Forza Horizon 5 Update 39 Tease Was Very Unusual...

[@awesomehawk4536]

Everyone keeps forgetting the 1999 Honda Prelude, which is one hell of a .car

[@christiandevos9280]

It’s in fm

[@mandaamar2002]

I just hope that this update gives us some really cool cars from the 90s.

[@romanflores5505]

Knowing how disappointing the last 2-3 months have been i wouldnt get your hopes up.

[@CaseyCollier]

@@romanflores5505 Disappointing in what way? I'm not trying to be confrontational. I'm just legitimately curious.

[@mandaamar2002]

@@romanflores5505 I’m keeping my expectations low, just to be on the safe side.

[@tungabunga4107]

@@romanflores5505this month was good

[@Plastic_box876]

Eg6.

[@CoolGuy-ux5wx]

The Toyota celsior/Ls400 from the 90s would be the perfect fit for the back to the 90a update, along with a 1995 Ford Probe GT, 1993 Viper, and 1991 Camaro Iroc Z

[@41Fivin]

i wish they gave us the LS400!! 😏😯

[@diablow1411]

I wish they also get the Porsche 911 Turbo 993, or even the Carrera would be cool. The GT2 with the bodywork on it is the only 993 in FH series since I believe 3, and I really don't like the fact its riced like hell, and the bodywork is permanent on it.

[@CoolGuy-ux5wx]

@@41Fivin ikr. That would be so awesome.

[@GamerDaSkater]

Forza should make eventlab 3.0,the render distance of trees and plants popping in & out needs to be fixed to make it feel more immersive,add in custom skyboxes ,let us add more objects ,be able to invite friends to help make maps and a traffic slider for some no hesi in creative

[@romanflores5505]

A terrain editor and object deletion tool would also come in clutch

[@GamerDaSkater]

@@romanflores5505 for real. Idk how forza devs don’t think of this stuff, instead for a monthly update they give us clothes , badges and accolades acting like that’s content when they should be focusing on features like these . Especially if we have to play this game for another 2 years…

[@CaseyCollier]

@@GamerDaSkater I don't think it's a lack of thinking. I think it has more to do with the difficulty of developing and implementing such things. A terrain editor, for example, is probably never going to happen because it'd require them to essentially recode the entirety of the map to allow for editing. As for improving render distances, perhaps they could recode some things in the engine and get it more optimized for those modes, but I kind of doubt they'd be able to do it before the end of Horizon 5's lifecycle. Adding custom skyboxes is a rather large ask, considering the lighting and reflections in the visual engine rely quite a bit on the skybox. Increasing the overall prop budget certainly seems possible, but it could take some time to implement (more engine optimization). A traffic slider is probably not going to happen in Horizon 5's lifecycle, as it'd require them to code pathways for traffic on custom objects, which would be much more difficult than it may seem.

[@Kevinstance]

@@CaseyCollierwell the render distance could easily be fixed . It’s weird that the trees and plants are the only ones that have trouble loading in

[@GamerDaSkater]

@@CaseyCollier well tbh if they didn’t focus on monthly updates with badges , accolades and clothes . They could definitely have the time and I can’t see this game lasting for another 2 years max . I absolutely hate the mexico location, if creative didn’t have these issues I would be playing creative maps all day and also Assetto corsa modders 1 of them can make a custom skyboxes and somehow make it look 10x better than Forza with 200+ devs . I’m just gonna stay hopeful they do add these features , nothing wrong with wishing 😁 but you did make some good points though :)

[@popsandbangs8858]

I’m smelling some 90’s Peugeot’s and Renault’s will be next

[@santinosalamanca4378]

we NEED the peugeot 206 rc back into the game

[@phillipsterling8447]

@@santinosalamanca4378 ALSO THIS, IF THIS HAPPENS MANNNNNNNN i mean i own a 206 irl so...

[@popsandbangs8858]

@@santinosalamanca4378 or the 106 s16

[@bencezavarko7312]

That would be sick

[@popsandbangs8858]

I guess neither of them have been added 😆 not even the extremely requested honda's

[@romanianbear8873]

From the 90'...Audi 90 S2 coupé,Audi S8,Fiat Coupe Turbo 20V,Audi S3,Seat Leon Cupra...

