Forensic Files - Season 3, Episode 8 - Deadly Formula - Full Episode

[@gawayategulle6272]

The two doctors who followed their hearts - against all odds - must be congratulated. They are true heroes.

[@Doo-l5x]

They followed their brains 🧠

[@kate2create738]

The doctor that gave a second look is a hero! He not only helped Patricia, but he reunited a family with a tragic situation.

[@smalltiny]

probably will eventually save another mother/father/caregivers life as well when a child with mma is born and undiagnosed. he's a true hero!

[@vuksgitau]

Had she not had DJ she would have spent the rest of her life in prison for a crime she didn't commit. What a terrifying thought.

[@oliviamartini9700]

And the other prisoners DESPISE baby-killers; she would have had to live in solitary. No one believing her, especially with prior neglect charges...Hell.

[@Ze_Moose]

She walked on the fine line between guilty and innocent. Excellent balance

[@victorhaines1767]

imagine people in jail for a crime thy did not do?!😢😮😢

[@cikosphysicaltherapist6017]

@@oliviamartini9700what do you know about prison? you watch too much TV.

[@celinedanciu3854]

Olivia martini you watch too much tv and are very ignorant. I lived next to a baby killer in prison and I promise she had many friends, played cards with us all and nobody “despised “ her. Lol. Also many women in there for doing horrible sexual acts on their own children and none of them were “beat up” or “despised” they were just fine. So many people say stuff like this. That’s why they need the death penalty !!!

[@raquelamara4130]

Because of this show I am studying forensics…I’ve been seeing “Forensic Files” for 20 years now

[@babagandu]

We need it in Mexico

[@tiffanywhy5442]

Same here I'll have my degree next yr

[@C4TC4T]

That’s awesome! Good for you

[@steelhurricane4041]

Is it fun, or is it just routine learning? Either way, happy for you. Your on the right side. Lol.

[@cannonsovercharged]

Glad you didn't use the the phrase 'forensic science.' Science is not biased posers working towards preconceived conclusions. This 'pretext for incarceration' would fail a high school science fair.....conclusions don't come first...biases aren't ignored. Conclusions aren't free from review because your peers are poor. These lab reports are pretexts for pigs to do whatever they want, like smelling tweed or furtive movements

[@abenakwaewaah3793]

I salute the Doctor who took it upon himself to run further investigation. And to the DA ;my respects for accepting he committed a mistake. It was an honorable thing to do, but then I'm tempted to wonder how many others have been imprisoned for investgations gone wrong.

[@synergisticcollusion134]

Lots!

[@jaydub4661]

Check out The Innocence Project. They have freed many people because of issues like this

[@gawayategulle6272]

My, oh my!!! This is a case that every criminal defense attorney should follow and tuck away for permanent record. One needs to write a thesis on it - there is so much to talk about!! Congratulations to the prosecutors who did not hesitate to admit their mistake; that does look like humility!

[@kalanisplash]

This case is the exception. 99% of the time, law enforcement nails the guilty party correctly.

[@algorythym]

it was a mostly circumstantial evidence case. they just happened to have used and possessed antifreeze...she has a history of neglect thru teen parenting. no cameras in the hospital during the feeding. smh

[@NHarmonik]

And every prosecutor for that matter.

[@devodavis6747]

The scariest part of this story is that prosecutor saying "So we agreed to a new trial... *AND WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT."* What kind of crap is that?? That's too much power for some local government employee. If a prosecutor can just say "Nah, no new trial, I don't feel like it" that's WRONG. There should be federal laws in place that force a new trial in light of such new evidence.

[@kathrynhoward4196]

Damn straight. That's actually terrifying.

[@hazardousroo]

Hey, at least give credit where it's due. yeah. 'And we didn't have to do that' is a real jerk statement, but they DID do that. Many prosecutors wouldn't have. And because they actually had the will to admit they could be wrong, which many prosecutors ALSO wouldn't have done, a wrongful conviction was overturned. Take the good whenever you can, because it's rare enough as is.

