FOREKNOWN? Revisiting Romans

Dr. Leighton Flowers, Director of Evangelism and Apologetics for Texas Baptists, anticipates some condescending rebuttals to his interpretation of Romans 8:29 and reads through another scholar's perspective.
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[@greyknight627]

I tried to listen to Dr. White’s podcast and I couldn’t get past the first 10 min. Dr. White is so arrogant in how he deals with his brothers in Christ. It’s a real shame because I hear from his opposition all the time how knowledgeable he is, but his blatant antagonism of other Christian apologists and theologians turns me off right away. I pray he realizes his own folly and makes attempts to make amends with his brothers.

[@preacherpreach2122]

Anyone else hype that the opening song is back????

[@d.carpenter7519]

Why is it that Calvinists, when not dealing directly with Calvinism, sound like non-Calvinists?

[@charlienew4580]

James White needs to apologize to a lot of people.

[@carolinelvsewe]

What will never stop bugging me is that following one man in such a staunch way of 5 points NOT listed out in the word is wrong. Just talk about the scripture as you teach it and the Holy Spirit leads not a man or a plan on either side. Sounds simple and is. You are so right about James White. I use to follow him but realized he has one agenda with 5 points.

[@guitarplayer1434]

a "christian' saying I knew I needed saving from my sins is to me the most arrogant statement one could make

[@JF-cb8lk]

Why would a god who determines all things have any use for foreknowledge?

[@carladean2339]

Guess I'm just a simple believer, but I don't understand the need to be right and someone else wrong at this end of the deep, when there are so many who don't even understand the simple "Good News" of the gospel of Jesus's FINISHED work. They don't know they are new creatures, no longer under condemnation, but justified once, forever more, NEVER to be judged again, no matter how their wrong beliefs may cause them to miss the LOVE of God. NOT religion but relationship is all is required to see the TRUTH. God is LOVE! Amen? Why are we not sharing that more?

[@SupernaturalIsNormal]

There is a much simpler understanding of foreknow....WHOM DOES GOD FOREKNOW? or put another way WHOM DOES GOD NOT FOREKNOW? God foreknows everyone!!!!!!!!! The free choice of the anyone to believe and follow Christ are all foreknown by Christ already, and is conformed to the image of Christ! ALL PEOPLE everywhere....but only those that choose to follow Christ are saved!

[@TheTrinityDelusion]

"Those He foreknew" refers to who God had known in the past - ISRAEL. People get this wrong because they lose Paul's train of thought in the previous 7 chapters. Paul tells us that he is addressing the Jews in the Roman church but as usual nobody is listening unless their ears get tickled. And that is why Paul he goes on to say: I say then, God has not rejected HIS PEOPLE, has He? May it never be! For I too am an ISRAELITE, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God has not rejected His people WHOM HE FOREKNEW. Rom 11.

[@kimberleerivera4135]

Glory To GOD!!!

[@ironlion805]

Gracious, loving, humble.

[@JP-mq4zc]

Thank you Dr. Leighton Flowers. Your message was helpful to me to counter an atheist's argument that Christian God is cruel and and partial.

[@kimsteel366]

Wow! This is so good!! I'm seeing that passage in a totally new light! And it's way better than I saw it before! Thank you again, Doc Flowers, for speaking the simple, beautiful, untainted truth of God's word! 👏👏

[@GraveMistake1]

A meek, humble, loving attitude is what is needed to bring the truth to those caught in the snare of Calvinism . I am learning so much by watching your videos especially by your generous behavior to help people see the truth. Praise God for His helps and blessings to give us understanding about this important issue by way of such loving brethren.

[@oprophetisfake9482]

I am so glad to hear someone expressing the Arminian perspective on foreknowledge instead of the ridiculous demigod version of the delorean. The Calvinist does not even begin to understand the foreknowledge or omniscience of God. They simply don't understand that God can know all things unless He is the one causally determining everything. They don't recognize omniscience as a separate quality of God but relegate it under His omnipotence. But then they don't understand his omnipotence either. They don't understand that God can have the ability, and have everything, under His command, if He does not use it to make all things conform to His perfect desire. That is why they deny any real agency to men or angels and end up with a system that cannot but make God causally responsible for evil.

[@Real_LiamOBryan]

Reading Romans with a Calvinistic lens is very weird because you can see the theme, mentioned several times in almost every single chapter of the book, of Jew/Gentile and Law/Faith. Reading it as the Calvinist does pulls you out of that context/theme into little blurbs here and there about predestination and other Calvinist watchwords. Don't take my word for it! Go through the book of Romans and simply highlight everything that speaks about Jew, Gentile, Law, Works, Faith, etc. You will see that that is the theme. That is the context. This also entails that the text, while applying to individuals, is primarily about people groups.

[@JacquelineRPrice]

I'm always so encouraged listening to you, Dr. Flowers. Thank you again for showing me the loving, sacrificial heart of our gracious Lord and Savior.

[@orangepeel3465]

Thanks!

[@JohnQPublic11]

Is there anything more depraved, more degenerate, more reprobate, more immoral, more perverted, more down right devilishly evil than going around telling everybody the GOD of the Bible creates and predestines