Forward control to Mid Control Conversion (Dyna)

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[@chrisoneall4100]

Can we get a parts list. Iys hard to follow the video for the part number's

[@mmarlow6697]

Well done, great video!! One of the easiest to follow and understand I’ve come across. Looking forward to more…

[@dylanmarshall7306]

Did this install on the weekend! Video was awesome man, I’m sure i speak for everyone but thank you!!

[@dynademos]

Glad it helped u homie

[@Outside_Easy]

Used this video as a guideline years ago on my first dyna. Lego followed the HD service manual to a T on this. Killed it!

[@jonnymac8925]

Swapped my forwards out for mids on my 2018 forty eight and I absolutely love the change it made on the bike! Night and day and so much easier than on the Dyna since they are routed the other way. No removing primary covers or draining oil involved. I had to remove the front cylinder header off my 2-1 to get it attached to the frame but that was the hardest part which was 2 bolts and some muscle haha

[@dynademos]

I blame Harley engineers🤷🏽‍♂️

[@timbutler3213]

I'm seriously impressed you know how to do all that. I had NO idea it was that entailed...that's a lot of work to go from forward to mid controls...but good job. Impressive.

[@dynademos]

Thankyou sir all of of this is in the manual we did fill in some blanks but we are visual people so we try to help dudes out with tutorials 👍🏽

[@paulg5835]

Great video. You’re always super thorough and easy to follow.

[@dynademos]

Glad we could help!

[@johncolburn4353]

Great video. It was done straight forward like a PMI. Made me remember the old days of being a young a leather at club two 9 lol

[@lordtuscaskyp]

Thank you, im gona do the same on my street bob! Cheers from Portugal

[@davegwinn3770]

Just picked up a 2001 FXD. This is gonna be the first project I do. Your video was VERY helpful to show me what I am dealing with. You have given me the confidence to do this project myself. Well done!

[@dynademos]

Glad we could help!

[@CanadianTopG]

Did you end up changing over to mids?

[@taebert]

Very thorough and informative. Thank you for sharing this with us.

[@dynademos]

Thankyou!

[@bootszilla24]

I plan on doing forward to mid gears waiting for peg mounts. 2017 Dyna and is now an antique they had to order parts hope its as simple as you made it look

[@kleptik117]

would've took me about 4x as long to do this job without your vid, thanks so much bro

[@boxcarbro3043]

So happy you posted this. I've been searching for this.

[@dynademos]

Hopefully this makes it easier👌🏽

[@boxcarbro3043]

@@dynademos yo. So I took my time with this. Did it with my manual and your instruction. As far as I can tell, I did everything right. But the bike will not start. It will crank. But just backfires and makes a sound like its releasing air or pressure. What Im wondering and maybe this will be too difficult to answer through here. I did notice a hissing sound when I was both breaking torque and re torqing the compensator bolt... is that normal? Other wise im moving to looking for an electrical problem. Its just everything ran fine before I started doing this. The only thing I changed was better ignition cables and plugs. But I put on the old cables and didnt change anything.

[@boxcarbro3043]

@dynademos my ignition cables were backwards. Lol Started right up...

[@jhamilton968]

great detailed video. you guys are doing a great job with the videos.

[@dynademos]

Thanks trying to help dudes out

[@im4dice]

Thanks heaps for the video, made the job easy. Only note is my Australian 2015 streetbob had a T70 torx bolt holding the compensator rather than the hex in this video.

[@dynademos]

Ahh slight difference hopefully still helps you!

[@stevereckert208]

This will be my winter project. Thanks for the video. 🤙

[@dynademos]

Good luck dog

[@westcoastrippin]

Legos Chop Shop 👏 Sick man! I need to drop by soon! Great video!

[@traveller1973]

Good work. Thank you for the demos.

[@dynademos]

Thankyou for watching!

[@jasonsturmer8666]

Great video! Keep 'em poppin'!

[@georgekalioras2618]

Bro that’s pretty awesome you Hooked him up like that. I liked the video right when you said that

[@dynademos]

Thanks man we’re all about helping normal dudes out that’s why we started the channel👌🏽

[@morals57]

Great video! Very informative.