[@isaacsrandomvideos667]

Audi coupe would be awesome. A late RR LWB Quattro (stopped production in 91-92) would be awesome too

[@ksb8760]

I would like to see the 1999 Honda Civic SI,1994 Honda Integra Type R, and the 1997 Mazda RX-7 Veliside

[@anttisalmi242]

I predict we get 90s Opel Vectra/Vauxhall Cavalier, Ford Mondeo, Nissan Primera, Honda Accord, Toyota Carina and Renault Laguna.

[@petros-v4w]

Great list. Also Nissan Almera, Citroen Saxo, Citroen Xoara, Peugeot 206, 306, Opel Astra, Seat Ibiza/Cordoba etc.

[@darrendent8288]

I would mark out if we got a Honda Accord

[@jakubchmielecki4041]

Alfa Romeo 156 should be there too.

[@anttisalmi242]

@@jakubchmielecki4041 I left Alfa out on purpose because it was a car that people were actually excited about. 😄 Back in the 90s, I never heard anyone being excited about driving or buying a Vectra, Mondeo, Primera or Carina. 😄

[@jakubchmielecki4041]

@@anttisalmi242 I see what you did right here :P

[@01iverQueen]

The leaked Honda Prelude gen 5 would fit nicely in this upcoming update

[@T3XXY]

I’m still hoping about one of my predictions for the update. We get the 91 chaser in this update, then the 90s update we get the 99 chaser.

[@DJHX1143]

are you thinking what I’m thinking? 🤔

[@landonbussieres1125]

I think the tape might be a teaser to 90s music being added to the game. Its unlikely but would be cool. Edit: Please, for the love of everything holy, stop with the "erm that's a vhs tape, not a cassette tape, you clearly didn't grow up in the 90s" comments. Driving me bonkers. I know the difference. Alternative theory: We are getting 90s cars that may have been featured in films or short videos. Sense yall keep bringing it up.

[@Imjustacarguy]

I’d be surprised is we get another radio station ever since we got the Horizon Wave in the Horizon Retrowave update.

[@01iverQueen]

Eurobeat 😫

[@kasper_429]

How? Lol VHS tapes are for movies/videos, not music. Cassette tapes are for music.

[@NO-2019]

Well the 90s logo on the tape definitely looks like something that could be used for a radio station

[@FiatUno2003]

It would be awesome if we got a 90's radio station or at least a 90's inspired one with some good music

[@Michael-S.]

I really want to see the McLaren F1 LM and Porsche 911 993 Strassenversion in the next update!

[@adamgames1975]

Omg thats ridiculous and amazing choice

[@iqbalnorazman00]

Lambo Diablo GT also

[@Michael-S.]

@@iqbalnorazman00 Or the Ferrari 355 GTS

[@jonathanflugge3557]

Maybe the event lab prop also means there might be '90's movie cars? 🤔

[@Bikerchick07439]

I would like to see the 1990 Camaro iroc z28

[@isaacsrandomvideos667]

I really want them to add the LWB Quattro and it technically fits cause they ended production in 91-92 with the RR. Far better looking car than the sport in my opinion and pretty overlooked nowadays, especially in games.

[@jerrylegates3023]

Be cool to see some 90s obs chevys

[@mateuszpaszkiewicz3831]

I think Back to the 90s would be a curious take on car culture of 1990-1999.

[@Thatguy-zn6xs]

We need a 1997 dodge ram 2500 Cummins in the game

[@thecoconut104smash5]

And a ramcharger

[@matsku5853]

I wish we got more volvos. There are so many good possible models to use...

[@Havok1199]

My guess for the cars in this update would be 1990 Ferrari 348 GTB, 1992 Dodge Viper RT/10, 1993 Mercedes-Benz 600SL and 1993 Porsche 928 GTS.

[@manzoorhussain2520]

Let's just hope for this to happen one day.

[@Havok1199]

@@manzoorhussain2520 The Viper would be the most likely to pop up since I saw a lot of people are requesting it.

[@HoldenCommodoreAU]

I'm just hoping some time in the future that add some better Australian cars

[@blakedmc1989RaveHD]

i woulda loved a 90's themed area

[@isaacsrandomvideos667]

I hope that the next update is “back to the 70s” and then 60s then 50s. 70s would be awesome cause there’s a BUNCH of iconic 70s series with iconic cars.

