MPi-81: Steyr Basically Makes the Uzi

[@J.DeLaPoer]

I remember ads for semi-auto conversions of these for $25, along with $10 Mosins and $40 FALs (among many other incredible things). How I kick myself for not buying everything up by the carload back then. Never get too complacent that the common/cheap stuff now will always remain common or cheap. Or legal...

[@kylewhite8434]

Jesus Christ how old are you? You probably remember getting a brand new Mustang for less then 10k.

[@Jakezillagfw]

@@kylewhite8434 😂

[@ExUSSailor]

I bought my Yugo M59/66 SKS for $95 only about 20 years ago. Now, examples, in the same condition, are selling for $400 - $500. The price increased THAT much in just 20 years, which is nothing, so, you should definitely pay attention to what he has to say!

[@peterd9940]

Me too

[@someguy5444]

Id do some really nasty stuff (purely sexual in nature and most outrageous) for a FAL under 800$ 😂

[@frenchfrey65]

There's something about cold war SMG's that are so fascinating to me because of how cheap they look yet they're so reliable and do the exact job they're meant to do, guns of WW2 would be made of mostly wood, modern guns today are mostly made of plastic/polymer, but Cold War? All metal baby!

[@gingergorilla695]

Honestly some of the sexiest beasts in the world. The SITES Spectre is a personal favorite

[@agoogleaccount2861]

Ww2 was the "all metal era ". Sten. M3A1 etc .. Cold war was the metal with plastic handles era but with "atomic age" design aesthetics tbh I like the steyers takedown better

[@lukaszpokoju]

Yes SITES Spectre m4 , Walther MPL/MPK, Beretta M12s, MPi 69/81, Karl Gustav M/45, Skorpion Vz.61, Jati-matic, PM-63, Mat-49 ... Good old Cold War era SMG's/Machine-pistols.

[@AsbestosMuffins]

well, cold war smgs specifically were sheet metal wherever possible, polymer where needed after 1970. these were meant to be quality cheap guns

[@JohnHughesChampigny]

"Cold War? All metal baby!" -- you're posting this as a comment on a video about a SMG with a polyner lower?

[@normtrooper4392]

Uzi: "don't copy my homework" Steyr: "yeah sure I just need a quick look"

[@TheArchaos]

History repeating itself, can't keep a good thing down and something-something copying flattery...

[@petergray7576]

Fabricaciones Militaires (Argentina): "That looks cool! Where'd you get that?" Steyr: "Off that Israeli kid. You wanna good look?" FB Radom (Poland): "You're gonna get in so much trouble with the teachers for such blatant copying.... (Steyr and FM look dejected) The trick is to make just enough changes so that any similarities appear coincidental, like this! Minebea (Japan): "Ohhhhhhh!!!" SIMA-CEFAR (Peru): "That's a great idea! Lemme try.... uh oh! Here comes that bunch of Rhodesian and South African delinquents. Careful Uzi, they steal everything they find interesting!" Uzi: "Goddammit! What if I just give out licenses and you pay me royalties?"

[@newdefsys]

Czech Sa vz. 23: "Who in the hell stole my homework ?"

[@petergray7576]

@@newdefsys MCEM-2: "Excuse me! Your homework?!"

[@petergray7576]

Interdynamics MKS: "Hi Guys! It's me your favorite stepson. So ho...." Voice from the back: "Oh Lord he coming!!!!" MKS: "That wasn't very nice!!! I'm one of you!!! Hey don't look at me like I'm disgusting!! DON'T LOOK AT ME THAT WAY!!!!!

[@MyDailyUpload]

I remember seeing these in the hands of the Birmingham, AL police SWAT team in the 1980s. I thought they were Uzis but a more knowledgeable friend educated me on the fact that they were Steyrs. Trussville, AL (Gun South Inc import mark) is close to Birmingham. I always wondered if this had something to do with why Birmingham had these guns.

[@johncox2865]

Having lived in Shelby Co. all my life, this is the first time I have heard of Gun South or of B’ham having these weapons. Live and learn, as they say.

[@owllymannstein7113]

It sounds plausible, Harrisburg PA's police department uses Tavors because IWI is there.