[@1luckyleppy]

Thanks for the video. Nicely done

[@gabrieldompierre6797]

Loved to have this video when I did mine. 2 littles tips for you guys doing it. Most on torque wrench doesn't work on reverse setting. Be careful to not overtight like I did. And make sure the chain doesnt touch the border of the inner primary when you torque it because you're gonna dent the lip and there's risk of leak. English is not my first language my bad

[@dynademos]

Thanks for the tips ✊🏽

[@TravelingVine]

Great vid, super informative, thanks from Siem Reap Cambodia 🇰🇭

[@dynademos]

Scott McNeil thanks for the support!

[@deantaylor1512]

Too job and very handy to keep for future reference… I really need to get the inner primary out to paint /powder coat her up .. to many British winters I’m afraid..

[@mikeburton1703]

you are doing a great job...cause i will be doing the swap sometime later

[@dynademos]

Thankyou!

[@stanyuhas2060]

Great video, easy to follow and understand.

[@dynademos]

Thankyou!

[@gagekehn7920]

this is great love it cant wait to tackle this i just picked up an 04 dyna FXD making some changes and this is top on the list thank you thank you also do you have a video on double front rotor install or drilling stock 04 triple tree to change to a bottom mount headlight?

[@dynademos]

We do not I’ve seen in forums people talking about drilling it or completely change it out if u do it let me know how it goes glad we could help we got a lot more installs though for some stuff u might be interested in

[@dscrib6205]

Great detailed instructions, thank you

[@dynademos]

Glad it helped!

[@adamhill2788]

I followed this step by step and turned out 💯 GREAT VIDEO !🤘🛵

[@dynademos]

🤜🏽🤛🏽

[@manueldelacoba8623]

Very good video. I have not seen any KZbin video doing this job from start to finish. Keep Up the good work

[@dynademos]

manuel de la coba that’s why I did it 😬

[@noahpaul7491]

Great videos guys!!

[@RidinDad]

Nice install man!

[@ianberry5879]

Thanks for the comprehensive video. I like forwards but even with the reduced reach brackets I made, I can't get truly comfortable on my 2015 Wide Glide like I do my old Deuce. I'll be undertaking this project soon.

[@dynademos]

Heck yeah dude hope it goes well !

[@ianberry5879]

Thanks to your video, I'm pretty confident in my abilities to do it right. Message boards and online forums just can't come close to a well made video explaining a mechanical project. It's either mid conversion, or a Rekluse clutch and a jockey shifter with mid mounts but no shifter on the foot controls, probably the former since I am trying to get this done by the end of June in time for a long trip.

[@juliobaez699]

I really enjoyed the video. Thanks

[@dynademos]

Julio Baez glad u enjoyed 👍🏽

[@jeremyswaney4193]

Great vid. Thanks for the upload.

[@dynademos]

🤜🏽🤛🏽

[@FatandFuriousOne]

Great Vlog, I didn't see a parts list, do you have a list of all the parts used in the swap?

[@jbflyfishingjbflyfishing4068]

Another great video. quick question ? Is it the same process for older Dyna’s I’ve got a 94 wide glide? Your video was the fist to pop up the bike is new to me

[@benaberhart1925]

Awesome video, exactly what I was looking for. Do you know the dimensions of the gear shifter levers ? I don’t know if the longer one was used on my bike when swapping out and don’t want to buy one if I don’t have to.

[@jccccc4065]

Just completed this last weekend. I recommend putting some anti seize on the ends of the shifter shafts.

[@dynademos]

Thanks for the recommendation 👌🏽

[@bryandodge1713]

Just completed my first time doing this swap on my 07 fxd in about 5 hours. Thanks alot for the video you really are a life saver. Straight to the point and correct info.

[@dynademos]

Glad it made it easy 👍🏽

[@bryandodge1713]

@@dynademos hey man so I put my linkage and shifter on and it seems like my shift shaft is too tight in the casing because it doesn’t retract back on its own when you shift it

[@dynademos]

@@bryandodge1713 it’ll wear over time dude just keep cycling it or u could try a bit of lube

[@bryandodge1713]

@@dynademos she’s probably just a mid control virgin

[@dynademos]

@@bryandodge1713 bahahahhhh

[@jonathanreilly6741]

Man. SUPER helpful video dude. One question I do have is the kit I purchased from HD containing all the replacement gaskets came with 3 black o rings that seem like they were meant for the shifter shaft. I didn’t end up using them but DID have the tower gasket that I placed between the two primary’s. Did I need to use those 3 o rings or is the tower gasket enough? Thanks again man! Jonny

[@mitchwittman4856]

Solid instructions

[@Torch114]

Great video! I was wondering if this would work on a 2016 dyna switchback as well with forwards?