[@robertmiller3810]

I’m 79yo and was born with this rare defect in the small bowel. It was called “Waste of Life” back in 1944. My mother rushed me to the hospital at just 6 months old because I had the exact same symptoms as both these children had. Two doctors examined me and brought me back to my mother. They told my mom to take me home because I was dying from the “Waste of Life” and there was nothing could be done to save me. The problem is a rare defect in the small intestines that your body cannot absorb certain fats and proteins. So because of this problem, you vomit and have bad diarrhea because you’re literally starving to death. The most dangerous time for any baby with this defect is up to 6 months old. I was at death’s door and with my Maternal Grandfather being Native American, she took me to a medicine man/ shaman. He did a spiritual pow-wow, gave her herbs to make into a tea like drink and here I am. I still have that defect but not the resources to have it treated. At present, my Oncologist/Hematologist tests me for MMA in my blood. I’m trying to get my PCP to set me up with a geneticist to help ease my symptoms. My bowel is still messed up causing my body to produce MMA, just like the two boys. I know I cannot absorb certain fats and proteins cause malnutrition in me and I’m lucky to be alive this long or at all. So I may finally be able to have my “Waste of Life” today it’s still around in newborns but it’s now called “Failure to Thrive” and it’s still lethal, especially in poor countries where babies aren’t tested for the condition like here in the United States. So wish me luck!!!

[@marilynwillett804]

certain enzimes missing from the small intestine will give you celiac desease,lethargic, maybe blood in the urine, you can't digest gluton but usually you out grow it.

[@robertmiller3810]

@@marilynwillett804 Mine unfortunately also includes a birth defect that’s causing complications. At 79yo, I still have a daily battle with it, that’s a long time to suffer a life altering condition. I have had multiple tests for Celiac and it always comes back negative, so that’s eliminated. So after all these years, I finally found a PCP willing to give me a referral to be seen by a Geneticist since after much research, I was able to track down that genes 11 & 12 are the culprits. I doubt there is anything that can be done, gene wise, but I’m sure I’m missing certain enzymes that could be prescribed for me. I’ll probably will also be seen by a dietitian but after 79 years of suffering from it, I’m pretty sure I know what food and liquids give me problems and stay away from them. I eat chicken without skin or fat, and my beef is 96% fat free but my bowel is only one issue that dictates what I can or cannot eat, so my diet is very restrictive. Thank you for posting a reply.

[@robertmiller3810]

@@ajhindalou There are many native tribes around the world that use natural herbs and plants to help the members of the tribe. Just look at the Shaman who saved my life. I never knew what tribe he was from but my Maternal grandfather knew of him. At one point in time, six different tribes occupied this part of Pennsylvania and he could have been from one of them. He would cure anyone who believed and needed his skills. His headstone simply states “L. Carl” nothing else. I guess he was a proud humble man and didn’t want notoriety. I stop by his grave every time I go to the cemetery and thank him for saving my life.

[@ysalab3117]

Wishing you all the best

[@robertmiller3810]

@@ysalab3117 Update: On January 11th 2023, my new doctor, a top geneticist in my area accepted me as a patient. Because of all my defects, both mine and extended family’s, he was surprised I was still alive. I assume you’ll know what I’m referring to but he chose the top analysis of my DNA. He swabbed the inside of my cheeks and is having the Whole Genome Sequencing ordered. He said because it’s so complicated, it would take 2 to 3 months to complete. I have a 1 in a million heart birth defect, my blood is classified as “Kappa light chain IgM-MGUS and is progressing to NHL my Oncologist believes and the list goes on and on. My brothers son, my nephew, he and his wife had an Anaphylactic baby girl who lived 2 1/2 years with just the brain stem. So you see why my geneticist is so interested in me. He already warned me that a fatal problem may be found and I could die. I told him, been born defective and living this long being sick, it might be a blessing to die.

[@0deadx21]

Patricia's son, David P. "D.J." Stallings, Jr., died in 2013, at the age of 23. David P. Stallings, father of Ryan and D.J., died after a long illness in 2019.