[@Ingsoc75]

Up here in Huntsville, the PD uses space lasers.

[@DB-yj3qc]

@@Ingsoc75 LoL Or the "very effective" Goa'uld weapon the P90.

[@anon_y_mousse]

@@DB-yj3qc You meant anti-Goa'uld, but hell yeah. The P90 is the best!

[@ThatGuy-mw4ol]

It’s the uzi but Austrian so it’s better -steyr CEO

[@bcfuerst]

Well a domestic production has its advantages. Especially as a neutral country.

[@george5156]

One wonders if either has been in an endurance test?

[@bosknight7837]

As much as this is a copy,I do think the improvements it does make are pretty damn nice to have

[@0onpoint]

Love not kosher

[@bulukacarlos4751]

Greetings from Patagonia Argentina. Indeed, the Argentine Navy bought mostly MPi69 and then a few MPi81. Almost all have been provided to "Buzos Tácticos" and "Comandos Anfibios" (the local version of the US SEALs and Marine Recon) It was originally to be the weaponry for taking ships by storm.

[@Mrgunsngear]

Thanks

[@Arnuld15Governator]

As I stated on ther other video, I had the pleasure to shoot this smg as a range rental. It was extremely fun to shoot and the recoil in full auto was very light and manageable. Wish they made these in semi auto from Steyr again.

[@case-oawesome3207]

That's cool. My local gun range also has a rental

[@imyourdaddy5822]

I rented one at a range near my house too, honestly probably the most fun I had in a long time, love the Steyr MPi-81.

[@georgevavoulis4758]

Thank you Ian for making a video of this Steyr MPi81 from Austria .

[@mrenfilade7178]

Neat little slimline SMG, though the selector/safety seems a bit cumbersome. As I recall the original Uzi had a grip safety and the fire selector was completely separate. Pros and cons to both designs. Looks like a lot of fun at the shooting range! Succinct video, Ian. +1 Like

[@Eralen00]

who's gonna use the middle position anyway, just slam it all the way and use the progressive trigger if you need single shots. It would be kinda frustrating though if all of a sudden you were ambushed and needed to get the gun going right away and you accidentally put it on single shot when you thought you had went to full auto, i could see that being a problem in the head of battle. I would have just left out the single shot position entirely if there's already a progressive trigger

[@klaassiersma4892]

FN build and sold a ton of uzi's during that time to the rest of the world, so it's not strange you don't see a lot of these.

[@JenniferinIllinois]

Uzi: Hey, you copied us! Steyr: No we didn't, the stock is different. 🤣🤣🤣

[@KTo288]

No, we both copied CZ

[@lancemurdoc6744]

I know the Uzi from my time with the German "Bundeswehr". This Steyr Version looks 200% better than the original Uzi. By the way, the stock is by far the worst part of the uzi, beside other "flaws". Anyway the Steyr may use identical mechanics but the gun design and ergonimics (by far the most important part for the shooting), are way better on this Austrian Uzi. At least in my opinion.

[@darthhodges]

The other thing the safety notches on the bolt prevent are runaways. Many firearms are (inadvertently) designed such that if the wrong part breaks or (in blowback sub guns like this) if you have the right weak ammo it will go full auto when you don't intend it to and may keep going even if you let off the trigger. That second notch seems placed just right to make runaways impossible.

[@Tunkkis]

Short stroking is what this specific case of runaway is called.

[@franciscofranco5739]

I’m really curious about the Socimi Type 821 and the Minebea PM-9, Italian and Japanese Uzi copies, respectively.

[@agoogleaccount2861]

Hmm never heard of them. Have heard there a bizon copy from s Korea .. and I'd like to see the ukranian fort 230

[@lytho9542]

Another interesting Uzi clones would be the croatian Strojnica ERO or the polish PM98.

[@nicb7350]

Still waiting patiently for Japanese Type 100 SMG video.

[@ekim000]

Ditching the ridiculous sling/charging handle malarkey from the previous version was a substantial improvement IMO.

[@BobWidlefish]

5:00 some times the good idea fairy goes astray.