[@caseycarey5445]

Great video thanks! It helped me do the swap on my 2012 fat bob

[@dynademos]

Casey Carey hell yeah

[@fivespeed3026]

Did you have to buy a new outer primary cover? My Fat Bob doesn’t have a hole for mid controls.

[@caseycarey5445]

@@fivespeed3026 I had to get a inner and outer primary for it to work.

[@nebulonv6015]

WOW. This video was EXACTLY what I needed, and it's amazingly detailed and concise. Thanks SO much for posting this. One word of advice: You may want to rename this video, I know that I had a hard time finding it... was searching for "forward control to mid control dyna"... so you may get some more hits if you throw the words "forward control" in that title. Just my $.02 which may help you out! :D Thanks again for this amazing video. Spot on!

[@dynademos]

Thanks for the advice I added it in👍🏽

[@user-zx7eo7nu4b]

Great video,worst thing I ever did was put forward controls on a 120 hp bike. Oh, No one saw you pull the entire clutch hub or the compensator assembly lol..

[@davidgriego8722]

Nice video. Thanks

[@thakery5720]

I highly recommend replacing the primary chain adjuster while you are in there - the factory one causes problems over-tightening the chain - this can cause premature bearing failures ( the trans main bearing is a real pain to do), cause the splines to break in the clutch hub and hard shifting. There are several different ones on the market, some are spring loaded ( Hayden M8 etc) but do not 'ratchet-up' and over-tighten and some are manual adjustment. Manual adjustment are a bit of a pain (but handle serious power upgrades much better) as you have to take the cover off to adjust them. It is a good idea to have the chain adjusted to the higher (looser) 'free-play' figure on very high power motors as the clutch gets hot and expands thereby temporarily tightening the chain. BTW, those 'Allen key bolts' are actually called cap-head screws and the 'gaskets' on the starter motor, inner chain case cover for the mainsheet and inner primary bolts are called seals. It is a good idea to cover the trans mainshaft splines with tape so as not to damage the oil seal when re-fitting the inner primary.

[@dynademos]

Thakery good tips I’ll remember that next time

[@rileyhicks8421]

Hey bro! Great video! Can you help me with the part number for those one time use bolts and the small o ring. I can't find them in the schematic. Please help! Thank you!!

[@RomeoWhiskeyLima]

Nice video. Not trying to crap on your work just offering a suggestion. Jim's Primary locking bar is a better alternative to putting 175 pound-feet of tension on your primary chain. The locking bar isolates the chain. YMMV.

[@dynademos]

RW Long it’s appreciated someone else mentioned it I have that tool now not Jim’s but another brand same thing not worried about the chain tension as much as damaging the primary my bikes at 17k now so I’ve road it over 12k no probs but Thankyou

[@KCRose56]

I'm a new subscriber and I've been binge watching your videos. My Dyna is a 1996 FXDS that used to have mid-controls. I'm lucky because it already has all the parts that you installed when you pulled the primary cover. All I need are the shifter and brake levers and the foot rest mounts. Are those Harley parts? I haven't found any aftermarket mounts.

[@dynademos]

Everything but the mid linkage and pegs can be bought via harley Thankyou for the support let me know if u got more questions

[@sidneyupton2873]

great job

[@hanleydaleson954]

New to the channel and appreciate what u guys are doing... can u do an install video on how you did the 6 in light bar? Thanks!!

[@dynademos]

i would but i removed it maybe in the future

[@grahnens]

So fantastic good information!!

[@dynademos]

Thankyou trying to share it

[@grahnens]

@@dynademos I bought my first Harley. Superglide 2008. I have short leggs so need "mid control". Thanks to Your video i think I can do it my self! Thomas Sweden

[@alexalday1750]

Tackling this in few days. Thanks for the guidance. Clearly Marine corps air wing. Haha.

[@dynademos]

Idk how I never seen this but hell yeah lol just read the pubs 😉😂

[@dillon275]

Hey, thanks a lot for the video. So we got everything put back together and my shifter is not rebounding when I downshift. Any idea what it could be?