[@blayneL2024]

I really REALLY hope we get the 1993-1995 Ford F-150 SVT Lightning! It’s literally perfect. We all know forza loves glazing fords, it’s a lightning so it would fill the last lightning we’re missing, and it’s the 90s! Every update since the games release I’ve hoped this truck would finally come, as it would fit with most of the themes. But this, this update could really bring its debut into the game! It’s legit basically my dream car, and after we got the 86 F-150 that gave me hope. But aside from the lightning, we do need more trucks in the game anyway! Also if we got a car pack, that would bring extra hope lol

[@Iceman_Kimi7]

I'm thinking of having a Lamborghini Diablo VT or the first Dodge Viper in Series 30

[@JanekFS]

Ngl, i'd love to have the forst viper, especially in cabrio

[@Havok1199]

@@JanekFSThe 1992-1995 generation was available only as roadster though.

[@35thebear]

I would love to have that Land Rover Defender It looks so good

[@tenpoundburrito]

If it were up to me, the five new cars released would be: 1992 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z 1995 Eunos Cosmo 20B 1995 Lincoln Mark VIII LSC 1999 FIAT Coupe Turbo Plus 1995 Jaguar XJS V-12

[@sopcannon]

jag yes

[@shadowchrome_]

@@sopcannonbroo love ur babymetal pfp haha

[@SidneyS2avant]

I think there might be a Ford sierra sapphire

[@JOSE1993kokobngo]

Although it is unlikely I would love to see the Lister Storm V12 in FH5

[@PovertyHollowDCR]

Before FH5 dropped, a promotional video showing the vehicle audio recording process had an interesting vehicle yet utilized in any Forza title: a mid-90's Chevrolet 2500 pickup. Now, I don't expect necessarily that exact model, but the mid-90s heavy duty trucks utilized a certain 7.4L V8, which is otherwise 454 cubic inches.. I'm not saying for certain we'll get it, but now would certainly be the time for such an iconic vehicle like the '93 454SS sport truck to drop. Also, it would support that segment by being a stablemate to the SVT Lightning.. Vintage Honda? Almost HAVE to at this point. Enthusiasts have been *SCREAMING* for all 3 of the FM4 cars mentioned to return. I just fear that we waited all this time for yet another bullshit 360-era direct port instead of a proper refresh. The mod-90's Mustang Cobra R has been mothballed since FH3, could be a possibility, but I feel it's too fresh on the heels of the '03 SVT Cobra. The Venturi has been leaked a few different ways, including an Instagram post stating by the owner that their Atlantique was being scanned for an eventual feature. That would be great, since we haven't seen one of those on the polygon world since Gran Turismo 2. Ball is in their hands, but they've been known to drop on a simple layup. See what happens I guess.

[@olavofernandes7286]

Who is polygon world ?

[@chrishines6048]

I hope playground games surprise us and give us iconic 90s cars that we haven't seen in forza for a long time or at all

[@la-quinticegilmer4853]

The lets go... IS HAPPING ON MY BDAY

[@DJHX1143]

early happy birthday from me lol 🎉

[@benanonymous4689]

Happy birthday mate

[@yoshi555king]

I literally mentioned Venturi Atlantique in your last video

[@petros-v4w]

Nissan Almera (Sedan) , Citroen Saxo, Citroen Xoara/Xantia, Peugeot 206, 306, Opel Astra/Corsa, Seat Ibiza/Cordoba etc. NO MORE OF THE SAME BRANDS

[@Chanb302]

Would really love the 206. While we didn't get any of those cars in the States, the 206 Gti has a special place in my heart from playing Sega GT 2002, Forza Motorsport, and NFSU.

[@shadowchrome_]

sierra sapphire cozzy would be cool too

[@VNTRFilms]

Yeah, no. Everytime a french car gets introduced, no one plays with them after the first week.

[@petros-v4w]

@@VNTRFilms what are you a statistic machine? For God's sake

[@VNTRFilms]

@@petros-v4w Rather be that than blind. How do you think PG decides which cars to add?

[@j_mza]

They need to add more wheels like the spoon sw388, and many from 90’s era, also a much much needed upgrade the damn wheels spins. And also like last time add some rare vehicles to the shop, for some players that started late. Add at least 3 more barfinds.