[@geodkyt]

Such a little thing to improve the MPi69 so much. Now, I realize it's a tiny thing, but you'd think manufacturers would design collapsing stock guns so at least the "collapsed" notch has a bevel on the forward edge so a user could grab a gun collapsed for storage and rip the stock open to a usable length without needing to stop and switch *both* hands to push the "unlock" latch with one hand while you pull the stock with the other. (Yes, the M4 also requires you to push a button while expanding the stock... but the button is *on the stock* under your fingers, so you can keep the firing hand on the grip.)

[@randyfluhart6189]

An easy mod on the MPi69 with some quick file work.

[@alexdemoya2119]

good point and interesting observation

[@johndaniels1197]

Yes. Also, one of the stock rods should be a cleaning rod with either a threaded end or at least a patch loop.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

Why would you have your firing hand on the grip of a gun "in storage"?

[@will3835]

That's my favorite thing about the B&T stocks for HKs. They can do exactly that.

[@cynthiakoehne7004]

LOL I was watching Walker Texas Ranger when you mentioned Chuck Norris, BTW he visited my dojo back in 1978 and tossed us around like rag dolls, very funny stuff, also I too remember the movie scene with him charging the gun using the sling!

[@MrKronikDeception]

Austria: Steyr, können wir eine "Uzi" bekommen? Steyr: nein, wir haben "uzi" zu hause. "Uzi" zu Hause.

[@quatro_quatro]

Erhalte mein “Daumen hoch”!

[@andrewg9216]

Completely unrelated, I've been learning German and was actually able to read your comment in German. So thanks for an excellent comment and a chance to practice.

[@alijankhan3330]

Asche! Zu asche! Und Staub! Zu Staub!

[@quatro_quatro]

@@andrewg9216 the memes. they unite us. 🙏🏼

[@shugo541]

Arguably looks slightly slicker than the uzi

[@bob-wo3ir]

Not at all, looks hideous compared to the original Uzi.

[@TheStygian]

@@bob-wo3ir I think it looks much better than the uzi...

[@shugo541]

@@bob-wo3ir hence: “arguably” Something we could definitely argue about

[@KC-bg1th]

@@bob-wo3ir An AR will always look more slick than an AK, but that doesn't mean the AR always looks better. It's the same reason why classic muscle cars can look better than modern super cars.

[@CSDonohue11]

How do you make an Mac 11 fully ?

[@davidgreen40]

Uzi. Never leave home without one. Steyr. You'll want to take it with you.

[@cjmunnee3356]

Why does the Steyr catchphrase simultaneously sound both more polite and more threatening?

[@george5156]

@@cjmunnee3356 because it's European dude

[@cjmunnee3356]

@@george5156 😂 You're probably right.

[@whitestripe484]

At least it fixes most of ergonomic deficits UZI has. Distracting handle between iron sights that can’t be possibly used without taking your line of sight off target. Big, wonky stock that is bitch to fold/unfold, and would slip off of my shoulder even if it was glued on. Oh and that handgrip is less ergonomic than a coffee machine

[@nickjohnson410]

Chuck Noris does not need a sling, or even a charging handle, to charge a firearm.... He merely has to stare at it... And it charges itself out of fear...

[@thomasvanstraelen5848]

Good thing because he was dual wielding those Micro Uzis and would have had a hard time reloading them otherwise...

[@loupiscanis9449]

Thank you , Ian .

[@johncox2865]

Good work, Ian. Always enjoy your stuff.

[@kiwigrunt330]

That safety/trigger is how the Kiwi Steyr AUG was set up. That, and a crosshair in the donut of death, set it apart from the Aussie and other 'standard' ones. This charging handle (shape, angle and position) is also reminiscent of the AUG.

[@brivas3343]

Had one of these several years ago as a rental on our range. Still have some magazines for it .

[@davidcarr7436]

I guess it must be getting difficult to find classic military firearms; I figure that's why we haven't seen anything from Elbonia for awhile.

[@jacobmccandles1767]

Like an UZI...but more like a square reciever CZ-26.

[@gunguide9201]

This it is a much improved Uzi.

[@papawushutv]

Larry Vickers did a pretty cool video on this one a few years back. Always love Ian's deeper dives though.