[@welderup6669]

GR8 VIDEO THANKZZZ FOR SHARING!!!!

[@dynademos]

Fo sho!

[@CarlosMendez-fn1zt]

Great job

[@TryItWithTim]

sick ass bike bro and very good vid

[@dynademos]

Thankyou!

[@timdriver5418]

Very helpful

[@abaddonelebravo2167]

first bike 2008 street bob, Great video! searching for parts now!!

[@dynademos]

Hell yeah bro shoot us a dm on insta we have a viewer made list

[@abaddonelebravo2167]

@@dynademos making a insta so i can check yall out, most descriptive youtube video MUCH appreciated

[@dynademos]

@@abaddonelebravo2167 Thankyou 👍🏽

[@denisrichardson916]

Fantastic thanks pal

[@dynademos]

Thanks for watching

[@spoads8619]

Thanks man much appreciated 🤙🏽

[@dynademos]

Spoads 86 always! People love your bike

[@spoads8619]

dynademos nice we will have to bring it back on the channel for a few more upgrades. 👊🏼

[@dynademos]

Spoads 86 always down

[@ibcruz25]

Good work man great vid .what headlight is that guy running I need one .keep up the good vids

[@dynademos]

ibcruz25 honestly I don’t remember what light he was running it was a 7in though

[@ibcruz25]

dynademos oh man all good brother.thanks for the reply

[@goosenek8919]

Mean video. You guys are so lucky to have the ability to get aftermarket parts. It costs more to ship here than the actual part costs.

[@dynademos]

Sorry man if it makes u feel any better lead time for parts right now sucks

[@youngs141]

Hello 👋 great 👍 video man I have a set of mid controls for my 08 dyna street bob coming this weekend. This video helps out a lot I am going from forward to mids as well. Quick question so for the shift leveler only seal u use is the inner seal ? That’s what I seen on the video unless I missed something. Thanks 🙏 for the help

[@dynademos]

ivan sanchez yes the tower gasket

[@abaddonelebravo2167]

i have the same year street bob, waiting for my mid controls to come in from TC Bros, were you able to switch? how was it?

[@juliobaez699]

Safety precaution REMOVE MAXI FUSE before messing around in the primary to prevent injury. Just thought I’d add this important information

[@dynademos]

Julio Baez good tip I’ll do that next time

[@gagegauchat6353]

Tough chance I'll get a response on a 2 year old video but I'll give it a shot. Do you have the part number for the tower gasket you were talking about? Throne that blocks the shifter shaft from leaking between the primary.

[@pablo6305]

I got 2010 sportster 1200 im putting mid controls on mine hope this is same set up. Thanks.

[@nathanlaidler9606]

Awesome tutorial! What brake rod did you use? I didn’t see you show which one you bought.

[@dynademos]

There are only 2 one for fwds and one for mids I’m sorry idk the part number off the top of my head

[@squidy7175]

Is it possible for you to list all the parts you used. I have an 04 dyna that didn’t come stock with mids/ had the capability to have it

[@Robertwilliams-ql2qq]

Is there a bushing between the primary cover and the shift lever

[@skydivemogi]

Love the vid! You've been a life saver! I'm currently working on my 2015 FXDB Street Bob. My father and I have come to a problem tho. The shifter shaft was moving nice and easy before we put on the outer primary. When we put the outer primary on, we noticed that the shifter shift was SUPER stuff and took a lot of force from our hands to move it back and forth. Is this normal? We don't want to fill it up with oil and everything if it's not. Thanks!

[@dynademos]

I’ve ran into that and I think the shifter just needed to wear a lil but eventually it loosened up u can try to lube it see if that Helps

[@skydivemogi]

Thanks, bro! We did just that and it moved a lot better. 🫡

[@abbesire3264]

This channel is too underrated

[@dynademos]

We have way more dudes hit us up on insta with questions think it’s cause they don’t wanna get blasted in the comments hahaha I get it but Thankyou!

[@spirosrnw274]

How did you open the middle hole of the outer driver? Do I have to change the outer driver?

[@josephr6174]

Do you have links for the gaskets and bolts you replaced?

[@jpankratz763]

You talked about be able to push your mid mount forward a inch or 2. How do i do that? Im not wanting to go with forward controls cause thats to much.

[@peterheinz2161]

Dope! Greets from Germany.

[@dynademos]

Peter Heinz hello hope all is well!