[@olavofernandes7286]

Meanwhile in gran turismo 7

[@MrRorosao]

Gen z look at the 90s tape and be like: whats that brother? Wewww

[@LandonH99]

If the 92 Camaro isn’t in this update I’m finna crash out

[@Charley_Buehner]

Maybe the VHS tape suggests they'll upgrade the video recording capabilities to something from the 90s...

[@DaSpecialZak]

I would like to have the other editions of cars like the ford gt

[@christianatkinson8612]

Now I know it’s probably very hard to do but imagine if we had the ability to customize offsets for wheels. I feel like it will bring a lot more attention to the game and probably more for FH6

[@Janky209]

Thanks for another video Eric! Much love from America!

[@sgt.marcuspstacker2287]

I want the volvo 1800e classic car in fh5 it's so cool looking!

[@spykerlaviolette2495]

96' Trans Am WS6, 02' Camaro SS, 90' Camaro IROC-Z, 98' Callaway C12, 95' Cobra R, 98' FTO GP Version R, 98' Panoz Esperante road car, 99' Lister Storm V12, 99' Civic Si Coupe, 99' Spyker Silvestris V8, 91' Mercedes-Benz C112, 92' Ferrari 348tb Serie Speciale, 94' De Tomaso Guara, 94' Venturi 400GT, 92' Spiess TC522

[@lagartopunkarra]

Well, there's a lot of cool cars that comes from the 90s, and in all shapes and tastes. JDMs, supercars, hatchbacks, offroaders... there's a lot that could potentially come in this next update

[@G4bri3lBatista]

I hope we get the Venturi Atlantique, I love this car

[@mikegresko14H]

happy to see i’ve lived long enough to watch Forza fully engulf Gran Turismo.

[@GintaniAventadorSVJ]

I really want the vector w8 to come to forza

[@NihilusShadow]

This isn't going to happen, but I was just thinking a radio station with 90s music would be neat. I'll just have to make a 90s specific playlist on Spotify. A news message in game stakes "Travel with us to the era of grunge, CD players, and rounder supercars. So which 90s supercars are "rounder"? I personally need that Dodge Stealth.

[@rmcer2]

Could we finally be getting a JZX100 🥵

[@chrxstiann]

yo eric ship thank you so much for that gift i love ur videos man❤

[@Tekzilla748]

The one car I wanna see come back is the Iroc-Z, my biological father had one with a aftermarket radio that lit up red and I fell in love with that car, I actually cried and cussed my dad out when he sold it, take it I was only like 8 or 9 at the time so I got in major trouble for calling my dad some not so family friendly names, I can remember how wide his eyes opened when I called him a son of a you know what at only 8 or 9 years old for selling a car I really liked

[@ChocoThunDuh]

More car packs plz!!!!!

[@redbaron5308]

Give us more Camaros and mustangs with N/A engines

[@recorecat]

hoping some japanese sedans get some love, like the Nissan Gloria, Toyota Crown, or any new honda. Honda hasn't gotten any love with new to forza cars. And i kind of hope its not the prelude since it's been in every single forza game before this. I'm hoping for the Integra, the Orthia, the Ascot, the Accord, just something different.

[@olavofernandes7286]

Meanwhile in gran turismo 😂

[@larryman1536]

Hope they don’t dissapoint

[@breezyleogaming]

I got a feeling they are adding the jzx 100 in a car pack this time.

[@01iverQueen]

Maybe this teaser image means that we will get a new radio station, add 90s theme to the mix and it would mean that we are getting an Eurobeat station. Which would blow my mind

[@JanekFS]

Tbh, i really like the idea of Venturi, but i prefer 400 gt from these two, it looks more agressive

[@marianmorales21]

WISHLIST OF 90S CARS FOR THE GAME: -Toyota Chaser JZX100 -Suzuki Capuccino -Subaru WRX/STI GC8 -Civic EF/EG/EM/EJ -Toyota Hilux Single Cabin (Minitruck) to stance it and drift it

[@theanglerfish]

Venturi definitely this 😍

[@xanderjohnson8719]

All I know is I have to wait for another month for the chance for the MazdaSpeed3 to release

[@БорисБиров]

I will like to see the Porsche Boxster 986

[@SH-fr2xm]

454 SS Truck is a necessity. WS6, Iroc would be great too

[@rocksreynolds3642]

I am hoping the new cars are all cars being reintroduced from earlier Horizons or Motorsport, and that’s why a car isn’t in the teaser. I wonder if there will be a car pack including the new cars, such as the Lagonda and Venturi.