[@cbsboyer]

Have you considered doing a "What would have to be wrong with the gun for this movie scene to work" series? Every time you go over the drop safety on any given submachine gun, I keep thinking of the scene in True Lies when the MAC-10 goes bouncing down the stairs and kills everyone. [Edit: Or maybe an "It Doesn't Work That Way" for the million different gun things in movies?]

[@bananieldiamonds1921]

a telescoping bolt is really just an internal slide

[@RichardCranium321]

Talk about "tactile reset".... the thud that trigger makes when resetting needs it's own suppressor 😆

[@andersjjensen]

Iz gut sturdy mechanics! And not lowter than plink from brass on ground!

[@zendell37]

Looks a lot like the colt smg mags as well. So many guns of the time using that same basic magazine with some minor difference. Usually the mag catch, thankfully. Makes converting to what I need so much easier.

[@edwardbarton1680]

I like the [in the '60s] correction in the closed captioning. Today, Glock probably takes the title of "best known Austrian gun manufacturer"

[@robert.grantig1875]

and many belive it is an American company...

[@schiltronmunitions3820]

Nice example. Thanks, Ian!

[@chspg_alvis]

When Uzi and the Mac platforms make a child.

[@BoomerTactical]

I forgot you did this one. Hope all is well!

[@ArsonFire00]

This video will make for a great weekend drinking game. Every time Ian says Uzi, drink a shot.

[@quiettime6871]

So drunk

[@george5156]

Come on, I have to cut the grass in the morning, before it gets unbearable!

[@jeffreysargent9363]

The way you pull the bolt out remind me of a stapel gun

[@marvindebot3264]

How quick and simple is the field strip? Depress one catch and remove one part.

[@caeserromero3013]

It's a Duzi 😂

[@KuruGDI]

For the pronunciation of Steyr-Daimler-Puch AG: *- Steyr:* Like "Wire" but with a hard ST at the beginning *- Daimler:* Like "die" adding the rest of the name *- Puch:* Ian said it more like "push". I can't think of a good one here. Do you know Achmet the dead terrorist where he says "It's aCHmed not aKnet". That how you say CH. You almost sound like an angry cat. *- AG:* _Aktien Gesellschaft_ word by word Stock Society (GB: public limited company, US: stock corporation)

[@rockystewart3297]

It's CRAW!!! Not Craw!!! (Can't remember the name of the movie but that line was from the Chinese bad guy who called himself The Claw).

[@mikebillman8089]

Appears to be an improved Uzi.

[@neko9x19mm8]

MPi-81 looks like IWI Uzi that has the Glock type of minimalistic design

[@juliancantarelli]

Last night i dream I was walking around with Prince Charles and he was holding a FAL I think, and I recommend him your channel, and he told me that he knew it.

[@jonathanlunger2775]

I love steyrs progressive trigger use. Wish they were more common

[@diligentone-six2688]

Steyr: Hey can I copy your homework? Uziel Gal: Sure, just don't make it look obvious. Steyr's Homework:

[@parrotraiser6541]

When someone else has a really good idea with no legal moats around it, adopting it makes a lot more sense than a Not-Invented-Here attitude.

[@zanaduz2018]

Uzi nine milli-meetah

[@promiscuous5761]

Thank you.

[@jamesfisher9594]

Steyr: You made this? I made this.

[@fg42t2]

The first ones of these were sold by LES arms of Skokie ILL. the makers of the very dangerous ( the firing pin can blow out the back) LES P 18 pistol.

[@marvindebot3264]

Baker Arms fixed it later but yeah, the early P18 had one heck of an issue.

[@rexxsimba]

I love the simplicity of this weapon ... I still think it can vastly improve with just a few cheap simple tweaks ...( .... a better barrel , sights , rails and simpler , lighter construction ..) Police , paramilitary and close protection functions better than pistols .. 🤗👌

[@theacme3]

The issue with "bolt bounce" is not so much that when it falls on the back it can shoot unintentionally. The problem is more likey when you want to charge the gun, you pull back but right before you reach the seer, you slip and let go stripping a round and shoot. There is a video of Ian playing with a submachinegun where exactly this happens (without a round obviously). Ian pulls back, it slips and bolt slams forward. If there is a round it the mag, it might shoot. you charge a gun way more often then your gun falls really heavily on its backside.