[@aprilgosa5779]

Odeadx21 well now I cannot watch

[@nw6070]

@@aprilgosa5779 well now you know to sit back and enjoy the show before reading comments. If you go to the movies you also don't walk up to people exiting the theater asking them what happened.

[@mercykabila5968]

Sad

[@Amy021277]

@@nw6070 don't read the comments before watching, simple solution don't you think??

[@vhagerty]

Oh my gosh! That poor woman! God bless her.

[@admiralgeneralaladeen9056]

Dr Shoemaker passed away in 2020 Baby DJ Stalling Jr passed away at 23 in 2013 And Partricia's husband David passed away in 2019. Sad!

[@dougrissling8807]

Wow! I am so sorry for what I was thinking about that poor woman. Thank God for the birth of baby DJ. I'm so sorry for the loss of that sweet little baby boy. It's absolutely amazing how far they have come in Forensic sciences.

[@markraymo997]

When I started watching this I was like WTF IS WRONG with this woman?! The fact that they actually found antifreeze in the house didn't help matters.

[@markraymo997]

I keep all that stuff in the trunk oil, antifreeze ect. It doesn't do you any good to leave it at home.

[@LadyVoldemort]

@@markraymo997 I don't even know what an antifreeze is. I guess I have to Google it now... Edit: I Googled it. "a liquid, typically one based on ethylene glycol, that can be added to water to lower the freezing point, chiefly used in the radiator of a motor vehicle." _"most breakdowns were due to people forgetting to put antifreeze in their radiators"_ I live in Indonesia (a tropical country) my whole life...I guess that's why I never knew what it was...we never need it here. 😅

[@realnurse2696]

I can’t believe I heard the man’s stomach growl at 19:45. 😂 Maybe I should have been a forensic detective.

[@charlenedonfack550]

Wow! This story deserves to be adapted in a movie.

[@morganosborne9258]

Poor Ryan didnt stand a chance. It is particularly dreadful when the littlest ones are stricken with rare diseases. His parents may never fully heal from the losses and Patricia's brush with lifetime incarceration. I am pleased that all who faced civil suits had the civility to settle instead of wasting the court's time. Prayers for the family. RIP baby Ryan. Justice finally was served.

[@synergisticcollusion134]

Civility?!😂🤣😂 More like they only wanted to pay what they wanted and had it gone to trial, then they risked a jury awarding A LOT more than what the city had wanted to pay!

[@JohnH20111]

yeah if it were me, i would’ve ended up owning the State’s Attorneys AND every one of the police officers that investigated the case every one of them would be financially ruined for life

[@smalltiny]

she was risking death penalty!! insane, if she was put to death, who would answer for her life? i'm disgusted with the laboratories.

[@synergisticcollusion134]

​@@JohnH20111 You obviously aren't familiar with Qualified Immunity. 🤭🙄

[@Abbiekakez]

This episode was such a roller coaster of emotions lol

[@snackasmversion2752]

DJ died in 2013 at the age of 23 and their father passed away in 2019 due to illness. I can't imagine Patty's pain losing both her children and father of her children, I wouldn't wish that upon anybody not even my worst enemy.

[@Ze_Moose]

So true. Is she still alive?

[@snackasmversion2752]

@@Ze_Moose Yes, Patty is still alive. I still can't imagine her pain even today.

[@adamsilver5230]

@@Ze_Moose waryee ma somali miyaa tahay?

[@adamsilver5230]

Thnx for the update & I hope she is okey 🙏🏾 I’m watching from Kuala Lumpur Malaysia at 4:17am #loveforensic files

[@snackasmversion2752]

@@adamsilver5230 I hope she is too, like I said what she went through I would never wish upon my worst enemy.

[@rubysky2255]

This episode (I’ve watched almost every season of FF) is one of the most crazy and also reminds me that you should always get a second opinion and a second or third pair of eyes to look over scientific evidenxe

[@yvaine2960]

And make sure they’re truly expert or renowned in their field

[@synergisticcollusion134]

You don't always have the choice!! Duh... 🙄🙄🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@sharathnagendran3754]

I think this episode IS a perfect for "Forensic files" as this one really used science to its core.

[@doranvee5944]

Finally a feel good story. Justice!