[@wooksythewookie9832]

Would the process be the same for a HD Sporty?

[@garetharding1941]

What mid control mounts did you go with? Harley?

[@christopherdunn7757]

Awesome!!

[@JimHancock]

break loose, loosen, "breakaway torque" as a measurement, are common terms..... in my circles anyway... (I'm a photographer LOL) but in my first life I was a mechanical designer... and I have never heard the term "break torque" used as a verb..... it's a perfectly fine term... logical... and perhaps a common term in a mechanics world... I've never heard it used... but the next time I go to loosen lug nuts or similar, I'm going to break torque on each and every one before I loosen them, carry on, nice video.... :)

[@dynademos]

Very common in our world atleast 🤷🏽‍♂️😂

[@seancaron3323]

Back to the basics👌🏼👌🏼🤘🏼

[@dynademos]

Sean Caron so easy a marine can do it

[@seancaron3323]

dynademos err 😂😂

[@DYNADOGG]

dope video boys, because of it im gonna save alot of money! hey if my factory service manual calls for 140 ft-lbs of torque on the compensator bolt should i stick with that or go 175? any help will be appreciated!

[@dynademos]

Go with the manual 👍🏽 good luck dude !

[@DYNADOGG]

@@dynademos thank you both, and ok awesome will do bro! 💯🤘🏻

[@Rambolishus]

So the shift rod to size down, what is recomendable?

[@jamescoppola5545]

Yo we need reviews on all the new shit you’ve guys done to your bikes. I see them TBR and HPI pipes on insta wanna see videos on them specifically

[@dynademos]

James Coppola so many vids so little time

[@YungRasteezy]

Can we get the parts list? There's no links on the description of video..

[@robftz]

Nice Video..What year is your bike ? also I dig that headlight what is it..?....Thanks Rob

[@dynademos]

This was a viewers bike that reached out when I asked if anyone needed it done so I could make a video not sure on the model anymore

[@dilipselvam2688]

Hey bro ... Thanks for the video ..am gonna buy a 2012 Street bob and want to install a mid control..pls Lemme know what the cost of the spares ..am from India

[@KosherDyl]

Hey man. Apologies for commenting on an old video. Just curious where you got that (what I’m assuming is-) Harley vinyl decal on your tank. AIA if it’s painted on there! Great video by the way!

[@dynademos]

Hey bro this was a viewers bike that was brought in not sure where he got the decals although I know apt of decals can be purchased from ebay

[@jakobreed6090]

Hey I want to do this to a 1995 do they make mids for that year.

[@kurtisroberts8485]

How much did all the parts cost for this?

[@RoyaEnfieldBSAman]

Hi. Where did you get the kit from?

[@adamhill2788]

My 09' gxd has mid controls from previous dipshit...I have the silver plug in outer primary and inner is same as this video's too..is there inner/outer plugs that pop out or how do I make way for the new shift shaft going thru both primary's ?! Thnx man great video ! I'm a welder n not a Harley mechanic an this gave me confidence!

[@chevylover1992]

Was there a plug in the shift shaft hole in the inner primary? Or did you have to drill out the hole? Awesome video.

[@dynademos]

MyNameIsJesse yeah it’s just a plug I pushed it out I wouldn’t recommend drilling a hole if it’s even possible

[@chevylover1992]

dynademos this was my assumption. I just wanted to clarify. Thanks for the reply!

[@alexmedina3307]

Awesome video. Super informative and well explained. I'm about to try this myself, but I cannot find a tower gasket for the life of me. Could you tell me where you guys got it from?

[@dynademos]

Harley has them! And Thankyou

[@alexmedina3307]

@@dynademos Still responding to comments over a year later. You guys are the best! I'll try the local dealer. Ride on

[@dynademos]

@@alexmedina3307 I try to respond to all the comments of course some still slip through the cracks but Thankyou!

[@murcielagosky]

Really good video but the 2009 fat bob that I want to buy does not have a hole on the outer cover. can you tell me around how much $$ was on parts??

[@dynademos]

300-500 it really depends on how cheap u can get the mounts

[@herbsoden3312]

I'm having trouble finding parts to do this to my 2015 Dyna Fat Bob. can you list as many part no and where purchased? Including mid and outer primary covers? Thanks. and Thanks for this video. I am writing down ones you have.

[@dynademos]

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