[@obiwankenobi2749]

The loveland police department has a ton of those things. They dont use them anymore, but they still have a significant amount remaining from back when they did

[@Steve.Cutler]

Another informative video, thanks bud.

[@onpsxmember]

But didn't they improve the safety with the second sear engagement on the i-69 model before Uzi changed it with the ratchet cover?

[@Pluap]

Great video as always Ian, btw if you want to improve your German pronunciation, Puch has a soft ch and not an sch, which sounds similar to the sound an angry cat makes.

[@gohunt001-5]

so more like, pooh?

[@GaldirEonai]

@@gohunt001-5 No, it's a sound that doesn't really exist in standard english although scottish "loch" comes close.

[@daqpanda]

Would it rhyme with book? I have a moped made by Puch, and I was told it rhymes with book.

[@GaldirEonai]

@@daqpanda No, it rhymes with the german word though ("Buch"). Well, sort of. The "u" in Puch is short, the one in "Buch" is longer. Yes, they're written completely the same and there is absolutely no indicator for the different pronunciation. Isn't language fun? Again, there really is no equivalent to the german -ch sound in english outside of certain regional dialects.

[@martinpollak7039]

Just ask Google translate:)

[@TheBearInTheChair]

" Excuse me, is that a Uzi? "

[@davidhague7184]

Really neat historical weapon

[@MatoVuc]

We have the same progressive trigger with a semi-auto block on the VHS-1 and VHS-2 rifle... It sucks for full auto, but the short pull and very definite stop on semi is actually nice to use

[@jasonbernard4879]

I recall a ad in SWAT magazine about 1990 something where you could order these for 250.00 if you were a police department.

[@johnabbott3896]

@ J. De la Poer....LOL....and not picking up muscle cars by the truck load during the 70's Arab Oil Embargo.... where did I put my crystal ball...?

[@holgerchristiansen4003]

9:47 it is not "Poosh" but a combination of "push" and "loch" (as in Loch Ness) :)

[@HQ_Default]

Uzi: "Who are you?" MPi: "I am you, but t h i n"

[@henkormel5610]

Ian, a litle remark on the markings. AG does not mean Austria or Östenreich as it is writen in German. AG means Aktien Gesellschaft, this loosly translates as a collection of resources and/or people. It is used in the same way as the English LTD. The Puch in Steyr-Puch is not pronounced as push, i don't know how to explain it better. I am not a native Enlish speaker or even a native German speaker. I live in between, in the Netherlands. I do like your vids.

[@genghiskhan6809]

Imagine if Glock made their own copy of the uzi.

[@thomasmenard1799]

Of course again the gun store i go to the most and i managed to miss you ha ha.

[@thechryslercrew9417]

Steyr Puch’s Mopeds had an advertisement in the 70’s- “Puch rhymes with Book”. I’m sure it applies to their guns too

[@leoa4c]

Is that amount of mass behind the bolt face really necessary? By moving mass to the forward part of the bolt, the entire package could be more compact. I wonder if just 2cm on the rear portion of the bolt would be safe and sufficient.

[@cmdrcriton]

Always wanted one of these ever since I saw it in a PUNISHER comic book.

[@milesipka]

Ah, the "Operation Body Count Uzi", nice gun if you want to take down some video game terrorists. Also, a nice burn on those Glock-heads at 10:33.

[@gypsonny2]

Steyr nailed it with the subsequent SPP/TMP platform. They fell short however by not innovating a collapse/folding stock which led to its downfall. B&T picked up the slack on those shortcomings. I own one of 1000 SPP's the US imported and I love it. With all that said I do prefer the sling braced design over a stock/brace, but that's just me 🍵

[@marvindebot3264]

How neat and easy is that field strip? What a nice little SMG, I think I prefer it to the Uzi.

[@thelegendaryklobb2879]

So this is the famed "Oo-zeeh, nein millimeetah" that Arnie was talking about

[@Florkl]

I now really want to see someone try to charge a gun with a sling

[@DANO-4899]

Looks like an Uzi on a low carb diet.