[@markraymo997]

Absolutely! This certainly isn't a typical episode. This was different.

[@pamelaleigh4225]

Wow...thank God for the birth of her 2nd child - this FF hasn't been as watched as others, but it's really good.

[@thenativist3564]

It was uploaded only two days prior.

[@pamelaleigh4225]

@@thenativist3564 oh, that's why....

[@Angel-Kitten]

Thank God for the birth of another sick child.

[@28ebdh3udnav]

The DA is one of the few who will admit their mistake and own up to it

[@synergisticcollusion134]

Except he didn't.

[@fair2middlin]

DA's want a conviction first, justice maybe

[@RisingEdge111]

The DA didn't make a mistake. That was what the evidence from the labs and doctors showed so he had to prosecute. Unfortunately the labs and doctors were wrong.

[@rupakgbikas4477]

She is my hero. Glad they found out the truth and the court accepted ths finding. we are happy to learn she was released.

[@pfg923]

Not a murder case like almost every episode of forensic files, but one of the saddest cases to imagine. So sorry for this family. 😞😞😞 unbelievable what happened here

[@gloriaorth4628]

I remember this case from Unsolved mysteries. I am so happy they were cleared of all charges.

[@k19mcdaniel]

I love these forensic files shows. Something different in the true crime world.

[@user-fk8tr5ev8q]

why its important to review all murder cases from time to time, in case of a misconviction. imagine all those wrongfully convicted

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

Not many. DNA has been around awhile

[@ericabrouillette9037]

And my reason AGAINST the death penalty. What if we're wrong? You can't set free an innocent person who's dead.

[@zone47]

May God bless em all for doing the right thing and allowing the truth to be heard.

[@itsmeiniaku]

The two doctors are genius. Real heroes

[@LauraSti]

"Such a small mistake on paper" I'm sorry, what? That is not a small mistake! That's a huge difference in size and structure! I don't think the labs compared samples at all! Unbelievable incompetence from the testing facilities.

[@Sephiroth766]

I think they meant small in a literal sense that being a number off or a line slight not parallel would cause huge difference in readings.

[@stardmg]

So what about that social worker that claimed Patricia said "I don't care about that!" when told about Ryan's death? Did they make it up??

[@purplestarrs]

That's wat I was wondering as well like wats up with that

[@gabriellebrooks2065]

​@@purplestarrsMe too

[@SomethingSomethingg]

This reminds me of a Simpsons episode where Kent Brockman reports, "Mr. Burns was taken to Springfield Hospital and pronounced 'dead'. He was then taken to a better hospital where his condition was upgraded to 'alive'". It's amazing How your life can be destroyed by simply getting stuck with inept doctors and idiotic laboratory workers.

[@jodycwilliams]

"Science" is only as good as the people interpreting it. People are incredibly fallible. Kind of makes me sick to think of how hard we rely on science when what we're really doing is putting ultimate and total trust in the scientists.

[@SomethingSomethingg]

@@jodycwilliams Exactly which is why a lot of people don't trust doctors especially when they can profit so heavily off what they're doing. There should be a limit to how much a doctor can earn so that we know that people are really doing it because they care and not for the money. It's no wonder people don't even trust taking these vaccines.

[@EvertG8086]

@@SomethingSomethingg shut up

[@babagandu]

@@EvertG8086 ¡Viva Mexico!

[@EvertG8086]

@@babagandu Not even mexican

[@Thursdaysindecember]

I have a problem. I watch these forensic files like it’s my job. People dying. No prob. A kid/baby get hurt and I’m out.

[@aprilgosa5779]

Selaina B you have humanness I cannot stomach babies or animals getting hurt

[@crow-vz5lx]

Babies and kids need our protection. It's hella sad when a POS hurts any child

[@omarsolis3890]

Then don’t watch.. simple fix

[@saeed_pm]

This episode teaches you that no matter how concrete the evidence are, they're is always a possibility of mischarging someone with a crime that they did not commit

[@saeed_pm]

Now with that in mind, think about people who were charged and convected with only circumstantial evidence 😢

[@abeauuuu]

I’ve never even heard of the prosecution accepting new evidence and completely dropping the charges before. They always stubbornly keep going because they don’t want to admit wrongdoing and then a jury and defense experts have to do what they should have done in the first place. Good on these guys for doing the right thing.