[@fataldragon69]

I'd love to see a U.K 'Mk.2 Fiesta XR2' as that was my First Car (mine was a cool Jet-Black) and I had 3 more of them after that one throughout my years of driving, I'd love to have one again but they're mega expensive because they're rare now-a-days.....They're classic hot-hatches that haven't appeared in the Forza franchise.....Yet !!

[@ryanyuen7594]

Probably Forza editors will add the 1997 Toyota Century V12, Right guys?

[@olavofernandes7286]

No don't think so

[@ryanyuen7594]

@@olavofernandes7286 It has to be add the Century v12 on Forza horizon 5 for example.

[@mr.sr7171]

The 1990s Renault twingo and the dodge neon .

[@georgebanks4360]

Like a lot of car guys, I watch Bring a Trailer … religiously checking it several times a day. There is a car up for auction now, imported from Japan, that would be an amazing add to the game in this update. A 1996 Civic SiR. Time will tell what cars will be added.

[@richbaker9018]

Renault 5 gt turbo, peugeot 106 gti/rallye, vauxhall nova sri, corsa gsi, astra gte/gsi, lotus carlton

[@SpartanGSD]

It would be nice to see some love from Forza towards Chrysler

[@Sickif]

If they want to throw us a curveball there's an all-wheel drive k-car that Honda made called the Honda Z, not to be confused with the Nissan Z, the Honda Z is a little all-wheel-drive kei car that is lifted from the factory so it's basically a little kei SUV.

[@DoYouFast]

Imagine we got the XC90 R, Iron Knight, S60 R and S60 polestar in the game

[@Supercar_TV]

Ew why would anyone ask for that trash

[@rabbidcrazy787]

I want the Iron Knight

[@rabbidcrazy787]

​@@Supercar_TVIron Knight isn't trash.

[@MlCROPIZZA]

Iron Knight was already in FH4

[@DoYouFast]

@@Supercar_TV Me because they are cool cars and aren't the newest mega super car

[@306hdipug]

No doubt they’ll add cars nobody wants

[@CaseyvlVisage]

I wonder if they will stop at update 50? 🤔

[@CobraGT530]

Disappointed that none of the American cars that’s possible wasn’t mentioned.. The main three cars I only am interested in is the 1995 Mustang SVT Cobra R, 1990s Firebird WS6, and the Camaro IROC-Z. But I guess I should’ve expected that American cars don’t get much credit

[@ericship111]

All those cars were literally mentioned in my previous vid

[@CobraGT530]

@@ericship111 Oh.. I’m so sorry 😅 I didn’t know that video was out lol

[@CobraGT530]

@@ericship111Just watched it, but the one car that was missed out, is a 1990s Firebird

[@CobraGT530]

I’m just really hoping they primarily add a 1994 Firebird, that car has special place in my heart. My Dad owns one, and it’s a favorite of mine

[@khrismakaruk1027]

Chevy cavelier or pontiac sunfire would be sweet

[@animelover-tw2xl]

It'd be neat to see the following 1999 Toyota Celica Cruising Deck Concept Car 1999 Toyota Retro Cruiser Concept Car 1999 Nissan Rasheen And finally 1999 Nissan Cube Not only are these vehicles are from the 90's but they're from the year I was born in but if I'd had to pick only one it'll be the 1999 Nissan Cube cause not only is it a unique looking car but where I live I still see (newer year) Nissan Cubes and also since I can't drive in real life due to being in 2 ptsd car accidents on top of me having Autism it'd be neat to drive one in one of my favorite video games called Forza Horizon Series especially Forza Horizon 5 also October 10th is also my grandpa's 81st birthday

[@moonshredder5181]

Forza just posted on Twitter with the Ford Model T, anyone think we are getting it in the game?

[@MlCROPIZZA]

Back to the nineties does not fit for T-model, not even 1890's

[@mateuszpaszkiewicz3831]

I look forward to see it, but not for this update.