[@lhmmhl1]

YOBA!

[@terry7907]

You are very much mistaken about Saudi Arabia not being a large market for small arms. Between internal Shi’a unrest, terrorist attacks, instability in Yemen, and border disputes with Qatar, Oman, and Yemen it is a heavily armed country, with three separate major security forces-MODA (ministry of defense and aviation), SANG (Saudi Arabian National Guard) and ministry of interior.

[@donwyoming1936]

An elegant weapon, for a more civilized time.

[@rexxsimba]

I hope some gunsmith tweaks this gun .... Better sights , body , charging handle , 14inch barrel , integral suppressor and improved stock .. I love the simplified Fire Selector ...🤗🤗👌

[@joshawageorge2122]

All they have to do is chamber that uzi for the 22 tcm .this would speed up the cycling and help the trajectory and might be easier to control the to lighter bullets. Lol you asked the platforms are very similar

[@marlboro9tibike]

Chinese: write that down! write that down!

[@merlemorrison482]

how did prices compare with the uzi?

[@munanchoinc]

Basically the UZI but the Level of Detail slider went all the way down.

[@TheArchaos]

How to improve the UZI? Give it a top-folding stock and cut a whole where the ejection port is, done.

[@vibeslide]

Weeee, smart-ass time! The "ch" in Steyr-Daimler-Puch is pronounced like the "j" in "cojones" in it's original spanish form. This, however, is not the only possible pronounciation of "ch" in german, so don't get to excited.

[@ES90344]

It's more like poo-k with a hard K like puck.

[@vibeslide]

@@ES90344 No, it isn't. Search for "Steyr Daimler Puch" here on YT. You'll find a several hours long image film from the 80's. At 0:30 and certainly many more times throughout the video you hear the name spoken not only by a native speaker but also by one acting on behalf of the company.

[@ES90344]

That's how I heard it pronounced when I went to school in Austria.

[@doingstuffdownunder8208]

Your title is basically the opposite of clickbait

[@flyboymike111357]

I saw a Brazilian police confiscation of what they were calling an Uru, but it looked like a tubular Uzi. I'm thinking they were saying the internals were as simple and brilliant as an Uru. Have you come across anything like a pistolized Uru?

[@spinn231]

Will there be a film about PM 84 Glauberyt ?

[@lilqueso8190]

I believe that some guards that work at NERV headquaters

[@theodoreheintz7891]

Is the semi-auto position really truly a semi-auto position or is it a lockout of the full auto function of the progressive trigger? I ask because the Indonesian or Malaysian milsurp parts kits have a three position safety with the middle position being a full auto lockout.

[@specialk5070]

Heavy but great to shoot 👍 again great with bong tokes

[@sebastianwardana1527]

whoah dude... you got long range fighter one... theres a short range one too...

[@rexxsimba]

Has anyone upgraded or updated this gun ...???

[@kurtgodel5236]

9:48 Puch; _ch_ as in the Scottish _Loch._ No "s".

[@martingardener90]

Maybe the Terminator should have went for one of these but Steyr MPi 81 doesn't have the same ring to it as Uzi 9mm!

[@thezieg]

Sorry, Ian, but you missed a major user of this weapon in the 1980s: In middle school we played a TSR tabletop role playing game called Top Secret in which my private intelligence agency was widely equipped with the Steyr MP-81 and GB. I think we bankrolled Steyr for a long time!

[@Hiihtopipa]

Who the fuck would know that?

[@igrim4777]

@@Hiihtopipa woosh

[@thezieg]

@@Hiihtopipa well no one, obviously. It wasn't a very funny joke but I'm guessing humor is a new concept to you. Or should I have translated to Suomalainen?

[@kindermord]

That’s a shame. He should definitely do an episode on the agency. [80s RPG bro fist bump]

[@andersjjensen]

I thought it was a funny joke! Also, Top Secret was the bomb! :D

[@5anjuro]

More like Steyr-Daimler-Pooh.. ))

[@chzzyg2698]

This thing is cooler than the Uzi.