[@shanaeverowe9626]

I have seen it a few times when it's clear they messed up on the initial evidence. It's done this way instead of a trial in the hopes to not get their pants sued off them. There was one case in the early days of DNA testing where they just did a blood type analysis that "matched" the suspect...and over 20% of the population. They refused to send away and pay for the DNA analysis. When the defense raises the funds and got the test done it was shown to not be a match and the same press conference and removal of charges was done

[@tiffanywhy5442]

Glad she sued and won!

[@amp279]

Maybe the social worker, having it in the back of her mind that this woman was guilty of killing her child, either misheard or misrepresented what Patricia said, I found out long after the fact that social workers told lies about my family in reports, they're human & not always right, sometimes they read into things & see misconduct when the information they have isn't the whole picture, at times they worry little about what will happen to those kids once their input is over, especially if they're under a lot of pressure to process/finalise cases as many are, not saying they're all like that, I have met very caring ones too.

[@thekingof8]

Still doesn't make it right.

[@AshababyO]

Yes. I have read a “respected” detective’s report that was full of tall tales!!

[@jprofio]

I think if someone looks at your lab results and actually says "this is garbage" you really shouldn't be working with a hospital, I really hope the people that reported the original test results got in a significant amount of shit for it.

[@Arizona_Skin_Walker]

I hope not fired, and stripped of their degrees.

[@jprofio]

@@Arizona_Skin_Walker They got an innocent woman sent to prison and a baby died because they misidentified a medical condition as poisoning. That's at least something to be fired over, if not losing the right to practice.

[@pepe6666]

@@jprofio it was a procedural error, really. if you look at the charts they are really analogue and its not exactly digital. but there are higher standards to adhere to for lab people of course.

[@PiraticOctopus]

It almost makes me wonder if they were looking for common causes of poisoning and just went with what looked closest out of those. I’d understand a jury not seeing a problem with those graphs, because how are they supposed to know that difference was so significant? But the people trained in the field who run these tests? I can’t believe no one stopped and said, “Hey, something isn’t right here.”

[@jprofio]

@@PiraticOctopus Seriously! There's so many cases where the people examining evidence ignore stuff because they decide they already know what happened and their tunnel vision blocks out everything else

[@StewyAdamRules]

It’s good that the prosecutors immediately knew something was wrong and tried to investigate further. I feel like too many of these wrongful convictions have the prosecutors refusing to walk back their case out of pride or laziness. It’s their job to put people behind bars but it’s as much their job to keep good people out.

[@AnimEva_33]

Poor Ryan! He never had a chance in life :( I'm very happy that the prosecutor saw the new evidence and decided to release the charges instead of such with his ego and leave her in jail

[@ShugaAnnSpyce]

This makes me sad for all of the innocent people that have been imprisoned.

[@TheTechCguy]

This show was so nostalgic for me! I'll never forget that ominous intro and theme song. Lol! So 90s, so childhood....

[@BrendaPetersen-t3y]

These episodes are just fascinating....and this one was stunning.

[@hazreyno]

No mother should undergo such heartbreaking events.

[@xnvaznx]

It was not the science that convicted her, it was multiple human errors which led to the loss of David's life beginning with the wrong hospital. Thank God for baby DJ and that those two doctors had the conscience to review the initial findings.

[@mishonwhite111]

The man who talks for the forensic files stories has a very serious voice that has my attention 💯 🙄

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

He's been dead for years.

[@beckyboo1433]

One of the best voices in true crime 🥰

[@computerfreya317]

Geez. She had almost been sentenced to death for the murder that never happened. 😔

[@ericabrouillette9037]

Exactly why I'm against the death penalty - what if we're wrong? Cant't bring the life back of an innocent person wrongly put to death.

[@KimDreamcatcher]

I remember this story. It was also featured on Unsolved Mysteries.