[@alexmilette1924]

the update for november is back to the 1910s

[@FiatUno2003]

For the next update, I would love to see the OG Viper, the Altezza, Chaser JZX100 and a Honda Civic EG. And for the car pack it would be awesome to see 90's race cars like the Mazda 787B, McLaren F1 GTR, Castrol Supra and some DTM cars like Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI, the Mercedes 190E and the Opel Calibra. (I know they will never add such cool cars to the game but a man can dream)

[@olavofernandes7286]

Castrol Tom's supra won't come to forza lol since gran turismo 7 has the championship race car

[@Toxic2T]

we got more Hondas but still no freaking IROC-Z wth

[@cpt_nordbart]

VHS tape.... Hmm movie cars? Those where usually paid dlc I would guess.

[@cheetopuff8462]

I have a CRX and I’m a huge Honda fanboy so I’d be more than happy to see really any 90’s Honda added to the game

[@MoJo-2977]

Made a video 2 weeks ago about that subject^^

[@GODBLESSUNKNOWN]

I dont admit a mobile game has more modern variety of cars and Forza are stuck with replaced cars from their past games, i hope FH6 they listen the community...

[@nicolasblanovich]

so many toyota has been aded in previous updates, i think we didnt get any toyota in 39 update. I need Saab cars in forza and Viper Rt10

[@taikeru5482]

I guess new cars maybe Mitsubishi FTO , Honda Civic EG6 or CRX Del Sol , Honda Prelude 5th gen , Dodge Stealth R/T , Camaro Iroc Z from FH4 and Lexus IS 300 (Toyota Altezza)

[@DylanPerez-m2s]

We need the fiat multipla

[@RESPECTxORANGES]

And Renault twingo lol

[@306hdipug]

I agree more of these type of cars would be fun 👍

[@maurizza3499]

An Integra DC2 would be nice

[@Kushinada.]

ME: currently cannot played forza because of a corrupt save file

[@BaileyChatty2002]

Honda Civic EG and Si in my opinion and Stealth and FTO Del sol and 1990 Honda Civic EF please

[@ConnorTubeYT]

FTO all the way!

[@romanearly7516]

I just wish that playground games would put F.H 3 back on Microsoft Xbox store or on game pass for real

[@Cooperyan95]

i from Asia and i think about Civic SI couope nice car, It's sad that it's only for the USA, why weren't you in Japan :(

[@patrickvonjanicke658]

First thing to do : change that Volvo’s color 😂

[@apexrpg2519]

90s Taurus SHO

[@modzeleski]

Man, if there is something I have always wanted to drive in a recent forza game, is any civic coupe from the 90s, specially 93 to 95

[@refillz5281]

That, the 2000 civic Si, 08 civic si, 2014 civic Si

[@christiandevos9280]

There most definitely will not be any classic civics I know that for sure.

[@bbm959]

I hope we get an Audi tt mk1

[@alanhayes1080]

I'd like them to stop adding stuff to FH5 and make a horizon with a location and map that's actually interesting.

[@markjairusredoble6267]

Subaru SVX and Mitsubishi 3g/4g eclipse

[@WilsonEKibbe2002]

I hope we don’t get recycled cars from Forza Horizon 4. If we do get many cars last seen from FM4 I would be happy because they count as New To Horizon Cars. They would still count as good updates. I absolutely hope we do see the 1999 Honda Civic SI. We need that car to return & plus since it’s a normal car (ordinary car) I would be normal driving when I’m driving that car stock like I do with the Nissan Tsuru, VW Santana, Wuling Sunshine, 1985 Ford F-150, 2020 Ford F-450 SuperDuty, ETC. If this update is on the disappointing side we can say that we might be getting close to Forza Horizon 6. The updates in Forza Horizon 5 has been nearly perfect lately. We had I believe 9 Good Updates in a Row. Before Update 27 we had 8 good Updates in a row & we should forgive Series 27 & Series 29 because we were only in a Minor Bad Era of Updates. If it was before Update 19 we were in a Major Bad Era of Updates & those are the updates that we should not forgive (especially when the FH5 Car Pass was completely over). Now yes, Update 29 & I know that many people are going to disagree with me about this update but Update 29 was the worst Update we ever had ( and yes Update 29 was Worse than the Donut Media Series 14 & the Horizon 10 Year Anniversary Series 13). But, that update at least was in a minor bad era of Updates but by Update 30 we had finally went back to good again & look at the Forza Horizon 5 updates now. They have been perfect. Okay it wasn’t 100% perfect but it was excellent.