other makes- kzbin.info/door/F3copz1Fd6kf1YWau_pKnQ

[@kfrisbee34]

Hello. At 10:04 you pulled a hose off to get to the fuel line. Could you tell me what that hose is and where it goes? It was pushed down into the red whole on the throttle body. Thanks for all your help, have fixed many projects because of your chanel

[@Wrenchlife604]

good diagnois. funny seeing that hacked red wire

[@WAYNEROGERS54]

Looks like you know what is going on! I have a 2008 escape hybrid and can't get it to crank or start. You love to talk to you about this car.

[@curiosity2314]

Nice work...

[@mohualsharaf6330]

Might be buying a 09 Escape hybrid. Its nom running, and owner willing to let go for around 1k. Its got low miles but he thinks the hybrid battery is bad. I have a feeling it's something easy like this. But who knows 😅 to take the risk or not to lol

[@DG-od4si]

i hope that i don't have to go on an airplane that the other mechanics work on. excellent video thanks

[@sidjim7700]

Great fix Man! A quick question. Does a 2009 Escape hybrid have a jumper button for the HV battery? If not, how can I find the charging points for a portable HV battery charger to be connected?

[@configtron]

GOOD QUESTION! I have a 2009 that has been sitting for 2 years because the HV battery is dead. WHAT DO we have to do to charge it?

[@Dman407_]

What software do you use to do the diagnostics ?

[@davidwalker592]

What diagnostic software are you using? Where can I purchase it from at a reasonable price? Thank you.

[@mph5896]

320,000 miles? Was it a cab or delivery vehicle?

[@FordTechMakuloco]

+m ph Yes in its previous life.

[@KiteLovers1]

I have 2009 hybrid limited with 252K miles still running fine ✌🏼

[@rickgaine3476]

Nice video. Very informative. What type of scan tool do you use?

[@FordTechMakuloco]

+Rick Gaine Ford IDS

[@rickgaine3476]

FordTechMakuloco do you have any recommendations for an inexpensive bidirectional scan tool that would allow some of the same functionality?

[@FordTechMakuloco]

I use this one for all makes and models- amzn.to/2s3JXmI

[@Ka_Gg]

@FordtechMakuloco - Not sure if you will see this, but my 2007 isn't running anymore. The rod broke and is sticking out of the oil pan....Any chance that changing the fuel pump will get mine working too? lol. Would save me some money.

[@s.mcchristy9704]

I had exact same problem on my '07 FEH. Dashboard screen said check emissions system. Scan code said battery not charged. It turned out to be a bad ground between battery and frame. I sort of found this by accident. I shudder to think what would have happened if I had it towed to a dealer....

[@loish.7923]

Wondering if you have a video on instruction for flushing the engine and ME coolant for 08 hybrid escape? I haven't been able to find any information anywhere with details. Would appreciate your advice. Thank you!

[@billyr9840]

Nice ! Dude that was awesome !

[@timjohnson1199]

Is the Escape the same as the new Maverick? I'm surprised there is a single throttle body instead of direct injection. I don't have a problem with it, I like the simplicity of the throttle body. That loose wire back by the fuel tank bothered me. Did you solder it up?

[@yqwgjsg]

I don't understand. I know nothing about hybrids but when you asked the question, "how do we know the engine didn't start", the first words out of my mouth were, "low RPM". Since the fuel pump had failed previously and had been piss poor rigged, why wouldn't any decent tech suspect it. I know some half assed mechanic had done the rig and maybe even charged for a new pump and not told anyone but the fact still remains that the pump had failed previously and the symptoms should have been identical. You used common sense and experience to determine this quickly so it affirms my knowledge that there are a fair share of crappy mechanics working on cars. No wonder I do almost all work on my cars.

[@janinenini6638]

Have same issue on same vehicle we changed everything it’s still stalling mechanics can’t seem to figure it out do you have any other idea what else it could be? Thank you

[@adena2870]

I have an 08 with the wrench on and the red triangle and stop safely now lit

[@timjohnson1199]

"All very simple". If you're savvy with the system. A big IF. This is why I keep my 60s Triumph and my 92 Miata around.

[@problemsolving7190]

On the hybrid, if the fuel pump is bad will it not even allow the car to turn over?

[@artsmith103]

Would have liked to see the customer response to this job.

[@kilocycle2]

Great Video !! What scan tool do You use?

[@robertdavis6708]

My friend had a an early Fusion Hybrid that had the same symptoms.FMC had the car in their repair facility longer than the customer's home .Ford could not find an honest fix and gave my bud a great trade on an Eco Boost Fusion. He's tickled to death with his new Fusion...the Hybrid Fusion disappeared.

[@twest0011]

fantastic and a huge thank you God bless brother

[@paigem]

@fordtechmakuloco - What program do you use to allow you to take control and test each component? Using an 07' escape hybrid thanks

[@FordTechMakuloco]

I use the Ford IDS software.

[@allencobbs877]

My son has a 2012 Ford Escape Hybrid that is getting intermittent "Stop Safely Now" messages that disable the vehicle. No Codes are found. A Hybrid Repair Shop recharged the Hybrid Battery and it worked for a month. Before that a shop that didn't have a Hybrid Trained Tech replace the Service Plug and that fixed the vehicle for several months (not sure why). I see that you use software to upgrade the Control Modules. Is this software available for DIY Tech's and if so where would I get the software.

[@dnoggle1]

ok i know this is a old video i have watch several of your videos on the escape hybrid the problem im having is it has been throwing a p0a1f code a few times now it is a 2008 escape if i remember the one time is was saying something about the temp this time it is telling me something to do with the disconect plug so we desided it was time to take it in to a shop to see what is going on. i do have a snap on scaner and i have been working on stuff for 20 years know cars trucks buses but by far a master at none so when we went to take it in now it will run for a little bit and shuts down couldnt even get it to run long enuff to park it back in the drive way put scaner back on and has a p1a10 code as well so had it towed in the shop tells me the battrie pack is shot and a new one is $10,000 or a used one for 1600 i have a hard time bleaving the it went bad just like that . i fell like it could be a bad sensor or connection i live in sauk rapids minnesota.

[@alpalchevskiy3886]

cool stuff! what software do you use on your laptop for scanning?

[@petragorgi1766]

Is there a fuel filter?...it seems that my car does the same thing...but it runs after restarting the engine...I just don't know when it stalls again. So I don't drive it much as I wantbto

[@LeaseOffers]

Hi I bought 2019 ford fusions I have same issue I cant get to work any recommendations im out nyc

[@cyprusmiraque]

Is this something that can happen with older models, like the 06?

[@ramiroantonioolanoacevedo6098]

Hi Brian, I have a problem with my ford escape limited 2011, when the temperature is in the meddle the cooling fan doesn't work because the pcm don't send the signal to the relay, in similar case the clutch of the AC, don't cooling, just fan, what can I do? Ramiro from El Salvador