[@purplestarrs]

So why did she tell the social worker that she didnt care that her baby died

[@zuzellogan5613]

Sometimes one wonders about these “commercial labs” even if it is for just a simple and routine blood testing IF they are indeed accurate in the readings of the results, and in the person(s) or lab technicians reading the outcome of the blood test and their “interpretation “ of same. This episode makes you think twice how reputable and truly accurate these labs are……it makes anyone wonder. I know I do question their veracity.

[@pepe6666]

dont get too carried away. this is an isolated incident and you shouldn't attribute this sort of workmanship to just any laboratory youve heard about. science built the modern world. you're going to hear about dodgy stuff on tv but think about how much of this is completely automated with machines and computers analysing stuff. this is a very old story remember. look at that graph - all visual and analogue. its 2021, not 1995.

[@stefc1289]

I'm thinking it's, to a degree, dependent upon an individual lab tech. Like any job, an inept or dishonest person can effect the results of how well the job is done. Police officers, doctors, teachers, mechanics, etc. (I read that medical mistakes were the 3rd leading cause of death one year.) Some mistakes do cause much more harm than others.

[@NardoWeird]

It’s like any other job tho some people people are better at what they do

[@Butterflybloom4]

What a miracle, one child sent her to prison, and one took her out. What a lucky lady she is...

[@lanetterung4463]

Thank God she was pregnant...Thank God a scientist thought about, and found out this horrible mistake!

[@marilynwillett804]

@Chris Wen This is planet earth, not paradise. you don't believe in GOD because according to you He should correct all wrongs, well if you don't believe in Him yet you have expectations of him. God exists, this is a fallen world.

[@divinewon73]

🌈 people keep thanking a god even though it was the same one who allows millions of children to die of dysentery starvation and war… Millions of people die and suffer needlessly and pray all they want without results… Silly superstitions that will not go away… Sad. “It is called faith because it is not knowledge.” 😻👍 Christopher Hitchens

[@divinewon73]

@@marilynwillett804 😉 You believe in a god because you were told to. There is no proof and no mention to correct mistakes. The word “facts“ comes before “faith“ “fantasy” and “fiction” for good reason. It’s not only alphabetical, it’s using reason instead of emotion to understand the real world. Too bad so many people fall for giving money away while they believe in some powerful being like they did in ancient Rome, ancient Greece and other civilizations around the world. All their gods are mythology and so are the current gods as well. Oh well, keep believing and keep giving… All powerful beings need lots of money… That’s why the religious “leaders“ fly in private jets, live in beautiful big mansions and have fabulous vacations. “You have to have faith”! because facts hurt.🥲

[@johnnythewalrus]

@divinewon73 what's silly as that people like you cannot grasp a concept as simple as free will. Evil exists in this world because of those who turn away from God. He gave us free will and allows bad things to happen because they are a result of our bad choices. 🤦‍♂️

[@craigD712dec]

OUT COME THE RELIGIOUS SPOUTING THANK GOD. LOSERS HAVE TO JUSTIFY THEIR PATHETIC EXSISTENCE BY CLINGING TO SOME DAIETY TO COPE. SO GOD LETS CHILDREN SUFFER AND HUMANS KILL EACH OTHER BUT THEY SAY ITS HUMAN CHOICE BUT ALL THE GOOD IS FROM THEIR SO CALLED GOD. THEY ALL MAKE ME SICK

[@ab1577]

Imagine how many innocent people lock in prison...

[@hughbowman7591]

Having antifreeze where it shouldn’t be didn’t help her much

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

Well, maybe they're out of room? I have dog toys and TP in a shower...

[@youceftalbi9041]

amazing case !!! thank you for digging up morr more Dr JD shoemaker and the others....rest in peace ryan and I read online that DJ has passed away in 2013 at the age of 23 and David sr in 2013 rest in peace to all of them

[@jameshil8661]

Prosecutor -"well I had a job to do". This documentary is why I don't care for people specifically people who speak without being 100 percent sure.

[@quadplays924]

But why did she say “I don’t care about that” when she was told her baby died.

[@markl762]

That’s exactly why I came on here to comment on. why did she say that

[@jamesl9371]

Maybe she was too stressed out and not thinking rationally

[@kathrynhoward4196]

People would have said she was guilty based solely on that without DJ.

[@cathybassett6432]

If not for James Shoemaker this would never had been found out.

[@brianallison1913]

Which raises the question of how many people are in prisons that have been mistakenly convicted? How many intentionally as well as wrongfully?

[@TheConorsmithusa]

poor mother to have to go through all that bullcr@P

[@virg0_lem0nade]

YOU GUYS PUT A PHOTO FROM A TOTALLY DIFFERENT EPISODE AS THE THUMBNAIL

[@noahmiller6193]

The second opinion is the more compelling one, obviously. However, there are still 2 things I have questions on. 1. How did the EG get in the bottles? Was there propionic acid in there too? 2. Did Ryan only get sick around Patricia, or was it just a constant thing they were dealing with?

[@Tiny-Toe-Beans]

I also questioned the EG in the bottles. The only reason for that I could come up with was that it was baby's spit backing up into the bottle as he sucked the formula out.

[@djm55]

@@Tiny-Toe-Beans Agree completely. And propionic acid is a natural byproduct of the metabolism of longer-chained fatty acids, so it's natural to find in the body and even in the saliva of normal individuals, not to mention those with a metabolic disorder.

[@JL0ndon]

It’s so weird to think that baby and I are the same age. If he had survived he would’ve been in the same grades as me and he would’ve grown up watching the same shows and movies. This is just so weird to think about

[@johnnythewalrus]

So don't think about it

[@JL0ndon]

@@johnnythewalrus lol thinking doesn’t work like that

[@reflections9234]

The prosecutor saying “..we didn’t have to do that..” was so arrogant

[@stfuplsok]

Honesty is the best policy.

[@johnburn872]

“Trust the Science”

[@christineacalderbank]

If she had an abortion with her second child the court case would not have been overturned.. her child DJ saved her life!!

[@loretta_3843]

How absolutely frightening! You have a child, you have to deal with their illness and death, and then you're accused of murder and people are convinced you did something you never even considered doing! Absolute nightmare 😫

[@breechjuanillo2049]

Thanks for the Forensic Science

[@UnderratedSpaghetti]

Her comments about I don’t care about that get me out of here after learning about her baby being dead were still concerning.

[@naomi6608]

Yeah I’m surprised nobody brought that up

[@8luvbug]

Maybe that person made it up? Why? I don't know.

[@Foxfire8787]

Doesn't explain why she told the social worker she didn't care that her son died. Please don't give me that "Everyone grieves differently" c r a p

[@sunflowerz54]

Still her behavior isn’t one of a grieving parent?

[@rogermansour6085]

Praise God Patricia was finally found not guilty. Incredible investigation by forensic investigators, scientist, doctors, lawyers ect. Evangelist Roger Mansour

[@leigha2814]

In 1994, after Patricia was exonerated, she donated money to McElroy's opposition and in response he tried to defame her again. Dude was a crook. Poor baby DJ died at 23 in 2013. RIP little hero.

[@jeromefitzroy]

We have a bottle of whiskey in the pharmacy cabinet, I asked why once years ago, my attending said it was an emergency antidote to ethylene glycol and methanol

[@PiraticOctopus]

I work at a vet clinic and same. At first I thought the answer for its use was a joke!

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

Yup, and DT's! Don't forget the drunks.

[@pauloantunes8372]

It’s refreshing to know that there are prosecutors out there like Mr. Applebaum who are willing to put his ego and professional ambitions aside for the sake of justice. Well done. This poor poor woman, just an absolute horror show, she’s been put through.

[@gionee7035]

best best crime show for ever👍

[@HigherLearning222]

By far.

[@TimDawson-c5h]

magnificent episode of Forensic Files let's hope the mix up does not occur again anywhere in the world, God bless Ryan and the correct treatment is given to a baby

[@vycma9941]

The level of incompetence by the initial treatment staff, they are the ones responsible for the death. Where’s the prosecution!?

[@atuchukwuazubike5672]

This is so so sad ... Imagine she got a death sentence and was murdered by the State because some incompetent idiots couldnt do their job . Terrible Unbelievably terrible

[@Ze_Moose]

That's so true my African brother

[@enricapeters171]

Incredible story

[@zuzellogan5613]

Some time ago, I had routine blood work, and when my doctor received the results, she told me to take a medicine since something in my body was high (I can’t remember now what it was). Then she ordered the same test again, and it came back normal. To begin with, I didn’t take the medicine she prescribed because of the first results! Had I had taken that prescription medication, I would have been in real trouble now. So, that said, I listen to my body, I don’t listen to what any doctor has to say. They can say anything but I AM THE ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS MY BODY WELL SINCE I OWN IT, they do not. This episode is an eye opener to be very careful about “commercial laboratories” they can make big mistakes as they did in this episode and with me. ALWAYS LISTEN TO YOUR BODY, and your gut instinct, most of the time it is right.

[@waynejohn1160]

The real meaning of DJ Is Deliverance and Justice 🤔 ✔️🇯🇲😎 Yeah mon!

[@justjonni9330]

I'm from St. Louis and this is why we don't take our children to Cardinal Gleenon's Hospital… Children's Hospital is less than a mile past there!!!

[@JohnMiller-oz7gv]

Wow, that was a good one.

[@maka1685]

Gees the pain and stress that mummy went through is atrocious!

[@virg0_lem0nade]

Looks like they included the wrong photo for this episode??

[@philthomas8351]

I can see by the second doctor that the graphs do not match up. Was everybody not wearing their glasses in the courtroom the days of the trial?

[@chrthdestr]

I feel like some very obvious signs were missed just to rush the case. Lack of reason to kill the child, repeatedly bringing him to medical care as opposed to setting up a babysitting scenario with the poison. The list goes on. Small details matter.

[@ismrph]

What if she didn’t get pregnant with her second child? She’s gonna spend her whole life inside the prison for something she didn’t do..

[@PreciousPask82]

She still didn't give a damn that he died

[@theproagentteam-bronwynsco5345]

If she did go to the hospital with the baby shows you that she cares. Otherwise she would have not gone to hospital.

[@anaderol5408]

Sadly that's not the case - there have been mothers that have sought medical attention for their child for injuries that the mothers themselves caused. It's referred to as Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy - look up Lacey Spears - she's an example and by no means the only one.

[@Sephiroth766]

@@anaderol5408 the episode broken bonds is about that as well

[@jaydenart9259]

Exactly

[@elizabethsalvatore1633]

WOW! So glad she got out.

[@pillettadoinswartsh4974]

Now explain why she didn't give a shit about her baby dying.

[@katkoot924]

Such a miracle

[@Memg007]

Thank you Jesus for helping this woman!! ❤

[@DylanDkoh]

She was imprisoned because she was poor. Too poor to hire a proper lawyer to, too poor to care for her other child. Too poor to get help

[@athena8729]

God is so Good. Hallelujah the Truth came out do to His Mercy

[@anthonymaserati3651]

I’m still confused , why did she react so poorly to her baby dying tho smh

[@cr-qo3ov]

No her being pregnant with her other child is ultimately what freed her and when that child had the same symptoms when not in her care and then was properly diagnosed

[@iloveu2273]

What I don’t understand is the presence of glycol inside the milk bottle . The soap used to wash the milk bottle had glycol ?

[@makenziecely]

That is the one aspect of this case I genuinely do not understand. Not only did they find the substance in her specific bottle, but they also stated (after a period of notable improvement in the baby’s health) three days after her supervised visit, the baby was admitted to the hospital with alarmingly high levels of ethylene glycol in their blood.

[@Prescilla_Halliwell]

I was also wondering about this. No one even tried to find the answer to that baby bottle. And why after doing so well in the care of the social workers, Ryan was deathly ill when the social worker left for a few minutes. And is her first child sick too? The one who was cared for by the aunt.

[@8luvbug]

Don't forget a nurse claim to have heard her on the phone saying she didn't care that her baby died